Cobra Wheeled Light Armoured Vehicle hits the market !
Based on its experience in the design, development and production of light armoured vehicles, the Center for Strategic Scientific Development of the Imperial Armed Forces of Patrua has developed a capable armoured personnel carrier called the Cobra.
It has proven its efficiency and reliability during the conflicts and ongoing peace-keeping missions in Kaduiri and former Legionistan.
The Cobra features a new all-welded one-piece armoured steel hull which offers improved protection against both 5.56mm and 7.62mm small arms fire as well as mines. If required, the Cobra can be delivered with a higher level of armour protection, including protection against 7.62mm armour-piercing projectiles.
The vehicle's fitted with the powerpack and drive train of the US AM General Enhanced Capacity Vehicle 4 x 4. The powerpack is at the front, driver and commander to the immediate rear and the troop compartment extends right to the rear of the vehicle. The Cobra has a compact profile and is transportable by ship, aircraft, helicopter, truck and by rail for rapid deployment. The Cobra has an all-welded steel hull with wide, fully opening side and a large rear door is provided in the rear of the hull which opens to the left and is provided with a bulletproof window and firing port in the upper part. In either side of the rear troop compartment are two bulletproof vision blocks fitted with a firing port below, which allow some of the troops to fire their weapons from within the vehicle.
All this allowing rapid exit of the crew when required. The vehicle also features roof hatches and quick-release three-point locking system. The vehicle has a seating capacity between four and twelve depending on the variant and configuration.
An optional amphibious kit consists of double hydraulic thrusters with joystick control and closing louvres. The system allows the vehicle to enter water without preparation.
A two-piece windscreen and wide side glazing provides good visibility under ballistic protection. The windscreen is fitted with an electrical de-icing system, wipers and washers. The hull also has all round vision blocks. An air conditioning system is fitted as standard.
Standard equipment includes an air-conditioning system, automatic transmission, power steering, firing ports, vision blocks with optional equipment including a central tyre-pressure regulation system, winch, NBC (nuclear, biological, chemical) protection system and night-vision equipment.
Optional equipment includes electrical self recovery winch, infrared driving lamps, smoke grenade dischargers, fire suppression system, night vision periscopes for driver and commander and daytime periscopes for driver and commander.
The baseline Cobra vehicle can be fitted with a variety of turrets and weapon stations on the roof armed with 7.62mm and 12.7mm machine guns.
Specifications
Crew
2 + 11
Configuration
4 x 4
Armament
1x 12.7mm machine gun (typical)
Combat weight
6,000kg
Power-to-weight ratio
31hp/t
Engine
General Motors V-8 diesel developing 190hp coupled to automatic transmission
Length
5.316m
Width
2.156m
Height
1.90m
Max speed
110km/h
Range
550km
Airportable
C-130 Hercules, EA-80 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38933), C-5, C-17, C-141, Il-76, An-12, An-26, An-124 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64942), An-225 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64942)...
Variants
The Cobra vehicle forms a common platform, which can be adapted for various roles and mission requirements including: Armoured Personnel Carrier, Anti-Tank Vehicle, Reconnaissance Vehicle, Ground Surveillance Radar Vehicle, Forward Observation Vehicle, Armoured Ambulance, Armoured Command Post, turreted vehicle for 12.7mm machine gun, 25mm cannon, anti-tank guided missiles such as the TOW missile or surface-to-air missiles (Mistral, Igla-S-UE) and the amphibious version, propelled by two propellers mounted at the rear of the vehicle.
