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In the close, dark confines the voice continues to sing:

...They made a bomb out of sugar,
Take the toys from the boys...

OOC:
I'm getting Fed up:

Devils desert butts in because BI after starting this thread Runs off to Join Devils Desert as per:

Good Day Residents of The Devils Desert. We are British Imperialism. Ruled by Her Majesty Queen Victoria II, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and of her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. We look forward to times of peace in your wonderful region



Devils desert are being asine in that your butting into a thread that started with BI ATTACKING 32 Cty, all that is going on is that action, simply because the coward runs off and joins your Region you think you have a right to butt in here and threaten Us?

Ignoring BI's actions in this Thread?

If you peeps came in here and instead of threatening action if we didn't move away you talked of having BI make peace, pay reparations or your region "pay reparations" it be one thing, but What I see is:

BI runs off and joins Devil desert

BI gets Your protection

You ignore all of BI's actions in this thread he started with an invasion and attack on 32 cty

You threaten so called massive forces unless we move off and simply leave BI?

I think at this point these Devil desert peeps have spoiled the whole thread.


If the Author of a thread can delete it, will BI Flipping DELETE this whole thread cause its no longer BI vs 32 Cty but BI has run off and taken refuge with a region that now is looking to make some war..

I don't think just because someone joins a region it should butt into a thread of role playing which started before BI was part of Devils Desert.


Theres in my view no point to this whole thing anymore

its Spoilt meat.

Transmission Sent To: Allies of British Imperialism
From: Reich Central Command
Subject: War

To all Allies of British Imperialism who jumped on this thread recently:
For your information, The 32 CIR, Psychik Tv, in particular is great allies with The Reich. If you insist on escalating the current situation to war status, you will have to contend with The Reich. Our forces will crush you and your pathetic little DD region in the blink of an eye. If I recall correctly, it was Reichskamphen of The Reich who reduced BI to rubble. Think carefully about how you wish to proceed. This is your first and only warning.

Cardinal Mattias laughs as the Vyse transmission comes through, and doesn't even bother responding. The Lavallin transmission, however, does get one.

"Pilot, patch this through to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, please ... Unless you want the entirety of Lavallin ground into a bloody ginger pulp, get the hell out of British Imperialism."

The pilot winces, and, fortunately, the message that is transmitted is slightly more diplomatic.

To: Lavallin
From: Ministry of Foreign Affairs

You are welcome to withdraw your forces to Lavallin and the 32 Nations. You claim to be able to repulse us and our regional allies - well. We've crushed the Dark Eldar, we've crushed nations of vampires with giant walking mechanoids and space fighters, and we've fended off ortillery strikes and random races in gravships.

Withdraw from the land of British Imperialism, or face the consequences and guarantee Stewart's freedom. You claim massive retaliation - we've dealt with bigger nations before. You claim to have know about biogenetics - we're masters of it.

If you want war, we'll give you war.

If you want peace, as you claim, we'll give you peace. But British Imperialism must be vacated.

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Across the Dominion of Whispering Forces, regional defence assets - already prepared - begin to set sail. A veritable armada, vastly outnumbering detected enemy naval assets.

Stellar assets prepare to destroy nuclear missiles launched in the area.


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OOC:
You can try to aim bursts of frequency-covering energy at satellites, but it's not a particularly efficient method of jamming. You can certainly attempt to confuse by adding extra heat sources - but you'd have to know exactly which of the millions of satellites above the world were mine first.

And current military satellites can detect radiation through up to 30' of ground (more or less depending on the density of what's between the source and the surface. Rock is less, earth is more). It's generally used for finding bunkers.

Now onto GDP - that's your country's GROSS TOTAL PRODUCT for a year. Unless you have no private enterprise at all then not all of that is available for spending on the military.

And you need to check harder, Whispering Voices has a frightening economy. And I'm not denying you can buy a lot of military assets, however you can't realistically buy over 25% without destroying your country's infrastructure. But like I said ... I'll scale up to exceed yours - since I spend more and all, based on national description and GDP per capita spending.

As for bullying, you may be the ones who were attacked - but you've been offered peace, and a chance at Stewart, and you're throwing it away. The Devils Desert has a proud tradition of attacking and destroying any and all extra-regional forces that move onto its land, and its not likely to stop any time soon. Yes, it may have come as a harsh blow that we've got involved - however, such is our right and our prerogative. Please note - British Imperialism was invited into the Devils Desert region. And no point did they approach me for help - I approached them, offering it.

Why? Because reading through the thread I thought they handled losing a war - perhaps the hardest thing to do in Nationstates - magnificently. And so felt like helping them.

(above post was from Whispering Voices)

***Diplomatic Corp Update***

This is the last straw. Joshua Lee and the Indra Prime Diplomatic Team to BWO were killed in the Nuclear Event. This atrocity against the advancement of peace is a abbomination to all involved. And with our participation in this peace conference that puts the peace loving nation of Indra Prime on the front lines. The deaths of our top diplomatic people will end in the following reprocussions.

1. All humanitarian Aid is suspended til further notice to British Imperialism and their allies.
2. Indra Prime is recalling all vessels (naval fleet AND space fleet) and amassing outside of a classified location.
3. Indra Prime calls for an Alliance between ourselves, Vyse King of Rogues, Body Without Organs, and all who oppose the British Imperialism. Between said Nations and ALL allies of Indra Prime there is a War Council assembling in a classified location in the Nation of Indra Prime. We require a confirmation of attendance to said meeting before we disclose the location. This War Council is to determine the military strengths and strategies of the upcoming conflict.

We urge all nations that have been injured in some way to assist Indra Prime in this defensive maneuver.

Lt. General Travis Fuehler
Indra Prime Defense Network.

No one has seen the full military might of Indra Prime due to the fact the we have focused mainly on Humanitarian Missions. But you can rest assured that this attack on BWO which resulted in the deaths of IP's PEACE delegates amongst others will unleash the Fury that Hell could not compete with. Beware those allied with BI. Beware.

Gentlemen, gentlemen... calm your fury for just an instant and we can use the time to get something resembling a peace out of this.

Now. Does anyone really want another brutal war? Other than Lavallin, who really doesn't have a clue? That nation has been hiding behind velociraptors so long they have forgotten that men, women and children die in war and seem willing to throw themselves at it with abandon. But not we.

While we were conducting the peace negociations, Whispering voices was rallying the people of the Devils Desert to the cause of British Imperialism who had fought boldly and lost. This is not a renewing of the old war, this is a rescue mission to save the people of British Imperialism from the grip of this sinister terrorist organisation. Not to mention the occupying forces which while for the most part are well intentioned, Vyse, but those like Lavallin have done nothing more than sow resentment against all people.

Indra Prime
The Devil's Desert is not responsible for the attack on BWO. That is beyond belief for it to be suggested. We hold no emnity for Irish nations and merely wish to aid British Imperialism. And Tarrican, for one, would very much like to wring the necks of those beasts responsible for this act. We cannot control Whispering Voices to prevent the movement of troops, but we can make sure that the terrorists responsible are found and uprooted and brought out for all to see.

Gentlemen all. I urge you to withdraw from British Imperialism and allow us, as liberators, to excise the cancer in its form where you, as conquerers, can only make it stronger by seeking it amoung proud folk. This is not a prelude to a second invasion and it doesn't have to be another war.
We do not dismiss the power of the 32 CIR, nor ignore the fact that it has allies to call upon... yet HARU in particular seems easily able to dismiss the Devil's Desert with a word and gives no thought to any alliances we have. Do not let this become a flashpoint for greater powers to battle over... for if that becomes the case then we all suffer.

Let calm heads prevail and let us do what we must.

OOC Lavallin... calm down.
We know darn well what is going on. We're aware that you were invaded first and we are _still_ intervening in this conflict. You can't say we are ignoring what has happened.
We _do_ know that they started it and quite frankly I suspect that we are paying more attention to recent revelations than you are.

We have read it, we are comming anyway... what are you going to do about it.
(Note that the above is intended as a friendly challenge, not an insulting one)

BWO...
I am in favour of Number 3. Most definately ;)
I almost agree with Lavallin: this was enjoyable as a post-war peace-talk RP and could have continued in that vein for some time more... but people are turning this into a war again. REgretable, but its happened.
I'll keep trying to do diplomacy if you will.

OOC: Well the EMP, whatever its exact physical nature appears to have disrupted communications somewhat...

1. British Commonwealth forces are on the British Imperialist mainland. BC posted that they were going to be arriving to aid in relief efforts. Land forces were also accompanied by naval forces, or at least sufficient transports to carry them. Since that point BC has made at least 3 postings describing operations on the BI mainland, and has sent a late-coming representative to the event in BWO. The time to challenge these has now passed...

OOC
Thanks for backing me up, its nice to know someone is paying attention to me :wink:

3. I hereby propose that the next person who declares they are invading the BI mainland without sufficiently arming themselves with the facts is hunted down and humiliated in public in Real Life. All those in support say 'aye'.
I thinks so

And can all people state what forces they have in BI. I thought i was the only one there.


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And can all people state what forces they have in BI. I thought i was the only one there.


OOC: BWO has a few patrol craft around the oilrigs off the NE coast of BI mainland and a large amount of supply ships and tankers there, they are obviously not going to be listed in the dispatch below, but moved there openly, and were reported in the thread.

IC: It appears to BWO military intelligence that: Vyse has a large concentration of forces around the now fortified city of London. Drakonium Imperium have a lot of construction workers and civil engineers rebuilding - I don't know if they have their own security or are relying on Vyse. Lavallin appears to have pulled out, but there remain some raptors which didn't heed the recall and have gone feral. Red Tide also appears to have pulled out all their conniving forces and to have ceased to support the relief efforts. Indra Prime pulled out of the mainland and prior to their above announcement were last reported trying to co-ordinate relief efforts from the surrounding waters. Most BI army units on the mainland have been apprehended, but partisan attacks continue... ...but, out military intelligence department are famed for their gross inefficiency and complete inability to see the wood for the trees.

(In other words I could be completely wrong about all of the above).

So it means i still have free reign in BI

excellent

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It is our sincere desire to bring this situation to an end without further bloodshed. We have great appreciation for those from The Devil's Desert who have come to assist in the security of our nation, for those who have sacrificed many to assist our suffering popuation and those who have sought to protect our people from themselves. We send our deepest regrets to those nations who have suffered from our attacks and from those who wish to tarnish our nation even further. We would seek a more peaceful transition of protection between those already working BI and those of The Devil's Desert . We should also like to find and punish those terrorists who have violated the sanctity of a peace conference. All nations involved should focus on bringing them to justice. Our nation has been bathed in enough blood, no more shall be shed. We ask our allies to work out a compromise with those nations currently assisting our nation. Due to recent events emotions run high. This should not lead to an escalation of conflict. We wish as well for a continuation of the disrupted peace talks as soon as the situation allows. We sincerely hope that the nations involved can consider our wishes.

Her Majesty Queen Victoria II, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and of her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith


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In the long sloping tunnel the men struggle to run in their protective clothing. Crackles of gasping breath are picked up by their radio mics. The sounds of their footsteps echo around the stone walls, but are muted by the masks and helmets that the men wear. Inside the head of one civil engineer runs the countdown 19... 18... 17... 16.... They come to the turning in the passageway and take the steps three at a time. One of them glances upwards at the spiralling flight before them. 15... 14... 13... 12... 11... The enquiry on the airwaves "Red three and four, are you clear?" comes through clearly in their headsets. 10... 9... 8... "No," shouts one of the running men. The heat inside their suits is beginning to build up to unbearable levels. One of them stumbles, his foot becoming snagged on the cables that run down the hallway floor, but he is able to recover. 7... 6... 5... The dim glow of the swinging inspection lamps is replaced by the bright open mouth of the tunnel entrance way ahead. 4... 3... They throw themselves out of the hall and run to take shelter by the side walls. 2... 1... 0. The hillside of the bay west of New Tiger's Bay shakes for a brief moment and a plume of dust and debris rises from the entrance to the tunnel. The men signal with a thumbs up to their supervisor. Five minutes will be given and then an experienced caver and a mining engineer will be sent in to analyse the effect of the explosives. The men check the paper tags on the front of their clothing - they are turning from yellow to orange. Still in the safe zone, but they will be rotated out within the hour by one of the coast guard Catalinas that kept flying throughout the nuclear attack. Valve based electronics and their near immunity to electro-magnetic pulses are a wonderful thing...


OOC: yes, BWO's 'antique' crates were still able to fly through the EMP. Read up on western reactions to the recovery of Mig-25 Foxbats if you are in any doubt...

There is no depth of idiocy to which trolls cannot descend. :shock:

We have confirmed the deaths of the IP delegates who were at the BWO peace conference. Each citizen of IP has a small health implant that is relayed through our satellite network in the event they are out of the country. At the moment of detonation, we lost the signal to those implants that were located at the conference.
Despite how furious this atrocity makes us, we will hold off on another war...for the time being. All in order to give us more time to figure out what the h*ll is going on. We will not hold BI accountable if there is reasonable proof that is was a rogue faction who launched this weapon.
We hereby call for a consortium of nations that would allow us to combine our strengths into finding out who did this. You can rest assured someone will be found and they will be dealt with in the manner in which they so easily attempted to destroy peace. Once the perpetrators of this crime have been brought to justice, then and only then will we be able to continue the talks toward peace.

OOC:

3. I hereby propose that the next person who declares they are invading the BI mainland without sufficiently arming themselves with the facts is hunted down and humiliated in public in Real Life. All those in support say 'aye'.


OOC: To that suggestion I vote Aye.

I would like to point out to all parties involved that this has been one of the best, if not the best threads I have seen, much less been a part, where a nuclear explosion was RPed with such finesse and realism ( mostly thanks to BWO) . However, I do not want to have to go throught that again so let's try to focus on peace and apprehending the "real" Lord Stewart and the perpetrators of the nuclear attack.

OOC:I agree. Lets focus on the current mysteries and not create further escalation of this confict. By the way BWO nice job with the description and BI good job as the villian.

Cardinal Mattias accepted the hip flask from Trevelyan, and swigged deeply.

"My apologies for my outburst. Almost being turned to ash is a first for me - I feel the urge to take it out on something." As the helicopter turns around to avoid the massive mountains of Bodies Without Organs and their treacherous aircurrents, he takes a few breaths and calms himself.

"Pilot - alright. Patch this through please to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs ... "


<Transmission to all involved nations>

Our fiefdom of Murderous Tendencies is about to initiate landings upon the soil of British Imperialism, at the points of Glasgow, Dundee, Liverpool, Newcastle, Cardiff, Norfolk, Truro and Portsmouth.

However, we wish to reiterate - given the current circumstances, and Tarrican's calming influence - that currently the only immediate orders possessed by said troops are the bringing of peace to British lands and the apprehension or destruction of rebel British troops - although of course, should any attack be levelled upon them, they will respond with the swiftness for which they are noted.

We understand that Vyse King of Rogues is currently attempting to remove minefields that they - or others - have placed within the nation during the course of the battlefield. As soon as deployment is sufficient, Murderous Tendencies take over that essential humanitarian duty and aid the British Commonwealth in starting to rebuild British Imperialism to a state where it can begin reconstruction of its civil infrastructure.

We suggest that Lavallin concentrate their attentions upon the apprehension of those responsible for the craven missile attack upon the peace conference.

From:Ministry of Defense Danu

To: All nations 32 County Irish Republic


Reconaissance has picked up a missile launch and subsequent nuclear detonation in the nation of Bodies Without Organs. Due to this dangerous new development in the war with British Imperialism we have mobilized additional forces. All reserves have 24 hours to report for duty and NBC and HAZMAT exercises. Medical units have been placed on high alert status. Danuann hospitals are available should the need come to pass. We shall take steps in order to secure Regional Defense. Each nation shall receive in the next 48 hours a company of Patriot missile batteries for temporary defense. In addition Danuann AWACS shall be active throughout international waters around 32 County Irish Republic. Any nations needing further assistance need contact the Ministry of Defense. All nations willing to lend further aid to regional defense contact this office or President MacDougal.


Kyle Patrick MacDougal Deputy Minister of Defense, Nation of Danu
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"So... let me get this straight. We lost them, found them, and lost them again? Only we never really found them at all and now we could be escorting a shipment of beaver pelts to the coast of Germany?!" O'Neill was obviously pissed. Not only had his friends disappeared, they now had an "international incident" on their hands in trying to escort the supposed rescue plane carrying his 32 CIR brethren. "Can someone tell me WHY we continue to dump billions and billions of Insane Irish Punts into the military when we can't even find ONE (harsh explicative) AIRPLANE?!"

"Sir, reports are coming in that Lavallin has them and they are safe..." An un-named communications tech calls out.

O'Neill looks at the young woman and stands up. He is understandibly furious. "I don't care if the United States of America has them! I WANT THEM FOUND AND I WANT THEM HERE!" He slams his fist into one of the expensive monitors covering one of many panels in his B-52. It does not move, but his hand suffers the brunt anyway. After wailing in pain he clinches the same fist again and grits his teeth.

"GENERAL MacINTYRE! GET US OUT OF HERE AND FIND MY FRIENDS! You keep those helicopters and ships RIGHT WHERE THEY ARE, they stay until BWO asks us to leave."

"Yes Sir!!" MacIntyre about-faces and bolts for the cockpit. O'Neill turns back to the woman he just got finished screaming at and before he returns to barking orders, he lights a cigarette and takes a swig of his favorite Irish commodity: Irish Whiskey, of course. He looks to the cup of half-drank coffee sitting next to the bottle, and spikes the still-steaming brew with a shot of it.

"Lieutenant Adams, get on the HORN and inform Lavallin Air Command of our imminent arrival. Inform them of our peaceful but unwavering intentions to collect Maire & Fionn within the next two hours. REMIND them of the force coming their way, that force being namely OURSELVES. Make CERTAIN they know of our peaceful intentions and I want ABSOLUTELY NO MISTAKES! Lord knows the last thing we need is ANOTHER international incident!"

"Sir!" she replies, instantly following her directives to the letter.

"McGuire!!" O'Neill calls out to his "diplomatic incident officer" for his prompt attention.

A wiry man dressed in a smoking jacket, t-shirt, and blue jeans adjusts his glasses as he races into view. A younger man in the world of politics at the age of 26, he was a personal friend of the O'Neill family, as were his ancestors before him. He's already ahead of RedHand.

"Red, I'm writing the formal apology to BWO now, they will have it within the hour. Smoke another cigarette and save some of the juice for me." A playful smile comes across his face as he wipes the sweat from his forehead.

O'Neill offered a short chuckle and nodded at him. McGuire disappears, the B-52 can be felt changing course with the rest of the 36 FRoNIF escort aircraft following suit. Several of the F-15's take the lead while F-22's are refueled by an awaiting tanker. Regular as clockwork.

Sip of coffee, drag of cigarette, hand throbbing like he just smashed it against a brick wall. Already bruised and swollen, O'Neill makes another wise decision.

"And SOMEBODY get me a GODDAMN medic in here!"

OOC: Apologies for the confusion, folks, 3 pages of posts and the last one I saw was Maire & Fionn boarding an evacuation plane. Specific apologies to Lavallin, I don't know how I missed a Stealth Bomber evacuating the leaders of 2 equally great nations. Your stealth technology is that good! Also, this very post has been delayed for the past 24 hours due to some sort of bug in my internet explorer and the involvement of cookies. You have NO idea how incredibly pissed off I was.

BWO, you can decide how to RP this incident, of course. It was an honest mistake from an over-protective leader, and my personal apologies to you. The coordinates sent would have been encoded and of no use to the plane we surrounded without Maire & Fionn on board. FRoNIF helicopters and ships will continue to offer assistance, render aid, and remain in your territory until you decide otherwise.

War. Never more confusing than when one finds themselves in it.

Let Me Be clear on some facts Missed:

1: Lavallin has NO forces IN BI proper, it had landed a force with raptors but if any BOTHER to READ the PAST posts I posted where I Was PULLING out the Raptors except those that did not heed the Call
so Lavallin has no forces IN BI.

2: It however DOES have Naval forces around BI, In atlantic, In irish Sea, and there STILL is **MY POINT** a State of WAR with BI, until that is resolved it is ABSURD for DD people to ORDER me to remove forces RIGHTFULLY there under international laws because of the STATE of WAR with BI allows me to be THERE, if DD attacks Lavallins forces it will violate assumed international laws which allow me under a WAr state to be where I am.

3: The Irish sea separates BI and 32 Nations, I hereby DECLARE it an exclusion zone, no Forces but allies, and 32 Nations are tolerated, BI attacked arcoss that Sea, while a state of war is still in force NO BI and NO allies of BI are to be WITHIN that SEA.

Lavallin WILL attack any intruding Naval Forces.

4: My PIQU with British Commonwealth was the bit about its navy surrounding BI while that went vs other postings of me having Naval forces around the areas, They may have naval forces but Lavallin has had fleets in and around the BI waters, you cant state surround and control waters around BI while Lavallin has had fleets in those waters.

5: Lavallin is Withdrawing to 12 miles Off the BI coasts in North Sea, It remains with a force in Channel, UNTIL there is a PEACE made, any firing on Lavallins forces by DD will result in retalition

6: I will note the mentioned space defenses you DD better respect that I have a SDI system and ANY attempt knock it out will be seen as an nuclear strike upon Lavallin and i will go Nuclear, sorry people but no nation would sit still while its SDI assets got shot up I'm noting this in case any DD are fool enough say they killed my SDI satellites if an fight occurs between DD-Lavallin.

7: spy satellites are fair game, if DD shoots all your nations satellites that are communication and spy will be hit it goes with out saying, I have alot up there nd you CANNOT stop me from taking out some of them.

SDI assets will be resected

8: Do respect I DO have a 700+ million population with a FRIGHTENING economy and ranked at top of 32 nations armed rankings, read my nation, First thing spent on is Defence, never mind percentages its a Frightening Economy thats been pumping first and foremost into Defence.

I AM NOT a WIMP nation to take on

9: DD has to start respecting there IS a STATE of WAR with 32 Nation and DD, you cannot just push in here and threaten attacks unless we "give up" You allowed a nation at war to join your region in this thread, frankly I would PREFER that the thread only be between 32 Nation and BI and that it be treated as all that "occured" BEFORE BI ever joined DD, that nothing HERE has happened while in DD, that it is "in the Past" and DD people get out of the thread.

If You cannot you have to respect the STATE of WAR fact and you cannot simply walk in, threaten attacks and say you can wipe up US, you have no right to assume your bigger and badder then any of US.

At a pinch I can have my Population mobilized into an army of 400+ million, including Militias supporting the Emergency Reserves which would
support the Reserves that support the multi-Million Regular forces, you cannot simply INVADE my Nation with impunity.

Note also I posted my scientists took BI bio weapons and IMPROVED on them, it was POSTED here.

I have a WORSE version of Flesh Eating Virius and My Populations been vaccinated vs it, the 32 Nations have been given the vaccine to be used too, Invade Me at your risk any nation being invaded would use all its weapons, you have NO vaccine vs my Bio weapon cause you have No samples of it, I estimate it would kill at least 50-60 pct of every DD nations populations. PERIOD.


I liked this thread Till ***DD*** Not ME started talking of waging war, it was the DD nations that started threatening force unless we, who are rightfully in and around BI due to a state of war with BI caused BEFORE BI was in DD get out.

Thats talking War, not Me, its DD peeps talking WAR, I'm responding to their Threats of War.

Again I say the DD peeps should excuse themselves out of this thread and let it run out as a thing occuring BEFORE BI joined DD because it STARTED when BI was NOT in DD!!



I've had my say and Rant... sorry if it offends any but I do perceive these DD peeps as being interferring in a thing that had nothing to do with their prissy Region when it was started!

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OOC Lavallin... calm down.
We know darn well what is going on. We're aware that you were invaded first and we are _still_ intervening in this conflict. You can't say we are ignoring what has happened.
We _do_ know that they started it and quite frankly I suspect that we are paying more attention to recent revelations than you are.

We have read it, we are comming anyway... what are you going to do about it.
(Note that the above is intended as a friendly challenge, not an insulting one)

BWO...
I am in favour of Number 3. Most definately ;)
I almost agree with Lavallin: this was enjoyable as a post-war peace-talk RP and could have continued in that vein for some time more... but people are turning this into a war again. REgretable, but its happened.
I'll keep trying to do diplomacy if you will.


I never was against any "rescue" it started out that way, its now certain DD ORDERING Lavallins forces out of area, and a bad assumption Lavallin has forces in BI, It has only now Naval forces around BI, I'm at war with BI, till peace My forces remain in the area at Sea, I have been threatened FIRST by other DD nations and THEY are ones provoking a possiable war, I'm saying if they post they fired on my ships that will cause a war.

DD was first to post that they would "remove" ships in area, thats not respecting my right to be in the waters while theres STILL BI naval forces that have not surrendered.

DD was first to threaten to use force to remove mine.

OOC: Idea. I saw a tag on another topic that had the line (Invite Only - Serious RP) in the subject. Could we not make this one just such an exercise in order to preserve the incredible RP going on here and ignore the unwanted intrusions by other nations with or without good intentions?

Preserve the rights of those originally involved and therefore discount and ignore the observations/posting/flaming of other, NOT INVOLVED nations clogging up the system? Agree that those invited will be treated as gospel, others in here shouting vulgarity and other nonsense absolutely ignored?

No idea how we would all agree who gets the invites and who doesn't, other than those of us who KNOW were involved in this in the beginning and still have a desire to see this thing through.

Just an idea, submitted in most humble appreciation and respect of the TRUE role playing characters in the best thread I have ever had the honor of being a part of.

OOC-

I am afraid to say it, but I believe you may have a few misconceptions Lavallin. Devil's Desert nations have a right to be here; whilst I agree we were not here at the start, this is known as change. It is somewhat of a constant within the universe, things do not stay the same as they always were. Our intervention (I say our but I am only truly able to speak for myself) is not yet military, and I for one wish to avoid this, but your 'mine-is bigger than yours' mentality is unnecessary. What will happen should be decided through the medium of roleplay I would hope, as opposed to you ranting and bitching. It is unnecessary and needless.
I would like to think that you will be able to understand my position on this matter, war is not inevitable, nor that likely. This is diplomacy.

OOC-

I am afraid to say it, but I believe you may have a few misconceptions Lavallin. Devil's Desert nations have a right to be here; whilst I agree we were not here at the start, this is known as change. It is somewhat of a constant within the universe, things do not stay the same as they always were. Our intervention (I say our but I am only truly able to speak for myself) is not yet military, and I for one wish to avoid this, but your 'mine-is bigger than yours' mentality is unnecessary. What will should, be decided through the medium of roleplay I would hope, as opposed to you ranting and bitching. It is unnecessary and needless.
I would like to think that you will be able to understand my position on this matter, war is not inevitable, nor that likely. This is diplomacy.


You miss the point in it is DD nations threatening to "remove" my fleets rightfully in place since I'm at war still with BI.

If any started the blow up it was DD changing from coming to help BI civilians to ordering Me and others out of "their Region"

That basically has KILLED the thread, no respect for fact I'm in a state of war with BI.

At this point from this point until DD peeps respect prior role playing and STOP with threats of "removing Fleets" I'm from this point forward ignoring any postings of DD nations as if their not here, they can Nuke me and its not happening.

there was NO problem until a few DD posted they would "remove" forces in Bi and Fleets around BI and snobberly used a "our regional boundary" card.

Back to game: Ignoring all DD threats..


The Stealth Jet lands on the Main Super Carrier while the 25 Stealth Fighters stay in cover with the task Fleets Own Air cover, Lavallin delegate says to his guests "ah we have landed, I'm sure you both are relieved and wish to get in contact with your people, if you will follow me I;ll take you to where you can communicate with them, (gets up) If you will please follow me.."

OOC

Groan!

Lavallin I'll change My previous stance to correspond with your other threads,

My navies can be in Bi within 24-hours
Happy?

And will please people remember..

that i have forces in BI!!

You can't just watonly march into there and try to take over cause I will defend them :twisted:

And By the way My SAS Are searching all of stewarts old hideouts for him
they'll find him, Cause British Commonwealth Need him

Back to game: Ignoring all DD threats..


The Stealth Jet lands on the Main Super Carrier while the 25 Stealth Fighters stay in cover with the task Fleets Own Air cover, Lavallin delegate says to his guests "ah we have landed, I'm sure you both are relieved and wish to get in contact with your people, if you will follow me I;ll take you to where you can communicate with them, (gets up) If you will please follow me.."

Fionn follows "Thanks for the lift. Yes I'm sure everyone is quite worried. Rather hard to miss a nuclear blast."

A medical base in the Republic.

Enrique remains in a hopital bed, despite his desire to get up and start back to work. The doctors threatened to sedate him if he tried to leave, so presently he's stuck doing his paperwork in bed. Presently he's busy working on trying to draw up a peace aggreement for all nations currently in a state of war, including BWO. So far, he's failing. Many of the nations want different things fron BI, so its difficult trying tocome up with a comprmise. "Maybe we should just make a seperate peace with them. This is hopeless. No way that everyone is going to be able to agree on a treaty. And then there's still the renegade group. Well, we'll just have to blow up that particular bridge when we reach it."

That basically has KILLED the thread, no respect for fact I'm in a state of war with BI.

At this point from this point until DD peeps respect prior role playing and STOP with threats of "removing Fleets" I'm from this point forward ignoring any postings of DD nations as if their not here, they can Nuke me and its not happening.

there was NO problem until a few DD posted they would "remove" forces in Bi and Fleets around BI and snobberly used a "our regional boundary" card.

Well, its certainly a much better way to remove fleets to just ignore them, right? That way you don't have to worry about, you know, losing.

