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Ercolanan Military Developments

La Marina d'Ercolana

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Due to the recent radical restructuring and overhauling of the Ercolanan Armed Forces a completely new Navy is being put into service.

Nettuna Class Aircraft Carrier

Displacement

Full Load: 28,380 tons
Design: 20,000 tons
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Dimensions

Length Overall: 680' (207.3m)
Length Waterline: 660' (201m)
Beam: 96.5' (29.4m)
Draft: 23' (7m)
Flight Deck Length: 759' (231.3m)
Flight Deck Width: 98.7' (30m)
Hangar: N/A
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Propulsion

Boilers: 8 Yarrow
Turbines: 4 Parsons geared steam
Horsepower: 148,000 shp
Shafts: 4
Endurance: N/A
Speed: 30 knts
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Armament

Main Battery: 8 x 5.3" (135mm)/45 cal Model 1938 in 4 twin mounts
AAW: 12 x 65mm/64 cal
22 x 20mm/65 cal in twin and single mounts
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Additional Information

Airplanes: 53
Armor: side 70 mm., deck 80 mm.
Crew: 107 officers, 1312 petty officers and sailors.


http://www.warships1.com/ITcvl01_Aquila.jpg






Rudolfo Class Battleships

Dimensions

Length(O/A): 780.2' (237.8m)
Length(W/L): 762.5' (232.4m)
Beam: 107.9' (32.9m)
Draft: 31.5' (9.6m) light
34.4' (10.5m) full
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Displacement

Full Load: 45,963 tons
Normal: 43,835 tons
Standard light: 41,377 tons
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Propulsion

Boilers: 8 Yarrow high pressure water-tubed
Turbines: 4 x Belluzzo geared steam
Horsepower: 140,000 shp
Shafts: 4
2 rudders in series
Endurance: 4,580 NM @ 16 knts
Max Speed: 30 kts
31.3/31.4 knots achieved in trials
Oil Bunkerage: 4,000 tons oil
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Protection

Belt forward: 3.9"- 9.8" (100-248.9mm)
Midship: 13.8" (350.5mm)
Aft: 2.4"-5.1" (61-129.5mm)
Torpedo Bulkhead: 1.6" (40.6mm)
Deck: 3" (35.6-45.7mm)
upper splinter deck: 0.5" (12.7mm)
lower armored deck:
forward: 3.9"-6.4" (100-162.6mm)
midships: 2.8" (71mm)
aft: 4.1" (104mm)
Main Turrets: 11.4" (289.6mm) face
8.26" (210mm) sides
3.9" (100mm) roof
13.8" (350.5mm) barbette sides
Secondary Turrets: 5.3" (134.6mm) front
2.4" (61mm) sides
1.4" (35.6mm) roof
3.9" (100mm) barbettes sides
Conning Tower: 10.2" (259mm)
7.9" (200mm) communication shaft
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Armament

Main Battery: 9 x Ansaldo/OTO 15" (381mm)/50 cal Model 1934 in 3 triple turrets
2 forward 1 aft
Secondary: 12 x Ansaldo 6" (152mm)/55 cal Model 1936 in 4 triple mounts
AAW: 12 x OTO 3.5" (89mm)/50 cal Model 1939 in 12 single mounts
20 x Breda 37mm/54 cal in 10 twin Model 1938 mounts
20-28 x Breda 20mm/65 cal in twin mounts
numerous 13.2mm /75.7 cal AA added
Other: 4 x 4.72"/40 cal starshell guns
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Aircraft

Aircraft: 2 x Reggiane Re2000
w/1 catapult
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Radars

Air Search: N/A
Surface Search: N/A
Fire Control: N/A
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Complement

Usual: 1,872-1,960


http://www.warships1.com/ITbb05_VVeneto_prtfrt.jpg






Vittoria Class Battlecruisers

Dimensions

Length(O/A) 808' 6.0"
Length(W/L) 791' 6.0"
Beam 90' 9.375"
Draft 30' 2.348"
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Displacement

Maximum 34,253 tons
Light Ship 25,971 tons
Design 27,000 tons
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Propulsion

Boilers: 8 Yarrow high pressure water-tubed
Turbines: 4 x Belluzzo geared steam
Horsepower: 140,000 shp
Shafts: 4
Speed: 32+ knts
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Endurance

Design: 12,000 NM @ 15 knots
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Protection

