NationStates Jolt Archive

(By the way, this is a strictly Space-tech post, it is not to interfere with present-tech or those nations whom do not wish to deal with it. Hye-Tek and Tersanctus are not responsible for irresponsible use of the awesome might of the Batlecruiser.)

Designation: Helios-Class Multi-Role Heavy Assault Cruiser


http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/1228/starcraft/bcv1.jpg




Background:The Helios-Class Battlecruiser combines Heavy Armament with Starfighter Landing Bays and Massive Troop and Artillery Transport Capability. Essentially, it is designed to turn the tide of virtually any battle and allow Massive reinforcements to be delivered planetside.


STATS:


Length:2,145 meters
Hull:8450 SBD
Shields: 6370 RU

Weapons:
70 Turbolasers
100 Heavy Turbolasers
30 Ion Cannons
50 Missile Launchers
15 Tractor Beam Projectors
1 Yamato Cannon (Special Weapon, can be fired only once every 15 minutes depending on energy usage, does damage comparable to a small nuclear blast.)

Ship Capacity:
12 Starfighter Landing bays with 3 fighters per bay
300 Transport Shuttle Bays 5 shuttles per bay, 50 personnel to a shuttle.
12,000 crew capacity and quarters
Quarter-Legion carrying capacity (tanks, troops, etc.)
Bays can hold(temporarily) Max 100,000 Troops and 50 Tanks/Artillery Equipment.

Speed:
Sub-light drive: .89 SLU
Hyperdrive: Newly Installed Class 4 Hyperdrive systems 56.8 FTLU

Range:
From 500 to 5,000,000 km The Missile Launchers allowing Planetary Bombardment.

Manuverability:
Low, but is compensated for by a large fighter capacity and Computer controlled Weaponry.

Yes this bad boy was designed for invasion and slaughter!
We have recently installed powerful sheilds that will absorb 67% of energy and matter weapons, plus an addition of a reflective alloy that disperses 54% of energy weapons and the extra thick hull is composed of a titanium-uranium matrix which is nearly impervious to matter attacks. Plus it is equipped with the latest in anti-proton/proton generators, and ion thrusters. The Helios Battlecruiser is nearly the strongest cruiser in its class and able to withstand extended battles, and tear through most Capitol Ships with ease!!

Cost:
87.5 billion per craft.

From the GHQ of the Further Mathematical Military:

I've just started expanding into the space warfare market. The Most Beneficient Holy Emperor Robertson has kindly provided me with over 50 billion Despos for military expansion.

Put me down for one!

Lord Captain Commander Thelonius
Captain of The Most Beneficient Holy Emperor Robertson's Royal Guard
Commander in Chief of all Further Mathematical Forces
In the service of The Most Beneficient Holy Emperor Robertson

Hye-Tek Financial Department:

Order is confirmed and Battlecruiser is operational and en route,

We have 5 ready to ship out, after that it will take 3 months NS time to construct.

Tersanctus, Isla de Penguinata would like to purchase its first ever space-faring vehicle. One, please. And money is being pre-wired. Also, isn't it forbidden to use space vehicles to fight wars? :?

We will buy 6 of these. Money will be wired automatically upon delivery.

1 to the penguins, and in answer to your question yes, unless it's with another space-tech nation. I for example am a present-tech nation, but also Rp in space-tech occasionally. It will really piss off present-tech nations if you enter a present-tech conflict with this, thus the disclaimer.

To the resi corp. 4 are en route the other 2 will be 3 mos. (6 hours)

Orders confirmed and shipped.

OOC: Nice fairly cheap, better than that damn one from Foe Hammer...

IC: Alright, I would like to order: 4. 24 billion Dollars (US) has been dilivered, we will transfer the rest pending delivary of the battlecruisers.

OOC: We wouldn't announce this to the public, so you don't know about this IC.
IC: Resi Corp. has begun to reverse-engineer one of the Battlecruisers.

To newtdom,

4 battlecruisers will be delivered in 3 months (6 hours).

Cost: 48 billion

I'd like one for experimental puproses. Money wired.

