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Belem is once again offering top of the line nuclear weapons cheap to the world.

The two weapons that are currently available are:

Pocket Nuke(this is technically a dirty bomb)
Weight: 20-50 pounds.
Maximum Blast range: half mile.
The bomb can be mounted on any type of missile and use any type of detonation device. It will spread radiation over 5 miles.
cost: 2 million dollars.

Suitcase Nuke
Weight: 60-120 pounds.
Maximum Blast Range: five miles
The bomb can be mounted on any type of missile and use any type of detonation device.
cost: 6 million dollars.

NOTE: All bombs sold are fitted with a self destruct device where if the bomb is tampered with in anyway it will self destruct. The bombs are also fitted with a tracking device if they are detected being brought back to Belem they will be self destructed, if the tracking device is tampered with the bomb will self destruct.

Are you mad? Increase your prices to 200 million & 600 million, if they want it that bad they will pay it! Its a sellers market with those.

If they quiry the price say its high because they are easy to conceal!

ooc:- I hope you are not selling it to just anybody?

Im still making a profit at this price.


OOC: pretty much everyone except if I think im going to go to war with them in the near future.

bump for the night

Uhh, Belem, a suitcase nuke doesn't go on a missile, it goes on a suitcase.

Im still making a profit at this price.


OOC: pretty much everyone except if I think im going to go to war with them in the near future.

ooc:- The reason I asked you to increase it was that in the real world it would be high. Frankly I will ignore an attack by anybody who buys one at that low price. And I would hate to see a new nation destroyed because it bought "nukes" of you.

10 suitcase nukes and 5 dirty nukes.

Money will be wired when confirmed.

Somehow, I think that giving you my chem's was a bad idea. A very bad idea which I will regret. Unless, of course, you use them on all those pathetic liberals!

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"We condemm this proliferation of small easily available nuclear weapons. Anyone caught attempting to bring such weapons into the Confederacy without sufficient authorisation will be proscecuted to the fullest extent of the law, including a request for the death sentance to be applied."

Really Belem, after what happened in Roania, did you expect me to support this? As much as I think Raem is a cowardly jerk (sic), I'm beginning to see his point of view.

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lol authorization for suitcase nukes? May I be the first to apply for a pass to bring nukes into the nation of The Ctan??

OOC (Yeah your a godmodding nob Belem)

lol authorization for suitcase nukes? May I be the first to apply for a pass to bring nukes into the nation of The Ctan??

Permission Denied.

Reason, No suitible and demonstratable need.

- Ministry of Defence, Armaments Control.

((OOC: The permission exists so that I can legally import them for govt use.))

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OOC(Why you dying laughing Raems? whats so obscenely funny about the truth :roll: )

Are you going to duct tape a suitcase nuke to a missile?

Belem is once again offering top of the line nuclear weapons cheap to the world.

The two weapons that are currently available are:

Pocket Nuke(this is technically a dirty bomb)
Weight: 20-50 pounds.
Maximum Blast range: half mile.
The bomb can be mounted on any type of missile and use any type of detonation device. It will spread radiation over 5 miles.
cost: 2 million dollars.

Suitcase Nuke
Weight: 60-120 pounds.
Maximum Blast Range: five miles
The bomb can be mounted on any type of missile and use any type of detonation device.
cost: 6 million dollars.

NOTE: All bombs sold are fitted with a self destruct device where if the bomb is tampered with in anyway it will self destruct. The bombs are also fitted with a tracking device if they are detected being brought back to Belem they will be self destructed, if the tracking device is tampered with the bomb will self destruct.

Gahhh!!! One time just isn’t enough, is it? Do you people remember what happened to Quintessential Chaos? Why do you persist in selling bombs that only terrorists would want?

Does Xolistan ring a bell?

"Man, i love this show!"
"Yeah, it`s hilarious what this guy, from Belem, does..."
"Remember last week? When he..."
"Yeah, please, PLEASE STOP! I can`t stop laughing!"

Random dialogue between TV junkies after the latest episode of 'Belem: A hilarious nation'

Wait wait, is Belem a future nation? If so, then its alright, there are MANY weapons in the future that can do worse damage than a nuke...but if hes modern continue laughing.

Wait wait, is Belem a future nation? If so, then its alright, there are MANY weapons in the future that can do worse damage than a nuke...but if hes modern continue laughing.

Belem isn`t modern, Belem isn`t future, Belem is a hilarious TV show about a hilarious nation, monday- friday on ANA!

Uhh, Belem, a suitcase nuke doesn't go on a missile, it goes on a suitcase.

it can be placed in a suitcase, in a bomb or in a missile. suitcase nuke just describes how small it is.

