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Amphibious Assault Ship for Export (pics)

United Elias
17-07-2003, 00:15
The EM-150 Dolphin class was developed by The Elias Marine Corporation and Bisonic Defence Initiatives Agency (BDIA) in a response to a requirement for an amphibious assault ship that could also perform the role of a light aircraft carrier and sea control ship.

The ship is highly capable and features modern defence systems such as the Shtil SAM system and CIWS mounts. The ship is designed to be extremely flexible as it can be used in either the amphibious role, the helicopter assault role or as a light aircraft carrier.

The Dolphin class design integrates the latest in command, control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (C4ISR) capability. These capabilities are further enhanced by additional, dedicated intelligence, mission planning, and command and control spaces. The shipboard wide area network (SWAN) is a fiber optic shipwide large area computer system. The SWAN will support everything from combat systems to ship systems to command and control nodes to an integrated training system. This network also provides e-mail and internet access capability.

The ship's assault support system synchronises the simultaneous horizontal and vertical flow of troops, cargo and vehicles throughout the ship, for insertion of forces ashore via helicopters, landing craft and amphibious vehicles. Six 12,000lb capacity cargo elevators transport material from cargo holds to staging areas for loading. Cargo to be loaded aboard landing craft within the well deck is moved via a monorail system. This system consists of 2,900ft of track in a six-track layout. The five 32ft monorail trains each have a capacity of 6,000lbs and a speed of up to 10mph. The ship has two deck edge aircraft elevators, each with a lifting capacity of 105,000lbs


-Name: EM-150 Dolphin
-Class: Assault ship (LHD)
-Displacement: 24,800 tons
-Length: 772 feet
-Width: 115 feet
-Compliment: 923
-Propulsion: 4x 12,000 hp Gas Turbines driving two shafts and a bow thruster.
-Max Speed: 26 kts
-Armament: 6 Ak-603 CIWS 6000 rpm 30mm cannons, Shit SAM system (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35421) with vertical launch cells for 32 missiles.

1xUDAV-1 Multi-barreled ASROC:
Range: 4500m
Fires two types of munitions:

The 111SG depth-charge rockets with HE warhead and impact-time fuse to engage underwater targets;

The 111SO decoy rockets to divert homing torpedoes from the surface ship by creating false acoustic target

-Aircraft: up to 22 ‘slots’ for VSTOL aircraft (such as F-35, Yak-141, sea Harrier) or medium helicopters (such as Puma, Blackhawk, Mi-17 etc) in any combination. Large helicopters such as the (CH-53E or CH-47) would take up two ‘slots’ and smaller helicopters such as Hueys or Cobras would take up about 3/4 of a ‘slot’ etc. Up to two Mi-26s can be accommodated on deck but not in the hangar. 12 degree ski jump included.

Standard Elias Navy air wings:

Amphibious assault:
12 EA-24G (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40824) Marine Helicopters
6 EA-28G (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66401) Special Forces Helicopters
6 EA-34B (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128217&highlight=) Marine Attack Helicopters

Sea Control:

18 EA-135B (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130193&highlight=) Joint Tactical Fighters
6 EA-24H (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40824) Naval Helicopters

-Military Lift:
Well deck can accommodate up to three LCACs or six smaller landing craft. Ship can accommodate up to 1,070 troops.
Cargo hold has 22,000 square feet of vehicle stowage space


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/images/Luigi-Einaudi-NUM.jpg
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/num/images/num_model2.jpg
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~steven/images/num_takeoff1.jpg


EM-150s: $1.2 billion

(if you require helicopters for your vessel please click here:
EA-24 Multipurpose helicopter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40824)
EA-26 Attack Helicopter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68324&highlight=)
EA-28 Light/Scout Special Forces Helicopter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66401))
New bisons
17-07-2003, 00:17
OOC:

Nice 2nd pic.

You forgot to put crew and troops carried.
United Elias
17-07-2003, 00:22
Oh yeah sorry about the plug at the end :mrgreen:

cheno i didn't forget its all there.
Diminix
17-07-2003, 00:24
Can I buy 12 of these? Money'll be wired upon confirmation.
United Elias
17-07-2003, 00:26
Can I buy 12 of these? Money'll be wired upon confirmation.