Main Side Belt: 9" on .875 " STS plate inclined 10 degrees
Lower Side Belt: 5"
Deck Main: 2.8"
Barbettes: 13" sides
Turrets face: 12.8" -sides 6" -back 5.25" -roof 5"
Conning Tower: 10.6" sides-5" roof
Immunity Zone: 23,500 to 25,000 yards against 12"/50
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Armament

Main guns: 9 x Ansaldo/OTO 15" (381mm)/50 cal Model 1934 in 3 triple turrets
2 forward 1 aft
Medium Secondary: 12 x 5"/38 cal (Mk 12) in six twin turrets
1 forward 1 aft 2 port 2 starboard
Heavy: 12 x OTO 3.5" (89mm)/50 cal Model 1939 in 12 single mounts
Light: 20-25 x Breda 20mm/65 cal in twin mounts
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Complement

Design: 1,517 (73 off. 1,444 enlisted)
Usual: 1,500-1,900


http://www.warships1.com/UScb2_Guam_strbrdaft.jpg






Cavallo Class Heavy Crusiers

Dimensions

Length(O/A): 599.73' (182.7m)
Length(W/L): 579' (176.5m)
Beam: 67.58' (20.6m)
Draught Standard: 19.4' (5.9m)
Draught Maximum: 23.6' (7.2m)
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Displacement

Full Load: 14,530 tons (14762 tonnes)
Normal: 13,580 tons (13797 tonnes)
Standard: 11,870 tons (12060 tonnes)
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Propulsion

Boilers: 8 Thornycraft 3 drum type
Turbines: Parsons singler reduction geared steam
Horsepower: 95,000 shp
118,000 shp achieved
Shafts: 2
Endurance: 3,200 NM @ 25 knts
5,230 NM @ 16 knts
Max Speed: 32 kts
34.2 achieved on trials (without armament)
Oil Bunkerage: 2,116 tons
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Protection

Side Belt: 5.91"-3.94" (100-150mm)
Deck: 2.75" (70mm)
Turrets: 5.5"-4.7" (140-120mm)
Barbettes: 5.9"-5.5" (150-140mm )
Conning Tower: 2" (51mm)
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Armament

Main Battery: 8 x 8" (204mm)/53 cal Model 1927 in 4 twin turrets
2 forward 2 aft
AAW: 17 x 3.9" (100mm)/47 cal Model 1924 in 6 twin mounts
6 x 40mm/70 cal OTO Breda AA
8 x 37mm/54 cal AA
8 x 13.2mm/75.7 cal MG
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Radars

Air Search N/A
Surface Search N/A
Navigation N/A
Fire Control N/A
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Aircraft

Fixed Wing 2 floatplanes
w/ 1catapult
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Complement

Usual: 31 officers
810 crew


http://www.warships1.com/ITca05_Zara-40.jpg






Bascilico Class Light Cruisers

Displacement

Standard: 6,000 Tons
Full Load: 6,533 Tons
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Dimensions

Overall: 505' (154m)
Waterline: 462.6' (141m)
Beam: 47.5' (14.47m)
Draft: 17.4' (5.3m)
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Propulsion

Boilers: 4 x 3 drum type
Turbines: 2 geared turbines
Shafts: 2
Horsepower: 40,000 shp
Endurance: N/A
Speed 28 knts designed
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Armor

Side: 2.36" (60mm)
Deck: 2" (30mm)
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Armament

Main Battery: 6 x 5.3" (135mm)/45 cal Model 1938 (8x2)
AAW: 10 x 65mm/64 cal AA
14 x 20mm/65 cal AA
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Complement

Usual:
19 Officers
561 crewmen

http://www.warships1.com/ITcl15_ARegolo_strbrdMay42.jpg






Lancia Class Destroyers

Dimensions

Length(O/A): 376.5'
Length(W/L): 360'
Beam: 39.5'
Draft: 12.5'
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Displacement

Full Load: 2,500 tons
Standard: 2,050 tons
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Propulsion

Boilers: 4 Cino & Luvia
Turbines: 2 Resato geared steam
Horsepower: 60,000
Shafts: 2
Range: N/A
Max Speed: 36.5 knts
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Armament

Main Gun: 5 x 5"/38 in 5 single turrets
2 forward 1 amidships 2 aft
AAW Heavy: 12 x OTO 3.5" (89mm)/50 cal Model 1939 in 12 single mounts
AAW Light: 20-25 x Breda 20mm/65 cal in twin mounts
Depth Charges: Variable
Torpedoes: 5 x 21" twin tubes
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Radars

