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Trailers declares war on Automagfreek.

Trailers
16-09-2003, 02:21
Automagfreek's fighters reportedly opened fire on Trailers Corona Shipyards without reason.Fortunately there were minimal casualties.As the case may be.Trailers considers this hostile action reason for war.A nation cannot ignore hotilities.Hence.Trailers calls its allies to assist them in eliminating this national threat.
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 02:23
I'm glad to know that you made every attempt to solve this without using diplomatic actions. If we wanted to destroy you, we would have, and quite easily at that. No response as to the nature of this strike was given, so how can you make such judgments? How do you not know this was an STO gone wrong?

We condemn the trigger happy Trailer's government. But, being in the decent mood that I'm in, I will give you an opportunity to retract your declaration, or else we will send you to whatever God you wish.

Your choice.

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Roania
16-09-2003, 02:24
We stand aside AutoMagfreek, and stand ready to use chemical weapons on Trailer's population should they not back down.
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 02:24
Trailers calls its allies to assist them in eliminating this national threat.

So, you want to bring allies into this, eh coward? By doing so, you will surely seal your fate. I suggest you keep this on the bargaining table, and not the battlefield. You are in over your head.


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Rodriquezland
16-09-2003, 02:26
Automagfreek you have my military might on your side.

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Klonor
16-09-2003, 02:26
We stand aside AutoMagfreek, and stand ready to use chemical weapons on Trailer's population should they not back down.

You're a GA member. You have to help Trailers.
Klonor
16-09-2003, 02:27
Automagfreek you have my military might on your side.

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Ditto (to my previous post)
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 02:27
You're a GA member. You have to help Trailers.

If you want to bring alliances into this, then the Blood Pact with Pantera, and the Chromestar Alliance would be happy to kick some ass.


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Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 02:28
Automagfreek you have my military might on your side.


Thank you, we will contact you should assistance be required.


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Klonor
16-09-2003, 02:28
I don't want to bring any Alliance into this. I don't want a war. I support you in trying to find a diplomatic solution (if you really are). But, if it does come to war, GA members are not allowed to fight against Trailers.
16-09-2003, 02:29
Automagfreek's fighters reportedly opened fire on Trailers Corona Shipyards without reason.Fortunately there were minimal casualties.As the case may be.Trailers considers this hostile action reason for war.A nation cannot ignore hotilities.Hence.Trailers calls its allies to assist them in eliminating this national threat.

DONT! As our ally, I suggest you not make a war with him! I dont want you to be what I am now! STOP THIS WAR THIS INSTANT!
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 02:29
But, if it does come to war, GA members are not allowed to fight against Trailers.

Then I suggest they abstain altogether if it does come down to war.


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Roania
16-09-2003, 02:29
You're a GA member. You have to help Trailers.

If you want to bring alliances into this, then the Blood Pact with Pantera, and the Chromestar Alliance would be happy to kick some ass.


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Hmm... trouble there. My mentats have found a way around that, though.

ADK, how would you like to borrow some chemweapons?
Trailers
16-09-2003, 02:30
Im sure you want to tangle with the UOHN..and The Alliance..

Either way,we dont react kindly to you opening fire on our vessels.Unprovoked no less.
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 02:32
Im sure you want to tangle with the UOHN..and The Alliance..

Those "alliances" do not scare me, and either do you.



Either way,we dont react kindly to you opening fire on our vessels.Unprovoked no less.

You see, you never gave us a chance to explain, you just immediatly drew your sword and declared war.


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Klonor
16-09-2003, 02:32
GA Constitution

Article 7:
If a member is in trouble, not caused by his/her doing, all other members are required to pledge any support they can.

Article 9:
No one in the Alliance may cause harm to another member, unless there is just cause, upon which they will be expelled from the Alliance.

If there is a war, and it wasn't started by Trailers, then the GA has to get involved. Please find a diplomatic solution, I don't want a war. (Especially a civil war which this seems to be growing into).
Rodriquezland
16-09-2003, 02:32
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Ditto (to my previous post)

I refuse to help Trailers.

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16-09-2003, 02:33
Im sure you want to tangle with the UOHN..and The Alliance..

Either way,we dont react kindly to you opening fire on our vessels.Unprovoked no less.

[b]I'm warning you on this, you dont stand a chance. I have made serveral atempts to kill him, it's a failiure. I suggest you not.
16-09-2003, 02:33
Im sure you want to tangle with the UOHN..and The Alliance..

Either way,we dont react kindly to you opening fire on our vessels.Unprovoked no less.

I'm warning you on this, you dont stand a chance. I have made serveral atempts to kill him, it's a failiure. I suggest you not.
Mef
16-09-2003, 02:34
The Democratic States of Mef really has no interests in danger from this conflict, and we know that in the event of us being in the conflict our nation would be demolished if we were on either side. We hope the conflict will end soon. Human lives are worth more than what could possibly be a simple mistake.

President Mef

ooc: Wow, your foreign minister looks a lot like our most prosteigious Drill Instructor for our Marine Corps and famous national hero. :roll:
16-09-2003, 02:34
Im sure you want to tangle with the UOHN..and The Alliance..

Either way,we dont react kindly to you opening fire on our vessels.Unprovoked no less.

