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Here is my military... my first attempt so please lay off and offer suggestions

Soviet Canukstan
Population: 56 000 000
Percentage of population in armed forces: 5%
Total number men and women in armed forces: 2800000
Note: Due to Soviet Canukastan's dictator's paranoia everyone over the age of 16 and under the age of 45 without any physical handicaps or illnesses spend two months every year in military training or in military assignments and the rest of the Partisan guard (The National Guard) can be mobilized within 36 hours.

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BMP-4s are modified BMP-3s, they have room for 12 passengers, slighty bigger, have a 110 mm cannon, AT-10 "Stabber" anti tank missles, but nothing else has changed much.

The ZSU-23-4 although made to counter aircraft can also be used against infantry and lightly armoured vehicles.

1st Elite Guard
8000 special forces infantry
Armed and equiped with SAIGA-308 rifles, kevlar, various kinds of gernades And various electronic equipment.
300 BMP-4s

1st to 5th Mechanicalized Infantry Division
10000 infantry in each division, every 12 man squad is assigned a BMP-3
armed as above, each 12 man squad has two, two man HEAT/Chemical/Napalm/Frag rocket launcher team.
1500 BMP-4s
150 ZSU-23-4 anti-aircraft guns
300 Light Armoured Vehicles(As reconnaisance)

1st to 10th Infantry Division
10000 Infantry in each division
700 BMP-4s
300 LAVs
100 ZSU-23-4 anti-aircraft guns

1st Tank Division
60 T-90 main battle tanks
90 T-80 main battle tanks
40 ZSU-23-4 anti-aircraft guns
10 SA-6 "Gainful" SAM launchers

2nd Tank Division
50 T-80s
100 T-72s
40 ZSU-23-4 anti-aircraft guns
10 SA-6 "Gainful" SAM launchers

1st Paratrooper Division
10000 paratroopers, armed with SAIGA style rifles, RPGs, mortars, etc...
40 An-124 CONDOR transport aircraft
300 BMP-4s

1st Air Cavalry
5000 infantry
20 Mi-26 halo
40 Mi-28 havoc
100 Mi-4 Hound
20 Mi-8 Hip-E

1st Artillery Division
30 155mm Field Guns
50 125mm Field Guns
40 210mm Mortars

2nd Artillery Division
50 120mm Field Guns
60 100mm Field Guns
30 200mm Mortars

Military Police
10000 MPs
50 Mil Mi-4 'Hound' Choppers
250 BMP-4s

1st engineer division
6000 engineers
40 AMX-30 EBGs
300 bulldozers
50 Cranes
700 Trucks
many various construction vehicles that can be obtained from SC's construction companies.

Logistics
50000 personale
1000 trucks
50 Mi-26 Halo transport helicopters
20 II-76 'Candid' transport aircraft

Medical Support
10000 medical personale
50 Mi-25 Halo Transport Helicopters
15 Field Hospitals
200 BMP-4s

Soviet Canukstan's air force
About 6000 airforce personale

24 MiG-25 Foxbat
24 MiG-31 Foxhound
24 MiG-35 MFI
25 II-76 'Candid' Transport aircraft
16 Su-39 'frog foot'
15 Su-35
5 Tu-160 'Black Jack'
12 Tu-95 'Bear'
7 II-76
50 Mi-28 Havoc
100 Mi-8 Hip-E
200 Mi-26 halo

About 10000 personale in communcations tech
About 5000 in SC command

hope that sounds reasonable please tell me there is anything is wrong.

anyone?

It's not bad for starters, but you'll need to have a number of those divisions in reserves, and claiming 5% military is a bit much if you want decent equipment. I would suggest having (and specifically stating), at most, 1-2% in the actual military, with the rest as militia. The air force on the other hand is, if anything, too small, and the lack of a navy will help you bolster the other branches.

On the technical aspect, AT-10s are designed to be fired from 100mm guns, so they can't be fired effectively from a 110mm weapon. For a 110mm gun, you'd need a new missile. Creating one, however, would not be difficult. The AT-10 itself is more or less a scaled down version of the AT-11 (used in 125mm guns), and the AT-12 is little more than a larger version of the AT-10 for 115mm guns. You could designate it the AT-17, or any number after that.
You would also want to redesignate your BMP-4 to at least BMP-5, as the BMP-4 already exists. That particular unit is a modified T-55 chassis with an infantry compartment and the turret from the BTR-80A (30mm cannon & ATGMs).

