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The Sword and Sheild
01-09-2003, 07:48
From the Allied Government
To Padmasa

After recieving your request for an addition to Naval blockade, and assessing our own situation, we have diverted several major fleets. Becuase I am not always available the ships are being placed under your temporary command, we'll split it, I still command them but so do you. From my Naval Command at Corregidor the 2nd Battlegroup, the Excelsior Battlegroup, and the 7th Naval Squadron have set sail for the blockade, arrival within 5 hours. The 1st Battlegroup has been diverted from it's current mission and will arrive in 3 hours. From my naval base at Norfolk the and 4th Escort group (10 Modified Benham class destroyers, 3 Arleigh Burke class destroyers, 1 Ticonderoga (AEGIS) cruiser, 3 SSD4 submarines, 2 Pegasus class Hevy Cruiser) have left and are heading for the blockade. And finally from my Military Command at Formosa the, 12th Naval Squadron, and 9th Naval Squadron have set sail.

All Naval Squadrons(This is what each is composed of, not all of them)-
3 Pegasus class Heavy Cruisers
5 Arleigh Burke class destroyers
2 Ticonderoga (AEGIS) cruisers
3 Oliver Perry class frigates
4 AA frigates
3 Ark Royal class Light Cruisers
1 Mod-Essex class escort carrier (20 planes, most air-to-air fighters)

The 2 Battlegroups (Same for this, what both are made of)-
2 King II class anti-carrier Battleships (the 1st bg has only one, the other is being repaired and will join it in 3 rl days)
1 Prometheus class Aircraft carrier (68 planes, most Air-to-air F-14's but one flight of F-18's is aboard each)
5 Pegasus Class Heavy Cruisers (bg1 has only 3, 1 being repaired to join in 4 rl days, the other was destroyed)
10 Modified Benham class destroyers
3 Arleigh Burke class destroyers
3 Ticonderoga (AEGIS) class cruisers
6 Ark Royal class Light Cruisers
3 SSD4 (Attack sub, not missile sub) class Attack Subs

Excelsior Battlegroup -
2 Excelsior Class Battleships (full battleships, not just anti-carrier)
1 Pegasus class Heavy Cruisers
1 Promotheus class Aircraft Carrier
5 Modified Benham class destroyers
2 Arleigh Burke class destroyers
1 Ticonderoga (AEGIS) class cruisers
3 SSD4 Submarines
01-09-2003, 09:02
Any action taken against our new ally and regional member will result in the Orthanc Alliance coming forth against aggressors in open war. We warn nations to stay away from the internal affairs of the High Cabal.
Thus has spoken the voice of Saruman

Saruman the White
Lord and Keeper of the Tower of Orthanc and the Ring of Isengard


The Dark Fiefdom of Lord Saruman the White (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation)
01-09-2003, 09:37
The HighCabal is pleased to see your cowardice. We shall remain defiant and would like to assist tyranitan in any way possible that will not end up with a huge war. We are prepared to send humanitarian aid in the form of slaves and human heads. We hope that you will use these well.
The High Cabal has powerful allies as you have seen and i whole-heartedly recommend that you dont attempt anything against us or our allies.
Your puny blockade can do nothing to stop our nations as the High Cabal will lead us out of these dark times.
Dont not attempt genocide.

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua, Harbringer of Doom, Herald of the High Cabal, blessed be.
Iuthia
01-09-2003, 12:30
Iuthia has yet to have done much to the two threatened nations (1) accept condemn their actions and ban all trade from and to their nations (2). As for these threats that are going around, I suggest everyone think about what you are going to do. We called off our attack against High Cabal not because of his military power, that isn’t a problem; it was because of the possibility of killing more innocents myself as a result of crushing his military.

Instead, I have chosen another route option should this nation, or anyone allied to this nation; show themselves to be a threat to other nations then we will see to it that they are disarmed. Defending their own nations and retaliations will be acceptable and understandable, but not if war crimes are committed.

However, Iuthia is within its own right to defend any nation you may wish to harm providing the nation we wish to defend agrees. Either way, Iuthia will no longer threaten your nations sovereignty, it has long been policy not to interfere with other nations internal affairs and we will now go back to that policy.

May you tread carefully in the next few days…

Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia


(1) High Cabal and the other one.
(2) Within Iuthia, other nations can trade if they don’t have a problem with their conscience
01-09-2003, 12:48
Yet another nation gives in before the stubborn mule that is the Theocracy of the High Cabal, blessed be.

To the other nations that are against the High Cabal, blessed be: I have noticed that your nations are smaller than ours and if you attempt to take military action you will be crushed by the Orthanc Alliance.
Do not attempt genocide because if you do it will be your people who die.
Also we demand that all occupying troops leave immediatlely or we will take action. Furthermore we demand that the highest ranking officer of the occupying forces hand him/herself over and face Cabalian law for their war crimes.
If the occupying forces do not leave their souls will be purged with fire.

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua, Harbringer of Doom and Herald to the High Cabal, blessed be.
01-09-2003, 13:51
Due to the trade lines secured with The High Cabal 10 UN peacekeepers have strapped themselves to the Palaces of the High Cabal with chains since our last communication. Any bombing's made against the Peacekeeper's I will report to the UN. If there is an invasion and the Palace captured, should the peacekeeper's be killed Achlia will step in with the Cabal and Iuthia and the other nations defending against the attackers. Roughly 30 Tank's and 4000 men will be sent if and only if a peacekeeper is killed.
01-09-2003, 14:01
OOC: Would mech's be allowed in?
01-09-2003, 14:19
Iuthia has yet to have done much to the two threatened nations (1) accept condemn their actions and ban all trade from and to their nations (2). As for these threats that are going around, I suggest everyone think about what you are going to do. We called off our attack against High Cabal not because of his military power, that isn’t a problem; it was because of the possibility of killing more innocents myself as a result of crushing his military.

Instead, I have chosen another route option should this nation, or anyone allied to this nation; show themselves to be a threat to other nations then we will see to it that they are disarmed. Defending their own nations and retaliations will be acceptable and understandable, but not if war crimes are committed.

However, Iuthia is within its own right to defend any nation you may wish to harm providing the nation we wish to defend agrees. Either way, Iuthia will no longer threaten your nations sovereignty, it has long been policy not to interfere with other nations internal affairs and we will now go back to that policy.

May you tread carefully in the next few days…

Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia


(1) High Cabal and the other one.
(2) Within Iuthia, other nations can trade if they don’t have a problem with their conscience

You seem to be policing the peace. Your efforts are well honored. Our island exploding into war is not my wish.
01-09-2003, 15:24
Iuthia has yet to have done much to the two threatened nations (1) accept condemn their actions and ban all trade from and to their nations (2). As for these threats that are going around, I suggest everyone think about what you are going to do. We called off our attack against High Cabal not because of his military power, that isn’t a problem; it was because of the possibility of killing more innocents myself as a result of crushing his military.

Instead, I have chosen another route option should this nation, or anyone allied to this nation; show themselves to be a threat to other nations then we will see to it that they are disarmed. Defending their own nations and retaliations will be acceptable and understandable, but not if war crimes are committed.

However, Iuthia is within its own right to defend any nation you may wish to harm providing the nation we wish to defend agrees. Either way, Iuthia will no longer threaten your nations sovereignty, it has long been policy not to interfere with other nations internal affairs and we will now go back to that policy.

May you tread carefully in the next few days…

Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia


(1) High Cabal and the other one.
(2) Within Iuthia, other nations can trade if they don’t have a problem with their conscience

To stand in judgement against quaint and unique cultures is morally wrong, we after all do not judge your culture. Keep to yourself and we shall not bother you!
Thus has spoken the voice of Saruman

Saruman the White
Lord and Keeper of the Tower of Orthanc and the Ring of Isengard


The Dark Fiefdom of Lord Saruman the White (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation)
Padmasa
01-09-2003, 15:26
To the government of The High Cabal,
From Padmasa
Title: Not Smart!

We ask that you please stop now. You have nearly started one war and while we would be happy to oblige you in helping your sucidal urges, we are trying to free the opressed, or some such. If you start a war, we ask that you be prepared to finish it, and you will not be on the winning end if you should continue to oppose the will of several larger nations.
Iuthia
01-09-2003, 16:27
That is what I said, oh powerful Saruman. Why, are nation is unlikely to bother you if you don’t attack other nations. If you attack any of the nations here, I am perfectly within my right to come to their aid should they want it, the same right that you have to protect High Cabal.

I can judge you and your allies how I like, and others can make what they will of my nation as well. As for morally wrong? I didn’t think you and your allies had morals, you hide behind them when it is convenient for you and ignore them when they get in the way.

Well, you should be glad that I have some “morals” in this issue. If I didn’t I would of removed the High Cabal and replaced them with a Iuthian and then demanded tithes to pay for the assault. However, that would be reminiscent to the Dark Times and we haven’t been like that for over 100 years of liberated rule. Now we have to be polite and think of the humanitarian needs of High Cabal and how I can’t go in guns blazing because it would cost more lives removing the leadership then they could kill by being in power.

So heed my words Saruman, attack other nations at your peril… I’m sure your Intel will reveal that I’m no small army. However, I won’t act against defence or retaliation, unless you do bad naughty things while you’re at it. I may defend a nation who you would crush but otherwise I’m not going to get involved militarily unless someone screws up… or worse yet, attacks Iuthia.

Thus I have spoken,

Lord General deGriz, leader of Iuthia
01-09-2003, 16:47
A nation, long isolated from international affairs, has kindly decided to join us in the Malden Islands and take us under their wing.

This nation of 180 million people is involved in a defensive alliance with us, and should any rouge nation attack Tallcottian assets, at home or abroad, we will activate this alliance.
01-09-2003, 16:49
I see that yey more nation join sides with the High Cabal and yet more decide to leave your unjust war effort. Your attempts to illegally force a nation to change its customs have failed and we remain unchanged. It is not us who are mad it is you.