10 suitcase nukes and 5 dirty nukes.

Money will be wired when confirmed.

order is confirmed and nukes are being prepared to ship.

Ill take 500 for "nuclifying" some cruise missiles for use against whales.

Ill take 500 for "nuclifying" some cruise missiles for use against whales.

nukes are being sent.

ooc: ok belem, how about you take notice to that unwritten rule that loosely says nations that have not been around for almost a month cannot make, buy or sell nukes, cuz you just sold nukes to a nation only 3 days old. and i can only see a dumb newb war coming, with such intelegent and strategic actions as "fivety-kajillion s00tcase n00ks from belem have attached to a majic un-shootdownable missile, and it has been launched at you. all yer ppls dies. i W1n!. tHAnx Belm!"

well they can afford the nukes. So they can buy and use them if they want.

Now if they say they used 500 suitcases nukes in a thread all from me and i only sold them 2 ill point that out in the thread if I happen to read it.

OOC (Yeah your a godmodding nob Belem)

explain how please.

With the know how you can make a nuclear weapon in your backyard that will be able the size of a suitcase. The hardest part is getting the Uranium or the Plutonium.

Belem is once again offering top of the line nuclear weapons cheap to the world.

The two weapons that are currently available are:

Pocket Nuke(this is technically a dirty bomb)
Weight: 20-50 pounds.
Maximum Blast range: half mile.
The bomb can be mounted on any type of missile and use any type of detonation device. It will spread radiation over 5 miles.
cost: 2 million dollars.

Suitcase Nuke
Weight: 60-120 pounds.
Maximum Blast Range: five miles
The bomb can be mounted on any type of missile and use any type of detonation device.
cost: 6 million dollars.

NOTE: All bombs sold are fitted with a self destruct device where if the bomb is tampered with in anyway it will self destruct. The bombs are also fitted with a tracking device if they are detected being brought back to Belem they will be self destructed, if the tracking device is tampered with the bomb will self destruct.

Gahhh!!! One time just isn’t enough, is it? Do you people remember what happened to Quintessential Chaos? Why do you persist in selling bombs that only terrorists would want?

Does Xolistan ring a bell?

xolistan is the country that got invaded and I sent a battlefleet in to destroy the invasion.

Belem is once again offering top of the line nuclear weapons cheap to the world.

The two weapons that are currently available are:

Pocket Nuke(this is technically a dirty bomb)
Weight: 20-50 pounds.
Maximum Blast range: half mile.
The bomb can be mounted on any type of missile and use any type of detonation device. It will spread radiation over 5 miles.
cost: 2 million dollars.

Suitcase Nuke
Weight: 60-120 pounds.
Maximum Blast Range: five miles
The bomb can be mounted on any type of missile and use any type of detonation device.
cost: 6 million dollars.

NOTE: All bombs sold are fitted with a self destruct device where if the bomb is tampered with in anyway it will self destruct. The bombs are also fitted with a tracking device if they are detected being brought back to Belem they will be self destructed, if the tracking device is tampered with the bomb will self destruct.

Gahhh!!! One time just isn’t enough, is it? Do you people remember what happened to Quintessential Chaos? Why do you persist in selling bombs that only terrorists would want?

Does Xolistan ring a bell?

xolistan is the country that got invaded and I sent a battlefleet in to destroy the invasion.

Attacking Belem will bring the NCA and the domiinon down onto your asses.


PS:
God damn it jyst remembered I was payed to stop nuking whales.

dp

OK, I hate to say this, but if you attack Belem for these reasons I will have to defend him.

Its part of my own unwritten mantra that I will defend nations against having other nations will imposed on them forcibly, unless that nations actions are deeply dump, and the nations leader is beyond all hope.

I hate doing it, but I have to.

*begins beating head on his desk*

Belem is once again offering top of the line nuclear weapons cheap to the world.

The two weapons that are currently available are:

Pocket Nuke(this is technically a dirty bomb)
Weight: 20-50 pounds.
Maximum Blast range: half mile.
The bomb can be mounted on any type of missile and use any type of detonation device. It will spread radiation over 5 miles.
cost: 2 million dollars.

Suitcase Nuke
Weight: 60-120 pounds.
Maximum Blast Range: five miles
The bomb can be mounted on any type of missile and use any type of detonation device.
cost: 6 million dollars.

NOTE: All bombs sold are fitted with a self destruct device where if the bomb is tampered with in anyway it will self destruct. The bombs are also fitted with a tracking device if they are detected being brought back to Belem they will be self destructed, if the tracking device is tampered with the bomb will self destruct.