Price
standard: $1,000,000
command vehicle: $1,600,000
ground surveillance radar: $1,500,000
amphibious: $1,250,000
81 mm mortar vehicle: $1,000,000
reconaissance: $900,000
NBC reconaissance: $1,200,000
anti-tank: $1,100,000
anti-aircraft: $1,480,000
ambulance: $1,600,000
Manufacturer
Imperial Armed Forces of Patrua
Strategic Production Centre
http://www.jed.simonides.org/4x4afv/charlie/cobra_series/cobra-apc/cobraapc_002.jpg
Standard APC configuration with machine gun turret
http://www.aselsan.com.tr/msting/mob_kom_kont.JPG
Armoured command configuration
http://www.jed.simonides.org/4x4afv/charlie/cobra_series/cobra-amphibian/cobraamphibian_001.jpg
Amphibious configuration
http://www.aselsan.com.tr/msting/kesgox1.jpg
Ground surveillance radar configuration
http://www.jed.simonides.org/4x4afv/charlie/cobra_series/cobra-40gl/cobra40gl_001.jpg
Reconnaissance configuration with 40mm grenade launcher
http://www.jed.simonides.org/4x4afv/charlie/cobra_series/cobra-50cal/cobra50cal_001.jpg
Reconnaissance configuration with 50.cal heavy machinegun
http://www.jed.simonides.org/4x4afv/charlie/cobra_series/cobra-nbc/cobranbc_001.jpg
NBC Reconaissance configuration
http://www.jed.simonides.org/4x4afv/charlie/cobra_series/cobra-tow/cobratow_001.jpg
Anti-Tank configuration
http://www.jed.simonides.org/4x4afv/charlie/cobra_series/cobra-ad/cobramistral_001.jpg
Anti aircraft configuration
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/cobra/images/cobra4.jpg
The Cobra WLAV is designed to allow rapid deployment
Commercial Department
Center for Strategic Scientific Development
Imperial Armed Forces of Patrua
Edit *made prices more realistic -I hope and added more potential airlifters; added new versions, pics and info*
The South Islands
15-08-2003, 00:53
I would like 2000 of the standard varyations to replace our vehicles. We will modify them ourselves.
*$5,600,000,000 Wired*
Order confirmed, you'll be pleased with the Cobra's excellent performance.
For those interested, the Imperial Armed Forces of Patrua also sell a mighty good chopper: the notorious Tomahawk Assault & Transport Helicopter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44492).
OOC: just curious, thats the MOWAG 4x4 right?
OOC: just curious, thats the MOWAG 4x4 right?
Nope, IRL it's also called the Cobra Wheeled Light Armoured Vehicle.
Turkish design....
Mmmh hope that revelation isn't going to flunk my sales :?
Mmmh hope that revelation isn't going to flunk my sales :?
Apparently it does... Damn you Calarca! :x
200 of each version.
(mainly out of pity).
200 of each version.
(mainly out of pity).
:oops: Well, they can't be that bad, cause IRL the US and Britain have ordered some as well. Could've been pity as well of course... :wink:
So here's your order:
200 standard versions for $200,000,000
200 command vehicle versions for $320,000,000
200 ground surveillance radar versions for $260,000,000
200 amphibious versions for $250,000,000
200 reconaissance versions for $180,000,000
200 anti-tank versions for $220,000,000
200 anti-aircraft versions for $296,000,000
200 ambulance versions for $320,000,000
Total: $2,046,000,000
Thanks for the welfare... Hope to see you again when sales are crumbling :D
edit *made prices more realistic -money has been refunded-*
Money wired.
And 1 thing: This is NS people sell M!A2's for that much.
Of course they are also overpriced to twice what they should cost.
Make them all cost around $1 mil and you should sell a lot more..
All right, you get a discount of a billion dollars.
Maybe the price is a tad bit too high...
Edit: *price has been adjusted -this post doesn't coun't anymore*
All right, you get a discount of a billion dollars.
Maybe the price is a tad bit too high...
Yep.
For that you could definitely buy a heavier APC...
If you reduce the price, say so in the topic line as well.
The nation of Bayorta wishes to purchase the following from you.
1000 Ambulance version
This comes to a total of 1,600,000,000(damn jsut read the other post... is this right)
The money has been wired. We are awaiting delivery
Haverton
17-08-2003, 00:21
I'll take:
1000 Standard
1000 Anti-Tank
500 Command
1000 Anti-Aircraft
That comes out to 4,380,000,000
Money is wired
Johnistan
17-08-2003, 00:24
Not a fan of wheels. The stryker APC sucks.
The nation of Bayorta wishes to purchase the following from you.
1000 Ambulance version
This comes to a total of 1,600,000,000(damn jsut read the other post... is this right)
The money has been wired. We are awaiting delivery
It's the right price, rest assured.
That's a 1000 ambulance versions coming your way.
I'll take:
1000 Standard
1000 Anti-Tank
500 Command
1000 Anti-Aircraft
That comes out to 4,380,000,000
Money is wired
Order is confirmed for the above mentioned total.
To all:
Congratulations with your purchases and have fun with it.
Not a fan of wheels. The stryker APC sucks.