Once again we demand that you leave our land within the next day or risk war.

Do not attempt genocide.

Civilain Commissars continue to kill in the name of the High Cabal.

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua, Harbringer of Doom and Herald of the High Cabal
01-09-2003, 16:54
A nation, long isolated from international affairs, has kindly decided to join us in the Malden Islands and take us under their wing.

This nation of 180 million people is involved in a defensive alliance with us, and should any rouge nation attack Tallcottian assets, at home or abroad, we will activate this alliance.

The Republic of Dworniev shall do the same.
Padmasa
01-09-2003, 17:14
I see that yey more nation join sides with the High Cabal and yet more decide to leave your unjust war effort. Your attempts to illegally force a nation to change its customs have failed and we remain unchanged. It is not us who are mad it is you.

Once again we demand that you leave our land within the next day or risk war.

Do not attempt genocide.

Civilain Commissars continue to kill in the name of the High Cabal.

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua, Harbringer of Doom and Herald of the High Cabal

If you want war, the let it be war! The Dark Masters will not land the first blow, but they will dismantle your nation and end your threats, even if it should mean Genocide! Only the threats of your allies have stayed our hand. They are preparing a force of 6,000 abrams tanks, and 4 million ground troops. They will be supported by an additonal 3,000 revela class gunboats and 5,000 heavy dropships. Should you initiate any hostile actions this force will march on your capital and other stratagetic targets.
01-09-2003, 17:21
We do not want war but if you land on our land you will feel the wrath of the High Cabal and the military might of the Orthanc Alliance who are prepared to defend the Cabal.
In protest against your foolishness 100 citizens are being executed. You caused their deaths.
You have been warned

Signed the Bishop of the Icy North for the Cardinal of Sambagua who is engaged in other matters.
Iuthia
01-09-2003, 17:37
OOC: Please people, can we show some logistics for the silly number of troops being thrown around.

Oh, and The High Cabal, if I was to launch a M.I strike as desribed in earlier posts, how well do you feel you can RP the situation?

If I decide to launch a strike, I will TG you the figures and I hope we can work out any qualms before any IC actions are taken, you've roleplayed fairly well so far (almost goaded me back into the fight) and I hope that if action is taken we will be able to come out with a result which pleases us both, OOC wise of course, IC it may hurt a little.
Padmasa
01-09-2003, 17:42
As you are also deploying men or threatening to deploy men on the second front of this war, we will be forced to destroy any means you posess of fighting. If you make any more threats, or promisis of helping defend your allies, or the like, you will fall.

OOC: As to logistics, my men are not yet deployed, most are still at Padmasa, so I fell no need to lsit logistics. My dropships run off of fusion generators... which only need water to run. As for my tanks, well that's why I have to delpoy so many dropships, a constant supply line maintained by shipments from the air.
01-09-2003, 17:45
OOC: To tell everybody what I think, I bet this guy has killed almost all his men so hes not really a threat. Also, Iuthia could destroy you and everyone else in the Orthanc Alliance, even in a combined force.

IC: These actions shall not go unnoticed. We will be watching you High Cabal.
Iuthia
01-09-2003, 18:00
OOC:

I was just pointing out that you will have to plan for logistics when your thinking of moving 4 million people into a war. It's something I got told off for a while back when I spent a couple months to move 1.4 million men into Rave Shentavo for defence perposes.

The amount of supplies that a armed for needs is huge... you've got to feed them, have a contant supply of ammo and spare parts for all your vehicals and weapons...

But I'm sure it's not that much a problem... it's just that your attack could be wasted if logistics arn't taken into account, by that I mean that they could decide to ignore it.

It's just a warning, most people don't worry about it but trying to get to the point were I can act like a superpower... I've got to think on these things.
Padmasa
01-09-2003, 18:07
OOC: I know, and I was taking them into account. Each heavy dropship can haul 6300 pounds of supplies/fuel/men. I work around fast attacks, and deploying that many men as I know takes months, but most are just being use gaurd my supply lines and set up control/occupation of the areas behind my main force. My real attack will be less than 20,000 men and 1,000 tanks.

That many men are just simply there to occupy the land and then move up to support my ally in his push to Kill of Saruman the White. It will be a quick campaign followed by a long occupation where I'm hoping the local economy can help feed my men.
01-09-2003, 18:09
The Theocracy of the High Cabal has no intention of going to war with any of you but be warned that this kitten has claws (OOC which quite conveniently are very sharp) and it is prepared to metaphorically rake across the skin of an invading army.
We are preparing the serpent eating gorillas and the army of clones. The temple guard are being mobilised along with the Knights of the Order of St Clemins. The Warrior Abbots are polishing their war hammers and the Orthanc Alliance is readying its forces. The Cutuzen Levy have been brainwashed by the Civilian Commissars and have all been issued with a rifle.
You do understand that nothing but more death will come out of this war and by killing people you serve the High Cabal. Attack at you own peril.
You may kill the High Cabals servants and minions but nver the Cabal itself

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua Harbringer of Doom and Herald of the High Cabal, Speaking from the High Temple control bunker.
Langham
01-09-2003, 18:10
The Theocracy of the High Cabal has no intention of going to war with any of you but be warned that this kitten has claws (OOC which quite conveniently are very sharp) and it is prepared to metaphorically rake across the skin of an invading army.
We are preparing the serpent eating gorillas and the army of clones. The temple guard are being mobilised along with the Knights of the Order of St Clemins. The Warrior Abbots are polishing their war hammers and the Orthanc Alliance is readying its forces. The Cutuzen Levy have been brainwashed by the Civilian Commissars and have all been issued with a rifle.
You do understand that nothing but more death will come out of this war and by killing people you serve the High Cabal. Attack at you own peril.
You may kill the High Cabals servants and minions but nver the Cabal itself

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua Harbringer of Doom and Herald of the High Cabal, Speaking from the High Temple control bunker.That's it?
Padmasa
01-09-2003, 18:12
The Theocracy of the High Cabal has no intention of going to war with any of you but be warned that this kitten has claws (OOC which quite conveniently are very sharp) and it is prepared to metaphorically rake across the skin of an invading army.
We are preparing the serpent eating gorillas and the army of clones. The temple guard are being mobilised along with the Knights of the Order of St Clemins. The Warrior Abbots are polishing their war hammers and the Orthanc Alliance is readying its forces. The Cutuzen Levy have been brainwashed by the Civilian Commissars and have all been issued with a rifle.
You do understand that nothing but more death will come out of this war and by killing people you serve the High Cabal. Attack at you own peril.
You may kill the High Cabals servants and minions but nver the Cabal itself

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua Harbringer of Doom and Herald of the High Cabal, Speaking from the High Temple control bunker.

Okay, so you want me melt your whole nation down to beeded glass and go from there?
Dr_Twist
01-09-2003, 18:16
This Thread doesn't make much sense, can some 1 tell me what the hell is going on in 1 reply
Padmasa
01-09-2003, 18:21
This Thread doesn't make much sense, can some 1 tell me what the hell is going on in 1 reply


OOC:
No, I'm lost myself. From what I gather. High Cabal, caused the rest of us to get ready to go to war with him. Then he gave up and tyrniantn or whatever(sorry) started getting uppity, I blockaded him and was preparing for war. Then Saruman came in making threats which gave me that tiny little excuse I needed to help my ally in his war with him. Now High Cabal is being uppity again and I'm preparing to invade him, take the nation and move through (what were formerly) his lands to attack those of Saruman or to at least link up with the forces of my ally.
01-09-2003, 18:26
These tyrannical maniacs demand that the High Cabal change thier customs to their liking or be destroyed. They kill our citizens and threaten military action against legal acts by the Cabalian government. They are madmen gone insane with power and kill my defenceless citizens with every blockade
They know no shame and have no honour. They pick on small nations because they fear that they will someday threaten their power.

To all invading nations: Do not attempt to exterminate a race of people that are different to your own. Accept our diversity and individuality.

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua Herald of the High Cabal and Harbringer of Doom
Dr_Twist
01-09-2003, 18:31
These tyrannical maniacs demand that the High Cabal change thier customs to their liking or be destroyed. They kill our citizens and threaten military action against legal acts by the Cabalian government. They are madmen gone insane with power and kill my defenceless citizens with every blockade
They know no shame and have no honour. They pick on small nations because they fear that they will someday threaten their power.

To all invading nations: Do not attempt to exterminate a race of people that are different to your own. Accept our diversity and individuality.

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua Herald of the High Cabal and Harbringer of Doom

mmmmm interesting.

Cabinet has called a Meeting to Discuss this Issue and has Requested a Member of The High Cabal Government to Attend.
Padmasa
01-09-2003, 18:31
These tyrannical maniacs demand that the High Cabal change thier customs to their liking or be destroyed. They kill our citizens and threaten military action against legal acts by the Cabalian government. They are madmen gone insane with power and kill my defenceless citizens with every blockade
They know no shame and have no honour. They pick on small nations because they fear that they will someday threaten their power.

To all invading nations: Do not attempt to exterminate a race of people that are different to your own. Accept our diversity and individuality.

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua Herald of the High Cabal and Harbringer of Doom

I would stop with the insults, the Dark Masters ahve enough justification for war and complete destruction of The Cabal, don't add to it.
Iuthia
01-09-2003, 18:32
OOC:

Or...

The high Cabal starts everything off with the procamation that he has killed protesters who were carrying sticks and throwing rocks.

Alot of nations were offended and trade between them was stopped. Other nations decided to go to war over it and from there on a few nations supported High Cabal and were instantly added to the enemy list.

After a while, the nations willing to go to war backed down and I personally went back to my old way of dealing with things by simply condemning it and stopping trade between my nation and his.

Others then blockaded both High Cabal and their allies.

Now Saruman has come into to it to help defend High Cabal against oppressors becuase High Cabal allied with them. Now people are... I don't know about now... everyone is sticking to their comments and it's ground to a halt.