Confirmed thank you.
Omz222
17-07-2003, 00:27
We would like 20
Money wired
United Elias
17-07-2003, 00:28
We would like 20
Money wired

Confirmed...keep 'em coming.
17-07-2003, 00:32
I'd like to purchase 5 of these ships. Money will be wired upon confirmation.
17-07-2003, 00:35
No catapults? what's the use?

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New bisons
17-07-2003, 00:37
No catapults? what's the use?

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Hey buddy, russian aircraft such as the Su-27 and MiG-29, which arent VSTOl, operate from ski jumps liek this one.

VSTOl aircraft would have no problem.


All purchases confirmed.
17-07-2003, 00:38
Our nation will take one.
Amphibious you say? how does that work exactly?

$1.2Billion... sounds reasonable.
We just paid $1.6B for some light destroyers.

However, the accountants and the bureaucrats seem to be in charge of the military in our nation lately. They are ramming all kinds of budget constraints down our throats lately.
Do you have a layaway plan?
We were thinking something like 6 monthly payments of $200M.

Up to this point our navy has mostly consisted of garbage scows and hopped up fishing boats. We have been working on a way to mount a .50cal on a coleman canoe but have been so far unsuccessful.

Our nation is just starting to dip a toe into naval service.
Since our crews would be unskilled with your technology, we would like to obtain some training in use of the ship. Perhaps when the ship is built our ppl could ride back on the maiden voyage and learn the ropes that way? Perhaps your ppl could provide training en route?

We have begun a navy training program here in preparation for the ship to arrive. But we would really like to send our training crews over to ride back with your delivery team when the ships are ready. Obviously this would not be a complete crew, just a skeleton complement. We feel it would be an excellent training excercise for them to be present on the maiden voyage of the ship they will be serving on. Perhaps your delivery crew could provide training for them enroute? We would really like our junior crews to be present while you are shaking down the ships. We would be willing to compensate you for this service.

Our men would be unfamiliar with the capabilities and technology on board the new vessels, and we would require training and certification on these systems. It is a policy of our military to never purchase any weapons delivery system without partnering with the manufacturer or distributor to develop a training curriculum and certification program. You would know best the capabilities, weaknesses, and field maintenance requirements of your weapons systems. We wish to extract maximum value from our military expenditures and feel that the well-trained men are the best weapon in our arsenal.

Please advise.
New bisons
17-07-2003, 00:39
(I like new countries, so I can give you training for free)



$1.6b for a destoryer?
You got ripped off.
17-07-2003, 00:39
Are you sure the Su-37 can land/take off on something that small? and how many fighters can it hold
New bisons
17-07-2003, 00:40
Are you sure the Su-37 can land/take off on something that small? and how many fighters can it hold

It might, but where did I say it could?



It can hold up to 28 fighters.
17-07-2003, 00:44
Hey buddy, russian aircraft such as the Su-27 and MiG-29, which arent VSTOl, operate from ski jumps liek this one.


you said it there :) maybe you just left out "can't"

and i too would like to know how this is "amphibious"

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New bisons
17-07-2003, 00:45
Hey buddy, russian aircraft such as the Su-27 and MiG-29, which arent VSTOl, operate from ski jumps liek this one.


you said it there :) maybe you just left out "can't"

and i too would like to know how this is "amphibious"

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OOC:

I meant on ski jumps on the larger Kuznetsov carrier.
17-07-2003, 00:49
right, anyway, what do you mean by amphibious?
New bisons
17-07-2003, 00:50
right, anyway, what do you mean by amphibious?


A ship that carries soldiers for assault landings.
17-07-2003, 00:51
Probably keeps the weight down as well.
Remember, this is a "light" aircraft carrier.
Makes sense that their is no room for nuclear drive, steam catapults, massive weaponry, etc. That would be for a "heavy" aircraft carrier.

This should be ideal for our nation. We are not looking to attack anyone.
We just want to be able to defend our nation should any uglies think of coming this way. We are more looking for a lightning quick, first response kind of thing. We cannot really afford the whole shock and awe scene, right now.

