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03-12-2003, 21:35

Commander Bates yelled in disbelief when he heard the news. "WHAT?!"

"As I've said sir, one of our blimps at the blockade has been taken over by the WCA."

"Blast, I thought we finished them during the civil war!"

"It appears not sir, the nations holding the blockade are preparing to attack our air convoy sir."

"Dammit, tell them that its only the Pinafore thats become disaffective. Our planes and the other blimp mean them no threat."

Just then a young office clerk came running waving a telegraph, his face was quite pale. "Sir! Sir!"

"Yes? What is it man?"

"Sir fighting has broken out at the blockade!"

"WHAT?"

"The WCA held blimp opened fire on the blockade ships, who in return opened fire on the other blimp and our planes sir."

"Curse that WCA! Great they've just started another 'hot' war in the Dra-pol region! Is there anything else?"

"The Regent's wanting an answer, what do I tell him?"

"Tell I'll explain everything to him at 1830 hours."

Ryansisle

03-12-2003, 23:14

]RIS Glorioso
Steaming North-East; East China Sea

Tsushima Strait, thought Captain Don Eduardo Salazar as his heavy cruiser chugged along at an even twenty four knots. Don Eduardo liked to think himself an avid student of naval history, and he paused to think of Rear Admiral Rozhdestvenski, on his epic 18,000 mile voyage to disaster.

...

Leaving a smoke trail several miles long, Glorioso made to slip from the East China Sea to the Sea of Japan, her captain praying every step of the way that the imperialists wouldn’t make too much trouble over a simple diplomatic mission.

(Yeah, I can see how that was really easy to miss. :roll: As I've also stated, this is just a diplomatic mission; they're carrying nothing heavier than a diplomatic team and some monetary gifts. A deep-water harbor isn't really needed, as they can just put that ashore using motor-launches, then continue to Pusan, Vladiviostok, or any of the many other neutral ports on the Sea of Japan for repairs.)

Dra-pol

04-12-2003, 03:01

With the discovery of explosive devices in Pyongyang (as described by HBF himself) an evacuation of vital personnel -engineers, researchers, military officers- was hurridly effected.

As Red Bamboo and Banat specialists combed the base for further devices, the surrounding countryside began to crawl with militiamen. These were the manner of 'warriors' involved in much of the fighting during the Three Day War- poorly trained in military proceedure, but intimately familiar with the terrain, fiercly determined to defend their ancient homeland, and generally good shots owing to their rural upbringing (hunting and pest control being carried out with Type-99 rifles). Being in the south west, they were also amongst the best fed and cared for, residing as they do relatively close to the foreign aid stations permitted and regulated by DaKhiem.

The explosions in Pyongyang claim a handfull of special forces and low ranking elements involved in the search and further rebuilding, but the following gas kills dozens more civilians, and the first squads of infantry who hurridly return from the outlying areas after the initial blasts.

Though aware of the presence of booby-traps, DaKhiem had not expected an attack on such a scale. The Central Directorature urges increased progress in works around Hamhung, while doing its best (which proves certainly good enough) to keep news of the Pyongyang attack from reaching agents working in and around Hamhung- they do not want hastey retribution to endanger grander projects. A handful of trusted senior Banat officers at informed, lest Quinntonian news agencies in the city report on the attack and cause a premature uprising.

The first Interior Pilot Tunnels broke through to their big brothers the night following the Pyongyang incident, and plastic pipes began to be laid along the smallest primary shafts, while flooring in the larger tunnels began to be upgraded.

_Taiwan

04-12-2003, 03:52

With the first batch of aviation fuel arriving in Shanghai, the crates are sold to yet another company and repackaged as Soy Sauce. The next destination: China's border with Dra-pol.

04-12-2003, 05:16

The constant amount of work going around the DMZ had aroused the suspicions of the South Dalanian Intelligence Ministry. Irked by a number of false-positives from the sensors around the zone and by reports from the army, the ministry had dispatched several surveillance teams to the border.

Sitting in unmarked vans close to the border, SDIM agents monitored the border via infared and CCTV cameras. They'd apprehended the usual number of smugglers and Communist sympathizers who had tried to cross the demarcation line, but any sign of activity from the Dra-pol side had yet to be seen.

04-12-2003, 06:37

(Yeah, I can see how that was really easy to miss. :roll: As I've also stated, this is just a diplomatic mission; they're carrying nothing heavier than a diplomatic team and some monetary gifts. A deep-water harbor isn't really needed, as they can just put that ashore using motor-launches, then continue to Pusan, Vladiviostok, or any of the many other neutral ports on the Sea of Japan for repairs.)

along the patrol route south of hamhung, the Stuart (Arleigh Burke class DDG) spots the Glorioso

Capt, Bridge sir. The two vessels we were informed of are on the horizon. At present course and speed they will pass us to starboard at a range of no more than 2 miles.

Very well. Inform plot to signal the vessels with the lamps and notify them of our course and speed so as to avoid collision. No other comms are necessary unless they wish to talk. If it looks as if they will pass within one mile range, notify me and order the non-watch standers to the starboard rail to render honors to their colors as they pass close aboard

04-12-2003, 06:43

As the brisk rain came down in the dark night, the shadow moved ever so slighty on the northern side of the DMZ. Despite the poncho the stockiness of the man was obvious at close range and even if you couldn't make out the small crucifix tatoo, the flat expression in his eyes would be impossible to miss.

where are they? he wondered to himself

_Taiwan

04-12-2003, 07:56

04-12-2003, 08:08

OOC: If you're referring to the guys who got arrested, they're simply South Dalanians who tried to get into Dra-pol. I didn't want to RP for anyone else simply because I want to avoid any form of godmodding, but if you'd like to try smuggling through the DMZ, go ahead. It could make an interesting RP...especially since military orders expressly forbid anyone crossing the DMZ.

Virgin Atlantic

04-12-2003, 08:17

OOC: This is the DMZ between China and Dra-pol?

04-12-2003, 08:20

OOC: No, the DMZ is the border between South Dalania and Dra-pol. In real life, this is the border dividing the Korean peninsula...Dra-pol is playing as North Korea, I'm playing as the South.

Virgin Atlantic

04-12-2003, 08:21

OOC: Wrong account.

Dra-pol

05-12-2003, 08:31

Hungnam, Quinntonian Dra-pol

In the harbour district attached to Hamhung, CPRD loyalists grew in number. Conversion back from the ways of the Christian capitalists was merely a secondary cause to this trend. The main source was the CPRD itself. Across the entire city infiltrators were slipping into the general population after surfacing from tunnels opening into loyalist basements. Arms caches were being stocked, and propaganda was on the increase.

Loyalists kept well clear of certain areas. Central and western industrial or military centres saw no communist increase, while the eastern coastal area far from the epicentre of the tunneling virtually swarmed with new faces, many Banat, all doing their best to melt into the crowds.

Further west, pipes surfaced in basements on narrow streets, and others were directed on towards sewers. Still other basements were suddenly packed with tons of high explosives- there were generally found as isolated outposts in areas of dense Christian population, or close to industrial or military sites. More of such sites were increasingly under-written by tunnels that did not surface, but were non-the less filled as those described basements.

If the British could do it eighty years ago in middle of enemy lines, the Drapoel certainly had no trouble doing it under their own nation to-day.

If the situation around Pyongyang and in the skies over the republic did not quickly change in DaKhiem's favour, Pyongyang would be avenged in sufficient fashion as to rob the late Kurosian of his "Butcher of Hamhung" tag. It was a shame, mused Hotan, that the republic's nuclear programme was still so poorly advanced. The Crusaders would non-the-less regret their decision to mimic Dra-pol's infamously brutal fashion of waring.

_Taiwan

05-12-2003, 09:58

The first shipment of aviation fuel has arrived safely in Dra-pol. More shipments will follow along the land-route from China disguised using shell companies.

(Note: This is Chung-Kuo's actions, not the Taiwanese government's. If they found out.....)

Dra-pol

05-12-2003, 10:11

Not to worry- Banat agents are authorised (as if they need to be) to ..handle any suspicion surrounding the 'various' imports covering Chung-Kuo's actions.
The abduction rate will probably be up in China along the import routes.

African Commonwealth

05-12-2003, 12:50

in the bright and early noon, Skycranes(apparently carrying medical supplies, judging by the red crosses on their containers) take off from Kinshasa. Aircraft officials say they headed due northeast, and are expected to leave their cargo with the armoured Commonwealth supply train from behind the Chinese border to Kanggye.

In fact(although noone will know this but the beleaguered Dra-poelians), the cargo is as follows:

One container full of tubes, casing plate and some welding torches, handles and chambering for 5.56 rounds, along with other bits needed for the speedier construction and proliferation of automatic weapons in the People's Army.

One entire container full of 5.56 ammonition(It's the round of choice for the RAC, and as such the Commonwealth seemingly has a lot to spare).

One container with the rest from the African food silos, mostly beans, water chestnuts, preserved jungle fruit and some canned ox and veal.

One container with arms, containing mostly surplus ADI-I3 Fragmentation grenades, some ADI-I15 9mm pistols and about 20 crates of explosive satchel charges(some C4, most of them outdated TNT bundles with timing mechanism... All very deadly if put to good use.).

Some time later, a heavily encrypted telegram reaches the Kanggye Banat: ((General Ndelebe sends his regards. This might be the last supplies we can send you for a while. As you might know, we are beginning to get in trouble with our neighbour. Good luck.))

OOC:
It should be in Kanggye in about a days time of play.

Promise of Joshua

05-12-2003, 13:47

The embassey official knew what awaited him back home if he got caught and sent home. The crate in the back of the wagon was as heavy on his heart as it was on the tires of the truck. As they slowed down the rain seemed to slacken up so they could just make out the recent gaps in the wire. Had to do it this way else the border guards might be a little angry about smuggling something like this across the DMZ. His biggest surprise was that the gaps were in a small canal that had not flooded in this rain. "The other party must have done their job" he mused as the stocky dark figures approached and he and his driver made their way back to the mules left farther back from the wire and the bycyles currently being unloaded from them. Everyone here that knew him knew (or thought) he was a cyclist so this was perfect. He could be home and warm shortly.

05-12-2003, 14:06

05-12-2003, 14:09

05-12-2003, 14:23

*************Baseball News Network************************

We are live at the San Francisco naval yard where the battleship "Giants" has already been seen in the bay making it way towards its home berth. The ship completes the single longest naval deployment in our nation's history as it was one of the first to arrive in Dra-pol waters. The 6 escort ships of the task force returning with the "Giants" are due to make port sometime this afternoon. This is a glorious day and a very happy one from the crew of this fine ship.

In other developments:

as you can see across the bay, the berths of the converted POJ Nimitz class CVN's Rahab and Jordan are empty. We purchased these vessels from the POJ navy back during height of the terror attacks on that nation. We are told that these refitted and equipped vessels put to sea this morning with a full Carrier Battle Group escort force to join the naval forces already in the Dra-pol theatre of operations. We are told by our sources within Father Overstreet's office that this deployment was necessary to alter the force mix to adapt to the changing realities of the situation. What wasn't commented on was the fact that these vessels will apparently be on a course to Dra-pol through the waters near SteamEarth. As you know, that is like going from Florida to California via New York. the offical response, as we said, was "no comment" Undisclosed other military assets were also deployed. This would bring the total number of deployed carriers to 14.

An unconfirmed rumor that an SSBN was also dispatched to the waters off Steamearth remain neither confirmed or denied.

05-12-2003, 14:27

05-12-2003, 14:34

as the wagon was moved into the treeline, the stocky men seemed to almost disappear into the surrounding jungle and the water flow through the canal resumed full force seemingly on its own.

As the dawn brightened, yet another farm wagon made its lazy way north in dra-pol with nothing outwardly noticeable except for maybe an inordinate amount of flickering shadows in the jungle nearby.

Quinntonia

05-12-2003, 20:03

OOC- OK Dra-pol, really, I have posted time and again that we are employing high technology on containing the Dra-pol threat. The British used listsening posts to deter tunneling during sieges as early as 800 AD. You can be sure that Quinntonina Dra-pol, espeacially the Westgaard line is riddled with geographic and siesmic listening and sesnory equiptment. Also, the bunkler complexes you would have to dig under, besides being 4 km. wide are an average depth of 50 feet. In some places three times that. I was assuming that you would be posting more about the diffculties passing the assumed defenses. This was mostly my fault as you posted once before and I did not respond to your movements well within my territory. But, I was in the middle of a cross country move and was posting sporatically.
Possible responses- 1)pumping tear or other dangerous but non-life threatening gasses into the tunnels as we have been monitering them all this time.
2) The whole thing is a huge conspiracy caused by the guerilla rebel force in Dra-pol, DLF and the explosives, etc. are being shipped into pre-determined safe houses to drain your war effort of much needed resources.
3) A masterfully planned and beautifellu executed series of raids by Quinntonian military shuts down the tunnel complex and captures the supplies in a media effort to show that we are in control of the situation.

WWJD
Amen.