Mind you, wheeled vehicles do have their advantages:
They're more reliable
They're lighter, facilitating transport by air and sea
They're lighter and thus can more easily cross for instance damaged bridges and so on
They're quicker and more agile
Cheaper to maintain
Easier to repair
Much more suited for urban warfare
It's just a matter of allocation. These units aren't the front-line heavy- fighting behemoths that take a beating and move right along.
Even the US (who bought this stuff as well) are considering wheeled replacements for their Bradleys.
Not trying to convince you in any way, but you might want to buy some of these to ease your mind now :wink:
Soviet Haaregrad
17-08-2003, 02:18
You could sell those around $100 000 to $150 000 to be alot more realistic. They are basically an armored jeep/hummer style vehicle it appears, not really an AFV. I would buy some if I didn't make a similar vehicle already.
Not a fan of wheels. The stryker APC sucks.
OOC:
Yah, NZ bought a bunch of LAV3s a while back, grossly overpriced and doesn't do anywhere near what the army needs them for. Damn politicians!
IC:
Having found MP Landrovers being destroyed by molotov cocktail throwing mobs in the conquered territories, (SW-INH) Calarca would like to order 350 standard Cobras with a rapid fire greande launcher outfitted for smoke and CS gas, and with a Modified machinegun suited to firing 12G magnum shotgun shells. Our MPs already use 12G assault shotguns loaded with salt to discourage mobs. :twisted:
Johnistan
17-08-2003, 03:06
Wheels are quicker and more agile on road and paved surfaces, treads have the advantage on rough surfaces. Go here http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/index.htm for a lot of info on the crappiness of the Stryker. All this was written by hardcore ex military guys that know their stuff.
You could sell those around $100 000 to $150 000 to be alot more realistic. They are basically an armored jeep/hummer style vehicle it appears, not really an AFV. I would buy some if I didn't make a similar vehicle already.
Well, if you ever would need replacements, you know where to find them. Maybe by then, the price will have gone down.
Having found MP Landrovers being destroyed by molotov cocktail throwing mobs in the conquered territories, (SW-INH) Calarca would like to order 350 standard Cobras with a rapid fire greande launcher outfitted for smoke and CS gas, and with a Modified machinegun suited to firing 12G magnum shotgun shells. Our MPs already use 12G assault shotguns loaded with salt to discourage mobs.
Of course you came back, after all, isn't the Cobra's irresistible?
Your order has been confirmed, grenade launcher can be done, the modified machinegun can't, but we'll put some uniform attachment points so you can add them if you got 'em.
That makes $350,000,000.
Thanks for buying and please feel free to spread the word.
Money wired.
Would you like to buy the plans and tooling dies to produce the machine guns? we use a modification of the Hispano-Suiza 20mm Cannon used on the Spitfire IX and later in WW2.
Cost including production rights is $20 Mil. Goes Bang and the rioters run screaming with salt under their skin! :shock: :twisted:
If I wanted something to fight in, I'd get more MARDER IFV's but for MPs to cruise around in intimidating the proles... well these should last a bit longer than a hummer, at least a .303 won't go through them. :roll:
30 with conventional gun turrets please
30 with conventional gun turrets please
30 standard version, coming right up. That's $30 million.
Money wired.
Would you like to buy the plans and tooling dies to produce the machine guns? we use a modification of the Hispano-Suiza 20mm Cannon used on the Spitfire IX and later in WW2.
Cost including production rights is $20 Mil. Goes Bang and the rioters run screaming with salt under their skin! :shock: :twisted:
If I wanted something to fight in, I'd get more MARDER IFV's but for MPs to cruise around in intimidating the proles... well these should last a bit longer than a hummer, at least a .303 won't go through them. :roll:
Thanks for the offer, but we've got our traditional water cannon. Water mixed with coarse sand that is... Unless they're hardliners. Then we put some gravel in as well. Unofficially of course.
Thanks for the offer, but we've got our traditional water cannon. Water mixed with coarse sand that is... Unless they're hardliners. Then we put some gravel in as well. Unofficially of course.
How bad do they have to be before you start putting in 2 inch dia rocks? besides which, in a desert like Iraq water can be too special to waste on proles, the'd be more likely to go mob up and take buckets with them... be more water that way than waiting for the army to fix the pumps and power stations they bombed.
How bad do they have to be before you start putting in 2 inch dia rocks? besides which, in a desert like Iraq water can be too special to waste on proles, the'd be more likely to go mob up and take buckets with them... be more water that way than waiting for the army to fix the pumps and power stations they bombed.