Frankly I don't see how you can say we killed this thread. It doesn't look dead to me anyway. Your silly u cant du that so im ignoring u" attitude is what, if anything, will kill the RPing going on here. You havent even given us a chance to RP here before you go and IGNORE us. And you're calling US "snobberly!?"

Maybe you better re-examine things from a more reasonable perspective. If you have one.

Meanwhile in BWO the rescue and relief efforts continue in the face of growing futility and depression:

"...he met hundreds and hundreds who were fleeing, and every one of them seemed to be hurt in some way. The eyebrows of some were burned off and skin hung from their faces and hands. Others, because of pain, held their hands up as if carrying something in both hands. Some were vomiting as they walked. Many were naked or in the shreds of clothing. on some undressed bodies, the burns had made patterns - of undershirt straps and suspenders and, on the skin of some women, since white repelled the heat from the bomb and dark clothes absorbed it and conducted it to the skin, the shapes of flowers they had had on their kimonos. Many although injured themselves, supported relatives who were worse off. Almost all had their heads bowed, looked straight ahead, were silent, and showed no expression whatever."

John Hershey, Hiroshima (Penguin: Middlesex, 1946).
Originally published in the New Yorker magazine.
No infringement of rights intended.

*****

BWO NTB Relief Operation communiqué #3: 0 hours + 24 hours

Firestorms have sprung up above the burning forest expanses, and micro-climates have formed across the jagged terrain. Whirlwinds and twisters have come in to being and spread further destruction due to the massive differences in air pressure and temperature at the boundaries of the affected zone. One emergency medical facility was flattened when the warnings came too late, leaving a wide swathe of bodies, equipment and supplies scattered across the steep hillsides. Heavy rains have started falling in certain regions to the east of ground zero. Radiation counts in these areas are not confirmed, but the droplets are described as having 'a slick, dirty consistency that irritates the skin and eyes'.

The international community is thanked for their support in this time of trial. Relief efforts are being co-ordinated by the Civil Defence Committee, but at present they are too over-worked to issue official messages of gratitude. Official requests for contributions of less medicine and more bodybags have however been issued.

Police have been called into several locations to deal with cases of civil unrest. It is believed that an armed siege is still taking place in the village of Hjolmirstead, which is located six miles from ground zero. There are reports of gunshot fatalities on both sides. All members of the Civil Defence Force have been mobilised and brought into the south-western coastal area to deal with the relief effort.

Throughout the rest of the troubled nation there have been reports of further attacks on pan-British nationals. These have been roundly condemned by all official bodies and all those seeking protective custody are being granted it. There have been sporadic outbreaks of rioting and looting in the city centres, despite the populace having been advised to remain in their home-made safe rooms overnight. Security forces have not issued an estimated value of the destruction caused, nor officially released any reports of casualties. Hospitals have reported a steep increase in admissions due to 'accidental live ammunition discharges'. The police are expected to issue an official statement as the situation becomes more clear.

The meteorologists remain unsure as to the prevailing weather conditions to the south of New Tiger's Bay, but strong recommendations to stay clear of the area have been issued. The air remains dry and sizeable amounts of debris cast up during the explosion are still suspended in the atmosphere. Throughout BWO there have been reports of the burning red sunset of last night. Officials declined to comment. It is still not known which way the cloud of particulate matter will travel from BWO, whether southwards, to relatively safe dispersal over the ocean, or south-eastwards towards the region of 32CIR and the British Imperialist mainland.

Civilians are recommended to adhere to the principles laid down in the booklet Modern War: A Survivor's Guide, which was produced and distributed across the nation several weeks ago.

The serving Chair of the Body of Delegates, Franklin W. Hardy-Boyce, issued the following brief statement to all international leaders earlier today: "We call for no precipitous reaction to this incident, and wish to see that no similar retaliatory strikes are carried out in our name. We feel a great righteous anger at this attack upon our territory, but wish to urge all those currently talking war to step back for an instant and consider the repercussions and dreadful human cost that their actions might bring." Further comment is expected as the depth of the tragedy becomes clear.

8: Do respect I DO have a 700+ million population with a FRIGHTENING economy and ranked at top of 32 nations armed rankings, read my nation, First thing spent on is Defence, never mind percentages its a Frightening Economy thats been pumping first and foremost into Defence.
...
At a pinch I can have my Population mobilized into an army of 400+ million, including Militias supporting the Emergency Reserves which would
support the Reserves that support the multi-Million Regular forces, you cannot simply INVADE my Nation with impunity.


My my, a country of 700 million with an army of 400 million!

You know, you're right, I don't want any part of this. This thread is apparently for godmodders only. Sorry guys, but that combined with his uebervirus and bionic velociraptors just makes this guy such a ridiculous godmodder that I'd feel dirty contributing my RP resources to playing with him.

-doubled post-

"So... let me get this straight. We lost them, found them, and lost them again? Only we never really found them at all and now we could be escorting a shipment of beaver pelts to the coast of Germany?!" O'Neill was obviously pissed. Not only had his friends disappeared, they now had an "international incident" on their hands in trying to escort the supposed rescue plane carrying his 32 CIR brethren. "Can someone tell me WHY we continue to dump billions and billions of Insane Irish Punts into the military when we can't even find ONE (harsh explicative) AIRPLANE?!"

The people of BWO find great solace in these troubled times that the beaver skin export business to Germany has not been disrupted by the recent unfortunate events that have befallen their nation. They consider the escort granted to the Catalina Plant This Book a fitting tribute to their fallen countrymen.


OOC: SB, let's not be hasty here and let's not tar the whole thread with the one big brush. Let's all just take a deep breath and calm down for a moment or two.

Back to game: Ignoring all DD threats..


The Stealth Jet lands on the Main Super Carrier while the 25 Stealth Fighters stay in cover with the task Fleets Own Air cover, Lavallin delegate says to his guests "ah we have landed, I'm sure you both are relieved and wish to get in contact with your people, if you will follow me I;ll take you to where you can communicate with them, (gets up) If you will please follow me.."

IC: "Reports coming in, Sir. Intelligence supports the theory that the leaders of Psychik and Danu are safe aboard a Lavallin SuperCarrier at the following coordinates. (coordinates inserted here) The RMS Trefalgar and four escort destroyers have been diverted to the same coodinates. Three SeaHawk Helicopters with twelve AH-64 Apache Helicopters escorting them have been launched, the SeaHawks awaiting final landing clearance from Lavallin Sea Command."

RedHand was pleased with the intelligence information, though for some reason the term sounded almost oxymoronic. Military Intelligence. He smiles anyway and finishes his cup of coffee.

"MacIntyre, see to it that Lavallin Air AND Sea Command is kept apprised of our intentions to collect Maire and Fionn, and for Christ's sake... don't make it sound like an ultimatium. Lavallin has enough problems on their hands without a protocol breach going into red alert."

"Sir!" About-face, hurried walking for Comms.

"McGuire... tell me AGAIN that BWO understands and appreciates our relief efforts and doesn't hold us in bad taste for escorting their hides to Germany."

"You just said it yourself, count one international incident closed." McGuire takes a sip of his own spiked coffee and continues, but not before removing his spectacles and rubbing the bridge of his nose, eyes squinting shut. "We MAY have another problem with our guys so close to Lavallin's BEFORE receiving authorization..."

"Ahh to HELL with that. Lavallin is a trusted friend; they know our hearts. Taking Maire and Fionn back home will mean one less worry for them. Besides, Maire and Fionn ARE coming with us. Maire and I go way back, she will welcome a familiar face." RedHand smiles, remembering battles won and lost standing beside her.

"Even if that familiar face isn't so friendly anymore?" McGuire offers.

O'Neill flips a once-resting pencil in the direction of his friend. "This scowl is reserved for YOU, Kenneth." Still smiling he lights up a cigarette. The B-52 changes course yet again, flying countless circles around BWO and her territorial waters. "Get MacIntyre to change course again, I want to be there when Maire and Fionn are collected. And make sure he doesn't piss Lavallin off. You're too good at talking OUR way out of trouble."

McGuire stands and returns his glasses to their proper place, on his face. He smacks RedHand on the shoulder before following MacIntyre to comms.

"Adams, make sure BWO has our full support. I want Four C-130's inbound from Belfast immediately, packed with as many medical supplies as they can carry."

"Yes sir, right away." she replies, punching buttons here and there on one of the indestructible screens.

O'Neill looks down at his wrapped hand before issuing one more directive. "And Adams... make sure they're loaded with bodybags, too. Lord knows BWO will need em'."

Note also I posted my scientists took BI bio weapons and IMPROVED on them, it was POSTED here.

I have a WORSE version of Flesh Eating Virius and My Populations been vaccinated vs it, the 32 Nations have been given the vaccine to be used too, Invade Me at your risk any nation being invaded would use all its weapons, you have NO vaccine vs my Bio weapon cause you have No samples of it, I estimate it would kill at least 50-60 pct of every DD nations populations. PERIOD.

The Kingdom of Lavallin
"War Footing, Sinking all Derelict Hulks"
UN member.


OOC:
UN resolution: Elimination of Bio Weapons
A resolution to slash worldwide military spending.

Description: Biological weapons, if used during warfare or covertly, represent an enormous risk to the well-being of not just the target of said weapons, but potentially everyone on the planet. It is therefore imperative that nations eliminate these heinous weapons.

Implemented: Sat May 31 2003

Maybe you better re-examine things from a more reasonable perspective. If you have one.

Perhaps YOU should be one doing above.

<stuff>
1. Noted.

2: There is no such thing as International Law. There are the regulations of the membership of the United Nations, and signatories to the Geneva Convention.

3: The Irish sea separates BI and 32 Nations, I hereby DECLARE it an exclusion zone, no Forces but allies, and 32 Nations are tolerated, BI attacked arcoss that Sea, while a state of war is still in force NO BI and NO allies of BI are to be WITHIN that SEA.

Lavallin WILL attack any intruding Naval Forces.

No fleets have been sent into the Irish Sea.

4: Doesn't affect me.

5: Lavallin is Withdrawing to 12 miles Off the BI coasts in North Sea, It remains with a force in Channel, UNTIL there is a PEACE made, any firing on Lavallins forces by DD will result in retalition


The Murderous Tendencies fleets came in from the North Sea (think from Norway area) and have not fired on Lavallin forces.

6: I will note the mentioned space defenses you DD better respect that I have a SDI system and ANY attempt knock it out will be seen as an nuclear strike upon Lavallin and i will go Nuclear, sorry people but no nation would sit still while its SDI assets got shot up I'm noting this in case any DD are fool enough say they killed my SDI satellites if an fight occurs between DD-Lavallin.

I don't care about your SDI system, and I've not engaged it. My satellites were preparing to shoot down *nuclear weapons*

7: spy satellites are fair game, if DD shoots all your nations satellites that are communication and spy will be hit it goes with out saying, I have alot up there nd you CANNOT stop me from taking out some of them.
SDI assets will be resected

No, I can't stop you from taking out some of them. Good luck telling them apart from other, non-Whispering Voices satellites however.

8: Do respect I DO have a 700+ million population with a FRIGHTENING economy and ranked at top of 32 nations armed rankings, read my nation, First thing spent on is Defence, never mind percentages its a Frightening Economy thats been pumping first and foremost into Defence.
I AM NOT a WIMP nation to take on

No-one said you were a wimp nation. We're just bigger and with even more being spent on defence. No-one in the 'Desert that gets involved in wars is below 1500 on worldwide spending. Some are well below 500.

9: DD has to start respecting there IS a STATE of WAR with 32 Nation and DD, you cannot just push in here and threaten attacks unless we "give up" You allowed a nation at war to join your region in this thread, frankly I would PREFER that the thread only be between 32 Nation and BI and that it be treated as all that "occured" BEFORE BI ever joined DD, that nothing HERE has happened while in DD, that it is "in the Past" and DD people get out of the thread.

There is currently no state of war between 32 nations and Devils Desert that I'm aware of. When did you declare it? And we're not going to leave just because you can't cope that your vast overwhelming numbers have suddenly become less overwhelming.

If You cannot you have to respect the STATE of WAR fact and you cannot simply walk in, threaten attacks and say you can wipe up US, you have no right to assume your bigger and badder then any of US.

Aside from our region's universally higher military spending and bigger sizes?

At a pinch I can have my Population mobilized into an army of 400+ million, including Militias supporting the Emergency Reserves which would
support the Reserves that support the multi-Million Regular forces, you cannot simply INVADE my Nation with impunity.

I never said we could, however those numbers display only the fact you are utterly clueless when it comes to logistics. Go look up and read all the threads about military sizes and military spending. An army of 400 million out of 700 million is ... not happening. Period. Unless you arm cripples and old women.

Note also I posted my scientists took BI bio weapons and IMPROVED on them, it was POSTED here.

I have a WORSE version of Flesh Eating Virius and My Populations been vaccinated vs it, the 32 Nations have been given the vaccine to be used too, Invade Me at your risk any nation being invaded would use all its weapons, you have NO vaccine vs my Bio weapon cause you have No samples of it, I estimate it would kill at least 50-60 pct of every DD nations populations. PERIOD.

Sure. You can have things. We've specialised in BC weapons since before your nation was born.


I liked this thread Till ***DD*** Not ME started talking of waging war, it was the DD nations that started threatening force unless we, who are rightfully in and around BI due to a state of war with BI caused BEFORE BI was in DD get out.

Thats talking War, not Me, its DD peeps talking WAR, I'm responding to their Threats of War.

Both sides are talking war.

Again I say the DD peeps should excuse themselves out of this thread and let it run out as a thing occuring BEFORE BI joined DD because it STARTED when BI was NOT in DD!!

We invited them in.


I've had my say and Rant... sorry if it offends any but I do perceive these DD peeps as being interferring in a thing that had nothing to do with their prissy Region when it was started!

:evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :x :evil: :twisted:

The fate of British Imperialism is worth a lot to us. As Thulackack said, things change. War is not guaranteed. However, I'm playing an in character response to having a Cardinal of my Catholic Church, a highly influential body within my nation, almost wiped out by a nuclear strike. Combined with my country's military stance, fanaticism, huge military spending, I think you can see why it turned into threats from an IC perspective, no? You have no justified reason for an OOC ignore other than the fact you're scared you're going to lose, by the way. Which I suggest you rethink, because doing that really tips a country's reputation down the dump.

8: Do respect I DO have a 700+ million population with a FRIGHTENING economy and ranked at top of 32 nations armed rankings, read my nation, First thing spent on is Defence, never mind percentages its a Frightening Economy thats been pumping first and foremost into Defence.
...
At a pinch I can have my Population mobilized into an army of 400+ million, including Militias supporting the Emergency Reserves which would
support the Reserves that support the multi-Million Regular forces, you cannot simply INVADE my Nation with impunity.


My my, a country of 700 million with an army of 400 million!

You know, you're right, I don't want any part of this. This thread is apparently for godmodders only. Sorry guys, but that combined with his uebervirus and bionic velociraptors just makes this guy such a ridiculous godmodder that I'd feel dirty contributing my RP resources to playing with him.



Read: Japan... Estimated deaths for invaders and civilians if Allies had had to invade.

My Virius was posted about LONG ago in this threat where Lavallin scientists "improved" a simplistic Virius of BI.

Japan was reasy and willing to mobilize its entire Population, facts support that they WOULD have done so.

Its not God Modding to think that a Nation could have 400 million armed, any Child old enough to walk and use weapons would be armed, every man and Woman...

I was referring to if you invaded Lavallin.

If you really think its godmodding tell me how it is any different then DD posts that they have such forces they could easy take me on, isn't THAT godmodding too, assuming I could Not hurt DD nations?

Again the Virius was posted about HERE Long back, its clear YOU new to this thread have not read the whole thing from post #1 to now.


Posts here talk of effects of BI's flesh eating virius, Rping a nation of high Bio-techs I RP Posted of taking BI simplistic virius and Improving It long ago so I'm not making it up on spur of moment!

Your proving my point about DD coming in and disregarding previous RPing here.

Note also I posted my scientists took BI bio weapons and IMPROVED on them, it was POSTED here.

I have a WORSE version of Flesh Eating Virius and My Populations been vaccinated vs it, the 32 Nations have been given the vaccine to be used too, Invade Me at your risk any nation being invaded would use all its weapons, you have NO vaccine vs my Bio weapon cause you have No samples of it, I estimate it would kill at least 50-60 pct of every DD nations populations. PERIOD.

The Kingdom of Lavallin
"War Footing, Sinking all Derelict Hulks"
UN member.


OOC:
UN resolution: Elimination of Bio Weapons
A resolution to slash worldwide military spending.

Description: Biological weapons, if used during warfare or covertly, represent an enormous risk to the well-being of not just the target of said weapons, but potentially everyone on the planet. It is therefore imperative that nations eliminate these heinous weapons.

Implemented: Sat May 31 2003

OOC:
Your point is taken, however as we have danced this dance before it reads more as a suggestion then an UN Ultimation.

Besides The lavallin Scientists improved it while working on it to make a vaccine vs the virius BI had used on 32 Cty.

How fast it could be actually deployed I cant say, its like having a sample of Smallpox..

These Scientists... they are like children sometimes... no one ordered them do it, they did it just to do it...

No, I can't stop you from taking out some of them. Good luck telling them apart from other, non-Whispering Voices satellites however.


There is currently no state of war between 32 nations and Devils Desert that I'm aware of. When did you declare it? And we're not going to leave just because you can't cope that your vast overwhelming numbers have suddenly become less overwhelming.

I never said we could, however those numbers display only the fact you are utterly clueless when it comes to logistics. Go look up and read all the threads about military sizes and military spending. An army of 400 million out of 700 million is ... not happening. Period. Unless you arm cripples and old women.


OOC:
Some Nations track every launch in world and the orbits of things, it can be possiable to lose track of things but satellites launched and such can be tracked and kept track of as in R/L


The War with DD was a Typo, my edited post didnt register on board.

Japan in 1945 was preparred to fight its whole population...

Sure a 700 million nation couldn't arm most of its people, actually most ARE armed, I keep agreeing with the NRA on guns and so My people all can and many do own guns... registered of course by the allways watching police I have..

If you really think its godmodding tell me how it is any different then DD posts that they have such forces they could easy take me on, isn't THAT godmodding too, assuming I could Not hurt DD nations?


I'm not sure what your logic here. No one in the DD is claiming to have more than half their population armed or armable. Its godmodding because if you mobilized such a huge force, they'd be forced to scavenge throughout the countryside for food and supplies like a huge locust, much as armies historically did before modern logistics capability. The national economy would shut down within a few days. You'd have rampant problems with electricity, fuel, shipping, emergency services, the breakdown of social order. Not to mention logistics and munitions. I wonder if you'd even have enough rocks to arm them all with.


Posts here talk of effects of BI's flesh eating virius, Rping a nation of high Bio-techs I RP Posted of taking BI simplistic virius and Improving It long ago so I'm not making it up on spur of moment!

Sure, okay. I retract implication that it was a godmod. However, being able to claim how many of my citizenry would die if you used it or tried to use it, is.

I also admit I haven't read every single post here. However, what you're doing is ignoring my ONE post. Its hard to read through pages and pages of solid RP. Its comparitively easy to respond to my ONE post. But no, you instead chose to ignore it.


Your proving my point about DD coming in and disregarding previous RPing here.

No, I'm not, and you aren't either.

My apologies to the rest of you who I offhandedly implied were godmodders. So far its just Lavallin.

Back to game:

Out In Atlantic, in the area where ongoing investigation of the cruisers still
occuring, an unknown sub is detected... after attempts to identitify it fail, several high speed torpedos take it out... Analysis of its noise signature will continue...


In Irish Sea... another Alfa Sub is found, It is summary sunk, after attempts to force it to surface fail.


It is in relatively shallow waters, it maybe possiable to get to the wreckage and identify the unknown nation.

I'm not sure what your logic here. No one in the DD is claiming to have more than half their population armed or armable. Its godmodding because if you mobilized such a huge force, they'd be forced to scavenge throughout the countryside for food and supplies like a huge locust, much as armies historically did before modern logistics capability. The national economy would shut down within a few days. You'd have rampant problems with electricity, fuel, shipping, emergency services, the breakdown of social order. Not to mention logistics and munitions. I wonder if you'd even have enough rocks to arm them all with.

My apologies to the rest of you who I offhandedly implied were godmodders. So far its just Lavallin.


Dammitt... the 400 million wouldn't be organized armys, but the citizan militias, Take a look at USA, the numbers of people who own Guns, if USA was Actually invaded any invader would contend with its armed citizans, I own guns, I'd fight and die.

I don't outlaw Guns in Lavallin.


And if Japan could arm its citizans , with whatever was at hand, so could I RP such an arming in face of an invasion, I'm resenting your godmodding accustations when I'm basing things on historical facts.

I'm not sure what your logic here. No one in the DD is claiming to have more than half their population armed or armable. Its godmodding because if you mobilized such a huge force, they'd be forced to scavenge throughout the countryside for food and supplies like a huge locust, much as armies historically did before modern logistics capability. The national economy would shut down within a few days. You'd have rampant problems with electricity, fuel, shipping, emergency services, the breakdown of social order. Not to mention logistics and munitions. I wonder if you'd even have enough rocks to arm them all with.

My apologies to the rest of you who I offhandedly implied were godmodders. So far its just Lavallin.


Dammitt... the 400 million wouldn't be organized armys, but the citizan militias, Take a look at USA, the numbers of people who own Guns, if USA was Actually invaded any invader would contend with its armed citizans, I own guns, I'd fight and die.

I don't outlaw Guns in Lavallin.


And if Japan could arm its citizans , with whatever was at hand, so could I RP such an arming in face of an invasion, I'm resenting your godmodding accustations when I'm basing things on historical facts.

Bear in mind that Japan never actually DID face an invasion, nor employed their citizen militias (which included children with bombs strapped to them, if I remember right) in massive warfare. Anyway, it was a very drastic measure for them to take, and they took it on in very desperate circumstances. You mentioned your 400 million militia like right away, you cant just be throwing that around whenever you feel like it. If its possible at all, its only a last resort. Since it would, at the very least, be very destructive of your own nation as I described.

Its kinda moot since no one was talking about invading your country. And the point is DD people are ignored or what? Are you going to accept that BI had connections with us, or just ignore it?

I'm happy to get into the game here and quit this bickering, but being OOCly ignored right off the bat wasnt exactly inviting shall we say.

OOC- LAVALIN ONLY

I cannot understand your perspective. No nation from the Devil's Desert has implicated that any invasion of your country was due to take place. I seem to recall only offers to support BI. Your paranoia is unnecessary, you are the only one that has mentioned escalating this to both war and then to a nuclear level.
I think you will find that, as good role-players, Devil's Desert memebers would not be involved unless they were both familiar with and had good reasons for entering into the existing storyline. It is only courtesy to allow us to roleplay appropriate actions for our nations as they relate to these issues. You have assumed everything and based nothing upon the actual facts. NOw, please let us do what we feel is necessary, just as we will allow you the same right.

OOC- LAVALIN ONLY

I cannot understand your perspective. No nation from the Devil's Desert has implicated that any invasion of your country was due to take place. I seem to recall only offers to support BI. Your paranoia is unnecessary, you are the only one that has mentioned escalating this to both war and then to a nuclear level.
I think you will find that, as good role-players, Devil's Desert memebers would not be involved unless they were both familiar with and had good reasons for entering into the existing storyline. It is only courtesy to allow us to roleplay appropriate actions for our nations as they relate to these issues. You have assumed everything and based nothing upon the actual facts. NOw, please let us do what we feel is necessary, just as we will allow you the same right.

Leave my fleets I have around BI area alone, the threat to "remove" fleets ticked me off, and any "attack" to remove is why I said it would go nuclear.

Don't Rp an removal and theres nothing going happen, RP a removal by attacking Lavallin Fleets and I go total war.

Is it so hard to understand?

Princess Maire shakily steps off Lavallin's jet, grateful to be alive. Among the crowd she spots a familiar face: Sir RedHand.

She leaves her husband's side for the first time since the air raid went off back in BWO and rushes into O'Neill's arms, kissing him on the cheek.

"Thank You for helping us."

She looks at Fionn then back to O'Neill.

" I need to get to a command center pronto. What are we doing to aid BWO? Come, we can talk on the way back to The 32 CIR. And I thought we had it bad when Lord Stewart attacked us."

Lavalin, I must say, I have neither threatened your fleets nor your homelands nor anything else of yours. What I have done is to offer to protect BI interests. It is for them to decide what those are and what, if any help is required from her allies.
Incidently, your abusive tone is neither necessary nor particularly effective. Please refrain from such in future posts.

OOC: Never mind. If I can post it when drunk and irritable now, I can post it better in the morning when I am sober. [light-hearted] Whew! That unscheduled interruption of the peace-talks certainly put a cat amongst the pigeons. Let's not let all this effort go to waste... [/light-hearted].

Ignore this, dodgy conncetion playing up.

Ignore, same bastard dodgy connection.

I really do apologise for this, same pathetic attempts at communication thwarted by crap software. Not trying to push my post numbers up at all....:)

Princess Maire shakily steps off Lavallin's jet, grateful to be alive. Among the crowd she spots a familiar face: Sir RedHand.

She leaves her husband's side for the first time since the air raid went off back in BWO and rushes into O'Neill's arms, kissing him on the cheek.

"Thank You for helping us."

She looks at Fionn then back to O'Neill.

" I need to get to a command center pronto. What are we doing to aid BWO? Come, we can talk on the way back to The 32 CIR. And I thought we had it bad when Lord Stewart attacked us."


Lavallins Delegate Turns from talking to the Lavallin Admiral in charge of the Lavallin TF on the Lavallian Super Carrier "Shamrock", My lady, if you will follow Me we will now go to the Secure Communications center.

OOC: Lavallin, you will note that I'm not saying you don't have a bioweapon or ignoring previous posts, just that you don't have a guarantee it will cause untold harm to my population or my army. Likewise, you seem to be having a hard time seperating OOC talking and IC spiel. The IC spiel is by its very nature IC and has a different emphasis.

Princess Maire shakily steps off Lavallin's jet, grateful to be alive. Among the crowd she spots a familiar face: Sir RedHand.

She leaves her husband's side for the first time since the air raid went off back in BWO and rushes into O'Neill's arms, kissing him on the cheek.

"Thank You for helping us."

She looks at Fionn then back to O'Neill.

" I need to get to a command center pronto. What are we doing to aid BWO? Come, we can talk on the way back to The 32 CIR. And I thought we had it bad when Lord Stewart attacked us."


Lavallins Delegate Turns from talking to the Lavallin Admiral in charge of the Lavallin TF on the Lavallian Super Carrier "Shamrock", My lady, if you will follow Me we will now go to the Secure Communications center.

IC: In the time it took RedHand to get from his B-52 onto one of the SeaHawks, the “Liberation” had already been aerial-refueled and was standing by for transfer of the various leaders. The parachute was a fun experience, though his hand was suffering a bit more from the cold air and cold water landing, not to mention the experience of convincing everyone on board the aircraft this was a possible means of transfer. He needed a change of clothes anyway, and he looked damn good in a flight suit. Water landing, plucked out of the ocean, change of clothes on the helicopter, Shamrock-bound.

After landing on board the Shamrock his SeaHawks began kicking all manner of supplies off, including many, MANY cases of aged Irish Whiskey and carton after carton of varying types of cigarettes. After all, this is war... not Sunday Mass. Medical supplies, various maps and books of all sorts, educational reading, entertainment supplies including video game systems, stereo systems, and portable data transmitters. Better to be alert at all times, even when off-duty.

RedHand made his way through the crowd to smash very happily into Princess Maire, holding her tight and almost crying so glad to see her safe. He extends his good hand from behind Maire to shake Fionn's heartily, equally elated to see him safe and sound as well.

After releasing Marie back into Fionn's arms he looks at them both in their beautiful, mutually-reassuring embrace. "Come, we go NOW to fortify the Castle. Much has happened, and I'm sure much more will..."

Turning to the Lavallin delegate and admiral, he salutes them. Speaking directly to the delegate, "You are free to remain here of course, my friend, but I would suggest you come with us. We need Lavallin's eyes and ears here, but you with us."

He turns in the direction of his helicopters, AH-64's hovering close to the helicopters on deck, more circling the Shamrock, carefully avoiding interruption of Lavallin's impressive military machine. Looking at the Commander of SeaHawk #2 O'Neill makes a whirling motion with his hand. The choppers never actually shut down, but #2 takes off anyway on a mission of its own. #1 & #3 finish offloading supplies, a group of crewmembers rushing over to escort RedHand, Maire, Fionn, and the Lavallin delegate (should he choose to come) into the waiting aircraft.

After seeing all on board safely and before boarding the helicopter himself, RedHand smiles, knowing what's coming. Apache's clear the immediate area, SeaHawk #2 well out of the way by now, and precisely timed in order to avoid Lavallin's own aircraft, his giant B-52 StratoFortress "Liberation" comes into view. He points it out to Fionn and Maire as it descends further and further, coming within 50 feet above the conning tower of Lavallin's SuperCarrier Shamrock and buzzes the entire ship with 8 roaring jet engines set to Full Throttle - Maximum Climb. It disappears long before everyone's buzzing ears will recover.

Smile as big as a kid with a new lollipop, RedHand is more than proud. The display was meant to instill pride in all of them, inspire, provoke, and remind them all that this was far from over. He smacks the FRoNIF national symbol on the outside of the SeaHawk as he climbs in, chopper lifting off and intercepting its 12 AH-64 Apache strong escort in harmonious timing. Sterling silver flasks bearing the same FRoNIF national symbol are handed to each of the leaders/delegate, RedHand taking a big swig. Cigarettes are also made available to those who wish.