Quinntonian Dra-pol

05-12-2003, 20:17

OOC- OK, It is high time a few things got cleared up. I know you have all gotten involved becuase Dra-pol has asked for your help against the "evil western fanatical Christain imperialists" or some5thing to that effect. You should know that a few hundred million Dra-pol citezens would like nothing more than us to stay and protect them from their own government. I have posted an outline of the conflict so far, I ask only that you read it and think it all over. I know most of you whave not read the thread, so this is the next best thing.
http://nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=87901&highlight=
WWJD
Amen.

Quinntonian Dra-pol

05-12-2003, 22:41

Here is some of the military strength that is in Quintonian Dra-pol. I will post only my apperent strength and will ask if those allies that have placed troops under my command if they will allow me to post their strength or they may do it themselves.
(Sorry about not getting to this earlier)
Joshua Attack Helicopters 3000
Joshua Attack Helicopters Mark II 1750
Gabriel Heavy Bombers 350
Horseman Mark V 2000
(7) Carrier Battle Groups
Groups=Mathew, Luke, Mark, John, Joshua, Caleb, Elijah
Planes assigned to carrier battle groups in addition to those posted above.
Each Carrier Group with=
(2) Nimitz Class Aircraft Carriers=14
(6)Kruger Class Cruiser=42
(8)Stingray Class Destroyers=56
(4)Attack Submarines-Orca Class=28
Each Carrier has:
(50) Horseman Mark V
(23) Rescue Choppers, support planes, etc.
Also,
(55) Mako Class Frigates
(61)Orca Class Attack Submarines

(12) Marine Combat Divisions-20,000 troops each
240,000
(18) Mechanised Army Divisions-20,000 troops each/200 tanks each.
360,000
(10) Army Divisions-20,000 troops each
200,000
Tanks=Devastator MBT

WWJD
Amen.

Quinntonian Dra-pol

05-12-2003, 23:06

These numbers should be in line with the population numbers our Dra-poel counterparts have been using.
Quinntonian Dra-pol Loyalists=
(300) Army Divisions 20,000 troops each.
6 million troops
You may recall several postings about bringing in massive amounts of weaponry and training of native troops. These troops are about as well equipped, trained and such as their counterparts, being as they are from the same nation and all. They have much the same advantages as their counterparts. They are deployed in the most forward areas along the Westagaard Line. All must subject themselves to rigourous checks and are under constant supervision by Quinntonian officers and intelligence operatives.

WWJD
Amen.

Effit

06-12-2003, 01:13

(In this to rid Dra-pol of imperialistic oppression? Heh, as if! Effit and her coalition is in this for one single thing - itself.)

RSS Fortuna
Off the South Dalanian Coast

Gnaeus Horatius Dalamus couldn’t remember ever having such a miserable journey, even in his desperate flight from the occupation of Effit. He was hunched in a miserably small cabin, one that was surely beneath the official Effitian representative to an official Pan-Tilsitian diplomatic mission! He had tried to complain to that lout of a captain - that barbarian had informed him that, as this was a primarily Ryansislean mission, all the best beds should go to their delegation! Dalamus seethed at the very thought of that insult, but a fortunate knock on his door saved him the pain of kicking a steel bulkhead again.

“intra,” he called, leaning back on his bare chair, a half-finished letter before him. However, the irate diplomat’s face lit up when he saw his caller. “salve, Marce!” he exclaimed, standing at once to greet his servant. “veni in tablinium mirium meum et se sede*!” Dalamus indicated a chair across from himself with a wry smile.

“salve, domine,” smiled Marcus Gaius Pordalius, friend of the ambassador since childhood and now his personal assistant while taking a seat. “Thank you. I must say that it’s good to see you in such high spirits. I was afraid that you had come down with sea sickness.”

“A sickness, Marce? Yes, you’d be correct in that supposition, but it come not from the sea, but rather our good friends.”

“The Ryansisleans?”

“Indeed. They’ve been nothing but condescending and rude this entire voyage. I don’t care what state the Patria may be in, but they ought to show me the respect granted men of my rank.”

“Have you spoken with Captain Salazar about that?”

“heri vesperi hodieque,”sighed Dalamus, leaning back in his chair. “I’ve gone around in circles with that insufferable man. He doesn’t seem to have the least bit of concern for the pater or his servents!” Just as the Effitian was finishing his rant, there was another knock on the door, and a Ryansislean sailor came in without waiting for permission. Gnaeus regarded him with cold eyes. “tene cum aliqua possumus iuvare?”

The Ryansislean replied with equally cold eyes. “I’d thank you not to speak in tongues not universally understood, sir. The captain has sent me down; apparently, Captain Don Eduardo asked for and received permission to put the party ashore in South Dalania.”

“South Dalania!?” asked Dalamus in shock, both he and Marcus rising at the same time. “Ibrahaim gave me orders personally that we were to go to Dra-pol only!”

“Plans change,” shrugged the sailor, not even bothering to tag a ‘sir’ on that time. “The captain feels it is too risky to try and run the blockade without a port waiting for us on the other side. My Emperor has contacted the South Dalanian government to ask permission and for them to provide you with transportation. We should know soon know what there government’s response is.” And the sailor turned to walk out, leaving Gnaeus Horatius steaming.

(* it can be assumed that they continue speaking in latin, but, well, English is my first language ;). I’ll throw a bit in at certain parts and continue to use vocative for names and titles.)

Promise of Joshua

06-12-2003, 01:41

I lost about 30,000 soldiers and marines in the early going of this operation.

I have the following in the Dra-pol area deployed to Hamhung under the command of Quinttonia or Quinntonian Dra-pol

10,000 Marines (Senior Colonel Sosabowski commanding)
The 3rd Armored Cav (3,000 men with 100 M1a2 Abrams and 150 Bradleys)
150 Ah-1 Cobra attack helocopters
2 AC-130 Specter Gunships
4 AWACS E767s
200 F16s
100 F15E Strike Eagles

My naval task force was recalled when HBF took over the blockade however the Typhoon class submarine Moses remains in the area (nukes removed and missile chamber refitted for special ops transport, monitoring, and deployment. Fairly advanced stuff with additional soundproofing to aid silent operations and monitoring)
(Admiral Sosabowski commanding, brother of the Colonel)

also deployed POJ Benjamin, an OHIO class SSBN. Capt Prien commanding. (I've used the name before. This is a relative)

06-12-2003, 02:09

ooc: This is Happy Baseball Fans. I'll post under this id when I'm handling the operatives in country like the guys with the wonderful little crucifix tatoos and the various things that happen with them and the internal resistance they are trying to foment.

06-12-2003, 02:43

As the wagon continued northwards the commander looked impassively at the village they had just passed through. He didn't care whether they had accepted the foodstuffs and monetary inducements and cheap weapons. He wasn't even concerned that his unit would have had to wipe out this village had they not cooperated. It just didn't matter; it would have just been extra effort.

His squad with the recruits for the "Free Dra-pol Navy" was already underway for the coast. These people must really be oppressed if so many young men and women were willing to enlist in a navy that didn't exist yet. O well, how were they going to work that out? Not his problem he decided as he turned and followed his unit into the trees.

06-12-2003, 03:06

the blockade is not having the desired effect and is in fact encouraging those who wish to annoy us

yes, however sometimes it is best to apply strong medicine quickly to an annoying itch. Would you not agree Father Daniel.

agreed sir. Should I issue the appropriate orders and perhaps call a press conference?

no. No press conference. I'm sure those who have involved themselves will know in short order what we do. the Premier responded.

The Yellow Sea Blockade Group

Four Carrier Battle Groups change course and head south. their course seemingly bringing them in close proximity to the northward moving Ryanisile vessel.

The HBF "Mays" and "Mantle" combined Carrier battle groups remain on station in the southernmost portion of the now seemingly defunct blockade patrol routes. In addition to the 14 escort vessels of the battle group, several sub tenders and their OH Perry Frigate escorts as well as a 2 underway replenishment vessels and a minesweeper with escorts bringing the total number of vessels to around 35 surface ships. The CAP is now centered on the battle group and the majority of the western coastline of Dra-pol, including Poyyongyang, is free of the sound of aircraft for the first time in maybe years.

Far below however, submarine Captains are informing their sonar operators that all surface contacts can now be designated with the "tango" call sign

ooc Dra-pol did you miss this. I saw a subsequent post by you about the situation in Poyyongyang that has me wondering whether you saw that I had pulled my surface ships out of the NW portions of the Yellow Sea around your coast.

06-12-2003, 03:22

Capt Morris of the Hunter Group Marlin was wondering about the list of "personnel" he had just received. All were chiefs or better slated for retirement. Many now held rank of "Chief of the Boat" in something called the "PRD Navy" most of the others held various chief's rank at least 3 grades up from their current grade, all now in the same "PRD Navy" These personnel were going to travel with the subs of his hunter group to destinations unknown.

As he walked along he didn't notice the change in his own sub or the others in his group until he got to the gangway

What the Hell!!

This was definitely his attack submarine, but the flag was completely different(ooc the same flag as the HBF Dra-pol Resistance) end ooc

We he arrived on board he noticed that his crew was no longer in uniform, but dark blue fatigue looking uniforms with no insignia at all.

It wasn't until he arrived on board that he realized that his entire hunter group had been similairly changed. The only other noticeable addition was the new VLF underwater phone installed alongside the standard one.

What the Hell is going on?

Dra-pol

06-12-2003, 07:30

ooc: 4km wide 150ft deep bunkers? :shock: Hell, if that sort of engineering task can be completed in a few months (or a indeed a decade) we can sure as hell dig a few tunnels. Like you say, I had made prior posts without response, and Quinntonia isn't the only nation on hand. Plenty of other posts came inbetween from other defenders. I don't believe I've at any point previously read a single reference to any manner of counter to tunnel warfare- something not previously applied at any point in the RP.
There seems also to be far too many Drapoel traitors, considering the established character of the nation. I could just as well have had half the Hamhung population rise up and expel their imperial masters. 'tis my country after all.
As an aside- when did the Quinntonian Dra-pol thing first come to be? The earliest post I found about it was one I posted a while ago as Hotan attempted to prove the lack of legal right for the continuation of the occupation.
I don't know where we're going with this now, as people seem to be returning and bringing in renewed forces. I didn't think we were spoiling for another fight, but..we'll do it. Considering there's apparently tens of millions of people and several million soldiers crammed into one city, we've quite a killing zone once Drapoel artillery opens up. Then a couple of anti-shipping missiles, and bingo- famine. (You do all realise that pretty much all of Hamhung's food must be imported now, and you have how many people in there? I wonder how these western capitalist democracies continue to justify this level of spending and deployment. I mean, some third party step in an explain if I'm being absurd, but it doesn't seem to me that they could keep it up for over two years. We've sat back and waited assuming the weak democrats will begin to have second thoughts, but if its never going to happen..what're we waiting for?)
I'm not too keen on all the ooc outlines of the conflict.. they are still carrying IC bias. In the end Dra-pol was a completely non-threatening isolationist state until Quinntonia came along, and two odd years later three or four million people are dead, and sovereign Drapoel land is under the military domination of a foreign coalition.

Well, screw it. I'll just abandon my last few pages of development and think of some way else to approach.
(y'know, actually, I'm pretty convinced- remotely democratic capitalist states absolutely can't maintain a level of deployment sufficient to fight off the increasingly well armed Drapoel masses. And considering that it is cut off by land, Hamhung is going to be massively difficult to feed. All of its power generation must be local, too. The over-crowding must be hell, and there's no room for tactical deployment or dispersal of troops. The balance of local power is all wrong.)

I feel the need, for some reason, to add another mention of the potential for growth in Dra-pol's military, considering that we are supposedly more extreme than North Korea, as long established. NK is 30 times smaller than Dra-pol. Dra-pol's army is less than 10 times larger than NKs. NK has a navy, too. NK also has the world's largest special forces, and its troops have been proven well trained and motivated (2 special forces operatives trapped in the south evaded capture for 50 days and killed 11 of those in pursuit- so much for superior western training and equipment) I might just offset that 150ft deep 4km wide bunker line with an extra twenty million troops..

In short, Dra-pol is getting tired of foreigners flooding into her land and restricting use of her own skies. Any nation would, and given the Drapoel character, I'm struggling to justify Hotan's patience -the character of my ..characters is being degraded! Does anyone have any bright ideas? How on earth can I not launch an all out assault on Hamhung? How can I justify it? Helllp!

(Heh.. glad the latin's to be secondary. Any latin I know has been picked up from.. God knows where, actually. Never had the option of learning it in school or college. Damn under-funded education system with it's complete lack of concern for dead languages!)

IC post to come..
(I'm just at a bit of a loss for ideas. Be interesting to see where this Effit thing is going. I'm half hoping they screw us over so Dra-pol can attempt its first ever invasion ;) (we'd have to swim, of course))

Effit

06-12-2003, 07:44

(Heh.. glad the latin's to be secondary. Any latin I know has been picked up from.. God knows where, actually. Never had the option of learning it in school or college. Damn under-funded education system with it's complete lack of concern for dead languages!)

