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Z-space technology

Bob the 3ed
31-08-2003, 06:55
This technology will allow those who have it to travel faster then light by going to Z-space (Z-space is nothingness. It is an alternate universe (for lack of a better term) where there is no matter or energy. The normal laws of science do not apply there, and each point in Z-Space has a corresponding point in this universe. By traveling a short (or long) distance in Z-Space, you can exit at a point in our universe that is much farther from your entrance point than you travelled in Z-space.) it takes the about amount of power emitted by a mid-size main sequence star to enter Z-space and again to leave. It moves a lot.

OOC: post what you think
Klonor
31-08-2003, 07:02
Is that from the Animorphs book series?

And good job, people don't usually tell how their ships go FTL, just that they do.
Sambizie
31-08-2003, 07:03
Most space nations have FTL drives, warp drives, "slip" drives..ect. Though each is differnt, in respects to the use of matter-anti-mater, nuclear, and ionic thrust, what ecactly is Z-space? How is it different that "bending" space such as in a warp bubble?
Bob the 3ed
31-08-2003, 07:04
Is that from the Animorphs book series?

And good job, people don't usually tell how their ships go FTL, just that they do.

yes it is.

thx
Bob the 3ed
31-08-2003, 07:06
Most space nations have FTL drives, warp drives, "slip" drives..ect. Though each is differnt, in respects to the use of matter-anti-mater, nuclear, and ionic thrust, what ecactly is Z-space? How is it different that "bending" space such as in a warp bubble?

if i can find the book with that in it then i'll tell you
Klonor
31-08-2003, 07:07
Very sad thing, I have been able to identify where every bit of FTL tech on this site has come from. I really need to get a life.
Klonor
31-08-2003, 07:10
Z-space is nothingness. It is an alternate universe (for lack of a better term) where there is no matter or energy. The normal laws of science do not apply there, and each point in Z-Space has a corresponding point in this universe. By traveling a short (or long) distance in Z-Space, you can exit at a point in our universe that is much farther from your entrance point than you travelled in Z-space.
Bob the 3ed
31-08-2003, 07:12
Z-space is nothingness. It is an alternate universe (for lack of a better term) where there is no matter or energy. The normal laws of science do not apply there, and each point in Z-Space has a corresponding point in this universe. By traveling a short (or long) distance in Z-Space, you can exit at a point in our universe that is much farther from your entrance point than you travelled in Z-space.

thx now i can explan it to others
Sambizie
31-08-2003, 07:17
Z-space is nothingness. It is an alternate universe (for lack of a better term) where there is no matter or energy. The normal laws of science do not apply there, and each point in Z-Space has a corresponding point in this universe. By traveling a short (or long) distance in Z-Space, you can exit at a point in our universe that is much farther from your entrance point than you travelled in Z-space.

So it is somewhat of an anomoly like a "wormhole"? How do you "thrust" into Z-space...warp bubble?
31-08-2003, 07:27
Z-space is nothingness. It is an alternate universe (for lack of a better term) where there is no matter or energy. The normal laws of science do not apply there, and each point in Z-Space has a corresponding point in this universe. By traveling a short (or long) distance in Z-Space, you can exit at a point in our universe that is much farther from your entrance point than you travelled in Z-space.

So it is somewhat of an anomoly like a "wormhole"? How do you "thrust" into Z-space...warp bubble?