"Captain, FOLLOW THAT PLANE!" O'Neill calls out grinning, their destination already clear: rendezvous somewhere top secret within 32 CIR sovereign territory and make plans for the coming heartache.

OOC: Edited for an extra "within" found... within the last sentence.

Fionn gladly takes the flask. After taking a long swig he smiles. "I needed that. Thanks." Fionn settles into one of the chairs, his face showing the strain of the past weeks. "So any informatation on who did that?"

Trevelyan takes the pill and the water bottle from the cardinal, using the latter to was down the former. "Thank you, my wife would never have forgiven me comming back neutered."

He considers the unfolding events for a while, then speaks...
"Look, we're getting pretty hard-line here... its all very well to bring up the troops for a show of force, but we seem to be running up against the paranoia of the warmongering nations on the other side. Lets keep this steady, shall we? War is the last thing we want... well, except Thulackack I expect, but its the first thing to benefit the people who've been manipulating this. And I think I can speak for all of Tarrican when I say we want the heads of the people responsible."

He leans over to borrow the communication gear... "Can I see what a little diplomacy can arrange?"

Through diplomatic channels to all parties involved, + the ariving DD nations.

"Gentlemen, Ladies, delegates all. First let me add my condolences for those people lost in the recent terror attack on BWO... if there is anything we can do to help the grieving relatives or to mitigate the suffering of the people of BWO, then we will gladly do it. And if any help is needed finding the people responsible for it, again, all help shall be rendered.

But there are more matters ahead, matters that have been made harder and more urgent by the recent terror. Actions must be taken and guarentees made to move things forward.

I offer the following guarentees in an attempt for peace:
1) No military vessel affiliated to the Devil's Desert will attempt to enter the Irish Sea or approach Ireland without express permission and an escort by navies who's home port is on that island.
2) No foreign nationals in conduct of reconstruction or humanitarian actions will be harmed, hassled or arrested.
3) Devil's Desert-affiliated aircraft will remain outside Irish airspace unless granted permission to enter.
4) We will declare war at least 24 hours before any order for attack goes ahead. Thus if it shoots at you, it isn't us. In fact, its probably either rebels or Red Tide.

I hope that this will stave off suggestions of conflict until we can find the people we need to conflict with.

Now.
The resumption of peace negociations. We propose that people make suggestions for a new venue to resume talks. We respectfully suggest that BWO should have the casting vote in determining such things, as they are the main peace-makers in this matter. We also request that copies of the evindence accumulated during the previous conference should be distributed to all delegates. We would also like to suggest that everyone remain calm and nobody do anything rash."

OOC I'd offer to host peace talks myself, but I'm about to go away from a computer for about a week, so it might not be the best time for me to become the host. Plus my anti-cruise-missile defences suck. :wink:

Home secretary Christopher Trumpington-Smythe says this...

"Eh? Bit of a to-do, what? Where's the Times? There was this thingy by that fella, Rees-Mogg, funny bloke."

Turning to the Lavallin delegate and admiral, he salutes them. Speaking directly to the delegate, "You are free to remain here of course, my friend, but I would suggest you come with us. We need Lavallin's eyes and ears here, but you with us."

He turns in the direction of his helicopters, AH-64's hovering close to the helicopters on deck, more circling the Shamrock, carefully avoiding interruption of Lavallin's impressive military machine. Looking at the Commander of SeaHawk #2 O'Neill makes a whirling motion with his hand. The choppers never actually shut down, but #2 takes off anyway on a mission of its own. #1 & #3 finish offloading supplies, a group of crewmembers rushing over to escort RedHand, Maire, Fionn, and the Lavallin delegate (should he choose to come) into the waiting aircraft.

After seeing all on board safely and before boarding the helicopter himself, RedHand smiles, knowing what's coming. Apache's clear the immediate area, SeaHawk #2 well out of the way by now, and precisely timed in order to avoid Lavallin's own aircraft, his giant B-52 StratoFortress "Liberation" comes into view. He points it out to Fionn and Maire as it descends further and further, coming within 50 feet above the conning tower of Lavallin's SuperCarrier Shamrock and buzzes the entire ship with 8 roaring jet engines set to Full Throttle - Maximum Climb. It disappears long before everyone's buzzing ears will recover.

Smile as big as a kid with a new lollipop, RedHand is more than proud. The display was meant to instill pride in all of them, inspire, provoke, and remind them all that this was far from over. He smacks the FRoNIF national symbol on the outside of the SeaHawk as he climbs in, chopper lifting off and intercepting its 12 AH-64 Apache strong escort in harmonious timing. Sterling silver flasks bearing the same FRoNIF national symbol are handed to each of the leaders/delegate, RedHand taking a big swig. Cigarettes are also made available to those who wish.

"Captain, FOLLOW THAT PLANE!" O'Neill calls out grinning, their destination already clear: rendezvous somewhere top secret within 32 CIR sovereign territory and make plans for the coming heartache.

OOC: Edited for an extra "within" found... within the last sentence.


Lavallin Delegate declines the offer, however he does appreicte the offer, there are things to do here he says, however 10 Stealth Jets , refueled will join in escorting you, that is a fine plane, however I am sure you can use the added escort.


As the b52 makes its display The Admiral softly mutters " Showoffs"

After they are gone the Delegate and Admiral head into the command center, to communicate with their Leader and decide what the Fleet should do, stay near BWO area or head back to 32 CIr waters, with some of the disturbing happenings occuring

Fionn gladly takes the flask. After taking a long swig he smiles. "I needed that. Thanks." Fionn settles into one of the chairs, his face showing the strain of the past weeks. "So any informatation on who did that?"

IC: After briefing Maire and Fionn on what information the FRoNIF Intelligence Sector had gathered thus far, that being of the possibility of Stewart being cloned and possibly the queen of england herself, the clone(s) being responsible for the nuclear missile attack, BWO relief efforts under way, and current estimated fatalities, RedHand finishes off his own flask and extinguishes his cigarette.

An hour later, they are all safely aboard the aloft Liberation. Medical attention given as well as radiation sickness tags for Maire and Fionn, showers, food, and changes of clothes made available for everyone, and let's not forget the booze and smokes.

An escort of mammoth proportions, the Liberation is surrounded by support aircraft of all shapes and sizes. 10 Stealth Fighter Jets generously provided by the people of Lavallin, a fleet of refueling tankers at key points for all within the group, AWACS and other advanced electronic warfare aircraft, and of course multiple fighter escorts locked into parallel patrol designations 24/7. All told, some 32 aircraft make up the group including stealth protection.

All preparations considered and completed, RedHand gathers Maire and Fionn into the SitRep conference room. An immense onyx marble table sits in the middle of the room, surrounded by comfortable leather captain's chairs adorned with the FRoNIF national symbol. On one side, three larger chairs are set for Maire, Fionn, and RedHand, the opposite side full of military and other government representatives from the Free Republic of Northern Irish Freedom, RedHand's Council. The Council stands as the three enter the room, three more aides standing at various locations throughout the room. Large flat-panel plasma screens cover the walls, some 12 in all. Each display the national symbol of various nations involved in the current crisis, ranging from FRoNIF to Lavallin, Danu and Psychik, and also BWO adorned with a radiation symbol, BI, Tarrican, Whispering Voices, and all the others. Other expensive equipment can be found throughout the room, and detailed reports in folders bearing the words "TOP SECRET" below the familiar FRoNIF symbol and date/time stamp. Ink pens set beside the folders, and ashtrays and ice water pitchers placed around the table, crystal glasses of ice water not yet forming condensation are set on coasters beside each folder. The room is impressive. An entire war could be fought from here if needs be.

After sitting down, RedHand begins with a prayer. “Lord, give us the will to seek the truth, the courage to follow it, and the strength to endure. Amen.” The military commanders and aides join in on “Amen,” and O’Neill clears his throat.

“Questions?”

Abu-Dha Zatib grimaced as he looked at the huge mass of his battle-suit - before he'd even put the CPC plates in.

He turned to his commanding officer, sat lotus-legged on the floor, smoke escaping from her mouth as she clutched the stem of an elaborate bong.

"Sergeant - we're just doing cleanups, aren't we? Why are we putting on the full equipment?" He cast a hateful look at the heavy armour plating yet to be fitted into its pad.

Her eyes flickered open - the familiar, dazed expression that her troop recognised so well.

"Have you not seen Black Hawk Down, Private Zatib MT6903196437? The most balm of summer days turn quickly to blood, and the unwary will slip as the blood turns to flood. Our orders are to wear full protection, and full protection you are to be wearing." She sighed as she stood up, dark bronze skin shimmering in the artificial light. "Until we see the fair oasis of Mel'ahdad again, we are to act as those above is wish, and you are to being grateful for the protection of those suits. Our time of landing is at hand."

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The Murderous Tendencies fleets, having secured landing zones with - as requested by Tarrican - Liverpool being left out, moved in. Thousands of David Seamans surrounded the naval vessels, passively prepared for missile strikes. Cruisers and frigates ringed carriers, and below them all submarines trawled through the depths. Amphibious boats with flat keels and flat roofs powered into the shorelines, and lowered ramps. Behind them, similar boats clamped on, until almost a quarter of a mile away from shore the huge naval transports pulled up alongside the ends of the floating piers ... and disgorged troops. First, automated vehicles designed to locate and, if necessary, trigger mines sped out, covering the ground in small grid patterns of dust and tyre-tracks. They were closely followed by Land Rovers with guns and small missile banks, and those by VAB APCs. Soldiers began to troop out, huge numbers at each landing zone, guarded by Leclercs, MLRS, and Crusaders. Migs and Flankers took off to overfly the columns as they moved towards their target areas - Glasgow, Dundee, Newcastle, Norfolk, Portsmouth, Truro and Cardiff. AH64-D Longbows moved out, preceeded by Comanche scouts.

In the lead of each column, a 'Rover bearing a white flag of truce sped ahead, with a loudspeaker announcing that the troops were here for the protection of the citizens, and that food supplies would be following shortly.

Edit: Awesomeness. My first post comes round again, thanks to thread deletion.

We interupt regular broadcasting for an appeal from Archbishop Matthew Byrne of New Dublin ,to the world concerning the recent nuclear strike on the nation of Bodies without Organs:

ONCE again a critical hour strikes for the great human family; an hour of tremendous deliberations, towards which our heart cannot be indifferent and from which our spiritual authority, which comes to us from God to lead souls in the ways of justice and of peace must not hold itself aloof.

Behold us then with all of you, who in this moment are carrying the burden of so great a responsibility, in order that through our voice you may hear the voice of that Christ from Whom the world received the most exalted example of living, and in whom millions and millions of souls repose their trust in a crisis in which His word alone is capable of mastering all the tumultuous disturbances of the earth.

Behold us with you, leaders of peoples, men of State and men of arms, writers, orators of the radio and of the public rostrum and all those others who have the power to influence the thought and action of their fellow-men for whose destiny they are responsible.

We, armed only with the word of Truth and standing above all public disputes and passions, speak to you in the name of God from "Whom all paternity in heaven and earth is named"-in the name of Jesus Christ, Our Lord, who desired that all men be brothers-in the name of the Holy Ghost, Gift of God most High, inexhaustible source of love in the hearts of men.

To-day, notwithstanding our repeated exhortations and our very particular interest, the fear of bloody international conflict becomes more excruciating; to-day, when the tension of minds seems to have arrived at such a pass as to make the outbreak of the awful scourge of war appear imminent, we direct with paternal feeling a new and more heartfelt appeal to those in power and to their peoples: to the former that, laying aside accusations, threats, causes of mutual distrust, they may attempt to resolve their present differences with the sole means suitable thereto, namely, by reciprocal and trusting agreements; to the latter that in calm tranquillity, without disordered agitation they may encourage the peaceful efforts of those who govern them.

It is by force of reason and not by force of arms that Justice makes progress; and empires which are not founded on Justice are not blessed by God. Statesmanship emancipated from morality betrays those very ones who would have it so.

The danger is imminent but there is yet time.

Nothing is lost with peace; all may be with war. Let men return to mutual understanding. Let them begin negotiations anew. Conferring with goodwill and with respect for reciprocal rights they will find that to sincere and conscientious negotiators, an honourable solution is never precluded.

They will feel a sense of greatness-in the true sense of the word-if by silencing the voices of passion, be it collective or private, and by leaving to reason its rightful rule, they will have spared the blood of their fellow men and saved their country from ruin.

May the Almighty grant that the voice of this Father of the Christian family, of this Servant of servants, who bears amongst men, unworthily, indeed, but nevertheless really, the person, the voice and the authority of Jesus Christ, find in the minds and in the hearts of men a ready and willing reception.

May the strong hear us that they may not become weak through injustice, may the powerful hear us if they desire that their power be not a destruction but rather a protection for their peoples and a safeguard to tranquillity in public order and in labour.

We beseech them by the blood of Christ, whose conquering force in the world was His mildness in life and in death. And beseeching them we know and we feel that we have with us all those who are upright of heart; all those who hunger and thirst after justice all those who already suffer every sorrow through the evils of life. We have with us the heart of mothers which beats as one with ours; the fathers who would be obliged to abandon their families; the lowly who labour and do not understand; the innocent upon whom weighs heavily the awful threat; the young men, generous knights of the purest and noblest ideals. And with us also is the soul of this ancient Europe which was the product of the faith and of Christian genius. With us all humanity seeks justice, bread, freedom; not steel which kills and destroys. With us that Christ, Who has made His one solemn commandment-Love of One's Brother-the very substance of His religion and the promise of salvation for individuals and for nations.

Recalling finally that human efforts are of no avail without Divine assistance, we invite all to raise their eyes to Heaven and to beseech the Lord with fervent prayer that His divine grace descend in abundance upon this world in its upheaval, placate dissensions, reconcile hearts and evoke the resplendent dawn of a more serene future.

To this end and with this hope we impart to all, from the heart, our paternal Benediction.

Cardinal Mattias sighs as he listens to the speech by Archbishop Byrne of Danu. He takes a brief, introspective pull on the proffered water flask.

"Well, that speech has helped somewhat. I can only assume he's a Catholic archbishop, given he's from New Dublin." <drink> "Somewhat verbose, but yes - Love thy Brother. Hard to remember, especially when you can look out of the window and see the crater you almost provided dust for."

"Pilot, after Trevelyan finishes, patch me through ... "

...

<speech transmission to involved countries>

"This is Cardinal Mattias Schmidt of the Diocesal Administration of Whispering Voices. Recognising the plea of our brother in God, troops sent to the troubled region of British Imperialism have had their orders reaffirmed to give no violence to those who offer none; in addition, the troops of Vyse in London are granted offers of help and an indefinite extension upon their grace period within the Devil's Desert region. As they need to move out of the area and accrue a sea fleet - we can offer our own transport ships to ferry them to Ireland, should they so wish, or alternatively provide a missile defence screen against any future terrorist attacks, should they desire. I am also pleased to inform the conference that Tendencies troops have already entered the cities to which they were assigned as first contact, and have begun distributing food and medical supplies.

In addition, when the peace negotiations are recalled, I am willing to make available the platform of the Sultan's Qadim - a Murderous Tendencies carrier that is well protected against MLBMs."

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OOC: Kudos to Danu for a good speech - whether or not intentionally, such a thing was just what was required to bring down an enraged Mattias.

To: All nations involved in peace talks
From: Her Majesties government in exile
Re: Resumption of talks and location

Her Majesty hopes that recent tragedies shall not stall the peace conference. She would like the locale of the Isle of Man considered as a possible new conference location.

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Milton Harrison Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs

The singing voice in the darkness continues, reverberating around in its concrete surrounds:

"Take the toys from the boys
Gotta make a living
Take their hands off the guns
Gotta make a killing
Get their fingers off the button
Gotta get a promotion
Made a bomb..."

To add to the options for a place for continued peace talks, how about London. Multiple lines of ground forces, as well as anti-missile defenses, protect the city, which has had over 40% rebuilt.

As to the WV forces in BI. We appreciate the help in the humanitarian aid. Also, we request that you help us put down resistance from the remaining renegades. We're still being attacked when we go out on patrol, as well at our lines in London.

Statement issued byFranklin W. Hardy-Boyce, serving chairman of the Body of Delegates while viewing the devastation at New Tiger's Bay:

"In the name of sweet Jesus, people, what the hell are you doing? Surely as the de facto head of state of the nation that was hosting the peace talks, the responsiblity for calls for retaliation falls on my uneasy head. Let me reiterate the statement I made earlier today:

We call for no precipitous reaction to this incident, and wish to see that no similar retaliatory strikes are carried out in our name. We feel a great righteous anger at this attack upon our territory, but wish to urge all those currently talking war to step back for an instant and consider the repercussions and dreadful human cost that their actions might bring.

Much as we regret the loss of the Indra Prime delegate and their retinue, we find the idea of further bloodshed carried out in our name something to be considered very deeply. We do not currently have accurate casualty figures as a result of the single 220 kiloton device which penetrated defences, but we estimate them to be approximately 5000 already dead, 1000 facing chronic and terminal radiation poisoning, and another 2000 looking at a lifetime of long-term debilitating illness. We especially would like to point out to those who have not being paying attention that evidence identifying the exact nature of the perpetrators of this attack has not yet come to light. The people of the poor benighted nation of British Imperialism have already been literally decimated, and it is very possible that they were mere patsies when one looks at the big picture. Ladies, gentlemen, share with me a sense of righteous anger, but stay your hands and let your instruments of war stay at your side, sleeping in their sheathes, until the time is right. We seek to bring to justice the miscreants responsible for the launching of the 4 Tomahawk missiles at the conference centre, but right now our attention is turned to relieving the great suffering of those affected. A time will come for justice, and at that time, all those that are guilty shall be called to account for their crimes."


OOC: originally posted in the thread "British Imperialism and Indra Prime", reposted here so that all may see.

OOC: If Danu posts something that powerful again, I will be forced to withdraw from this game and join the clergy! Outstanding. Incredible. Enough to take my breath away. Awesome prayer, my friend.

IC: After hearing Archbishop Matthew Byrne's prayer, it is all RedHand can do to maintain. In his mind the battle rages, words cutting through a lifetime of upbringing in furious hatred for the British, memories of past atrocities, visions of current bloodshed, the loss of his brother and his brother's family. He is losing the battle to maintain, conviction on his soul and so much pain in his heart tear his usual rock-solid composure to shreds. He bows his head and the tears begin to flow. A waterfall ensues, years of torment and rage melt into hot tears on his face.

"With great power comes great responsibility..." his whispered words floating into the air like a feather's wind dance. Soon the only sound he can hear is a loud pounding in his ears, sounding like wardrums of ancient Irish times. When is the burden of memory too great that it decimates the hope of the future? When is the father's booming voice so loud that it drowns out the cries of his dying child? He had no children of his own, instead... the people of the Free Republic of Northern Irish Freedom looked to him as a father. In these times it was difficult to tell where his personal feelings of hatred for the British stopped and the hopes of an entire nation beside him began. He had no doubt the Eternal Father had put him in his place. Born into the position and not elected, the people were certain of his place of leadership, never once questioning the guiding hand of the Lord our God, in which they all trusted.

As the Liberation changed course again, just one of many times throughout the day, RedHand could feel something change within him, too. A glimpse of the sunrise after a long night of unfathomable darkness. How could 1,000 years of deeply-rooted hatred hope to compare to the fragile hope of peace? Hope. An equally great and dangerous thing. How do you hold a dove with hands so bruised and battered and scarred? Very carefully, he supposed, lest the gentle grip falter and hopes of peace fly forever away.

His own voice startled him back to the SitRep room. "Maire, Fionn... we should contact BI and let them know of our intentions to feverishly continue the peace talks." After wiping his face with a folded handkerchief from his front suit-jacket pocket, he continued. Looking to the radiation tags still on the couple, he winced. Though showing no signs of radiation sickness and the tags revealing no such condition, the mere presence of such devices on his beloved friends was yet another reminder of a jaded, horrible past. "I would suggest we remain here aboard the Liberation and continue with them, even if the Isle of Man is a suggested location. Obviously we can circle the island from up here, constant communication reliably enforced from the ground."

He wanted peace now more than any other time of his life. But not at the cost of even more lives, including their own.

Lighting a cigarette and looking around the room, RedHand looks at a map of the Isle of Man provided by BI communicate highlighted on one screen, various charts and maps on others, a live news feed from the BWO Relief Effort where its new national symbol used to be showing three fully-loaded C-130 Hercules parachuting their medical payloads into the disaster area.

Air Conditioning fans whirl almost silently from overhead, clearing the room of second-hand smoke, ash trays being emptied, ice water refills, shuffling of papers and soft voices from the plasma screens can be heard. Why is it now that the masterpiece of Claude DeBussy's Claire de Lune comes to O'Neill's mind?

He waits for Maire and Fionn's reactions.

OOC:It was something I felt had to be done. I am just glad that I was able to do it justice.

IC: After hearing the powerful words of Archbishop Byrne Fionn knew why ha had been assigned as the President's Confessor for so many years. He looked at his dear friend and his beloved wife . "Very well let this message be transmitted to all nations involved in this situation." Fionn stands , finishes his flask and begins.....

"My Friends and Honored Delegates I do not propose to say many words to-night. The time has come when speech rather than action is required. I cannot wish for conditions in which such a burden should fall upon me in which I should feel clearer than I do to-day as to where my duty lies. No man can say that the Governments involved could have done more to try to keep open the way for an honorable and equitable settlement of the dispute between British Imperialism and 32 County Irish Republic. Nor have we neglected any means of making it crystal clear to the British Imperialist Government that if they insisted on using force again in the manner in which they had used it in the past we were resolved to oppose them by force. Now that all the relevant documents are being made public we shall stand at the bar of history knowing that the responsibility for this terrible catastrophe lies on the shoulders of one man-, who has not hesitated to plunge the world into misery in order to serve his own senseless ambitions.

My Government fully recognizes the need for speed in the initiation of discussions and they share the apprehensions of the Prime Minister arising from the proximity of numerous mobilized armies inhabiting his nation. They would accordingly most strongly urge that all parties should undertake that during the negotiations no aggressive military movements should take place.

Yesterday, we took further steps towards the completion of our defensive preparations. This morning we ordered complete mobilization of the whole of the Royal Navy, Army and Royal Air Force in defensive roles for the Region of 32 County Irish Republic.. We have also taken a number of other measures, both at home and abroad, which the Honored Delegates will not perhaps expect me to specify in detail at this time. Briefly, they represent the final steps in accordance with prearranged plans. These last can be put into force rapidly, and are of such a nature that they can be deferred until conflict seems inevitable. Steps have also been taken to safeguard the position in regard to stocks of commodities of various kinds.
So much for the immediate present. Now we must look to the future. It is essential in the face of the tremendous task which confronts us, more especially in view of our past experiences in this matter, to organize our man-power this time upon as methodical, equitable and economical a basis as possible. Only by utilizing our combined talents can we hope to put a halt to these unprecedented attacks.

There is one other allusion which I should like to make before I end my speech, and that is to record my satisfaction, and the satisfaction of Her Majesty's Government, that throughout these last days of crisis Mr. Forsyth also has been doing his best to reach a solution.

It now only remains for us to set our teeth and to enter upon this struggle, which we ourselves earnestly endeavored to avoid, with determination to see it through to the end. We shall enter it with a clear conscience, with the support of the Region of 32 County Irish Republic, Allied Nations, and the moral approval of the greater part of the world. We have no quarrel with the British people, except that they have allowed themselves previously to be governed by a Genocidal Individual. As long as that Individual pursues the methods it has so persistently followed during the last month, there will be no peace in Europe. We shall merely pass from one crisis to another, and see one country after another attacked by methods which have now become familiar to us in their sickening technique. We are resolved that these methods must come to an end. If out of the struggle we again re-establish in the world the rules of good faith and the renunciation of force, why, then even the sacrifices that will be entailed upon us will find their fullest justification. "


He sits and looks to his friends for their response.

OOC: For those who may misintepret what I have said, this is stating that we want to move on witht he peace talks, that BI has been working hard to come to terms with us, and has been most helping in clearing up a number of cloudy areas we take as a positive signs and wish to continue the talsk in good faith. We are taking definsive measures as there is a madman out there who has no problems throwing nukes around! We blame him(unless we find anyone else in charge if such things) for the problems not the British Imperialism government nor her people they are merely suffering because of that one man. We feel that we need to work together to stop thiese attacks and return peace to our nations. :D

BWO Relief Operation: Operation Spelunker.
Location: Luudensfjord, 750 yards west from Ground Zero.
0 hours + 36 hours.

The voice of Captain Mick Caine came across the airwaves to where AB Piotr Noone sat hunched over the detonator.

"Once all personnel are clear, then you may proceed at will, AB Noone."

Able Bodied Seaman Pitor Noone fiddled with his radio set. The squeals and shrieks of interference just reminded him of the cries of pain from the irradiated livestock that now roamed the hillsides like zombies. It felt awkward and difficult to tune the apparatus with his gloved hands. He often felt the temptation to strip off the thick gauntlets whenever he need to make a fine adjustment, but the sight of all the cooked flesh that he had seen walking past him on his way here always compelled him to resist.

"Engineers - clear?"

"CLEAR!"

"Miners - clear?"

"CLEAR!"

"Demolitions - clear?"

A pause.

"Demolitions - are you clear?"

"CLEAR!"

He had the green light. He looked at the broken terrain of Luudensfjord, the bay directly west of New Tiger's Bay. The once glorious vista was now little but shattered slabs of jagged rocks and the stumps of blackened trees. Where the grass had not caught the thick grey dust that was omnipresent, it too was scorched and black and brittle. Enough.

He turned his attention back to the detonator. He glanced at the access tunnel to the bunker. Forty yards. Forty damn yards - that was all that separated them from the blast doors now. This last charge might do the trick to clear it. The irony struck him - in the midst of all this devastation they now seemed unable to affect the fallen rocks in the tunnel at all. Initially small charges had been placed at perceived weak spots, but they had proved ineffectual. Next had come satchel charges donated by the international community. They merely served to scatter more dust around the hillside. Now they felt certain that they had sufficient explosive power to clear the way. Now they would finally be able to open up the shelter. There had been no word from any of the three bunkers beneath the conference since they slammed their blast doors shut. A complete loss of contact had occured - not even the automated monitoring systems acknowledged their own existence. Noone gave a shiver when he speculated at what they might find down there, and whether he would get the short straw and have to be one of the first men in.

He set down the walkie-talkie and grasped the horizontal bar of the detonator in his hands. He took a deep breath, looked out at the hillside, and leant all his weight on the plunger.

There was a tiny delay.

Then the whole hillside seemed to burst into smoke and dust. Great plumes of shattered rock lanced up skywards, and cascades of loose gravel flowed like a river around the descending great masses of stone. The boulders crashed down into the waters of the bay, sending fountains of water into the maelstrom. A thick cloud of dust obscured his vision.

He sheltered his face in the crook of his arm as a hail of small stones and dirt fell upon him. He waited till the echoing sound died away before he raised his head again. Wiping at his faceplate he saw the whole territory changed. Where once stood the noble promontory poking out into the waters there was now just a jumble of fractured granite, little more than an oversized breakwater. He could just make out a geometric shape visible at the centre. It appeared that this new fangled plastic explosive that had come in on one of the relief shipments was somewhat more potent than the blasting powder they were used to handling. Noone thought for a moment that he should have spent less time last night worrying if it would be strong enough, and more time reading the instructions that had come with it.

He looked up for a reaction from his CO. Captain Caine just shook his head in feigned disgust and knowingly quoted across the radiowaves: "You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off..."

To:32 county Irish Republic
From:British Commonwealth


The goverment of British Commonwealth has recently recived Infomation.That Your armed forces Plan to invade British Imperialism. We would advise against such rash action.

The recent Attacks (and the one on BWO) were by rogue forces in the Atlantic still loyal to lord stewert. All armed forces in BI have been rounded up and are Prisnors of war. Special forces are currently In BI searchoing for Lord Stewert.

As you can see the only armed forces In BI of any sort are British Commonwealthsown. Most of which are deployed doing aid work.

If you attack you only be attacking Innocent civillians and British Commonwealths own forces which i will have to retaliate for.

Please reconside before you turn this region once again down the path of death and destruction.

Yours Faithfully
Stuart Nolan
Prime Minister British Commonwealth.

To:32 county Irish Republic
From:British Commonwealth


The goverment of British Commonwealth has recently recived Infomation.That Your armed forces Plan to invade British Imperialism. We would advise against such rash action.

The recent Attacks (and the one on BWO) were by rogue forces in the Atlantic still loyal to lord stewert. All armed forces in BI have been rounded up and are Prisnors of war. Special forces are currently In BI searchoing for Lord Stewert.

As you can see the only armed forces In BI of any sort are British Commonwealthsown. Most of which are deployed doing aid work.

If you attack you only be attacking Innocent civillians and British Commonwealths own forces which i will have to retaliate for.

Please reconside before you turn this region once again down the path of death and destruction.

Yours Faithfully
Stuart Nolan
Prime Minister British Commonwealth.

To:British Commonwealth
From :32 County Irish Republic

Pray Sir from whence do you get such an idea. We wish to return to the peace talks so rudely interupted. We see a light of hope that this darkness can indeed end without further resort to conflict. We do feel the need for the nations involved to work together to put an end to those who are perpetrating acts of terrorism as was done at the peace conference and even within the nation of British Imperialism. Thus these acts do affect all of us and thus we have an interest in the end of such.