IC post to come..
(I'm just at a bit of a loss for ideas. Be interesting to see where this Effit thing is going. I'm half hoping they screw us over so Dra-pol can attempt its first ever invasion ;) (we'd have to swim, of course))

(I think the main reason I'm limiting my use is so I don't screw up too badly ;) ... not that I probably haven't already, of course! As for Ibrahaim's plan...well, I haven't really fleshed it out yet. I've been assured by the powers-that-be in the back of mind that it's downright cunning, though! And probably does involve the screwing-over of Dra-pol somewhere.

On a more somber note, I realize that I haven't exactaly been the most active in this roleplay (which I have been (sort of) following and, for the most part, admiring), but, as one used to having people assume a lack of technology = a lack of iniative, training, loyalty, and general intelligence, I do agree with Dra-pol. I think certain parties, and no names mentioned, of course!, need to spend a bit more time thinking things through. Not meant as an insult, of course, but merely a suggestion.

*wanders off until S.D. shows up*)

Dra-pol

06-12-2003, 08:05

DaKhiem

Hotan appeared to his associates increasingly detached. Many thought that perhaps Dra-pol had lost its momentum, and that the Secretary was so linked with the republic that he personified its condition. One could only imagine the condition of the Director.

Paegam

Picking himself up from the floor, the senior Banat officer bowed before his opponent. That was the first time Koshiako had been able to take his sparring partner off balance. The infant director was evidently as sharp of body as he was of mind.

The child was more keen than ever in returning to his studies, however, now that Hotan had allowed his guardians to educate the boy a little on the situation outside the Forbidden City.

Proceeding to the next room, Koshiako removed the straps from his hands and feet, and enthusiastically spread out a number of charts and other documents in an orderly fashion on the low table before him.

His chief nurse joined him some twenty minutes later, and inquired with a smile as to the source of the Director's then apparent confusion.

"Is it the Drapoel way to let evil go unpuished, comrade nana?"

A now equally confused nurse replied that it was not. That would show weakness, and invite further wrong.

"They have taken comrade uncle for his wrongs. Why do we not take their leaders?"

The nurse struggled to find the proper party line response.

"Is Dra-pol weak, comrade nana?"

At this the Banat officer made his return apparent. Before long the young Koshiako -who was after all Director of the republic- had set into motion the unstopable chain of events that would lead to Drapoel attempts against the homelands of their invaders.

True, Hotan ran the republic day to day, but Koshiako was Director, and no matter how manipulated he may be most of the time, his word was absolute in the mind of the Drapoel. Even Hotan could not argue.

DaKhiem began to contact all of its allies and associates in an effort to secure transit of agents into any of the Crusader states.

Dra-pol was going to fight back.

Hotan attempted to take some control of the changing tide by directing as much as possible of Dra-pol's aggression. The republic would attack imperialism anywhere it could be found, with any and all available force. He wanted to send thousands of men into battle with imperialism, but the lack of a navy and the nature of Dra-pol's borders left little room for manouver. China wouldn't be attacked. Perhaps the south? Perhaps one of our associates may require reinforcement in their own struggle? Hotan saw the world populated by two distinct clans. To him a blow against western values anywhere on earth was a blow to the Crusaders. Perhaps China, Beth Gellert, or Effit had foe more readily crushed than the Crusaders.

Perhaps the Crusaders would step-down their operations in Dra-pol if capitalist-democracy-Y came under attack.

Beth Gellert

06-12-2003, 09:48

Over the southern end of the Yellow Sea a pair of Preston twin engine piston aircraft from the BGEF make use of their assorted electronic means to scan for possible threats to the following flotilla.

A sonar buoy here and there, radar scanning constantly.

Below the waves, the two Anunkai nuclear hunter submarines slipped on towards the western coast of Dra-pol, while some miles behind five hydrofoil gunboats spearheaded the advance of the trimarans flagship frigate CS Ood and carrier CS Engels, half-dozen radar-reduced fleet defence frigates, carrier assault ships CS Igovia and Knavesmire, and the expeditions assorted cargo and support vessels.

The Commonwealth let it be known that the BGEF intended to anchor off Dra-pol and to initiate further diplomatic contact with DaKhiem. Deployment of men and equipment from the expedition would go ahead with Dra-pol's say so, and inspite of any 3rd party objections. Beth Gellert was not at war with anyone on earth at this moment, but would obliterate any nation that should choose to attack the little expedition as it moved first through international and Chinese waters, and then Drapoel, and never without permission from the sovereign governments of the mentioned states.

[makes the most of being by far the most powerful single nation involved -this is a new one on me! Battle of Salvador aside :wink: ]

Back in Beth Gellert, Senates debated The People's Commonwealth's involvement in the situation, with many calling for greater commitment in light of how long the CPRD had suffered. Opposition was shrinking since news of neighbouring Salvador's election results- with the socialists in power, fear of hostilities at home had faded.

Iansisle

06-12-2003, 10:34

... Battle of Salvador aside :wink: ...

(At the risk of taking this wonderfully IC topic further off topic, I'd just like to put in a good word for BG here. Despite having my ass famously (well, in certain circles at least ;)) kicked at Salvador, I'd like to say that BG has to be one of the most realistic RPers it's been my pleasure to work with. In addition, don't underestimate the power of his ships - they may be small, but they sure pack a wollop! I'd say that one of his frigates can easily beat a 13577684357 ton über-death carrier.

So yeah. I think I had a point when I started this post, but...yeah.)

Beth Gellert

06-12-2003, 14:21

(Aw shucks! Same to you..erm..only without so much possibility of sinking an uber whatsit, probably. Hm. Couldn't hurt to take this chance to stick in a bit more development.)

Commonwealth Central Accounting, Gibborim (Beth Gellert)

It doesn't. It just doesn't add up. "It's not a mistake."

"Oh, I'm sure it is. The revolution was a hectic time, granted, but that much money doesn't just vanish."

"It never turned up anywhere else. Sumer's been co-operative since Powell took power, and there's no way Llewellyn's lot got it. Someone on our end must have siphoned it off somewhere."

Factory 218, New Welsh Mountains, south of Porthmadog

"Malu cachu!" Scorned the old revolutionary soldier on his comrade's insistance that the operation was being watched.

"Seriously. That mine's been closed for months, but the old truck wasn't there last time we came up."

"Bah. Of course it was. Focus, would you? For gods' sake!"

The crate was heaved cautiously aboard the Zil 131 truck, and the next 152mm "alternative" warhead container was brought up.

07-12-2003, 00:40

Over the southern end of the Yellow Sea a pair of Preston twin engine piston aircraft from the BGEF make use of their assorted electronic means to scan for possible threats to the following flotilla.

A sonar buoy here and there, radar scanning constantly.

Below the waves, the two Anunkai nuclear hunter submarines slipped on towards the western coast of Dra-pol, while some miles behind five hydrofoil gunboats spearheaded the advance of the trimarans flagship frigate CS Ood and carrier CS Engels, half-dozen radar-reduced fleet defence frigates, carrier assault ships CS Igovia and Knavesmire, and the expeditions assorted cargo and support vessels.

The Commonwealth let it be known that the BGEF intended to anchor off Dra-pol and to initiate further diplomatic contact with DaKhiem. Deployment of men and equipment from the expedition would go ahead with Dra-pol's say so, and inspite of any 3rd party objections. Beth Gellert was not at war with anyone on earth at this moment, but would obliterate any nation that should choose to attack the little expedition as it moved first through international and Chinese waters, and then Drapoel, and never without permission from the sovereign governments of the mentioned states.

ooc Dakheim is not on the coast. end ooc

Yellow Sea Dra-pol Waters 400 feet down

Van le Park put the VLF phone back on its receiver as did 8 other Captains.

make for this point NW of our current position. We will still be in Dra-pol waters across their course while the invaders will still be advancing. Make your speed 5 knots. We should be in position well before the invader subs and carriers arrive. Our "direction finder" (said with a grin) has the technology to direct us to targets. Load warshot in tubes 1-4 and begin deploying mines out of the rear tubes as we advance. We will outnumber the invader subs 6-1 comrades.

It won't matter if we fuck up the first shot thought COB O'reilly as he oversaw the helmsman in their duties. He definitely was one of the few non- Asian crewmen aboard this 40 man diesel sub.[/i]

07-12-2003, 01:11

ooc The diesal subs' specs mentioned above are given below. They were bought, provisioned, crewed, escorted and given by me. "HBF Drapol Resistance" is how I differentiate between actions taken by my military and the "resistance movement" sometimes the lines will blur.

Katze Class Brown Water Patrol Submarines.
Displacement: 1007 tons surfaced, 1600 tons submerged
Length: 200'
Beam: 20'3"
Draft: 14'
Speed: 12 knots surfaced, 18 knots submerged
Armament: 3"gun/.50machine gun, 4 bow torpedo tubes 28 21" torpedoes(533 mm) and 4 stern minelayers, 12 mines standard load-out, more mines can be added in place of torpedos or vice versa at a 1mine-2torp ratio.
Complement: 40
Operating Depth: 700 feet Maximum: 820
Cruising Range: 5,000 miles surfaced at 10 knots.
Submerged Endurance: 7 days at 5 knots.
Fuel Capacity: 25,000 gallons.
Patrol Endurance: 40 days.
Diesel Hydrogen Hybrid AIP engines, surfaced/electric motors, submerged
Propulsion: Diesel-electric reduction gear with 4 main generator engines,
1 aux. generator.
4 main motors.
2 126-cell main storage batteries.
Sonar: Tamir-5L active, Herkules passive array

Notes: Advanced diesel submarines with Air Independent Hybrid engines. Smaller and much cheaper than nuclear powered alternatives. It is meant for coastal patrol and defense, can also be used for blockade and interdiction roles. Excellent for the expanding navy of a developing nation. Can overpower modern nuclear attack submarines if used in wolf packs, although a one-on-one battle will usually be a failure. With its torpedos and deck guns it is more than a match for most surface vessels.

end ooc

Capt Morris put down the receiver after giving the course and speed of the contacts advanced his BSY-1 sonar had supplied. Playing hunter hound with his LA class attack sub for a bunch of deasel subs just wasn't sitting right but having the AWACS from the Mays and Mantle didn't hurt.

Meanwhile in the air above the Yellow Sea.

The E-2c Haweye AWACS aircraft had the oncoming BG surface ships just as its BG counterpart probably had the "Mays", "Mantle" CBG advancing northward at 1/3 speed. The E-6b Prowler aircraft was moving with the F14 Tomcats aloft on CAP to within sufficient range to jam the EAW systems ability of the aloft aircraft of the BG group. 3 S-3b Vikings were lifting off equiped with Harpoon anti ship missiles just in case. Another S-3b would be launched to serve in a mid air refueling capacity. F14s and F18s would probably follow even though the CBG would arrive at the path of the advancing BG battle group long after that group had passed. The groups would be in theoretical strike range of each other shortly.

ooc edit : The "Mays" "Mantle" CBG consists of the two carriers plus

6 Ticonderoga CG's
8 Arleigh Burke DDG's
2 Oscar II SSGNs (guided missile subs) traveling submerged in front of the CBG
4 LA Class SSN attack subs (traveling with the Oscars)
5 AS-39 Sub tenders
1 AOE Replenishment Ship

In addition the CBG has taken the following under command
3 AS-39 Sub Tenders
1 AOE-1 Replenishment ship
2 OH Perry FFGs
1 Arleigh Burke DDG
1 Spruance DD

These vessels are the escorts and support for the diseal subs and their LA class SSN attack sub "direction finders" which are unmarked per previous post

end edit

Meanwhile K767 Tanker aircraft, heavily escorted by F16 Falcons were launching from Hamhung clombing to a high enough altitude for mid air refueling and heading across Dra-pol at intervals. Other aircraft were being fueled and armed as portions of the airbase went on alert.

07-12-2003, 01:42

Quinntonia

07-12-2003, 06:39

OOC- Dra-pol, I was not trying to stymie your entire effort. I just was questioning the ability to move that kind of hardware with no one noticing. I imagine that a few tunnels would be possible, it is the vast network you mentioned that I questioned. And, as for population, man, I wish I had understood at the beginning of this combat that the nations would grow that fast. Let's face it, I created Quinntonin Dra-pol at the beginning of this thread, it is now over 500 million?. Dra-pol proper has nearly as many people as China. Maybe we should have thought ahead and capped our populations right from the beginning. That would be more realistic. Because, if Quinntonian Dra-pol started with a population of only 5 million, how could it grow that much in only two years? I was trying to explain it away with mass defections and such, but where did all the Dra-poel come from, my city of Hamhung now has three and a half times the population of Dra-pol two years ago? I've got top say, the Dra-pol people breed like mad. Idunno, I've been stymied for quite some time as to how to best deal with this thread. I would love to see this turn into a cold-war, claok and dagger sort of thing, but I can never seem to do that right. The Westgaard line was just sopposed to act as enough of a barrier that you would be forced to attack it in other ways besides militarilly.
I don't want to keep playing the you post 1 troop so I'll post 2. I respect all the Rpers here far too much to sully this thread with that. Let's work together to find an IC way to put this thread to bed. Or, at least to let it transform into something else.
BTW, Quinntonia is not a democracy, never claimed to be one. We are a theocracy. There is a system of checks and balances to limit the churches power, but, the poplation is so overwhelmingly behind the church it really doesn't matter. We do elect people to represent the people in government, but those that are supposed to represent God are appointed.
WWJD
Amen.