Gahhh!!! One time just isn’t enough, is it? Do you people remember what happened to Quintessential Chaos? Why do you persist in selling bombs that only terrorists would want?

Does Xolistan ring a bell?

xolistan is the country that got invaded and I sent a battlefleet in to destroy the invasion.

Yeh... you defended him after he NUKED Quintessential Chaos's capital, and two nations began a coalition against him. Then he started a new thread, then space nations and huge nations defended him after what he did.

GOD? DO YOU LEARN? OR ARE YOU PROUD TO HAVE EFFECTIVELY AIDED A TERRORIST NATION? I, FRANKLY DON'T GIVE A S*** IF IT'S A NICE, PEACEFUL AND BENEVOLENT NATION, THE GODDARN NEWBS HAVE GOT TO LIVE WITHOUT NUKES!!!!

Not too long ago, you posted a war with Zaibock. You claimed he made acts of terror against your nation. We decided to remain neutral, and you accused us of harboring a rogue, terrorist nation. Um... considering that you sold a NUKE to Xolistan, I will say that, ya just can't say that after whatcha did. Now, is there any question why we mightn't have helped you?

right I sold him a nuke...

Well once it leaves my hands I am no longer liable or resopnsible for it.

right I sold him a nuke...

Well once it leaves my hands I am no longer liable or resopnsible for it.

WHATT?????

YOU SOLD A FRIGGIN' FIVE MILLION POPULATION NATION A NUKE. OR MORE!!! NO LONGER LIABLE? HE SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND HE WOULDN'T HAVE, IF YOU HADN'T SOLD IT TO HIM!!!!!!!!!!

NOT LIABLE? WHY WOULD ANY NATION WANT A NUKE? OTHER THAN a.) TO ENSURE "MUTUAL" DESTRUCTION, OR b.) TO USE IT.

A 20-50 pound nuke that has a half mile blast radius, and how exactly can you claim you are making a profit? :roll:

I'll take 10,000 of each just to bankrupt whatever industry is making these. :lol:

A 20-50 pound nuke that has a half mile blast radius, and how exactly can you claim you are making a profit? :roll:

its a dirty bomb its not fission.

I heard on the news that a dirty bomb that is more explosive then actual uranium/plutonium can take out 10 city blocks in the blast basically which is about half a mile.

right I sold him a nuke...

Well once it leaves my hands I am no longer liable or resopnsible for it.

WHATT?????

YOU SOLD A FRIGGIN' FIVE MILLION POPULATION NATION A NUKE. OR MORE!!! NO LONGER LIABLE? HE SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND HE WOULDN'T HAVE, IF YOU HADN'T SOLD IT TO HIM!!!!!!!!!!

well he could afford it so he can have it.

Didja know a softball-sized piece of uranium in a nuke can destroy a 500,000-1 million population city?

right I sold him a nuke...

Well once it leaves my hands I am no longer liable or resopnsible for it.

WHATT?????

YOU SOLD A FRIGGIN' FIVE MILLION POPULATION NATION A NUKE. OR MORE!!! NO LONGER LIABLE? HE SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND HE WOULDN'T HAVE, IF YOU HADN'T SOLD IT TO HIM!!!!!!!!!!

well he could afford it so he can have it.

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But for lower yield bombs the explosive plays a key role in it.

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But I had extras.

So sorry to hear that you had extras, but mightn't it have been wiser to have waited till a larger nation came along?

I mean, I have nothing against you selling nukes. I could care less if you were selling some killer star... blowing... up thing. Just so long as you sold it to a nation that would place utmost care, and responsibility in using it.

Little nations are rabidly known for violation the "nukes as a last resort" "rule."

That nuke was Xolistan's preimier line of offense.

To be granted the ability to harbor nuclear power in an offensive manner is something that should be kept sacred. It shouldn't be given to nations who would use it haphazardly just to get a tick mark ahead of a rival.

thats how Xolistan wanted to use it. Once its no longer in Belem's hand its Xolistans job to use it responibly.

That is absolutely true. You could not have anticipated his irresponsible usage of the nuke. True to your word, it was his responsibility.

But to the point, IT HAPPENED. Xolistan did what you did not anticipate, and here you are again, selling nukes affordable to minute-old nations.

"He who forgets history is doomed to repeat it."
----------------------I dunno who said it, but it's true.

but what Xolistan did did nto effect Belem and I have never stopped the sale of nukes to those who asked for it.

We want a nuke, we dont have ones that can be on missiles. the cheap 2m one.