[b]I'm warning you on this, you dont stand a chance. I have made serveral atempts to kill him, it's a failiure. I suggest you not.

Noone wants to kill anyone, right?
Klonor
16-09-2003, 02:34
GA Constitution

Article 7:
If a member is in trouble, not caused by his/her doing, all other members are required to pledge any support they can.

Article 9:
No one in the Alliance may cause harm to another member, unless there is just cause, upon which they will be expelled from the Alliance.
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 02:34
The mods have been notified, MC.

You can't seem to stay outta my way.

Welcome to another deletion.
Roania
16-09-2003, 02:35
GA Constitution

Article 7:
If a member is in trouble, not caused by his/her doing, all other members are required to pledge any support they can.

Article 9:
No one in the Alliance may cause harm to another member, unless there is just cause, upon which they will be expelled from the Alliance.

If there is a war, and it wasn't started by Trailers, then the GA has to get involved. Please find a diplomatic solution, I don't want a war. (Especially a civil war which this seems to be growing into).

I'm not involved. I'm lending my chemweapons to the side of justice! And money. But mainly justice!

Sadly, all of my fleets have scattered. Can't help. Sorry. 8)
Isla de Penguinata
16-09-2003, 02:35
This declaration of war has been received with utmost anger and bitterness within Isla de Penguinata. We kindly ask that you retract your declaration for the safety of you and others.

If you do not retract, we will be forced to take immediate action. The first being economic boycotts, and progressing to an eventual blockade of your waters.

We ask that this be peacefully resolved, with all parties putting forth a reason for their actions.

~Jon Morris
Secretary of Foreign Affairs.
Klonor
16-09-2003, 02:35
Let's find a diplomatic solution.

Was the attack on Trailers sanctioned by the government?
16-09-2003, 02:35
I silence all of you. Let AMF explain first. BTW get your ass on AIM so we can talk this out ok? Both of you.
Isla de Penguinata
16-09-2003, 02:37
AMF and Trailers, what are your AIM s/n's? I'd like to talk to both of you also. :)
Klonor
16-09-2003, 02:39
As the GA representative, I'd like to get in on this AIM conversation (I want to avoid a war)

What are your screen names? Mine is JBK405
16-09-2003, 02:39
Auto, please unblock me, and Trailers, AIM me @ MaGiC sCt
16-09-2003, 02:40
automag if there is a war then you have an ally with me




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16-09-2003, 02:40
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Isla de Penguinata
16-09-2003, 02:42
In order to help sort this thing out, and be able to contact you if I need to, my two AOL s/n's are FudgeCracker15 (please don't crack on this, I know what it's VERY close to, but I can't change it b/c it's too important now..long story) and PenguinDawg15.

IM me right away. :)
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 02:45
As you can see Trailers, your actions were completely unjust. Yes, something happened out there in space, but why did you not try and use the pen, instead of the sword? And what would make you think that you could even contend with the Sentinels of AMF? And you talk of alliances? Your allies are not stupid, so they would abandon you, for there is no way they would risk their own destruction for you.

You should really rethink your priorities.


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16-09-2003, 02:49
As you can see Trailers, your actions were completely unjust. Yes, something happened out there in space, but why did you not try and use the pen, instead of the sword? And what would make you think that you could even contend with the Sentinels of AMF? And you talk of alliances? Your allies are not stupid, so they would abandon you, for there is no way they would risk their own destruction for you.

You should really rethink your priorities.


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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

SHUT UP!

True true... what your saying is true... but Shut up!

[stop exposing th secret!!!]
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 02:51
I am being....civilized to these infidels. They challenged my hand, and now they shall recieve it!

Damien's voice was thundering. Xel sat next to him, and she gently replied.

Maybe a bit of me is rubbing off on you.

Xel chuckled, but Damien was in no mood.

You don't know how lucky you are, Trailers.......you have no clue..

Damien thought to himself, his rage boiling over, his heart pumping fire and brimstone, and his veins flowing with ice water.
The Eastern Bloc
16-09-2003, 03:04
"It seems sir that the country of Trailers has declared war on Auto." As the servant spoke Emperor Traiden looked over the document, "It seems that a certain Alliance is getting involved... under the assumtion that Trailers did not start this conflict... but if he is the one that declares war without considering all the facts first... I believe it would render that document null and void." The servant nodded, "Yes sir. What are your orders?" Traiden bit his lip, "Well... prepare the Royal Navy... just in case."
16-09-2003, 03:09
The Pistol Gang (96 members) has been deployed.

This gang carrys the State of the Art Pistols!
Isla de Penguinata
16-09-2003, 03:13
Secretary of Defense Josef Van Guren walked in the Presidential Office wearing his green Class A uniform. He looked frustrated. "Madame President.."
"Yes, Mr. Secretary?" She was wearing a blue dress with a diamond necklace.
"Trailers has declared war on Automagfreek, and the situation looked like it would be prevented at first. But now alliances are wanting to get involved. The Office of Foreign Affairs sent out a release statement earlier, which I'm sure you received. If you didn't here it is...But anyway, the point is that if alliances get involved, we may be in grave danger. I doubt any alliance Trailers belongs to is a threat to the Chromestar Alliance, but you see my point, do you not?"
"Hmmm, yes. I understand. But Automagfreek is our ally, and I will not stand down until others do. We will support AMF until I am dead as a rock, until then, no alliance shall waver our determination and loyalty."
"Yes, Madame President. Thank you."
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Isla de Penguinata remains committed to making sure that our ally Automagfreek does not suffer an attack without further agression from us. We ask again that Trailers retracts its declaration of war.

