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Cheap, effective tank for new nations

05-07-2003, 04:59
T-55 AMV2
http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/Russe/vehicules_lourds/T_54_55/T-55AMV/T-55AMV_RUSSE_02.JPG

Crew: 3
Weight: 40,000 kg
Length: 9.00 m (including gun)
Width: 3.14 m
Height: 2.20 m
Max speed: 62 km/h (on road)
Max range: 500 km (on road)
Engine: One V12 Diesel
(850hp)
Fuel capacity: 1260 litres
Trench crossing: 2.70 m
Main armament: 125mm Cannon
ATGM: AT-11
Armour Protection: Frontal armor can withstand 120mm round, Kontakt-5 ERA, ARENA countermeasure system
NBC protection: Full NBC protection
Ammunition (types): APFDS, Frag-HE, HEAT, HVAP-T, AP-T, APDS, APC-T
Night Vision: TO1-PO2T Agava-2 TI (target id range 2.5 km)
TPN-4-49-23 Buran-PA (target id range 1.2/1.5 km)
Fire Control: 1A45T Irtysh computerized system with 9S515 missile guidance system


Modifications from regular T-55:
125mm main gun instead of 100mm
ATGM capabilities
T-72 engine
ERA and ARENA
Improved speed
Complete NBC protection
Autoloader
Added armor protection
Vastly improved FCS and NV

Price: 125,000
Omz222
05-07-2003, 05:01
Great price!
I shall take 10,000!
05-07-2003, 05:02
50000
05-07-2003, 05:03
Ok order confirmed, be there tomorrow. You could buy 40 of these for the price of 1 M1A2, and with the AT-11 they can kill it.
Omz222
05-07-2003, 05:04
Money wired. Thx!
05-07-2003, 05:04
wired
05-07-2003, 05:05
IH that'll be 1.25 billion. I just checked and the AT-11 can shoot down Helos before they are in range haha.
05-07-2003, 05:06
Note to self: Increase armor on current tanks.
05-07-2003, 05:06
lol thanks for sellin them
Hrstrovokia
05-07-2003, 05:11
The United States of Hrstrovokia wishes to purchase 15,000 for use as Hrstrovokia's Light Tank. $1,500,000,000 Kroners waiting to be transfered.
05-07-2003, 05:12
confirmed
Bereza
05-07-2003, 05:26
maybe it's cheap, but that thing is a joke when facing modern armor (4th and 5th generation). though the gun packs a respectable punch, its armor might as well be paper, and at anything but really close range, something like an abrams, a manticore 2, or a T-64 could waste huge numbers of them without suffering so much as a scratch. if the AT-11 has a pretty good range, that might make it cost-effective, but even so, if you intend on it fighting other tanks, you're basically buying a moving target board.

if, however, you use it strictly as an infantry support weapon (the original purpose of tanks, now fulfilled by things like the M2 bradley), it might be very effective. just keep it away from modern armor.
05-07-2003, 05:26
I know a guy selling them cheaper for about 50,000 or around there.
05-07-2003, 05:28
125 mm can knock out an abrams, as proved in the gulf war.
Bereza
05-07-2003, 05:30
really? according to everything i've read, not a single abrams was lost due to enemy fire.

like i said, it packs a respectable punch, but it would be gone by the time it got off a shot, and 4th generation tank armor would stop that shell at medium/long ranges, 5th at pretty close ones.
05-07-2003, 05:31
i'll take 15,000

and yes, i am also pretty sure an abrams was never lost in any war with iraq. schwartzkoff flaunted it.
05-07-2003, 05:31
Not a single CREW was lost, although i think 12 or so were knocked out, the main thing wasn't the gun but the FCS equipment. This thing uses the latest russian FCS, like that on the T-90
05-07-2003, 05:33
Confirmed Mars, another thing to remember is the crews, Iraqi's sucked but the U.S. had pretty good crews. Most U.S. tankers say they could have won if the tanks had been reversed.
05-07-2003, 05:33
if you dont likw them dont buy them its simple

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/sucks2.jpg
Bereza
05-07-2003, 05:34
eh...i'm still skeptical about this T-55 amv2. it's based on the real-world T-55, correct?

what are your sources for these 12 abrams knocked out? i would like to see something like that.
05-07-2003, 05:36
The Confederacy of Marsara is interested in your tanks. Our Military Purchasing Division is prepared to buy 5,000 of your tanks.

Money will be wired upon confirmation of order.


Marsaran Military Purchasing Division
Confederate Military
05-07-2003, 05:36
eh...i'm still skeptical about this T-55 amv2. it's based on the real-world T-55, correct?

what are your sources for these 12 abrams knocked out? i would like to see something like that.
It's a T-55 but it has been so modified that it is more comparible to a T-64 or T-72.

according to global security it was 7 destroyed, but I think more were damaged. 14 were lost to friendly fire.
05-07-2003, 05:38
The Confederacy of Marsara is interested in your tanks. Our Military Purchasing Division is prepared to buy 5,000 of your tanks.