People need to stop bitching about prices. NS is so flooded with nukes and stealth aircraft for sale that they could be sold at about 25% of their RL price.

We want a nuke, we dont have ones that can be on missiles. the cheap 2m one.

nuke is sent.

Now that's just wrong.

It doesn't matter who it did or didn't affect, what matters is that a city and several thousand innocents died. How the hell doesn't that affect Belem?

This is like stating, "North Korea sold Al Qaeda a nuclear device. This action did not affect N. Korea."

Umm... sorry, but no. North Korea'd have NATO on their butts in an hour.

I'm no NATO, but did you see how many negative replies you got to this post? How many nations now distrust you for your actions that (more importantly) you haven't learned from? It has affected you.

A 20-50 pound nuke that has a half mile blast radius, and how exactly can you claim you are making a profit? :roll:

its a dirty bomb its not fission.

I heard on the news that a dirty bomb that is more explosive then actual uranium/plutonium can take out 10 city blocks in the blast basically which is about half a mile.

You're talking about the spread of radation, if you want one that can actually explode a 1/2 mile radius you need to use a bunch of technologies to make the bomb. Most of them are very high tech because you're dealing with a very small amount of plutonium and you need to have them all be protected by radiation, or they will just explode randomly in the factories and such. You can do more damage and have one much cheaper by just taking those rods they put in people's head to cure cancer and leaving them out in the open.

A dirty bomb of this sort would cost at least double what you are charging, it could reach up to 100x more than that though.

It doesnt effect Belem because it wasn't Belem or one its allies that was bombed it was a random country that is not binded by any agreements or alliances to Belem.

Well the difference in that scenario is that N.K. would be selling those nukes fpr the purpose of using them in terrorist attacks. Belem sells the nukes for the profit not to see their use.

Nations always distrusted me because of my actions but distrust means nothing its action that counts.

A 20-50 pound nuke that has a half mile blast radius, and how exactly can you claim you are making a profit? :roll:

its a dirty bomb its not fission.

I heard on the news that a dirty bomb that is more explosive then actual uranium/plutonium can take out 10 city blocks in the blast basically which is about half a mile.

You're talking about the spread of radation, if you want one that can actually explode a 1/2 mile radius you need to use a bunch of technologies to make the bomb. Most of them are very high tech because you're dealing with a very small amount of plutonium and you need to have them all be protected by radiation, or they will just explode randomly in the factories and such. You can do more damage and have one much cheaper by just taking those rods they put in people's head to cure cancer and leaving them out in the open.

A dirty bomb of this sort would cost at least double what you are charging, it could reach up to 100x more than that though.

ill check on that. i remember the news saying something about 10 block blast and a mile to 5 miles of radiation.

It doesn't affect Belem directly.

Just imagine... what if it had been The SLAGlands that was attacked by Xolistan. Or, what if it had been Sniper Country? Surely, they would not have been so keen to defend Xolistan.

What if it had been a nation twice your size at the time?

Or three times?

I assure you, there were some then.

What if it had even been you?

Would you then be so light with the events? Because there's no way in hell those nations would allow you to see the light of another day. And were you attacked, would you be so light hearted?

Thank you Belem, you have finnaly released me from having to defend your sorry hide. Have at it.

Anybody for a lynch mob? Keep storming? other?

*ligths a torch and begins throwing rocks*

Thank you for sending it. My scientists will make sure to figure out how the scanner works, and how to manipulate them.

OOC:Yes, i know you said they would blow up with tampering.

Well all my bombs are tracked to make sure non are returned to Belem.


Well they werent attacked and if they were I wouldnt of helped Xolistan in the end I would of sit back and watched the fireworks.


And they wouldnt of attacked me because the seller is never attacked. Also attacking me would of brought about a long drawn out conflict with large alliances on both sides and a outcome that would of been unbenefitial to bothsides which would of course ended in a full nuclear strike if I started losing ground on my homesoil.

Thank you for sending it. My scientists will make sure to figure out how the scanner works, and how to manipulate them.

OOC:Yes, i know you said they would blow up with tampering.

you can try to toy with it. theres about a 95% chance the thing will detonate if you attempt to tamper with it.

no, theres a 95% chance if someone equal to you did. Seeing as it was made by an april nation, Im pretty sure I can figure out a way with my more, advanced scientists.

scientists are scientists. doesnt matter the age of the nation. Its a modern tech weapon and the scientists have to look at it as a modern tech weapon.

yes, of course. However, a nation like america would probably have an easier time dealing with nuclear physics then say pakistan(not that america is an older nation, i doubt that, but age measures power for the most part in ns).

Its basically just a GPS system the power is just amped up basically, so theres nothing to really tamper with.