~Office of Foreign Affairs.
16-09-2003, 03:15
I thought ya'll managed to avoid war over AIM.
Isla de Penguinata
16-09-2003, 03:18
I thought ya'll managed to avoid war over AIM.

I thought so too..but nobody will let me know Trailers or AMF's s/ns *AHEM!*, so yeah. I dunno, it looks like it may or may not happen. :?
16-09-2003, 03:19
I thought ya'll managed to avoid war over AIM.

I thought so too..but nobody will let me know Trailers or AMF's s/ns *AHEM!*, so yeah. I dunno, it looks like it may or may not happen. :?

ah
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 03:46
Damien looked out of the control room window at Camp Blade after arriving back from Danya, having recently assimilated them into the Empire. Damien looked at the columns of Sentinels, standing at attention. Thousands of them standing motionless, the same robotic expression on the sea of faces. Damien rubbed his chin, and turned to his desk. There, he told his secretary to take a note.

Tell Trailers that they have 36 hours to stand down, and abort their little declaration. If they do not comply in those 36 hours, the Sentinels shall rain blood, death and war upon the people's of Trailers. We shall march over the broken bodies of their soldiers, and hang their rotting corpses at the farthest borders of AMF. Festering and rotting, they shall sit as an eternal reminder NOT to tempt the hand of the Sentinels. We shall decend upon them like water breaking from a dam, and we will pillage and burn our way into their capitol, griding it to dust under the feet of the Empire. This is what will happen if they do not come to their senses in 36 hours.


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Send it to them immediatly. The clock starts ticking....now.
The Eastern Bloc
16-09-2003, 05:40
Icarus Traiden looked over the message from AMF, "They have 36 hours, eh? I sincerely hope they stand down." The Emperors servant entered the room with another note. He read it to the tired leader, "From all of us at the Directorate, we are saddened that you could not join us in our meeting. As per your orders I raised the issue of the Royal Navys use in the possible conflict, and the Magistrates will not protest the decision. Signed, Reamus Kastor." Traiden nodded, "Good, have the assigned fleet depart at once. They are to run drills and perform combat manuevers until otherwise ordered." The servant bowed, and left the room.
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 05:54
Sir, the mesage has been delivered. All we can do it wait.

Damien nodded in response. He returned to his desk as the Sentinels continued making their preperations, should Trailers continue. Damien's rage grew as he assed the situation, which had been blown out of hand by the Trailers goernment. He did not know why he had spared Trailers, perhaps it was pity, pity due to complete stupidity.

As Damien thought on, his aid came in, informing him of the press conference that started in 3 minutes. Damien made his way to the main hall, where the press anxiously awaited. He entered the main hall, and the room instantly grew silent. He spoke, in a deep, rage filled voice.

Fellow Freeks, today war was declared on the Empire by Trailers. I know most of you know not of Trailers, for they are meek and insignificant. An "incident" occured at a shipyard under Trailers control, and before allowing us time to explain, the coward heathens declared war on us. I have given them 36 hours to stand down and withdraw their declaration, or else the Sentinels shall trounch them into oblivion. Their complete and utter lack of respect and patience will lead to their undoing, should they not stand down. As we speak, thousands of Sentinels are preparing for war, should they choose to continue their campaign of suicide. Should the Trailers government continue, they shall witness first hand death and torment to their people, as the Sentinels bring down hellfire and brimstone. Their cities shall fall to ruin as they are burned and pillaged. Their women, brutalized, screaming into the night. Their men, weeping as pain racks their bodies, praying to their God for the agony to end. Their children, standing in the rubble of their homes, crying. This is what shall come to pass after 36 hours. We will leave Trailers a sad, pitiful land of despair and destruction, after the Sentinels finish their business.

Trailers, the clock is ticking.

The flame has returned.


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-Supreme Warlord of AMF-


Damien stormed away from the podium, his rage swelling up inside him.
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 21:02
Nearly 10 hours had passed, and still no word from the Trailers government. Damien sat in his office, watching the news. Fed up, he turned it off, and again walked to his secretary.

Any word yet?

The secretary looked up.

No Sir, I haven't recieved any transmissions from the Trailers government.

Damien inhaled slowly. He was beginning to become annoyed with these people.

And to think I was going to help them fix their shipyards....ungrateful bastards...

A little over 24 hours remained.
Klonor
16-09-2003, 22:37
Trailers, for the love of god, answer him!
imported_Christoniac
16-09-2003, 22:52
As you can see Trailers, your actions were completely unjust. Yes, something happened out there in space, but why did you not try and use the pen, instead of the sword? And what would make you think that you could even contend with the Sentinels of AMF? And you talk of alliances? Your allies are not stupid, so they would abandon you, for there is no way they would risk their own destruction for you.

You should really rethink your priorities.