Personally I'm out of it unless someone does something real bad.
Padmasa
01-09-2003, 18:35
OOC:

Or...

The high Cabal starts everything off with the procamation that he has killed protesters who were carrying sticks and throwing rocks.

Alot of nations were offended and trade between them was stopped. Other nations decided to go to war over it and from there on a few nations supported High Cabal and were instantly added to the enemy list.

After a while, the nations willing to go to war backed down and I personally went back to my old way of dealing with things by simply condemning it and stopping trade between my nation and his.

Others then blockaded both High Cabal and their allies.

Now Saruman has come into to it to help defend High Cabal against oppressors becuase High Cabal allied with them. Now people are... I don't know about now... everyone is sticking to their comments and it's ground to a halt.

Personally I'm out of it unless someone does something real bad.

Actually I never blockaded The High Cabal. Or I don't think I did... I didn't have much sleep so....

Yeah I should get out of it to... But then again I'm in to deep and on two different fronts of it to get out any time soon. :roll:
01-09-2003, 18:37
OOC: this is degenereted into a shouting match and is going nowhere...sooo....
Padmasa
01-09-2003, 18:41
OOC: Yeah, I agree. I'll just go to a single front war.

IC: To the high Cabal and all agressors. The Dark Masters have grown bored with the situation and unless inuslted again will not be taking any action. Padmasan troops have been taken off highest alert and the ships are going home. The Blockade is ended although the embargo remains.
01-09-2003, 18:41
A high ranking member of the High Cabal will attend these meeting but we need a guarantee that this is not a trap and demand that it is held in a safe place for all members and that no weapons are brought.
We will not step down and we will leave the talks immediately upon any mention of the High Cabal stepping down. That is not an option

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua Harbringer of Doom and Herald of the High Cabal.

OOC I will be gone for a few hours so dont do anything big without me eg WAR!
01-09-2003, 19:47
(bump)
Militanar
01-09-2003, 21:37
OOC: This whole situation seems to have died down quite a bit. Maybe I can proceed on interests closer at home now...

IC: Is there any nation that still wishes to depose the High Cabal? we do, but if no other nation of strength joins us we will be forced to withdraw.
01-09-2003, 22:43
At last you finally withdraw your forces. I hope that you have finally realised that what you were doing is illegal.
Furthermore: Under Cabalian law you have committed war crimes and we demand that the generals of the Anti Cabal Alliance stand before a war crimes tribunal in our nation.
We do not wish to provoke a war and this is not a threat but we must make this demand.
We wish to also extend our gratitude to the nations that helped us in these troubled times when those tyrannical maniacs tried to crush our individuality. Your courage will again be remembered and we would like to offer you this fruit basket as a sign of our gratitude.
http://www.siberianbrides.com/buttons/fruit.jpg
"Fear me puny mortals for I am the Annointed One, Keeper of Secrets, the Pineapple"
Once again this is not a threat.
Be careful for the walls have ears too...

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua Harbringer of Doom and Herald of the High Cabal"
02-09-2003, 06:12
Olympus Coliseum would like to offer it's Presidential Retreat as a safe haven in which to conduct the peace talks. Please note that there will be armed soldiers around to protect the delegates as we consider this to be a necessary precaution.
02-09-2003, 06:27
Note to the Orthanc Alliance: If any of your members attacks any of the Anti Cabal Alliance(that includes me) I will help them beat the **** out of you. Note to The High Cabal: If you continue to insult and generally antagonize the nations that banded together to stop the human rights abuses perperated by members of your government, I can and WILL attack you.
02-09-2003, 11:50
Human rights abuses... what human right abuses? In the High Cabal there is no such thing as human rights and therefore we break no laws.
The threat against the Orthanc Alliance is a threat against the High Cabal, memeber of the Orthanc Alliance. We can and will not sit here and take your threats but we must go ahead with the peace talks. We wish to sent a delegate to Olympus Coliseum to take part.
The High Cabal will continue to rule there is no doubt about. You can destroy their bodies but never their essence.
We do not wish for war but again we say: this kitten has claws
Beware for the wall have ears too...

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua, Harbringer of Doom and Herald of the High Cabal.
Iuthia
02-09-2003, 17:28
This should really be the time when I say "Now now, no need for war" and that kind of thing... but quite frankly I've decided to not do any more then I've already done.

My old pledge still stands, I have the right to defend any nation who accepts an offer of defence. Though in truth I will only bother if the force attacking you is strong enough to succeed, quite frankly I'm not going to defend nations who pick fights they can't win either. But I am willing to defend if other allies get involved... on the other side I mean.

I do not want to see any nation destroyed over this, we were here to tell him to stop killing his people who have the basic right to live... in our opinion anyways. We are not here to kill his people for him.

This is why Iuthia is not going to war and will only be condemning these actions.

Though personally, I'm not going to stop anyone wishing to invade him either....

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Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia
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Recent Iuthian news... (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=683357#683357)
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02-09-2003, 18:30
High Cabal, if you need us then just say. We are sending weapons to you now. Telegram us for details.
02-09-2003, 18:30
High Cabal, if you need us then just say. We are sending weapons to you now. Telegram us for details.
02-09-2003, 18:36
Human rights abuses... what human right abuses? In the High Cabal there is no such thing as human rights and therefore we break no laws.
The threat against the Orthanc Alliance is a threat against the High Cabal, memeber of the Orthanc Alliance. We can and will not sit here and take your threats but we must go ahead with the peace talks. We wish to sent a delegate to Olympus Coliseum to take part.
The High Cabal will continue to rule there is no doubt about. You can destroy their bodies but never their essence.
We do not wish for war but again we say: this kitten has claws
Beware for the wall have ears too...

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua, Harbringer of Doom and Herald of the High Cabal.

How very true, Lord Saruman supports the actions of the High Cabal for they are a fulfillment of their culture and therefore a unique way of life.
The Orthanc Alliance is always ready to both defend unique cultures and take in new members, that is if anyone here is interested. Telegram me if so, here is a link for more information.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67273
Thus has spoken the voice of Saruman

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Saruman the White
Lord and Keeper of the Tower of Orthanc and the Ring of Isengard


The Dark Fiefdom of Lord Saruman the

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03-09-2003, 06:25
All right, now I'm pissed. High Cabal, expect the OCSNJC destroyers Honour, Yang, Solo and Sean, 5,000 S/A Avengers and 500,000 infantry wearing GLA assualt suits and equiqqed with lightswords to be arriving in your capital soon.

OOC: I want a map of your countrywithin 48 hours or I'll draw it for myself
Langham
03-09-2003, 06:26
All right, now I'm pissed. High Cabal, expect the OCSNJC destroyers Honour, Yang, Solo and Sean, 5,000 S/A Avengers and 500,000 infantry wearing GLA assualt suits and equiqqed with lightswords to be arriving in your capital soon.

OOC: I want a map of your countrywithin 48 hours or I'll draw it for myself :shock: You don't play around.
03-09-2003, 14:20
All right, now I'm pissed. High Cabal, expect the OCSNJC destroyers Honour, Yang, Solo and Sean, 5,000 S/A Avengers and 500,000 infantry wearing GLA assualt suits and equiqqed with lightswords to be arriving in your capital soon.

OOC: I want a map of your countrywithin 48 hours or I'll draw it for myself

OOC: FINALLY!
03-09-2003, 14:41
The United World States has turned a blind eye to these events for some time, much to our regret. We have since studied the matter, and are infuriated at The High Cabal's blatant violation of human rights, disgusted at the bogus regime change designed to catch coalition members offguard, amused at the aptly-named Tyrantar's defiance and finally stunned by the honour and bravery of the Olympic Coliseum's courage and honour in attempting to liberate the oppressed Cabalians.

While we are unable to deploy large numbers of troops due to Task Force 1 being cooped up in dealing with the La Peak situation and the trying times that the UWS is going through both politically and economically, neither problem will stop us in fielding two Seawolf subs (ETA 1 RL day), 4,000 special forces personnel and 6,000 Resi Corp. R-Bots v2.0 alongside the OC. We also call upon all nations that respect human rights to aid us here.

I hereby declare war upon the dictatorship that us The High Cabal and will immediately begin 'Operation Cabalian Freedom'. May the people of The High Cabal be freed from the shackles of their tyrannical government!

Thank you, and God bless.
03-09-2003, 14:59
UPDATE(OOC): Task Force 1 has been recalled, which means not only can I deploy troops much faster, I can also send 9,500 Marines as well.

This will be a swift campaign.
03-09-2003, 15:38
Fools. You do not know what you are doing
In protest to your racism 1000 Cabalian citizens are being executed by the Commissars. The citizens believe that you caused this and therefore will rise up against you.
Begone from this holy soil or face the High Cabals mighty armies.
We are preparing to mobilise our guerilla fighters who work in tandem with our serpent eating gorillas (who have been starved for several days now and will eat anything serpent like... therefore they will attack and eat you)
Stop your sinful acts and withdraw your forces.
Beware for we have powerful allies and dark magicks.

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua Harbringer of Doom and Herald of the High Cabal
03-09-2003, 16:40
All right, now I'm pissed. High Cabal, expect the OCSNJC destroyers Honour, Yang, Solo and Sean, 5,000 S/A Avengers and 500,000 infantry wearing GLA assualt suits and equiqqed with lightswords to be arriving in your capital soon.

OOC: I want a map of your countrywithin 48 hours or I'll draw it for myself

The Orthanc Alliance has never threatened you, but you have not the might to stand before the armies of Isengard and the union of many nations.
Those who chose to fight Saruman and the Alliance, will soon learn the error of their ways.
Consider our words well for they are the wisest cancel you shall ever recieve.
I send forth the Creboin of Dunland, the carrion birds just North West of Isengard. They shall be the storm of doom, air attacks would not be advised, our birds would swarm you and swat you out of the skies. Your infantry would die of a thousand cuts at the beaks of the Carrion horde.
Thus has spoken the voice of Saruman

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Saruman the White
Lord and Keeper of the Tower of Orthanc and the Ring of Isengard


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03-09-2003, 16:53
Olympus Coliseum = 793 million people.