Air Search N/A
Surface Search N/A
Fire Control N/A
Sonars N/A
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Aircraft

Fixed Wing: N/A
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Complement

Usual: 362

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Ariete Class Fast Destroyers

Dimensions

Length(O/A): 461.6' (140.7m)
Beam: 48' (14.65m)
Draft: 15' (4.6m)
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Displacement

Full Load: 4,554 tons
Standard: 3,950 tons
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Propulsion

Boilers 4 x Foster-Wheeler (43 kg/cm2; 450-deg C)
Turbines 2 geared steam
Horsepower 73,000 shp
Shafts 2
Endurance 4,000 NM @ 25 knts
Max Speed 38 knts
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Armament

Main Gun 2 x OTO Breda 5"(127mm) /54 cal in two single mounts forward
Secondary Gun 4 x OTO Melara 3"(76mm)/62 cal
AAW: 20x Breda 20mm/65 cal in twin mounts
Torpedoes: 4 x 21" tubes
Other: 4 depth charge launchers
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Complement

Usual: 250 (20 officers, 230 enlisted)

http://www.warships1.com/ITddg551_Audace_prt.jpg






Ursa Class Corvettes

Displacement: 740 t.
Length: 64.4 m.
Width: 8.7 m. Draft: 2.8 m.
Engine: 2D 2E
HP: 2500
Propellers: 2
Speed: 28 kts.
Fuel: 70 t.
Range: 3450@10
Armament: 1x100 , 2x37, 7x20
Torpedo Launchers: 2
Crew: 5 officers, 105 petty officers and sailors

8 single throwers (mud hoppers), four on each side, and two Gatteschi dischargers installed aft. Each thrower can launch a 150 kg bomb 100 to 140 meters away. Each thrower can launch in rapid succession up to three bombs before it has to be reloaded. The two Matteschi dischargers installed one next to the other aft are equipped with six 2-charge trolleys, which upon command could be dropped into the water. This armament allows for the contemporaneous dropping of 12 bombs for a total of 1,800 kg of explosive which makes a “pocket” around the submarine under attack. Some of the corvettes are also equipped with 2 antisubmarine towing torpedoed type “Ginocchio”.

http://www.regiamarina.net/arsenals/ships_it/corv/images/sfinge.jpg

Radar

The Lince Piccolo, using a parabolic antenna is able to operate up to 60 kilometers. The Lince Brande, based on a large square antenna on a rotating platform, is able to operate up to 120 kilometers.

http://www.regiamarina.net/others/radar/images/lince.jpg


Submarines

Fantasma Class

Dimensions

Length(O/A): 312'
Beam (Width): 27'
Draft (Height): 15'

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Displacement

Surfaced: 2423 tons
Submerged: 1835 tons

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Propulsion

Turbines: 2 turbines
Diesels: 4 Breda-Vecchia Engines
Electric: 4 Vecchia Electric
Designed SHPL continuous: 5,400 surfaced
2,740 submerged
Maximum: 162
Shaft: 1 Shaft, 1 Propeller
Fuel Capacity: 112,000 Gallons
Range: 11,800 NM @ 10 knts surfaced
95 NM @ 5 knts submerged
Diving Depth: 300' +
Surface Speed: 21.75 knots
Submerged Speed: 9.75 knots

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Armament

ASW 10 x 21inch torpedo tubes 6 in the bow, 4 in stern
24 torpedo capacity
Guns 1 x 4"

http://www.regiamarina.net/subs/info/images/torelli.jpg


*reserved for Submarines and Insidious Submersibles*

Small Arms:

B-33 Berettino Rifle

Caliber: 7.62x51 mm NATO (.308 Winchester)
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 1095 mm
Barrel length: 491 mm
Weigth: 4.4 kg empty
Fire: Semi-automatic
Magazine capacity: 20 rounds

http://www.autoweapons.com/photosn/533bm59b.jpg

M29 Berettino Pistol

Type: Single Action
Chamber: 9x23mm
Weight unloaded: 1085 g
Length: 215 mm
Barrel length: 122 mm
Capacity: 9 rounds