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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
Hes only got those cool pens of james bond :lol:
imported_Christoniac
16-09-2003, 22:54
If war comes down to it Automag will have the full military support of my government.
Thelas
16-09-2003, 22:55
Trailers, two wars with larger nations is not a good idea (He is supporting United Hiigarans, who the Taidan, Myself, Bajon and Russian Rebels, all of them larger than he is!) but if this comes to war, though at times we have not agreed with AMF we will support them, if not with troops with supplies, Trailers, can you give myself and AMF a map of your nation?
16-09-2003, 22:59
I dont think Trailers will respond, due to the Mighty Power Auto mustin' told him about....
16-09-2003, 23:02
We would urge both sides to make the utmost attempts at a diplomatic resolution. A war would be incredibly costly to both sides and can only result in needless bloodshed.

We would be willing to play host to diplomatic negotiations, should both AMF and Trailers agree.
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 23:02
Damein Dreadfire sends his thanks to Christoniac and Thelas.

Trailers, surely you know you cannot win this fight, so why not just let it go? We have offered to repair your shipyards, and you STILL don't know the true reason behind the strike. You definatly over-reacted, but now you need to get your head out of your ass before your nation becomes nothing more than a memory.


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-First Automata of AMF-
~Dark Queen of the Empire~
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 23:04
We would urge both sides to make the utmost attempts at a diplomatic resolution. A war would be incredibly costly to both sides and can only result in needless bloodshed.

We would be willing to play host to diplomatic negotiations, should both AMF and Trailers agree.

That is not neccessary, because either Trailers stands down, or he dies, it's as simple as that. Nobody threatens the Empire with a declaration of war and lives to tell of it. However, a mutual decision was reached in the Senate to let Trailers off easy, should he comply and stand down.

The clock is still ticking Trailers.


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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
16-09-2003, 23:05
AMF-AIM now...please. :D
16-09-2003, 23:08
That is not neccessary, because either Trailers stands down, or he dies, it's as simple as that. Nobody threatens the Empire with a declaration of war and lives to tell of it. However, a mutual decision was reached in the Senate to let Trailers off easy, should he comply and stand down.

The clock is still ticking Trailers.


Surely, as such a large and powerful nation yourself, you would realise the power that diplomacy can offer and the ability it has to overcome the most distasteful of situations? Surely, by showing Trailers that diplomacy can still be utilised even when a nation is greatly angered, it will help prevent this type of affair from arising in the future?
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 23:11
Surely, as such a large and powerful nation yourself, you would realise the power that diplomacy can offer and the ability it has to overcome the most distasteful of situations? Surely, by showing Trailers that diplomacy can still be utilised even when a nation is greatly angered, it will help prevent this type of affair from arising in the future?

Naturally, that is why we are giving him this chance to back down.

It's still not too late, Trailers.

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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
imported_Pantera
16-09-2003, 23:12
An aid made reports to the Lord Reaver, finally coming to the matter at hand. His explanation is quick, and to the point.

"Trailers, eh? The shite of the earth, I say. Pray that Dreadfire purges them, as fools bother me and the world would be well without such an ass. I'm sure the bastards will cower, though."

The aid nods quickly, totally in agreement with his warrior-king.
16-09-2003, 23:17
Trailers, you shouldn't just say your bringing in the alliances your in without notifying us. Its like saying your friend can beat someone up, but that still means you can't do it yourself.

As a representative of "The Alliance," I would like to inquire as to why this is escalating into war. What are the reasons for the previously mentioned airstrikes against Trailers? Why did Trailers declare war? This sounds deeper than just an airstrike.

~Kevin Devine
Chairman, Council of State Affairs
Dominion of Isolationist People
16-09-2003, 23:22
Trailers, you shouldn't just say your bringing in the alliances your in without notifying us. Its like saying your friend can beat someone up, but that still means you can't do it yourself.

As a representative of "The Alliance," I would like to inquire as to why this is escalating into war. What are the reasons for the previously mentioned airstrikes against Trailers? Why did Trailers declare war? This sounds deeper than just an airstrike.

~Kevin Devine
Chairman, Council of State Affairs
Dominion of Isolationist People

Auto Attacked Trailer's shipyard....
16-09-2003, 23:22
Trailers, you shouldn't just say your bringing in the alliances your in without notifying us. Its like saying your friend can beat someone up, but that still means you can't do it yourself.

As a representative of "The Alliance," I would like to inquire as to why this is escalating into war. What are the reasons for the previously mentioned airstrikes against Trailers? Why did Trailers declare war? This sounds deeper than just an airstrike.

~Kevin Devine
Chairman, Council of State Affairs
Dominion of Isolationist People

Auto Attacked Trailer's shipyard....
16-09-2003, 23:26
The government of Tilsitsin urges all peace-loving nations to band together to stop AMF from causing further destruction to other nations, and to this end we diplomatically support Trailers in it's efforts against AMF.

Unfortunately, AMF became involved in a war in which we were fighting and in which they had no reason or right to enter, thus we support any effort at curbing AMF's militant aggression.
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 23:27
You all want to know? Well, here it is.....classified documents stolen from the archives.

To sum it up, AMF is in open conflict with Tilsitsin. 3 fighter wings were dispatched to set coordinates, and told to clear out all orbital space.