Lord Whatshisname = 18 million.

Olympus Coliseum National Budget = $1,533,820,600,000

Lord Whatshisname National Budget = $151,164,000,000

OOC: Don't kid yourself...he's going to *SQUASH* you.
03-09-2003, 16:56
Olympus Coliseum = 793 million people.

Lord Whatshisname = 18 million.

Olympus Coliseum National Budget = $1,533,820,600,000

Lord Whatshisname National Budget = $151,164,000,000

OOC: Don't kid yourself...he's going to *SQUASH* you.

Did I say I was alone, no I did not! I have nations like Old Scotland and One Night Stands and many others in the Orthanc Alliance, members who are bound by the pact to defend their ally. We shall swat the armies of Olympus Colosseum from the air and trample them on the ground. We shall drown them in the sea.
Thus has spoken the voice of Saruman

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Saruman the White
Lord and Keeper of the Tower of Orthanc and the Ring of Isengard


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03-09-2003, 17:10
To: The High Cabal
From: United World States
Subject: Dumbass

You know, you sure talk big for someone who's up against 4 space destroyers and 500,000 future troops.

Unfortunately, none of my men look anything like serpents. The Resi Corp. robots may remotely resemble serpents, but robots are inedible so your gorillas will have to starve.

And don't think I'm intimidated by Saruman's weird birds. He's as old as I am, so his turkeys can't be that dangerous. I'd like to see how many of those buzzards I can shoot out of the sky.

In protest to your racism 1000 Cabalian citizens are being executed by the Commissars. The citizens believe that you caused this and therefore will rise up against you.


What racism, you power-hungry lunatic? We don't even have a clue what race (or species) you are of, so how can we discriminate against you?

Also, show us some proof of the Cabalians believing your piddling crap. Something that doesn't involve sticking an assault rifle into their backs.

Stop your sinful acts and withdraw your forces.
Beware for we have powerful allies and dark magicks.

Well, look who's talking! Killing protesters and burning them is not a sin, but helping them is?

And if you use magic, we will take that as godmodding, and will counter-godmod by evaporating your entire nation through an attack of the 10 megaton variety.



Your words cannot save you from defeat. Stop acting like you have the upper hand (quite literally) when you're facing someone with four queens.
03-09-2003, 18:05
OOC Ill have you know that having "magicks" is just as much godmoding as having futuristic robots that my men cant hurt. I dont see why you have to accuse me of cheating for using the kind of "army" that i want to use. You dont hear me complaining that my gorillas cant hurt your men, oh sorry i meant robots, because i find it adds fun to the game to have an obscure army. Dont tell me im godmoding when i am deliberately putting myself in a losing position so that i (and possibly you) can have fun. If i dont want to use futuristic robots then why cant i have my own weapons in the form of dark magicks. Anyway the use of the word "dark" and "magicks" is meant as a joke and im surprised that you are too foolish to see through that fact. Also to make it clear the racism thing was meant as a joke. In fact if you hadnt noticed i am deliberately completely contradicting all of the things that my nation stands for in my verbal attacks on you. In case you are not following me (which i presume you are not) i will give an example: I burn citizens and then call you tyrannical maniacs. Now to explain the sinful thing... This forum is for in character discussions and the High Cabal are the religious leaders in my nation and therefore they are calling you sinful because your acts go against Cabalian religion (in character). Wow there's another irony for you.
03-09-2003, 18:21
By what right do foriegn powers judge other powers. We have always wondered why their system is so much better than ours, why their morality is more worthy. It is sickening that nations like United World States are trying to usurp and annihilate a 'unique' culture that has thrived and multiplied.
The Carrion Birds of Orthanc cannot easily be destroyed for when massed in a vast cloud of extreme densities, a plane would not survive a trip through nor would troops manning the guns survive the cuts of pecking.
Thus has spoken the voice of Saruman

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Saruman the White
Lord and Keeper of the Tower of Orthanc and the Ring of Isengard


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Iuthia
03-09-2003, 18:42
OOC: This is pre-post before I join in (I will not say in what way though) becuase I have to get some diner and I'm hungry.

Firstly, there is a difference between IC and OOC. Remember that becuase when High Cabal calls you a racist it's not his personal OOC opinion, but his nations IC way of getting you wound up.

Lord Suramen, you personally are involved in another war. Think about the concequences before joining in a second. Plus, you will have to ask allies if they want into this one, you cannot use their troops unless they say you can*.

I'll be back in about half an hours for the IC post.

*Not that you said you were using them, I just wanted to add this, you seem like a ok RPer only you have a tendancy to answer all post IC.
03-09-2003, 18:43
OOC: This is pre-post before I join in (I will not say in what way though) becuase I have to get some diner and I'm hungry.

Firstly, there is a difference between IC and OOC. Remember that becuase when High Cabal calls you a racist it's not his personal OOC opinion, but his nations IC way of getting you wound up.

Lord Suramen, you personally are involved in another war. Think about the concequences before joining in a second. Plus, you will have to ask allies if they want into this one, you cannot use their troops unless they say you can*.

I'll be back in about half an hours for the IC post.

*Not that you said you were using them, I just wanted to add this, you seem like a ok RPer only you have a tendancy to answer all post IC.

ooc: I know that I cannot be involved much which is why I only sent the birds. They are effective in battle.
03-09-2003, 18:55
TO:United World States

OOC: when you believe someone is godmoding you IGNORE them not 'countergodmod'. If their means of fighting is not to your taste then take your invincible robots elsewhere
03-09-2003, 19:34
bumpitty bump
Iuthia
03-09-2003, 19:55
--- Meanwhile, on orbit with High Cabal ---

The Roger Young's crew slept quiet as the nightshift skeleton crew serviced systems and watched the surrounding area for possible threats.
They had little to do since the attack was called off, the tension had wound down and people were lazy in their actions... though not too lazy, it didn't do well to be caught dossing about with a sergeant near-by.

However in the captains quarters, a small alarm went off on the comms screen. Captain Blakehard turned to his viewer all blurry eyed and let out a yawn...

"Morning Captain, sorry to wake you up so early, but it looks like the attack may still be on afterall..." the Captain tried to identify the voice quickly, his vision still wasn't giving him any clues. "The High Cabal have recently killed off 1000 of their own population after a couple nations declared war on them, the men high up seem to think this justifies our test"

It was the Commander, Commander... what is his surname again... Johnsted, Commander Johnsted*. He quickly got up and straight and asked the first question that came to his mind...

"Sir, is this a secure channel?"

"As secure as we can make it, we were very careful with this one." The Captain looked releived... sometimes he and the crew wondered how smart some of the people higher up were, with all this in and out business.
"That aside, we want you're men to go in without blatent uniforms. The powered armour is going to need a quick make-over to remove all identifying marks, we need this attack to be anominous"

"But sir, the men didn't sign up to fight in secret. This won't do moral much good"

"I know Captain, but this is going to be carefully planned out so that Iuthia is not officially part of the war, we need them test the new technology without linking us to the attack, anyways Captain, thats enough arguing for now. I've sent you your orders, have your men briefed by the time noted"

"Yes sir"

The screen went to a blank and the captain got dressed... looks like we're not out of it yet....


* Not all Commanders have glamorous names.

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03-09-2003, 20:04
To United World States:

Sir,

Cabalian forces are marching upon key defensive positions and are going to defending their lands with vigour and zeal. You will be at a huge disadvantage because your troops do not know the lands as well as my citizen militia (and by the way they are very expendible). The dragons of the icy north and firey south have been roused from their slumber and are preparing to destroy any of your forces that touch the fatherlands soil.
Your invisible, indestructable, ninja, space warriors will be no match for them. The ancient wyverns of the icy peaks are partrolling the skies and the war hydras are being collected. Cerberus himself is ready to defend the High Cabal. The charioteers of the order of Cuchulainn are reading their javelin. Be warned it will be a costly war...

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua Harbringer of Doom and Herald of the High Cabal




Beware for the walls have ears too...
Iuthia
03-09-2003, 20:26
Beware for the walls have ears too...

OOC: Remember, no one knows what Iuthia will do, we have taken as much care as possible and spies are very hard to get into Iuthia

If you want to claim spies in Iuthia, start another RP thread or telegram me about it to sort it out.

High Cabal, check your telegrams.
03-09-2003, 21:21
bumpitty bump bump bump... bump
03-09-2003, 21:30
From Ikriti Toryt

I am setting up a tourist guide to various nation state countries, i ask permission to fly my tourist sight seeing plane around your nation and maybe round the great tower itself. If there is a cost involed i will not hesitate to pay as i have paying customers prepared to pay for the tourist flght.

Thankyou

Ikriti
Rioki
03-09-2003, 21:35
Hey Terristan, aren't you a....never mind.
03-09-2003, 21:49
Im going to bed now so i wont be online for another 18 hours at least
Langham
03-09-2003, 22:21
To United World States:

Sir,

Cabalian forces are marching upon key defensive positions and are going to defending their lands with vigour and zeal. You will be at a huge disadvantage because your troops do not know the lands as well as my citizen militia (and by the way they are very expendible). The dragons of the icy north and firey south have been roused from their slumber and are preparing to destroy any of your forces that touch the fatherlands soil.
Your invisible, indestructable, ninja, space warriors will be no match for them. The ancient wyverns of the icy peaks are partrolling the skies and the war hydras are being collected. Cerberus himself is ready to defend the High Cabal. The charioteers of the order of Cuchulainn are reading their javelin. Be warned it will be a costly war...