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/star_b.jpg

M36 Giordio Submachine Gun

Caliber: 9x19mm Luger/Para
Weight: 3.9 kg
Lenght (stock closed/open): 570 / 745 mm
Barrel lenght: 203 mm
Rate of fire: ca. 450 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Effective range: 50 meters

http://www.autoweapons.com/photosn/510smitha.jpg

M23 Berettino Machine Gun

Caliber: 7.62x51 mm NATO (.308 Winchester)
Action: Water Cooled
Overall length: 923 mm
Barrel length: 492 mm
Weigth: 7 kg empty
Fire: full-automatic
Magazine capacity: Belt Feed

http://www.autoweapons.com/photosn/tippsf.jpg

Martello M1 Rocket Launcher

Projectile Weight: 3.5 kg
Weight: 15 pounds, approx.
Overall Length: 60.25" assembled, assembled for firing
Length of Barrel: 30 in
Firing Mechanism: Electric
Ammunition: HE, AT
Length: 23.55 in
Charge: 1.93 lbs COMP B, in Shaped Charge
Muzzle velocity: 340 f.p.s.
Range: Maximum, 980 yards (160 yards, effective)
Fuze: Rocket, BD M404, Nondelay
Armor Penetration: Approx 8in homogeneous plate
Note: The heavy armor plating on the T-34 ranged from 0.79in to 3.54 in

http://www.rt66.com/~korteng/SmallArms/images/bazooka.gif

Vehicles:

Type 1 Antiaircraft Halftrack

Crew: 5
Armament: 4 Quad Mounted Breda Model 37.8 mm Heavy Machine Guns
Capacity: 5,000 rounds
Max Speed: 50 mph
Armor: 6 to 12.72 mm

http://www.angelfire.com/ill/agrigento/antiair.bmp

Carro Armato M13/40

Crew: 4
Engine Power: 145 bhp
Combat Weight: 30,870 lbs
Max Speed: 31.8 km/h
Length: 16.13 ft (4.915 m)
Width: 7.22 ft (2.2 m)
Main Gun: 47 mm (1.85 in)
Machine Gun: 8 mm Breda Model 38,coaxial; twin mount Breda Model 38, hull; AA mount as well
Height: 7.78 ft (2.37 m)
Armor: 14 mm (0.55 in) to 40 mm (1.58 in)

http://www.d-b.ne.jp/t-key/army/fr-it/it_m13-40.jpg

Carro Armato M15/42

Crew: 4
Engine Power: 192 bhp
Combat Weight: 34,800 lbs
Max Speed: 25 mph
Length: 16' 6.5"
Width: 7' 3.75"
Main Gun: 47 mm L/40 Ansaldo
Machine Gun: 8 mm Breda Model 38,coaxial; twin mount Breda Model 38, hull; AA mount as well
Height: 7' 10"
Armor: 14 mm to 45 mm

http://www.wwiivehicles.com/images/italy/m15_42_01.jpg

Carro Pesante P26/40

Crew: 4
Engine Power: 420 bhp
Combat Weight: 58,240 lbs
Max Speed: 22 mph
Length: 18' 10 1/3"
Width: 9' 1/3"
Main Gun: 75 mm L/34
Machine Gun: 8 mm Breda Model 38, coaxial, hull; AA mount as well
Height: 8' 2.5"
Armor: 14 mm to 56 mm

http://www.d-b.ne.jp/t-key/army/fr-it/it_p26-40.jpg

AB 43

Crew: 4
Engine Power: 93 hp
Combat Weight: 16,732 lb
Max Speed: 56 mph
Length: 17' 3.5"
Width: 6' 5"
Main Gun: 47 mm
Machine Gun: 8 mm Breda modello 38, coaxial, rear hull
Height: 8' 1"

http://www.wwiivehicles.com/images/italy/ab_43_01.jpg

Semovente da 75/18 Su Scafo M 41

Crew: 4
Engine Power: 125 hp
Combat Weight: 26,000 lb
Max Speed: 20 mph
Lenght: 16' 2"
Width: 7' 3"
Main Gun: 75 mm Model 34 L/18
Machine Gun: 8 mm Breda Modello 38
Height: 6'1"

http://www.wwiivehicles.com/images/italy/semovent_75_18_01.jpg

Semovente M 42L da 105/25

Crew: 3
Weight: 15.8 tons
Speed: 35kph
Armament: 1 x 105/25mm Gun, 1 x 8mm MG
Length: 16' 9"
Width: 7' 11"
Height: 5' 9"
Armor: 15 - 50mm