I guess I'll just telegram my purchase, but I want all nations that will in the future argue my Battlecruiser possession be known that I have bought it fairly. 8)

WOOPS. Ignore last post except proof of purchase. Sorry, I didn't see the above posts.. :oops:

His excellency woud very much like to purchase 12 of these craft as soon as possible. The money will be wired once order delivery is confirmed.

to omz222;

Order confirmed and shipped.
cost:12 billion

ooc: you play starcraft?! ^^

Rissua,

12 craft are being built and will be delivered in 3 months (6 hours)

cost: 144 billion

OOC: like a maniac!

Money wired. Thx!

Money wired confirmed.

ooc: me too!!

bump

I'll take 12, money wired

12 battlecruisers to POwerful armies

cost:148 billion

(note, order is started at time of reply so by default Powerfularmies has them now)

Our empire wishes to purchase one. 12 bill wired.

Oh, and, by the way, do you sell plans/manufacturing licenses?

I could offer you up to 20 billion for that (in addition to the purchase).

We are building a space drydock, but we have problems with practical designs of capital ships.

OOC: Err...Isn't 12 billion just a little cheap?

OOC: Err...Isn't 12 billion just a little cheap?

shh!! don't tell him!

OOC: Err...Isn't 12 billion just a little cheap?

Dude, do you not know a good price when you see one?! :lol: :lol: Why complain? That battlecruiser is now my home, I don't live on the ground anymore. ^_^

and one to Dark sith, will arrive in 3 mos. (6 hours).

As for this particular model, we are severly copyrighted.

and one to Dark sith, will arrive in 3 mos. (6 hours).

As for this particular model, we are severly copyrighted.

Copyrighted? Where? and who holds the Copyright?

Oh, and money wired.

I as a leader of OSA (Outer Solar Alliance) is requesting a buy.
I would need two ships and we in OSA is preperead to buy these together.
We are six nations splitting the bill.
The World II (me)
The Noon
The Moonslesh
Razorblade
Polenia
Eastern Caspian Sea

Wiring money now!
PLZ send a telegram so i know if our order is taken!

i'll take 20 please, maney is wired when you send the ships

I would like 5 Please. Money wired.

Also, you don't happen to sell other classes of space cruiser do you?

I have detected a slight increase in price. Around 4-5 times the previous price. Dang! I should have purchased more before...

I would like to buy one of these. money will be wired automaticlly upon dilivery.


OOC: Starcraft is the best game ever. I also have info about starcraft 2

I have detected a slight increase in price. Around 4-5 times the previous price. Dang! I should have purchased more before...


Sorry Typo when I was editing Price is still 12 billion.

I'll take 50.
Funds will be wired when sale is approved.
Should come to 600 billion.

Couldn't resist, after seeing MY Battlecruiser? Hmmm? :)

(By the way, this is a strictly Space-tech post, it is not to interfere with present-tech or those nations whom do not wish to deal with it. Hye-Tek and Tersanctus are not responsible for irresponsible use of the awesome might of the Batlecruiser.)


We at Hye-Tek beleive in fashion over functionalty, that means we make a lot of things that look cool, but dont really do anything!

Our latest release to the public is the Battlecruiser! Thats Correct! Our uber-geeks have done it again! This time to make up for the dissapointing sales of out Terminators, we took enough raw material to make a large city and made this:
http://www.battle.net/images/broodwar/pix/wall/terr3prev.jpg


STATS:
Length: 7,900 meters
Hull: 2200 SBD

Weapons:
250 Turbolasers
300 Heavy Turbolasers
300 Ion Cannons
50 Missile Launchers
15 Tractor Beam Projectors
1 Yamato Cannon (Special Weapon)

Ship Capacity:
12 Starfighter Landing bays
12,000 crew capacity and quarters
Quarter-Legion carrying capacity (tanks, troops, etc.)

Speed:
Sub-light drive: .89 SLU
Hyperdrive: Standard 7.0 FTLU

Yes this bad boy was designed for invasion and slaughter!
Sorry no sheilds, but thats what the really thick hull is for, and it is equipped with the latest in anti-proton/proton generators, and ion thrusters.

Cost: 12 billion per craft.

Ok, how much for a copy of the plans? I am presently working towards making my first Space-Tech Fleet.

Necros,
President of Unther Auto Services

OOC: I just beat Brood Wars Today!!! What does the Yamata Cannon do? I never actually used it.