It's not bad for starters, but you'll need to have a number of those divisions in reserves, and claiming 5% military is a bit much if you want decent equipment. I would suggest having (and specifically stating), at most, 1-2% in the actual military, with the rest as militia. The air force on the other hand is, if anything, too small, and the lack of a navy will help you bolster the other branches.

On the technical aspect, AT-10s are designed to be fired from 100mm guns, so they can't be fired effectively from a 110mm weapon. For a 110mm gun, you'd need a new missile. Creating one, however, would not be difficult. The AT-10 itself is more or less a scaled down version of the AT-11 (used in 125mm guns), and the AT-12 is little more than a larger version of the AT-10 for 115mm guns. You could designate it the AT-17, or any number after that.
You would also want to redesignate your BMP-4 to at least BMP-5, as the BMP-4 already exists. That particular unit is a modified T-55 chassis with an infantry compartment and the turret from the BTR-80A (30mm cannon & ATGMs).

Thank's for your valuable insight, I'm rather reluctent to scale down to 1-2% military but I'll be thinking about it, as well Soviet Canukastan doesn't need a navy... pretty much since it is no where near importent bodies of water. I should do more research then.

looks ok to me, I congratulate you on your non-stupidnoobishness.

A real block country Division is

Mechanized infantry Division
3 Mech Inf Regiments
1 tank regiment
1 artilliery Regiment MED. & Heavy guns SP or FG
1 artillery regiment AAguns and Missile
1 Battallion Combat engineer
1 Batt. Mechanical
1 Batt Transport
1 Batt Signal/intell
1 Batt MASH medical
1 company Military police
1 helo group 5 -10 helos

(soldiers: 12,000 Assault Rifle , 850 RPK/MMG, 450 RPG ,220 MBT , 100 LT, 300 APC,50 SP ART, 40 MRLS/ SA missile/AAgun, 300-10 ton truck, 550-4ton truck, 1100 jeep, 36 NBC, 5-10 Helo)

Source is (US Army)Armor and Mech Inf. Division and platoon Manual FM7-7 Threat assessment

Tank division is same except 3 tnk reg. and 1 MI reg. more tanks less APCs

I personally assign 0.8% of my population into my military (before a traty, which decreased it to 0.6%). But the godo thing about it is, I can afford many modern technologies. By the time when a June 8 nation starts to deploy F-22s, I am already using F-22-tech plane for a few RL weeks.

A real block country Division is

Mechanized infantry Division
3 Mech Inf Regiments
1 tank regiment
1 artilliery Regiment MED. & Heavy guns SP or FG
1 artillery regiment AAguns and Missile
1 Battallion Combat engineer
1 Batt. Mechanical
1 Batt Transport
1 Batt Signal/intell
1 Batt MASH medical
1 company Military police
1 helo group 5 -10 helos

(soldiers: 12,000 Assault Rifle , 850 RPK/MMG, 450 RPG ,220 MBT , 100 LT, 300 APC,50 SP ART, 40 MRLS/ SA missile/AAgun, 300-10 ton truck, 550-4ton truck, 1100 jeep, 36 NBC, 5-10 Helo)

Source is (US Army)Armor and Mech Inf. Division and platoon Manual FM7-7 Threat assessment
The organization of a nation's armed forces can vary greatly. That's just the Soviet TOE. A US mechanized infantry division is notably larger, with over 17,000 troops. If you look it up, a "division" can easily be anywhere from 8000 troops to 20,000, depending on its role and organization. Likewise, a brigade can be anywhere from 1500-10,000. As you can see, there's quite a bit of leeway here.

Looks good to me.

Also, 5% in the military isnt that unreasonable. They wont have the best equipment, and many will be underpaid or with highly questionable training, and they won't have as much practice since tehre's not as much funds for ammunition expenditure, etc. Much like with real Soviet forces!

Looks good to me.