We would be happy with loading one of these with a few anti-submarine aircraft, maybe a few helicopter gunships with long-range anti-ship missiles. Or... as you said... a dozen of the new VTOL Harriers would be perfect to defend a small battle group while it takes out the trash.

You may not conquer anyone that way, but it should be enough to keep our beaches clear and ensure the safety of our state-run ocean-front casino complexes and destination resorts. Nothing worse than an amphibious assault on your beachheads to ruin spring break.

Try the veal. Tip your server. Please observe the two drink minimum. We validate parking.

The Holy Empire of Agitated Baboons
New bisons
17-07-2003, 00:57
OOC:

THis is useless for defense, as a defensive carrier I can sell you an Ulyanovsk at $1.5 bil.



(here are a few pics:)
http://www.navalarmada.com/images/ruly.jpg
Can post stats if you want.


(Its a smaller Nimitz in many ways)
17-07-2003, 01:27
um, just to clear something up, amphibious normally means it can go on land. I will take, 10!!!
New bisons
17-07-2003, 01:29
um, just to clear something up, amphibious normally means it can go on land. I will take, 10!!!

Purchase confirmed, comes to $12 bil.



Ships going on land?



1 clarification: Its amphibious assault
17-07-2003, 01:33
OOC:


This puppet is bigger and has a bigger tax rate (bisons here).
United Elias
17-07-2003, 12:51
BUMP
17-07-2003, 13:18
I take on of this carrier and one from the other person.
And yes i want stats before sending monny.
And confirmation from the first seller.
17-07-2003, 13:33
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42594



More Ulyanovsk pics and specs.
Alcona and Hubris
22-07-2003, 19:14
I would like to purchase 3 of the EM-140 ships for 3.6 billion USD
22-07-2003, 19:35
Okay i did order 1 carrier here, wath happend to my order... :?
22-07-2003, 19:41
Tyrador will purchase one EM-140, even tho they seem to be slower and hold less arcraft then a Wasp, but if they are so expenisve they must be better!!
*money has been wired*
22-07-2003, 23:19
Purchases confirmed.
Alcona and Hubris
29-07-2003, 00:06
Money Wired
29-07-2003, 05:35
Money Wired.
Mechacultura
29-07-2003, 05:45
Amphibious in this case means the carrier may be used to launch an amphibious assault. The LCACs or other amphibious craft are delivered near the shore by the carrier, and continue on their own to the beach. Bisons and Elias made no claim that ship itself can crawl up the beach.
29-07-2003, 05:57
I'll take 3 of these fine carriers, wires 3.6 billion
Ferrussia
29-08-2003, 08:23
3, please. Take the $3.6 billion off our credit.

Once again, having the order asap would be nice. (Possible deployment in the Nimbatan conflict)
United Elias
29-08-2003, 17:13
All orders confirmed.

3, please. Take the $3.6 billion off our credit.

Once again, having the order asap would be nice. (Possible deployment in the Nimbatan conflict)

3,322 million (various purchases0
-3,600 million
PAYABLE=278 million

Quick delivery of twosuch vessels can be accomodated, 2 Days (RL
the rest will follow in approximately 5 days (RL)

(I prefer to use RL time as sometimes people have different concepts of NS time)
Ferrussia
29-08-2003, 18:51
Sounds good. $278 million wired.
23-09-2003, 17:35
I need 3 EM-140 AAS

3.6 bill wired on confirm
United Elias
23-09-2003, 17:45
Confirmed.
United Elias
13-10-2003, 15:55
*pic added*

(the second one)
United Elias
14-11-2003, 01:21
Bump, pics added.
Hotdogs2
16-11-2003, 18:43
ill take 10 of them.
they look good!
thanks,
money wired.
United Elias
16-11-2003, 23:19
confirmed thank you.
Alcona and Hubris
06-12-2003, 17:48
I would like to order another 8 please...
Lost Hills
06-12-2003, 17:59
We'll take one of them.

$1,200,000,000 wired upon confirmation.
Seversky
06-12-2003, 18:04
Nice ship.