OOC: I just beat Brood Wars Today!!! What does the Yamata Cannon do? I never actually used it.
A REALLY big Gun. Destroys most small buildings. Two hits with a Yamato Cannon could destry a Protoss Nexxus. 3 hits will destroy anything, guarenteed in the game. So I guess you could say, the Yamato cannon is just a really big gun. It terribly damages a battlecruiser but can't destroy it with one hit. Oh Yeah, it takes lots of energy. So you can't just shoot a bunch of Yamato Cannon blasts.

yea... umm.... im gonna have to take 10 of these awesome machines...

I would like to buy one of these. money will be wired automaticlly upon dilivery.


OOC: Starcraft is the best game ever. I also have info about starcraft 2

What do you have about Starcraft 2? Which project was it? Jefferson?

Trailers is willing to purchase 6.(One for research purposes)72 Billion wired upon confirmation.

Couldn't resist, after seeing MY Battlecruiser? Hmmm? :)

It was a great advertisment.

I'll take 50.
Funds will be wired when sale is approved.
Should come to 600 billion.

Awaiting sale approval.

I would like to buy one to start my space warfare fleet.

OOC:Allrighty, sorry about my short abscence I gotta work to pay for this ya know!

IC: Dont worry our automated service makes your order soon as it is placed, if you dont pay for it we send these ships to destroy your front lawn!

Celeborne 50! Battlecruisers-confirmed 600 billion

Unther- Will sell plans in a short time, meanwhile its classified

MArs Volta- 10 - confirmed 120 billion

Trailers- 6 confirmed 72 billion

Sqournshelous-1 12 billion

That should cover todays orders enjoy your bad boys, and keep an eye on Celeborne!!

Funds are transfered.
Thank you for the ships.
Sorry to have rushed you.
Why watch us ....hehehehehehe

OOC:

To Celeborne,

I have checked this:

http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=celeborne&defenseprovided=1&defense=25&militarybudget=1

How much is your defense? I put 25% and you cannot afford a 600 billion purchase.

I am not accusing you of nothing, but I'd like to hear how have you 600 billion not coming for your budget.

Tersanctus:

How many years (RL days) will take to fulfill that order? can you build 50 Battle cruisers in one year AND serve the other purchases?

OOC:

To Celeborne,

I have checked this:

http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=celeborne&defenseprovided=1&defense=25&militarybudget=1

How much is your defense? I put 25% and you cannot afford a 600 billion purchase.

Interesting, but inaccurate. You see that calculator does not take into account other national income (such as weapon sales/running a space station/or loans and gifts from other nations), or savings from making very few military purchases. I tend to save up and make large military purchases every few years (Weeks rt).

Thanks for your concern however.

Of course. I was thinking on that and the fact that IA members regularly loan excess cash between each other. I preferred to present the problem rationally before some n00b came to the thread shouting "GODMOD!!".

That is the same reason I ask the other question to Tersactus, as I know that if someone had placed such an order to me, I had my production lines busy for a RL month, with my actual manufacturing capabilities. (Good reason to add a drydock or three to the ones already in place!).

If we don't step over the line, and keep realistic, no one can accuse anyone of godmodding.

No prob.

And I can see the issue with production ( to be honest I never thought about it, my bad)

I wonder how long it takes to put something that big together.....

I was going to have fun rping out training the crews......"Dad I crashed the battle cruiser" " Its comming out of your allowance" LOL

For you to keep proportions, I know the Bismarck took several years before she was put to sea, and even then it wasn't wholly finished.

Now, in a space-tech era, I think it is possible to build a 7 km long ship in a year or so. PROVIDED you have the resources (alloys, components, builders, etc.) in enough quantities. Specially men, even if you have robotic crews to help in the construction.

Let's stop this discussion, as someone (i.e. Tersanctus) can accuse us of thread-hijacking. :)

*Wires money*Funds sent.

I see your concerns and I understand them,

See this thread: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40891&highlight=

We had numerous terminators for sale, however they DIDNT sell so we said "F*ck it" and we turned them into a free labor force.

That should explain why it only takes 3 months (6 hours) to build these things and why they are cheap, I fyou have any other concerns feel free to address them.

Actually, I am concerned about ordering 10 BCs, and having to wait about 15 years (15 RL days) to get my order. Well, it gives me time to stockpile cash... :)

OOC: My numbers:

50 + 10 = 60 BCs

If you build 4 BCs a year(day)

60 / 4 = 15 years (days) to fulfill both orders.

Unless you have a lot of BCs already built, but it will take about 2 (RL) weeks to provide that.