We didn't have to use our 2 inches yet; haven't had the honor of England's team playing an away game here :D
:::PRESS RELEASE:::
The Ministry of Sport in Calarca is pleased to announce that the Enlish soccer team is to play an away game in Patrua, Venue is yet to be decided, but will probably be in a specially constructed staduim in the middle of an army base where several thousand marines and commandos can be deployed to defeat the english soccer hooligans.
Calarca wishes Patrua a good game against the English!
:::PRESS RELEASE:::
The Ministry of Sport in Calarca is pleased to announce that the Enlish soccer team is to play an away game in Patrua, Venue is yet to be decided, but will probably be in a specially constructed staduim in the middle of an army base where several thousand marines and commandos can be deployed to defeat the english soccer hooligans.
Calarca wishes Patrua a good game against the English!
Prisoners all over the realm have been ordered to start cutting rocks into 2 inch water cannon ammo. The government has packed its bags and will await the end of the game somewhere safely abroad. Dipers have been sold out as people are shit scared and several desertions have been reported in the army as well. Citizens have begun stockpiling food and cleaning out city bomb shelters.
And now back to business cause after all this is unfortunately a storefront thread :(
Yup, but it made a damn good bump right? lol! :P
we wish to purchase 100 Cobras,with options for 900 more if they are found to be satisfactory...we wish for them to come with the MG turret but no MG(do we get them cheaper if the MG isn't included? :P),but fixation point so we can use our own 12.7mm MG or a Mk19 GMG.
amphibious versions btw...
bump so the thread and my order arn't buried.
Calarca: Mighty good bump indeed. When this thread sinks beyond #20, you may do your thing :)
we wish to purchase 100 Cobras,with options for 900 more if they are found to be satisfactory...we wish for them to come with the MG turret but no MG(do we get them cheaper if the MG isn't included? ),but fixation point so we can use our own 12.7mm MG or a Mk19 GMG.
amphibious versions btw...
Order confirmed, we won't be ficing any MG's on, will spare you a mil. So that'll be $124,000,000.
We'll keep the other order standing by, you'll find these vehicles to exceed your satisfaction by far.
we've found them to be good vehicles,and they cna mount the weapons we were thinking of arming them with,so we'llt ake the extra 900 :)
we've found them to be good vehicles,and they cna mount the weapons we were thinking of arming them with,so we'llt ake the extra 900 :)
Sweet! That's a grand total of $1,116,000,000.
Have fun with your new aquisitions, I know I would.
*money wired*oh,i heartily plan to have fun with them...i wonder how much the prod rights would be?
The Principality of Vanyc would like to purchase 700 Cobra standard Cobras, we can modify them ourselves.
The $700,000,000 will be wired upon confirmation.
Wheels are quicker and more agile on road and paved surfaces, treads have the advantage on rough surfaces. Go here http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/index.htm for a lot of info on the crappiness of the Stryker. All this was written by hardcore ex military guys that know their stuff.actually,they don't "know their stuff"-scientifically speaking,they are judging a vehicle base don it's performance at it's worst-if the US was involved in a more heavily urbanized area with plenty of concrete,some hills and rocky and hard earth terrain instead of sand,or even worse pavestones, they'd be screaming out against the very tracked vehicles they are currently advocating.The real reason the yank oppresors are dieing in irak is 'cuz the freedom fighters know their stuff, even vehicles more appropriate to the terrain would'nt make more than aminor difference.The best solution would be bigger,more expensive vehicles with armor protection corresponding to the frontal glacis of current vehicles in every part of the APC,including the rear and the top,the traditional weak spots,and batteries of sensors appropriate in order to counter ambushes.such counter-guerilla vehicles would meet much greater success than anything current,wheeled or tracked.
*money wired*oh,i heartily plan to have fun with them...i wonder how much the prod rights would be?
Unfortunately our government policies don't allow selling production rights of weaponry.
(actually, it is an existing vehicle though, so in fact there's nothing stopping you from manufacturing it yourself...)
The Principality of Vanyc would like to purchase 700 Cobra standard Cobras, we can modify them ourselves.
The $700,000,000 will be wired upon confirmation.
Order confirmed, you are gonna be pleased to have bought these.
*money wired*oh,i heartily plan to have fun with them...i wonder how much the prod rights would be?
Unfortunately our government policies don't allow selling production rights of weaponry.
