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The Varessan Commonwealth would like to recieve tenders for a rifle and a light support weapon suitable for useage in an infantry section. Currently seeking 50,000 units, plus license for domestic production of ammunition and replacement parts.

If you are interested, please submit your offer of a rifle and/or a light support weapon, complete with specifications, pictures (if you have any) and, of course, going price.

Thank you for your time.

Brigadier Blackwell
XO Varessan Military Industries

OOC: By Light Support Vehicle are you looking for a light tank or a lightly armoured halftrackt or ...

IC:

H&K A1 Standard Assault Rifle -

30 round mags.
Standard calibre (M16)
3 round semi-auto to perfect accuracy
6 to 7 lbs.

>> Ea. comes with 300 mags. and it the gun costs 500 USD ea.

Pz. III "Lion" LAV "Special" (this is modern not WWII)

88mm L/70
500mm Frontal Ar. Sloped
400mm rear
450mm Side
MAN/Honeywell Engine ; 60 m.p.h
5 man crew
4 MG 90's
4 hatches
Intercom set for tank to tank communications (no matter what kind)
$3 billion USD

Porsche Armoured Jeep

Standard Jeep w/ two MG 90's and a RPG - 18.
2 million USD

OOC: Light Support Weapon, not vehicle *chuckle*...but no worries.

PPS Twinshot-

Two magazines of 7.92mm Qute ammunition(chellian version of mauser bullets)

Semi-automatic rate of fire

64 rounds total(2 fired at a time, 1 from each barrel).

The PPS Twinshot is the mainstay of chellian infantrymen, and the ability to have the range of a rifle, with a large ammunition load, works well with chellian tactics.

800 dollars a piece.

PPS Stuka

Medium Machine Gun

900 ROF

75 , 150, and 250 round mags available ,all use Qute ammunition as does the above gun.

This medium machine gun can effectivly give a squad support fire, can effectivly be carried by one man(although the squad should carry the extra ammo in that case), and can even be employed on many vehicles, with 250 round boxes.

2,400 dollars a piece

The Kingdom of Crookfur offers it's S1A3 rifle for the basic infantry arm:

CFAR S1A3 Combat rifle

http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/images/CFARS1A3.jpg

Round: 6.25x43mm
Weight: 3.4kg (empty magazine)
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Length: 790mm
Barrel length: 570mm
Rate of fire: 500 rounds per minute
Max effective range: 600m (with sight).

The S1A3 is a Bull pup arranged rifle designed around the forgotten British 6.25x43mm rifle cartridge. During a series of trials it was identified as being close to the optimum for an infantry round. The 6.25mm round offers performance equal to the larger 7.62 NATO round out to about 600m but with recoil and ammo weight very close to 5.56mm rounds.

The S1A3 uses a much improved version of the SA80 mechanism offering rock solid reliability and performance (a must in the harsh conditions found all over Crookfur), the bull pup design allows for a greatly reduced length making the S1A3 perfect for airborne or mechanised infantry. Included in the basic package is a 4x scope based on the British SUSAT, this is mounted on integral weaver rails allowing alternative sights to be used if desired.

Cost: $850


For the light support weapon we can offer 2 choices the S2A3 LSw (longer, heavy barreled version of the S1A3) or the S5A3 light machine gun (think a slightly heavier and more powerful FN-Minimi). We actively encourage the use of a combination of both systems in fire teams to give both accuracy and volume of fire (much like how the british army now uses a mix of the SA80 LSW and FN Minimi para).

CFAR S2A3 Light support weapon

http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/images/S2A3LSW.jpg

Round: 6.25x43mm
Weight: 6.2kg (empty magazine)
Magazine capacity: 30 (can also use 50 round drums)
Length: 1020mm
Rate of fire: 700 rounds per minute
Max effective range: 700m (with sight).

The light support weapon variant of the S1A3 rifle, the S2A3 uses the same round and a large number of identical parts, the main difference being the fitting of a longer and heavier quickly replaceable barrel and a bipod. The LSW can use either standard S1A3 magazines or a specialist 50 round drum, a belt feed mechanism can be fitted but this adds another 1.5kg to the weight of the weapon.

Cost: $1000

CFAR S5A3 Machine gun/SAW

http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/images/S5A3SAW.jpg

Round: 6.25x43mm
Weight: 8.2kg (empty magazine)
Magazine capacity: Belt Feed (200 round boxes)
Length: 1130mm
Rate of fire: 750-1000 rounds per minute
Max effective range: 300m (point), 1000(area).