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua Harbringer of Doom and Herald of the High Cabal




Beware for the walls have ears too...Costly for you, if you go to war with me you'll have to face a Nemesis, and I promise you, things will get ugly for you.
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Care to see stage 2&3?
Haverton
03-09-2003, 22:33
To United World States:

Sir,

Cabalian forces are marching upon key defensive positions and are going to defending their lands with vigour and zeal. You will be at a huge disadvantage because your troops do not know the lands as well as my citizen militia (and by the way they are very expendible). The dragons of the icy north and firey south have been roused from their slumber and are preparing to destroy any of your forces that touch the fatherlands soil.
Your invisible, indestructable, ninja, space warriors will be no match for them. The ancient wyverns of the icy peaks are partrolling the skies and the war hydras are being collected. Cerberus himself is ready to defend the High Cabal. The charioteers of the order of Cuchulainn are reading their javelin. Be warned it will be a costly war...

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua Harbringer of Doom and Herald of the High Cabal




Beware for the walls have ears too...Costly for you, if you go to war with me you'll have to face a Nemesis, and I promise you, things will get ugly for you.

I wonder if your big bad dragons can withstand Phoenix missiles shot from a F-14, which can engage six of your lizards at a time.

Otherwise, the 1st Imperial Fleet, 3rd Seaplane Division, and on transport the 3rd Infantry Division, 4th Armored Calvary Division, 7th Marine Division, and 2nd Infantry Division have been dispatched to wipe out your puny little army. Oh, another thing High Cabal. You can't just throw half your population at the enemy. Your economy would become nonexistant. And, since my entire army in wartime is close to your entire population, plus the allies, would turn your pitiful nation into dust...

EDIT: Due to the removal of a blockade I was holding, the 3rd Imperial Fleet and the 9th Seaplane Division will now join the invasion forces. As the auxillary forces arrive, the 1st Invasion Fleet (Before Edit fleet) comes closer as the 2nd Invasion Fleet (Post Edit fleet) turns around to High Cabal. Finally, the 3rd Navy Air Force and 2nd Imperial Air Force is shipping its short-ranged planes towards High Cabal. In Haverton itself, the first B-52 Bombers are being scrambled along with long-range fighters to lead the first attack on High Cabal.
Iuthia
03-09-2003, 22:54
--- -- --- ---- - -- To all Nations -- - -- --- - --- ---- - -

[The screen lights up and a siloette can be seen as it turns into a man in a black generals uniform, he is currently arching his fingers as he stares directly into the camera]

Hello there,

It has come to my attention that some nations joining this conflict have got it into their heads that this is a "pitiful nation" and that it should be turned into dust.

I came into this conflict a while ago to free the people of The High Cabal, who have been murdering their people for various stupid reasons. After a while it came to me attention that this nation would loose alot more men through an Iuthian strike then it would through many years of opressive rule under the Cabal. Thus we decided that it would be unwise to attack their nation, but instead change their views through presure.

Now, I have no qualms with a nation going to war to "free" the people from their oppressive rule. I do however have a problem with those who would turn this nation to dust over a few goading comments that their leadership throw around.

Any nation who attempt to turn this nation to dust will face Iuthia. Since I would not be trusted within his nation to defend them, I would have to take the defence the only other way I can think of, to the offending nation.

It may seem odd that I would do this, but we came here to free this nation, damage it and I will damage your nations military until it is irrepairable.

For those who think that I'm some small un-important nation, your intel is very wrong. I am a very big nation with around 1.058 billion people behind me. I have a military that is probably bigger then the High Cabals population.

So don't fight to do damage, fight to free the people. I will judge personally on your nations intentions... should they be genocide, you will feel Iuthia's wrath.

Until next time,

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Lord General deGritz, leader of Iuthia
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Haverton
03-09-2003, 23:03
I'm terribly sorry if I meant that I wanted to wipe out High Cabal. I just want to do a few surgical strikes to knock out their oppresive goverment and military.
Scandavian States
03-09-2003, 23:47
OOC: Well, since I am no longer commited to the Reichskamphen situation I can divert my attention here.

The SLS McKenna (McKenna Class Battleship), SLS Conqueror (Conqueror Class Battlecruiser), and nine Nekohono'o dropships loaded with a regiment of Infiltrator MkII battlearmor have been ordered into geosynchronus orbit above High Cabal. Should those opposed to High Cabal attack we will attack with them and no one shall stand against our combined might. Glory to the Star League! Glory to the First Lord!
04-09-2003, 02:17
OOC Ill have you know that having "magicks" is just as much godmoding as having futuristic robots that my men cant hurt. I dont see why you have to accuse me of cheating for using the kind of "army" that i want to use. You dont hear me complaining that my gorillas cant hurt your men, oh sorry i meant robots, because i find it adds fun to the game to have an obscure army. Dont tell me im godmoding when i am deliberately putting myself in a losing position so that i (and possibly you) can have fun. If i dont want to use futuristic robots then why cant i have my own weapons in the form of dark magicks. Anyway the use of the word "dark" and "magicks" is meant as a joke and im surprised that you are too foolish to see through that fact. Also to make it clear the racism thing was meant as a joke. In fact if you hadnt noticed i am deliberately completely contradicting all of the things that my nation stands for in my verbal attacks on you. In case you are not following me (which i presume you are not) i will give an example: I burn citizens and then call you tyrannical maniacs. Now to explain the sinful thing... This forum is for in character discussions and the High Cabal are the religious leaders in my nation and therefore they are calling you sinful because your acts go against Cabalian religion (in character). Wow there's another irony for you.

OOC:First off, unless your men use sticks and stones, robot troops are hardly invincible, a single rocket-propelled grenade would tear them to bits. Second, I need to look this up, but magic simply doesn't seem to exist here. What's more, your jokes simply weren't funny. Also, I don't have a clue what your nation stands for, so I'll take it as murdering people (something which matches exactly your IC behaviour).
Next, the religious leaders calling me sinful. I knew my acts were considered sinful. I was just poking fun at your primitive religion. Not to mention that you are not trying to have fun, you're just being a pain in the neck.


Last of all your posts were in IC and so was my message!

IC:I normally wouldn't use these robot soldiers against other countries, but cases like The High Cabal's call for desperate measures. The nation needs to be liberated ASAP. Using robot soldiers will speed up the process and probably save thousands of lives.
04-09-2003, 02:22
OOC: Well, since I am no longer commited to the Reichskamphen situation I can divert my attention here.

The SLS McKenna (McKenna Class Battleship), SLS Conqueror (Conqueror Class Battlecruiser), and nine Nekohono'o dropships loaded with a regiment of Infiltrator MkII battlearmor have been ordered into geosynchronus orbit above High Cabal. Should those opposed to High Cabal attack we will attack with them and no one shall stand against our combined might. Glory to the Star League! Glory to the First Lord!

Do you know what integrity and honour mean?

I hope you realize what you are condoning here.

EDIT (OOC): Hey, is anyone else going to help us free the Cabalians? We need all the help we can get.
Scandavian States
04-09-2003, 03:38
OOC: Well, since I am no longer commited to the Reichskamphen situation I can divert my attention here.

The SLS McKenna (McKenna Class Battleship), SLS Conqueror (Conqueror Class Battlecruiser), and nine Nekohono'o dropships loaded with a regiment of Infiltrator MkII battlearmor have been ordered into geosynchronus orbit above High Cabal. Should those opposed to High Cabal attack we will attack with them and no one shall stand against our combined might. Glory to the Star League! Glory to the First Lord!

Do you know what integrity and honour mean?

I hope you realize what you are condoning here.

EDIT (OOC): Hey, is anyone else going to help us free the Cabalians? We need all the help we can get.

And you need to learn to read properly, I am helping you guys.
04-09-2003, 03:39
OOC: From the way I understand it, if anyone initiates the attack against the High Cabal, Scandanavian States will also participate in the attack.

I think you read it wrong...he's going to help.
04-09-2003, 04:12
:oops: Sorry bout that, mental short-circuit. How embarrasing.
04-09-2003, 10:04
Fools. You do not know what you are doing
In protest to your racism 1000 Cabalian citizens are being executed by the Commissars. The citizens believe that you caused this and therefore will rise up against you.
Begone from this holy soil or face the High Cabals mighty armies.
We are preparing to mobilise our guerilla fighters who work in tandem with our serpent eating gorillas (who have been starved for several days now and will eat anything serpent like... therefore they will attack and eat you)
Stop your sinful acts and withdraw your forces.
Beware for we have powerful allies and dark magicks.

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua Harbringer of Doom and Herald of the High Cabal
Racism? What racism? Is there anyone here apart from High Cabal who thinks my 3rd post was racist?

OOC: I don't get High Cabal's actions. I declare war on him, and he then kills 1,000 of HIS guys?
04-09-2003, 11:57
Tyrannies don't have to make sense you know. Look at good old 'comical Ali' the information minister in Iraq.

And Uncle Noel would like to say that he finds these actions most troubling. The destruction of the High Cabal and its allies is a step that Uncle Noel is not willing to allow.

However, Uncle Noel does realise that he has a small nation and that his tanks are merely mock-up wooden replicas for the purposes of parades. He does not have super hi-tech killing robots from the 23rd dimension or vast space fleets (which if you ask me are more than a little silly in a game such as this). Uncle Noel lends his support to the High Cabal) only in words (and possibly as a save place to hide after the war) but will remember this outrage. He will remember.
04-09-2003, 12:50
Today in the Theocracy of the High Cabal, blessed be, humanitarian citizens marching against the strict slavery laws (in favour of slavery) and for the lack of basic public services.
They began chanting "No, no Cabalio". At this point the Cabalian forces stopped the containment of the riot and immediatley began slaughtering these sinners. They have had their souls cleansed by fire and are now being fed to starving Cabalian who have nothing to eat after the famine ,caused by a dark hex, and when the High Cabal, blessed be, destroyed the food reserves in their divine rage.
Also in other news the High Cabal welcomes their new neighbours in the nation of Sambonia the Republic of Achlia.

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua, Herald of the High Cabal, blessed be.