Its a shame that I'm boycotting the Bisons....
Artitsa
06-12-2003, 18:09
UE, we'll take 4 for use in the Nimbata conflict.
06-12-2003, 18:24
I will take 10, for 12 billion USD, payable upon confirmation
United Elias
07-12-2003, 00:58
All confirmed.

Artitsa: I havent seen you posting there for a while?
07-12-2003, 01:45
Can I buy 12 of these? Money'll be wired upon confirmation.

Constitutional Monarchy of House 5
United Elias
07-12-2003, 12:34
confirmed .
07-12-2003, 13:05
Greetings. As always your produce impresses me. As we have just recovered from our economic crisis. We are not chucking our money about. But we would like to purchase one of these. To see how well it handles different things.

1.2 Billion will be wired upon confirmation and the crew will parachute in. (save on landing and taking off expences.)
Credonia
07-12-2003, 13:43
Credonia would like to buy 4 of these carriers

*Total of $4.8 Billion wired on confirmation*
07-12-2003, 13:57
Don't you mean 4.8 Billion credonia
Credonia
07-12-2003, 14:06
whoops, yea lol thats what i calculated but thats not what i typed lol
United Elias
07-12-2003, 15:58
orders confirmed. Thank you.
Anti-Nazis
07-12-2003, 16:07
I'll buy 20.

Money Wired on order confirmation.
Do you have rush delivery?
Artitsa
07-12-2003, 16:08
All confirmed.

Artitsa: I havent seen you posting there for a while?

Im waiting for Nimbata to allow me back in. Im sending a fleet of helicopter carriers.
07-12-2003, 16:11
we are in the market for a light carrier to give us power projection capabilities. by purchasing two we hope to keep one active at all times and the other in refit/transit at all times. we would use this as a primary carrier force until larger units can be required at which time these will be used for peacekeeping and light support. please respond.
07-12-2003, 16:12
looking for new light carrier to form core new carrier force of new defence plan.
United Elias
07-12-2003, 17:23
we are in the market for a light carrier to give us power projection capabilities. by purchasing two we hope to keep one active at all times and the other in refit/transit at all times. we would use this as a primary carrier force until larger units can be required at which time these will be used for peacekeeping and light support. please respond.

This platform is perfect for this role, order confirmed.
Agrigento
07-12-2003, 17:25
I already use that....but I call it by its real name, Andrea Doria (NUM)

( :wink: Referring to your pictures...)


Heres a friendly suggestion/request: Please avoid using pictures of real military equipment that is actually entering service in RL, without modifying it in anyway. Thanks.
Alcona and Hubris
07-12-2003, 18:37
9.6 Billion wired
United Elias
08-12-2003, 00:18
I already use that....but I call it by its real name, Andrea Doria (NUM)

( :wink: Referring to your pictures...)


Heres a friendly suggestion/request: Please avoid using pictures of real military equipment that is actually entering service in RL, without modifying it in anyway. Thanks.

Wrong, Andrea Doria was cancelled, its a modification which will be known as Luigi Enaudi, get your fact right at least if you intend to criticise.
Agrigento
08-12-2003, 00:21
I already use that....but I call it by its real name, Andrea Doria (NUM)

( :wink: Referring to your pictures...)


Heres a friendly suggestion/request: Please avoid using pictures of real military equipment that is actually entering service in RL, without modifying it in anyway. Thanks.

Wrong, Andrea Doria was cancelled, its a modification which will be known as Luigi Enaudi, get your fact right at least if you intend to criticise.

Hey, um...actually your wrong. First of all, I said it in a friendly tone, don't rush to judgement. And the Andrea Doria was the name of the project....Luigi Enaudi is the first ship of the class, and hence the rest of the class is named after it. My nation never built a Luigi Enaudi, so we just use the Andrea Doria Designation. I know that much about my own country's military.
United Elias
08-12-2003, 00:24
I already use that....but I call it by its real name, Andrea Doria (NUM)

( :wink: Referring to your pictures...)


Heres a friendly suggestion/request: Please avoid using pictures of real military equipment that is actually entering service in RL, without modifying it in anyway. Thanks.

Wrong, Andrea Doria was cancelled, its a modification which will be known as Luigi Enaudi, get your fact right at least if you intend to criticise.