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Italy/Ita-Semovente-M42L-da-10525-1.JPG

Semovente da 149/40

Crew: 2
Engine Power: 186 hp
Combat Weight: 52,911 lb
Max Speed: 22 mph
Length: 21' 7.75"
Width: 9' 10"
Main Gun: Canone da 149/40 modello 35
Machine Gun: 8 mm
Height: 6' 6.75"

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Italy/Ita-semovente-da-14940.JPG

Semovente M 41M da 90/53

Crew: 4
Engine Power: 145
Weight: 38,080 lb
Speed: 21 mph
Main Gun: Ansaldo M90/53 Model 39
Machine Gun: 8 mm
Length: 17' 1"
Width: 7' 3"
Height: 7'
Armor: 14 - 40mm

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Italy/Ita-Swnivebte-M-41M-da-9053.JPG

Aircraft


Monoplane Fighters

Macchi Mc.205 "Veltro"

Engine: DB.605/A o RC.58
Total HP: 1,475
Wing span: m 10.50
Length: m 8.85
Height: m 3.05
Wing area: m2. 16.80
Weight: kg 2,524
Max weight: kg 3,224
Max speed: km/h 650 @ 7,400 m
Range: km 1,040
Max elevation: m 11,350
Armament: 2 x 12.7mm + 2 x 7.7mm
Crew: 1

http://www.regiamarina.net/arsenals/planes_it/macchi/images/mc205a.jpg


Macchi Mc.2001 Jet Fighter
Entering Design Phases Now!!

Engine: Alfa Romeo Asso L.121 RC40
Total HP: hp 900
Wing span: m 14.32
Length: m 12.88
Height: m 4.70
Wing area: m2 36.52
Weight: kg 3,460
Max weight: kg 4,409
Max speed: km/h 375 @ 3000 m without burners
km/h 765 @ 3000 m with burners
Range: km. 3,520
Armament: 2 x 12.7mm + 2 x 7.7mm
Crew: 2

http://www.regiamarina.net/arsenals/planes_it/jet/images/campcap1.jpg

Seaplanes & Flying Boats


Cant.Z 501 "Gabbiano"

Engine: Isotta Fraschini "Asso" 750R
Total HP: hp. 750 X 2
Wing Span: m. 22.50
Length: m. 15
Height: m. 4.43
Wing area: mq. 62
Weight: kg. 3,500
Max Weight: kg. 5,950
Speed: km/h 275
Range: km. 2,600
Max Elevation: m. 7,000
Armament: 3 x 7.7 mm
Crew: 5

http://www.regiamarina.net/arsenals/planes_it/idroplanes/images/cantZ501a.jpg

FIAT RS.14

Engine: FIAT A.74 Rc.38
Total HP: hp. 840 X 2
Wing Span: m. 19.54
Length: m. 14
Height: m. m. 5.51
Wing area: mq. 50
Weight: kg. 5,410
Max Weight: kg. 8.470
Speed: km/h 382 @ 4500 m
Range: km. 1,900
Max Elevation: m. 6,300
Armament: 2 x 7.7 mm + 1 x 12.7 mm
Crew: 5

http://www.regiamarina.net/arsenals/planes_it/idroplanes/images/rs14.jpg


Torpedo Bombers

Savoia Marchetti SM.84

Engine: Piaggio P.IX RC 40
Total HP: hp. 1000
Wing Span: m. 21.13
Length: m. 17.93
Height: m 4.59
Wing area: m2. 61.00
Weight: kg. 8,847
Max Weight: kg. 13,288
Speed: km/h 432 a 4600 m
Range: km. 1,830
Max Elevation: m 7,900
Armament 4 x 12,7mm
Crew: 6

http://www.regiamarina.net/arsenals/planes_it/torpedo_bombers/images/Sm84b.jpg

Heavy Bombers

Piaggio P 108

Engine: Piaggio P.IIX RC 35
Total HP: hp. 1350 x 4
Wing Span: m. 32.00
Length: m. 22.92
Height: m. 7.70
Wing area: m2. 135.34
Weight: kg. 17,320
Max Weight: kg. 29,885
Speed: km/h 420 a 3,900 m
Range: km. 3,520
Max Elevation: m 8,050
Armament: 6 x 12,7 mm + 1 x 12,7 mm + 2 x 7.7 mm
Crew: 6
Payload: Kg. 3,500

http://www.regiamarina.net/arsenals/planes_it/heavy_bombers/images/p108a.jpg






*Reserved for Aircraft*

Hmmm. BM-59 = M-14.
(Scratches head)

BINGO!
:oops:

Nice cruiser and Aircraft Carrier

Hmmm. BM-59 = M-14.
(Scratches head)

BINGO!
:oops:

Yes it was based on the M-1 Garand, like the M-14, but it is Italian made and a real gun!!