(actually, it is an existing vehicle though, so in fact there's nothing stopping you from manufacturing it yourself...)
The Principality of Vanyc would like to purchase 700 Cobra standard Cobras, we can modify them ourselves.
The $700,000,000 will be wired upon confirmation.
Order confirmed, you are gonna be pleased to have bought these.
I love youre small print :D
Updated, new pics and versions. Go nuts.
Malagassia
12-10-2003, 22:37
10000 standards
10 from each of the others
*money wired*
Calarca is extremely pleased with the Non-Lethally armed Military Police versions purchased earlier, and now due to restructuring of the military is seeking to purchase wheeled road convoy protection vehicles.
Formerly military re-supply was primaryly done using stretched variants of the M-113, outfitted for cargo carrying, with protection carried out by tracked vehicles while in risk zones. With rear-echelon resupply being carried out by unarmoured trucks escorted by MG mounted jeeps. Now a medium category of risk has been identified where Tracked resupply is too slow or of insufficient capacity, and the existing wheeled supply vehicles and escort are insufficiently protected.
As per this assesment Calarca is seeking uparmoured and upweaponed transports and escort vehicles for the medium risk environments. The transport requirement will be met by internal design and modification by Calarcian automobile manufacturors, but for escort duties, the example of the MP Cobras has lead to Calarca approaching Patrua for Cobra AFVs.
We wish to place an order for:
3600 APC models
200 Command models
2500 40mm Grenade Recon models
3500 .50 Cal HMG Recon models
700 AA defence SAM models equipped with french Minstral
700 AT Milan models
400 Air search Radar models
All Cobras to be up armoured with ceramic plates to at least .50 HMG rated protection, preferably 20mm Cannon rated.
I'll take 100,000 anti tank versions.
*money wired*
Dictator of Iwo Jimo
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
10000 standards
10 from each of the others
*money wired*
Sure thing, neighbour. That's an expensive offer but considering the safe future ahead it was worth it. $10,116,300,000 this way, please.
We wish to place an order for:
3600 APC models
200 Command models
2500 40mm Grenade Recon models
3500 .50 Cal HMG Recon models
700 AA defence SAM models equipped with french Minstral
700 AT Milan models
400 Air search Radar models
All Cobras to be up armoured with ceramic plates to at least .50 HMG rated protection, preferably 20mm Cannon rated.
Ah, positive customer feedback... a priceless commodity. Thanks! :D
$3,600,000,000
$320,000,000
$2,500,000
$2,250,000
$1,050,000,000 (we installed the french mistral AA system which made it slightly more expensive)
$770,000,000
$640,000,000
The APC, Command, AA, AT and Radar models have been fitted with ceramic and composite armour that will offer complete protection against .50 HMG fire and partial protection against 20 mm rounds (when fired from at least 80 meters distance) and 40 mm rounds (when fired from at least 200 meters distance).
For the Recon types, we opted not to compromise speed, a key factor in recce missions. Therefore their armour is slightly lighter. Nevertheless they too will withstand .50 cal HMG fire and 20 mm rounds from up to 100 meters distance (and 40 mm 250 meters distance). There are vulnerable spots in the armour however (which we will not elaborate on here but they are only minor).
The adaptations cost an additional $5,800,000,000
That's a grand total of $12,184,750,000 I believe.
Thanks for buying. Next time you get a loyalty bonus or something :wink:
I'll take 100,000 anti tank versions.
*money wired*
Dictator of Iwo Jimo
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Yes! Another major order, that'll be $110,000,000,000 please.
Have fun :D
United Elias
13-10-2003, 16:02
Perhaps you could add a version equipped with this:
ERS-1 Man-Portable Reconnaissance UAV (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75781&highlight=)
________
We would like to order 44 Standard versions, 18 ground surveillance radar versions and 12 Command versions:
Department of Procurement, Federal Security Bureau
United Elias
13-10-2003, 16:26
Consider Igla-S (http://www.milparade.com/2002/50/02_01.shtml) rather than Mistral, we're evn going to start replacing our Humvee mounted stingers with it.
Perhaps you could add a version equipped with this:
ERS-1 Man-Portable Reconnaissance UAV (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75781&highlight=)
________
We would like to order 44 Standard versions, 18 ground surveillance radar versions and 12 Command versions:
Department of Procurement, Federal Security Bureau
Interesting suggestion. Since the vehicle is so standardized, it shouldn't be too hard for any nation to customize it themselves.