The Republic of Canjuk is glad the containment was stopped, seeing as how a brutal containment would have led to the death of many innocents.
Scandavian States
04-09-2003, 13:41
Today in the Theocracy of the High Cabal, blessed be, humanitarian citizens marching against the strict slavery laws (in favour of slavery) and for the lack of basic public services.
They began chanting "No, no Cabalio". At this point the Cabalian forces stopped the containment of the riot and immediatley began slaughtering these sinners. They have had their souls cleansed by fire and are now being fed to starving Cabalian who have nothing to eat after the famine ,caused by a dark hex, and when the High Cabal, blessed be, destroyed the food reserves in their divine rage.
Also in other news the High Cabal welcomes their new neighbours in the nation of Sambonia the Republic of Achlia.

Signed the Cardinal of Sambagua, Herald of the High Cabal, blessed be.

The Republic of Canjuk is glad the containment was stopped, seeing as how a brutal containment would have led to the death of many innocents.

He stopped the containment sure enough, then he said 'just fuck it' and killed a lot of people.
Iuthia
04-09-2003, 17:34
aka-"newbie"[/i]]OOC:First off, unless your men use sticks and stones, robot troops are hardly invincible, a single rocket-propelled grenade would tear them to bits.


OOC: Damn, you are new to this huh?

Firstly, if you don't like what he is claiming, get the hell out of our war and ignore him. I'm letting him use magic* against my forces (which no-body knows I'm luanching) plus I have worked out alot of OOC battle information behind the sceens with him.

Secondly, this guy did only have crappy old tech**, but while you guys pulled back your blockade, someone supplied him with those weapons. So pay attention to what is being said... of course, you may not know that IC.

Finally... he may be a small nation, but he has friends. Plus when a animal is cornered thats when they are most dangerous... you don't know all the information about his nation so how do you know what he has. Out of character, I like this guys RP and I'm being careful not to anillate him.


Oh, Scandavian States, this is a important OOC message:

Upon entering orbit above The High Cabal, you see a Frigate-Class shape ship with no identifying marks on it, or at least, no marks that you recognise. The Frigate shows no sigh of re-action to your ships, it just continues on to stay in orbit above The High Cabal.



* Magic has been used numberous times, see the Nation "Rave Shentavo" they have an academy designed for teaching people magic, it is endorsed by all the big Roleplayers and the mods. People love it.

** A starting nation can still have crappy machine guns, lots of poor eatern countries today have automatic weapons around, they are just not very good or well trained. Don't assume anything with NS...
Scandavian States
04-09-2003, 18:38
*Aboard SLS McKenna*

"Sir, unidentified contact at 20,000 kilometers, looks to be a frigate of some kind."

The Admiral acknowledged this and shouted out, "All stop, deployed dropships in defensive screen."

"All stop, aye," engines replied.

When his orders we relayed to the task force and obered he barked out another, "Deploy the Shivas and hail the ship. Deploy the 1st and 2nd Aerospace regiments 1,000 kilometers in front of the screen and the 3rd with the dropship fighters inside the screen."

"Sir, we're on general frequency."

"Attention unidentified ship, you are in orbit over an enemy of the Star League, identify youself and declare your intentions or be engaged."

OOC: I don't know the ship is friendly, so please forgive this little game of 'Me Tarzan, you Jane'. Specs for the fighters can be found here once I get them done: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60862.
Iuthia
04-09-2003, 19:04
OOC: I don't know the ship is friendly, so please forgive this little game of 'Me Tarzan, you Jane'.

OOC: I wanted this, it enhances RP and it's what you will find. Anyways, this ship isn't officially here... Oh, and it's a big ship, not huge, but big enough to have a small amount of secondary craft (for retreival). It has small defence capablities that you are aware of (mass driver turrets on the top and bottom).

IC:

"Attention unidentified ship, you are in orbit over an enemy of the Star League, identify youself and declare your intentions or be engaged."

The voice boomed out of the speakers below the tactical screen as the Captain contemplated what was going on...

"Change to their frequency, audio only" Behind him one of the young officers did just that...

"This a private vessel, we are here on a observational mission above the nation of The High Cabal, we have every right to be here that you have. Should you fire upon this vessal we will be forced to send out a distress call as we have only a few defencive capabilitys. People know we are here and that is all we are permitted to say.
"We Have no qualms about you being here, and should we fire upon you then you will be perfectly within your rights to attack this vessal. Now, if you don't mind, we've got a mission to do"
Scandavian States
04-09-2003, 19:36
OOC: Indeed, I love doing these kind of things before the shit hits the fan.

"This a private vessel, we are here on a observational mission above the nation of The High Cabal, we have every right to be here that you have. Should you fire upon this vessal we will be forced to send out a distress call as we have only a few defencive capabilitys. People know we are here and that is all we are permitted to say."

Private Vessel? Observation mission? Why not just use satallites? It didn't fit, at least not to the Admiral's military mind.

"Very well," Admiral Sun replied. "For now you are tagged as neutral on our IFF but if you do anything untoward expect to hear from me again. Admiral Sun, out."

OOC: FYI, the Admiral is Cantonese but is still rather tall and therefor just a bit intimidating (6'0", 175 lbs) on first site. You should read the specs on my ships just so your captain would know what he's dealing with.
Haverton
05-09-2003, 01:22
Admiral Yi-Shun-Shin Imperial Naval Air Base, Diego Garcia

3:27 AM

Ten B-52 Imperial Navy Bombers, took off from thier base, loaded with one long-range massive Saber-tooth cruise missle. The massive bombers came within striking range and let thier payload down, then heading back home. 5 of the cruise missiles would hit the High Cabalian palace/parliment/other seat of government, while the other 5 would strike the High Cabalian military bases. Damage reports so far unknown

Also, the 1st Invasion Fleet is nearing southern High Cabal, where it will soon stop to wait for cargo ships to replensish it, before it leads a massive strike on the Cabalian positions. The 2nd Invasion Fleet, meanwhile, will move in to the east, and attack from there.
05-09-2003, 02:10
In the darkened skies above the High Cabal Commodre Roger Macmillan lazily watched his viewscreen in the bridge of the UNS Righteous Fury.

"My Lord," said the young Midshipman, "We have commenced our geo-stationary orbit over the High Cabal and we await your orders."

"We shall play the old waiting game now," said Macmillan, "Alert me if anything...."

"My Lord!" erupted Lietuenant Fitzgerald, "Sensors report a large concentration of enemy troops approaching the border of High Cabal. Several space fleets are also entering near-by space."

"They are obvisously unaware of Uncle Noel's tactical and military genius. "

The bridge crew turned in unison to a large portrait of their beloved leader that huge with pride on the back wall.

"Prepare the mechs."

"Yes My Lord."

"And the SUPER ATOMIC RAY GUN! THEY SHALL NOT NEVER WIN. DEPLOY THE SPACE FIGHTERS! WE'LL SMASH THEM ALL! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

"Wake up sir."

"What?"

"Wake up sir........"

The bridge of the UNS Righteous Fury faded away and Roger Macmillan realised that he was still in the drab concrete barracks that Uncle Noel's forces still worked from. The face of Corporal Harkins looked bemused at his superior.

"Where's the bridge?"

"What bridge sir?"

"The bridge of the our space ship?"

"We haven't even built a firework yet let alone a spaceship sir. We've barely an airforce!"

"Then I'm not the Commodore in the Space fleet?"

"No sir, you're a bog-standard army captain who pushes wooden mock-up tanks in parades."

"And we've got another parade today!"

"Fraid so sir. Birthday of Uncle Noel's sister's former flatmate. Deserves a big parade.......apparantly." muttered Harkins under his breath.

"What about the High Cabal?"

"Well apparantly someone high up knows someone in The Orthanc Alliance with a fast boat. If we can borrow it for the weekend we should be able to smuggle the cardinal and the rest of the cabal out of the country and to safety."

"Where will they take them?"

"Here probably. Better than nothing."

Macmillan looked around his damp and crumbling room.

"Is it?" he asked ruefully.

"No," replied Harkins, "probably isn't better than nothing."
Scandavian States
05-09-2003, 05:06
In the darkened skies above the High Cabal Commodre Roger Macmillan lazily watched his viewscreen in the bridge of the UNS Righteous Fury.

"My Lord," said the young Midshipman, "We have commenced our geo-stationary orbit over the High Cabal and we await your orders."

"We shall play the old waiting game now," said Macmillan, "Alert me if anything...."

"My Lord!" erupted Lietuenant Fitzgerald, "Sensors report a large concentration of enemy troops approaching the border of High Cabal. Several space fleets are also entering near-by space."

"They are obvisously unaware of Uncle Noel's tactical and military genius. "

The bridge crew turned in unison to a large portrait of their beloved leader that huge with pride on the back wall.

"Prepare the mechs."

"Yes My Lord."

"And the SUPER ATOMIC RAY GUN! THEY SHALL NOT NEVER WIN. DEPLOY THE SPACE FIGHTERS! WE'LL SMASH THEM ALL! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

"Wake up sir."

"What?"

"Wake up sir........"

The bridge of the UNS Righteous Fury faded away and Roger Macmillan realised that he was still in the drab concrete barracks that Uncle Noel's forces still worked from. The face of Corporal Harkins looked bemused at his superior.

"Where's the bridge?"

"What bridge sir?"

"The bridge of the our space ship?"

"We haven't even built a firework yet let alone a spaceship sir. We've barely an airforce!"

"Then I'm not the Commodore in the Space fleet?"

"No sir, you're a bog-standard army captain who pushes wooden mock-up tanks in parades."

"And we've got another parade today!"

"Fraid so sir. Birthday of Uncle Noel's sister's former flatmate. Deserves a big parade.......apparantly." muttered Harkins under his breath.

"What about the High Cabal?"

"Well apparantly someone high up knows someone in The Orthanc Alliance with a fast boat. If we can borrow it for the weekend we should be able to smuggle the cardinal and the rest of the cabal out of the country and to safety."

"Where will they take them?"

"Here probably. Better than nothing."

Macmillan looked around his damp and crumbling room.

"Is it?" he asked ruefully.

"No," replied Harkins, "probably isn't better than nothing."

