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The Messerschmitt Aeronautics firm presented the Luftwaffe the finished prototype for their next generation fighter aircraft. The Me-262, dubbed the Schwalbe (or Swallow) by Air Marshall Hermann Goering, is the first fighter produced for Germany to rely on revolutionary jet propulsion technology. Capable of speeds over 1200 km/h, it is far faster than any propeller-driven fighter of bomber in service. A variant of the new aircraft, the Me-262-N Seeschwalbe (Sea Swallow) is being developed for the Kriegsmarine, planned for use aboard the Graf Zeppelin and her sisters.
Speculation has been raised by many outside Messerschmitt regarding the sudden completion of the project, fully two years ahead of schedule. Germany and her allies site the technical superiority of their developers in bringing the fighter into early production, but others, particularly Briain and France, are unconvinced.

Specifications for the Me-262 can be found here (http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap11.htm). It should be noted that this version of the 262 has cruise and top speeds of 480 and 570 mph, respectively. This is because of a refined Daimler Benz DB-227 turbojet engine, based heavily off the engines found in Iansisle's "Colt" fighter. :roll:

we congratulate Germany on it's development of a jet fighter; however, we continue to believe that the era of the piston-engine isn't over yet [well, my Naga MkIIs are based on the Hawker Tempest which was described by Luftwaffe pilots as "the worst threat to the Me 262" when there were Gloster Meteors and the first P-80s shooting around, and my Dragonflies are much better, so at least until the Sabres and Vampires start rolling out my prop-driven craft won't be obsolete ;) ]

I don't believe that the piston-driven fighters will be replaced anytime soon either, due to high production costs of the DB-227 engine, development needs for the Naval variant, and training times for the pilots. The Kriegsmarine will continue using the Bf-109 as the primary fighter aircraft for some time to come. The Stuka torpedo/dive bombers will also remain in service untill a suitable replacement can be developed, which will not be soon.

...Capable...

(how ironic ;)

In any case, I agree about the prop fighters. I did introduce the highly advanced MPAF-7, but they won't be available in numbers until current tensions have subsided quite a bit. The MPAF-6 will probably continue to be the mainstay of the RIFC, backed primarily by the MPAF-5. BAF-1 and BAF-2s - as, of course my only bombers - will continue in service for quite some time.

Um, I would have an IC post, but is this common knowledge yet?)

OOC- Yep. The Me-262 was released with much fanfare, and plenty of people got a chance to get their photo taken with the new fighter serving as the backdrop. It also flew over the parade grounds outside the former Reichstagg (much like the MiG-15 in the Soviet May Day parade), so everyone got to see it in flight as well.
On the ground, the jets were under armed guard by soldiers of the SS Adolf Hitler Division. Just so no one decides to take the flight yoke home as a souvenir. :lol:

In most of Iansisle, the news of a new German deployment was ignored by the masses of the working class. Iansisle's unofficial 'war' with Germany was not yet commonly known - most assumed that the two countries were sailing along as well as possible.

However, government officials met the anouncment with no small amount of dispair. The Admiralty was in disgrace - it had allowed the Henderson turbojets to fall into a possible enemy's hands.

In the meantime, the Flying Corps subtly increased its budget for new flyers, putting in a modest order for more MPAF-6s while the MPAF-7 was being developed and tested in Lakeriverwood.

OOC- Yeah, sorry about that. I'm sure you'll make it up to me soon.

OOC- Yeah, sorry about that. I'm sure you'll make it up to me soon.

(OH! I will ;))

Ooh, I missed this. Selective reading, I suppose. WoS could do without this. The damn thing's nearly 200mph faster than our latest fighter, the MFMkIII Nexus.

That little exhange has reminded me however that I should be trying to crack Enigma by now. That'd be so useful if we got it before the fall of France, but I think I've left it a bit late.

Ah well, must eat. Back shortly.

My MiG-29s are better then your Me-262s.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/mig-29-992083a.jpg

My Su-37MK's are better than your MiG-29's
http://www.aeronautics.ru/sukhoi/su34004.jpg

The AF-100 will be better than your Su-37MK :)

The AF-100 will be better than your Su-37MK :)
THe MiG-43 will be better than the AF-100 [and it will be my light multifunctional fighter, sorta like JSF]
http://www.aeronautics.ru/nws001/lfi002.jpg

Maybe not... but it will be cheaper! :D


Too bad MiG-49 Fallout is a land based fighter... its better than AF-100.

The AF-100 will have an Air Force variant. And several other variants.


Plus, how can you use the MiG name unless you own the MiG company?

The AF-100 will have an Air Force variant. And several other variants.


Plus, how can you use the MiG name unless you own the MiG company?
Who cares? :roll:

I have MiG-41's, MiG-37's, so on.