Nice cruiser and Aircraft Carrier

Thank you, it is WW2 tech btw.

The most cost-efficient way to build a new rifle was to redesign the old good M1, and this was done by Pietro Beretta SPa. New gun, designated as Beretta BM59, was adopted in 1959 and served with Italian, Indonesian and Marocco armies. It should be noted that earliest BM59s were manufactured from available M1 parts, including rechambered barrels. In the late 1980s BM59 was rplaced in Italian service with Beretta AR70/90 assault rifles.

Basically, the BM59 can be described as re-chambered M1 Garand, with addition of the removable 20 rounds magazine and select fire trigger. Another addition was a flash-hider of NATO-standard diameter, which also served as a rifle grenade launcher. To launch grenades, one must turn on gas cut-off valve by raising grenade front sight, mounted on the gas block. If it will not be done, the excessive gas pressure will damage the rifle. BM59 is a gas operated rifle, with gas chamber and gas piston located under the barrel. Chamber locks by the rotating bolt with two massive lugs. Fire mode selector/safety switch is located at the front of the triggerguard, charging handle is attached to the gas rod and reciprocates during the fire cycyle.

don't your warships have weak deck armor? :? *scratches head*

don't your warships have weak deck armor? :? *scratches head*

not really, maybe if you said one in particular I would be able to get a comparision for you.


(BTW Ercolana is my WW2 era puppet :wink: )

well i missed the "lower armored deck" part....but the Nelsons had 6.32" armor though, which would compare favoribly to your Rudolfos i think ...

well i missed the "lower armored deck" part....but the Nelsons had 6.32" armor though, which would compare favoribly to your Rudolfos i think ...

Anyways, thanks for the input I've been working on these things all night, mixing and matching and adding stuff.

no probelm...of course i shouldn't talk about deck armor when my battleships are copies of English WWI Dreadnoughts with 0.25" armor ;) a single well-placed shell and BOOM! :(

Bump for Airplanes

A lot of Ercolana's military tech is more in line with Walmington's, I think, than some of the other (potential/) combatants in the war. Our piston fighters would probably be better matched against each other than mine against the Asians' or German Fw 190s and such, or yours against late model Iansislian efforts.

Glad to see WoS hasn't been the only one of us yet to get a jet into active service, too.

Military staff here are a little concerned by the heavy bomber- we still lack one of our own. Sadly the devistating potential (offensively or as a threat) hasn't quite dawned in Walmy as yet.

Your B-33 rifle has surely to be amongst the best standard infantry weapons going in our time frame. It's really a whole different standard of thinking to that which prevails in Walmington.

(I know this is a bit late- I did try to post once a few days ago, but the damn forum kept crapping out on me)

Armored Cars and Self Propelled Guns up now.

The Semovente da 149/40 i don't like the look of (that is to say ..i sort of do, and thus wish you didn't have). The other SPGs I am familiar with (God knows how), and was rather expecting to see you issue at some point. The 149/40 modello 35- what bore is that? I wondered if it was..well, 149mm, but it doesn't look it. I'm a bit worried about that as a tank-killer. In confined areas it has the usual drawbacks of a turretless vehicle, but in deserts or such..as may be found in north Africa... :(
I really don't think we have anything to counter with.


The armoured car..it looks quite sleek, actually. I'm glad they're not usually battle-winners, as WoS's is a little less well profiled, and, though it comes in three marks, most are less powerfully armed.

I suppose when its considered that Iansisle has only previous generation WoS tanks and only very recently received the first modern ones, and Calarca has only armoured cars, yours has potential as..an armour killer, never mind a scout as such vehicles are employed by WoS.