OOC: You wont get to them in time, not if I have any say. Haverton, I could clear you a beachead if you would like, just TG me and tel me when you want it done by.
05-09-2003, 05:53
The OCSNJC destroyers start firing their laser cannons at the government offices in High Cabal's capital city (OOC: they've been hovering above the capital for 45 RL hours so there's been plenty of time to evacuate), the S/A Avengers fly over the airport runways making countless little holes in them and the 500,000 infantry cut the control towers into tiny pieces. Meanwhile, the 2000 OCNWC battleships impose a blockade upon High Cabal and my 1,600,000 Goliath (OOC:ultraheavy) tanks are sweeping through the countryside(OOC: they're on the roads) to try to stop any senior High Cabal officials from escaping.

Note:
OCSNJC: Olympus Coliseum Space Navy Justice Class
OCNWC: Olympus Coliseum Navy Warlord Class
The S/A Avengers are Space Navy, the infantry are Space Army and the tanks are just plain Army
OOC: As I'm making the official IC reason for this war High Cabal's slaughter of human rights protesters, I have to be as humanitaritian as possible
05-09-2003, 06:01
High Cabal, your time is nearly up, I'm drawing the map right now.
05-09-2003, 12:40
OOC: You wont get to them in time, not if I have any say. Haverton, I could clear you a beachead if you would like, just TG me and tel me when you want it done by.

OOC: A certain Mr. Hussein might disagree about the ability to smuggle leading personnel out of a country. In the confusion of war who can say what happens?
05-09-2003, 12:53
Meanwhile, the 2000 OCNWC battleships impose a blockade upon High Cabal and my 1,600,000 Goliath (OOC:ultraheavy) tanks are sweeping through the countryside(OOC: they're on the roads) to try to stop any senior High Cabal officials from escaping.

You realise that in all your bluster, Uncle Noel may have already have sped the High Cabal leadership away. At this moment the good Cardinal of Sambagua could even be having lunch in one of Uncle Noel's many palaces.

OOC: As I'm making the official IC reason for this war High Cabal's slaughter of human rights protesters, I have to be as humanitaritian as possible

So that's alright then is it?
Scandavian States
05-09-2003, 14:27
Meanwhile, the 2000 OCNWC battleships impose a blockade upon High Cabal and my 1,600,000 Goliath (OOC:ultraheavy) tanks are sweeping through the countryside(OOC: they're on the roads) to try to stop any senior High Cabal officials from escaping.

You realise that in all your bluster, Uncle Noel may have already have sped the High Cabal leadership away. At this moment the good Cardinal of Sambagua could even be having lunch in one of Uncle Noel's many palaces.

OOC: As I'm making the official IC reason for this war High Cabal's slaughter of human rights protesters, I have to be as humanitaritian as possible

So that's alright then is it?

OOC: How about you RP getting them out of there instead of presuming that my Naval PPCs didn't atomize you. FYI, ooc of course, I have satallites watching your airports and naval ports and am tracking anything that looks like it will even come close to Cabal. I wouldn't tempt my wrath, you'll shortly see why.

Our orbital shipyards have completed another Conqueror class Battlecruiser, named the SLS Pillager. Its first assignment is to link up with the task force above High Cabal where it will deploy the 4th and 5th Aerospace Fighter Regiments and prepare for the commencement of hostilities. A general warning has been issued to High Cabal's allies that if any attempt is made to Aid and Abet these criminals' escape from justice there will be dire repercussions.
05-09-2003, 14:44
OOC: don't forget that Langham still has 2 carrier groups enforcing a blockade...I don't know if he plans to visit this thread anymore but his ships are still there, keeping the ocean under heavy surveillence.

Good luck getting past them with your speedboat.
05-09-2003, 15:26
The simple fact of the matter remains that you cannot physically watch an entire nation ALL the time in the detail required to find someone. People move from safe house to safe house. There must be fishing boats in the High Cabal in which people could be held. People do slip through the net and to simply claim that you can atomise someone is a bit much.

This is all idle speculation. Since the person involved isn't here in the first place I'm not going to make bold plans and wild fantasies. Hell, the High Cabal might not want to flee. They may wish to face the music and proverbally dance. My offer of help still stands though but I won't RP until instructed to do so.

And Uncle Noel dislikes idle threats. He wasn't present at the meeting that said that might made right and so he respectfully tells Scandavian States and Tallcottia to naff off.
05-09-2003, 15:32
And Uncle Noel dislikes idle threats. He wasn't present at the meeting that said that might made right and so he respectfully tells Scandavian States and Tallcottia to naff off.

I've been involved in all of this since the very beginning so you can take your ego and stick it up your ass.
Scandavian States
05-09-2003, 15:37
The simple fact of the matter remains that you cannot physically watch an entire nation ALL the time in the detail required to find someone. People move from safe house to safe house. There must be fishing boats in the High Cabal in which people could be held. People do slip through the net and to simply claim that you can atomise someone is a bit much.

This is all idle speculation. Since the person involved isn't here in the first place I'm not going to make bold plans and wild fantasies. Hell, the High Cabal might not want to flee. They may wish to face the music and proverbally dance. My offer of help still stands though but I won't RP until instructed to do so.

And Uncle Noel dislikes idle threats. He wasn't present at the meeting that said that might made right and so he respectfully tells Scandavian States and Tallcottia to naff off.

I don't have to find High Cabal's leaders, I just have to make sure that none of their friends get too close to to High Cabal, which isn't a hard task from space. You might be right about the atomization thing, but I would think that accelerating sub-atomic particle to near the speed of light would do some serious damage, especially when the weapon was designed to take out capital ships and is engaging a much smaller and less armored target.

PS- You should look at my earlier posts, I took out a Nazi capital city just because he pissed me off. I don't make idle threats.
Scandavian States
07-09-2003, 14:32
Our third Conqueror class Battlecruiser has been completed and christened the SLS Vanquisher. It shall link up with the task force and deploy the 6th and 7th Aerospace Fighter Regiments.

OOC: That's 350 ship based fighters plus another 54 dropship based fighters.
07-09-2003, 14:38
Just a reminder: those peacekeepers are strapped to the Cabal's HQ
Scandavian States
07-09-2003, 15:29
Just a reminder: those peacekeepers are strapped to the Cabal's HQ

What peacekeepers do you speak of? I haven't sent any peacekeepers and neither has anyone else to my knowledge.
07-09-2003, 20:03
OOC:read the earlier posts
07-09-2003, 20:07
Just a reminder: those peacekeepers are strapped to the Cabal's HQ

What peacekeepers do you speak of? I haven't sent any peacekeepers and neither has anyone else to my knowledge.

OOC: Nope, haven't seen anybody other than the Militanarians (who have since been withdrawn, I think) in the High Cabal.
08-09-2003, 00:59
To think that Uncle Noel is unable to eat humble pie is a mistake. Uncle Noel is feeble compared to your own militaries and therefore respectfully backs down. But there will one day be a day of reckoning, and it is Uncle Noel who will have the last laugh.

OCC: Apologies to those who thought ill of my dictator nonsense. Sorry if I was rude.
Scandavian States
08-09-2003, 01:14
To think that Uncle Noel is unable to eat humble pie is a mistake. Uncle Noel is feeble compared to your own militaries and therefore respectfully backs down. But there will one day be a day of reckoning, and it is Uncle Noel who will have the last laugh.

OCC: Apologies to those who thought ill of my dictator nonsense. Sorry if I was rude.

A wise choice, it takes a truly brave man to recognize when he is defeated before the battle has even commenced and then not let his own pride get in the way of the lives of his men. A piece of advice: Hindsight may have 20/20 vision when looking back but is completely blind when looking forward, do not let your vandettas get in the way of doing good for your country.

OOC: Of course not, you are acting out a part.
Iuthia
08-09-2003, 01:15
Very well, I will down grade you to my grey list, seeing as you are no longer supporting the brutal regime of The High Cabal


OOC: Not that I was really involved in anything you said IC, but being quite involved in the thread itself I feel that the apologie will go down well, if only more player could IC and OOC backdown.

I'm not talking about you there High Cabal, I think you are doing fine despite your continued resistance. I look forward to any RP that may come up in the future... no doubt a few days by the looks of this thread...
Scandavian States
08-09-2003, 01:23
Scandavian States
08-09-2003, 01:25
High Cabal, come out, come out wherever you are. Are you such a coward that you will not face your own death? Look to your friend Noel and follow his example if you are wise. If not, then may you die upon my sword.
08-09-2003, 01:41
Uncle Noel would like to remind Iuthia that while he cannot support the High Cabal in matters military he can give support via diplomatic channels and seek to destablise the imperialist invaders via other means.
08-09-2003, 01:47
OCC: Ultimately I'm working towards a trade embargo :wink:
Scandavian States
08-09-2003, 01:51
OCC: Ultimately I'm working towards a trade embargo :wink:

OOC: Against who? If it's against me it won't work as I build everything for myself and have enough natural resources in reserve to last me 100 years in peacetime.
Iuthia
08-09-2003, 01:53
Yes... I'm sure you could try that. May I remind you myself that I am not one of those "imperialistic invaders" as you so elequently put it*. We have simply placed The High Cabal on trade sanctions (Iuthia only) and have black listed them as a nation, which doesn't really mean much to be honest.

However... you may not wish to flaunt your support for The High Cabal, some of the nations here are quite willing to fight and may find that they wish to vent some more anger once they are done. I suggest your not around when that happens. Should you activly cause trouble with their plans, they may also see that as a good reason for war too, so be careful on how you support your brutal friend.

You know, it's Dictators like you that give us benefical Dictators a bad name... though I feel that James deGritz is a good enough name...

:Wanders into the distance mutting to himself...:


*OOC: Actually, I will be, you just don't/won't know it. Hm... good thing I've discussed my plans with the nation I'm going to do it on...
08-09-2003, 02:05
OCC: Ultimately I'm working towards a trade embargo :wink:

OOC: Against who? If it's against me it won't work as I build everything for myself and have enough natural resources in reserve to last me 100 years in peacetime.