Hey, um...actually your wrong. First of all, I said it in a friendly tone, don't rush to judgement. And the Andrea Doria was the name of the project....Luigi Enaudi is the first ship of the class, and hence the rest of the class is named after it. My nation never built a Luigi Enaudi, so we just use the Andrea Doria Designation. I know that much about my own country's military.

okay sorry, anyway they are actually different designs, original Andrea Doria had fewer flag facilities and I belive Luigi Enadui places more emphasis on amphious operations as well as sea control.
08-12-2003, 00:30
Tyrador will purchase one EM-140, even tho they seem to be slower and hold less arcraft then a Wasp, but if they are so expenisve they must be better!!
*money has been wired*

I'll have one more same deal. :)
Agrigento
08-12-2003, 00:30
For all intensive purposes the Andrea Doria's pictures look exactly the same however.


http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/num/images/num_takeoff1.jpg
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/num/images/num_model2.jpg

and so on

Now you can use, it doesnt bother me that much, but I just don't want anyone to say, when I post pictures of my Andrea Dorias that I am stealing your design or something. Okay, so for the record, so it is made known, I use that same picture.

Have a Nice day :)
United Elias
08-12-2003, 00:34
okay deal.
Seversky
18-12-2003, 00:58
I have a requirement for 38. How soon can that large of an order be filled?
United Elias
18-12-2003, 01:12
I have a requirement for 38. How soon can that large of an order be filled?

Ouch, lets see:

Batch 1: 12 ships deliverable in 3 days RL
Batch 2: 12 ships deliverable in 5 days RL
Batch 3: 14 ships deliverable in 8days RL

Acceptable?
Seversky
18-12-2003, 17:03
I have a requirement for 38. How soon can that large of an order be filled?

Ouch, lets see:

Batch 1: 12 ships deliverable in 3 days RL
Batch 2: 12 ships deliverable in 5 days RL
Batch 3: 14 ships deliverable in 8days RL

Acceptable?
Acceptable. Funds wired.

Would it be possible to have one of those batches manufactured in Seversky inorder to reduce total time required?

Merci.
Trinium Hydroxide
18-12-2003, 19:20
5 - EM-150 Dolphin class LHD Please

Money Wired

Thanks
United Elias
19-12-2003, 00:28
Trinium: Order confirmed, thank you.

I have a requirement for 38. How soon can that large of an order be filled?

Ouch, lets see:

Batch 1: 12 ships deliverable in 3 days RL
Batch 2: 12 ships deliverable in 5 days RL
Batch 3: 14 ships deliverable in 8days RL

Acceptable?
Acceptable. Funds wired.

Would it be possible to have one of those batches manufactured in Seversky inorder to reduce total time required?

Merci.

Setting up buidling facilities in Severesky would take longer than buidling them in Uniited Elias.
Seversky
20-12-2003, 02:37
Setting up buidling facilities in Severesky would take longer than buidling them in Uniited Elias.

ah, ok.
Haukka
10-01-2004, 19:51
Order:2 EM-150 Dolphin/Piotr Hotamel class
Money will be wired when order is confirmed.
10-01-2004, 19:56
Confirmed.
Haukka
10-01-2004, 20:00
How big crew this has. How many for ex. LAV-25 you can fit to 22,000 square feet.
United Elias
10-06-2004, 16:48
bump.
Upper Cet Kola Ytovia
10-06-2004, 17:15
Upper Cet Kola Ytovia
10-06-2004, 17:18
The Dominon of Upper Cet Kola Ytovia is interested in purchasing one Em-150 Dolphin class vessel for evaluation purposes. If we decide we like it, we will buy more.

$1.2 billion has been wired.
United Elias
10-06-2004, 17:22
Confirmed, thank you.
The Zoogie People
17-07-2004, 02:56
Zoogiedom would like to procure six of the aforementioned product to aid in our military transitional phases. This would put us at an estimated total cost of $7.6bn...we thank our allies in United Elias once again.

OOC - 2501 posts. Ahahaha! No longer am I Miss Pacman's lover! I am now...GALAXIAN WARRIOR!!l337!!!11
United Elias
19-07-2004, 22:30
Confirmed, and don't even look at my status!