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After long years of development the Agrigentian Air Force (AAF) has just released information following a public demonstration of the Drago 3000 Air Superiority Fighter Aircraft.

The Aircraft incorporates state of the art avionics and sensor equipment. It can out fly and out perform the EF 2000 Typhoon and is better armed than the F/A-22 Raptor and its low radar signature gives it an advantage against Su-37s.

It incorporates a limited number RAM ceramics surfaces. The curves on crucial surfaces and edges, which lessens the need for RAM. For example, new ceramic-matrix RAM is utilized on the engine exhaust nozzles to reduce radar and IR signatures, and a greater amount of wide-band structural RAM is used on the wing edges.

Specifications:

Propulsion: two FIAT C309 engines with thrust vectoring nozzles
Thrust: 38,000 lbs
Length: 62.08 feet, 18.90 meters
Height: 16.67 feet, 5.08 meters
Wingspan: 36 feet
Ceiling: 60,000 ft approx.
Speed: Mach 2.5 (supercruise: Mach 2)
Crew: two
Armament: · two AIM-132 Advanced Short-Range Air-to-Air Missiles (ASRAAM)
· six AIM-120C Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM)
· twin 20mm Gatling gun
· three 1,000-pound Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM)

http://www.angelfire.com/ill/agrigento/Altasmall4.bmp

http://www.angelfire.com/ill/agrigento/Weaponssystems.bmp

$98 million

Please post any questions, comments, or accusations.

Tight.

Tight.

hehe, thanks

I like! I'll Buy 1 Thousand when they come out!

I like! I'll Buy 1 Thousand when they come out!

That is a pretty big order, heres a warning, when these things do come out they are going to cost a lot.

Then maybe 500 :wink:
I like them! :D :?

Well I am going for the night, please post any criticisms or congratulations while I am away.

You're the first person I've seen use Italian engines. What's the projected cost?

Kudos for Agrigento.

While many n00bs build fleets of several kilometer long uber-space-warships, Agrigento here has done something reasonable.

Agrigento, glad to see someone doing it right.

-The Cardboard Avenger

You're the first person I've seen use Italian engines. What's the projected cost?

I'm not sure yet, still working it out at the moment. Been really busy lately.

Kudos for Agrigento.

While many n00bs build fleets of several kilometer long uber-space-warships, Agrigento here has done something reasonable.

Agrigento, glad to see someone doing it right.

-The Cardboard Avenger

Thanks a lot. :)

damm hot plane
paint skills
but itd be kooler if u DREW it
still, its sexy

not bad at all mike

there will be a discount to your alliance members? right???

Of course, but your pilots will probably be too drunk to fly right :wink: .

:lol: hahaha thats a good one mike atleast my pilots hands wont be slipping off the controls :wink:

Now that I have some time I am going to get to work on costs, as well as some more specifics.

What do you guys think will be a reasonable price, I have some ideas, and I just wanted something to compare with.

compare how much you needed to develop it, compare how much all the components and avionix costs, to how much you want a profit. Of course, if your economy is like ours, (shit), then you might want to up the price. But we'd say that for an advanced capability fighter, from around 90 to 200 million would be a reasonable price range.

Wait a second.. how could those tiny holes possibly be vulcan cannons? Vulcan cannosn have like 8 barrels, dude.

Well it beats the shit out of Walmington's latest aviation effort :)

Personally I'd worry about having a modern-age air superiority fighter with no long range missiles, but it looks pretty and does..good stuff.

I should certainly be more awake before commenting on things, eh?


And Melkor- don't they only fire from one at a time? why would the rest need to be exposed? surely only the bottom one need be?

Wait a second.. how could those tiny holes possibly be vulcan cannons? Vulcan cannons have like 8 barrels, dude.

-double post-

Wait a second.. how could those tiny holes possibly be vulcan cannons? Vulcan cannons have like 8 barrels, dude.

They are interior dude, just like the M61 Vulcan gun on the F-22!

Believe me, I spent quite some time researching this.

Nice plane! From the information you've given us, I'd give it a 9 out of 10. 8)

Maintenance must be insane on something like that. :?

Nice plane! From the information you've given us, I'd give it a 9 out of 10. 8)

Thanks :)

Maintenance must be insane on something like that. :?

About the same as the F-22.

(*reminds self to contact Agrigento while designing MPAF-10 "Cobra" and -11 "Peregrine"* (Yes, I think the "Derby" will be the last Iansislean flyer with a horse-esque name - I'm running short of ideas :) )

Awesome looking planes, dude. Sorry about not responding to this earlier. Um, I would ask you some technical questions, but I don't know enough about next generation aviation to not sound like an idiot :oops: )

Wait a second.. how could those tiny holes possibly be vulcan cannons? Vulcan cannons have like 8 barrels, dude.
6, actually.

"dude"

(*reminds self to contact Agrigento while designing MPAF-10 "Cobra" and -11 "Peregrine"* (Yes, I think the "Derby" will be the last Iansislean flyer with a horse-esque name - I'm running short of ideas :) )

Awesome looking planes, dude. Sorry about not responding to this earlier. Um, I would ask you some technical questions, but I don't know enough about next generation aviation to not sound like an idiot :oops: )

Its okay, thanks.

Now that I have some time I am going to get to work on costs, as well as some more specifics.

What is your projected production? In short, the more the cheaper.

The Aircraft is now for sale!!

Wait a second.. how could those tiny holes possibly be vulcan cannons? Vulcan cannons have like 8 barrels, dude.

But only one fires at a time, and they all rotate so they all fire at the same place so you only need one hole and modern tech is so nice the 20mm shell only needs a hole 21mm wide to come out....
Dude

That's what I said! I hope!

Yeah, I did. Woo.

Er.

Well it seemed for a moment like a great achievement.

Look at the pretty plane, people. It's all Italian and s..tuff. Classy.


(I thought promotion might make up for cluttering the thread :) )

So NICE......

*Drools*

But theres a problem....

It's got a tail....

I'm making one myself that doesn't have a tail....

Go look....

Here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71076)....

But it's not for sale so Agrigentos sales are safe....

No offense meant here cause that is a SWEEEEETASS fighter...

BUT

All these people that create"super" fighters with added weapons etc, etc and charge 100M and over...

These things don't have much adnantage if any over a conventional F-16, F-18, and definitely still don't out range the F-14.

The extra price isn't worth it.

That said though, I like initiative and your design is excellent.

I'll take 10 for experimental purposes when they come out.

Okay, well those 10 are ready for delivery.

They are to act as a replacement for my F-22's and F-15's

um googlewoop, responding to your stuff about that plane getting whooped by the F16, F15, F22, i dont think that would happen.
For starters, the Drago is significantly more maneuverable despite its speed, as canards increase its ability to pull tight turns, loops, rolls and such substantially. Its range is better than an F15, F14, and such, especially since that thing has wargamed my F22 air division and won, if by a close margin. Since the F22 can defeat the various other F-types mentioned above, and it is defeated by the Drago, logic dictates that the Drago should be able to prevail against F15s, F16s, and F14s. The armament, sensors, and engines are also superior, and being of an Italian design, it is doubtless heir to a rich aeronautical tradition, one that has nevertheless been overlooked.

So yes, they are capable of defeating the planes you mentioned above.

I would like to order 300 of these.

OOC: Don't forget to look at my AF-100s

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70980

I would like to order 300 of these.

Very well, assuming the money is sent, delivery will commence.

OOC: Don't forget to look at my AF-100s

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70980

Back you foul-hijacking-beast!!

The money has been wired.