Hey! I want those babies! :) I do not intend you to close the shop.

Excuse me for being so... detail-obsessed, but if someone says you are godmodding, I won't have the ships, and I want them. Much. Very much.

IC again:

We are no longer interested in the plans for the BattleCruiser (i.e. we reverse-engineered the whole ship). The only tech we don't really understand is the Hyperdrive and the Yamato gun (i.e. the parts that can blow the ship if try to you dissassemble them). As we are close to a theoretical breakthrough referred to FTL travel based on a diferent principle as that of your ship, we are not interested in the Hyperdrive. But we could be interested in the theory on the Yamato and plans for it. Even if it eats a lot of power to get charged, the results, as someone in R&D said, "kick ass".

I wolud like 50 Battle cruisers(ooc:starcrft rules, a protoss carrier would be better)*wires money*

Ok, 12 billion wired.

i'll buy 1
what is prefered payment

Cash
Check
Credit Card
Paypal
Suitcases of Cocaine
Wire Transfer to a Swiss account
Raw Materials
Gold

To tsuranni They are on the way cost:120 billion

ooc: actually they could go at it rather well they are almost equal excetpt the carriers have more damge with the interceptors, th battlecruisers coulsd give more damagfe with the Yamato Cannon. It all in how you plan!

saw and 60 12 billion, 1 battlecruiser, credit is preffered. lol

I'll take 5.

And 5 to the...heheeh...Terran Dominion.

12 bi. x 5 = 60 billion

I was just wondering if you had any fighter designs. My ship yards are currently very busy, and I was hoping to purchase some fighters to supliment the ones we are constructing.

Glad you asked, yes I will have some dog fighter/starfighter designs out shortly.

excellent, one more question. How many fighters will the battlecruiser hold? It says 12 landing bays, how many in each bay ?

A total of 3 fighters per landing bay

12 times 3 is 48

Plus dozens of transport shuttles.

Also Ive gone over The pricing of the Battlecruiser and after a few arguements I have decided that the price is actually much higher!

I will honor all orders before this post after that however the price is 875 billion! I know I know, but thats because with paying humans it would be close to a trillion and the material alone is half a trillion plus electronics weaponry, etc.

doesnt this seem a little too cheap?

and how would it compare to my imperial-class star destroyers (which are costing me $25 billion each)

A total of 3 fighters per landing bay

12 times 3 is 48

Plus dozens of transport shuttles.

Also Ive gone over The pricing of the Battlecruiser and after a few arguements I have decided that the price is actually much higher!

I will honor all orders before this post after that however the price is 875 billion! I know I know, but thats because with paying humans it would be close to a trillion and the material alone is half a trillion plus electronics weaponry, etc.

interesting... in comparison, I am purchasing my super-class start destroyer from TIN for $75 billion

I dont know how it compares what is the post link?

Thanks for the info...I cant wait for the fighters.

TIN gives a break on cost to Imperial Alliance members.

Anyways dont advertise on my thead please.

Who is TIN out of curiosity?

The Imperial Navy.

OOC: oooh, original.... :p

IC: Well, we do need a flagship... Our Renegade class destroyers are a paltry 700 meters in comparison, but somehow i think a pack of 3 or 4 of em would rip this thing to shreds... But, anyway, the money is en route. Thanks.

OOC: Uhh, no. This battlecruiser alone would most likely destroy a fleet of your renegade cruisers. I sure you didnt see the stats correctly.

IC: ASk nicely and I may consider it.

Hmm... Excuse me, but I don't see my order confirmation anywhere.

and one to Dark sith, will arrive in 3 mos. (6 hours).

As for this particular model, we are severly copyrighted.



What are you talking about?

12 x 3= 36

A total of 3 fighters per landing bay

12 times 3 is 48

Plus dozens of transport shuttles.

Also Ive gone over The pricing of the Battlecruiser and after a few arguements I have decided that the price is actually much higher!

I will honor all orders before this post after that however the price is 875 billion! I know I know, but thats because with paying humans it would be close to a trillion and the material alone is half a trillion plus electronics weaponry, etc.

[OOC] You are entitled to sell at whatever price you wish..........but 875 billion seems a bit much, perhaps move the decimal place again? 87.5 billion?