Beth Gellert

07-12-2003, 08:48

(ooc:I know that DaKhiem is not on the coast, but it is the centre of administration/regime and what-not, and as such loosely refered to as target of our intended contact. I mean, if we were sailing into the UK, we wouldn't be seeking a diplomatic relationship with Dover, probably :) (We've been hoping to dock at either Pyongyang orrr..damn, what's it in the far south west, where the aid's being directed))

Above the Yellow Sea

"Contact, buoy 14." "Roger buoy 14." Replied the Preston's fourth crewman before radioing Ood to relay the relevant position after one of the deployed high-power sonar buoys had picked up the less than modern shape of a deck-gun mounting submarine.

Several miles behind and hundreds of feet below the Prestons, Captain Binney reacted to his com officer's report.
"All stop!"
"All stop."
"Reporting all stop, Sir."
The flotilla came to rest still a few miles out, the escorts taking up modified screening positions, as the three carriers readied interceptors and ASW aircraft. Admiral comrade Nicholas Edwards was summoned to the bridge, briefed as he walked, all the while shaking his head as if some of the vodka might leave his brain by the ears.

Edwards would again lament The People's Commonwealth's dangerously open political system, which would likely have enabled any potential enemy to have knowledge of the general presence of his flotilla's sub-surface assets despite their relatively stealthy disposition. He comforted himself with thoughts of the BGEF's air defence capacity, provided by a wealth of long range Citadel ship-board SAM systems, and the long-range AAELRS missiles of Engels' Hobgoblin air superiority fighters.
If they force it, we shall sit right here and destroy everything that ventures this side of DaKhiem, Edwards told himself.

"Comrade Admiral." Binney greeted the expedition's commander on his eventual arrival on the bridge, handing him a still-warm print-out detailing the situation as it was thus far understood.

"We have sent to DaKhiem advising them of our approach, and of the location of the contact. I have requested clearance to make for port.. I trust they won't think us redundant in asking again.. I hope to secure sufficient land-based force to ensure that the capitalists will not start a fresh war simply to be killed on the first day."

"What of the ah.." Admiral Edwards squinted with mild discomfort as he searched for the name. "Effitians? Where are they?"

"Looks like they're stopping over in the south, comrade Admiral." Replied Binney, waylaying any half-baked Admiralty notion of a united front moving forwards to the coast.

"Mh.
"Send to the capitalists that we aren't here to fight them, and that if they know what's best for them they shall jolly well move their submarines, put down their aeroplanes, and let us by."

"Ah.. aye, comrade Admiral." Came Binney's fairly timid reply.

Dra-pol

07-12-2003, 11:12

(ooc: Paegam, by the way, is something in the vague area of 250 miles from Pyongyang, across the central mountain range, and somewhere between 100/150 miles from Hamhung, through the most densly militarised place probably on earth. It is also on the edge of the region most heavily used from military training and trials, and its exact location is not common knowledge even amongst ordinary Drapoel.)

DaKhiem

Having received transmission from the incoming Beth Gellen vessles, Secretary Hotan replied to the Admiral that the waters were his in Drapoel consideration, and as such in the eyes of the world.
Word was sent to the capitalists that hostilities between their running dogs and DaKhiem-authorised shipping in Drapoel waters would see the republic's full military assistance lent to the latter.

Haeju was already accepting an assortment of foreign shipping, but the long-running an deep nature of Beth Gellert's involvement in the republic meant that their vessels would be accepted further up the coast if needs be.

(ooc once more: Happy- your vessels remaining off the west coast- are they now close to the Drapoel coast and in the south? I mean, what's the situation in Korea Bay to the north?)

Effit

07-12-2003, 12:06

"What of the ah.." Admiral Edwards squinted with mild discomfort as he searched for the name. "Effitians? Where are they?"

Where were the Effitians? A good question! They were still hanging outside South Dalanian waters, waiting for permission from that government to drop off their diplomatic team bound for Dra-pol.

African Commonwealth

07-12-2003, 12:32

~A heavily encrypted missive reaches the central directorate in Dra-pol as a response to the call for aid. The encrypting frames, based on decaying strontium-30, give off the reading that the message comes from a different location in the world every 0.0005 of a second and covers the message in deep layers of gibberish~

We got your message. The Manus Nigra is a bit overworked with our current dispute with Lusaka, but we will dispatch 200 officers who will attempt to aid banat officers into crusader nations. This is of course strictly confidential, and this missive must be destroyed after it is read.

07-12-2003, 13:26

(ooc once more: Happy- your vessels remaining off the west coast- are they now close to the Drapoel coast and in the south? I mean, what's the situation in Korea Bay to the north?)

ooc response: The CBG detailed above is off Dra-pols SW coast and moving north toward BG(as detailed in the post they are moving slowly so that they will cross BG course after BG has been there but the air to air range is close enough for strikes.

The "PRD" subs deployed are moving or are between BG and Dra-pol. I am a little surprised they were spotted; as diseal electric or hybrid (as these are) are more quiet than an LA or Ohio class. Especially when motionless or slow moving. No biggie as BG did state that their people were moving slow and listening carefully. I have a couple of LA class subs serving as "minders" because of their advanced sonar (BSY-1) suites and quieting ability. They can pinpoint and direct the other subs who, in theory, can be waiting across a target's path. There are a lot more subs than what I've deployed but training etc can take time.

Beth Gellert

07-12-2003, 14:37

(ooc: I might not have decided to spot them, except that it struck me as a marker of somewhat archaic design for the subs to by carrying a deck-gun. Even before WWII was out the Germans were realising that it was best not to have such great protrudences jutting from sleek weapons of stealth.)

The BGEF south west of Dra-pol finally came back to life, turning slightly to port and making north-norwest through the Yellow Sea, along the very fringe of Drapoel waters.

"There. We're in Drapoel waters with DaKhiem's permission, we're fully announced, and we're keeping as far clear of other national forces as is possible without leaving Drapoel waters altogether." Admiral Edwards seemed moderately satisfied with the situation, as he had the flotilla increase from its previous crawl-to-stop right up to flank speed, so far as the slowest ships were concerned.

Regardless of his confidence in the proper nature of his progress, the cautious Admiral maintained constant Preston air-presence, and had the modfied light transports joined in the sky by a number of BGSH60 Seahawk helicopters armed variously for anti-submarine and anti-ship operation. A few Hobgoblin interceptors were brought up on deck aboard the Engels, and the majority of the surface-based fleet defence assets moved to screen the starboard flank.

The flotilla made no deliberately aggressive motions as it continued past Haeju.

07-12-2003, 20:04

Outside Paegam

The SGT could do nothing more excpet wait until his sources brought back the info he needed on the target and or his commander arrived. the sunlight seemed to glint briefly off the black crucifix tatoo under his eye as he fixed certain portions of Paegam in his binoculars.

ooc: in light of dra-pols last ooc post I think it more realistic if the city mentioned above is "Dakheim" instead of "Paegam" . Does that work?

Dra-pol

07-12-2003, 20:10

ooc:DaKhiem is somwhere between Hamhung and Pyongyang, so it's a lot closer to the action (though still a dangerous and exhausting trek from either one).

08-12-2003, 03:35

The BGEF south west of Dra-pol finally came back to life, turning slightly to port and making north-norwest through the Yellow Sea, along the very fringe of Drapoel waters.

The flotilla made no deliberately aggressive motions as it continued past Haeju.

Damn!

COB O'reilly made his way to the sonar shack from his place at the helm when he heard the loud curse. Capt. Park had just been informed of the invader's course change which made an intercept almost impossible at the max submerged speed his sub could run on period much less run quietly on.

Capt, can I have a word sir, In the wardroom sir! Quietly sir?

jr was going to get us all killed if he didn't learn to control his emotions; especially in front of a very green crew. These guys got rushed through training and this so called "skipper" wants to throw a tantrum in front of a sonar chief who was in the real navy before jr was born.

the sonar chief winked at COB as he went by

he's next COB thought to himself.

08-12-2003, 06:49

"Permission granted. You are clear to dock at drydock 15. All military escorts are to remain outside of South Dalanian waters and all baggage will be subject to search," radioed the South Dalanian naval officer.

The Effitian ships were in international waters right outside the South Dalanian terratorial waters. The Effitian government had requested the right to send in a diplomatic mission in order to reach Dra-pol. The South Dalanian government had given permission for the ships to dock at the port of Inchon, provided all military escorts halted outside South Dalanian waters.

Flags flying, the Effitian ships entered the drydock where they were greeted by an armed military escort of sixteen marines. A towering concrete customs office with a mounted M249 machine gun sat off to the side as the South Dalanian flag snapped briskly in the breeze.

The leading Effitian diplomat was greeted by a marine officer.

"I'm Major Hwan Lee of the South Dalanian Marines. I've been ordered to escort you and your officials to the Dra-pol border."

Quinntonia

08-12-2003, 22:06

Quinntonian Carrier Battle Groups Luke, Mathew and John are moving to intercept the BG incoming forces. They have put their Horseman Mark V's to air and are equipped for anti-ship action as well as interception of air targets. Also, BG sonar picks up several submarine targets directly in their path. (23 Orca Class Attack Subs) Also, directly above the underwater fleet is a small fleet(20) of Mako Class Frigates.
Quinntonian Rear Admiral William Hutt sends a message on an open channel announcing their intention to speak peacefully with the BG fleet before they are allowed to pass. Will you respond?
Besides the obvious connotations of a large fleet moving to intercept you, we are doing our best to explain that we want only to talk. We are broadcasting on open channels and we ae trying to explain that we are ordered only to open communication before you ae allowed to pass. However, we will return fire if attacked. We don't want battle, just conversation. Please respond.
Slugger 6 in coming intel.
WWJD
Amen.

Effit

09-12-2003, 00:10

The Ryansislean cruiser certainly didn’t have any qualms about waiting outside the territorial waters; certainly, it was better than taking an aging rust bucket into the midst of a blockade, no matter what their orders. Salazar was slightly upset about the instructions to proceed to Inchon when he was so close to Pusan, but recognized the great favor the South Dalanians were doing him.

After steaming the remaining distance, the diplomats’ ship was detached from the heavy cruiser. On the Glorioso’s bridge, however, Captain Don Eduardo was presented with a tricky situation.

“It’s that damn number one boiler, sir,” reported Lieutenant Yan with a shrug. “We’ll have to take it off-line and repair it soon, or else we’ll be with just a single power plant.”

Salazar nodded. “How much longer do you think we have?”

“Using it, perhaps two or three days before its wrecked beyond repair. Running on Number Two only; perhaps six days before that one’s a smoking junk heap. Maybe.” Yan’s face was grim; he didn’t like admitting to the captain they were in an almost hopeless situation.

“Hmm. What’s the nearest non-blockaded port that you think would grant repairs?”

“China is doubtful, Captain. Southern Japan is our best bet.”

“And how fast could you give me on Number Two only?”

“Ten knots, sir.” It was clear Yan knew that answer; as clear as it was that he didn’t like it. Salazar didn’t in particular either; roughly seven hundred miles from Inchon to repair...at ten knots...with a time limit of less than six days.

“That’s cutting it awful close, lieutenant.”

“I know, sir, but that’s what the numbers tell me. I am sorry.”

“Don’t worry, lieutenant. We’ll make for Japan on Number Two only. Tell the Fortuna that we’re leaving.”

----

Meanwhile, on shore, Gnaeus Horatius and Marcus Gaius joined with the Healdsburgian and Ryansislean representatives. It was clear that, despite their current joint venture, there was no love lost between the three parties. Pordalius quickly seized on the fact that he specifically had been addressed to establish command of the diplomatic mission.

“salve, Major Lee,” he greeted. “I am Gnaeus Horatius Pordalius, and this is my aide.” The Healdsburgian and Ryansislean diplomats were clearly upset at being sidelined, but held their peace for the moment. “I am honored by the understanding your government has extended to us. I also understand that you may wish to search our bags?” Pordalius turned slightly. “Marce! da sibi nos impedimenta!

At once, Marcus had the six Effitian porters - each of whom was carrying two bags - open them for Major Lee. Four belonged to each party, and the Ryansislean and Healdsburgian delegations bristled at having their bags searched without their permission, but said nothing. Effitian arrogance was a story as old as time. The packages contained nothing resembling contraband.

Beth Gellert

09-12-2003, 00:10

(ooc:There are three Quinntonian carrier battlegroups still hanging around in the Yellow Sea? These are certainly in the right place, and not just popping up where needed? From recent proceedings I was getting used to feeling that the blockade was all but defunct, as HBF was seemingly restructuring the deployment. Meh, oh well. Must be fun maintaining tens of billions of dollars worth of deployment and thousands of men on the far side of a peninsula you have to sail around and back in order to supply. I notice Dra-pol's economy is on the way down, and being propped up somewhat by massive aid..)