If the defensive preperations of the 32 County Irish republic have increased tensions we appologise but feel that such is needed in the case of any attacks by the rogue forces. It is in no way meant to be signs of an imminet invasion. All mobilizations are for civil defense , civil engineering , Biochemical/Hazardous materials work and an increased early warning /deterant system. We wish to avoid a similar attack as was done on BWO.
It is hoped that in this time when peace can be felt in even the most hardened breast that these words can calm any fears that might be had. We look forward to working with your nation and all others to help this come to an end so that all may continue to grow and thrive in peace.

Fionn MacDougal
President Holy Republic of Danu

OOC:edited for spelling errors(some of them) :)

Currently the only forces of any sort In the Country are Forces of British Commonwealth.
As you can see the only armed forces In BI of any sort are British Commonwealthsown. Most of which are deployed doing aid work.


Statement issued by the BWO International Aid Committee:

The continual and repeated lack of acknowledgement by the British Commonwealth of the existence of the Vysean armed forces which are based in London leads us to call into doubt the efficiency of their relief operations. We are forced to ask ourselves how comprehensive such aid programmes can be when British Commonwealth military intelligence is so clearly lacking.

Need we remind the British Commonwealth Expeditionary Force that the forces deployed by Vyse, King Of Rogues were the ones who were actually prepared to risk their own lives and limbs to assure the safety of British Imperialism civilians during the height of the fighting on the Mainland? Until such time as we start seeing more details of the British Commonwealth relief operations we will continue to quietly voice our doubts.

It should also be pointed out to the British Commonwealth Expeditionary Force that recent landings along the Eastern seaboard of the British Imperialism mainland have been carried out openly by the armed forces of Murderous Tendencies. They are believed to be operating under a flag of truce and seek to expedite the peaceful relocation of Vysean forces. It is hoped that the apparent ignorance of such deployments displayed by the British Commonwealth forces shall lead to no engagements with such a force operating in the name of humanitarian concern.

BWO Relief Operation: Operation Spelunker.
Location: Luudensfjord, 750 yards west from Ground Zero.
0 hours + 40 hours.

It is announced that the relief operation have managed to open up the first of the three bunkers beneath the ruins of the New Tiger's Bay conference facilities. No survivors were found within the airfield bomb shelter. It is believed that a malfunction occurred in the atmospheric re-processing unit, leading to asphyxiation of all those inside. Search teams reported widespread damage within the subterranean chambers. Many systems had failed, apparently at the moment of detonation. Water had flooded the tunnel system to a depth of fifteen inches and all power had been lost. The extraction of corpses is expected to begin shortly. An estimate of between one hundred and two hundred casualties has been issued. When asked what hopes were held for the security of the remaining two bunkers no official comment was given. There has been no contact with any of the shelters since zero hour. Engineers and speleologists are believed to be examining the long access tunnels which connect between the bunkers as we speak. No more information is forthcoming, but sources indicate that these passageways themselves are also obstructed by ceiling collapses and rockfalls.

IC: RedHand puts out his cigarette and takes a deep breath. His friend Fionn had a way with words, too, it seemed, for he was able to just about sum up O'Neill's own ideas.

He looks again to the various screens surrounding the room, tactical readouts of the Isle of Man, BI, 32 County Irish Republic, continuing BWO relief efforts, Psychik and Danu, intelligence on Whispering Voices' continued military operations. In a time when this was all a struggle for peace, it sure looked like war.

FRoNIF forces continued to circle the entire 32 CIR, incredible air power being their number one government expenditure for the past year. The Free Republic of Northern Irish Freedom was sealed up tighter than a bank vault, all military forces on full alert, all eyes and ears waiting for any signs of trouble. Reports that a 32 County Irish Republic Missile Shield had been activated were highly scrutinized by the military experts sharing the SitRep room with Maire, Fionn, and RedHand.

Why did this all suddenly feel like a boardgame of Risk instead of real life? RedHand looks over his own report while listening to Fionn's second statement, not surprised BC was claiming counter-intelligence revelation of military action against BI. Knowing his own nation was only involved in three strategic areas, being BWO Relief, 32 CIR aerial protection/surveillance, and the top secret classified location of the Liberation and her squadron of escort aircraft, he thought little of the actual claim and more of the damage such a statement could ultimately mean to the quest for peace.

After Fionn's statement, he addresses BI without even looking up from his folder of confidential intelligence reports, disregarding BC altogether.

"If indeed there are forces landing in BI, or planning to attack BI, they are not, I repeat NOT from any nation within 32 County Irish Republic. Our ultimate goal from now until realization is that of unconditional peace and apprehension/conviction/termination of the individual or individuals responsible for the nuclear missile attack on BWO. We do not forget that our own nations have suffered throughout this entire war at the hands of BI, or namely those responsible for its actions, whoever that may or may not be. If these are indeed truthful reports of military action against the British isle, the Free Republic of Northern Irish Freedom, the Holy Republic of Danu, and the People's Republic of Psychik tv provide the voices of their respective leaders in unison saying 'We are not responsible for these actions, these claims of action, or even the notion that we are somehow involved in these supposed activities. Our goal is that of unconditional peace and apprehension/conviction/termination of the individual or individuals responsible for the attack on BWO.' Hear us out now before all hopes of such peace are lost to the unconfirmed reports of 32 CIR military plotting against BI."

After finishing he looks up to the screen showing the tactical analysis of BI, waiting for any response, be it obvious or clandestine.

OOC: Edited for BC/BI errors. All this BS is confusing!

"Filthy Pakis! Go home!" shrieked the curly-haired, tracksuited ginger teenager as he raised a fist, rock ready to throw ... and he was recorded. Light bounced into the sensors of Ibn-Ahmed's visor, and from there data was sent to the closest command vehicle, a VAB mounting a 25mm Dragar cannon. There it was bounced into space, and received and recorded by one of the many ARES satellites - some marked as such, most simply under the names of holding companies, each with a different physical design - and down, down through the eternal blizzard that covered Whispering Voices and into the huge mountain complex that was the headquarters of the Ministry of Defence.

The signal travelled several of many specially constructed conduits, going deep - almost five miles before entering the base itself, through layers of granite and basalt. There, photons turned to electrons and electrons were encoded by huge banks of computer systems into proteins ... and the huge organic computer that was ARES performed calculations using deoxyribonucleic acid strands. Millions of times faster than a conventional computer, proteins and amylases combined and split, tiny electric pulses were sent via the flooding of cellular boundaries with catalysts. Results were recorded, and returned, and converted back into photons ... and sent up the fibreoptic conduits, back into space ... and bounced from the ARES satellite, down into the VAB, and into Ibn-Ahmed's visor, becoming a warning marking on his viewscreen, coloured light blue to indicate minimal threat.

Before the Liverpuddlian youth had even finished hefting the rock into the air, seven assault rifles were trained on his head with pinpoint accuracy - hopefully the only result he'd ever see of the frightning effectiveness of the Murderous Tendencies military, based faithfully on that of their liege-masters. Had he been carrying a weapon considered a threat, he would doubtless have been dead. As it was ...

"Put down the rock, place your hands upon your head, turn, and kneel." The voice was definitely Arabian, foreign in the cold air. The youth dropped the stone, and was too busy pissing himself at the sight of the gun barrels - like sightless, staring, hungry eyes: shark eyes, but black - to care that it crunched down on his foot with a 'crack'. He turned, and kneeled. The column of troops marched further into Liverpool.

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The arm of the military sent down from Norfolk to London hoves within view of the forces of Vyse with a speed that would be frightning if they weren't moving to reinforce the forces trying to fortify London. It's led down the M1 by fast jeeps, mine detectors relaying information back. Overhead, Comanches nose about the land, and any potential ambush positions - information relayed to ARES and combined with satellite data to confirm the one thing already suspected: any renegade assets near the
capital are either well underground or concealed beneath dense metal roofs. Above them, flights of Mig-39s and Flankers scout - not the best choices for surveillance, but every little part adding to the DNA-solved jigsaw puzzle that was the war theatre. The Leclerc tanks that followed the minesweepers were fast, hitting over seventy, backed up by assorted configurations of VABs. Behind them, covered by more Leclercs, rolled souped-up chassis bearing MLRS and Crusader artillery.

We come in peace, the display said, but you can have your peace alive or dead.

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¬¬¬¬Transmission from the Qadim¬¬¬¬
¬¬Murderous Tendencies Theatre Command¬¬

Peacekeeping forces have crossed from Newcastle to Liverpool. Throughout designated cities, aid and medical supplies are being provided. So far, no sign of renegade troops have been discovered. Military airbases are being acquired, swept clear of mines, and being converted as we speak. Once they are secured, surveillance planes will begin gridsweeping the country for dissidents.

The Sixth Arm of the Nineteenth Expedition is expected to make contact with Vyse forces soon to aid in their fortifaction of London.

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OOC: Numbers now revealled to Vyse of the Sixth Arm are as follows: 100 Migs, 100 Flankers, 250 Crusaders, 250 MLRS, 500 Leclercs, 1500 assorted VABs (fast, well-armoured vehicles) and 500 air-defence VABs, 200 Comanches, 500 Apache AH-64D Longbows, 500 Blackhawks, and 10 'Sherwood' Arrow 2 platforms (the last going very slow).

Military strength is being calculated via the Newer England's Military Calculator, converted to take into account smaller numbers of a more elite, British-style army and different unit configurations.


Edit: my first post - again! And I have one earlier in this same thread. Weirdness.

Currently the only forces of any sort In the Country are Forces of British Commonwealth.
As you can see the only armed forces In BI of any sort are British Commonwealthsown. Most of which are deployed doing aid work.


Statement issued by the BWO International Aid Committee:

The continual and repeated lack of acknowledgement by the British Commonwealth of the existence of the Vysean armed forces which are based in London leads us to call into doubt the efficiency of their relief operations. We are forced to ask ourselves how comprehensive such aid programmes can be when British Commonwealth military intelligence is so clearly lacking.

Need we remind the British Commonwealth Expeditionary Force that the forces deployed by Vyse, King Of Rogues were the ones who were actually prepared to risk their own lives and limbs to assure the safety of British Imperialism civilians during the height of the fighting on the Mainland? Until such time as we start seeing more details of the British Commonwealth relief operations we will continue to quietly voice our doubts.

It should also be pointed out to the British Commonwealth Expeditionary Force that recent landings along the Eastern seaboard of the British Imperialism mainland have been carried out openly by the armed forces of Murderous Tendencies. They are believed to be operating under a flag of truce and seek to expedite the peaceful relocation of Vysean forces. It is hoped that the apparent ignorance of such deployments displayed by the British Commonwealth forces shall lead to no engagements with such a force operating in the name of humanitarian concern.

19:00EST

"General what sort of game are you playing over there?" The prime minister's voice showed anger the prime minister normally never showed. it was so loud That Everyone outside general stevens office could here him.
The weblink showed the Prime minster's anger.

" I have to find out that you've been faffing about, in the north of the country on some wild goose chase for Lord stewert, when you know most of the survivors are in the south"

General Stevens showed no emotion.

"you've only got 3/4 of your Refugee camps up you said they'd all be up by now"Nolan went on.

" And worst of all Our 'Allies' find out!!, you know how much of a fool this makes in front of them!! we'll be the laughing stock if you don't buck up your ideas." Nolan was on a roll

"But sir, Lord stewert is vital to our..." Stevens Interrupted in His usual calm voice looking at the weblink projected on the wall

"NO BUTS GENERAL!," Nolan almost yelled

" I DON'T CARE IF HE KNOWS THE SECRET TO EVER-LASTING LIFE!, The British Imperialism Civillians come first, Nolan out."

The link was severed leaving the BC army's logo Projected on the wall

Stevens leaned back on his desk in what had been the mayor of manchesters office. when there was tap on the door.

"Enter" Stevens said

Brigadier winslow entered and saluted

"You wanted to see me?" Winslow a tall man in His late Thirties enquired in full BDU's.

"yes" stevens Said

"Noland wants all the aid camps up, so we get them up and filled i want you to get the 4th mechanised Brigade to continue aid work and to find out what those Murderous Tendencies forces are after, if they fire you have permission to engage"

stevens stood up and walked to the window serveying the once proud city centre of manchester.

"And the search for Stewert?" Winslow asked

"Special forces can deal with it, But as far as you and i know they are hunting for maurauders" stevens said still looking at the window

He turned and looked at his old friend who he had known him for years.

"stewert is needed," stevens said coldly

"you feeling alright? "

Winslow said puzzled by stevens recent behavior

Stevens smiled suddenly and marched back to his desk

"scotch?" he said

" No thanks" winslow repliled, getting up And saluteing.

"I really must be getting back, we'll start on those camps tommorow" winslow heading for the door which closed with a click.

Stevens sat down, poured a scotch looked at it then threw across the room.

I'm gonna get you stewert if its the last thing i do
He thought

BWO Relief Operation: Operation Spelunker.
Location: Luudensfjord, 750 yards west from Ground Zero.
0 hours + 46 hours.

As he placed the stethoscope against the dull grey-painted metal of the internal blast door the mechanical engineer accompanying the recovery team thought he heard a brief snatch of music from somewhere. He ignored the obvious mistake and settled his attention on trying to determine whether any survivors still persisted in the bunker beneath the New Tiger's Bay security centre.

There was a dull sporadic clicking and a faint hint of the motion of what could be plastic. Then all went silent. He repositioned the end of the stethoscope against the cold metal, this time higher up. Again came that clicking - could it be a relay device still operating? maybe a drip of water against metal? No, he wasn't convinced. It came again, and then resolved into a clear staccato rhythm. One. Two. Three. Four. Five. Six.

Voices suddenly tore through his head:
- "S-Y-Z-Y-G-Y - syzygy, on a triple word score. That's a hundred and two points to me, because I also made 'zone' on the horizontal. Your go, Captain, I believe."
- "Damn fluke, if you ask me, never too comfortable with this game, Ms. Chinaski. Much happier with a good game of chess myself - you can see the whole board, and people don't hide their darned pieces in their hands."

He stripped the stethoscope away from his battered ears and looked up at the torchlit faces that stood over him - "We've got survivors... tell control and get us a drilling team down here now."

Edited: for reasons of aesthetics & because I had messed up the dateline.

"Filthy Pakis! Go home!" shrieked the curly-haired, tracksuited ginger teenager as he raised a fist, rock ready to throw ... and he was recorded. Light bounced into the sensors of Ibn-Ahmed's visor, and from there data was sent to the closest command vehicle, a VAB mounting a 25mm Dragar cannon. There it was bounced into space, and received and recorded by one of the many ARES satellites - some marked as such, most simply under the names of holding companies, each with a different physical design - and down, down through the eternal blizzard that covered Whispering Voices and into the huge mountain complex that was the headquarters of the Ministry of Defence.

The signal travelled several of many specially constructed conduits, going deep - almost five miles before entering the base itself, through layers of granite and basalt. There, photons turned to electrons and electrons were encoded by huge banks of computer systems into proteins ... and the huge organic computer that was ARES performed calculations using deoxyribonucleic acid strands. Millions of times faster than a conventional computer, proteins and amylases combined and split, tiny electric pulses were sent via the flooding of cellular boundaries with catalysts. Results were recorded, and returned, and converted back into photons ... and sent up the fibreoptic conduits, back into space ... and bounced from the ARES satellite, down into the VAB, and into Ibn-Ahmed's visor, becoming a warning marking on his viewscreen, coloured light blue to indicate minimal threat.

Before the Liverpuddlian youth had even finished hefting the rock into the air, seven assault rifles were trained on his head with pinpoint accuracy - hopefully the only result he'd ever see of the frightning effectiveness of the Murderous Tendencies military, based faithfully on that of their liege-masters. Had he been carrying a weapon considered a threat, he would doubtless have been dead. As it was ...

"Put down the rock, place your hands upon your head, turn, and kneel." The voice was definitely Arabian, foreign in the cold air. The youth dropped the stone, and was too busy pissing himself at the sight of the gun barrels - like sightless, staring, hungry eyes: shark eyes, but black - to care that it crunched down on his foot with a 'crack'. He turned, and kneeled. The column of troops marched further into Liverpool.

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The arm of the military sent down from Norfolk to London hoves within view of the forces of Vyse with a speed that would be frightning if they weren't moving to reinforce the forces trying to fortify London. It's led down the M1 by fast jeeps, mine detectors relaying information back. Overhead, Comanches nose about the land, and any potential ambush positions - information relayed to ARES and combined with satellite data to confirm the one thing already suspected: any renegade assets near the
capital are either well underground or concealed beneath dense metal roofs. Above them, flights of Mig-39s and Flankers scout - not the best choices for surveillance, but every little part adding to the DNA-solved jigsaw puzzle that was the war theatre. The Leclerc tanks that followed the minesweepers were fast, hitting over seventy, backed up by assorted configurations of VABs. Behind them, covered by more Leclercs, rolled souped-up chassis bearing MLRS and Crusader artillery.

We come in peace, the display said, but you can have your peace alive or dead.

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¬¬¬¬Transmission from the Qadim¬¬¬¬
¬¬Murderous Tendencies Theatre Command¬¬

Peacekeeping forces have crossed from Newcastle to Liverpool. Throughout designated cities, aid and medical supplies are being provided. So far, no sign of renegade troops have been discovered. Military airbases are being acquired, swept clear of mines, and being converted as we speak. Once they are secured, surveillance planes will begin gridsweeping the country for dissidents.

The Sixth Arm of the Nineteenth Expedition is expected to make contact with Vyse forces soon to aid in their fortifaction of London.

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OOC: Numbers now revealled to Vyse of the Sixth Arm are as follows: 100 Migs, 100 Flankers, 250 Crusaders, 250 MLRS, 500 Leclercs, 1500 assorted VABs (fast, well-armoured vehicles) and 500 air-defence VABs, 200 Comanches, 500 Apache AH-64D Longbows, 500 Blackhawks, and 10 'Sherwood' Arrow 2 platforms (the last going very slow).

Military strength is being calculated via the Newer England's Military Calculator, converted to take into account smaller numbers of a more elite, British-style army and different unit configurations.


Edit: my first post - again! And I have one earlier in this same thread. Weirdness.

To:Murderous Tendancies

British Commonwealth holds everything from Manchester Northwards, we have orders to move south To enquire as to your objectives.
All Help in this matter is apprciated.


General Stevens
3rd Mechanised divsion
British Commonwealth

OOC:

Reading some of the what is God Modding, in what is god modding thread elsewhere I'm clarifying some numbers, based on being a Police State, most all into Defence and taking from R/L Israel ways, I'm Putting down this:

The Lavallin Official armed forces is 10 pct of the population of 700+ million.. That would put it at around 70 Million in Army, plus Navy and Airforces. Thats the Standing armed numbers

I Figure a Standing army of about 50 Million rest are In airforce, navy (including special marines)


As I get bigger that goes up.. I hit 1 billion it will be 100 million.

However Taking From Israel, all able bodied Males and Females serve in the armed forces a mandatory term, and are the RESERVES that can be called on, They have at home Light arms, This is a NRA loving Nation in its Issues, so people have guns.

All areas have Home defense Depots where heavier arms are available.. in Deep Nuclear proof bunkers.

Also must consider the large numbers of Police in this nation, another "reserve" aspect.


So I think I'm within fair play to consider a few hundread millions available as armed resistance at Home.

Also it is conceivable that Raptors could be trained... given clonning, genetics etc advancing from what we already can do... Perhaps I went overboard on the Identitfying irish from non-irish, but its still possiable to with genetics, including doing things to the Human troops a genetic way could be done so raptors would know Lavallin troops (and people) from all others... Lavallins at birth being given a gene that secrets a pheome?


Can we agree such can be valid?


Note this is to those that Accused me of God modding

OOC:
Perhaps I went overboard on the Identitfying irish from non-irish, but its still possiable to with genetics, including doing things to the Human troops a genetic way could be done so raptors would know Lavallin troops (and people) from all others... Lavallins at birth being given a gene that secrets a pheome?


OOC: This was in essence the only reasonable explanation that the representative for BWO could come up with at the conference - genetic alteration of the populace of Lavallin before birth to identify them as such. Having such conditions more clearly laid out also allows others reasonable room for manoeuvre when it comes to arguable defensive measures (...I wasn't entirely joking when I mentioned aerosol cans full of raptor repellent upthread. All someone needs to do is get a sample off a Lavallin citizen..) I look forward to your continued participation in the thread.

Lightheartedly: Personally, I also consider that modelling one's military and long term plans for the survival of your population on Israel to be a much wiser move than modelling them on wartime Japan...

[quote="Murderous Tendencies"]"Filthy Pakis! Go home!" shrieked the curly-haired, tracksuited ginger teenager as he raised a fist, rock ready to throw ... and he was recorded. Light bounced into the sensors of Ibn-Ahmed's visor, and from there data was sent to the closest command vehicle, a VAB mounting a 25mm Dragar cannon. There it was bounced into space, and received and recorded by one of the many ARES satellites - some marked as such, most simply under the names of holding companies, each with a different physical design - and down, down through the eternal blizzard that covered Whispering Voices and into the huge mountain complex that was the headquarters of the Ministry of Defence.

The signal travelled several of many specially constructed conduits, going deep - almost five miles before entering the base itself, through layers of granite and basalt. There, photons turned to electrons and electrons were encoded by huge banks of computer systems into proteins ... and the huge organic computer that was ARES performed calculations using deoxyribonucleic acid strands. Millions of times faster than a conventional computer, proteins and amylases combined and split, tiny electric pulses were sent via the flooding of cellular boundaries with catalysts. Results were recorded, and returned, and converted back into photons ... and sent up the fibreoptic conduits, back into space ... and bounced from the ARES satellite, down into the VAB, and into Ibn-Ahmed's visor, becoming a warning marking on his viewscreen, coloured light blue to indicate minimal threat.

Before the Liverpuddlian youth had even finished hefting the rock into the air, seven assault rifles were trained on his head with pinpoint accuracy - hopefully the only result he'd ever see of the frightning effectiveness of the Murderous Tendencies military, based faithfully on that of their liege-masters. Had he been carrying a weapon considered a threat, he would doubtless have been dead. As it was ...

"Put down the rock, place your hands upon your head, turn, and kneel." The voice was definitely Arabian, foreign in the cold air. The youth dropped the stone, and was too busy pissing himself at the sight of the gun barrels - like sightless, staring, hungry eyes: shark eyes, but black - to care that it crunched down on his foot with a 'crack'. He turned, and kneeled. The column of troops marched further into Liverpool.

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The arm of the military sent down from Norfolk to London hoves within view of the forces of Vyse with a speed that would be frightning if they weren't moving to reinforce the forces trying to fortify London. It's led down the M1 by fast jeeps, mine detectors relaying information back. Overhead, Comanches nose about the land, and any potential ambush positions - information relayed to ARES and combined with satellite data to confirm the one thing already suspected: any renegade assets near the
capital are either well underground or concealed beneath dense metal roofs. Above them, flights of Mig-39s and Flankers scout - not the best choices for surveillance, but every little part adding to the DNA-solved jigsaw puzzle that was the war theatre. The Leclerc tanks that followed the minesweepers were fast, hitting over seventy, backed up by assorted configurations of VABs. Behind them, covered by more Leclercs, rolled souped-up chassis bearing MLRS and Crusader artillery.

We come in peace, the display said, but you can have your peace alive or dead.

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¬¬¬¬Transmission from the Qadim¬¬¬¬
¬¬Murderous Tendencies Theatre Command¬¬

Peacekeeping forces have crossed from Newcastle to Liverpool. Throughout designated cities, aid and medical supplies are being provided. So far, no sign of renegade troops have been discovered. Military airbases are being acquired, swept clear of mines, and being converted as we speak. Once they are secured, surveillance planes will begin gridsweeping the country for dissidents.

The Sixth Arm of the Nineteenth Expedition is expected to make contact with Vyse forces soon to aid in their fortifaction of London.

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OOC: Numbers now revealled to Vyse of the Sixth Arm are as follows: 100 Migs, 100 Flankers, 250 Crusaders, 250 MLRS, 500 Leclercs, 1500 assorted VABs (fast, well-armoured vehicles) and 500 air-defence VABs, 200 Comanches, 500 Apache AH-64D Longbows, 500 Blackhawks, and 10 'Sherwood' Arrow 2 platforms (the last going very slow).

As the Sixth Arm approaches London, a large patrol of Vysean troops march out of the defenses. The two companies pass right by the MT soldiers. The patrolmen look stressed, as well as very tired. They've been in BI for weeks now, and have been fighting for most of that time. Plus, the nuclear attack on BWO has everyone spooked. The troopers have their guns out, ready for yet another ambush. The Major in charge of the patrol sees the Sixth Arm, and runs over. "If you wouldn't mind, you should probably have your commander head into town to talk with the General." Then, the Major jogged to catch up with his patrol.

OOC: This was in essence the only reasonable explanation that the representative for BWO could come up with at the conference - genetic alteration of the populace of Lavallin before birth to identify them as such. Having such conditions more clearly laid out also allows others reasonable room for manoeuvre when it comes to arguable defensive measures (...I wasn't entirely joking when I mentioned aerosol cans full of raptor repellent upthread. All someone needs to do is get a sample off a Lavallin citizen..) I look forward to your continued participation in the thread.

Lightheartedly: Personally, I also consider that modelling one's military and long term plans for the survival of your population on Israel to be a much wiser move than modelling them on wartime Japan...

Still doing OOC thinkings..


Of course... once you deployed such I'd get hands on it and counteract it in some way, through I was thinking of ability to do genetic changes even with adults after all theres research in finding ways to re grow retinas and ear hair cells (inner ear) after damage, so some injection that would even in an adult create some genetic change, through with raptors assuming fast growth the next generation could simply be enhanced to identify the aerosel and resist it... hummm mmm... Of course theres those darn UN laws...

:twisted:

Ya know... could get such an aerosel sample and gene enhance raptors into going into a frenzy if detect some part of it used on them... overcoming any repellent effect :twisted: :twisted:

You do know Spyings part of game... :P As soon as you created it I might steal it... especially for a nation thats easy to infilterate... now Police states with barcodes, cameras everywhere even in peoples bathrooms... :P be harder to spy on... :lol:

Out in the Atlantic, the lavallin forces and any ( I assume some came and worked under Lavallin supervision) others there to investigate the Nuclear launch finish up, they are all off the derilict Cruiser, The forces pull away to a safe distance and From Undersea, a Lavallin attack Sub fires a torpedo spread, which impacts... the offending derelict Cruiser slowly sinks out of sight as all Leave to go over all the information gathered..


In the North Sea another damaged Cruiser meets the same fate as Lavallins Forces continue searching for Unsurrendered BI Naval forces and removing derelict warships now considered a world security risk after preliminary info indicates that persons unknown may have made use of that one derelict cruiser, and if so Lavallin considers all derelicts now a Nationa Security risk and World risk if presumed terrorists get hands on any more weapons..


In the Irish sea, there is a strange sonar reading, however being in shallow enough waters a Mini Sub investigates discovers it is an apparently 1700 or Early 1800's shipwreck... Archologists and treasure hunters in lavallin are excited and demand they be allowed access to it..

In the Irish sea, there is a strange sonar reading, however being in shallow enough waters a Mini Sub investigates discovers it is an apparently 1700 or Early 1800's shipwreck... Archologists and treasure hunters in lavallin are excited and demand they be allowed access to it..

BWO Geographical & Anthropological Society Responds:

According to our charts we believe that this wreck may be located in international waters, as such we consider that the premature disturbance of such a valuable historical relic by a nation famed more for its military spending than its focus on education funding would be unwise. If such an expedition to recover the vessel is mounted we would welcome an invitation to participate and the opportunity to share our own expertise.
We also suspect that such a wreck should be considered a historical site, and so would fall under the ambit of the UN resolution to 'Protect Historical Sites'. Any disturbance of the wreck without the attendance of independent observers could be met with by harsh criticism.

Our recent investigations in the shallow waters off our own south-coast of a potential wreck drew blanks, but were interesting and worthwhile from a purely theoretical point of view. One minor artifact was recovered from coastal waters, but was in a very bad state of repair and was deemed unsuitable for public display in its current condition.

In other news, it was announced at today's meeting that Doctor Mary Challenger, grand-niece of the famous Professor, will be leaving shortly to begin work examining the courting rituals of the indigineous tribes that live on the banks of the White Nile in the Sudan, and the J.P Higgins-Botham will be once again trying to prove that the island of BWO was settled by African traders in the fifth century. He will be travelling to South Africa shortly, and once there will begin reproducing a historically accurate dhow with which he hopes to restage their epic journeys.

Out in the Atlantic, the lavallin forces and any ( I assume some came and worked under Lavallin supervision) others there to investigate the Nuclear launch finish up, they are all off the derilict Cruiser, The forces pull away to a safe distance and From Undersea, a Lavallin attack Sub fires a torpedo spread, which impacts... the offending derelict Cruiser slowly sinks out of sight as all Leave to go over all the information gathered..

A briefing chamber in the Body of Delegate's assembly halls:


"So, let me get this straight. Lavallin forces found an AEGIS missile cruiser which lay close to the projected launching point of the 4 Tomahawk missiles. It was derelict, with traces of recent use of the launch tubes, and two unidentified corpses on board, yes?"

A polite cough is issued before the serving chair's secretary affirms, "Yes, Mr. Hardy-Boyce, that appears to be the case."

"...and then the blighters went and sank it, without consulting us - the nation which was nuked by it? Without inviting our investigators to even come and have a quick butcher's at it? Without even asking us if there was anything we wanted checked out before they gave it a burial at sea? They didn't actually ask us if we wanted to send a party, instead assumed that our non-attendance due to the fact that we were somewhat over-stretched indicated a complete lack of interest in the evidence? That is the case, yes?"

"Sir, so it appears to be."