Now, either they mistook Tilsitsin with Trailers (seems unlikely) or the coordinates were incorrect (what we are almost sure of).

There, it is revealed. As you see, Trailers was never apart of the equation.


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Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 23:28
The government of Tilsitsin urges all peace-loving nations to band together to stop AMF from causing further destruction to other nations, and to this end we diplomatically support Trailers in it's efforts against AMF.

Unfortunately, AMF became involved in a war in which we were fighting and in which they had no reason or right to enter, thus we support any effort at curbing AMF's militant aggression.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71029

As you can see, your business with Pantera is our busniess as well.


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---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-
16-09-2003, 23:31
You all want to know? Well, here it is.....classified documents stolen from the archives.

To sum it up, AMF is in open conflict with Tilsitsin. 3 fighter wings were dispatched to set coordinates, and told to clear out all orbital space.

Now, either they mistook Tilsitsin with Trailers (seems unlikely) or the coordinates were incorrect (what we are almost sure of).

There, it is revealed. As you see, Trailers was never apart of the equation.

http://www.hei.ro/album/img_mici/Celebritati/din_Filme/Arnold%20Schwarzenegger%20%5B02%5D.jpg
John Kimble
-AMF Information Ministry-


So, in other words, its a "mistake" thats not a "mistake"?
16-09-2003, 23:31
The government of Tilsitsin urges all peace-loving nations to band together to stop AMF from causing further destruction to other nations, and to this end we diplomatically support Trailers in it's efforts against AMF.

Unfortunately, AMF became involved in a war in which we were fighting and in which they had no reason or right to enter, thus we support any effort at curbing AMF's militant aggression.

You still stand no chance.

I was Tech-A and it was 1 day older than you....

Auto, destroyed me with a HOUND... Dont think of it trying to destroy Auto, because it wont work...
Automagfreek
16-09-2003, 23:32
So, in other words, its a "mistake" thats not a "mistake"?

More like, it was a simple error.



http://www.hei.ro/album/img_mici/Celebritati/din_Filme/Arnold%20Schwarzenegger%20%5B02%5D.jpg
John Kimble
-AMF Information Ministry-
Omz222
16-09-2003, 23:33
We are a member of "The Alliance", and we will not support Trailers.

We pledge our moral support to Automagfreek.

Foreign Affairs Ministry
The Mindset
16-09-2003, 23:34
As far as I was aware, AMF disbanded all his nuclear weapons, including HOUNDS a while back. I may be mistaken or going on out of date info though.
Scandavian States
16-09-2003, 23:47
Since Trailers declared war without good cause, we do not believe that he is in good standing concerning Article 7 and therefore we cannot defend Trailers.
Isla de Penguinata
17-09-2003, 00:21
The Presidential Palace was buzzing with hundreds of interns, aides, and undersecretaries trying to get back and forth to their Secretaries and the President. They had all heard the news, and a kind of haughty excitement was upon them all. Josef Van Guren, USSIP Secretary of Defense, walked up to President Coulten.
"Madame President, I am requesting permission to mobilize the military in the event that Automagfreek should need our help."
"Of course Josef, and I want you to double up on drills and exercises. We need to be prepared. And damnit, build up our Navy, God knows we need to."
"Yes, Madame President."

The buzzing continued, and then a warning signal came over the intercom system.

"This is President Coulten. As you know, we are mobilizing our Armed Forces in the event that we must go to war. All of you have a responsibility. At this special time of need, if any one of you fail, from my Cabinet down to any mail carrier, you will be promptly fired and replaced. There are 516 million people in this country, don't think you aren't expendable. Now get your asses working, and do a good job! Thank you sincerely, your President and representative in the international community."
Automagfreek
17-09-2003, 03:46
OOC: You have around 19-20 hours left, Trailers.
Isla de Penguinata
17-09-2003, 03:52
OOC: I doubt he's going to respond. He's probably going to not post until the deadline is over..He's too scared to post. :P
The Eastern Bloc
17-09-2003, 04:02
Emperor Traiden laughed, "Damien seems to grow more impatient by the hour. I wonder why Trailers does not respond. All he'd have to do is say... I'm sorry... I understand, and that'd be the end of it." Advisor Duket nodded, "Of course. Damien... while headstrong, is benevolent for the most part." Traiden stood, "Inform our forces of my command. They are to move from Eurydian space... to neutral territory."

(OOC: What does you moving to earth do for this conflict? Will your colony do the fightin?)
17-09-2003, 04:10
OOC: You have around 19-20 hours left, Trailers.

Trailers, has ran....

I have no choice, but to help him ABORT this war. :!:
Automagfreek
17-09-2003, 20:31
Tick tock, Trailers. Tick tock......
17-09-2003, 20:47
Tick tock, Trailers. Tick tock......

Lemme guess...he's pissed off SkyNet...
Automagfreek
18-09-2003, 02:15
No, he just declared war on us over an accident.