kinda but its... i don't know
Klonor
31-08-2003, 07:28
I actually don't remember that right now, and I don't feel like searching through the 40 something books that I have of the series to find out. I do remember that it takes the amount of power emitted by a mid-size main sequence star.
Tsaraine
31-08-2003, 07:29
Hmm... sounds a bit like the Alderson drive or whatever it is, the one in The Mote in God's Eye by Niven and Pournelle.
Bob the 3ed
31-08-2003, 07:31
maby but this is all animorphs
31-08-2003, 07:35
I have never read animorphs, but I'd guess (from different series or sci fi's) that you have to concentrate a certain amount of energy in a small space fast enough to "enter" this Z-space... and again to "leave" it..
Bob the 3ed
31-08-2003, 07:37
true thats why we don't use it often
Klonor
31-08-2003, 07:39
I actually don't remember that right now, and I don't feel like searching through the 40 something books that I have of the series to find out. I do remember that it takes the amount of power emitted by a mid-size main sequence star.
Bob the 3ed
31-08-2003, 07:40
I actually don't remember that right now, and I don't feel like searching through the 40 something books that I have of the series to find out. I do remember that it takes the amount of power emitted by a mid-size main sequence star.
we know you said that
Kanuckistan
31-08-2003, 07:42
Very sad thing, I have been able to identify where every bit of FTL tech on this site has come from. I really need to get a life.

No you haven't; I invented my FTL drive, and you've seen it in action a few times. :wink: 8)
Klonor
31-08-2003, 07:42
Oh. It's just that Burnnation mentioned that you probably needed a certain amount of energy, and I thought he might have missed where I said the amount.
Klonor
31-08-2003, 07:43
Very sad thing, I have been able to identify where every bit of FTL tech on this site has come from. I really need to get a life.

No you haven't; I invented my FTL drive, and you've seen it in action a few times. :wink: 8)

I meant all FTL tech that came from something (a series, or movie, or novel, etc.)
Bob the 3ed
31-08-2003, 07:43
yes but you see i can be wrer i want when i want if i NEED to
thats why we don't use it often
Bob the 3ed
31-08-2003, 07:47
thx for your help as you talk i make it
Mutated snakes
31-08-2003, 09:12
this type of faster than light travel sounds much like how they travel in the Ender's Game sieries. Therlessness and lack of phisical laws.
Klonor
31-08-2003, 09:13
Eders Game? I've never heard of that series. Do you mean Enders Game?
Mutated snakes
31-08-2003, 09:14
yea you replyed so fast i didnt have time to change my stupid spelling.
Klonor
31-08-2003, 09:16
I do that.

And isn't it only in the last (chronologically) book that they discover FTL travel? In all the other books they use colony ships that approach, but never quite reach, the speed of light.
Mutated snakes
31-08-2003, 09:18
no it is in zenocide where they discover that they kind kind of with there way through space. there are two books after this. Children of the mind and ender's children both of which i have not yet read.
Roania
31-08-2003, 09:19
People are coming up with new FTL faster then I can modify my interdictors. I'm not happy.
Klonor
31-08-2003, 09:19
Hmmm. I'll have to check on that tomorrow
Aust
31-08-2003, 09:45
If you have it i'll get it. How much. I knew it came from Animorphs there really big in britian. The Best ones x what do you think?
Bob the 3ed
02-09-2003, 08:06
its not for sell tho if you want to join...
our Forces are at http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=63218&highlight=
the contract is thair

OOC: bump
Kormanthor
02-09-2003, 08:24
Z-space is nothingness. It is an alternate universe (for lack of a better term) where there is no matter or energy. The normal laws of science do not apply there, and each point in Z-Space has a corresponding point in this universe. By traveling a short (or long) distance in Z-Space, you can exit at a point in our universe that is much farther from your entrance point than you travelled in Z-space.


How would our technology work in that environment?
Klonor
02-09-2003, 08:25
Inside the walls of the ships is a "bubble" of natural space (They never actually explain how). There regular laws apply.
Bob the 3ed
02-09-2003, 08:28
Inside the walls of the ships is a "bubble" of natural space (They never actually explain how). There regular laws apply.
no, outside. i know that.
Klonor
02-09-2003, 08:29
What do you mean outside? So inside the ships normal space doesn't exist, and none of the laws of the universe apply?
Bob the 3ed
02-09-2003, 08:33
no the "bubble" of natural space is outside the ship so it is around the ship otherwise the hall of thr ship is gone.
Klonor
02-09-2003, 08:34
The the hull of the ship is the bubble. So, everything in the ship is in the bubble. That's what I meant.
Bob the 3ed
02-09-2003, 08:35
oh sry :(
05-11-2003, 03:24
bump