Seeing that the S2A3 LSW didn’t offer acceptable levels of suppressive fire ability (due to the fact it is too accurate) CFAR engineers produced the S5A3 SAW which uses both new and old ideas (basically combining the heavier mechanism of the FN MAG with FN MINIMI tech and the 6.25mm round) to produce a truly formidable fire support weapon. The S5A3 features quick change barrels and an ambidextrous feed mechanism (can be quickly converted to either right or left hand feed for those who fire off either shoulder) it cannot how ever accept magazines from other Crookfur weapons. A standard mounting rail system is supplied to allow a variety of sights and accessories to be used to supplement the basic iron sights (allowing aimed fire out to greater ranges).

Cost: $1300


We can offer a domestic production license (inc ammo and tooling) for $100million and to get you started we'll offer a 20% discount on purchased units.

Padmasa would like to sudmit, well, actually just look over the weapons listed on the site. the domestic production lisence will cost $80 - $120 million depending on the chosen weapon.

Here's the link:

http://www.freewebs.com/thundercorp/thundercorpstorefront.htm

FC-57A2

Designed by Freedom Countried R&D, its FC's national Rifle, and has been given to all our Infanatry Divisions!!!!!

Its 6.62 is designed to use FC bullets which are somewhere in between the versatile 5.56 and the powerful 7.62.

Its design is a mix of the tried and tested M4 and OICW, and has replaced the OICW, AKS-74U, G36 and M16 in our armed forces. A LMG version is being developed soon!!!

It has a carbine designed, M16 inspired barrel, with what looks like a smooth gripped M203 underneath. Both barrels merge into an OICW's main body with trigger, but both the grenade launchers 5 round magazine and the assault rifles magazines are at the back. This allows added weight to be added at the front to reduce barrel rising and increase accuracy. It has a stock which is where the magazines are inserted, in front of the shoulder. The grenade launcher can be unattached to leave the Assault rifle, for QB and Airborne use. Also, there is a multipurpose slot where a custom made bayonet, custom made, laser 'pin prick' targeting, custom made torch and custom made MILES system fit into the holder.

The grenade launcher fires either HE or HEAT shells, with the HEAT being a mini version of the tank inspired shell. The assault rifle uses the FC 6.62 rounds which can be brass cased or explosive matrix enclosed. This is the first step my R&D has amde other than a rotary launcher for torpedos, which isnt that special.

Assault Rifle:

Name: FC-57
Designed by: Freedom Country R&D
Made by: Freedom Country
Ammo Prosuced by: FC and The Pheonix Milita
Ammo Type: 6.62mm Caseless FC ammunition
Weight: 4 kg
Operation: Carbine
Used by: FC's Main Infantary Battalions
Holders of Prod Rights: Freedom Country
Range: 1000 metres
Scope Magnification: times 4
ROF: 250 rounds per minute

Grenade Launcher:

Name: It is an attachment to the FC-57 AR
Designed by: Freedom Country R&D
Made by: Freedom Country
Ammo produced by: Freedom Country
Ammo type: 20mm HEAT (mini tank shell)
Weight: 4.5 kg
Operation: D/K
Used by: FC's infantary battalions
Holders of prod rights: As an attachment: Freedom Country
As an international grenade launcher: Everyone

Range: 500 metres
Magnification: When used with FC-57, times 4
ROF: 60 rounds a minute

COST: 3,000 USD

FC-21:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/387586/fc-21.JPG

Primary function: Hand-held combat machine gun
Length: 40.87 inches (103.81 centimeters)
Weight:
With bipod and tools: 15.16 pounds (6.88 kilograms)
200-round box magazine: 6.92 pounds (3.14 kilograms)
30-round magazine: 1.07 pounds (.49 kilograms)
Bore diameter: 5.56mm (.233 inches)
Maximum effective range: 3281 feet (1000 meters) for an area target
Maximum range: 2.23 miles (3.6 kilometers)
Rates of fire:
Cyclic: 725 rounds per minute
Sustained: 85 rounds per minute

COST: 3,300 USD

Thank you all for your offers. They are all being examined by the VMI board, and we will contact the nation which has made the most satisfactory proposal.

Keep those proposals coming in.

Some background on the Varessan military, so that you may better pitch your sales at the target market:

VDF

Army (approx. 70,000, 1st Amr, 2nd, 3rd Mech, 4th Avn, 13th Para Bde, 14th Arty Bde, 15th LInf Bde)

Navy (approx. 10,000, 3 Cruisers, 6 destroyers, 18 Patrol boats, shore support)

VAF (approx. 20,000 platforms not yet acquired)

The army will, of course, be the primary recipient of this new weapon, and the rifle will be issued to all arms of the army as standard, regardless of corps. The LSW will be an infantry, mechanised infantry, recon and airbourne weapon.
Weight and size are a consideration for both. Ammunition compatibility will be another, and weapons capable of taking standard NATO or WARPAC ammunition types are preferred, although not essential. Reliability, always a consideration.