Also, 5% in the military isnt that unreasonable. They wont have the best equipment, and many will be underpaid or with highly questionable training, and they won't have as much practice since tehre's not as much funds for ammunition expenditure, etc. Much like with real Soviet forces!

hehe I'm still looking into it.

In my country, I inspire radical nationalism. Coupled with virtually no weapons control and stiff penalties for almost any crime, you have a national non-organised militia.

OOC:
BMP-4=BTR-T

http://www.army.lv/Tehnika/Obespechenije/BTR-T/BTR-T(2).jpg

**Here's an update to my military**

Here is my military... my second attempt so please lay off and offer suggestions

Soviet Canukstan
Population: 76 000 000
Percentage of population in armed forces: 5%
Total number men and women in armed forces: 3800000
Note: Due to Soviet Canukastan's dictator's paranoia everyone over the age of 16 and under the age of 45 without any physical handicaps or illnesses spend two months every year in military training or in military assignments and the rest of the Partisan guard (The National Guard) can be mobilized within 36 hours.

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1st Elite Guard
9000 special forces infantry
Armed and equiped with SAIGA-308 rifles, kevlar, various kinds of gernades And various electronic equipment.
300 BMP-3s

1st to 5th Mechanicalized Infantry Division
10000 infantry in each division, every 12 man squad is assigned a BMP-3
armed as above, each 12 man squad has two, two man HEAT/Chemical/Napalm/Frag rocket launcher team.
1500 BMP-3s
50 ZSU-23-4 anti-aircraft guns

300 Light Armoured Vehicles(As reconnaisance)

1st to 10th Infantry Division
10000 Infantry in each division
700 BMP-3s
300 LAVs
50 ZSU-23-4 anti-aircraft guns

Partisan Guard(reserve units that can be mobilized within days does not count towards standing army numbers.)
25000000 men, women and children
Armed with AK-47s, RPG-7s, varous mortars, submachine guns, machine guns, etc...etc...

1st Tank Division
60 T-90 main battle tanks
90 T-80 main battle tanks
40 ZSU-23-4 anti-aircraft guns
10 SA-9 "gaskin" SAM launchers

2nd Tank Division
50 T-80s
100 T-72s
40 ZSU-23-4 anti-aircraft guns
10 SA-9 "gaskin" SAM launchers

1st Paratrooper Division
10000 paratroopers, armed with SAIGA style rifles, RPGs, mortars, etc...
40 An-124 CONDOR transport aircraft
300 BMD-3s

1st Air Cavalry
5000 infantry
20 Mi-26 halo
40 Mi-28 havoc
100 Mi-4 Hound
20 Mi-8 Hip-E

1st Artillery Division
30 155mm Field Guns
50 125mm Field Guns
40 210mm Mortars

2nd Artillery Division
50 120mm Field Guns
60 100mm Field Guns
30 200mm Mortars

1st Strategic Missile Division
600 SS-12 Scaleboard rockets
300 FROG-7 rockets
100 SS-21 SCARAB rockets
with 200 launchers

Military Police
10000 MPs
50 Mil Mi-4 'Hound' Choppers
250 BMP-3s

1st engineer division
8000 engineers
40 AMX-30 EBGs
300 bulldozers
50 Cranes
700 Trucks
many various construction vehicles that can be obtained from SC's construction companies.

Logistics
550000 personale
1000 trucks
50 Mi-26 Halo transport helicopters
20 II-76 'Candid' transport aircraft

Medical Support
10000 medical personale
50 Mi-25 Halo Transport Helicopters
15 Field Hospitals
200 BMP-4s

Soviet Canukstan's air force
About 7000 airforce personale

48 MiG-25 Foxbat
48 MiG-31 Foxhound
36 MiG-35 MFI
30 II-76 'Candid' Transport aircraft
24 Su-39 'frog foot'
20 Su-35
5 Tu-160 'Black Jack'
15 Tu-95 'Bear'
7 II-76
55 Mi-28 Havoc
110 Mi-8 Hip-E
205 Mi-26 halo

About 10000 personale in communcations tech
About 5000 in SC command

hope that sounds reasonable please tell me there is anything is wrong.

anyone?

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