Only a few hours left Trailers, if those few hours (3 or 4) pass, then embrace your doom.
Automagfreek
18-09-2003, 03:00
Seeing as Trailers is showing no intent of backing down, we are preparing a full mobilization force. Only a few hours remain before Trailers becomes nothing more than a memory. Diplomacy has almost run it's course, and in a few hours, action will result from this uncalled for declaration of war.
Domo Kuns
18-09-2003, 03:04
Good God Trailers....just back down, it's not worth sacrificing your nation!
Phyrric
18-09-2003, 03:04
(carrying snack tray)

peanuts! buy your peanuts! we have peanuts here, and popcorn, get you hot buttered popcorn. front row seats for this slaughter, get them while they are all hot.
Trailers
18-09-2003, 03:05
If this was simply a mistake,then why were the big flashing signs ignored..

Really.
Automagfreek
18-09-2003, 03:06
If this was simply a mistake,then why were the big flashing signs ignored..

Really.

Big flashing signs? What are you talking about?

The government has admitted it madea a mistake, accidently targeting the wrong nation's assets. We did not want to release the documents explaining the mistake, because we did not want to seem to have ignorant pilots.

Now, either back down, or when time expires........
Domo Kuns
18-09-2003, 03:16
Geez, you'd think Trailers #1 priority would be to talk his way outta this.

Guess not....

*grabs popcorn*

This should be good.
Klonor
18-09-2003, 03:24
Trailers, it was an accident. Let it go! The GA does not want a war!
Automagfreek
18-09-2003, 03:26
Trailers, it was an accident. Let it go! The GA does not want a war!

The GA cannot back him, because he declared war first.

Trailers, you have 1 HOUR left to stand down. I'm not backing down from this. You declared war unjustly after an accident, now take responsibility. Stand down, or fight.
Klonor
18-09-2003, 03:28
Actually, it just has to not be his fault. It doesn't matter if he declared war, as long as it wasn't his fault.

He thinks you attacked him. I know you didn't, you know you didn't, but he doesn't seem to. So, he's not the reason for the war.

It's complicated.
Automagfreek
18-09-2003, 03:30
Actually, it just has to not be his fault. It doesn't matter if he declared war, as long as it wasn't his fault.

He thinks you attacked him. I know you didn't, you know you didn't, but he doesn't seem to. So, he's not the reason for the war.

It's complicated.

But regardless, if the GA wants to step in, I'll bring out the big guns: the Blood Pact, Chromestar Alliance, and basically any other nation that backs me. The GA getting involved will mean it's destruction.

I suggest this stays between me and Trailers.
18-09-2003, 03:31
"The Empire fully backs Automagfreek in this conflict. If allies of Trailers gets involved, Neo-Wu will deal with them accordingly so that AMF may devote his full attention to the quick destruction of Trailers."

--------------------
http://www.freewebs.com/neo-wu/huangzhong.JPG
Lord-Commander Sun Shiang, Elder Military Strategist of Neo-Wu
"Innocence Proves Nothing"
Automagfreek
18-09-2003, 03:32
"The Empire fully backs Automagfreek in this conflict. If allies of Trailers gets involved, Neo-Wu will deal with them accordingly so that AMF may devote his full attention to the quick destruction of Trailers."


As always, we appreciate the support from Neo-Wu, if it is needed of course.

http://invisionfree.com:54/40/9/upload/p3403.jpg
---Damien Dreadfire---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-


OOC: BTW, 47 Ursa Majoris got 3 new members, all of them close to 1 billion. :twisted:
Klonor
18-09-2003, 03:34
The GA has to get involved, it's in the Constitution. And we have over 50 members, many of them Jan, Feb, and March nations.

We have numbers, age, experience, technology, and the willingess to use it (though not an urge to)
18-09-2003, 03:34
Uhhh....*looks back and fourth*I support A.... no I...Yeah AMF!grrr...im neutral.
Automagfreek
18-09-2003, 03:36
The GA has to get involved, it's in the Constitution. And we have over 50 members, many of them Jan, Feb, and March nations.

We have numbers, age, experience, technology, and the willingess to use it (though not an urge to)


Then your Constitution is flawed. Your Article 7 is hypocrytical. You say that members are required to assist ONLY if the action was not the doing of a GA member. Regardless of Trailers' perception of what happened, the GA cannot get involved, for Trailers declared war FIRST. He should have solved it diplomatically, but instead he jumped the gun. Now you tell me you HAVE to get involved? Please.

GA officially backs warmongerers.

You Alliance needs to re-evaluate it's constitution.
Alibakkar
18-09-2003, 03:37
OOC: Damien's a real mother f-er. I like you better before you moved to space and became the weird dictatorship/fuedal society/whatever you have now.
Automagfreek
18-09-2003, 03:38
OOC: Damien's a real mother f-er. I like you better before you moved to space and became the weird dictatorship/fuedal society/whatever you have now.

OOC: I came back from space yesterday, it sucked. BTW, my government change has nothing to do with this conflict.
Alibakkar
18-09-2003, 03:39
OOC: Damien's a real mother f-er. I like you better before you moved to space and became the weird dictatorship/fuedal society/whatever you have now.

OOC: I came back from space yesterday, it sucked. BTW, my government change has nothing to do with this conflict.

I know the latter part, but can I get a link to your return topic?
Automagfreek
18-09-2003, 03:40
I know the latter part, but can I get a link to your return topic?