"So, anything which might help us make sense of things is now safely consigned to Davy Jones's Locker, then? Close on 8,000 dead around New Tiger's Bay and now this. As if there wasn't evidence enough in recent events, something damn fishy is going on here, and someone doesn't want us to get to the bottom of all this," broods the de facto head of state as he strokes at his long mutton-chop sideboards.

OOC:There was a full crew on board the AEGIS. They were all deceased. Some additional dead in civilian cloathing were there as well.

OOC:There was a full crew on board the AEGIS. They were all deceased. Some additional dead in civilian cloathing were there as well.

OOC: The impressively mustachioed Franklin W. Hardy-Boyce suspected/was informed of this fact, but did not see fit to mention the dead naval crewmembers. They were to be expected in the hulk of a vessel which was presumably crippled during the conflict. The reports of individuals in civilian clothes slumped over the controls of the Tomahawk launching systems with 'their faces twisted in suffering, but no marks of injury upon their bodies' were not.



Edited: because I was unable to spell 'mustachioed'. What kind of Mickey Mouse education did I have, where they didn't teach me such important life-skills as that?

BWO Geographical & Anthropological Society Responds:

According to our charts we believe that this wreck may be located in international waters, as such we consider that the premature disturbance of such a valuable historical relic by a nation famed more for its military spending than its focus on education funding would be unwise. If such an expedition to recover the vessel is mounted we would welcome an invitation to participate and the opportunity to share our own expertise.
We also suspect that such a wreck should be considered a historical site, and so would fall under the ambit of the UN resolution to 'Protect Historical Sites'. Any disturbance of the wreck without the attendance of independent observers could be met with by harsh criticism.



A missive is sent by the Lavallin Dept of Antiquitys
which states it was found in shallow waters off 32 CIr within the 32 Cir territorial waters, irregardless of the question on if it is in international waters, there are no plans at present to explore it, due to budget restraints however your welcome to fill out applications to be included in any future possiable exploration of it.

Please Fill out Form A , in triplicate...Form A2 in triplicate, Form b1 In triplicate, Waiver of Liability in quadraplite, Form c1 in duplicate, The agreement to fund the whole exploration if one is mounted in triplicate, and include with THAT one a 1 million Lavalan Security deposit, unrefundable in advance towards such costs, Also Sign in triplicate Form U4-K which you assume any liability for any descendants who may sue for disturbing their ancestors remains.. And Finally fill out Forms E,F,G,L,M,N,O all in triplicate!

Out in the Atlantic, the lavallin forces and any ( I assume some came and worked under Lavallin supervision) others there to investigate the Nuclear launch finish up, they are all off the derilict Cruiser, The forces pull away to a safe distance and From Undersea, a Lavallin attack Sub fires a torpedo spread, which impacts... the offending derelict Cruiser slowly sinks out of sight as all Leave to go over all the information gathered..

A briefing chamber in the Body of Delegate's assembly halls:


"So, let me get this straight. Lavallin forces found an AEGIS missile cruiser which lay close to the projected launching point of the 4 Tomahawk missiles. It was derelict, with traces of recent use of the launch tubes, and two unidentified corpses on board, yes?"

A polite cough is issued before the serving chair's secretary affirms, "Yes, Mr. Hardy-Boyce, that appears to be the case."

"...and then the blighters went and sank it, without consulting us - the nation which was nuked by it? Without inviting our investigators to even come and have a quick butcher's at it? Without even asking us if there was anything we wanted checked out before they gave it a burial at sea? They didn't actually ask us if we wanted to send a party, instead assumed that our non-attendance due to the fact that we were somewhat over-stretched indicated a complete lack of interest in the evidence? That is the case, yes?"

"Sir, so it appears to be."

"So, anything which might help us make sense of things is now safely consigned to Davy Jones's Locker, then? Close on 8,000 dead around New Tiger's Bay and now this. As if there wasn't evidence enough in recent events, something damn fishy is going on here, and someone doesn't want us to get to the bottom of all this," broods the de facto head of state as he strokes at his long mutton-chop sideboards.



OOC: Check back, a post invites ALL involved into investigating it under Lavallins supervision, and Post "assumes all had who were and they and lavallins after leaving it it was then sunk so if you were invited, if you didn't come ...well... Lavallin has pictures, chem samples, other things you can get copys of if missed coming.. Or perhaps its left hand not knowing what right was doing and you did have an investigating team come as I invited..

:wink:

OOC: The number eventually placed on a 'viable' military was 5% of the population. Of course, bear in mind in no way, shape or form does that mean 5% of the population can be given guns and assumed to be highly trained soldiers. Support staff - especially for the navy and airforce - take up huge numbers. It's true that with compulsory military service you could arm everyone between 15 and 40 with a gun and get most of your population to be soldiers that way - but doing that for more than a few days would cause an irreversable descent into economic ruin. Again, TNE's military calculator is highly recommended.

And raptors that are trained to ignore a certain symbol, or pheromone - yes, those are certainly possible. Although if it is based on training then the 'current' raptors would (assuming adulthood for size) be unable to learn the new training, and if its based on DNA you'd have to breed more - either way there'd be both a research delay and then a long implementation delay of counter technology. Of course, the person researching raptors would also have massively long delays as they researched just why the raptors did what they did.


IC:
<Transmission to Vyse>
The Sixth Arm of the Nineteenth are apparently travelling through London to meet with the Vyse general at this minute.

<Transmission to British Commonwealth>
The Murderous Tendencies taskforce is here to round up renegade British Imperialism forces and to aid the local civilian populace. You are offered every assistance in your humanitarian efforts.

OOC: Check back, a post invites ALL involved into investigating it under Lavallins supervision, and Post "assumes all had who were and they and lavallins after leaving it it was then sunk so if you were invited, if you didn't come ...well... Lavallin has pictures, chem samples, other things you can get copys of if missed coming.. Or perhaps its left hand not knowing what right was doing and you did have an investigating team come as I invited..

OOC: mea culpa - I'll edit this later and put in an IC response when I have more time.

EDIT: could you point out the post where the invitation was issued - I can't find it after a look as far back as the nuclear detonation. I may be blind and/or stupid.

SECOND EDIT: found the post...

dont do that

dont do that

OOC:
Huh?

Pray tell what mean and whats a brand new nation here for?


:?:

OOC: I'll be incommunicado for a day or two, so don't do anything too major, ok guys? Cya! :wink:

OOC: I'll be incommunicado for a day or two, so don't do anything too major, ok guys? Cya! :wink:

OOC: I'm sure we can keep things from moving along too much before you return.

The same briefing chamber in the Body of Delegate's assembly halls:

As Ashleigh, the under-secretary turns to leave Franklin W. Hardy-Boyce to his brooding deliberations he notices an envelope lying on the floor beside the chairman's desk. He bends to pick it up, dusts it off and reads the address upon it. He turns back to face the chairman and coughs politely to gain his attention.

"Yes, what is it now?" comes the answer from behind the overladen table.

"A letter, Mr. Hardy-Boyce, it appears to have fallen from your desk," he answers as he hands over the missive.

The chairman takes the envelope and slits open the side with a stainless steel letter-opener. He unfolds the single sheet of paper and reads quickly through it. Ashleigh recognises the crest of Lavallin embossed onto the page.

Franklin strokes at his sideboards and lets the letter rest on his green baize desk. "Well, it appears that in all this confusion I was mistaken - they did invite our teams to help in investigating the hulk. It appears that we have missed the boat," after this gruesome pun he glances across conspiratorially at the under-secretary and continues, "well, at least we didn't release an official complaint about that one... but still, what kind of investigative procedure is it when the police destroy the evidence before a trial takes place?"

"An unorthodox one, sir, at least by our legislation," Ashleigh responds, "but, I believe they may do things differently in Lavallin."

At this Franklin W. Hardy-Boyce nods and looks through the heaps of forms and charts that litter his desk. He manages to find a dog-eared summary of an official UN release and reads through it quickly before saying: "Lavallin: Police State. Well, well, well. It appears that we do have somewhat different ideas of judicial procedure and jurisprudence. If you would be so kind, Ashleigh, as issuing an official dispatch to the good people of Lavallin, asking them why the found it necessary to destroy the evidence connected with the attack. I still feel uneasy about this whole investigation... it was interesting, was it not, that despite the extreme unpunctuality of some representatives at the conference, the attack only occurred once all were in present? I believe those barbarians that launched at us may have had the benefit of a little helping hand. I believe that if more people spent less time hunting submarines and focused more on looking for moles we might all be in a better position," with that he returns to his facial grooming with a look of extreme concentration as Ashleigh dutifully departs to issue the dispatch.




OOC: that shouldn’t move things on too far... this post has appeared before one by Lavallin which was actually posted the day before, I believe this is because they have reset the server's clocks after the crash a few days back.

OOC: I'll be incommunicado for a day or two, so don't do anything too major, ok guys? Cya! :wink:


OOC: We will try......

In the Capital of Lavallin, on a nicely shaded street, passerbys are startled when a Black truck pulls up to a house and 24 armored police burst out of the back, spreading out and Then quickly bursting into the house..

Sudden gunfire ensues.....

Then All is quiet..

From Within the house the Squad leader on a secure encrypted cal tells His supervisor "sir, we tried hiwever the suspect resisted with lethal force, when it became apparent there was overwhelming force facing him he killed himself with his AK automatic...(the leader looks down at a gory mess of what was a human but is now just pieces of flesh,bone, entrails and blood... in distaste)

Yes sir, we are doing a full search and bringing in the white shirts (what they call the labratory types) and will do all we can to find out exactly who it was..."

Ending the call, the squad leader mutters to his 2nd in command "Damn, how could they have missed the gun he had, someone in survilence is going to have alot to explain about how the house cameras didn't pickup that he had a gun... damn probably some (blep) who was not watching every second, theres (blep) to pay for this screwup.... One thing we do know he is not lavallin nor of any 32 CIR, glancing at what was left of a clearly foreign looking face..."

Hospital BWO
A man lies in a small bed unconscious, his head and shoulder bandaged from a severe injury. An IV sits next to the bed dripping morphine to dull the pain of his shattered shoulder. A low moan emerges from the man as he struggles to consciousness. A moan that turns to a cry of pain as he tries to move the shoulder which suffered multiple fractures of the distal clavicle. A nurse rushes in to check on the man. Picking up the chart we see the man's name "William Forsyth."

At the side of the main access road to New Tiger's Bay, just by the turn off to where the main relief camp has been located, some wag has set up a sign which reads:

Welcome to New Tiger's Bay
Current dead population: 2736

You are now entering Camp Shiva
No nuclear accidents for 5 days

Please drive carefully.

The numbers upon the sign are written in chalk. After the initial uproar amongst the higher echelons that this placard caused, it grew to be quietly accepted, and then given unspoken approval. It has become something of a totem for the whole operation, and the other secondary relief camps have their own copies of the board.

It has become a matter of pride and some competition to be selected to update the numbers. Today it is the lot of Absalom Masuku, famed for his bronze medal in small bore rifle shooting in last year's European Games. It is this skill that has brought him to New Tiger's Bay. By day he travels the ash shrouded hillsides and broken roads of the region with his rifle at his side and a veterinary surgeon in attendance. Their mission is to cull the heavily injured livestock which now roam the territory. To Absalom it is an unpleasant duty, but he considers himself a patriot - the acceptance of his father and mother to the nation of BWO after their exile from Swaziland makes him feel indebted to the country. The killing does not disturb him overly much, but what does make him feel uneasy is the constant sight of maggots crawling through cooked flesh upon the flanks of cattle and sheep, all brought into crystal clear focus through his telescopic sights. At night they haunt his dreams and he has begun to drink heavily to dull himself into sleep. It has affected his work. When he first began here it was one shot for one kill, now he finds that often a second or third bullet is required. His hands have begun to shake, almost imperceptibly, but he knows that he will never compete at international standard again.

He wipes the last day's numbers off the board and chalks up new figures - '3532' and '6'. There is a round of applause from the off-duty aid workers, and several men and women have their pictures taken in front of the board, shaking hands or with their arms around the minor celebrity. It is only the Commanding Officer of Camp Shiva and his batman that know the casualty figures are an outright lie, slashed in half from the real figures. These updates have become an abstract ritual that helps them all deal with the horrors they face. Even the CO and his orderly find some consolation in looking up at the reduced fatality rate as they walk across the compound to the mess hall, knowing that they are lies, but more ready to accept their falsity than face the actual truth.



OOC: Some more flavour text while we wait for Vyse to come back on the scene. Don't worry about the time elapsed since the nuclear attack. I am aware that the rough agreement at the conference gave 2 days for Vysean troops to bug out, but (1) they were just drafts suggested by BWO, (2) they were only given tacit verbal agreement, nothing was signed, and (3) we all know that time here is a strange phenomenon.

OOC: Ok guys! I'm back! Thanks for not dropping any more nukes or anything. I'll be in and out of this thread over the next week or so, but you don't have to slow down. Let's get the peace talks started, etc, etc, okay?

Despite the setbacks Indra Prime is set and ready to rock with these new peace negotiations. Send the times and locations our way so we can send out a line of defense around the peace conference. Vyse, good to have you back.

Hospital BWO
A man lies in a small bed unconscious, his head and shoulder bandaged from a severe injury. An IV sits next to the bed dripping morphine to dull the pain of his shattered shoulder. A low moan emerges from the man as he struggles to consciousness. A moan that turns to a cry of pain as he tries to move the shoulder which suffered multiple fractures of the distal clavicle. A nurse rushes in to check on the man. Picking up the chart we see the man's name "William Forsyth."

A tall orderly of Indian extraction pushes a wheelchair into the ward. Sitting in the chair is Ms. Chinaski. She is wearing her shapeless yellow cardigan over her surgical gown. Across her lap there lies a woolen rug and on top of that rests a thin folder containing several sheets of pink paper. Beneath a black leather and silver metal leg brace her right knee is bandaged and her right foot is similarly wrapped. A tubular bandage also covers her right middle finger, and around her wrist there is a plastic identity tag. A wince of pain runs across her face as the orderly clicks the wheelchair's brakes into position.

She signals to the orderly and he draws the curtains around Forsyth's bed, before leaving and taking the ward sister with him. The whole ward is empty save for Chinaski and Forsyth. The only sounds in the room are the constant hum of the air-conditioning and the occasional pained intake of breath from the two patients. She shrugs her shoulders painfully as she shifts her weight in the chair before settling to wait for Forsyth to return to clarity.

In the meantime she appears to be studying his face very closely.

Yet another 3 Black Hawk helicopters with Republican markings fly into BWO airspace. This time, the destination is a small strip of coastline, far away from any med center. Enrique steps out of the first chopper as it lands, and looks at the wreck of his plane. He's brought a team to extract the bodies of the Blue Rogues and the pilots who died. After about an hour of work, the eight SF troops and the two pilots are taken out of the plane and laid out on the beach. As the bodies are cleaned up as best as possible, Enrique looks down at the pale face of the team leader. He remembered telling him about his hopes that the party would be peaceful. He hadn't had a chance to talk to the soldier after that. And now the man was dead, like so many of Enrique's comrades in the civil war. "I lost another one." Enrique wiped at his eyes, and picked up the cane he was using to get around. His leg hadn't fully healed yet, so he had to use the cane until it did. Two of the Black Hawks would bring the bodies back to their own country. Enrique would be taking the first one for a little trip. He had heard that Ms. Chinaski and Forsyth had survived the blast, and were currently holed up in a hospital. He had decided to visit them, to see how they had fared. He hoped they were okay.

The mobile phone rings in the pocket of Ms. Chinaski's cardigan. She wakes from her dozing vigil and fishes out the bulky handset and extends the aerial.

"Hello", she says into it, not seeming entirely at home with the new-fangled technology.

"....."

"Prince Enrique is wishing to attend? Yes, certainly, send him up. We are not much craic here, but I believe we may have some good news for him in the midst of all this suffering."

"....."

"No, I haven't informed Mr. Forsyth yet, either. He still hasn't quite come round." With that she presses a clunky button on the phone and returns to her waiting, leafing through her documents as she sits there.

The mobile phone rings in the pocket of Ms. Chinaski's cardigan. She wakes from her dozing vigil and fishes out the bulky handset.

"Hello", she says into, not seeming entirely at home with the technology.

"....."

"Prince Enrique is wishing to attend? Yes, certainly, send him up. We are not much craic here, but I believe we may have some good news for him in the midst of all this suffering."

"....."

"No, I haven't informed Mr. Forsyth yet, either. He still hasn't quite come round." With that she presses a clunky button on the phone and returns to her waiting, leafing through her documents as she sits there.



About half an hour after Ms. Chinaski gets the call, Enrique limps into the hospital. He pulls up a chair next to Forsyth's bed and eases himself into it, grunting with pain. "Good to see you again, Ms. Chinaski. I hope your recovery goes well."[He gestures to Forsyth.] 'Still hasn't come around, has he? Poor guy. Oh, well, he's a lot luckier than quite a few people. So are you and I. So, any GOOD news? I'm getting sick of hearing the bad kind."

"Yes, we appear to have just neutralized three naval battlegroups, two divisions of infantry and a reinforced tank company while liberating one of Mr. Forsyth's colonial holdings..." says the small woman quietly as she raises herself slightly in her chair to shake the Prince's hand.

OOC:

Of Idle interest:

Lavallin is ranked 6th in the region and 2,088th in the world for Largest Defense Forces (per capita).

"Yes, we appear to have just neutralized three naval battlegroups, two divisions of infantry and a reinforced tank company while liberating one of Mr. Forsyth's colonial holdings..." says the small woman quietly as she raises herself slightly in her chair to shake the Prince's hand.


Enrique shakes her hand. "Glad to hear that. How are things going with the rescue operations? I know we sent in some doctors and such, but is there anything else you need besides, well, bodybags? I'm afraid we can't spare any of those, because of the war in BI, as well as the conflict in my homeland. But I'm sure I can get Lord Vyse to send anything else you need."

OOC:

Of Idle interest:

Lavallin is ranked 6th in the region and 2,088th in the world for Largest Defense Forces (per capita).

OOC: I'm sure you will have checked the ratings for British Imperialism, Santa Barbara and Whispering Voices.

OOC:

Of Idle interest:

Lavallin is ranked 6th in the region and 2,088th in the world for Largest Defense Forces (per capita).

OOC: I'm sure you will have checked the ratings for British Imperialism, Santa Barbara and Whispering Voices.

OOC: lavallin, would you please, pardon the expression, stop blowing your own horn. :roll: We really don't give a damn what your militairy strength is. If you really want to get in a pissing contest with DD, do it somewhere else.

Enrique shakes her hand. "Glad to hear that. How are things going with the rescue operations? I know we sent in some doctors and such, but is there anything else you need besides, well, bodybags? I'm afraid we can't spare any of those, because of the war in BI, as well as the conflict in my homeland. But I'm sure I can get Lord Vyse to send anything else you need."

"We thank you for your aid. The relief operation in New Tiger's Bay appears to be reaching a conclusion. We were lucky that the attack happened in such a sparsely populated area. It seems that the only active teams still in the field are now digging through collapsed buildings looking for corpses adn hoping for some trapped survivors. We thank you for offer of further aid, right now we believe we are self-sufficient - but, Prince, how tired are your men on the British Imperialist mainland? I ask only out of an honest concern for the young men and women, of course."

Indra Prime has recieved intelligence pertaining to the increase activity of Special Forces Operations in Northern England by the British Commonwealth. From past experience, Special Forces in any noticeable amounts do not generally help in the search for survivors. Therefore, as a neutral party, Indra Prime is sending an envoy of IP peacekeepers to supervise the operation. In order to protect our peacekeepers we are also sending a IPCBG (Indra Prime Carrier Battle Group) to the area. These support ships are also going to remain there until the conclusion of the new peace negotiations. They will provide a first line of defense around the conference.

Robert Smith
Deputy Director of Defense

Shipping News:

The BWO deep sea survey vessel Jules Verne has announced that it is currently en route to the location where Lavallin reported the discovery of a "1700 or Early 1800's shipwreck". It is planned to carry out sonar scans of the wreck in situ before anyone can disturb this important historical relic. Representatives of the BWO Geographical and Anthropological Society (GAS) are believed to be on board and are said to be very exited by the prospect of witnessing the recovery of this fascinating historical artifact. For this important scientific mission the Jules Verne is reported to have been fitted with launching apapratus for the GAS's new experimental bathysphere.

The survey ships George Griffiths and Herbert George Wells are still attempting to follow the cloud of nuclear particles cast into the atmosphere by the detonation at New Tiger's Bay. It continues to encounter dry weather, and it is reported that there has been little lessening in its intensity, other than through gradual dispersion.

It has also been announced that the survey vessel H. Rider Haggard has been dispatched to research any contamination of the arctic icecap which may have occured. A landing team of specialists is believed to be on board.

The first IPCBG has set sail for the coast and will arive within 24 hours. Peacekeepers are on board and ready to assist/ supervise. The lead ship, the IP Command Carrier, Phoenix One has ten fighter wings aboard in case air support for IP Peacekeepers is needed.

Robert Smith
Deputy Director of Defense

OOC:

Of Idle interest:

Lavallin is ranked 6th in the region and 2,088th in the world for Largest Defense Forces (per capita).

OOC: I'm sure you will have checked the ratings for British Imperialism, Santa Barbara and Whispering Voices.

OOC:


Yes :roll: :P

So their Big Boys, but I'm not bad, top 3000 out of how many nations? 70000+?

:D :D :lol: 8)

Looking at yours no wonder Catalinas and such :wink:

Bodies Without Organs is ranked 1st in the region and 64,189th in the world for Largest Defense Forces (per capita

Not making fun of you, its simply interesting..

OOC:

Of Idle interest:

Lavallin is ranked 6th in the region and 2,088th in the world for Largest Defense Forces (per capita).

OOC: I'm sure you will have checked the ratings for British Imperialism, Santa Barbara and Whispering Voices.

OOC: lavallin, would you please, pardon the expression, stop blowing your own horn. :roll: We really don't give a damn what your militairy strength is. If you really want to get in a pissing contest with DD, do it somewhere else.


Sheesh, Only posted it of interest, its only a game and supposed be fun... Did I mention DD in there?

OOC:

Of Idle interest:

Lavallin is ranked 6th in the region and 2,088th in the world for Largest Defense Forces (per capita).

OOC: I'm sure you will have checked the ratings for British Imperialism, Santa Barbara and Whispering Voices.

OOC: lavallin, would you please, pardon the expression, stop blowing your own horn. :roll: We really don't give a damn what your militairy strength is. If you really want to get in a pissing contest with DD, do it somewhere else.


Sheesh, Only posted it of interest, its only a game and supposed be fun... Did I mention DD in there?

Pal, most of your posts in the past,like, 5 or 6 pages, have consisted of trying to scare off DD. I just assumed this was the same thing.

Shipping News:

The BWO deep sea survey vessel Jules Verne has announced that it is currently en route to the location where Lavallin reported the discovery of a "1700 or Early 1800's shipwreck". It is planned to carry out sonar scans of the wreck in situ before anyone can disturb this important historical relic. Representatives of the BWO Geographical and Anthropological Society (GAS) are believed to be on board and are said to be very exited by the prospect of witnessing the recovery of this fascinating historical artifact. For this important scientific mission the Jules Verne is reported to have been fitted with launching apapratus for the GAS's new experimental bathysphere.

The survey ships George Griffiths and Herbert George Wells are still attempting to follow the cloud of nuclear particles cast into the atmosphere by the detonation at New Tiger's Bay. It continues to encounter dry weather, and it is reported that there has been little lessening in its intensity, other than through gradual dispersion.

It has also been announced that the survey vessel H. Rider Haggard has been dispatched to research any contamination of the arctic icecap which may have occured. A landing team of specialists is believed to be on board.


IC: You have sent in all those forms and also paid yet the unrefundable fee and do note as it is on edge of Lavallins 12 mile limit... it may well be wholly in Lavallins Soverign waters...

:wink:

Enrique shakes her hand. "Glad to hear that. How are things going with the rescue operations? I know we sent in some doctors and such, but is there anything else you need besides, well, bodybags? I'm afraid we can't spare any of those, because of the war in BI, as well as the conflict in my homeland. But I'm sure I can get Lord Vyse to send anything else you need."

"We thank you for your aid. The relief operation in New Tiger's Bay appears to be reaching a conclusion. We were lucky that the attack happened in such a sparsely populated area. It seems that the only active teams still in the field are now digging through collapsed buildings looking for corpses adn hoping for some trapped survivors. We thank you for offer of further aid, right now we believe we are self-sufficient - but, Prince, how tired are your men on the British Imperialist mainland? I ask only out of an honest concern for the young men and women, of course."

"They are growing weary, but they're good people. Some are veterans from the ET conflict, and many have fought the Valuan Armada in the past, so they have the experience necessary to survive. They'll stay till the job is done, no matter how tired they are. It's how we're trained."

OOC: g2g. CYA tomorrow!

Shipping News:

The BWO deep sea survey vessel Jules Verne has announced that it is currently en route to the location where Lavallin reported the discovery of a "1700 or Early 1800's shipwreck". It is planned to carry out sonar scans of the wreck in situ before anyone can disturb this important historical relic. Representatives of the BWO Geographical and Anthropological Society (GAS) are believed to be on board and are said to be very exited by the prospect of witnessing the recovery of this fascinating historical artifact. For this important scientific mission the Jules Verne is reported to have been fitted with launching apapratus for the GAS's new experimental bathysphere.



IC: You have sent in all those forms and also paid yet the unrefundable fee and do note as it is on edge of Lavallins 12 mile limit... it may well be wholly in Lavallins Soverign waters...

:wink:

It appears that said paperwork has not yet been completed. A request in the name of science and academic fellowship is issued. A broadcast to the Lavallin ships in the area praises them for their stern upholding of the UN resolution governing the preservation of historical sites. There are also murmurings that the survey ship might start looking for the 'relatively shallow waters' wherein a sub was reported sunk recently. While waiting for official response from the proper archeological authorities of the nation of Lavallin the bathyscope is deployed just outside the 12 mile limit and an investigation begins looking for any artifacts or debris which may have been widely scattered when the 'sailing vessel' went down.

It appears that said paperwork has not yet been completed. A request in the name of science and academic fellowship is issued. A broadcast to the Lavallin ships in the area praises them for their stern upholding of the UN resolution governing the preservation of historical sites. There are also murmurings that the survey ship might start looking for the 'relatively shallow waters' wherein a sub was reported sunk recently. While waiting for official response from the proper archeological authorities of the nation of Lavallin the bathyscope is deployed just outside the 12 mile limit and an investigation begins looking for any artifacts or debris which may have been widely scattered when the 'sailing vessel' went down.


Some IC stuff:

Your ships are being escorted by an Aegis cruiser and 4 Destroyers
since Lavallin did declare Irish Sea an exclusion zone till hostilities over

Until paperworks done, etc you have to wait

Also you cannot remove the wreck from where it is, but once all paperworks done, fees paid and some Lavallin archologists join you you will have your chance to examine the old shipwreck


As to that sub your looking into, you will allow Lavallin military to examine anything recovered, we are interested in what a sub was in shallow waters within our 12 mile limits.. we are a bit confused why your looking outside the limits.. :wink:

Previous description of Exclusion zone:
3: The Irish sea separates BI and 32 Nations, I hereby DECLARE it an exclusion zone, no Forces but allies, and 32 Nations are tolerated, BI attacked arcoss that Sea, while a state of war is still in force NO BI and NO allies of BI are to be WITHIN that SEA.
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Some IC stuff:

Your ships are being escorted by an Aegis cruiser and 4 Destroyers
since Lavallin did declare Irish Sea an exclusion zone till hostilities over

Until paperworks done, etc you have to wait

The captain of the Jules Verne acknowledges that the Irish Sea was declared an exclusion zone by the nation of Lavallin, however he also notes that his ship is currently operating in international waters and has not crossed into Lavallin sovereign waters. He raises some questions as to the legitmacy of Lavallin's unilateral declaration of the international waters beyond the 12 mile boundary as an exclusion zone. Glancing at the earlier official dispatch from Lavallin he also notes that as an unarmed vessel the Jules Verne cannot be described as a 'force', he need not remind anyone that the nation of Bodies Without Organs is a neutral country and so is neither covered by the description 'BI' nor 'allies of BI'.

The escort deployed to protect the ship in case of attack by hostile powers is appreciated and haled heartily by all those aboard the survey vessel.

Also you cannot remove the wreck from where it is, but once all paperworks done, fees paid and some Lavallin archologists join you you will have your chance to examine the old shipwreck


As to that sub your looking into, you will allow Lavallin military to examine anything recovered, we are interested in what a sub was in shallow waters within our 12 mile limits.. we are a bit confused why your looking outside the limits.. :wink:

The captain also reports that there was no intention to remove the wreck from its current location. The expedition is of a purely observatory nature. The captain, after consultation with diving specialists and aquatic archeologists, reports that the bathyscope has been deployed to survey the sea bed as due to the act of tidal forces over periods of time the debris from a wreck can become widely scattered across large areas of the seabed, he also forwards the information that in the cases of vessels which flounder suddenly or which meet their end in an explosive manner much matter can be cast away from the main body of the wreck. The sunken sailing vessel was reported as being located 'on edge of Lavallins 12 mile limit', and he informs his opposite number that they are merely surveying on the deep sea side of this limit.

The Captain also cordially requests clarification over the two different locations of the two different sunken vessels currently under discussion.



OOC: Any instruments scanning the Jules Verne will discover it to be, as claimed, unarmed. If the scanners are sufficiently powerful and precise several flare pistols in emergency lockers and two lightweight SCUBA divers' harpoon guns will be detected. Nothing out of the ordinary, in other words.