(sorry If i'm rambling - no fully IC post right now- i'm at the end of my fourth pint, so being dignified is just starting to seem like a hassle. By the time I finished an IC post Mainwaring would be blaming America and threatening to take the Panama canal again ;) )

The Semovente da 149/40 i don't like the look of (that is to say ..i sort of do, and thus wish you didn't have). The other SPGs I am familiar with (God knows how), and was rather expecting to see you issue at some point. The 149/40 modello 35- what bore is that? I wondered if it was..well, 149mm, but it doesn't look it. I'm a bit worried about that as a tank-killer. In confined areas it has the usual drawbacks of a turretless vehicle, but in deserts or such..as may be found in north Africa... :(
I really don't think we have anything to counter with.


The armoured car..it looks quite sleek, actually. I'm glad they're not usually battle-winners, as WoS's is a little less well profiled, and, though it comes in three marks, most are less powerfully armed.

I suppose when its considered that Iansisle has only previous generation WoS tanks and only very recently received the first modern ones, and Calarca has only armoured cars, yours has potential as..an armour killer, never mind a scout as such vehicles are employed by WoS.

(sorry If i'm rambling - no fully IC post right now- i'm at the end of my fourth pint, so being dignified is just starting to seem like a hassle. By the time I finished an IC post Mainwaring would be blaming America and threatening to take the Panama canal again ;) )

The ones Ercolana uses are 149 mm, Italy primarily used that size as well, but I couldn't find a good picture of it.

The Semovente da 149/40 i don't like the look of (that is to say ..i sort of do, and thus wish you didn't have). The other SPGs I am familiar with (God knows how), and was rather expecting to see you issue at some point. The 149/40 modello 35- what bore is that? I wondered if it was..well, 149mm, but it doesn't look it. I'm a bit worried about that as a tank-killer. In confined areas it has the usual drawbacks of a turretless vehicle, but in deserts or such..as may be found in north Africa... :(
I really don't think we have anything to counter with.


The armoured car..it looks quite sleek, actually. I'm glad they're not usually battle-winners, as WoS's is a little less well profiled, and, though it comes in three marks, most are less powerfully armed.

I suppose when its considered that Iansisle has only previous generation WoS tanks and only very recently received the first modern ones, and Calarca has only armoured cars, yours has potential as..an armour killer, never mind a scout as such vehicles are employed by WoS.

(sorry If i'm rambling - no fully IC post right now- i'm at the end of my fourth pint, so being dignified is just starting to seem like a hassle. By the time I finished an IC post Mainwaring would be blaming America and threatening to take the Panama canal again ;) )

The ones Ercolana uses are 149 mm, Italy primarily used that size as well, but I couldn't find a good picture of it.

Got the new Pic!

(heh - I just noticed this thread.

Erc - or Ag, I suppose? - I'm just wondering where your naval asssets tend to be concentrated. I've still got a battlefleet somewhere between Ascension Island and Trinidad...just wanted to know if I should be worried ;))

(heh - I just noticed this thread.

Erc - or Ag, I suppose? - I'm just wondering where your naval asssets tend to be concentrated. I've still got a battlefleet somewhere between Ascension Island and Trinidad...just wanted to know if I should be worried ;))

Well the major portions of my fleet are in Ercolana itself, I have a large stockpile in Gallaga as well (which I think is under attack right now) and ships are running in between Erc and Karachi constantly to take out merchant vessels.

(And Naval Group III Corps in the Med. is hugging the north African coast, clinging to the coat-trails of British warships in an effort to avoid being targeted on a whim :) )

Bump for Rocket Launcher

Bump for sub

Mh, too fast for my liking.
Glad I am that both our nations take up space in the Atlantic!
[pets ASW aircraft]

Mh, too fast for my liking.
Glad I am that both our nations take up space in the Atlantic!
[pets ASW aircraft]

Do you think it is too fast...as in godmodding, because its pretty comparable to other WWII Subs? Or were you just commenting as the primary target of its torpedos??

and I have an AA vehicle up.. I am enjoying not having the US in this Rp... :twisted:

i would like to purchase a Air craft carrier ( or u will die :twisted: )

i would like to purchase a Air craft carrier ( or u will die :twisted: )

As Ercolana: It's ww2 tech...Maybe if you were involved in the RP (and on the Axis side) I would do it, but I think I need all the ships I can get for an all out war like this.

As Agrigento: If you are interested in cheap aircraft carriers, modern tech, Telegram me.

ooc:No no, I suppose that would be a concern for me ic, rather than occ..though it wasn't really an ic post. Hm. I notice they've changed the title dealies given by post ammounts- hehe..Iansisle's a "postmaster general". I am amused.