[IC] I would like to know how the plans are for this beast, my R&D divison would like to take a gander at it. And I will buy one at whatever the going price is that you settle on.

What are you talking about?

Errr. The 10 BCs order I made _after_ Celeborne's and _before_ you raised the prices... again.

And for the price, you went from way cheap to expensive and now to exorbitant. :)

(Note: I have checked my post and I see it is not clear that I had made a purchase order. )

Alright, the people have spoken and I agree, 875 billion is WAY too much.

So it ios 87.5 billion which though not realistic of the material involved, is more realistic of what nations can spend. Sorry the price went up so much but I am trying not to godmode here, but the free labor force of the Terminators still stands.

And ten more to dark sith

Before price adjustment 120 billion.

Right, so it's 87.5 billion now? That sounds good. We await confirmation. Thanks.

OOC: And about the destroyers... well, they are comparably faster, and far more manouverable, and the way i see it the Pulse Cannons they're armed with are far superior to any type of laser. Not to mention the 2 or 3 dozen fighters that are deployed by the destroyers. And they use biiig missiles... :D Anyway, that comment was supposed to be ooc. Oh well.

Arg. Space-time hates me, and makes me double post.

ooc: I know what you meant, I take no offense and hope I did not cause any either. As for the lack of Maneurvabilty on the battle cruisers part I meant that the amount of weponry combined with the starfighters makes up for it (I edited recently).

Weapons:
250 Turbolasers
300 Heavy Turbolasers
300 Ion Cannons
50 Missile Launchers
15 Tractor Beam Projectors
1 Yamato Cannon (Special Weapon, can be fired at only once every 15 minutes depending on energy usage, does damage comparable to a small nuclear blast)

I mean imagine this thing grabbing a hold of your enemys ship with the tractor beams and pelting it with all those! It wouldnt stand a chance!

IC: One to Indiastan! 87.5 billion. 3 mos NS time from time order was placed.

YAY! :D

Cash wired. If you need some TIE fighters, I can provide (to you) up to 2.000 (two thousand) per year at 500.000 (half a million) each TIE. Normal price is 1.000.000 (one million) and orders limited (globally) to 2.000. You have ally priority and price in ordering.

well Tie fighters were developed to be cannon fodder in my opinion,
If you wish to arm your ship with them by all means, I have some designs that I am working on now that will be posted shortly.


BTW I edited a bit more on the post so see whats new, including sheilds and more description of the battlecruisers role.

well Tie fighters were developed to be cannon fodder in my opinion,


You are right. They don't have shields or hyperdrive. And are deployed in huge numbers, to make up for heavy losses. The "right" way for an Evil Empire. People are numbers and losses are not important.

And they are cheap. :) Cheaper than any modern fighter.

Er... Do my new 10 BCs come equipped with shields, or are they the same as my older one? One way or the other, my order stands, but I'd like to know.

[quote="DarkSith
Er... Do my new 10 BCs come equipped with shields, or are they the same as my older one? One way or the other, my order stands, but I'd like to know.[/quote]



They have been sent out to upgrade your older ships, all upgrades are complimentary with the battlecruiser.

bump

bump

Ok fine. I will take 10. Thank you. *wires money*

ten to Volonia 875 billion please and thank you.

BUMP

I will take UNO Battlecruiser...to add to my four Imperial-Class, 1 Victory-Class and 1 Super-Class...

I believe that is $87.5 billion? Money is wired. How would these compare to my Imperial-Class?

alrighty, one too the Volga, I dunno about the comparison, do you have stats for the imperial class??

Ill take 1. Money wired

Ill take 1. Money wired


done and done, 3 mos. NS time. And with the new hyperdrive it will be there in quarter of the usual Delivery time.

Thx!