Money will be wired upon confirmation of order.


Marsaran Military Purchasing Division
Confederate Military
confirmed
05-07-2003, 05:39
*money wired*
Bereza
05-07-2003, 05:41
it's still useless against 5th generation armor (manticore 2, black eagle, the Berëzan T-64, etc.), but it does look good for infantry support. i'll take 450 for now, see how they work.

an envoy with the money will be arriving at your embassy shortly.
05-07-2003, 05:42
its for newer nations, hopeflly they dont attack 5th generation armor
05-07-2003, 05:43
it's still useless against 5th generation armor (manticore 2, black eagle, the Berëzan T-64, etc.), but it does look good for infantry support. i'll take 450 for now, see how they work.

an envoy with the money will be arriving at your embassy shortly.
Like IH said, these aren't meant to be uber-high tech MBT's, they are for developing countries. I don't even use them as frontline, but I have about 5,000 in reserve. Shipped your order
05-07-2003, 05:43
if you dont likw them dont buy them its simple

[took out obnoxious picture for this quote]

pretty uncalled for. people were just talking about tanks. geez...
05-07-2003, 05:45
srry mars, i just wanted to make a point, why argue wen the thread is called newer nation tanks
05-07-2003, 05:47
thats very true. i agree actually.
05-07-2003, 05:49
And if you can buy 40 of these for every 1 M1A2 that's certainly an advantage if you are facing a April or Early may nation and you are june or july.
Walmington on Sea
05-07-2003, 05:52
Yes, the 125mm gun will waste an Abrams if it can get close enough.. the old Abrams with 105mm guns had no chance in hell against T72s, that's why they uprated to 120mm.. which it seems is superior to the 125mm gun.. so, yes..modern MBTs with 120mm guns will have an advantage, but i don't think there's a tank created that can take a direct hit from a 125mm, certainly an APFSDS type round, and not... er..be completely ...stuffed.

Anyway, I should be quiet as I can't have these tanks just yet- WoS has just put the Vickers 6ton tank into production :)
05-07-2003, 06:57
bump
05-07-2003, 07:01
I will purchase 22,000 for my new light tank brigades. That comes to 2.75 billion I believe. These will be useful, despite their sort of, crappiness, in comparison to my T-90's and M1A2's.
05-07-2003, 07:02
I will purchase 22,000 for my new light tank brigades. That comes to 2.75 billion I believe. These will be useful, despite their sort of, crappiness, in comparison to my T-90's and M1A2's.
imported_Lusaka
05-07-2003, 07:08
People, people, inferior capability against the absolute best MBTs doesn't directly equate to a vehicles classification as a light-tank. These are medium tanks or main battle tanks no matter how you look at it... and we're going to order some :D
By our standards they're bloody impressive.
We'll take just two (budget VERY tight, and we hope to adapt just a few of the components to our existing T54s)
Funds under transfer as we speak.
05-07-2003, 07:10
wow 2, I don't know if my factories can handle that...you can have an extra 8 for free. :D
05-07-2003, 07:11
wow 2, I don't know if my factories can handle that...you can have an extra 8 for free. :D
generosity...ignore the double post

So is it a deal?
05-07-2003, 07:13
i guess
05-07-2003, 07:14
*wires money*
when can i expect my 22,000 tanks?
05-07-2003, 07:15
5,000. Money wired.
05-07-2003, 07:15
confirmed
05-07-2003, 07:16
*wires money*
when can i expect my 22,000 tanks?
tomorrow about this time RL
05-07-2003, 18:18
bump
06-07-2003, 02:33
3,000 please. Money wired.
06-07-2003, 02:34
confirmed
Spyr
06-07-2003, 03:40
We would like to order 1620 tanks.
payment to be forwarded upon confirmation.

Gen. Casper Rynn
Minister of War, PRS.
06-07-2003, 03:41
confirmed
06-07-2003, 03:53
I would like to buy 10 thousand please.
Oh I love the price :D
06-07-2003, 04:01
CONFIRMED
NuMetal
06-07-2003, 04:15
I'll take 200 *wires money*
06-07-2003, 04:16
10,000 of your T-55. this will be my "Suicidal Front" weapon. basically they are going to guard my M1a2s...

i think thats

1,250,000,000

money wired
06-07-2003, 04:17
confirmed
06-07-2003, 16:02
The price should be closer to $750,000.