OOC:

Of Idle interest:

Lavallin is ranked 6th in the region and 2,088th in the world for Largest Defense Forces (per capita).

OOC: I'm sure you will have checked the ratings for British Imperialism, Santa Barbara and Whispering Voices.

Love that you can see other people's ratings now.

Santa Barbara: 34
Whispering Voices: 349
Austrin-Ontis: 790
Thulackack: 739
British Imperialism: 620
British Commonwealth: 5,619

Vyse King of Rogues: 13,082
Danu: 6,019
Indra Prime: 23,991
Psychik TV: 1,346
HARU: 467
Northern Irish Freedom: 1,415

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IC:

The helicopter with Cardinal Matthias and Trevelyan heads towards a Bodies Without Organs airfield, hoping to pick up some fuel before the long and gruelling flight to the Isle of Man.

Indra Prime has recieved intelligence pertaining to the increase activity of Special Forces Operations in Northern England by the British Commonwealth. From past experience, Special Forces in any noticeable amounts do not generally help in the search for survivors. Therefore, as a neutral party, Indra Prime is sending an envoy of IP peacekeepers to supervise the operation. In order to protect our peacekeepers we are also sending a IPCBG (Indra Prime Carrier Battle Group) to the area. These support ships are also going to remain there until the conclusion of the new peace negotiations. They will provide a first line of defense around the conference.

Robert Smith
Deputy Director of Defense

1015 EST


"Someone was bound to find out eventully, sir"
The young aide said slightly sheepishly while holding onto the latest intelligence infomation.There were 6 people in the briefing room room, Including the aide
General Stevens, Admiral Biggs, Commadore Bampton, Brigadier Matterson and Air Marshal Weaver.

General Stevens was not happy, Indra Prime 'Observers' were coming to check on operations in search for Lord stewert.

"They were Bound to find out eventully, it was just a matter of time" Admiral Biggs said, whilst sipping Tea.
" The good news is they don't know what we are after."

"We'll use that to our advantage" added Weaver
"We are getting close to Stewert, its just a matter of days"

General Stevens Looked at them.

"They will be here in two days, Delay them as much as possible and then make up some phoney operations for them to follow, once We have stewert, it won't matter much any way" Stevens calmly said

The first IPCBG has set sail for the coast and will arive within 24 hours. Peacekeepers are on board and ready to assist/ supervise. The lead ship, the IP Command Carrier, Phoenix One has ten fighter wings aboard in case air support for IP Peacekeepers is needed.

Robert Smith
Deputy Director of Defense

<Transmission to Indra Prime, Bodies Without Organs>

ANY further violation of the waters of the Devils Desert region will result in the complete, total, and utter obliteration of said offending force. The Devils Desert has a complete embargo on unauthorised foreign shipping in our waters. Such has been stated repeatedly. Vyse has been granted time to clean up and finish their mission - time and our aid, in fact - but there are to be no more international forces entering this theatre.

<Transmission to Bodies Without Organs>
Bodies Without Organs, we suggest you try to dissuade these fools. We haven't acted yet, mainly because Danu's minister's speech touched our hearts, but this is a sincere and honest warning that any forces sent without express permission by a Devils Desert region member will be destroyed.


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The Murderous Tendencies fleet expeditions, guided by satellite notification of the Indra Prime fleets, move to intercept. Hunter-killer submarines rise from trenches and slowly creep along the ocean's surface.


OOC: sat-scanning for the details and complement of a carrier battle group. Similar to the US one?

<Transmission to Indra Prime, Bodies Without Organs>

ANY further violation of the waters of the Devils Desert region will result in the complete, total, and utter obliteration of said offending force. The Devils Desert has a complete embargo on unauthorised foreign shipping in our waters. Such has been stated repeatedly. Vyse has been granted time to clean up and finish their mission - time and our aid, in fact - but there are to be no more international forces entering this theatre.

<Transmission to Bodies Without Organs>
Bodies Without Organs, we suggest you try to dissuade these fools. We haven't acted yet, mainly because Danu's minister's speech touched our hearts, but this is a sincere and honest warning that any forces sent without express permission by a Devils Desert region member will be destroyed.


BWO communication station responds - message unclear: are we to take the first paragraph as an attempt to ban the survey vessel Jules Verne from operation in international waters in the Irish Sea?, or is only the second paragraph directed at our nation?

Until this matter is resolved the unarmed scientific vessel will continue to operate in its current location.

In the mean time a broadcast is directed to the Indra Prime convoy, strongly recommending that they draw to a halt and begin communications with the legitimate British Imperialist government in exile if they wish to gain legal permission to continue their mission of locating MIA/AWOL Indra Prime elements and providing direction to the British Commonwealth relief efforts (it should be noted that Indra Prime carried out the bulk of relief action beyond the south-east of England, and so has much valuable information which will be of use to BC operations). The loss of lives while trying to save those of others would be deeply regretable to all involved.

It is also politely pointed out to the nation of Whispering Voices that, as they are very much aware, no formal agreements were reached before the peace talks were so rudely interrupted. BWO's approval of the new suggested venue - the Isle of Man - may be influenced by how Whispering Voices handles this minor incident. We are aware that we have no veto here, but the chance to decide the new location was forwarded to our nation as a courtesy following our sad losses. If direct confrontation is unavoidable, Whispering Voices' good intentions would be demonstrated not by the 'obliteration' of the IPCBG, but by an attempt at its neutralisation with a minimum of casualties.

To: Bodies Without Organs

The Jules Verne is irrelevant, given that it's in the Irish Sea, which isn't part of the Devils Desert except the part that comprises British coastal waters. The first transmission was sent to you in order that the second would make sense.

As for formal agreements, there is an understanding between Vyse - the only Irish forces currently on British soil - and the Devils Desert, namely that Vyse will finish mine clearance and other missions within Britain before leaving. Diplomats are obviously welcome to attend the peace conference, wherever it is held. However the moving of an IPCBG is a direct threat to the defence of the region. The battle group will, of course, be given a chance to surrender - thereby assuring minimal casualties - however we would assume that you're aware of the nature of naval warfare - namely that boats get sunk - this can, in many cases, result in the loss of lives. Due to the fact conflict would occur over water, we are loathe to deploy biological or chemical elements, for fear of pollution.

I am calling a halt to the IPCBG lead by Phoenix One as of right now but I urge the Government in Exile of The British Imperialism to grant us passage in these waters. This flotilla is not, I say again not, a hostile target. They are there to provide oversight to the rescue operation that is occuring under the current supervision of British Commonwealth. We have a strong need to be there due to the loss of communication between Indra Prime Ops Center and the Field Teams that were in BI at the time. We also call to the table that Whispering Voices should not halt relief efforts on the part of Indra Prime. It would be a show of good faith if BI allows our flotilla through these waters to the coast so we can recover information on our "people".

Robert Smith
Deputy Director of Defense
Indra Prime

Any agression against the IPCBG now that they've halted will be considered an act of war. If it comes to that we will call in ALL of our resources that exist to fight and win that campaign. And I don't mean just the things based in the region.

To: Bodies Without Organs

The Jules Verne is irrelevant, given that it's in the Irish Sea, which isn't part of the Devils Desert except the part that comprises British coastal waters. The first transmission was sent to you in order that the second would make sense.

Clarification received. We have seen several 'pre-emptive' military actions in this conflict, and merely wished to assess the situation. Indra Prime, meanwhile, appears to have made a decision.


OOC: With regard to the current deployment of the Jules Verne, I have been operating on the assumption that a wide strip of international waters exists in the Irish Sea. This is where we operated the radio ship earlier in the thread, and no-one challenged it then. This comment is just directed at the thread as a whole...

We need a reply from the British Imperialism Government within 24 four hours so we can maintain our timetable. If not then we may have to proceed. When the time is up we will deliberate further and decide a course of action. We need to recover our people.

Robert Smith
Deputy Director of Defense

To: Bodies Without Organs

The Jules Verne is irrelevant, given that it's in the Irish Sea, which isn't part of the Devils Desert except the part that comprises British coastal waters. The first transmission was sent to you in order that the second would make sense.

Clarification received. We have seen several 'pre-emptive' military actions in this conflict, and merely wished to assess the situation. Indra Prime, meanwhile, appears to have made a decision.


OOC: With regard to the current deployment of the Jules Verne, I have been operating on the assumption that a wide strip of international waters exists in the Irish Sea. This is where we operated the radio ship earlier in the thread, and no-one challenged it then. This comment is just directed at the thread as a whole...



Actually, in places it seems like theres less 50 miles separating GB and Ireland , meaning any international waters are a narrow band between, also some maps have a Ireland/UK division down middle of Irish Sea..

IC: Your radio ship was shadowed by a Sub, Lavallin is patrolling Irish sea, nothings moving without our watching :)

Any agression against the IPCBG now that they've halted will be considered an act of war. If it comes to that we will call in ALL of our resources that exist to fight and win that campaign. And I don't mean just the things based in the region.

<Transmission to Indra Prime, Bodies Without Organs, Devils Desert nations>

Relief efforts are not mounted from carrier battle groups. Attacks are. Any military forces you deploy to the Devils Desert will be crushed. Subsequent to the recent United Nations poll, it is evident that the Devils Desert is one of the most well-defended regions in the entire world, with all that ensues.

Relief forces without a military presence that do not attempt to bear arms into the British lands will be met with a much kinder presence.

We say again: do not proceed with your carrier battle group, regardless of your timetable. Just as an attack on the IPCBG whilst it is inside international waters will be considered an act of war, sailing said group into Devils Desert waters will be considered likewise. In the meantime, M.T. troops are taking affirmative action to locate Indra Prime assets within Britain.


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Meanwhile, Dominion of Whispering Voices troops contact the British Commonwealth, Vyse, and the British Imperialism Government-in-exile stating that they're searching for Indra Prime peoples in order to return said people to their government safe and sound.



OOC: Indra, you need to post how big that carrier battle group is, as requested above.

Very well.

The IPCBG is consisting of:

IPS Phoenix One
Theta Class Aircraft Carrier
10 Fighter Wings Aboard
Usual Supplementary Support Craft

IPS Fire Lance
Volchovy Class Battle Carrier
IP Peacekeeper Wings Aboard
Usual Supplementary Support Craft

IPS Singularity
Volchovy Class Battle Carrier
IP Peacekeeper/ Diplomatic Corps Aboard
Usual Supplementary Support Craft

IPS Folgolth
Gayan Class Battleship
Six 3000 lb Fore and Aft Guns
Four Chinook Support Helos

IPS Trafalgar
Gayan Class Battleship
Six 3000 lb Fore and Aft Guns
Four Chinook Support Helos

IPS Dante
Gayan Class Battleship
Six 3000 lb Fore and Aft Guns
Four Chinook Support Helos

IPS Folgolth
Daedalus Class Cruiser
Four 1000 lb Fore and Aft Guns

IPS Carlaw
Daedalus Class Cruiser
Four 1000 lb For Guns and Aft Guns

IPS Kalgan
Tolstoy Class Destroyer
Medium Range Tomahawk Missile Carrier

IPS Marineris
Tolstoy Class Destroyer
Medium Range Tomahawk Missile Carrier

IPS Olympus
Tolstoy Class Destroyer
Medium Range Tomahawk Missile Carrier

IPS Terminus
Olivaw Class Refueling Transport

IPS Arneel
Olivaw Class Refueling Transport

The IPCBG will remain in International waters between the Islands so there is no threat of IP attacking. We have sent these ships in just to protect our men and women in BI. Oh yeah, BI and BC, you will never find all of our people. We know the truth about your search. If you do not want the world to know the truth, then you will allow my flotilla in to do what we need to do. This IPCBG is one of our smaller BGs.

We will not make ANY agressive moves toward BI or Bc but our Forces will not back down from their location in INTERNATIONAL WATERS. Because of the posture that BC is taking against Indra Prime, Indra Prime is upgrading to Defense Condition Three. I suggest you do not make any agresive moves toward our CBG. We are protecting them with assets that you are unaware of.

Robert Smith
Deputy of Defense
Indra Prime

"Sir - this just in from the sat scans." The young Communications officer sounded a little shaken. "It's the scan of the Indra Prime Carrier Battle Group hovering outside the British waters, sir ... and they're big."

The elderly commander took the papers and printouts, and his eyes widened as he looked over them ... and then he laughed.

"My goodness. It appears their naval designers are totally clueless. Don't lose hope yet, boy. This big carrier - the one with ten fighter wings - that's 720 planes. That's a sitting duck, it's massive - why, that's ten times bigger than a Nimitz. A sufficient strike - possibly ortillery, that or conventional missiles - will crush it. The smaller carriers, the ones only as big as Nimitz's - well, they're not too much of a threat. And look at these battleships, lad. Six 3,000lb guns? Never mind the fact 3,000lb guns fire only projectiles as opposed to missiles - if they fire a single one of those guns the ship will split in half, because the fore will crunch backwards at incredible speed. That or they're built like the Japanese Yamato, and we all know how effective they were. Besides which, guns with poundages went out of date in the first world war, haha. The only dangerous ones are these - the ones with the Tomahawks. Fortunately, we've got Sherwoods and the like on the ground. Patch this through to the Murderous Tendencies fleet, however - they'll need to run checks on all the anti-missile defences, quit possibly get all the Davids to literally flak the air."

The commander took a sip of his coffee, then another thought struck him.

"Lad - get me a MilCalc will you?" Shortly afterwards, he laughed again. "Alright - given Indra Prime's size and spending, this carrier battle group consists of well over a quarter of their possible naval resources. Which means either they've got a tiny navy - look at the amount they've sunk into each ship - or it means every single one of those ships is made of aluminium. It's nothing to worry about, boyo. Murderous Tendencies won't even bat an eyelid, taking down that group, if they need to."

"Director, here's the latest intelligence from our source in Whispering Voices. They are not taking us seriously."

Smith looked up at the commander and handed back the latest printouts.

"Son, Listen to me. Those old Dogs in Whispering Voices don't know what they're getting themselves into. From the information coming our way through our satellite feeds they think that our ships are no match for them. Well with the information we provided them I can see why. But what really boggles the mind is that they think that we told them everything. Hah!"

The Commander looked confused at this strange attitude the Director had.

"Sir, with all do respect, the information we sent out was totally truthful. There was no deception."

The Director had a humorous look in his eye When he heard that.

"Commander, Do you recall the small incident that occured on the coast of BWO? I can see you do remember that fateful day we lost Joshua Lee and his Assistants. Well what you don't know is that immediately following that incident, our entire fleet of Cattipillar Nuclear Submarines headed for the region. As you are well aware those ships are the size of the Los Angeles Class Attack Subs controlled by the United States and there must be at least 75 of them around the area. With their ICBM's they could target any threat and eliminate them in minutes."
"What's the kicker, is that part of our strategy is to make them think that the craft are as defenseless as they appear to be. We specifically classified to true capabilities of our vessels even from our intel people so we could still have the upper hand in a conflict."

"But sir, I don't understand. Where did all this funding comefrom for these modifications?" I have been in control of the Naval Budget including weapons defense plans for the Theta Class!"

"Commander, You know the meaning of Top Secret, it means that I don't have to tell you. However, I feel I'm in a generous mood so I might as well tell you. Do you remember that space program we decided to halt for the time being about six months ago? Well indeed we just moved operations of planet to a system outside of threats. We have made literally Billions and billions of credits from sales and poured what profits we had into our defensive and offensive weaponry. We also have an Ace up our sleeve, just watch and enjoy, Our boys will still come home."

OOC: You weren't being asked for information, military satellites were scanning for it. Therefore, it's likely to be truthful - although if the submarines are deep enough they won't be revealed. However, if they approach British waters, they will be detected by the Hunter-Killer submarines deployed by Murderous Tendencies.

OOC: who said they were in British waters? And you underestimate a country with a substantial financial backing and our R&D.

OOC:

You said it:
Well what you don't know is that immediately following that incident, our entire fleet of Cattipillar Nuclear Submarines headed for the region.

Secondly, maintaining carriers takes around $150 million, a year, for the hull alone - not including anything else, such as ammunition, personnel costs, etc. One off sales may buy a fleet but they won't maintain it. Your overall defence strength will be measured according to population, economy, and defence spending per capita. R&D costs and financial backing are taken into account. Otherwise everyone would just say "Yeah, I have your military, but squared!"

OOC: If you have a problem with the way I'm running my military then why don't you just take a look at some of the other threads and see for yourself the amount of money that has changed hands in MY favor over the past few months and then you will se that I am not godmoding this. These sales are not just a one time thing but I am hitting up many different places and I am getting plenty of funds from it. I do not take advantage of a situation. I just exploit it to the extreme in my favor and it works as you can see if you have the desire to find out. Ask some of your allies whom I have worked with in the past and they will tell you that I speak the truth.
And for another matter, please don't go around telling me how I can spend my money and my resources. If I determine that placing it mainly in defense and other necessities then So be it. that is whaat happens.

OOC:

You said it:
Well what you don't know is that immediately following that incident, our entire fleet of Cattipillar Nuclear Submarines headed for the region.

Secondly, maintaining carriers takes around $150 million, a year, for the hull alone - not including anything else, such as ammunition, personnel costs, etc. One off sales may buy a fleet but they won't maintain it. Your overall defence strength will be measured according to population, economy, and defence spending per capita. R&D costs and financial backing are taken into account. Otherwise everyone would just say "Yeah, I have your military, but squared!"

I said they were headed for the REGION, I never specified where in the region they were headed to.

The last shot fired by the resisting British rebels echoed with a resounding 'crack' around the walls of the quarry, hitting a soldier to Muhammed's left square in the face, killing him instantly. Then ... silence.

"Into cover. Airstrike." The message flashed up on his screen briefly, and he waved his squad back down. Then, there was a tucha-tucha-tucha-tuchatuchatuchaTUCHA sound, and over the treeline popped a sleek, glimmering Apache - at least, it looked like an Apache. A pair of missiles streaked out into the quarry and ...

with a blast that almost penetrated his ultrasonic dampeners, the ground shook. Water and stone erupted outwards, spraying the nearby forest.

And then, there was silence save for the chopper. No screams, nothing. The helicopter flew away, and Muhammed led his men to check for corpses.

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Meanwhile, the Murderous Tendencies fleet spread out a little as it approached the boundaries of international waters. Other fleets, fresh from dropping off task forces, began to move to join it. Sherwood stations on British soil began powering up, and satellites scanned for ranges. Above, the ARES and associated ASATS continued scanning the region and the 32 Nations area.


oocly: well you can either head for Santa Barbara, who would squash you like a gnat, british imperialism, which is where we are, or the devils desert (south of greenland) which would ... squash you like a gnat. You have a lower defence spend and about a 5th of the population of our tenth biggest military power. If it comes to a war, you're outnumbered and outgunned, and shouldn't expect to win . Besides which, initiating a nuclear attack would be stupid, given the huge amount of ICBMs that would be launched back.

OOC: If you have a problem with the way I'm running my military then why don't you just take a look at some of the other threads and see for yourself the amount of money that has changed hands in MY favor over the past few months and then you will se that I am not godmoding this. These sales are not just a one time thing but I am hitting up many different places and I am getting plenty of funds from it. I do not take advantage of a situation. I just exploit it to the extreme in my favor and it works as you can see if you have the desire to find out. Ask some of your allies whom I have worked with in the past and they will tell you that I speak the truth.
And for another matter, please don't go around telling me how I can spend my money and my resources. If I determine that placing it mainly in defense and other necessities then So be it. that is whaat happens.

I suppose it never occurred to you that other, far bigger nations that spend far more may also have ... /gasp ... traded?

If I determine that placing it mainly in defense and other necessities then So be it.

You're 23,991 in the world on Military Spending. You're undoubtedly getting advantages from enhanced trade (including money) that is part of the payoff for spending so little, but that won't change the fact that per capita you spend as equal to that UN poll. Simply bypassing the game stats entirely could be claimed - you wouldn't be the first to pick and choose the one you liked - but ultimately, that just ends to Idiot Escalation.
If it comes to that, Roania recently paid 10 trillion to me to leave his nation, and consisted of his entire GDP for about 10 years. That's enough to convert into gold and destroy your country by simply airdropping raw Au onto it. If you desperately want, I'll go buy a hundred of Tersanctus' uber-space-destroyers, and simply fragment you into a small pool of plasma. That's why I suggest we just stick to stats - and always have done so, even when it's to my disadvantage (Arani conflict springs to mind).

Anyway, enough OOCing. If you don't want to attempt to stick to vague common sense, I'm sure something can be arranged.

The nation of BWO once again calls for a de-escalation of tensions. It is hoped that if no response from the British Imperialism government in exile by the deadline is forthcoming then Indra Prime will be flexible. It is intimated that the loss of military capability in a conflict between the nations of Indra Prime and Whispering Voices would weaken both when there is much other work still to be done elsewhere.


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Meanwhile, in an almost empty ward in a BWO hospital:

As Prince Enrique and Ms. Chinaski talk the figure in the bed before them starts to give signs which might indicate they are coming round. Olga Chinaski winces in pain as she digs into the pocket of her cardigan and pulls out a large ornamental key. On it hangs a tag which reads 'Official Residence of the Governor and Chairman of the Executive council'. She shows it to the Prince and then tosses it into the recumbent Mr. Forsyth's lap.


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Simultaneous to these, in a briefing chamber in BWO:

Franklin W. Hardy-Boyce attends to his facial hair absent-mindedly as he reads the recent dispatches from the survey vessel Jules Verne. They are contained in a manila folder which is labelled in block letters:Project Red Herring.




OOC: ...except of course for 'the only gun worth having in Normandy' - the 18lb anti-tank gun. We also hope that responses will not be roleplayed in accordance with the recent findings of the United Nations' survey into the world's stupidest citizens.

To: Bodies Without Organs

The Jules Verne is irrelevant, given that it's in the Irish Sea, which isn't part of the Devils Desert except the part that comprises British coastal waters. The first transmission was sent to you in order that the second would make sense.

Clarification received. We have seen several 'pre-emptive' military actions in this conflict, and merely wished to assess the situation. Indra Prime, meanwhile, appears to have made a decision.


OOC: With regard to the current deployment of the Jules Verne, I have been operating on the assumption that a wide strip of international waters exists in the Irish Sea. This is where we operated the radio ship earlier in the thread, and no-one challenged it then. This comment is just directed at the thread as a whole...



Actually, in places it seems like theres less 50 miles separating GB and Ireland , meaning any international waters are a narrow band between, also some maps have a Ireland/UK division down middle of Irish Sea..

IC: Your radio ship was shadowed by a Sub, Lavallin is patrolling Irish sea, nothings moving without our watching :)

OOC: Just to clarify. The radio ship to which I refered was caught in a chemical weapons attack and towed back to port. It was the BSV Caitlin Costello and was gassed on RL 21st July. It was returned to port in BWO on RL 25th July. The survey ship Jules Verne is the ship currently in operation in international waters in the Irish Sea.

I am aware that the division between RL UK and Irish waters is merely a line without international waters. What I am claiming with reference to the earlier operation of the radio ship is precedent. No one challeneged the existence of international waters at the start of the thread, and so I consider that they _do_ exist in the Irish Sea.

If I follow you correctly you are operating a sub at an unknown distance from the survey ship in international waters in the Irish Sea. Lavallin is enforcing an exclusion zone throughout the Irish Sea which is prepared to destroy all BI forces and all those forces allied with BI (by one definition, by the other all forces which are not 32CIR forces or allied to them). The submarine appears to me to be operating within the exclusion zone which Lavallin is patrolling.

Have I read the situation correctly?

EDITED: added details about the radio ship and the dates of its last movements.

OOC: Since when did this become a pissing contest? I thought there was REAL RP going on in here for awhile, what happened to it? Now the entire REGION of Devil's Desert is in this? Since when?! I remember a core group of nations involved in the war, and now nations come and go as they please, flaunt their "obviously supreme" militaries, economies, allies, and trade agreements, and make this into a further muscle-flexing exercise. Sheesh people, no wonder the real world is so screwed up.

OOC: ...except of course for 'the only gun worth having in Normandy' - the 18lb anti-tank gun. We also hope that responses will not be roleplayed in accordance with the recent findings of the United Nations' survey into the world's stupidest citizens.

OOC: Mmmpphhh I hadn't thought to check others rankings on that... through my ranking as stupidiest in my region was at bottom and 65,xxxx
in the world ranking so its safe to say I guess I have smart people 8) 8)

I am aware that the division between RL UK and Irish waters is merely a line without international waters. What I am claiming with reference to the earlier operation of the radio ship is precedent. No one challeneged the existence of international waters at the start of the thread, and so I consider that they _do_ exist in the Irish Sea.

If I follow you correctly you are operating a sub at an unknown distance from the survey ship in international waters in the Irish Sea. Lavallin is enforcing an exclusion zone throughout the Irish Sea which is prepared to destroy all BI forces and all those forces allied with BI (by one definition, by the other all forces which are not 32CIR forces or allied to them). The submarine appears to me to be operating within the exclusion zone which Lavallin is patrolling.

Have I read the situation correctly?

EDITED: added details about the radio ship and the dates of its last movements.

OOC:
Probably there are international waters but if I read map right in places the distance between GB and Ireland is narrow, 50-less miles, 12/12= 24 Miles so in places any international waters would be a narrow line.. if distance is around 24 between... theres no international waters per se but touching borders. the Area between Scotland and Ireland is pretty narrow.

As To My forces, BI forces considering still a state of war if leave their waters and headed toward Ireland will certainty be attacked, other DD nation forces would not be allowed within our limits, and relistically, if we want peace I'd think neither would push it in irish sea which is exteemly active, I cant say for other 32 CIR but they would surely be also operating in Irish sea, in facr movement in it right now probably would not be easy.

I'm not at war with DD itself so not shooting at them unless enters 12 mile limits, also as with others as its occuring in r/l world we have an economic zone claim extending out past 12 mile.. actually I would say present day 12 mile limits are archaic in nature these days considering weapon distances and also seabead and economic (fishery) interests (USa-Canada has had its Grand Banks problems)

Do we really adher to R/L 12 mile limits in this game? Why couldn't I have a 25 Mile limit? :lol: :lol:

Indra Prime does not wish to get into hostilities with WV, BC, BI or any of their allies. All we want is the recovery of our people. Part of our fleet is a Peacekeeper ship that was sent to assist in the search for our people. We Will order the rest of the IPCBG to remain in International Waters far enough away from the coast so they won't cause any further tensions. All we ask is that you allow our ship the IPS Singularity Which although is a carrier its mission is to deliver the peacekeepers and the diplomats. It has no hostile intentions...nor do we. We do want to help but we also want to verify that BC is NOT trying to subversively rebuild BI's military or any of their other objectives with regard to Lord Stewert.

Finding nothing of interest on the seabed, but satisfied with the results of the experiments carried out with the new bathyscope, the Jules Verne thanks its escort ships and sets sail to rendezvous with its sister ships, the George Griffiths and the Herbert George Wells. Upon reaching these vessels, which report that the cloud of nuclear contaminated particles has almost entirely dispersed now, exchanges of crew take place and following contact with the BWO Geographical & Anthropological Society, it sets sail for Antarctic waters. It is reported to be destined for the Weddel Sea, in order to make control samples for the H. Rider Haggard and its arctic experiments.



OOC: as a ringer for Iceland, BWO is extremely aware of the issue of international waters and larger fishery claims. Does the phrase 'Cod War' ring a bell?

We the government of Dandoria located in the free republic of Eireann, would like to inform the brits that we will be sending over fathers jack hacket,and Dougal McGuire..that will confuse the feck out of you!!!! :mrgreen:

OOC:

Praise be to the memory of Dermot Monaghan (sp.). Father Ted rox0red.

And sorry this did turn into a "pissing contest" - however, I came into this thread expecting rational forces rather than irrational (hence, I'm not using bioweapons, space arrays, or genetically modified superhuman troops) and I guess I got kind of irked when it looked set to devolve into irrationality (for which I heartily apologise. I'm not one to mince words, OOCly).

IC:

<Transmission to all nations>
Whispering Voices wishes to assure all nations involved that, as long as the sanctity of the Devils Desert regional boundary is insured, so will the borders of the 32 Irish Nations. We prefer to fight inhumans rather than humans - we strongly believe that every human life is a life worth keeping until proven otherwise. However, this does at times involve a stern militaristic policy - hence our stance on absolutely no unauthorised traffic in our borders. Vyse's forces never technically crossed those borders, so we have no problem with them at this time.

<Transmission to Indra Prime, Bodies Without Organs>
The entrance of a carrier is unacceptable. Surely you have supply vessels and troop transports? Perhaps if more accurate details of what you wish to deploy are forwarded, more success will be had. By "Peacekeepers" do you mean United Nations-style soldiers, with nothing more than an armoured APC with a small-calibre emplacement? Or does the definition include tanks?

We the government of Dandoria located in the free republic of Eireann, would like to inform the brits that we will be sending over fathers jack hacket,and Dougal McGuire..that will confuse the feck out of you!!!! :mrgreen:


OOC: Ha! I have already deployed the dreaded Bishop Len Brennan on the very first page of the thread...

<Transmission to Indra Prime, Bodies Without Organs>
The entrance of a carrier is unacceptable. Surely you have supply vessels and troop transports? Perhaps if more accurate details of what you wish to deploy are forwarded, more success will be had. By "Peacekeepers" do you mean United Nations-style soldiers, with nothing more than an armoured APC with a small-calibre emplacement? Or does the definition include tanks?

IC: We consider the deployment of any foreign nationals upon the British Imperialist mainland an issue which must be resolved between Indra Prime and the government in exile of British Imperialism. We once again urge caution and patience.