OOC: No no. I'm hoping to get myself blacklisted and have people stop trading with me. Hopefully, when I become better acquainted with the intricacies of role-play, such a scenario would be good backdrop.

IC: Uncle Noel would like to ask Iuthia whether his former statement of declaring war on nations that went to war with the High Cabal (since Iuthia resisted war due to humanitarian reasons) still stands?
Iuthia
08-09-2003, 02:34
You mis-understand the context of that statment. We will delcare war on any nation that kills large amounts of innocent people during any of the up-coming wars. At the time some of the nations were talking about turning High Cabal to dust. However, Iuthia will not tollerate such behavour as it is un-becoming of a liberation force.

We also felt within our right to defend any nation we wish should anyone declare war against a liberator... of course, this is probably not going to happen as most the liberators can defend themselves.
08-09-2003, 02:45
Uncle Noel would like to ask his fellow dictator, errr he means 'instrument of the people's will', whether a limit exists on the number of innocents that can be killed before it becomes unacceptable? Uncle Noel's studies of the issue show that many nations seem more than willing to turn the High Cabal to dust.

And Uncle Noel would like to denounce you all as imperialist warmongerers.

again.
Iuthia
08-09-2003, 02:55
aka-Young One[/i]]whether a limit exists on the number of innocents that can be killed before it becomes unacceptable?

You know, you can't be much of a Dictator if you don't know the answer to that one.

The number is always how much I say it is, which is a constantly changing number depending on when you ask me and in which context. However the default answer would be "one" but only if it was on purpose. After that I just ask the other nations to be careful not to do anything which could be seen as a war crime.

This includes (I'm sorry to say) the use of:

Cluster Bombs
MOAB's
Fuel Bombs
Daisy Cutters (assuming this isn't the MOAB... I ain't all that good with retro weaponary)

I want this to be done carefully seeing as they are saving these people not killing them over some territorial war.

However, I will be the judge of any and all incidents of innocent deaths reported to me. Chances are that I will not get involved unless someone really screws up.

OOC: I think you have the wrong end of the stick... won't be attacking the liberators any time in the future. Anyways, I've already sorted out most of the things I needed to sort out with my enemy in telegram of course. This is all OOC, so try and claim you know my plans or anything.
08-09-2003, 09:53
Meanwhile, the 2000 OCNWC battleships impose a blockade upon High Cabal and my 1,600,000 Goliath (OOC:ultraheavy) tanks are sweeping through the countryside(OOC: they're on the roads) to try to stop any senior High Cabal officials from escaping.

You realise that in all your bluster, Uncle Noel may have already have sped the High Cabal leadership away. At this moment the good Cardinal of Sambagua could even be having lunch in one of Uncle Noel's many palaces.

OOC:I did say try to stop. NOT to stop, but to try to stop.

IC: The destroyers, fighters and infantry have stopped destroying the airports/runways by now. The infantry have reboarded the destroyers. A quarter of OC's space forces are going towards each military base and should arrive within a day
08-09-2003, 12:27
aka-Young One[/i]]whether a limit exists on the number of innocents that can be killed before it becomes unacceptable?

You know, you can't be much of a Dictator if you don't know the answer to that one.

The number is always how much I say it is, which is a constantly changing number depending on when you ask me and in which context. However the default answer would be "one" but only if it was on purpose. After that I just ask the other nations to be careful not to do anything which could be seen as a war crime.

This includes (I'm sorry to say) the use of:

Cluster Bombs
MOAB's
Fuel Bombs
Daisy Cutters (assuming this isn't the MOAB... I ain't all that good with retro weaponary)

I want this to be done carefully seeing as they are saving these people not killing them over some territorial war.

However, I will be the judge of any and all incidents of innocent deaths reported to me. Chances are that I will not get involved unless someone really screws up.

OOC: I think you have the wrong end of the stick... won't be attacking the liberators any time in the future. Anyways, I've already sorted out most of the things I needed to sort out with my enemy in telegram of course. This is all OOC, so try and claim you know my plans or anything.

Uncle Noel knew this but hoped he could use the details of Iuthia's statement to force him into war. He realises that this isn't the case. Uncle Noel accepts the changing face of war but was basically trying to trick Iuthia into either going to war or to withdraw the statement. He accepts however that Iuthia has won this little diplomatic game and also shows the desperation of allies of the High Cabal in preventing that particular nation's destruction.
08-09-2003, 12:30
[quote="Iuthia"][quote=Uncle Noel-aka-Young One]

Uncle Noel may be inexperienced, but that does not mean he has the foolishness of youth.

OCC: Yes it was the wrong end of the stick, but twas all a ruse. Not a particularly good one but hey, a ruse nonetheless.
08-09-2003, 12:55
OCC: Also like to mention that the Orthanc Alliance has fallen and Lord Saruman with it. Or at least, that's what the post said. So just in case you were lining up for a big battle then you can send troops home since there probably isn't going to be one.
Iuthia
08-09-2003, 13:00
Uncle Noel may be inexperienced, but that does not mean he has the foolishness of youth.


OOC: I simply like adding salt to the wound... a while back I did the same to one of High Cabal's allies, "aka-small pitiful nation"
08-09-2003, 13:10
OCC: Superpower preogative I suppose? :D
08-09-2003, 16:38
Having re-read this topic again, Uncle Noel is particularly shocked by the gung-ho manner of the United World States. While Uncle Noel opposes this war and its imperialist overtones, he also accepts that war is a serious business. Therefore Uncle Noel warns the United World States that its actions will be carefully scrutinised over the coming months and that Uncle Noel will also consult his father, the sun god Inti, over whether or not a trade embargo should be created.
09-09-2003, 10:13
And Uncle Noel would like to denounce you all as imperialist warmongerers.

again.

And the UWS would like to squish you, but we're busy with The High Cabal at the moment. In the meantime, stop annoying us.
09-09-2003, 11:23
And Uncle Noel would like to denounce you all as imperialist warmongerers.

again.

And the UWS would like to squish you, but we're busy with The High Cabal at the moment. In the meantime, stop annoying us.

This statement justifies the stance of Uncle Noel.
Scandavian States
09-09-2003, 12:24
OOC: Olympus Coliseum and UWS, please clean up your act and RP better than this or get out. You cannot just assume that you successfully landed your troops and are now driving into his country. OC, 2000 battleships? Most don't even have ten and there is no way in hell that you could afford one million tanks. This is an out and out godmod and I won't be associated with it, both of you be gone.
Scandavian States
09-09-2003, 12:34
On a more serious note, the SLS Victor has joined the task force in orbit above High Cabal. This ship will be the last Conqueror built for 1st Battlegroup, Home Defense Fleet. With the Victor comes the 8th and 9th Aerospace Fighter Regiments and the fighters stationed on the dropships have been pulled together to form the 10th Aerospace Fighter Regiment. The next ship to join the task force will be a Suffren class Destroyer.
09-09-2003, 14:37
OOC: Olympus Coliseum and UWS, please clean up your act and RP better than this or get out.

OOC:If you read the topic again, you will see that I have not RPed anything yet. All I did was declare war, verbally abuse the High Cabal, and tell UN (heh, how appropriate) to stop bugging me.
Scandavian States
09-09-2003, 15:01
OOC: Olympus Coliseum and UWS, please clean up your act and RP better than this or get out.

OOC:If you read the topic again, you will see that I have not RPed anything yet. All I did was declare war, verbally abuse the High Cabal, and tell UN (heh, how appropriate) to stop bugging me.

OOC:
UWS: Fine, you may stay for now, but screw up and you're gone.
OC: My judgement stands, begone godmodder.
Uncle Noel: You've made your peace, please stop harassing the other kids or I'll spank you.
09-09-2003, 15:20
Forgive me if I don't agree with your actions, but I will intervene with the might of my allies behind me if these horrific actions are not ceased.
Scandavian States
09-09-2003, 15:52
Forgive me if I don't agree with your actions, but I will intervene with the might of my allies behind me if these horrific actions are not ceased.

You wouldn't be threatening Iuthia and me would you? If so, I'm going to have to ask UNAOTO to join the fight and that would be bad for you.
Haverton
09-09-2003, 22:10
If High Cabal doesn't respond, I'm gone.
Iuthia
09-09-2003, 22:20
You wouldn't be threatening Iuthia and me would you? If so, I'm going to have to ask UNAOTO to join the fight and that would be bad for you.

Firstly, he might be talking about the actions of High Cabal, seeing as he was the first one to post (thus the first part of the thread people read).

Secondly, I'm not involved in any fighting, I'm just placing sanctions against High Cabal (i.e no trading with Iuthia).

Thirdly, UNAOTO wouldn't get involved in such a mess like this. They have bigger messes to get involved in. However, they may help out if you get attacked by a nation with alot of power... plus, a few of them are involved in other things. I suggest that they are the last option in this conflict, but that will not be needed unless a huge organisation gets involved.

You and the others are big enough as it is, stop worrying.

Anyways, the way this thread is going there will be no war.
11-09-2003, 08:57
I thought Olympic Coliseum was going to draw a map of The High Cabal?

I can wait 24 hours at most before I forget about the map and do without it.
Scandavian States
11-09-2003, 14:20
We're pulling out until Cabal shows some life on this thread. Iuthia, please let me know when he finally comes back.
12-09-2003, 12:23
We're pulling out until Cabal shows some life on this thread. Iuthia, please let me know when he finally comes back.

So are we. (We may not come back here, we're going to intervene elsewhere using the forces that were freed up by this cancellation.)
15-09-2003, 04:40
I thought Olympic Coliseum was going to draw a map of The High Cabal?

I can wait 24 hours at most before I forget about the map and do without it.

My bad, I closed the thing and then had to go eat dinner and forgot about the map. Oh well, im just going to take someone else's map and change the names
Iuthia
15-09-2003, 04:43
Wars cancelled man, his nation might as well of sunk into the sea.