A lengthy transmission was sent from the Beth Gellen flagship to the source of the Quinntonian transmission-

"Rear Admiral William Hunt, this is the Commonwealth Ship Ood leading the Beth Gellen Expeditionary Flotilla.
"We are in Drapoel waters as one of the necessary steps in the pursuit of conversation with the Drapoel.
"When we are in Quinntonian waters you may hope that we have come to converse with the Quinntonians.
"In accordance with arrangements made between comrade Admiral Nicholas Edwards and DaKhiem this flotilla is en route to moorings in the Choson People's Republic of Dra-pol.
"If you seek audience with The People's Commonwealth, a consulate should shortly be established in DaKhiem; or else you may telephone the Commonwealth Professional Civil Service in Portmeirion."

Aboard the Ood Captain Binney scratched the back of his neck as he peered through the fog that was gathering about his ship. Damnable Christians. Go on, start a war. See if The Commonwealth doesn't liberate Hamhung in a week.

The BGEF continued its progress as previously described.

09-12-2003, 03:20

Outside Dakheim

The SGT knew from intel that the target was in fairly constant radio and other electronic contact. If one of the AWACs could just give him a grid; this could all end soon enough. He had reducred his team to a total of 4 so as to avoid detection. they had supplies for maybe a week at this rate. His sources inside the city had not yet gotten definitetive leads on the target's primary location, but soon enough...

North of the South Dalanien DMZ

Having sent the latest batch of naval recruits coastward and despatched the wagon on it sway north, the Commander gazed without any seeming emotion at the road between South Dalenia and points north in Dra-pol. Nothing seemed differnet about the road to the naked eye and that was important. The crucifix below his eye flickered ever so slightly as he heard his senior Cpl move up behind him.

now all we need is the right size convoy with the right cargo or transport

Indeed. He wasn't fond of the plan. Especially because there was too much reliance on the fact that this spot was within airstrike distance of the bases in Hamhung.

09-12-2003, 05:27

Capt Horst had his Air Cav Co on standby as directed. he understood the entire battalion could be deployed in this op. This would be the first combat op for the new Air Cav division. He was less worried about that than the unanswered question

who would be watching out for us while we took care of the target?

Quinntonia

09-12-2003, 06:13

Rear Admiral William Hutt just shook his head. "Every time we try and talk to another nation, they seem to take that as a real insult. Are you sure we were broadcasting in the right language? Well, send this message, 'This is Rear Admiral William Hutt. Commander of the Quinntonian Pacific Fleet. We are asking for conversation with your commander or commanders. We will, as you have requested, ask your government for permission to talk to your fleet. I want to make it quite clear that if I feel that any of my ships or men are in any danger, we will respond appropriately to defend ourselves. However, we are not asking for permission to search your ships. We are not requesting that you turn back and not enter Dra-pol waters. We are not asking that you even change your course. We are asking only for conversation. That would be best effected by a small decrease in speed. I am asking for permission to come aboard to your f;agship and spaeak face-to-face with your commander. After that conversation, we will allow you to push back the blockade posthaste, and our prayer warriors will pray for your safe arrival. please respond."
He then turned to his 2IC and said, "I hope that this will stop what is coming. We have a mission, perhaps that most important of this war, and we will do it if at all possible."
WWJD
Amen.

09-12-2003, 06:27

HBF Base behind Hamhung

The Ah-1 Cobra helocopter gunships began fueling and preparing for a possible op as the AWACS E767 and K135R Stratotankers began lifting off. The CAP that normally flys over Dra-pol airspace never launches. While a large number of planes are in the air. Most are loitering near the airbase or over the waters to the south.

09-12-2003, 06:59

The trip from Inchon to the southern tip of the DMZ had taken only a couple of hours, although they had hit traffic on the way out of the city. Passing through the outer ring of troops, the Effitian visitors stared out the windows of the Land Rovers, looking out at the uniformed soldiers, the camoflaged tanks and AA positions and concrete fortifications painted in camoflage tones.

Miltary officials had decided to take the diplomats through Panmunjom, since it was the only part of the DMZ which Dra-pol maintained a diplomatic presence.

The uniformed soldier saluted as Major Lee's vehicle passed, while a number of other soldiers pulled open a chain-link gate topped with concertina wire. A South Dalanian flag snapped briskly in the breeze as rifle-toting South Dalanian soldiers patrolled the grounds on the Southern side of Panmunjom. The low blue buildings that stretched across the Military Demarcation Line were evident as the vehicles drew closer.

The vehicles came to a stop and the South Dalanians climbed out, opening the doors for the Effitian diplomats. Leaving their rifles in the vehicles and armed with only holstered Beretta .9mm handguns, the South Dalanian soldiers escorted them to the tip of the MDL where the diplomats were then escorted by several khaki-clad Banat security agents.

"Welcome to Dra-pol gentleman...."

The South Dalanians casually glanced at the communists before turning back to their vehicles and driving back to the CP...

Quinntonia

09-12-2003, 07:31

Prime Minister Jesse son of Obed is requesting contact with the Director of Dra-pol, ASAP. Governer of Quinntonian Dra-pol Bishop Gerald Westgaard requests that Dra-pol respond ASAP. Please respond to these powerful Quinntonians who ae trying to work together towards a diplomatic solution to the Dra-pol problem.
You will however, notice that the usual Coalition missions over your nation do not happen today. Quinntonian air missions have long been on the decline, but today even Happy Basebal Fans do not launch their ever-present air raids. This is our first show of our intention of peace, we are willing to make the first move. From now on, Dra-pol airspace will be respected as soveriegn from official Coalition activities, excluding defensive actions, ie. following aircraft taht have been involved in attacks on Quinntonian citisens, including Quinntoina Dra-pol citisenry.
We made the first move. please make the next one. Consider this a challenge. If you truly want peaceas you say you do, let us engage in official communication.
WWJD
Amen.

09-12-2003, 10:08

OOC; Can somebody bring me up todate?

Ie a summary of what has happened since my last post.

Quinntonia

09-12-2003, 10:12

Read the thread. Start at page one.
WWJD
Amen.

Iansisle

09-12-2003, 10:21

imported_Celeborne

09-12-2003, 10:42

Read the thread. Start at page one.
WWJD
Amen.

Play nice, thats what Jesus would do.

09-12-2003, 10:57

09-12-2003, 13:09

OOC; I last posted on friday and there has been at least two pages posted since then. Plus I am quite tried and do really want to have to read through all them posts.............zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

ooc The CBG I dispatched to trail its coat thru your waters in route to Dra-pol has probably already arrived off Hamhung. (my reason was the airship incident mentioned below)

I'm guessing (don't want to report your losses) that since you haven't posted airship losses from our last that they were all shot down(?) I'll try to find and repost my last on this subject. When I repost the last involvement with you I will give you a page number (probably page 25) to pick up reading on. A lot has happened and it may help to take time to read a couple of pages because what I'm focusing on may not be of interest to you but something I see as minor maybe something you want to run with.

09-12-2003, 13:24

The orders were given to the planes at the blockade to shoot down the Pinafore AND to inorge the incoming fire from the blockade ships. Luckily the only weapons the Pinafore had were the rifles the rebels had, and it wasn't long in downing the blimp. The Imperial War Office had managed to send a message through to the blockade telling them of what had happened.

The Imperial War Office also requested if it was possible if the nations holding the blockade could escort the other blimp back to SteamEarth airspace whilst the planes returned to the airfield in Dra-pol for repairs to be carried out.

ooc you need to report your own losses. sea sparrow ship to air missiles were launched at every steam earth plane and blimp in the sky. Are you saying they all missed? The range wasn't that long.

Looking back, overreaction; yes. but a response is still due. btw what "airfield in dra-pol"

Loses; One blimp lost (rebel one), one blimp severly damaged, 2 planes destroyed, 1 plane severly damaged and ditched into sea, one plane damaged engine, 1 one lightly damaged with medium damage to left wing.

2 Pilots dead, 2 co-pilots dead, 3 gunners dead, one blimp crew dead, 10 blimp crew injured and one gunner plus 1 pilot injured.

The Imperial War Office is investigating how WCA gained control of the Pinafore.

Airfield in Dra-pol? Earlier post where WCA took control of blimp, basically the airfield where we exchanged supplies for some of Dra-pol's coal reserve.

ooc ok my bad. I didn't this on page 26. It seems to be your last post and covers the losses I asked about. I must have been having a senior moment. I would start from page 26 were I you. I think the thread can be broken down into:

1. Dra-pol doing something with jr at Paegram
2. The HBF Dra-pol Resistance movement with interests in the yellow sea almost confrontation with BG and the ongoing saga of recruitment and other stuff on the ground in Dra-pol (I have a CBG and other naval assets in the area that is the remnant of the Yellow Sea blockade force with the rest having been pulled around to the Hamhung/Sea of Japan area)
3. The Seige at Hamhung and the tunnel issue etc
4. South Dalenia and the meeting with Ryanisile
5. My sputtering around with naval ops and the development of the Air Cav on the ground.
6. The latest initative by Quinntonia to dialogue directly with BG and Dra-pol towards peace

I think thats it. I apologize if I've forgotten anyone.

Dra-pol

09-12-2003, 13:28

(ooc:If HBF is flying helicopters out over Dra-pol, I'll just say that there are an awful lot of men running about with shoulder launched SAMs, some Igla-S, most Chinese QW-2.. both are good systems, not just old SA-7 or such. I won't mess up a plan by saying we shoot anyone down right away, but be aware that the chances of getting more than a few hundred yards over mountainous Dra-pol in a helicopter are slim. We got quite used to fighting helicopters in the Three Day War. And now we have interceptors up. Woo. Anyway, enough about that)

Over Dra-pol the now near three thousand modern interceptor strong PAAF began to fly heavy patrols. The already busy skies over Kanggye and Pyongyang were now mirrored across the republic. Hotan wasn't about to surrender the skies he'd been handed.

Secretary Hotan had a reply drafted and sent to the Quinntonians indicating Dra-pol's preparedness to talk, indicating that the dispatch was in the name of Director Koshiako.

(sorry about the brief post- I am desperate for tea- back in a bit)

Dra-pol

09-12-2003, 13:34

ooc:Yeah, I think the essence of the situation is that, with a few tense standoffs of course, the situation is creeping towards some sort of relative peace. Dra-pol is making contact directly with Beth Gellert and Effit, and taking back control of the skies.
Next issues are final clearing of the Yellow Sea, and the implosion of the somewhat artificially maintained Drapoel economy (see Observing the Republic http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92809&highlight= factbook entry for GDP 'growth' rates)
Then we have to see what these Effitians have in mind.. oh, and the South Dalanian leader may be in some trouble. That might shake things up.

10-12-2003, 02:10

ooc

1. You couldn't have 3,000 plus aircraft and a 9 million man army under the conditions that have been imposed upon you over the past several months rl time. Your last post with af numbers back around page 24 gave your af total effective at a little over 300 aircraft. If you have stukas and fock wolfes in the air that is one thing but 3,000 (?) jet aircraft(??)

end ooc

Iansisle

10-12-2003, 03:25

(South Dalania; Dra-pol -- I'd just like to say that I haven't given up on this thread. I have a few essays (blah) to write this evening, though I did intend to give y'all an IC reply. My most humble apologies for the delay.)

Quinntonia

10-12-2003, 06:05

Read the thread. Start at page one.
WWJD
Amen.

(You know, there's really no reason to be an ass. He just asked a simple question. If you don't want to give a helpful answer, don't give one at all.)

EDIT: it just occurred to me: in this situation, what would Jesus do?

You know, you are right. I apologise for my actions there. I was having a bad day and took it out on him. It was uncalled for. You have never done anything but be a great RPer and consumate pro in this and the other threads I've read of yours. Please forgive me.
WWJD
Amen.

10-12-2003, 07:05

OOC: Any action taken by sympathizers in this post are conspirators within the South Dalanian government....this is not representative of SD policy as a whole, we still remain neutral

IC:

The border checkpoint stood at the southern end of a long wooden causeway that stretched across the DMZ itself. Here there were no mines, no fences, just two pavillions opposite each other, each manned by soldiers of two respective nations.

On the southern side, two South Dalanian soldiers saltured as a Humvee with a two star license plate drove up. A captain climbed out of the driver's seat, opening the door for a tall figure wearing the uniform of a South Dalanian general.

"General Chun?" asked the first soldier. "What are you doing out here?"

"Captain, escort these men back to their posts," snapped the general. With loud protests carrying across the border, the captain and two other officers moved the men back into the guard post, closing the door and blocking the windows. After completing this task, the general strode to the middle of the bridge where two Dra-pol Banat officers waited. With a smooth hand motion, the general reached into his jacket and removed a data disc which was handed to the first Banat agent.

"This is military satellite data showing the positions of several of the HBF naval warships in the Yellow Sea," said the general. "I trust you will know what to do with it."

The two Banat agents nodded coldly and then turned back to their side of the border. The general smiled as he walked back to his Humvee....he was doing his part for history.