Sure, I'll get it soon, although it got locked due to flamage. I'll find the other one that didn't get locked.
Alibakkar
18-09-2003, 03:40
What does GA stand for? Galactic Alliance?
Klonor
18-09-2003, 03:40
No, Article 7 states that the GA must get involved if the situation is not his/her fault. it has nothing to do with who declared war.

I'll give an example.

WWII: The U.S. Declared war on Japan in retaliation for the attack on Pearl Harbor. The U.S. declared the war, but Japan started it.

And I really don't want this war, the GA is not backing it, we are just required to get involved. It's a lot like WWI, two nations get into a fight and their treaties with other nations require them to start fighting. Soon, everybody starts fighting.
Klonor
18-09-2003, 03:41
What does GA stand for? Galactic Alliance?

Yup
Alibakkar
18-09-2003, 03:42
I know the latter part, but can I get a link to your return topic?

Sure, I'll get it soon, although it got locked due to flamage. I'll find the other one that didn't get locked.

Don't worry, I found the topics.
Automagfreek
18-09-2003, 03:43
Article 7:
If a member is in trouble, not caused by his/her doing, all other members are required to pledge any support they can.


This conflcit is ENTIRELY caused by Trailers. My nation was fully prepared to fund and help repait his shipyards, and it was admitted that the pilots were at fault. Trailers should have called it quits there, but he insists on aking war on me.

The GA cannot get involved, for it was TRAILERS actions that got him in this mess, not my own. Had he simply demanded compensation for damages, this all could have been avoided.

I stand by my statement of the GA supporting warmongerers.
18-09-2003, 03:43
I WANT WAR :twisted:
Automagfreek
18-09-2003, 03:44
WWII: The U.S. Declared war on Japan in retaliation for the attack on Pearl Harbor. The U.S. declared the war, but Japan started it.


That was a predetermined act of war, this was a mistake. You cannot compare the two.
18-09-2003, 03:46
WWII: The U.S. Declared war on Japan in retaliation for the attack on Pearl Harbor. The U.S. declared the war, but Japan started it.


That was a predetermined act of war, this was a mistake. You cannot compare the two.

Auto is right. Pearl Harbor was supposed to happen after Japan's declaration of war reached the White House. Unfortuneatly, the declaration came about 4 hours late, I believe. (My memory is a bit sketchy when it comes to Pearl Harbor)
Klonor
18-09-2003, 03:52
I know you didn't mean to attack. I know it was not a premeditated act. I've said so before. the thing is, Trailers thinks it was an act of war. He thinks it was a premeditated act. If a person goes to war on bad information *COUGH*BUSH*COUGH* then it could be argued that it's not the person's fault.

It's complicated, it depends to much on peoples view of things, and it's a pin in the a** for the GA. I'm going to re-word the constitution so that it can't be interpreted that way, but right now it can, and it means that the GA has to get in the war.

If you'd please hold off on the war long enough for me modify the constitution, I'd make it so that the GA wont get involved here, and you can blow Trailers up that much more easily.
Automagfreek
18-09-2003, 03:54
I know you didn't mean to attack. I know it was not a premeditated act. I've said so before. the thing is, Trailers thinks it was an act of war. He thinks it was a premeditated act. If a person goes to war on bad information *COUGH*BUSH*COUGH* then it could be argued that it's not the person's fault.

It's complicated, it depends to much on peoples view of things, and it's a pin in the a** for the GA. I'm going to re-word the constitution so that it can't be interpreted that way, but right now it can, and it means that the GA has to get in the war.

If you'd please hold off on the war long enough for me modify the constitution, I'd make it so that the GA wont get involved here, and you can blow Trailers up that much more easily.

Regardless of Trailers feelings about right and wrong, the GA cannot get involved due to article 7.

Is it not the GA that decides wether or not to get involved, and not Trailers?
Klonor
18-09-2003, 04:04
It depends. It's really complicated. That's why I'm gonna re-word the constitution.

Just hold off on war until it's been re-worded, then this entire argument will be moot.
Alibakkar
18-09-2003, 04:07
OOC: How much time left? 22 minutes or so?
18-09-2003, 04:11
move along..
Klonor
18-09-2003, 04:11
Okay, constitution has been modified. Go kill Trailers. Trailers, try not to get into this war, I don't want to see you die.
Klonor
18-09-2003, 04:12
It depends. It's really complicated. That's why I'm gonna re-word the constitution.

Just hold off on war until it's been re-worded, then this entire argument will be moot.

How long does it take to re-word maybe a sentance or two of one Article?

I have to make sure it means the exact same thing that it's supposed to mean, yet it doesn't have the same problem.
18-09-2003, 04:14
As a final warning, the people of Neo-Wu wish this war to be quick and clean for AMF. Therefore, if any ally of Trailers wishes to engage in a conflict, Neo-Wu will take the fight to them.
Chellis
18-09-2003, 04:17
WWII: The U.S. Declared war on Japan in retaliation for the attack on Pearl Harbor. The U.S. declared the war, but Japan started it.

