NationStates Jolt Archive

It occured to me that so far, NS has no way to validate a victory in a war, or penalize the loser. So, in the spirit of realism, I have decided to create the Arbiter Coalition. Arbiters would act as judges around the International Incidents forum. They would mediate surrenders, validate treaties, and settle disputes. They would bring conseqences to those who warmonger. You might think of them as RP moderators who can't delete your posts.

An Arbiter would make executive decisions, which could be appealed to the entire Coalition. The decison could be overturned with 2/3 majority vote.

Arbiters, due to their job, would have to be frequent players. They would also have to be responsible. There will be no population requirement.

Please apply. We do not have a private forum or anything. We are free form until called together for a joint decision. If you have any questions or comments, please post them.

I'm more than willing to be an arbitrator. I sign on just about every day and for multiple hours due to a desk job at the moment. I think this is a good idea.

Welcome aboard, Arbiter Agnosticium. Though the official title is Arbiter (because that sounds cooler :D ).

But the job is serious. Take time to weight the situations. I have the feeling you will be a good Arbiter.

Bump

I'll join. I don't post a lot but I read the forums regurlarly and could serve as a 'arbiter' well.

Yankovic

Anybody else? We really need more people.

Hello? Anyone out there?

Please, we need more Arbiters.

I'll join. For cookies!
Do you think instead of titles as powerbroker or democrat or whatever,
the mods could change us to Arbiter? That would be kinda cool! 8)
Only an idea, but if you think it's a good one, put it on the good ol'
moderation forum.

Within Magdoria, everyone knows that Magdor the Terrible, as a judge, has a 100% conviction rate in his court.
We are willing to become an arbiter if you are willing??

Lord Magdor the Terrible
Head of State and Emperor of Magdoria
Head of the Evil and Self Sustaining State Bureaucracy (though we dont know why and are afraid to ask!)

Thank you, Arbiter Pineapple. A gift basket of cookies is coming your way. You propose an interesting idea, but wait until we are more off the ground first.

Our thanks to you as well, Arbiter Magdor. Keep in mind, our cases will contain few "innocent" or "guilty" parties. Our job is to delegate responsibility and penelties where they are needed. And while you are apparently very evil, I would like to request that you make your decisions impassivly.

(Sorry about my spelling. I hope I didn't miss anything.)

Well, hwy this is a god idea, just exactly hwo are you guys to say whats right and whats wrong. Adn for this to really have any authority then you would need a real mod to come in and verify each one of you.

Thank you, Arbiter Pineapple. A gift basket of cookies is coming your way. You propose an interesting idea, but wait until we are more off the ground first.

Our thanks to you as well, Arbiter Magdor. Keep in mind, our cases will contain few "innocent" or "guilty" parties. Our job is to delegate responsibility and penelties where they are needed. And while you are apparently very evil, I would like to request that you make your decisions impassivly.

(Sorry about my spelling. I hope I didn't miss anything.)

Lord Magdor is not promising anything, however Lord Magdor said he will try to be impartial especially in the when the decision causes a harsh penalty for a particular party.

Lord Magdor the Terrible
Head of State and Emperor of Magdoria
Head of the Evil and Self Sustaining State Bureaucracy (though we dont know why and are afraid to ask!)

ooc: Edit the first post in the thread to include an up to date list of all Arbitration persons...

Mediating surrenders and so forth seems a bit pointless....


Oh and please note Ive been voted to be biggest war mongerer in NS< do not bother me with suggestions of diplomacy.

ANd really, most of you dont have much RP experience, looking form the post counts on you guys(cept for the one wiht 800). I really dont know how your going to enforce this, becuase there is always gonna be someone else bigger and badder than you. and anyways wiht your relative lack of RPing, who's to say you'll make a good decision.

this sounds like a really good idea and i would love to participate, but what if the arbiters are drawn into a war? or would war be off limits?

ANd really, most of you dont have much RP experience, looking form the post counts on you guys(cept for the one wiht 800). I really dont know how your going to enforce this, becuase there is always gonna be someone else bigger and badder than you. and anyways wiht your relative lack of RPing, who's to say you'll make a good decision.

OOC: I have plenty of RP experience through the use of previous nations, thankyou! I did however grow bored with my previous nations after a while but I am now happy with this one.

Sounds creative...I might be interested.

ANd really, most of you dont have much RP experience, looking form the post counts on you guys(cept for the one wiht 800). I really dont know how your going to enforce this, becuase there is always gonna be someone else bigger and badder than you. and anyways wiht your relative lack of RPing, who's to say you'll make a good decision.

OOC: I have plenty of RP experience through the use of previous nations, thankyou! I did however grow bored with my previous nations after a while but I am now happy with this one.

That thing was based on all of your current post counts.

But if you guys can get soem actual validation and rules set down i will be wuite interested

While we don't have actual power, we would be able to make our own. Our reputation would proceed us. But we are not interested in fighting everyone who stands in our way to make our voice heard. As for actually being validated by the moderators, that may be something to look into.

As far as credibility of the decisons go, an involved party can appeal the decision to the entire Arbiter court.

For those who say that this is just pointless, keep in mind that most wars just come and go. If a country lost a war, for instance, their nation and economy would in decline for months, if not years. So instead of a nation just saying, "I fought a war yesterday, time for another," we might pass judgement saying that due to the economic stress on their nation, they will be incapable of fighting for another month or so (a day RL). It would be up to the Arbiter to decide this sort of thing. It would also help cut down on warmongering if those nations who do that knew that there would be repercussions for going to war, just like in the real world.

Just because you're an Arbiter, does not mean that you can't fight in a war. It just means that you can't mediate yourself. As all the Arbiters must be impartial, there should be no conflict of interest.

Welcome, Arbiter Jitano.

AMF, we could really use some backing from a well-known name like yourself.

AMF, we could really use some backing from a well-known name like yourself.

Alright, you have my full support!

:)

Excellent. Does this mean that you embrace the title of Arbiter? Or are you just voicing support for us?

Hey, i like the idea now, i would liek to join, become one.

has anyone spoken to a mod yet? i'll do that now i think

i'll help.....if you'll let me

Welcome, Arbiter Ardor and Arbiter Jarvisimo.

All Arbiters: Keep a look out for wars and conflicts. ONe in particular is Markov v. New Empire. There are undoubtly others, so keep your eyes open.

Now may not be the right time to ask for power from the mods. We need to prove we can use it responcibly first.

I would sure like to see an example of an arbiter at work

Take a look at this tread:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1523406#1523406

I made a ruling there. We'll see how it turns out.

Anyone else interseted?

Bump

This "Arbiting" prospect sounds interesting, I would like to put forth my services as an Arbiter.

Eh, voting as to who wins wars? Doesn't seem quite like what we need. It's too situational to have some sort of council deciding everything, and you'd quickly be overworked and forced to grow numb to godmodding what with so much of it going around, constantly. Meanwhile good war RPers tend to either use their own sense or elect among them someone they know and trust to be able to GM, if needed. Thats my thoughts. This looks like just another OOC cliqueish sorta club/alliance to me. :?

Egocenturia, I accept your offer! This looks fun.

Sketch: Welcome, Arbiter Sketch. I've been away for a while, so I don't know all the latest situations. I trust you will do well.

Santa Barbara: We don't decide who wins wars; we just diecide what effects the war has after the fact. And while some RPrs do decide what the effects are for themselves, most do not. Our goal is to bring an element of realism to the game by enforcing after effects of conflict on those who do not do it for themselves.

Lunatic Retard Robots: Welcome, Arbiter LRB! May your decisions ring justly.