10-12-2003, 11:58

Imperial War Office, Serlin

Commander-in-Chief Bates was having a meeting with the Regent about recent evemts. "Regent things are not going well in the Dra-pol area and I suggest that we stop the blimp convoys."

"Bates we made a promise to Dra-pol that we'll provide support in teams of general supplies like food, what do you suggest we do to help them if we stop the blimp convoys?"

"We could send in some of the Colonial Air Corps?"

"If we do that, we could start of the whole war damn over there again!"

"Regent Dra-pol is already a war zone, besides Dra-pol needs all the help it can get."

Regent Edmund Vermillion sighed before carrying on. "Very well, telegraph Dra-pol then, offer our help."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Dra-pol

10-12-2003, 15:48

(Just ooc for now. Dra-pol has run-up more than nine trillion dollars of defence spending in the last year. That's close to the entire GDP of the USA. The majority of our interceptor-fleet has been imported from East Islandia, at a cost of billions. Pilots are trained in three nations. Extra aviation fuel is being smuggled in by Taiwanese companies. Almost all relevent imports are coming in across the northern border, which has at no point even seen hostile activity, and is by now so heavily militarised that hostile activity there would last seconds and end in Drapoel victory. Dra-pol has taken the lion's share of Islandian aviation exports over the last year or two. I have hardly taken into account any domestic manufacture of aircraft, despite the fact that we've out-sourced much of our armour production to East Islandian factories, too. In truth you'd want to be more concerned about the number of SAM systems, AAA and conventional artillery pieces coming out of Kanggye. Dra-pol can presently put twenty or thirty thousand tons* of high explosives on Hamhung inside an hour, without firing a single FROG-7B.
3,000 jet aircraft is nothing all that fancy. Normally importing such things would be economic suicide, but 1)it's nothing out of our defence budget, and 2)since when has DaKhiem cared about the suicidal nature of its behaviour anyway?)

*pretty rough working off the top of my head based on conservative estimates of what North Korea can do to Seoul with what they have, roughly what we have, how much 75 and 150mm shells weigh on average, and how many pounds go into a ton, heh. Ow. See, anyway, this sort of thing is why DaKhiem is so stubborn. Despite the Crusaders' seeming superiority, and their naval forces, Dra-pol can kill everyone in Hamhung and knows it. If you start anything -bombing Kanggye, attacking DaKhiem, firing ship/sub launched missiles, we'll put the thumbscrews on Hamhung and force your governments to re-think.
The fighters have been imported to a reasonably full degree based on the level of deployment carried out in the same time by coalition forces, the building of Hamhung, and more significantly the Westguaard..Wester..W.. Bishop's line.

Quinntonia

11-12-2003, 06:09

OOC-That is The Westgaard line, or the Peace Line.
I'm also just waiting for confirmation from BG about my last IC post.
IC- All Coalition air activity is to stop immediately! Dra-poel airspace will not be violated by any authorised Coalition forces.
Commander In Chief of Quinntonian Dra-pol Forces General L. Gemby
Commander of Quinntonian Pacific Fleet Rear Admiral William Hutt
Governor Bishop Gerald Westgaard of Quinntonian Dra-pol
Minister of Defense Vanessa Mohr
Prime Minister Jesse son of Obed

WWJD
Amen.

_Taiwan

13-12-2003, 02:50

After the swift leadership change and the fall of the Pro-China KMT, several memos were sent between members of the Parliament.

From: Taiwanese Intelligience service
To: President Chen Shui Bian

RE: Chung-Kuo trading activities

Chung-Kuo aircraft have allegedly smuggled aviation fuel for the last few months into Dra-pol, contravening our foreign policies. We ask you to approve an investigation into their activities.

Beth Gellert

13-12-2003, 03:58

The Beth Gellen flotilla, slowed to appease the Quinntonians, none the less draws ever nearer to the Drapoel coast.

Back in The Commonwealth, debate turns to consideration of the near future. Taiwan has reportedly seen a shift in power, and one that is away from the mainland line. It is supposed that one of Dra-pol's key local trade partners may be reducing the favourability of said trade so far as the embattled republic is concerned, and Beth Gellert examines her readiness to take-over in some degree.

Factory 218, New Welsh Mountains, south of Porthmadog

I told you they were watching us.

-The last words reportedly spoken by Adrian Holt to Glyn Fishguard before the latter was shot down, and the former arrested at the culmination of a firefight between Gellert Sentinels and Sopworth Socialist operatives.

Recovered from a Zil 131 truck impounded near-by were some forty warheads, apparently for approximately six inch artillery. Ominously, four of said warheads were in fact tactical nuclear devices, as intended for last ditch defensive operations around the New Welsh Mountains, should The Commonwealth ever be invaded. Still more worrying, over recent months unknown numbers of similar trucks had passed unchecked to Porthmadog and out of the country.

At Porthmadog itself, further arrests took place, with five security officers in charge of radioactivty dedection equipment detained, and two later released.

Quinntonia

14-12-2003, 00:41

Rear Admiral William Hutt has his pilot put down on the obviously marked helipad on the ship he was directed to. He handcuffs the attache case to his wrist as he gets out of the chopper. (I am assuming that he has a lot of firepower aimed at him) He gets out with his hands holding the silver attache case in the air and does a slow spin to show that he is not armed. The pilot stays in the chopper. He then walks towards the welcoming delegation with a strained smile. He then knelt down in order to punch the digital code into the apperant lock on the attache case. Beads of sweat gather on his forehead as he struggles to maintain his composure.
WWJD
Amen.

Beth Gellert

14-12-2003, 05:21

CS Engels, BGEF, in the eastern Yellow Sea

Comrade Admiral Nicholas Edwards crossed the flight-deck of the Jonathan Netanyahu Class trimaran aircraft-carrier late enough that he was forced to quicken step as the Quinntonian helicopter came in to land on his path to the bridge.

Edwards was a navy man, and almost always insisted on taking launches from ship to ship, even when helicopters where available. In truth he didn't quite like the frequency of news reports on helicopter crashes.

After the briefest of consultations with the ship's captain, the Admiral made his way back out to meet the arriving Quinntonian Rear Admiral.

Flanked by two AKS-74-toting People's Commonwealth Marines he advanced a few steps from the carrier's assembled welcoming party, an easy confidence about him. Indeed considering the situation most of the Beth Gellens appeared farily relaxed, though not quite to an unprofessional degree.

Edwards introduced himself without so much as a twitch towards saluting, for comrade Nicholas was a genuine communist officer.

Quinntonia

14-12-2003, 09:29

Rear Admiral william Hutt smiles and says, " May God Bless You all on this glorious day. I am honored to be entrusted by the Spirit to present you with this gift on behalf of the Quinntonian people." He takes out of the attache case a solid-gold covered Bible encrusted with gemstones and engraved with platinum ink. The highest gift a Quinntonian diplomat can give. "I also come with this important annoncement on behalf of my Prime Minister Jesse son of Obed. The legal naval blockade of Dra-pol waters will cease as of today. We are giving orders to the entire fleet to move into international waters and also into defensive positions around vital Quinntonian Dra-pol trade-routes. We also are asking that your glorious nation host a series of peace-talks between the Coalition and Dra-pol. By the glory and grace of God, I humbly ask this of you. You may have your government answer my government through more formal means. I ask only that you allow your fleet 36 hours of stand-by, which the Quinntonian fleet will use to withdraw from your path and do this in a grand act of goodwill, showing our ultimate intentions for peace. The reason I ask for this time is only that I do not want any unfortunate 'accidents' that this many ships passing this close to each other most certainly will have. (Not to mention itchy trigger fingers on both sides) Please allow us to do this for peace and the greater glory of Jesus, The Christ."
WWJD
Amen.

Dra-pol

17-12-2003, 04:33

ooc:Sorry for my quiet of late. Bit low on inspiration. I am supposing that the lull reflects the relative calm across Dra-pol.

A few reports will be floating about regarding the surprising sustainability of the Drapoel economy, and associated military spending. "Wages" -such as they are- across Dra-pol have finally been increased fractionally, boosting Hotan and Koshiako's popularity even further.

Dra-pol

18-12-2003, 06:17

As negotiations towards a more secure temporary peace (if that is other than an oxymoron) rumble slowly onwards, Secretary Hotan employs all of his diplomatic skill at home. It is all he can do to dissuade his deputies from attacking Hamhung once more, now that it is apparent that Dra-pol's economy is sustainable.

Delaying them by insisting that the armed forces are not as ready as they might be given increasing means is sufficient for now, but hardly a solution, in fact quite the reverse.

Still, the artillery shells turned out, tanks rolled in from East Islandian-based plants, and work continued on ground attack aircraft, as missile tests tore up the Japanese sky.

(ooc:I'm struggling to decide exactly what inspires Hotan to hold off- I might need to concoct some sort of benefit to the nation or at least to Hotan in order to justify it.. I would just throw everything into it and keep fighting until we liberated Hamhung, no matter what the (significant) cost, but that would require weeks more heavy commitment to the thread from the likes of Quinntonia, when in many respects it has run its course. If anyone's struck by a bright idea, feel free to offer it up.
Oh, feel free likewise to keep an eye on the republic, as it were- the thread)

18-12-2003, 07:49

[/b]4:55 AM, Atlantic time.
Location: The Wreck of the titanic
[/b]

Cpt Morgan: Alright men. Remember, dont touch ANYTHING!

Explorer 1: Aye aye sir.

Explorer 2: Roger

As the 3 explorers venture deeper into the titanic, a loud rumbling noise is heard and felt

Explorer 1: Whoa what was that!

Explorer 2: Holy Shit!

Cpt. Morgan: Nothing to be afraid of men, just a little bit of rumbling.

Explorer 1: Right...

At that moment, another loud rumbling noise is heard and felt

Explorer 2: Uh...Can we leave now?

Cpt Morgan: No, we are going deeper, follow me.

As the captian goes into the ship, it seems the entire ocean rumbles, and a hole in the sand appears, the titanic along with the captian are swallowed up

Explorer 1: HOLY SHIT IM GETTING OUT OF HERE!!! AHHH!!

Explorer 2: WRONG WAY, STOP!

Explorer 1: I DONT CARE, IM GETTING THE FU-

Before the explorer finishes his sentence, a giant burst of liquid magma explodes from where the titanic sat, scorching the settler underwater immediatly, and badly burning the 2nd one

Explorer 2: Must....get....to.....shore.....ugh...

Last thing the explorer sees is a large mountian rising out of the water upwards. Back on the mainland, scientists predict a large volcanic eruption in the middle of nowhere in the atlantic ocean, they predict that the hardened magma will form an island as large as Iceland. They also predict that a cloud of smoke will engulf almost all the atlantic, parts of europe, asia, and north america. Gas masks are on high demand.

Quinntonia

18-12-2003, 21:52

19-12-2003, 12:40

what a spammer :evil:

Beth Gellert

21-12-2003, 08:48

(OOC:Bit of a delay there.. I suppose we can consider that the 36hrs passed without much event, and the blockade withdrew peacefully. The Admiral politely accepting the Bible and relaying to Portmeirion the request for BG-hosted peace talks.)

In the Yellow Sea, the BGEF finally restarted her troubled progress, the Drapoel coastline creeping into view east as the capitalist fleets faded from view to the south. Soon it was hoped to establish a lasting consulate in the CPRD.

[b]People's Commonwealth Final Senate, Portmeirion, Beth Gellert[b]

While comrade Graeme Igo may have been voicing early reservation over inviting Christian capitalists into Beth Gellert and treating them "as if they were a civilised and rational people", most were in agreement- there could be little harm in it.

After all, the anti-imperialist position strengthened by the day, and clearly it would be the Crusaders who were most likely to be requiring of defensive footings. Igo was eventually satisfied by the idea that he might have something to hold over the cappies.

It was announced that Beth Gellert was willing to host a meeting for all concerned parties in the Drapoel crisis. Progress was needed after two or three years of stalemated conflict.

Quinntonia

23-12-2003, 03:47

The Commander of the Pacific Fleet, William Hutt orders the full withdrawl of the Quinntonian Dra-pol contingent to international waters, except for Mark Battle Group, who stays in the immediate Quinntonian Dra-pol waters under the command of Rear Admiral Hutt's older brother, Commadore Douglas Hutt. These stay in a defensive position along with an unknown amount of sub-surface assets.
The rest of the fleet does stay in the area, some shadowing incoming or outgoing vesels and most just maintaing a respectful, diplomatic but easily used position. No major Quintonian assets leave the region.
The parliament back home will decide if and when the rest of the assets leave the area, unitl then, they will stay close, and on their gaurd.
WWJD
Amen.

23-12-2003, 10:00

24-12-2003, 15:11

Admiral Gaechao of the PRD (People's Resistance of Dra-pol) on a secure line with one of his wolf pack commanders.

Capt Park reinstitute the submarine blockade of Dra-pol's western coast. No warnings and no survivors

Yes Sir!!