Thats an invalid example. America had eagle squadrens in china surprise bombing japanese, so americans were attacking first.
Klonor
18-09-2003, 04:18
We've already moved past this.
Chellis
18-09-2003, 04:19
Yes, but I always have to get my 2 cents in.
Klonor
18-09-2003, 04:20
Can you give me some? I wanted to buy a gumball
Chellis
18-09-2003, 04:20
You arent sure if you want to buy a gumball? Make up your mind before taking my money!
Klonor
18-09-2003, 04:22
Gum is good
Isla de Penguinata
18-09-2003, 04:28
Isla de Penguinata is fully prepared to defend Automagfreek in the event that anyone should threaten to attack the said nation, Our Navy is on high alert, as well as our air force and army.

Trailers, for your own safety, we suggest you back down.
Automagfreek
18-09-2003, 05:00
Time's up Trailers.

Being the fair and noble nation that we are, we will still give you a chance to surrender.

AMF forces have begun mobilization.
18-09-2003, 05:17
The SEF Forces have been deployed in Trailers.
Phyrric
19-09-2003, 02:19
what is SEF?

Message to Auto:

As usual, Phyrric will assist you if the situation calls for it.
Celack
19-09-2003, 02:30
Due to some engagement elsewere we cannot send you much aid in this attack but we can send you 2 cruisers and a frigate for aid. We also have the latest shipment of your soliders ready....
Chellis
19-09-2003, 02:33
Chellis will /obliterate/ trailers if it attacks AMF. That is all.
19-09-2003, 04:03
Speaking on our behalf, we will not support Trailers even though he is in "The Alliance," as are we. We have seen no reason as to why Trailers would start such things. We doubt any members of "The Alliance" or any of his other alliances would support him, and we encourage them to not follow Trailers to his destruction.

We will watch this incident, but remain neutral.
Steel Butterfly
19-09-2003, 04:04
Automagfreek, do you require any assistance? If so...feel free to telegram me about it.
19-09-2003, 04:16
what is SEF?

Message to Auto:

As usual, Phyrric will assist you if the situation calls for it.

SEF
Special Emergacy Forces
Phyrric
19-09-2003, 04:19
what is SEF?

Message to Auto:

As usual, Phyrric will assist you if the situation calls for it.

SEF
Special Emergacy Forces

assisting trailers? suicide wish?
TG me with intentions please before I annex you.
Phyrric
19-09-2003, 04:29
noted and tagged
Automagfreek
19-09-2003, 06:18
Message to all: I will handle Trailers personally. Should any allies of his jump in, then you can assist.
Chellis
19-09-2003, 07:50
Aww, can i at least send a division to help? If so...

The 21st Mechanized division

18,000 men total

8,000 infantry(varied)
400 Penguin Transports
200 Algae Transports
10 F-2 Cargo Helicopters
660 M4A3T2 Sherman Support tanks(modernized into mobile guns)
330 Sniper Tank Destroyers(upgrade of an old version)
4,850 support troops(medics, engineers, everything else)

8,000 +
1,200 +
600+
50 +
1,980 +
1,320+
4,850=

18,000
19-09-2003, 16:07
WWII: The U.S. Declared war on Japan in retaliation for the attack on Pearl Harbor. The U.S. declared the war, but Japan started it.


That was a predetermined act of war, this was a mistake. You cannot compare the two.

Auto is right. Pearl Harbor was supposed to happen after Japan's declaration of war reached the White House. Unfortuneatly, the declaration came about 4 hours late, I believe. (My memory is a bit sketchy when it comes to Pearl Harbor)

The reason it was late was because according to Japanese security protocol, the declaration itself had to be sent under encryption at the highest security level, and only the ambassador himself could actually see the decrypted version. This meant that their professional cryptographer couldn't decode it. The ambassador himself, meanwhile, had almost no cryptographic skill, so it took him far, far longer to decode it than it should have. If their professional had been permitted to decode it, the declaration of war would have been delivered at the time it was meant to be (which, IIRC, was half an hour before the attack at Pearl Harbor, but I could be wrong).
Steel Butterfly
19-09-2003, 16:31
Message to all: I will handle Trailers personally. Should any allies of his jump in, then you can assist.

Understood...lets get this thing rolling.

What tech level is he in?
19-09-2003, 16:38
Message to all: I will handle Trailers personally. Should any allies of his jump in, then you can assist.

Understood...lets get this thing rolling.

What tech level is he in?

He's in the Galactic Alliance. In other words, expect all sorts of jacked up things to come flying out of his ass.
Automagfreek
19-09-2003, 18:16
He's in the Galactic Alliance. In other words, expect all sorts of jacked up things to come flying out of his ass.

Oh I'm expecting anything. I won't use my space fleets unless he uses his, and most likely he will.
Wolfish
19-09-2003, 18:29
:roll: This should be an exercise in godmodery. Tag for entertainment purposes only.
Omz222
19-09-2003, 18:42
---Tag---
Celack
19-09-2003, 21:38
Tag for a change to help auto. BTW remeber when you did those uber-human soliders and put a training centre in one of my bases with my permission? Well I am shipping some out to you...
Automagfreek
26-05-2004, 06:51
OOC: I know this is gravedigging. This thread is so damn old I'm surprised it hasn't been purged.

Who remembers this thread?
26-05-2004, 07:18
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Klonor
27-05-2004, 01:38
Oy, remember my idiotic babble in this thread? Did I make any sense here?
Chellis
27-05-2004, 02:13
Yeah. Im so glad I updated my equipment. That old stuff sucked.