Name/Model# : Imperial-I class Star Destroyer (ISD) <<Stats taken from WEG, BTM, TJ, EG, TIE and XvsT>>
Designer/Manufacturer : Designer Lira Wessex / Manufacturer Kuat Drive Yards
Combat Designation : Star Destroyer or Capital Starship
Scale : Capital
Length : 1,600 Metres
Crew : 37,085 Crew 26,810 + Gunners 275 (4,520 Officers + 32,565 Enlisted)
Skeleton Crew : 5,000
Cost of Vessel : Less than 20 times of a Nebulon-B Frigate (Cost is less than 3,880,000,000 Credits)
Power System : SFS I-a2b Solar Ionization Reactor (Main Reactor)
Engines : 3 KDY Destroyer-I Ion Engines (Main Engines)
4 Cygnus Spaceworks Gemon-4 Ion Engines (For emergency use)
Nav Computer : Yes
Sublight Speed : 6 Space Units
Hyperdrive Rating : Class 2
Hyperdrive Backup : Class 8
Atmospheric Speed : Cannot Enter Atmosphere
Manoeuvrability : 1D
Cargo Capacity : 36,000 Metric Tons
Consumables : 6 Years
Weapons : 60 Taim & Bak XX-9 Heavy Turbolasers (20 Forward, 20 Left, 20 Right)
[With LeGrange computer assisted targeting, for use against starfighters]
Crew: 1 Gunner per turbolaser for 20 turbolasers, 2 Gunners per turbolaser for remaining 40 turbolasers
Fire Control: 4D
Space Range: 3-15/36/75 Space Units
Atmospheric Range: 6-30/72/150 km
Damage: 5D
60 Borstel NK-7 Ion Cannons (20 Forward, 15 Left, 15 Right, 10 Aft)
[With computer assisted targeting]
Crew: 1 Gunner per cannon for 15 cannons, 2 Gunners per cannon for remaining 45 cannons
Fire Control: 2D+2
Space Range: 1-10/25/50 Space Units
Atmospheric Range: 2-20/50/100 km
Damage: 3D
10 Phylon Q7 Tractor Beam Projectors (6 Forward, 2 Left, 2 Right)
Crew: 1 Gunner per projector for 2 protectors, 4 Gunners per projector for other 2 projectors, 10 Gunners per projector for remaining 6 projectors
Fire Control: 4D
Space Range: 1-5/15/30 Space Units
Atmospheric Range: 2-10/30/60 km
Damage: 6D
Sensor Equipment : Com-Scan
SFS Txs-431 Flight Control Console (Used by hanger bay personnel to direct TIE fighter launches and handles docking and boarding duties). Console can normally access wide range of sensors such as: electro-photo, dedicated energy receptors and full spectrum transceivers to identify incoming vessels and scan for evidence of damage or charged shields and weapons and to determine how many life-forms are aboard.
Has dozens of directional long-range electro-photo receptors and over 100 full-spectrum transceivers. A score of broadband transceivers monitor all communications from comlink and subspace bands to radionics frequencies, searching for transmissions "hidden" under natural X-ray emissions or background static.
Sensors : Passive : 50 Space Units/1D
Scan : 100 Space Units/3D
Search : 200 Space Units/4D
Focus : 6 Space Units/4D+2
Communications : Holonet Transceiver
SFS Ranger Subspace Transceiver (Range is 100 light-years). It can monitor more than 300 different subspace frequencies simultaneously; by altering frequencies every tenth of a second, the Ranger scans the entire subspace spectrum in less than 3 hours. The powerful com-scan encryption computer can decode most intercepted messages within minutes.
Shield Generators : 2 KDY ISD-72x Deflector Shield Generator Domes
Hull Composition : Titanium Reinforced Alusteel Hull. The heavily shielded, carbonite and durasteel-reinforced dome holds and protects the main reactor. And all the Taim & Bak XX-9 Heavy Turbolasers are protected by 1 Metre of Quadanium Steel Hull Plating each.
Shield/Hull Rating : Shields 4800 SBD. Hull 2272 RU (RPG=Shields 3D. Hull 7D)
Starfighter Squadrons : Before Battle of Yavin [Most ISDs]
4 TIE/ln Starfighter Squadrons
1 TIE Interceptor Squadrons
1 TIE Bomber Squadron
Near Battle of Endor [Most ISDs]
3 TIE/ln Starfighter Squadrons
2 TIE Interceptor Squadrons
1 TIE Bomber Squadron
[Note that some ISDs have TIE Advanced aboard, certain ISDs have a different complement all together. (ex. ISD Rage)]
Troop Capacity : Full Standard Stormtrooper Division (9,700 Troops)
20 AT-ATs
30 AT-STs
1 Pre-fabricated Garrison Base
? Probe Droids
Support Craft : 12 Landing Barges
8 Lambda-class Shuttles
15 Stormtrooper Transports
5 Assault Gunboats (Star Wing Assault Gunboat)
Variable number of Skipray Blastboats
Variable number of Gamma-class Assault Shuttles
Dozens of deep space probes
Many repair and recovery vehicles
(Hundreds of support craft carried)

Those are the stats for Type-I Imperial-Class Star Destroyers. I can provide Type-II stats if u like.