On the other hand, it might be a speedy way of in depth aerial recce, we might be getting back to you on that.
The Igla-S instead of the Stinger might be a good idea. Now to secure a steady supply of Igla-S systems...
Your order will be $90,200,000; they will perform admirably, I'm sure.
Doing business with Elias is a privilege -as always. Feel free to drop by in the future should these Cobras be to your liking.
Greetings from the Grotian Ministry of Defence!
We are VERY interested in you Cobra product.
We wish to place an order for:
3600 APC models
200 Command models
2500 40mm Grenade Recon models
3500 .50 Cal HMG Recon models
700 AA defence SAM models equipped with french Minstral
700 AT Milan models
400 Air search Radar models
All Cobras to be up armoured with ceramic plates to at least .50 HMG rated protection, preferably 20mm Cannon rated.
(Yes, we copied off an earlier post, but it was a GREAT order, so I figured, why not get the best order. After all, if it is good enough for...
Thank you! Order payment wired in $US currency.
United Elias
13-10-2003, 20:00
Thank you, Elias Weapons and Ordnance Produces the Igla-S for $46,000 per copy.
(Yes, we copied off an earlier post, but it was a GREAT order, so I figured, why not get the best order. After all, if it is good enough for...
Thank you! Order payment wired in $US currency.
Thanks for the excessive order. From now on, this particular configuration is called a Calarca, okay?
So anyone ordering the above just ask for a 'Calarca'.
Elias Weapons and Ordnance Produces the Igla-S for $46,000 per copy.
Forsooth, such luck must be divine! Just give a week to gather some money, okay? Then we can arrange a deal.
Money wired. ***Electronic noises as bank computers conferr...***
As to the recons, speed isn't really nessesary as they're only supposed to be escorting tankers and trucks along roads, but even so it'll probably come in handy to send them out and about scouting ambushes or convoy routes.
With this order, our convoys in medium risk zones will be quite safe, far more so than American ones in Iraq with their HUMMVEE escorts.
Money wired. ***Electronic noises as bank computers conferr...***
As to the recons, speed isn't really nessesary as they're only supposed to be escorting tankers and trucks along roads, but even so it'll probably come in handy to send them out and about scouting ambushes or convoy routes.
With this order, our convoys in medium risk zones will be quite safe, far more so than American ones in Iraq with their HUMMVEE escorts.
I think you'll be grateful to have armour that can quickly intervene whenever an ambush occurs. It's very useful to comb out an area with a spearhead team before your convoy passes through.
A representitive of the Calarcian Defence department wanders around a Cobra kicking the tires and listening to them go Bump
Malagassia
15-10-2003, 09:57
Hey, I want the enhanced armour too! Can you still modify my order?
*Money sent*
Hey, I want the enhanced armour too! Can you still modify my order?
*Money sent*
Well, we already delivered them, but we could sent a team to upgrade yours.
Andaman and Nicobar
18-10-2003, 06:58
The ISAN military feels that Calarcan reports regarding their situations, needs, and these vehicles themselves could almost have been written by one of their own officers or administrators.
Bandits, cartels, and so forth on North Andaman deploy moderate weaponry and operate against government forces on a fairly intermediate scale. We have found that our ancient Jeeps are more likely to draw fire than even slightly intimidate criminal elements, while various tracked APCs and such AVs strike Liberation (the capital) as a great expense and risk, while seeming to the civilian population of the northern islands a very heavy-handed measure, which is proving unpopular.
Tracked vehicles give the impression that the army is sending in tanks, which is not exactly what Liberation wants its people to think.
We wonder; is the "Calarca" version available, with its superior armour, in the case of the amphibious model? Without loss of acquatic ability, of course?
Being as the ISAN is almost entirely urban, and that it includes a large number of tiny islands, we feel that these vehicles- especially in amphibious configuration- may be ideal.
As such, our preliminary order -
60x Command
140x 81mm mortar
50x NBC reconnaissance
110x Anti-tank
180x Anti-aircraft
80x Ambulance
If amphibious vehicle accepts Calarca upgrade- 400 amphibious vehicles with .50cal MG.
If amphibious vehicle does not accept upgrade without loss of aquatic function- 120 standard amphibious vehicles and 300 Calarca standard APC.
I hope this stipulation does not appear over-complicated.
Mr.Giles, ISAN Office of Government, FBCo.plc Board.
Hugoland
18-10-2003, 11:53
We want to buy 1800 standart.