Within 36 hours several deasel submarines leave to blockade stations on the Dra-pol western coast. A message is sent to the BG battle group (I believe you are in the northern portion of the Yellow Sea where this blockade is north of the Dra-poll land border) The message is routed through the HBF Carrier Battle Group still on station in the south Yellow Sea off the Dra-pol coast.

A submarine blockade has been reinstituted against the oppressive regime of Dra-pol. Your CBG has a safe conduct garunteed by the People's Resistance as you continue in your negotiations. This blockade is being restarted due to the Dra-pol interference in humanitarian efforts directed at the people of Quinntonian Dra-pol. We fail to see the national threat to Dra-pol of providing aid to war orphans and are reacting, we feel, in a very restrained manner towards this renewed war on children by the Dra-pol.

24-12-2003, 15:25

North of the South Dalanien DMZ

Having sent the latest batch of naval recruits coastward and despatched the wagon on it sway north, the Commander gazed without any seeming emotion at the road between South Dalenia and points north in Dra-pol. Nothing seemed differnet about the road to the naked eye and that was important. The crucifix below his eye flickered ever so slightly as he heard his senior Cpl move up behind him.

now all we need is the right size convoy with the right cargo or transport

Indeed. He wasn't fond of the plan. Especially because there was too much reliance on the fact that this spot was within airstrike distance of the bases in Hamhung.

ooc you can pick a military convoy of about platoon or company size for this. end ooc

when the guarded convoy took the bend in the road explosions ripped through the trees at the front of the convoy causing fragments to whirr into the lead elements and dropping trees across the path. Thr front vehicles were immediately engaged by M249 crossfire from both sides of the road and a stocky man with dark hair stepped, almost casually, into the middle of the road and fired an RPG into the lead vehicle. His blank expression showing no emotion and the small black crucifix tatoo under his right eye flickered ever so slightly beneath the chem war mask as the cloud of fine mist, fired by Dra-pol knee mortars when the first explosions began, descended on the middle and back portions of the convoy.

using their own mustard gas against them. Well at least their people will think its their own

His hand gesture, holding up 2 fingers, was unmistakable unless you were not his cpl now reaching for the sat phone already set up near him in the woods.

ooc at least 3 similair ambushes take place within strike range of Hamhung within a hour of each other.

24-12-2003, 16:11

ooc Dra-pol, this is in response to your post about aircraft with anti shipping missiles in the air on the economy and trade thread. I think it best if the military part stay here. end ooc

The 12 Carrier Battle Groups stationed off Quinntonian Dra-pol put to sea and then turn towards the Dra-pol coast launching F14D Tomcats and the new RF-11D Archangel aircraft carrying warshot QUAAM-28 missile systems. This show of force will put 120 F14s and 120 RF-11D Archangels aloft within 100 miles of the Dra-pol air patrols. AWACS already aloft over Hamhung and the carrier based Hawkeye AWACS up over the Carriers provide command and control. The f14ds will begin firing if your aircraft close to within 75 miles(the phoenix missile system has a range of 110m and a 90% historical kill ratio inside 50 going back from present time to the 70s Check global security.org if you doubt me The RF-11Ds will close you to 35 miles and open fire will the QUAAMs if the F14s start shooting. I list ranges because both of these aircraft outrange your fighter's weapon systems by a sizable %.)

24 E-6b Prowler EW aircraft begin sending jamming emmissions in the direction of the J-10s and SAM batteries detected even though the F14s and RF-11d aircraft are trying to maintain an altitude above SAM effective range.

48 S-3 Vikings equipped with Harpoons take to the air after the F-14s and RD-11s launch. 12 more Vikings equipped in a air tanking capacity begin launching to refuel the aloft aircraft as needed.

The RF-11Ds we bought

Raysian Aerospace RF-11D "Archangel"

Specifications:
Classification: The Ultimate Multirole
Crew: 2
Wing Span: 35.84 ft (11.20 m)
Length: 49.63 ft (15.51 m)
Weight: 55,018 lb empty (but including QAAM launchers and standard load) / 83,122 lb max. take off
Powerplant: 2 Vectored-Thrust REPH-1100 Pulse-Det Hybrids
Max Normal thrust: 25,000 lbs
Max plus afterburner: 30,000 lbs
Pulse Detonation: adds 7,500 lbs

Aux Power: Two Raysian Aero Aux. Pulse-Det "Blaster" pods, each outputting an additional 15,000 lbs of force (for STO and quick accelleration)
Maximum speed (with only QAAMs onboard, full fuel, and all engines and boosters at full, and flying at 30,000 feet): Mach 3.5
Cruising speed: Mach 1.15
Range: 2,400 km / 1,500 miles
Service Ceiling: 69,000 ft
g limits: +13, -9 (So be careful!) Automatic Safeties prevent the plane from pulling unsafe g-forces and harming the pilot.
Airframe can stand up to 15gs
Armament: One GSh-30-1 30mm cannon on the nose, One Raysia Arms FC-216 Flak Cannon mounted dorsally (35 ammo), 2 QAAM reloaders (with 6 QAAM-28s in each, for standard load), plus up to 22,000 lbs of payload over 8 hardpoints.

Unique Features: The turret mounted Flak Cannon with 35 ammo, Quad-rudders/tails, 3D thrust vectoring, "Blaster" pods for STO ability, and all are Carrier capable. Radar signature easily confused for a Mig-29, and has SuperManeuverability comparable to the Su-37 or F-22. Has built in reconnaissance equipment such as a digital Camera. Missiles can fire any direction.

Computers: Advanced Autopilot to automatically land the plane on a carrier or runway in case the pilot gets knocked out or any other emergency like that, may be engaged by C&C or a wingman. The HUD is used in tandem with the "VisorScreens," which is a display projected onto the Visor of the Pilot's helmet, and uses a sort of compass in tandem with the computer that can allow him to see highlighted targets in any direction, even what used to be a blind spot beneath him or behind him. The 'VisorScreen' does not display the Altitude, pitch, and Speed like the HUD, as most pilots found this very confusing, but the 'VisorScreen' does control the Flak Cannon's direction.

Another cool new feature of this plane is its ability to interact with and control up to 2 UCAV wingmen from the Navigator's seat... something that can come in handy in situations where jamming is heavy and the UCAVs can't be controlled by long distance.

On bases outside Hamhung

As B-1b, F23 Spirit Walker fighters, F14d tomcats, F15E strike Eagles,and the new RF-11D Archangels begin preflight, Capt Horsts company races to the waiting choppers. His unit is but a small part of the organized chaos going on around him as AH-1 Cobra attack helocopters begin warming up as well. Little does he know that it all began with a phone call..

Oh, and Merry Christmas from Happy Santa :D

Dra-pol

25-12-2003, 03:44

Secretary Hotan makes an address to the world, specifically the HBF, in which he states that attacks against the CPRD and aggressive posturing, maritime and airborn, will cease within one hour of said address.

If they do not, Hamhung and everyone there in will be dead before a second hour has expired. From there on no citizen of HBF or any of the other imperialists terrorising Dra-pol will be safe anywhere on earth.

CS-400 SAMs centred around fortress Kanggye and in the northern highlands track targets hundreds of kilometres away, caring little for their efforts to reach altitude beyond that attainable by the long-range systems. Many more interceptors fitted out for BVR air to air combat are scrambled across the republic with AA-12, PL-11A and PL-12 missiles readied, and lasers acquire targets across the Westgaard line, while thousands of artillery chambers long directed into the city are loaded.

Inside Hamhung, thousands of loyalists, still surprised to have been so little checked since before the Westgaard line began construction, nervously ready themselves for the worst. They have few gasmasks, unless given them by their colonial faux-masters.

(ooc:I assume massive local labour was needed to construct the line, being as it is just about the biggest engineering project since the Death Star?)

Dra-pol has lost over two million of its sons and daughters to the Crusaders and their running dogs, and the republic is clearly not about to suffer the expectations of the likes of the HBF. The Crusaders will back down, or millions more will die, and the Crusaders will be driven out. This is the way of the embattled republic.

Quinntonia

25-12-2003, 06:46

I will post later, Jees, guys it's friggin' Christmas.
WWJD
Amen.

25-12-2003, 06:53

ooc: *sits back and watches my RF-11s prepare for action* Always gotta love seein my lil' kiddies playin with their food ;)

Merry Christmas :)

Quinntonia

25-12-2003, 19:56

Governer Bishop Gerald Westgaard makes an official address asking the HBF government to maintain a less agressive posture during this season of peace on earth and goodwill towards ALL MEN. Even the Dra-poel.
He also implores (I'm assuming that no one "officially" knows that the resistance is completely funded by HBF) the resistors in and around Dra-pol to agree to a cease-fire and give the peace process a chance to work, at least over the holiday season. And, he utterly condemns the blockade of Dra-pol, reminding all who are listening that The Coalition has officially moved all its fleets into international waters and lifted their legal blockade of Dra-pol.
This sentiment is echoed by the Prime minister of Quinntonia, Jesse son of Obed in his annual Christmas address to the people. He also called on BG and Dra-pol to commit to a date for face-to-face peace talks. (perhaps we can start another thread just for that purpose?)
The Quinntonian and Quinntonian Dra-pol news stations had as their top human interest stories a wondeful story of the gift that the Quinntonian people gave to the besieged Qionntonian Dra-pol citisens; every family was given a Christmas feast, with the local military, government officials and hundreds of thousands of volounteers from Quinntonia serving their fellow men. The Quinntonian people had been raising private funds for this ambitious project and the government, though they provided the transports, had nothing to do with it, this was an effort of the combined goodwill of the peopel and churches of Quinntonia. The end cost of the feast was over $10 billion USD.
The meal was a mix of traditional Quinnntonian fare, with turkey, goose, ham, stuffing, potatoes, cranberry sauce, etc. mixed with more Dra-poel fare, duck, rices, etc. It was not an easy thing, feeding almost 600 million people, but it was done as a giant Christmas gift from Quinntonia to their brothers and sisters in Quinntonian Dra-pol.
Praise God on this most Holy day, and blessings be unto you all.
WWJD
Amen.

26-12-2003, 03:50

(ooc:I assume massive local labour was needed to construct the line, being as it is just about the biggest engineering project since the Death Star?)

ooc:Ya know what happens when you assume. All my stuff outside Hamhung, including my defenses, were built by the Seabees that I did post bringing over early on. I have well over 10,000 of them alone among my ground forces.

Anyway:
ic

***************HBF News**********************************

The Premier of Happy Baseball Fans

This day is a sad day for those who would defend others right to merely exist. The nation of Dra-pol has repeatedly taken war mongering, aggressive and genocidial actions towards Quinntonian Dra-pol to the point of threatening peaceful nations who would merely like to provide aid. This is unnacceptable.

Even at the height of our blackade, we allowed humaniterian aid to flow to the citizens of Dra-pol. The evil Dra-pol regime has not seen fit to reciprocate as regards the millions of innocents in Quinntonian Dra-pol. This reveals the true intentions of the evil empire of Dra-pol towards innocent civilians, not just in Quinntonian Dra-pol, but freedom loving innocents everywhere.

We are aware of no blockade currently in force in Dra-pol and challenge the Dra-pol empire to follow suit as regards the nations willing to support Quinntonian Dra-pol with humanitarian aid. As we have had a long time to prepare superior defenses in Quinntonian Dra-pol,have almost 300,000 ground troops currently deployed, have the Air Slammer technology in place to clear the skies of Dra-pol aircraft should they venture near plus a 10-1 numerical superiority in advanced combat aircraft, The ability to absolutely seal the waterways off Dra-pols coast, and abilities to frightening and/or classified to mention -

I highly encourage Secretary Hotan to back down from his threats and remove his aircraft deployments against the humanitarian aid to Quinntonian Dra-pol. On this point we will not back down as we demonstrated our defensive abilities in Poyyongyang against massive odds and our love of all people in our removal from Poyyongyang and the blockade. I have given orders to our military to engage Dra-pol forces who attempt to interfere with any shipments air, land, or sea bound for Quinntonian Dra-pol without warning and without ceasing.

The next three hours on HBF News is dedicated to a documentary on the creation, emergence and current readiness of HBF SSBN fleet. One full hour in devoted to the D-5 ICBMs carried by the sub and the effects of a blast of even 1 of the 5 MRV warheads each missile carries. Each sub is believed to be armed with 36 such missiles.

ooc about the sub bloackade by the resistance.
1. As it is submerged; it isn't readily known about especially since no ships have come up "missing"
2. Unless the Beth Gellens tell you, you don't know about it. They were they were only ones we told.

Dra-pol

26-12-2003, 05:42

ooc: All right. It is time to finish with this. It has more than run its course. The only reason Dra-pol did not over-run Hamhung a long time ago is that Quinntonia expressed similar feelings to the ones I'm now having- that we'd had a good few ..hundred posts worth of fighting and mass slaughter played out, and there was only so much to be had from repeating it. It must be clear that the character of the Drapoel people is in complete contrast with the restraint shown so far- I couldn't attack HBF because that would mean Quinntonia had to be heavily involved for a long time.

I'm tempted to say that alright, we've blasted the hell out of Hamhung, done and dusted, lets move on.