What you mean by TIE? Like the TIE fighters from starwars?

What you mean by TIE? Like the TIE fighters from starwars?TIE fighters from star wars are the only TIE's i know about

well, I have reviewed your stats on the Imperial class and heres is my conclusions:

The Hulls are approximately the same and your sheilds are stronger.

Shield/Hull Rating : Shields 4800 SBD. Hull 2272 RU

Hull: 2200 SBD
Shields: 3700 RU

However, the length to personnel ratio: Crew : 37,085 Crew 26,810 + Gunners 275 (4,520 Officers + 32,565 Enlisted)
Skeleton Crew : 5,000
Length : 1,600 Metres

compared to:
Length: 7,990 meters
Crew 12,000
Weapons:90% computerized

so essentially it takes less men to operate a craft seven Times larger.


Also the troop carrying capacity and Starfighter carrying is superior as that was in the design.

Unfortunately, the weaponry on a Helios campared to a Imperial:

Imperial:
Weapons : 60 Taim & Bak XX-9 Heavy Turbolasers (20 Forward, 20 Left, 20 Right

60 Borstel NK-7 Ion Cannons (20 Forward, 15 Left, 15 Right, 10 Aft)

Helios:
250 Turbolasers
300 Heavy Turbolasers
300 Ion Cannons
50 Missile Launchers
15 Tractor Beam Projectors
1 Yamato Cannon

So basically your outgunned easily, not to mention it would take alot of fire power to destroy a helios, you probably could take out a good section, however ultimately. I estimate a three Imperial to one helios to put up a decent fight, though if shot with the Yamato cannon I would say most likely the Other ship will either be killed or seriously damaged, within the first few seconds, however it takes a great deal of energy, and can only be fired at minimum every fifteen minutes.

Another advantage is range in favor of the helios, and the helios can enter the atmosphere. So one on one The imperial doesnt stand a chance, a fleet against The helios, would likely destroy it.

What you mean by TIE? Like the TIE fighters from starwars?TIE fighters from star wars are the only TIE's i know about
Ok thats what i thought. I have 1 from that speacil operations mission south of imperiel navy haters country we captured it and put it on our carrier now its here. Why did you have your pupet attack me?

What you mean by TIE? Like the TIE fighters from starwars?TIE fighters from star wars are the only TIE's i know about
Ok thats what i thought. I have 1 from that speacil operations mission south of imperiel navy haters country we captured it and put it on our carrier now its here. Why did you have your pupet attack me?i was bored
Another advantage is range in favor of the helios, and the helios can enter the atmosphere. So one on one The imperial doesnt stand a chance, a fleet against The helios, would likely destroy it.Type-II Imperial-Class Star Destroyers can enter the atmosphere (i think). Compare that to my Super-Class Star Destroyer. I only have one and, without my discount, it would have cost me $375 billion.