Please reply with the price and the delivery date, money will be wired after that.
http://www.hongkong-eu.org/img/flags/finland.jpg
The Empire of Hugoland
Europe
We wonder; is the "Calarca" version available, with its superior armour, in the case of the amphibious model? Without loss of acquatic ability, of course?
Mr.Giles,
The vehicle won't lose floating capability, but it will be significantly slower and harder to manipulate. Also, we may have to limit armour on certain area's in order to keep the balance of the vehicle in check. These uncovered spots will have the standard armour which in itself isn't all that bad off course.
Since the AT risk seems rather low and as the standard armour is already capable of withstanding HMG (also thanks to the silhouette) and protecting its crew from landmines, it might be good to consider wether the added armour would be necessary against the non-military designated targets.
We want to buy 1800 standart.
Please reply with the price and the delivery date, money will be wired after that.
The price for the order will be $1,800,000,000, the first patch of 250 can be delivered to you within a week (NS), the others will be arriving within the next one-and-a-half months (NS).
Andaman and Nicobar
18-10-2003, 17:21
Thank you. While the current top priority for deployment of such vehicles would see them policing 'bandit lands', it is from seperate current events reasonable to supose that in the near future they may be deployed in rather different and more taxing theatres.
Taking all prospects and information into account, our final order is as follows:
60x Command
140x 81mm mortar
50x NBC reconnaissance
110x Anti-tank
180x Anti-aircraft
80x Ambulance
150x Calarca amphibious vehicles with .50" MG
150x Standard amphibious vehicles with .50" MG
200x Calarca APC with .50" MG
-Office of Mr.Giles, ISAN Office of Government.
(ooc:I hope you have a calculator handy :) It occured to me to round the order off..but I supposed such a consideration would never cross the minds of a RL government considering its purchases and balancing budgets. Hope you don't mind!)
Hugoland
18-10-2003, 18:28
We want to buy 1800 standart.
Please reply with the price and the delivery date, money will be wired after that.
The price for the order will be $1,800,000,000, the first patch of 250 can be delivered to you within a week (NS), the others will be arriving within the next one-and-a-half months (NS).
Money wired.
Thank You.
Taking all prospects and information into account, our final order is as follows:
60x Command -> $96.000.000
140x 81mm mortar -> $140.000.000
50x NBC reconnaissance -> $60.000.000
110x Anti-tank -> $121.000.000
180x Anti-aircraft -> $266.400.000
80x Ambulance -> $128.000.000
150x Calarca amphibious vehicles with .50" MG -> $202.500.000
150x Standard amphibious vehicles with .50" MG -> $187.500.000
200x Calarca APC with .50" MG -> $220.000.000
-Office of Mr.Giles, ISAN Office of Government.
Your order has been confirmed, coming to a total of $1,421,400,000.
Thank you for your interest and purchase. Feel free to drop by any one of our storefronts whenever you wish to.
(ooc: Don't worry, it's a storefront: whatever is the customers wish will be our command... And I think about every computer at least has got a Windows calculator :wink: )
Andaman and Nicobar
19-10-2003, 03:58
Many thanks. It has been a pleasure doing business with your company, and with your nation.
Transfer of funds will be arranged at once.
-Mr.Giles, ISAN Office of Government.
United Elias
19-12-2003, 22:46
-Tag-
I intend to make an order here soon :wink:
For the new Mechanized Battalions im working on...
I'll take 6 standard versions 8 anti-tanks versions and 10 anti-aircraft versions please.
*money wired*
Communist Rule
19-12-2003, 23:19
Communist Rule
19-12-2003, 23:19
Four thousand of each "combat" vehicle, 2000 of each "support" vehicle.. I'd love to calculate that, but I'm lazy.
I can afford it.
Citizens: 29M
Economy (MCI): $28000
Tax Rate: 0.3
GDP: $812B
Maintenance (15%): $121.8B
Net Budget: $690.2B
Purchasing PP: $243.6B
Domestic Spending (70%): $483.14B
Int'l Spending (20%): $138.04B
Military Budget (10%): $69.02B
Four thousand of each "combat" vehicle, 2000 of each "support" vehicle.. I'd love to calculate that, but I'm lazy.
I can afford it.