The Problem is its placed close to the actual bomb systems itself so getting that deep in without self destruction is hard also.

Our scientists just figured they would completely de-activate the nuke, as that wasnt very hard. The rest was easy. Simply, blatantly, we were attempting to figure out a way to set these off remotly. Not that we have any, err, real reason too...

actually deactivating the nuke by any means other then just removing the arming key would probably set it off. Probably a way around the system though.

But if you want to to detonate our nuclear stocks no nukes that are meant to stay in Belem have tracking devices or self destruct devices installed on them.

These types are made up specially for sale.

Of course, however, you must manufacture the export nukes somewhere, and that would be plenty for us...especially since you probably couldnt pin-point us other than this conversation, which really has no barring, as I could be doing this to scare you. However, my scientists have dis-armed the actual war-head, so that it cannot explode(the scanner isnt even in the bomb now). We have made sure to have skill in dis-arming nuclear weapons, as we have no worry from nuclear missiles, and really, only a nuclear bomber could get us, if point blank defense doesnt take out the bomber(unlikely).

right I sold him a nuke...

Well once it leaves my hands I am no longer liable or resopnsible for it.

WHATT?????

YOU SOLD A FRIGGIN' FIVE MILLION POPULATION NATION A NUKE. OR MORE!!! NO LONGER LIABLE? HE SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND HE WOULDN'T HAVE, IF YOU HADN'T SOLD IT TO HIM!!!!!!!!!!

NOT LIABLE? WHY WOULD ANY NATION WANT A NUKE? OTHER THAN a.) TO ENSURE "MUTUAL" DESTRUCTION, OR b.) TO USE IT.

((I can't believe I gave Belem manufacturing rights to Tabun and Sarin. As for Rotan... damn my gullibility.))

:twisted: i would like 2000 suitcase nukes *money wired* :twisted:

OOC(Belems a stupid nonce if he thinks nuking everyone into line is the way to go I remember a nation called Zaibock that was unfairly picked on I read the threads and Belem was being such a GODMODDING NOBHEAD)

right I sold him a nuke...

Well once it leaves my hands I am no longer liable or resopnsible for it.

WHATT?????

YOU SOLD A FRIGGIN' FIVE MILLION POPULATION NATION A NUKE. OR MORE!!! NO LONGER LIABLE? HE SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND HE WOULDN'T HAVE, IF YOU HADN'T SOLD IT TO HIM!!!!!!!!!!

NOT LIABLE? WHY WOULD ANY NATION WANT A NUKE? OTHER THAN a.) TO ENSURE "MUTUAL" DESTRUCTION, OR b.) TO USE IT.

((I can't believe I gave Belem manufacturing rights to Tabun and Sarin. As for Rotan... damn my gullibility.))

I dont sell chemical and bio weapons because I cant track them.

Of course, however, you must manufacture the export nukes somewhere, and that would be plenty for us...especially since you probably couldnt pin-point us other than this conversation, which really has no barring, as I could be doing this to scare you. However, my scientists have dis-armed the actual war-head, so that it cannot explode(the scanner isnt even in the bomb now). We have made sure to have skill in dis-arming nuclear weapons, as we have no worry from nuclear missiles, and really, only a nuclear bomber could get us, if point blank defense doesnt take out the bomber(unlikely).

Well the trackers are activated remotely once they leave the country they are activated. if its detected that they are being tracked by a different source the current trackers will be scrapped and new models installed in al new productions.

:twisted: i would like 2000 suitcase nukes *money wired* :twisted:

nukes are being sent

OOC(Belems a stupid nonce if he thinks nuking everyone into line is the way to go I remember a nation called Zaibock that was unfairly picked on I read the threads and Belem was being such a GODMODDING NOBHEAD)


Zaibock threatened to nuke me first so I decided to call his bluff and launch first.

OOC(Erm but in all accounts it was you who had a gulity conscience about some dirty dealings you did who thought you'd gang up on a weaker nation thats lame and underhanded Belem and as for your nuke program thats a load of bulls*** your not old enough to be screwing around with tech that makes your scientists look like kindergarden reprobates) :roll:

zaibock blockaded me after he tried to launch a spec ops raid against my country after the bomb was already sent.


and my technology is completely feasible. If it wasn't for a U.N. ban on satellite launched weapons the U.S. would have satelite nuclear weapons.

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:twisted: i would like 250 pocket bombs plz money wired :twisted:

pocket nukes sent

OOC:
Chellis, I find it a bit funny that you ignore me but not Belem. More than a bit funny, actually, since extortion was his idea.