Any questions, feel free to post or telegram

BRIG. Blackwell
XO VMI

BAh ignore NATO weaponary both rounds chosen as standard rifle rounds by NATO were bad comprosmises brought on by american pig headedness, the 7.62x51mm was far too powerful but the american's wouldn't accept anything smaller ie namely the .280british a fantastic round that everyone else wanted and had designed fantastic weapons for. The whole 5.56mm story is even worse...

Anyway our 6.25x43mm round is the optimuim infatry round it offers accuracy punch for rifles and a decent range for machineguns

This is what the Agnostican infantry uses and what the Agnsotican weapons manufacturers export. We have been extremely impressed with the accuracy and stopping power of the 7.62 caseless ammunition and our troops love that they never have to police brass when at firing ranges.

AMR-5 ACR infantry assault weapon
http://remtek.com/arms/hk/mil/g11/soldier.jpg
The AMR-5 is loosely based off of the Heckler & Koch G11 K2 rifle that was successfully tested throughout the 1980s and 1990s. By utilizing caseless ammunition (round is surrounded by explosive matrix) we have relieved soldiers of the thankless task of collecting brass after firing and we have also minimized metal wastage. In addition, the absence of casings prevent enemy foragers from policing our brass for later use against us.


The current rifle fires a larger 7.62mm (versus a 4.7mm round G11) round and has an effective combat range of 300-600m. The integrated sight has both a low-light amplifier and thermal sight settings as well as up to 10x zoom.

The cartridge is fed by means of positive control from the magazine into the chamber within the cylinder. At this point the cartridge is perpendicular to the firing direction. The cylinder then turns clockwise 90°; the cartridge is now in line with the barrel and can be mechanically ignited and fired. The cylinder and chamber are again turned 90° by gas pressure and brought back into the feeding position. When firing bursts and during sustained fire this action is repeated continuously. The main advantages of this system are:

Simple design with few components
Very short overall length of the weapon with a long barrel
Elimination of the rearward travel of the bolt
Shortest possible and absolutely straight cartridge feeding
High rates of fire due to extremely short bolt movements.

The entire mechanical part of the weapon, excluding the trigger, safety and fire selector mechanism is mounted in a floating manner within the sealed receiver. After mechanical ignition of the first cartridge and after the bullet has left the muzzle, the entire mounted part of the weapon moves to the rear and compresses the mount spring.

http://remtek.com/arms/hk/mil/g11/op.gif

When firing a 3-round burst, the hammer ignites the second and third cartridge as soon as they are in firing position upon completion of the cylinder rotation. During all three rotation or firing cycles, the mounted part of the weapon moves to the rear at an increased velocity, though it transfers only minimal recoil to the shooter's shoulder. The weapon remains steady in the aimed position; no conventional weapon can achieve these same firing results.

During sustained fire, the hammer remains cocked after the first rotation or firing cycle until the rearward motion of the mounted part of the weapon is completed and the mount spring has driven the mounted part into its forward initial position. Thus, the rate of fire is not determined by the rotation cycle of the bolt, but by the cycle of the mounted part of the weapon. Again, there is no notable recoiI on the shooter's shoulder. As mentioned above, the weapon can be easily controlled in the aiming position to track moving targets, i.e. aimed sustained fire is possible.


Caliber: 7.62 mm
Type of cartridge: caseless
Length of weapon: .82m
Width of weapon: .06m
Height of weapon: .29m
Weight of weapon empty/loaded: 3.6 kg/4.4 kg
Barrel length without chamber: .55m
Muzzle twist: 155 mm/twist
Bore profile: polygon
Modes of fire: single shot, 3-round burst, sustained fire
Theoretical rates of fire:
3-round burst
sustained fire > 2000 rpm
approx. 600 rpm
Magazine capacity: 50 cartridges
Combat range: 300-600m
Kevlar helmet penetration: up to 600m
Operating principle: Gas operated cartridge in the chamber
Bolt principle: Cylinder bolt

Unit Cost: 2,000 dollars or equivalent

Crookfur and Agnosticum, both of your proposals have piqued interest in Varessan military circles... could you both please submit more information, if possible.

By that, I mean *everything*, by telegram if the information is sensitive...

Brigadier Blackwell

Can i have 10 CFAR S5A3 Machine gun/SAW

can i have 1000 AMR-5 ACR infantry assault weapon

What information, exactly? weapon composition? other nation's commentary? Please be a little more specific so that I can provide you with everything you need.