Citizens: 29M
Economy (MCI): $28000
Tax Rate: 0.3
GDP: $812B
Maintenance (15%): $121.8B
Net Budget: $690.2B
Purchasing PP: $243.6B
Domestic Spending (70%): $483.14B
Int'l Spending (20%): $138.04B
Military Budget (10%): $69.02B
Nah Nah na na.... I'm richer than you... :)
Calarca Gross Domestic Product
Population: 1,076,000,000
Civil Rights: Superb
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $37,660,000,000,000
National Budget: $22,549,000,320,000
Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 1.74%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 2.9%
Military Budget: $653,921,009,280
I would like my precious medium risk convoy escort order, times 8.
Communist Rule
20-12-2003, 01:10
Ehm...I'm also less than one month old?
-Tag-
I intend to make an order here soon :wink:
For the new Mechanized Battalions im working on...
Cheers, we'll be prepared.
I'll take 6 standard versions 8 anti-tanks versions and 10 anti-aircraft versions please.
*money wired*
Confirmed and thanks, you've done your nation a great service.
Four thousand of each "combat" vehicle, 2000 of each "support" vehicle.. I'd love to calculate that, but I'm lazy.
I can afford it.
Order confirmed as listed below:
4000 standard => $4,000,000,000
2000 command => $3,200,000,000
2000 ground surveillance radar => $3,000,000,000
4000 amphibious => $5,000,000,000
4000 81mm mortar vehicle => $4,000,000,000
4000 reconaissance => $3,600,000,000
2000 NBC reconaissance => $2,400,000,000
4000 anti-tank => $4,400,000,000
2000 anti-aircraft => $2,960,000,000
2000 ambulance => $3,200,000,000
Resulting in a grand total of $35,760,000,000.
Thanks for doing business with us; we hope the purchase will satisfy your expectations.
I would like my precious medium risk convoy escort order, times 8.
Order confirmed, would've been $97,478,000,000 but the standardisation of the Calarca update and the previously promised loyalty bonus will make it $87,730,200,000.
"Patrua
I'll take 6 standard versions 8 anti-tanks versions and 10 anti-aircraft versions please.
*money wired*[/quote:a6dd5f0a07]
Confirmed and thanks, you've done your nation a great service.
Umm.. thats Eropia I think... but whatever.. Just log it up as international dplomacy and military aid provison and send us the bill.
[quote=Calarca]I would like my precious medium risk convoy escort order, times 8.
Order confirmed, would've been $97,478,000,000 but the standardisation of the Calarca update and the previously promised loyalty bonus will make it $87,730,200,000.
Money Wired. **Electronic whirr as bank computers confer**
How that can carrie 11 men
"Patrua
I'll take 6 standard versions 8 anti-tanks versions and 10 anti-aircraft versions please.
*money wired*
Confirmed and thanks, you've done your nation a great service.
Umm.. thats Eropia I think... but whatever.. Just log it up as international dplomacy and military aid provison and send us the bill.
Whoops :oops: that was embarassing. The external communications guy has been fired and will be included in Eriopia's order. They can do with him as they please. So here's take two:
I'll take 6 standard versions 8 anti-tanks versions and 10 anti-aircraft versions please.
*money wired*
Confirmed and thanks, you've done your nation a great service.
How that can carrie 11 men
In the back: five on the right, five on the left and one on top in the turret, I suppose. The Cobra WLAV exists IRL, you can check it.
Aah it is from Turkey that explaines everything. Men in that car are quite well packed.
Rhodesia and Nyasaland
15-01-2004, 20:13
Can we please order:
85 Anti-tank configuration
122 Standard Versions
10 Command Versions
42 Reconaiisance versions
85 anti-tank versions: $93,500,000
122 standard versions: $122,000,000
10 command versions: $16,000,000
42 reconnaissance versions: $37,800,000
Total: $269,300,000
Pleasure doing business with you, feel free to pop by if you feel the need to expand your fleet of Cobras.
Rhodesia and Nyasaland
16-01-2004, 19:23
85 anti-tank versions: $93,500,000
122 standard versions: $122,000,000
10 command versions: $16,000,000
42 reconnaissance versions: $37,800,000
Total: $269,300,000
Pleasure doing business with you, feel free to pop by if you feel the need to expand your fleet of Cobras.
Thank you very much, money has been wired. Look forward to joining you on the African map! Im just negotiating with the rest of my region.
Thank you very much, money has been wired. Look forward to joining you on the African map! Im just negotiating with the rest of my region.
Likewise, I'd like to welcome you all on behalf of everyone in the African Continent :D