<Transmission to Bodies Without Organs>

We're not going to give permission to enter British Imperialism. However, as our fiefdom is working extensively with other forces to clear up the mainland of rebels, we wish to know what it is Indra Prime hopes to send.

<Transmission to Bodies Without Organs>

We're not going to give permission to enter British Imperialism. However, as our fiefdom is working extensively with other forces to clear up the mainland of rebels, we wish to know what it is Indra Prime hopes to send.

To clarify: BWO is not seeking to send any of its nationals into the British Imperialist mainland or its territorial waters. Our people continue to operate British Imperialist oilrigs off the north-eastern coast of BI's equivalent to Scotland.

Upon Whispering Voice's request we have issued our position: that we consider the question of Indra Prime deployments one which is between Indra Prime and the legitimate government in exile of British Imperialism. We hope that the current relatively cordial relations between all nations involved will not be harmed by recent developments.

We need a reply from the British Imperialism Government within 24 four hours so we can maintain our timetable. If not then we may have to proceed. When the time is up we will deliberate further and decide a course of action. We need to recover our people.

Robert Smith
Deputy Director of Defense

Her Majesties Government does not see the need for more warships to enter waters surrounding our nation. We would allow a flotilla of unarmed vessels to procure your forces. We ask that you reconsider you plan to bring such a force and potentially cause harm to the delicate process of peace.

Sir Ethan George Ministry of Foreign Affairs British Imperialism

***

Meanwhile, in an almost empty ward in a BWO hospital:

As Prince Enrique and Ms. Chinaski talk the figure in the bed before them starts to give signs which might indicate they are coming round. Olga Chinaski winces in pain as she digs into the pocket of her cardigan and pulls out a large ornamental key. On it hangs a tag which reads 'Official Residence of the Governor and Chairman of the Executive council'. She shows it to the Prince and then tosses it into the recumbent Mr. Forsyth's lap.


***


Forsyth cracks open his eyes and asks"Where am I?"

Forsyth cracks open his eyes and asks"Where am I?"

Chinaski looks up for her papers and says: "Ah, that famous line... you're in hospital in BWO. We believe you suffered a couple of fractures when the shockwave from the explosion hit the Chinook you were in. It appears that the craft was protected from the worst horrors of the attack by the steep cliffs that separated the bay it had landed in from New Tiger's Bay. The doctors don't believe you have received much radiation - no more than you would get wearing a luminous watch for the rest of your life, but it is hard to tell these things. Do you wish to contact your people? I believe they have been informed of your survival." Her eyes dart towards Forsyth's mobile phone which rests by his bed as she says this. "Everyone else appears to have got away from the attack relatively unscathed, except for the Indra Prime representatives - they remain unaccounted for, but apparently health monitors they were wearing stopped broadcasting at the time of detonation."

She pauses for a moment, and then decides it is best if she just fills in the representative for British Imperialism in one big dump: "We were targeted by four Tomahawk missiles launched from a derelict BI cruiser in the North Atlantic. Three of them were brought down, but one made it through - 220 kiloton warhead. We give our thanks that we relocated the conference to such a sparsely occupied region, but still our human cost has been great. Lavallin forces investigated the derelict and found dead civilians on board. It seems that it was more of Stewart/Stuart's handy work."

She nods her head towards the key which she has tossed into Mr. Forsyth's lap. "In the meantime, we have a proposition to make - trading one of your Colonial holdings that we liberated for some information. It will, of course, be confidential."

The Carrier Carrying the Peacekeepers and our Diplomats is not armed with the carriers normal weapons. There are some small arms aboard for protection but that is why we sent our IPCBG, for protection of our peacekeepers and diplomats. The troops aboard are similar to the UN troops but a little more armed but nothing approaching Tanks. We have APC aboard the Carrier but those are not amphibious. We do have short range landing craft aboard the IPS Singularity. I say again they are not a war ship merely a carrier transport that has the ability to be activated BACK at IP shipyards.

The Carrier Carrying the Peacekeepers and our Diplomats is not armed with the carriers normal weapons. There are some small arms aboard for protection but that is why we sent our IPCBG, for protection of our peacekeepers and diplomats. The troops aboard are similar to the UN troops but a little more armed but nothing approaching Tanks. We have APC aboard the Carrier but those are not amphibious. We do have short range landing craft aboard the IPS Singularity. I say again they are not a war ship merely a carrier transport that has the ability to be activated BACK at IP shipyards.

OOC:When the vessel is called a battle carrier people do tend to infer certain things. You might wish to state exactly what is aboard your vessel.
We would like to continue the peace process and a continuation of conflict off our coast is not what we wish at this time.

The Base model of that ship IS a Battle Carrier. However this one has been modified as a command and control center for the Peacekeeping Operations whenever our Peacekeepers are required. We only have a small defense force aboard the ship but nothing like tanks or heavy armored vehicles with the exception of the APCs. All of ou heavier tech is aboard the other ships of the flotilla, In case they were needed. The carrier CAN be reinstated as a Battle Carrier but only at our local shipyards.

I will leave the decision to allow your vessel into territorial waters to Whispering Voices. They shall have the final say.

Forsyth cracks open his eyes and asks"Where am I?"

Chinaski looks up for her papers and says: "Ah, that famous line... you're in hospital in BWO. We believe you suffered a couple of fractures when the shockwave from the explosion hit the Chinook you were in. It appears that the craft was protected from the worst horrors of the attack by the steep cliffs that separated the bay it had landed in from New Tiger's Bay. The doctors don't believe you have received much radiation - no more than you would get wearing a luminous watch for the rest of your life, but it is hard to tell these things. Do you wish to contact your people? I believe they have been informed of your survival." Her eyes dart towards Forsyth's mobile phone which rests by his bed as she says this. "Everyone else appears to have got away from the attack relatively unscathed, except for the Indra Prime representatives - they remain unaccounted for, but apparently health monitors they were wearing stopped broadcasting at the time of detonation."

She pauses for a moment, and then decides it is best if she just fills in the representative for British Imperialism in one big dump: "We were targeted by four Tomahawk missiles launched from a derelict BI cruiser in the North Atlantic. Three of them were brought down, but one made it through - 220 kiloton warhead. We give our thanks that we relocated the conference to such a sparsely occupied region, but still our human cost has been great. Lavallin forces investigated the derelict and found dead civilians on board. It seems that it was more of Stewart/Stuart's handy work."

She nods her head towards the key which she has tossed into Mr. Forsyth's lap. "In the meantime, we have a proposition to make - trading one of your Colonial holdings that we liberated for some information. It will, of course, be confidential."

"I really must get in contact with her Majesty soon. But I am listening. What is your proposition?"

Cardinal Schmidt's helicopter, having refuelled, heads for the south via hops on Whispering Voices ships.

<Tranmission to Indra Prime, Bodies Without Organs>
As the decision has been left in our hands, we refuse entry to the Peacekeeping force - simply because it is that, a force. However, we will endeavour to have forces we control on the ground work with you - if you send details of who or what it is you're looking for, we can correlate with data from our surveillance planes.

The identities of our personnel are classified. Sorry. How about we offer a compromise. We will allow WV to come aboard our ship in International Waters and you can see that they will offer no threat to WV, BI or anyone allied with them. Please Consider our offer and reconsider your position.

BI, it is imperative that we find our people immediately. We cannot Divulge their Identities cause it would endanger many many lives. You have our promise that we will engage in no hostile acts while in your territory.

"I really must get in contact with her Majesty soon. But I am listening. What is your proposition?"

"We want all information you can get on your cloning programme, anything, any scrap of paper or archived email, receipts, requisition forms - the works: even if it's a dirty tissue, we want it. We have the patience and people to deal with these things. We want that and we want it as soon as possible. We also want all information you have on any scandals or issues which created ill-feelings in the higher echelons of your armed forces in the last ten or so years. That and a list of all high ranking officers who have left the force in recent years. We know that we have shared interests in seeing this rogue faction brought down, and we do not want to appear to be threatening, but it would be a shame if our forces were to leave the Islas Malvinas undefended at this point in time when British Imperialism is unable to protect them. We believe that other countries close to that location still harbour old territorial desires... however, we only bring up this point to encourage you to pull as many strings and call in as many old favours as possible when gathering information for us. It would be unfortunate if your place in the history books was marred by your loss of a 200 year old colony. We wish to see stability return to the world. Contact your people, see what you can do, and we wil maintain our protection of your colony."

"We wish for the same. I shall get on the horn with my office immediately and get my office working on gathering the requested information.. It should take some time but we will get what we can for you. The recent attack will show her Majesty that we must work with the nations invovled to put an end to the atrocities commited by these rogue factions."

"Excellent, you have the key to the Governor's official residence there and your sovereignty remains unthreatened, we will, however, maintain a moderate defensive presence around the colony until such time as the British Imperialist Royal Navy is ready to take on the responsibility once again. We await any information which is forthcoming," says Ms. Chinaski. She shuffles the papers in her lap and presses a button to summon an orderly, before continuing, "I will take my leave of you and the Prince now, I am sure you have much to discuss."


***

Official request to Lavallin: The nation of BWO is, despite earlier misunderstandings which may have occurred, very interested in the findings from the derelict AEGIS cruiser which is believed to have launched the attack on the peace conference. We would not be happy to promote the instigation of any further conference until we better understand the modus operandi of those which called such an abrupt end to the last one. We do not wish to see a repeat of such a tragedy. We believe that another such disruption and any following recriminations could push an already tense situation over the edge.


***

Shipping news: The BWO survey vessel Jack London reports that during her survey of saltwater eels at the mouth of the Mediterranean she has suffered persistent engine troubles. The root cause of the problem has been identified, but a visit to the repair facilities at the Suez Canal is necessary to replace the faulty propeller shaft housings which have disrupted her scientific work. A general call to all her sister ships to carry out investigations of their own mountings has been sent out. It is hoped that the production of the much anticipated BWOTV special on saltwater eels will not be delayed greatly.

<Transmission to Indra Prime>
<CC: Bodies Without Organs>
<From Cardinal Matthias Schmidt, Diocesal Administration>

We are taking advice on the matter. However, whilst we acknowledge every country's desire to protect the identities of its undercover operatives and special forces, we have to question why - if Indra Prime truly desires peace - they do not reveal the identities or at least probable locations of such people, in the interests of said persons being rescued or relocated as soon as possible. Indeed, were Indra Prime Lavallin, we would suspect some attempt at recovering a Geneva-convention breaking armament or a WMD that has not yet been deployed and is MIA.

Once a decision has been made - and you are once again encouraged to forward relevant data on the matter - we will inform you post-haste, and take up the offer of inspecting that ship.

19:45 EST

"we've found him sir" The SAS Lieutenant Bluted out, he was soaking wet and it showed, even if it was only on the vid-screen projected against the wall of General Steven's Briefing room. Stevens was there Along with several Senior officers.


"Are you sure?, your positive its him?!" General Stevens was on his feet, staring intently at the screen.
"All blood and DNA matches exactly, He had his Bodyguards with him" The Lieutenant Replied " we had hope to take at least one alive"

"Doesn't matter Lieutenant, They weren't priorities" Stevens said
almost Grinning.

The lieutenant went on, " Hes at HMS Minden as we speak where Colonel willis is waiting for you"

"DON'T start until I get there!, I'll be there in five" Stevens headed out of the Briefing room

I've got you Stewert!, right were i want you Stevens Headed to The chinook Utter Determination On his face

Madb Powers, currently on tour in the nation of BWO, raises her arms and her ample cleavage heaves as she fills the concert hall with the unrestrained power of her lungs. The shamrock badge upon her chest glitters in the stage lights, and the ceilidh band behind her pull out great swathes of emotion from their instruments. The crowd watches with rapt attention and palpable anticipation as the diva reaches effortlessly for the soaring high notes of the old Celtic air:

"...the pipes, the pipes are calling,
Across the hills and glen to gleeeEEERACHHHHAARRRRGHHHHH!"

The bullet penetrates the skin of her forehead, smashes through her temples and pulverises her right frontal lobe. It encounters resistance as it crushes her thalamus and its trajectory is directed downwards through the pineal gland and into the cerebellum. The rear of her skull explodes in a flash of thick vitreous blood and shards of fractured bone. Her legs buckle and collapse almost instantly as her hands continue to claw at the air. Her heavy body impacts against the uillean piper and sends him reeling. Wails and drones continue to emit from his instrument as he struggles to come to terms with what has just happened. Madb Powers' legs start to kick spasmodically and her screeching fills the auditorium.

The famous soprano's final phrases are not, however, sufficient to drown out the cries of shock from the audience. They are punctuated and encouraged by further automatic rifle fire. A stampede for the exits begins as the musician's rhythm track continues to play through the house PA from its reel-to-reel tape machine offstage. A metal object the size of a balled fist flies through the air above the panicking crowd. The hand grenade explodes in the orchestra pit, sending showers of shrapnel into the concert hall and thick clouds of choking smoke into the air.

The shooting continues as the audience rush for the doors. Several people lose their footing and are crushed beneath the press of bodies rushing for safety. Bullets splatter through sparkling evening dresses and carefully pressed dinner jackets. The automatic sprinklers in the roof of the theatre trigger as a result of the smoke from the explosion. Another grenade tumbles through the air and lands in the midst of the crowd. One man tries to pick it up and cast it away, but he is pushed down by urgent feet and the device detonates in his hands...

...the shooting continues until police arrive to find a room reeking of carnage. Within the heaps of still warm corpses they find the body of one young man still clutching an empty assault rifle in one hand. His other hand holds a pistol which points to the remains of his head. The body is identified as Michael Ellis. In his pocket is a scrawled note blaming the subhuman Irish for what they have done to him.

We do desire peace. However, If the identities of our agents are compromised, then we would have lost some very valuable assets. Not only that but they have information regarding subterfuge that is occuring in BI which I think you might be interested in. We have no aims at recovering WMDs or any form of armament that has been in sole control of BI and her Allies. But please note that we must recover our people in a very short time or we may miss the opportunity to prevent some possible attacks in the very near future.

"We want all information you can get on your cloning programme, anything, any scrap of paper or archived email, receipts, requisition forms - the works: even if it's a dirty tissue, we want it. We have the patience and people to deal with these things. We want that and we want it as soon as possible. We also want all information you have on any scandals or issues which created ill-feelings in the higher echelons of your armed forces in the last ten or so years. That and a list of all high ranking officers who have left the force in recent years. We know that we have shared interests in seeing this rogue faction brought down, and we do not want to appear to be threatening, but it would be a shame if our forces were to leave the Islas Malvinas undefended at this point in time when British Imperialism is unable to protect them. We believe that other countries close to that location still harbour old territorial desires... however, we only bring up this point to encourage you to pull as many strings and call in as many old favours as possible when gathering information for us. It would be unfortunate if your place in the history books was marred by your loss of a 200 year old colony. We wish to see stability return to the world. Contact your people, see what you can do, and we wil maintain our protection of your colony."


Forsyth leans back on the pillow his strength fading as he talks on the phone and writes notes frantically. He soon has filled up, most of the pad with furious scribbles related to the phone conversation. After quite some time he puts the phone away and catches his breath. "Ms. Chinaski I believe that we have been able to gather some of the information you require. It appears that the Prime Minister had set 5 major cloning reasearch facilities. 1 Major in BI located in New London in a secure underground facility, 1 Major in Johannesburg South Africa in a secure Military facility. The locations of the other 3 are still being sought. We believe them to be in Australia, Gibralter, and the Sudan. My office has found a number of clues leading to the transfer of both samples and researchers to the foreign facilites months prior to the start of hostilities. More troubling is the fact that one of the Researchers transfered is one Dr. Hamilton Chamberlain . Up until a few years ago merely a Professor at Oxford, but with the acceptance of clonig by her Majesties Government he rose to the position of head researcher. He sent requests to the Parliament and the Prime Minister on a number of occasions for funding of his pet project. " Forsyth shuffles through the pad , glancing over the scribbles for the important piece of information he sought. "Ah yes here it is. His project was to take the DNA of great British leaders of the past and clone them for the future glory of British Imperialism. Such names as Cromwell, Churchill, Montgomery, Nelson, Richard III, Raleigh, Drake, Wingate to name but a few. The collected DNA is veritable who's who of British legends. I shudder to think what could happen if it has worked. We are still working on your other query but so far it looks as if a great many military officers from the prior conflicts harbored great anger for how they were treated by the Irish. As I said we are still working on this.." He looks at Ms. Chinaski.

If it is possible for a pushed wheelchair to screech to a halt, then that is what Ms. Chinaski's wheelchair did. She stared aghast at the prone form of Mr. Forsyth as he casually relayed his findings. She took a deep breath and said, "Very well. Another disturbing development - as soon as we think we know where we stand another twist hits us. So, the British Imperialism cloning project appears to be strong believers in nature over nurture then. It is good that such potential talent is still being held back by Stuart - 'Lions lead by donkeys', indeed. It looks like we shall have to accelerate our plans. You still have reported 100% loyalty in your armed forces in Australia, don't you? Hmmm, I had considered that a safe territory. The interior is still littered with the remains of airfields and depots from when they feared the encroachment of the Greater East Asia Coprosperity Sphere during the Second World War, is it not? It will be troublesome to locate anything there. We have no resources in that area. I think the antipodes must be British Imperialism's responsibility."

She chews her lip for a moment and then says to herself, "I think it may be time for BWO to hold its council of war." and begins furiously dialing numbers on her clunky mobile phone.

She looks up form the keypad and asks "I assume the Ghurkas have remained loyal to your government and the crown, no? If we can convince people to fight alongside them then I would advise the pride of Nepal to start sharpening their kukris..."

"And another thing, if your people have a King Arthur sleeping anywhere, cloned or not, ready to wake whenever England needs him, I would strongly advise them to boot him out of bed and hand him Excalibur."

Shipping News: The international rumour mill reports that two carrier battlegroups, registered in ports located in the nations of Cuba and Georgia have recently emerged from the Weddel Sea off the coast of the British Antartic territories. They appear to be travelling at high speed eastwards just outside the Antartic circle. Colonel Jesus Ernesto Cienfuegos Fernandez Clemente is believed to be commanding one battlegroup, and Kapitan Valeri Kvachantiradze is reported to be at the helm of the other. They are rumoured to be accompanied by the BWO survey vessel Jules Verne.

A snippet from today's super soaraway BWO Daily Review:

SNIPER KILLS 48 IN DOWNTOWN HABIANA

48 men, women and children are reported dead following the three hour reign of terror inflicted by a sniper in Habiana. Police report that the lone gunman was seen to ascend into the suspension cables of the Hekklestein River bridge, and started shooting at passersbys and pedestrians enjoying the sunset. It is believed that a 29 year old young man is now in custody after police marksmen incapacitated him and his rifle fell from his hands and onto the main thoroughfare of the bridge twenty metres bellow his perch.

Official sources have denied that he is in any way linked with the recent carnage at the Madb Power's concert in Holograd, but insiders report that he served alongside Michael Ellis on board the BSV Alexander Berkman during the mobilisation of the volunteer International Brigade. There have been speculations that Ellis's rampage was merely the result of post-traumatic stress disorder, but today's incident calls into question the government’s hands-off attitude to the whole Alexander Berkman affair.

No reports have been forthcoming from official sources regarding the friendly fire incident wherein BWO nationals ready to fight for the sovereignty of 32CIR were savagely beaten and abused by Irishmen on board a flag flying undisclosed Irish colours. Casualties of the incident were officially reported as 78, but 35 are still listed as missing, presumed dead. A government spokesperson informed the Daily Review reporter at the scene of the sniper’s attacks that a response would be issued ‘in good time’.

Witnesses at the arrest of the sniper report that he was shouting a string of obscenities and anti-Irish slurs. Taste prevents us reproducing this quote here, but it is printed in full! on page 5.

Pictures: pages 3 & 4, main article: page 5, leader column: page 23.

Shipping News:
Ships passing through the Suez Canal have reported repeated sightings of several submarines of unknown model and nationality in the Straits of Jubal. Their intentions remain unknown, but they have not interfered with civilian traffic. One unsubstantiated report from a tramp steamer tells of crewmembers being passed by zodiac between one such surfaced vessel which was tentatively described as belonging to the Kilo class and a craft which may have been the BWO survey ship Jack London.

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Specialist Williams sits at his console as he passes along information to Mr. Forsyth" Yes Sir we have SAS teams on the ground in Australia looking into that possibility. And yes the Ghurkas ar still loyal to the crown. Because of political changes in Europe, the British Army presence in now comprises a District Headquarters, the British Imperialism Support Command (Nepal) and the 1st (BI) Armoured Division which has its headquarters at Kathmandu. This Headquarters commands three armoured brigades located at Rapti, Bheri and Lumbini It is the most powerful division in the British Army and is equipped with 300 Challenger tanks, 275 Warrior Armoured Personnel Carriers, 96 self-propelled AS-90 howitzers and 18 Multiple Launched Rocket Systems (MLRS).

The BI Rapid Reaction Corps (ARRC), with headquarters in Bagmati. The British Army provides over 60% of the headquarters staff and two of the 10 division available to the Corps. This amounts to a total commitment of 55,000 troops, with just under half based in Nepal. That situation appears to be under control as Major General Prescott is completely loyal to the Queen. We are still looking into your other questions Sir and should have answers to you soon."




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"Mr Forsyth Sir we have SAS on the ground now and they have uncovered signs of occupation in recent months. But Sir we have no signs of occupation during the present conflict. Information gathered seems to llead to a general movement the Africa. We will continue the search Sir."


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"Sir we have located a previously unknown base near Perth. Units are moving in as we speak. "

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"Sir we have reports that the troops are under fire from unknown hostiles. Moving additional reinforcements in, Force is authorized proceed with exttreme caution."

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"Sir the situation has come under control. Faciltiy has been secured all hostiles have been terminated. No prisoners were taken. Hostiles killed themselves before any could be captured. Units report a heretofore unknown cloning facility with numerous unfinished clones. Looks as if only 2 were completed before we located it. Units on the ground are working up a full report. Will do Sir. You will have it as soon as we do. Aye Sir."

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He sits back and wonders when he shift is going to end before returning to the massive amounts of infomation gathering in front of him.

OOC: furious flipping through an atlas looking for a map of Nepal ensues...

OOC: we need a response ASAP from both Vyse and Whispering Voices.

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And to WV: As of yesterday our fleet has been called to other assignments. However, we will leave the IPS Singularity and one of our small frigates to protect her. The rest of the IPCBG has been called away. This should be a good sight for yall and you should reconsider your stance against our entering BI waters to recover our people. We have come part way...you should do the same.

Robert Smith
Deputy Director of Defense

<Transmission to Indra Prime, Bodies Without Organs, British Imperialism>
<CC to Vyse, British Commonwealth, Tarrican, Santa Barbara, Austrin-Ontis, Thulackack>

Indra Prime, we will do as asked and offer the following compromise:

1) Murderous Tendencies to inspect the Singularity and accompanying frigate.
2) Murderous Tendencies "Ha-Zahi" special forces to accompany the Indra Prime peacekeepers during their mission. This is to ensure that rogue British Imperialism elements don't manage to kill said Peacekeepers and frame Murderous Tendencies for said deaths.

<Transmission to Indra Prime, Bodies Without Organs, British Imperialism>
<CC to Vyse, British Commonwealth, Tarrican, Santa Barbara, Austrin-Ontis, Thulackack>

Indra Prime, we will do as asked and offer the following compromise:

1) Murderous Tendencies to inspect the Singularity and accompanying frigate.
2) Murderous Tendencies "Ha-Zahi" special forces to accompany the Indra Prime peacekeepers during their mission. This is to ensure that rogue British Imperialism elements don't manage to kill said Peacekeepers and frame Murderous Tendencies for said deaths.

We hope they can agree to this reasonable solution.

We can agree upon this with one exception. We must have a small time period where we can recover our people with out the divulgence of our peoples identities. Say 12 hours the first day. Then afterwards we will hook up with the MTSFs. Our Diplomats and most of our PK forces will remain with the group throughout the entire mission but we will need to evac our people currently in the area with a platoon of out Soldiers on a small Amphibious APC. From there they will return to the Singularity and will remain aboard until the rest of our forces complete their mission. We thank you for your cooperation.

Robert Smith
Deputy Director of Defense

Cardinal Mattias grouches as he reads the latest transmission from Indra Prime.

"Do they think we're mad? Of course we're not going to let potential hostiles unobserved into a warzone."

<Transmission to Indra Prime, Bodies Without Organs, British Imperialism>

They'd be followed anyway. If you want to protect their identities, have them wear bags on their heads. Allowing people to go armed into a warzone from a nation which has already shown itself to be potentially hostile would be insanity on our part.

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"Mr. Forsyth we have located the cloning facility in the Sudan. Sat imaging has placed it in this corporate park near Khartoum. We have noted a large number of military equipment in the area and from decoded communications have determined the collusion of the Sudan People's Liberation Army and the rogue BI units. We place the numbers at 20,000 sudanese nationals armed mainly with surplus soviet arms and some light armored vehicles. Most are encamped around the nearby airport and the cloning facility. We are monitoring communications and shall inform you of further developments. The surveillance photos are being emailed as we speak Sir. Yes Sir we are working on that. As soon as possible Sir. We're on it Sir. Yes SAS are monitoring on the ground. Later Sir."

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If we get attacked then we will not blame MT, WV, BI for the deaths of our peacekeepers. And a further point we have not shown any agressive moves towards the aforementioned nations. Our IPCBG was only there to protect our people. As you can see, you can see our ships have left the area and you have nothing to worry about from them. We have graced enough up to this point. We do not need an escort for our people. And as I said before, we will NOT blame the other nations unless there is presentable evidence that they were the attackers. Were sure that we will not get into hostile situations.

"

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Official request to Lavallin: The nation of BWO is, despite earlier misunderstandings which may have occurred, very interested in the findings from the derelict AEGIS cruiser which is believed to have launched the attack on the peace conference. We would not be happy to promote the instigation of any further conference until we better understand the modus operandi of those which called such an abrupt end to the last one. We do not wish to see a repeat of such a tragedy. We believe that another such disruption and any following recriminations could push an already tense situation over the edge.


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Official Reply:

You would be best served to send someone in an official capacity to view and copy anything we have, there are items we do not think safe to send by normal means, so a secure courier or a delegation would be wiser

<Message to Whispering Voices>
<CC to Bodies Without Organs, Vyse King of Rogues, Lavallin, British Imperialism, British Commonwealth>

We would allow an observer fom BWO or Vyse King of Rogues in our mission, If an observer is absolutely necessary.

"

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Official request to Lavallin: The nation of BWO is, despite earlier misunderstandings which may have occurred, very interested in the findings from the derelict AEGIS cruiser which is believed to have launched the attack on the peace conference. We would not be happy to promote the instigation of any further conference until we better understand the modus operandi of those which called such an abrupt end to the last one. We do not wish to see a repeat of such a tragedy. We believe that another such disruption and any following recriminations could push an already tense situation over the edge.


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Official Reply:

You would be best served to send someone in an official capacity to view and copy anything we have, there are items we do not think safe to send by normal means, so a secure courier or a delegation would be wiser

Wilco.
We will direct the survey ship Herbert George Wells into one of your ports. We believe the scientific observors on board should be able to serve as a make-do delegation. There are several members of the BWO Geographical & Anthropological Society on the vessel, and they have impeccable reputations. We will invest one of them with a temporary BWO coast guard rank sufficient to work with your people.

If we get attacked then we will not blame MT, WV, BI for the deaths of our peacekeepers. And a further point we have not shown any agressive moves towards the aforementioned nations. Our IPCBG was only there to protect our people. As you can see, you can see our ships have left the area and you have nothing to worry about from them. We have graced enough up to this point. We do not need an escort for our people. And as I said before, we will NOT blame the other nations unless there is presentable evidence that they were the attackers. Were sure that we will not get into hostile situations.

<Transmission to involved parties>

That meets our first requirement, but not our second - which is that military units would be unsupervised within our region, in a war zone. One way or another, those peacekeepers would be tracked - so it might as well be with people who can help protect them in the event of trouble. Which seems likely, given the attack on the peace conference.

<transmission to Whispering Voices>
<transmission from Indra Prime>

<RE: IPPK trooop movements>

We would allow WV or BI to track their movements via satellite and they could have a unit trailing them at a distance of about 5 miles or so, so in case there were any problems that arose they could be there in a matter of minutes. We are only trying to keep the identities of our operatives a secret. This is the only way we can do this. We have no other choice open to us. So we hope you will be gracious enough to allow this compromise to take effect.

Robert Smith
Deputy Director of Defense
Indra Prime

<To: Indra Prime>
<From: Cardinal Matthias>

If you must protect their identities, have them wear helmets. It's easily arranged. Or carrier bags.

<transmission to Whispering Voices>
<transmission from Indra Prime>

Please just remain behind our forces. All we need is a distance between our people so we can recover our operatives without interference from you or your allies. If you give us this we will be out of the way and you will not have to worry about the military issue. We would have them out within 24 hours of point of Incursion. Please acknowledge Post Haste for every hour our people are behind enemy lines. As we said before, this information is incredibly sensitive and DOES, I say again, does have an impact on you. It would be in your best interest to let us make land fall and retrieve our men.

Robert Smith
Deputy Director of Defense
Indra Prime

If the gracious Cardinal Matthias would allow our retrieval squad to go in and get our men we would have them out in less than a day without any incidents. We keep our operative's locations classified until the day of retrieval so we can assure a lack of attack against our people. We are taking every precaution that we possibly can. We are even bringing in one of our Cruisers from its duty from one of our outer systems to monitor the activity of our troops and make sure everything moves without a hitch.