But then again, nothing priced correctly can be sold here.
06-07-2003, 19:26
16,000 tanks

The money has been wired. :arrow:
06-07-2003, 19:33
300 money wired
De Republica
06-07-2003, 19:39
nice tank...sorry i dont need any though :(
06-07-2003, 19:49
Ill buy 500,000 for for 62.5 billion
~Money will be Auto wired of comfirmation of order!
(dont worry about money i just sold a country for 3 trillion dollars so im rich for mean time.)
06-07-2003, 19:57
i will purchase 10,000 for my infntry support and shall wire half to you now and the other half upon receving my order
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
06-07-2003, 20:24
25,000 please.
06-07-2003, 20:25
haha, that 500,000 tank order made me laugh. It would take 1.5 million men to crew them.
Omz222
06-07-2003, 20:30
haha, that 500,000 tank order made me laugh. It would take 1.5 million men to crew them.
OOC-FiK, Arcels "got" that 3 trillion by "auctioning" off his nation and his puppet made the bid of 3 trillion. That's a stupid way to godmode.
His puppet doesn't even have 3 trillion.
06-07-2003, 20:43
haha, that 500,000 tank order made me laugh. It would take 1.5 million men to crew them.
OOC-FiK, Arcels "got" that 3 trillion by "auctioning" off his nation and his puppet made the bid of 3 trillion. That's a stupid way to godmode.
His puppet doesn't even have 3 trillion.
I did not Omz222 just go read all about in got space ship topic you to fik GO READ. I want my 500,000 tanks please
06-07-2003, 21:13
no arcel I'm not selling you ANY tanks
Abu-Dhabi Khristatata
06-07-2003, 21:18
no arcel I'm not selling you ANY tanks

:lol: Is my order fonfirmed FiK?
06-07-2003, 21:18
good move fik, check out my anti arcel tank
06-07-2003, 21:21
hey whats happening in da orcish horde Intergallactic Hell?
06-07-2003, 21:24
i moved to RGGA states, the horde looks like its hibernating
06-07-2003, 21:24
I'll take 25,000. Do you sell aircraft?
06-07-2003, 21:24
no arcel I'm not selling you ANY tanks

:lol: Is my order fonfirmed FiK?
are you going to use them against me or rf?
06-07-2003, 21:41
Ill take 20,000. TELEGRAM me my OOC and i will wire the money there.
dont gimme that im a newb shit either, me and pedphiliac ahre money, arms, everything. Plus we both devote ALL of our budget to military, after all a good defense is a great offense.
imported_Hobb
07-07-2003, 01:27
Ok order confirmed, be there tomorrow. You could buy 40 of these for the price of 1 M1A2, and with the AT-11 they can kill it.

From the top or side, maybe...
Nothing much gets through the Frontal Armor of an M1A2!

Not to knock the AT-11, but it's only a 100mm ATGM, about suitable for taking out Bradleys, and other light AFVs...

On the other hand, that is one heck of a good price, and the citizens of Hobb find Soviet-designed armor to be much more spacious than most of you 'high-pocketed' types do...

We'll take 2500 of them...
Just send a telegram to 'FiK', right?
07-07-2003, 01:29
confirmed
07-07-2003, 19:25
to the top
United Elias
07-07-2003, 19:49
We currently have 630 T-55MV Tanks in service with our six Army reserve divisions and we would like to upgrade these to your standards. How much?
07-07-2003, 20:20
i guess 50,000 each
07-07-2003, 21:45
I would like another 50,000 of these fine tanks,Im massing MBT.i have leopards 2 (German MBT), Challenger 2 (British MBT) Abrahms (American MBT) and i have some T-55, but are they the MBT of russia still?

newyas, ill take 50,000

funds have been wired
Bereza
07-07-2003, 23:19
they haven't been russia's MBT since the 60's. then again, they're currently so underfunded that they're probably a good idea now.
08-07-2003, 02:00
Just so ADK knows I rejected his sale since he plans to use them for further imperialistic conquest
09-07-2003, 02:21
BUmP
Edenstein
16-07-2003, 08:26
Fik, our nation was so pleased with our last purchase of the t-55's that we would like to purchase another 5000,

Money will be wired upon confirmation
16-07-2003, 08:53
200,000 please
funds have been wired
lol i have 400,000 t-55's... they are my shields for my leapoard 2 and challenger 2, abraahms, and XB tanks heheheh along with they are 120mm and thats what my tank force consists of, 120mm.
18-07-2003, 15:36
1000, please.

Money is on the way.
25-07-2003, 03:07
orders confirmed
27-07-2003, 01:07
1000 T-55's please

125,000,000 wired as one second ago.
Canada-Germany
27-07-2003, 01:38
2000 tanks, gonna use them for reservests to train on.

Money wired.
27-07-2003, 01:50
orders confirmed
25-10-2003, 15:25
I'll take 30
28-10-2003, 01:51
I would like 100 T-55 AMV2 for 12.5 million $
*money wired upon confirmation*
-please TG me-
Artitsa
28-10-2003, 02:05
Ah, Looking back on this thread makes me smile. So many M1A2 lovers... don't they know T-80's turn em into Coffins? Anyways, I'll take 8,000 of these tanks for reservists.
28-10-2003, 02:20
The exetonian government will take 1000 x T-55 AMV2

*125 mil autowired upon confirmation*
28-10-2003, 03:19
cyber fusion will take 20.
money wired upon confirmation