(Dudez! My MPAF-7 kuld roxz ur Migz sox!

:roll: )

While the Air Forces are disturbed by these developments from a potential enemy, they are confident the R40 Razor and R63 Phoenix can handle the new craft quite elegantly. We fear not the developments of the Luftwaffe! We have risen to, and the time for the strike ((on Vichy France)) is soon to come!

[((Propoganda))]

Der Kriegsmarine's nation is a lot less ignored than all y'all's!!!!11!!!11!1

Wheres that thread hijacked pic? :wink:

The Rogue Nation of Wardome wishes to have 100 of these new fighters immediately for development purposes. We are willing to pay as much as necessary. We are a fledgling nation in need of the newest and latest weaponry. Your jet fighter looks satisfying, and we wish to do business with you in the future.

Signed,
The Stupendous King and Tyrant
Robert Slawter IV

Calarca is gonna be asking for jet engines from Iansisle and Walmington in the tea at WoS thread, fit them to our homebuilt fighter prototype thats just sitting there without an engine.

For specs, do a google search for Yak-23. it's a Yak-3 piston fighter with a jet nose mounted so it exhausts under the belly of the plane.

The Rogue Nation of Wardome wishes to have 100 of these new fighters immediately for development purposes. We are willing to pay as much as necessary. We are a fledgling nation in need of the newest and latest weaponry. Your jet fighter looks satisfying, and we wish to do business with you in the future.

Signed,
The Stupendous King and Tyrant
Robert Slawter IV

This is a roleplay thread, not a shop thread. we're in a war, (WW2) where WoS, DK, Iansisle and I, with other supporting players such as BataviaSSR and Spencertopia joining in.

You always staying in 1945/1946 or are you gonna advance through the cold war stages?

I'm actually 2010ish normally, I'm playing here in the premise it's my nations history rather than present.
I presume you are actually refering to WoS/Iansisle They seem to just plain prefer the days when "Gunboat Diplomacy" actually involved gunboats.

OOC: The Me-262 though, wasn't that much of a success. Partly because it was so fast that it could only get a few shots into the Allied planes before passing them by, and it was particularly weak going into turns, since it slowed down significantly. Mostly the tactics were to strap rockets to them, launch them at the Allied formations, then run away again. Effective in its own little way, but not enough to make a significant difference to the war.

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OOC:Sorry i left my pc at work alone an sum bastard hijacked it. I belive this is not the first time this has happened and i aplolgize to all offended.

I'd like to purchase 4 Me-262's for my museums

(hey, IH, apparently some people do, including myself. :? So how about you just bug off, eh?

Freedom Country, I can't speak for WoS, but Iansisle is planning on advancing well through the Cold War (which has nothing on the Great Game, if you ask me) into the near-future. A definate time table hasn't been established, though.

Calarca, Iansisle would needless to say be a little hesitant about selling jet engines to our oldest imperial rival. You could just bypass the government, of course, and go straight to Henderson (the company which manufactures most jet engines produced in the Commonwealth).

NO ONE GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THIS OUTDATED RUST BUCKET.
Hey! I have 3,000 MiG-15's as my light ground attack... they have 1 GAU-8 cannon.

Cannon fodder.

I, for one, don't intend on going past WWII myself. As for the Me-262 being ineffective, it was mostly the engines that held it back. The engines used in this version of the 262 are much more reliable, since they're based on a proven design. Granted that the great difference in speed would call for a change in fighter doctorine, but the 262 is not replacing the Bf-109; they are simply the next step, but they still need development work. I'm just saying that I made the design public.

We'll have 5 for our historical displays.

We use F16E/Fs, but ME262 were deadly for their time. Four 20mm cannon make a real mess of their targets.

Calarca has flown it's latest fighter prototype and in entering the pre-production tooling and factory equipping stage. The Aeroflyer, Combat, Model 5. C-5 "Cyclone" Fighter is powered by a 2700Hp de-tuned version of the latest 3500Hp R-4360 engine.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/engines/eng34a-1.jpg

This gives our C-5 Fighter a maximum speed of 648Km/Hr

http://www.steelrat.com/assets/smla51.jpg
http://www.steelrat.com/assets/La5_2.jpg
Length: 36ft. 4in.
Height: 15ft. 1in
Wing Span: 47ft. 0in.
Empty Weight: 7,723 lbs.
Gross weight: 10,159 lbs.
Performance:
Maximum Speed: 648Kph
Cruising Speed: 546Kph
Ceiling: 35,200 ft.
Range: 678 miles
Pwerplant: One 2700Hp R-4360 28Cyl radial
Armament: Four 20mm ShVAK Cannon in wing & two 20mm ShVAK Cannon in fuselage.