<To: Indra Prime, BWO, British Imperialism, all Devils Desert nations involved>
<From: Cardinal Matthias Schmidt>

You have leave to retrieve your operatives. You will be tailed by Murderous Tendencies special operatives at a distance of two kilometres. However, full searches will be conducted on your team of Peacekeepers before they are permitted entrance to British Imperialism.

Please do not attempt to move space assets into orbit above the Devils' Desert, as this will result in the same thing as naval assets did.

<To: Indra Prime, BWO, British Imperialism, all Devils Desert nations involved>
<From: Cardinal Matthias Schmidt>

You have leave to retrieve your operatives. You will be tailed by Murderous Tendencies special operatives at a distance of two kilometres. However, full searches will be conducted on your team of Peacekeepers before they are permitted entrance to British Imperialism.

Please do not attempt to move space assets into orbit above the Devils' Desert, as this will result in the same thing as naval assets did.

Access Acknowledged. We will comply. The IPS Singularity is moving in as we speak toward to coast and will heave to to be searched and our operatives will be out of harms way within 24 hours. The Cruiser has been halted and is returning to active duty in Triangulum. We thank you sincerely for your cooperation.

Robert Smith
Deputy Director of Defense
Indra Prime

Lt. Col. Trevelyan (retrd) wakes up with a start.
"Sorry about dozing off, old boy... my heart isn't so happy with the shocks as it used to be. How long have I been asleep? And how much has been done while I was out?"

"You were unconscious for a number of days, sir." replies the sargeant of his bodyguards. "You heart had been heavily strained and the doctors thought you should get some rest, so you got some sleeping-pills from the doc."
"I could have relaxed perfectly well while concious, you know."
"Yes sir, but your wife didn't believe that you would, which is why she ordered the doctors to sedate you for a while."
"Ordered?"
"Ordered."
"Well then there isn't much I can do about marital fiat, even if I could turn back time. We'll discuss it when I get home, but until then you'd better get me a resume on what has been happening. And a meal, a nice big meal." He thinks for a few moments more. "And thinking about it, a bed pan, too."

OOC
Am back now. Will catch up soon.

As the IPS Singularity cuts through open waters her radar picks up a fast moving object approaching from the Bow.

"Commander, get the Special Forces below decks. It seems that Whispering Voices took us up on our offer to search the ship. Whatever happens, they MUST not find our Elite Forces aboard this ship. We told them this was a peaceful recovery of our men and the deployment of our Peacekeepers."

Commander Fletching saluted the Admiral."Aye aye sir. They will never find them." The Commander does an abrupt about face and heads off to find the Phoenix Team.

Admiral Benett looked back at the radar screen and mused. "They better not find them or it will be your head. This part of the operation is the most crucial point out of the entire campaign. Lieutenant, I though I told you to organize a welcoming party. They need to see us as a friendly."

"Yessir, I'm working on it."

"Well work faster. They will be here shortly."

<Message to Whispering Voices>
<CC to Bodies Without Organs, Vyse King of Rogues, Lavallin, British Imperialism, British Commonwealth>

We would allow an observer fom BWO or Vyse King of Rogues in our mission, If an observer is absolutely necessary.

An observer will not be necessary from us, however, we remind you to tread lightly. If you antagonize WV, it'll be your own fault, and you'll be on your own. So be careful.

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"Mr. Forsyth we have located the cloning facility in the Sudan. Sat imaging has placed it in this corporate park near Khartoum. We have noted a large number of military equipment in the area and from decoded communications have determined the collusion of the Sudan People's Liberation Army and the rogue BI units. We place the numbers at 20,000 sudanese nationals armed mainly with surplus soviet arms and some light armored vehicles. Most are encamped around the nearby airport and the cloning facility. We are monitoring communications and shall inform you of further developments. The surveillance photos are being emailed as we speak Sir. Yes Sir we are working on that. As soon as possible Sir. We're on it Sir. Yes SAS are monitoring on the ground. Later Sir."

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The sergeant major scanned the perimeter of the base with his binoculars, observing the patrols around it. After getting a good look at the defenses, he put the binos away and got out his weaponry. This was a special Blue Rogues unit-a demo squad. 10 out of 12 of the team were armed with LOTS of explosives. These ten soldiers pulled out their mini-mortars and set them up. The other two BRs were snipers, given the job of making sure their enemy equivilant did not pick off the explosion boys. The entire team was concealed in the tall grass, and they were also wearing camo suits. With all the firepower available to them, the team was just meant to give the enemy a wake up call, something to keep them awake at night. The base was surrounded by a cavalry division, about a half a mile back. The team's job was to wear the enemy down, both in body and in spirit. The smaj gave the order,"Fire." Ten mortar shells smashed into machine-gun nests and gaurd houses. The terror war had begun.

Shipping News: Rumours of the unexpected appearance of two carrier battlegroups sighted briefly resupplying from Chinese registered vessels several miles east of Mauritius have been discredited. The BWO survey vessel Jules Verne was operating in the area at the time and sent out no reports of any unidentified vessels. The claim that these two phantom battlegroups then headed north towards the Seychelles has also been disproven, as the BWO survey vessel moved along exactly that course as part of its investigation into the effects of recent nuclear detonations on plankton in the Indian Ocean. The Jules Verne is believed to be destined for the southern reaches of the Red Sea as it continues its valuable scientific work.

The Indra Prime vessel is rapidly surrounded by submarines and missile-bearing launches whilst a support and analysis ship - the Warm Nights moves up and despatches several more launches to liaise with it - it is under heavy surveillance, especially for submarinal launches.

The Murderous Tendencies crew, when they arrive, look to be special operatives. It's something in the harder, more self-reliant pose than that possessed by normal soldiers. Their visored battle armour obscures their faces, and they wear gloves; however, a small group of scientists and Excise officers accompany them, teeth white and smiling in dark-skinned faces.

The leader of the group, a middle-aged woman with a bureaucrat's smile and a firm grip, greets the Indra Prime captain ...

"I'm Nari Mhe'Zahid, operational commander here. Pleased to meet you. Now, in the interests of efficiency, the Trahim here will need to be shown every room in your ship, whilst we," she gestures to the non-military personnel - "inspect those you wish to send."

As the IPS Singularity is surrounded tensions among the crew rise to a level that is almost palpable. With a scurry of activity on board the ship The Senior Officers of the Mission march out onto the Flight Deck in dress unforms to meet the delegation that is about to arrive.

"We bring you greetings from the Senior Director of Indra Prime. I am Fleet Admiral Johann Benett, commander of this battlegroup. May I introduce Captain Harold Green commander of this ship, Commander Fred Johnson, and Lt. Commander William Stryker. This is Lt. Colonel Samuel Dafee, the leader of the Indra Prime Peacekeepers that we intend to send in. As per my instructions, he is prepared to send in one unit to retrieve our operatives and lead the rest to the Investigation site in accordance to our agreement."

Meanwhile below decks

In a bustle of activity, The Indra Prime Elite, Phoenix Team is preparing their disguises as lowly crewmembers if the IPS Singularity

"Colonel! You need to stow these weapons NOW! The delegation has arrived and will be down here in minutes. GET IT DONE!"

Colonel Will Rachlin, disguised as a midshipman, sends a disgusted look at the Admiral's Aide.

"Get off my back, Commander. The only reason youre here is because you have learned the art to Suck up to those in Power. Let me and my men handle our own problems. And to rest your little wearied mind, we will have these weapons stowed in a few seconds. There will be no trace of them for their technicians to find. They are looking for contemporary munitions, but they could not predict what would come out of DTRI.Get out of my face now so we won't be caught by them."
<to his squad>
"Lets move it men! You have 60 Seconds to get your equipment to storage bofore it is sealed. If you fail, I will kill you myself. Now MOVE IT!!!"

As the IPS Singularity is surrounded tensions among the crew rise to a level that is almost palpable. With a scurry of activity on board the ship The Senior Officers of the Mission march out onto the Flight Deck in dress unforms to meet the delegation that is about to arrive.

"We bring you greetings from the Senior Director of Indra Prime. I am Fleet Admiral Johann Benett, commander of this battlegroup. May I introduce Captain Harold Green commander of this ship, Commander Fred Johnson, and Lt. Commander William Stryker. This is Lt. Colonel Samuel Dafee, the leader of the Indra Prime Peacekeepers that we intend to send in. As per my instructions, he is prepared to send in one unit to retrieve our operatives and lead the rest to the Investigation site in accordance to our agreement."

Meanwhile below decks

In a bustle of activity, The Indra Prime Elite, Phoenix Team is preparing their disguises as lowly crewmembers if the IPS Singularity

"Colonel! You need to stow these weapons NOW! The delegation has arrived and will be down here in minutes. GET IT DONE!"

Colonel Will Rachlin, disguised as a midshipman, sends a disgusted look at the Admiral's Aide.

"Get off my back, Commander. The only reason youre here is because you have learned the art to Suck up to those in Power. Let me and my men handle our own problems. And to rest your little wearied mind, we will have these weapons stowed in a few seconds. There will be no trace of them for their technicians to find. They are looking for contemporary munitions, but they could not predict what would come out of DTRI.Get out of my face now so we won't be caught by them."
<to his squad>
"Lets move it men! You have 60 Seconds to get your equipment to storage bofore it is sealed. If you fail, I will kill you myself. Now MOVE IT!!!"

"Right then." says Trevelyan to his nevrous-looking sargeant, waving asside the nurse who tries to prevent him from leaving the hospital. "We'd best get to the Isle of Man to scope out the facilities. That'll give us time to bring in what is needed for a conference and show some hospitality that doesn't involve Murderous Tendency guns."
"With respect, sir, we're not even sure of the status of the Isle of Man with respect to political affiliation or unrest and frankly the hospital staff don't think you should be out of here at all, let alone in the middle of a possible combat sit."

"Well, the former is exactly why someone needs to go there and the latter is irrelevant since my wife would have had me sedated if I were still in any danger. So, to the Isle of Person." "Man, sir" "Yes of course, the isle of Man."

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"This is a diplomatic flight requesting permission for airspace travel to the Isle of Man, we want to start getting facilities up and running for new conference."

Nari Mhe'Zahid nods to Bennett and the others, and with a wave of her hand the Trahim move into the ship - their battle armour LIDAR scanners allowing them to build up a complete map, displaying hairline cracks that would indicate secret compartments and looking for suspicious blank areas where rooms should be but aren't.

As the Trahim search, Nari smiles as her white-clad inspectors prepare recording equipment.

"Now, Fleet Admiral Bennett," she says. "Please bring out your Peacekeepers for inspection and transportation to the mainland of British Imperialism. And the two doctors there - " she points two men out - "will be needing private cabins in order to conduct the body cavity searches."

[quote="Now, Fleet Admiral Bennett," she says. "Please bring out your Peacekeepers for inspection and transportation to the mainland of British Imperialism. And the two doctors there - " she points two men out - "will be needing private cabins in order to conduct the body cavity searches."[/quote]

Benett: Now wait a minute. We agreed to search the ship. Not the interiors of our crew. That goes against all their rights as Human beings. We will allow you to search our ship in side and out but the invasion of privacy is held sacred in Indra Prime. You can search the outside of the crew but not a body cavity search. We have relented to the point of allowing your search parties on board one of our battlecarriers, and we are doing so willingly. So all we ask in return is that you take our word that we bring no hostile intentions to this nation."

oops. double post.

OOC:Wanted to make your point did you?

Benett:"Now that your crews have swept our ship from top to bottom, we will tank you to allow us to get on our way so we can carry out our recovery mission."

Nari Mhe'Zahid quirks an eyebrow. "Excuse me, Fleet Admiral. But I was instructed that you wished to send peacekeepers to the British Imperialism mainland. Are you now telling me you wish to turn back from the country? That would be most irregular."

The Trahim, having finished their inspections of the ship and seemingly finding nothing suspicious - although having complete sensor maps of it, now - return to the upper deck.

"However," she continues, "I'm afraid that if you do wish to send those Peacekeepers, you'll have to bear in mind that social luxuries such as embarrasment cannot be afforded to troops who wish to enter life-and-death situations."

One of the doctors pulls on a latex glove with a loud snap sound.

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Nari Mhe'Zahid quirks an eyebrow. "Excuse me, Fleet Admiral. But I was instructed that you wished to send peacekeepers to the British Imperialism mainland. Are you now telling me you wish to turn back from the country? That would be most irregular."

The Trahim, having finished their inspections of the ship and seemingly finding nothing suspicious - although having complete sensor maps of it, now - return to the upper deck.

"However," she continues, "I'm afraid that if you do wish to send those Peacekeepers, you'll have to bear in mind that social luxuries such as embarrasment cannot be afforded to troops who wish to enter life-and-death situations."

One of the doctors pulls on a latex glove with a loud snap sound.

Benett:" With all do respect, madame, we could have come in to the BI with out you ever knowing about it. We are here merely as a gesture of good faith on our nation's behalf. We will allow you to Xray our peacekeepers do a search on them if necessary but we will not allow cavity searches. You can get what you need from our xray scanners and your sensors.Our troops are capable of handling themselves in wartime situations."

Nari Mhe'Zahid laughs. "With absolutely no respect at all, Bennett, we could have detonated the nova bombs we smuggled onto your pleasure planet - although admittedly you'd have known about that. Had you smuggled "peacekeepers" onto British Imperialism land, I refer you to the Germans in WWII - they would have been utterly useless, and ended up dead - and you with a war on your hands. Now, either you can submit your men to body cavity searches, or wait the day it will take for our Irodium-525 isotope pills to go through their bodies, and then we'll run our own scans. Although for medical reasons, I have to recommend the former. No search, no access to British lands."

Benett turns to one of his Aides and whispers something to him and turns back around to Nari as the Aide ran off the flight deck heading towards the bridge.

Benett: "Do you scans. We will wait for a day but no longer. What is the cause for concern, medically?"

As Admiral Benett was talking to the representative for Murderous Tendencies, A quick burst communique was dispatched back to Indra Prime Naval Headquarters using the most recently developed fractal code for communications. Once the message was recieved and read, It was fast tracked to BWO and the Vyse King of Rogues.

Nari Mhe'Zahid laughs even louder. When she stops - it takes a few minutes - she says, "the cause for concern is that you could be trying to introduce an incubated form of disease or smuggling weapons onto British soil. Or if you mean the problem with Irodium-525, it's that in order to get a scan of sufficient quality to reveal the information we need, it's highly radioactive. I'd have your men give sperm samples now, eh?" She laughs again. "Of course, we can give them iodine pills afterwards. That generally stops the bad side effects. Mostly."

Large scanning machines are constructed - they look complex, and construction will take quite a while.

Gold and Cobalt isotopes are much safer and are in fact used more often in medical situations. I say that you are trying to poison Indra Prime's men.

This seems to be an attempt to sabotage our mission by killing our people who come in peace What information are you looking for exactly? If all you want to do is scan them for diseases then take a sample of their blood. You are not using this isotope on our men nor are you doing your cavity searches. We are growing impatient and will have our people out of this country by the end of the week I can assure you.... with or without your approval. We really don't care right now whether you approve it or not. You have done your search and have found nothing, we are not carrying any diseases that you need to worry about so there is nothing you have to complain about. Let us proceed or we will recall our carrier fleet and have Naval HQ send us more ships. And they will ALL come into Devil's Desert waters. Of this I promise you. I dare you to call our bluff.

Nari Mhe'Zahid simply looks pityingly at Admiral Bennett. "What are you trying to hide exactly, that you won't let us carry out our simple mission? That you're bluffing with the lives and existence of your entire country, against one of the most militaristic regions in the world? And we have not yet checked you for disease. Here - look at this."

She puts a small LCD laptop on a flat surface, and opens up a program (http://zombies.insertdisc.com/mattcordes/).

"See how the infection spreads? That's an accurate modelling of one of our weaker bioplagues. And we're not going to risk any more bioengineered weapons come onto the island. Hence these essential - and non-negotiable - checks. Now, if you were as dedicated to peace as you claim, you'd be willing to accept our terms. However, as you obviously have something to hide and won't submit to these simple precautions, my team and I will be leaving now."

She motions, and the medics begin to pack up the scanning equipment. The Trahim have their heads covered by helmets, but their stance is watchful.




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No low-radiation isotope will show what I'm looking for, basically bacteria.

Whispering Voices is pleased to announce the deployment of a tertiary array of MySpy satellites. Originally developed during the Melkor war, these fine spacefaring creations measure the geoid structures of parts of the earth, combining imaging with short-wavelength microwave emissions to allow complete penetrative covering of ocean depth intelligence.

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Cardinal Mattias growled as his transport approached the Isle of Man, his eyes drawn with fatigue, his temper clearly shortened.

"Right. If Indra Prime want to call our bluff, so be it. Mobilise complete Dominion emergency forces, and prepare to send them to British Imperialism on the first sign of a movement by Indra Prime troops, or the first destruction of one of our satellites. In addition, triple-check our nuclear war scenario for war."

<Transmission: all countries concerned>

It is with some personal regret that I note Indra Prime has resorted to threats to avoid complete searches of its ships by Murderous Tendencies personnel, obviously scared of being found to hide something. Despite our unusual and generous efforts to meet them on even grounds, we have now had our good will kicked back in our faces. Therefore, we would advise Vyse and other occupying forces to move with as great expediency as possible to leave the land of British Imperialism. It appears that the scenario in which we are forced to leave Indra Prime a country of ashes and shadows is one that is becoming more likely by the minute.

~ Cardinal Mattias Schmidt

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Trevelyan catches the information over the radio. "Dash it... if they're refusing searches then they have something to hide darn it... why are they pushing this _now_..."

He looks around at the hotel... it seemed spacious enough and the owner/manager was a jovial chap, quite happy to wait for the Sarge's update to be dealt with.

"Well, as I see it we can hope to have the delegates here within two days if that incident doesn't ignite. Shall we say book the whole building for a week and we'll tell you by day 3 if we need the next?"
"The whole hotel? Certainly, sir... cash or charge?"
Trevelyan laughs at the managers humour... "I'll have the deposit credit transferred within the hour... I expect good building security and posh-type meals, so give me the figures for extra needs and I can see them settled. When the goal is peace, price isn't the first priority."

He walks outside with his detail, reading the hardcopy that the Sarge had handed him. "... but with war, it seems to rate pretty highly... deep manoeuvres, blah, blah, training, blah, refit... church opposed... blah. Looks like Tarrican is a paper tiger right now. Lucky we're here for peace, eh? Lets just hope everyone else is."

"As you say, sir, I have Sandri working on the flyers as we speak."

Benett: "We have let you search our ship. And you yourself reported that there was nothing we had to hide even when you scanned it with your technology. Do not threaten us in this fashion. We are carrying no harmful bacteria as our medical personnel have scanned each of us, including myself, for any potentially harmful viruses and bacteria. We have passed your checks now let us recover our people. If you do not allow us to do so in a peaceful fashion, I do not think you will like the alternative.

Benett partially turned to the Commander to speak with him but always remained in eye contact with the delegation of Whispering Voices. He spoke so that even they could hear his next orders.

Commander!"

"Yes Sir?"

"Contact Naval Headquarters, tell them that Whipering Voices is hampering our recovery mission. Tell them that I am calling for a state of full readiness of the Full Fleet and tell them to warm up the silos. It doesn't appear they are going to do anything for the sake of peace. Go to DEFCON 3."

Aye Sir." And the Commander turned to follow his orders fully knowing that doing so may result in the destruction of the Singularity. But he knew the true importance of their mission and would do everything in his power to see that it is successfully completed.

Nari Mhe'Zahid didn't bother laughing, only said as she turned to leave: "You let us search your ship, but metal lies. And it's our medical personnel who would need to perform scans, not yours - you've passed none of our medical checks, and your refusal to submit to them indicates why. Good day, may your soul rest in peace."

The Murderous Tendencies inspection team leaves the Singularity, and head back to their own ship.

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Encrypted satellite transmission to Whispering Voices:

<Indra Prime refused entry. Discussed use of silos. Advise the immediate>
<powering up of kill-sats and the Tri-Die systems.>
<Murderous Tendencies has authorised the sending of four additional expeditions>
<To British ground.>

OOC: is anyone else wondering why this thread has gone on so long?

<Transmission to Indra Prime>
<Cardinal Matthias Schmidt>

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust ...


<Transmission to Bodies Without Organs, all Devils Desert nations, Vyse King of Rogues, British Commonwealth>

Indra Prime appears to be threatning a nuclear war - visual recording follows:
<and it shows the scene where Bennett says "Contact Naval Headquarters, tell them that Whipering Voices is hampering our recovery mission. Tell them that I am calling for a state of full readiness of the Full Fleet and tell them to warm up the silos. It doesn't appear they are going to do anything for the sake of peace. Go to DEFCON 3." >

As I'm sure you'll be aware, having done research on us, our SDI program is fully fledged, therefore once Indra Prime have launched their puny assault on an airspace designed to deal with military threats a hundred times larger in days gone by, we'll be rolling over their moronic country and hopefully installing a regime capable of concluding that a nation of 266 million with a tiny defence spend should not attack a region of thirty billion that has higher average defence spend than any other region in the world, according to the most recent UN polls on the subject.

Should any of you have any way to dissuade Indra Prime and an interest in seeing it survive, I suggest you point out to them just how retarded an attack on us would be.

Cardinal Mattias Schmidt.

Transmission From Holy Republic of Danu to Nations of Indra Prime, Whispering Voices and all others with interest in British Imeperialism and the Irish sea.

It is my wish that the current situation in the Irish Sea be concluded with no further violence. Any acts of war commited in the area of British Imperialism and the Irish Sea will have tremendous impacts upon the region of 32 County Irish Republic. We therefore find ourselves in a situation which we cannot allow this to happen. Know that any long range missile launches shall be targeted by the regional defense grid and destroyed. We are still on a high state of alert and shall not sit idly while our security is threatened. We hope that both nations can come to a common solution to this problem before this gets any further out of hand.

Fionn Mac Dougal ,President Holy Republic of Danu
Head of 32 County Irish republic

<Transmission to All Countries involved in this conflict>
<Transmission from Indra Prime Senior Directorate>

We have not stated any intention to go to war... At this time. However, we must recover our men ASAP from behind enemy lines. With Whispering Voices' level of paranoia, that is becoming more and more remote at occuring peacefully. We ask the international community to support us in our endeavour to recover our men in a peaceful fashion and not to threaten our peacekeepers with extremely invasive medical procedures currently being tabled by Whispering Voices. We have to this point, removed all warships from the region to an undisclosed location and haveonly left the IPS Singularity Battle Command Carrier which curently only houses Peacekeepers to 1) recover our men from British Imperialism territory and 2) to ascertain whether the motives of Whispering Voices and Murderous Tendencies are legitimate and are not in the process of rebuilding BI's military or any other form of subversion to the International Community. Indra Prime wishes this to be solved peacefully, but if hostilities do start they will start from the region of Devil's Desert and not from us. DD will find that Indra Prime is alot stronger than they realize, more than any intelligence they have to this point. We ask in the name of peace for the international community to support Indra Prime in the removal of out people and to tell Whispering Voices to back down.

<Transmission>

We're not backing down. In fact, the more pressure exerted on us, the more likely it is that we'll send far more troops into British Imperialism. We have no reason to permit the entry of troops to British Imperialism that refuse to undergo our medical procedures to ensure that they are not attempting to endanger the lives of the citizens of that country.

If Indra Prime's motives were good, they'd just have their soldiers undergo one of the two options offered - worse gets done on simple drugs tests at international sporting events.

However, we salute Danu on their stance against nuclear weapons - truly a danger to all nearby nations.

Transmission From Holy Republic of Danu to Nations of Indra Prime, Whispering Voices and all others with interest in British Imeperialism and the Irish sea.

It is my wish that the current situation in the Irish Sea be concluded with no further violence. Any acts of war commited in the area of British Imperialism and the Irish Sea will have tremendous impacts upon the region of 32 County Irish Republic. We therefore find ourselves in a situation which we cannot allow this to happen. Know that any long range missile launches shall be targeted by the regional defense grid and destroyed. We are still on a high state of alert and shall not sit idly while our security is threatened. We hope that both nations can come to a common solution to this problem before this gets any further out of hand.

Fionn Mac Dougal ,President Holy Republic of Danu
Head of 32 County Irish republic

In accordance to above, Lavallin has full forces on alert and is deploying several Carrier battlegroups in Irish sea and in waters around 32cir and in international waters , SDI system fully enabled, space assets fully on alert, the Carrier groups are in addition of other assets already still deployed in Irish sea.

Lavallin through wonders about the need to do "body cavity" searchs for "bacteria" there are other easy procedures to identitify biologicals, then dose people with lethal radioactives.

<Transmission>

We're not backing down. In fact, the more pressure exerted on us, the more likely it is that we'll send far more troops into British Imperialism. We have no reason to permit the entry of troops to British Imperialism that refuse to undergo our medical procedures to ensure that they are not attempting to endanger the lives of the citizens of that country.

If Indra Prime's motives were good, they'd just have their soldiers undergo one of the two options offered - worse gets done on simple drugs tests at international sporting events.

However, we salute Danu on their stance against nuclear weapons - truly a danger to all nearby nations.

Then apparently we are now at a stand off. If you move more troops into BI then we will send more ships into Devil's Desert's Waters and we WILL recover our people whether you accept them there or not. If you begin to put more soldiers in BI territory to reinforce your facility there then we will have to upgrade to DEFCON 2. We will not allow what is transpiring at that facility to continue any further. It is a clear and present danger to everyone in the DD region and everyone involved in this conflict. We were not the ones who needlessly escalated this matter, it was you. You refused to admit my troops, our PEACEKEEPING troops into BI because you wanted to administer a very radioactive isotope which would have undoubtedly allowed you to track the movements of our people for a long time after they left BI. This radioactive isotope would have in the long run done permanent damage to our people's health. And that would have been an attack on Indra Prime itself. So it was not us who initiated this increase in tensions, it was Whispering Voices.

<Transmission>

The radioactive isotope only came about because your "Peacekeepers" refused to undergo tests that are used in every major airport in the world to check suspicious characters for drugs. To put it bluntly, Indra Prime, you're full of it. You're dedicated to peace, yet threatning nuclear war because your pansy bitch soldiers refused to let a pretty Oriental nurse lube up their latex gloves and have a good rummage.

Permission has been given for Murderous Tendencies to land upon British Imperialism soil - stated goals are to assist Vyse, King of Rogues in their attempts to finish the last of the mine clearance and rebel troop destruction.

Indra Prime, nothing you can say or do will ever incline my country to restrict its movement of troops on allied countries within my region.

-Cardinal Mattias Schmidt

Where the Hell did you get the idea that doing body cavity searches would determine if our people had dangerous bacteria or viruses in the blood stream. With no respect, you must be cracked. And your goals to assist Vyse are a load of crap. We have been monitoring the illegal activities you have been up to in BI and we WILL not stand by for it. It is against any forms of peace that you have been proclaiming in this region. And if you do decide to attack us, our true military might will prevail. You have NO idea whatsoever as to our true strength. I warn you, we have allies that will aid us in the event that an attack does originate from ANY of the DD region's countries.

<NOTE TO ALL SHIPS: INDRA PRIME OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE FORCES ARE NOW AT DEFCON 2. BE PREPARED FOR THE WORST.>

<Transmission>

The cavity searches were to check for concealed weapons, you morons. The swabs were for bio-analysis.

And if you have so many allies, why are you pleading for allies on your regional message systems?

Interestingly, I note that Murderous Tendencies has a higher defence spend UN rating than the whole of that region put together.

And also that your combined regional population is ... small.

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Whispering Voices doesn't bother telling people it's on an increased alert status, however the massive fleets from Murderous Tendencies are clearly awake and ready for trouble - and, whilst keeping a respectful distance from Irish waters, move into intercept positions around British Imperialism mainland.

If that is what you think then so be it. But you are sadly mistaken.

OOC: And for a second matter That was a msg. to Indra Prime Ships, not to all ships in the area. So that information is not for you or anyone else.

IC: The fact that you were not willing to allow us into BI to reclaim our people shows that you have soemthing to hide on the mainland. And if we might ask, what could we possibly gain on carrying concealed weapons into BI when we were the nation that helped to broker the ceasefire?

<Transmission>

How have we had time to hide things on the British Imperialism mainland, and why would we hide them? All we want is non-regional forces to leave British Imperialism so it can rebuild.

And you keep saying you have no reason to take secret weapons onto British soil - then why will you not permit searches?


OOC:

Indra Prime is calling for massive amounts of support.


Doesn't sound like a message to your own ships to me :p

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<A card delivered diplomaticly to all 32CIR countries, all Devil's Desert countries (inc. BI)and British Commonwealth.>

Dear Sir/Madam,
You are cordially invited to the Highview Hotel on the Isle of Man for the dates of tommorrow until we're finished to discuss in conference British Imperialism and peace in our time.

Yours Sincerely
Lt. Colonel Marcus Trevelyan (9retired), Tarrican Officer Diplomus for the BI issue.

<Transmission to Indra Prime, cc. to WV, MT and BI>

We would like request that in all further pusturing and threats, you leave out the potential of nuclear strike. We would also like you not to go to war over trivialities, but that is one issue: use of WMD is another. If it comes to war it will be regretable. If you use nuclear armament in/on or around the Devils Desert then between us it will be total war... a war of the knife and the knife unto the hilt! Somewhere painfull, too.
Mr T. says: "Say 'No!' to Nukes."

As in the matter of the situation in your little boat, we have a simple statement. "The innocent have nothing to hide." Ergo, if you continue to refuse their simple request then you will damned in the eyes of our region, your own and all neutral nations for your attempt to smuggle illicit troops and armaments into the nation. Stop it... and stop threatening suicide if you don't get your way.