Hamhung really is in a worse position than anyone seems to accept. Static defences really aren't that great in modern warfare, and there is simply too little room for you to fight back properly. We need only be winning briefly early on to have won entirely. The Drapoel artillery barrage would completely destroy in minutes any plan of action that may exist for QDP-based forces, the walls of infantry would far surpass anything that has ever been seen before in history or Tolkien and I can't think of any way to stop them short of a lot of nukes that would also take out QDP and certainly bring down a number of international alliances and such on the Crusaders.
There are plenty of more specific things I could point out- Dra-pol is absolutely littered with little airstrips in the forests used to launch the fighters and small strike planes our entire airforce is comprised of- as a result Dra-pol can put massive airwings up at once, while the Crusaders have far less strips available. Given the distances involved, most of your aircraft would be destroyed on the ground, while shore based weapons and further aircraft made that naval presence look like a pretty bad idea.

The thing is I don't see the point in RPing that, really.

Either we can agree as Quinntonia and I were heading towards that there be a long term cease fire with the withdrawl of prohibitively expensive forces from the area, or we can consider that everyone in Hamhung is now dead, and I can write a retrospective account of the slaughter for the history books.

Dra-pol's character is being eaten away by ooc restraints, and if it comes down to it, I will nuke Quinntonian Dra-pol as Kurosian would have sought to, and move on.

26-12-2003, 22:57

ooc: Ok. I disagree with you on more points than I can readily count, but we do agree on what I consider the main point and that is:

putting this to bed is probably for the best.

I think you've kind of figured out where my national character comes from and I think you know that I'm showing a lot of restraint as well. I think it best that you and Quinntonia figure this out and short of acts of war against HBF forces in the area; I will stay out of it.

Dra-pol

27-12-2003, 07:45

Quinntonia

28-12-2003, 01:28

OOC- All, right, let's put this to rest. I've been asking for that for months in RL anyways. I've come up with an idea, let's bat it around. We will remove assets and allow Quinntonian Dra-pol to exist much as it is now. This will be vey interesting and this is how it would look. It would look very much like the armed forces bases in Cuba, Quinntonian territory sorrounded by foriegn powers. It would exist much like Berlin circa the hieght of the cold war.
We can argue the outcome of a military conflict until we are blue in the face. But here is the skinny. It would not be as easy to take Quinntonian Dra-pol as you think it is. HOWEVER, I'LL SAY IT ONCE AND FOR ALL-QUINNTONIAN DRA-POL WOULD FALL! It might take longer than anticipated, and would cause probably tens of millions in casualties before it is all said and done, but I would lose. I've known that since Raysia pulled out. But, the national character of Quinntonia is such that they would never give up, and would fight and die to the last man.
Yes, NS gets another piontless slaughter. No, Dra-pol wouldn't exactly emerge unscathed, but I say agoin, in the end, we would fall. It is just inevitable. We are outnumbered and sorrounded. But, this thread will last for months and months more if an attack is launched, as one failed attempt to oust Hotan after another was launched, effectively ruining any of our chances to RP in any other capacity.
I have been kept out of a lot of other RPs becuase of the huge troop commitment here. *I'm sure Dra-pol himself would like to start to explore other aspects of his creation other than some endless war with Quinntonian and friends. Let's put a stop to it, realistically and with as muchskill and grace that you have all exhibited on this thread from the beginning.
WWJD
Amen.

Beth Gellert

28-12-2003, 12:13

(ooc:Sounds about right. If the heavy fighting started again while the BGEF was between remaining coalition assets on the west and the Drapoel coast BG would be drawn in and.. well I don't want to bankrupt my nation or suffer our first major casualties, and I'm sure no one wants to fight 1.5billion screaming communists with a seventy odd trillion dollar economy behind them ;) )

The infamous comrade Graeme Igo had much to say on the matter- Being aware how close they may be to a major conflict, Beth Gellens may be willing to suffer lesser inconvenience in order to avert such.

Id est we may be willing to commit some manner of security personnel who would be relatively trustworthy in Drapoel eyes, but less confrontational than the Drapoel in Christian eyes (BG's largest ever war ended after a couple of weeks with about a hundred odd times less casualties than this war).

We might also serve to appease Dra-pol to some extent with economic means.. of course the People's Republic can not be expected to happily relinquish a major population centre on fertile land that also happens to be an international port into which trade is likely to flow. While The People's Commonwealth would not wish to meddle with the rural fashion of Drapoel economics it would be possible to invest technologies and resources in building an opposite to Hamhung, either on the Asian side or closer to Hamhung itself -what capitalist could complain of a little competition?

28-12-2003, 14:52

ooc: The idea that Dra-pol could be even slightly worried about loosing is really absurd, given that we A)will always outnumber the enemy, B)will always have the greater motivation for victory, C)surround the enemy, D)have a better funded military than the enemy, and so E)outgun the outnumbered and surrounded enemy, with our more desperately motivated and popularly supported troops, and F)will have better intelligence on and understanding of their largely infiltrated and (relative to Dra-pol) open foe.

Oh, one other thing.. I still don't quite get this HBF resistance thing. What the heck is that? Who is it? I know there were a handful of HBF soldiers still on the ground around Pyongyang.. but they're absolutely screwed tens, even hundreds of kilometres away from friendly assets in one of the most militarised nations on earth. They'd have to start attacking collective farms for food, and well, each time they do they'd be risking death or capture at the hands of omnipresent collective militias, and leading the authorities closer too them.

ooc since we are making points. Point A has been true only on the ground for the majority of this. Remember that only until after the emergence of Kangye did your airforce blossom. Until then, I (and Quinntonia) basically did whatever we wanted in the air.

How rapidly would North Korea have developed militarily if the US and South Korea had taken and maintained total air supremacy and actively pursued a naval blockade?

Point B, D, E,and maybe F I will disagree with all day long.

B on motivation because of the history between Quinntonia and HBF and also because once your forces go over on the offensive; your rank and file aren't fighting for their homes anymore. They become invaders and most will know the difference. Hello desertions and morale drops.

D - Funding. Totally wrong. My economy is just as frightening as yours and I've been around a month (NS time) longer than you have and have never been attacked inside my home borders or had my infrastructure affected. I have always gone high, modern tech with the principle that fewer, better equipped, better trained and supplied soldiers are better off in an AirLand battle environment than masses of screaming civilians. This point, I think is more responsible than any other for the survival of the less than 800K HBF total force commitment for most of the conflict.

E- Outgun. See above. You were using WWII tech to begin this. While you have grown considerably in tech level, which makes for a better rp, the "outgun" piece is certainly overstated when you consider air assets and the nearby naval forces especially.

How long did US forces stand off the Chicoms by using superior technology and firepower from air, land, and sea after the initial assaults?
Mass attacks against massed modern firepower leads to massive casualty counts, not military success. I liken the hanhung scenario to almost WW I levels of defensive buildup.

F Intelligence - OK. I will disagree with you the closer you make that claim as regards the fortifications my people put up, but by in large, point well made.

As to the PRD (People's Resistance of Dra-pol)

these are folks from Poyyongyang and infiltrators from when I controlled the air and coast plus some people that POJ helped smuggle across the border with S Dalenia (which we rped) I also rped the buildup and recruitment of an internal resistance on this thread(which your government's methods would foster) with no response. That is usually (in RL) how a popular resistance develops in that it grows without notice and by the time its noticed, its pretty damn big. I do have people on the ground as leaders, but most of it comes from internal recruitment. I would say that the "militias" in the southwest and especially coastal areas haven't been checking in like normal or at least initially with an irregular pattern (until we caught some alive and got the reporting system or got some local fetching village girls to "ply" the info out of these people :D ) for some time. Why else would I maintain an seemingly exposed CBG off the SW Dra-pol coast?

The PRD makes for some cool rp possbilities in the future.

For the record. I, for one, would love to withdraw the majority of my forces sooners rather than later. I share Quinntonia's concerns in that regard.

Dra-pol

28-12-2003, 18:55

ooc:

A- of course, but you try holding ground with helicopters and interceptors.

B- this entire conflict has been fought on Drapoel soil. The Republic still sees itself as the attacked nation, as Hamhung has been Drapoel for thousands of years. A considerable percentage of the population are loyalists, and the common soldier is still told that the rest are too -including friends and family on the other side of the Westgaard line. Your soldiers are still fighting in Dra-pol any way you look at it.

D- ah, so even though defence spending isn't listed as a priority in HBF it still surpasses Drapoel spending which is such that it contributes to malnutrition and the negation of public services development? It is worth noting that Dra-pol has a smaller percentage of its population in military service than does (poorer) North Korea, and that the North Korean military has repeatedly proven itself a largely well motivated and trained force.

E- We've got more guns than the coalition has. (Further we've got SAMs that can hit anything over the republic or half way to Beijing or Hokkaido. We've got tens of thousands of artillery pieces trained on the city of Hamhung.)

As for the resistance- no no no, I've already accepted the creation of an entire rebel state in Quinntonian Dra-pol, in which exist countless thousands of deserters. Given how much I've put into defining the massively patriotic, proud, paranoid, and defensive Drapoel character, and given how little precident there is for such a grant in NS, I think that much much more than fair on my part! I've given controll of thousands of my nation's people to its enemies. The resisters inside Dra-pol proper have long since been informed upon (how many times have I spoken about informants and Banat drives to that exact end?) and arrested and/or killed. Pyongyang was utterly deserted when HBF arrived- as said at the time it was a military town only. The population was either A)directly involved in operating and staffing the military facilities, or B)was the direct family of same. They all left long before the city was relinquished. No recruitment pool at all there. If this carries on I'm afraid all of your nations will be experiencing armed student revolts against the government leading to the foundation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Baseball Fans et cetera.

I can see that my concerns over the loss of my nation's RP flavour have been more deeply founded than I had feared :?

Quinntonia

28-12-2003, 20:30

Enough!
We all seem to want the same thing, to put the war RP to bed. Let's do it. I am starting a diplomatic function RP that I've been waiting fro BG to do fro some time, actually no, I'll give them one more day to post it. This war thread is about to end officially. The numerous other RP threads that are connected should and will be continued, but in a much more cold war way.
WWJD
Amen.

29-12-2003, 12:09

Imperial War Office, Serlin.

In a darkened room room somewhere (presumly the caretaker's office in the basement by the water cooler) two senior offices were discussing recent events in the Dra-pol area. Despite the relocation of SteamEarth to another planet via a stargate (link will appear soon), SteamEarth still had forces on Earth. "It seems that the conflict could end soon, I guess its now time to choose sides?"

"I take it we're not going to stick with Dra-pol then?"

"Depends on whose winning and has the better offer."

"Just as good really, we've already sent in the IDKs."

29-12-2003, 12:11

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Quinntonia

03-01-2004, 03:46

Hello? Anyone out there?
WWJD
Amen.

Dra-pol

05-01-2004, 00:33

I think we can consider that a cease-fire is pretty much agreed upon. After all, there’ve been no major engagements for months, and as I say, the republic would not have delayed for a moment let alone months unless it intended to delay indefinitely. This is pretty much central to my concerns over the obscuring of the whole centre of the RP, that being the Choson People’s Republic of Dra-pol.

To highlight that, consider the little triangular national flag of Dra-pol, placed at thousands of locations throughout the republic, marking collective farm boundaries, waypoints along major trails, and other significant locations and borders. You may remember reference to an incident highlighting how the Drapoel were afraid to let one of these flags stand less than perfectly upright lest they be informed upon to the Banat, and the local population suffer the consequences. These days Dra-pol feels and is treated more like North Korea without the nuclear threat. It’s just not the case. In this society traitors have a million to one chance of contacting others, reaching the outside, escaping, or taking related action without being informed upon and immediately killed. Potential traitors have no reason to turn knowing so little as they do of the outside, and speaking as they do absolutely no foreign languages. It’s well enough known that the outside world has no full understanding of Drapoel, we’ve never taught anyone fluency and almost all communication has been carried out by a tiny handful of the most trusted high-ups in Drapoel society privileged enough to learn basic English. In fact on his visit to China the Quinntonians killed the most fluent English speaking Drapoel ever.

In short Dra-pol is now going to get back to its roots and anyone who tries to stop it is going to be mentioned in the Oxford English Dictionary definition of the new phrase, “to ‘get Drapoel on a motherf..’”, well you see where I’m going with that.
Dra-pol is to be unique. Closed. The world knows of us now, and so we shall have to show them a face. To the world Dra-pol shall be Kosong (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110621&highlight=). Essentially the end result of the three..four..five months of Quinntonia/Dra-pol RP will be these new sister cities, Hamhung and Kosong.
Now, any details need working out?

I’m sorry this has been dragged out so far.. I think that it was a good RP was sort of it’s main flaw.. people wanted to join but there was too much history to catch up on, and much has since been lost to forum purges, so a lot of the good early development has been lost on people.

And why exactly is the forum so thoroughly shite? It hasn’t been working reliably at any point to-day. I could understand the occassional crash at peak times perhaps, but peak times do not extend twenty-four hours a freaking day! I’ve been trying to post this for almost an hour (by the time I post it? Who knows?)

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