Name/Model# : Super Class Star Destroyer (SSD) <<Stats taken from WEG and XvsT>>
Designer/Manufacturer : Designer Lira Wessex / Manufacturer Kuat Drive Yards
Combat Designation : Command Ship
Scale : Capital
Length : 12,800 Metres (Length is from Official Star Wars Web Site)
Crew : 280,734 Crew 279,144 + Gunners 1,590
Skeleton Crew : 50,000
Cost of Vessel : Not Available for Sale
Nav Computer : Yes
Sublight Speed : 4 Space Units
Hyperdrive Rating : Class 2
Hyperdrive Backup : Class 10
Atmospheric Speed : Cannot Enter Atmosphere
Manoeuvrability : 0D
Cargo Capacity : 250,000 Metric Tons
Consumables : 6 Years
Weapons : 250 Turbolaser Batteries (100 Forward, 75 Left, 75 Right)
Crew: 1 Gunner per battery for 100 of them. 2 Gunners per battery for 150 of them
Fire Control: 1D
Space Range: 3-15/35/75 Space Units
Atmospheric Range: 6-30/70/150 km
Damage: 7D
250 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries (100 Forward, 50 Left, 50 Right, 50 Aft)
Crew: 2 Gunners per battery
Fire Control: 0D
Space Range: 5-20/40/60 Space Units
Atmospheric Range: 1-20/80/120 km
Damage: 10D
250 Concussion Missile Tubes (50 Forward, 75 Left, 75 Right, 50 Aft)
Crew: 1 Gunner per Missile Tube
Fire Control: 2D
Space Range: 2-12/30/60 Space Units
Atmospheric Range: 4-24/60/120 km
Damage: 9D
250 Ion Cannons (100 Forward, 50 Left, 50 Right, 50 Aft)
Crew: 1 Gunner per cannon for 100 of them. 2 Gunners per cannon for 150 of them
Fire Control: 4D
Space Range: 1-10/25/50 Space Units
Atmospheric Range: 2-20/50/100 km
Damage: 4D
40 Phylon Q7 Tractor Beam Projectors (20 Forward, 10 Left, 10 Right)
Crew: 1 Gunner per projector
Fire Control: 4D
Space Range: 1-5/15/30 Space Units
Atmospheric Range: 2-10/30/60 km
Damage: 9D
Sensors : Passive : 75 Space Units/1D+2
Scan : 150 Space Units/3D+2
Search : 300 Space Units/5D
Focus : 8 Space Units/6D+2
Hull Composition : Titanium Reinforced Alusteel Hull
Shield/Hull Rating : Shields 96000 SBD. Hull 45712 RU (RPG=Shields 8D. Hull 10D)
Starfighter Squadrons : TIE Fighter Squadrons
TIE Interceptor Squadrons
TIE Bomber Squadrons
TIE Advanced x1 Squadrons
(Total of 2 Wings or 12 Squadrons)
Troop Capacity : Full Stormtrooper Corps (38,000 Troops)
?? Landing Barges
25 AT-ATs
50 AT-STs
Various Ground Vehicles
3 Pre-fabricated Garrison Bases
Support Craft : ?? Lambda-class Shuttle
?? Gamma-class Assault Shuttle
?? Stormtrooper Transports
?? Assault Gunboats (Star Wing Assault Gunboat)
?? Skipray Blastboats
(200 Combat and Support Craft)

Name/Model# : Imperial-II class Star Destroyer (ISDII) <<Stats taken from WEG and XA>>
Designer/Manufacturer : Kuat Drive Yards
Combat Designation : Star Destroyer or Capital Starship
Scale : Capital
Length : 1,600 Metres
Crew : 37,085 Crew 36,755 + Gunners 330
Skeleton Crew : 5,000
Cost of Vessel : Not Available for Sale
Nav Computer : Yes
Sublight Speed : 6 Space Units
Hyperdrive Rating : Class 1
Hyperdrive Backup : Class 8
Atmospheric Speed : Cannot Enter Atmosphere
Manoeuvrability : 1D
Cargo Capacity : 36,000 Metric Tons
Consumables : 6 Years
Weapons : 50 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries (20 Forward, 15 Left, 15 Right)
Crew: 1 Gunner per battery for 20 batteries, 2 Gunners per battery for remaining 30 batteries
Fire Control: 0D
Space Range: 3-15/35/75 Space Units
Atmospheric Range: 6-30/70/150 km
Damage: 10D
50 Heavy Turbolaser Cannons (20 Forward, 10 Left, 10 Right, 10 Aft)
Crew: 3 Gunners per cannon
Fire Control: 1D
Space Range: 3-15/35/75 Space Units
Atmospheric Range: 6-30/70/150 km
Damage: 7D
20 Ion Cannons (10 Forward, 5 Left, 5 Right)
Crew: 1 Gunner per cannon for 10 cannons, 2 Gunners per cannon for remaining 10 cannons
Fire Control: 4D
Space Range: 1-10/25/50 Space Units
Atmospheric Range: 2-20/50/100 km
Damage: 4D
10 Tractor Beam Projectors (6 Forward, 2 Left, 2 Right)
Crew: 1 Gunner per projector for 2 projectors, 4 Gunners per projector for 2 projectors, 10 Gunners per projector for remaining 6 projectors
Fire Control: 4D
Space Range: 1-5/15/30 Space Units
Atmospheric Range: 2-10/30/60 km
Damage: 6D
Sensors : Passive : 50 Space Units/1D
Scan : 100 Space Units/3D
Search : 200 Space Units/4D
Focus : 6 Space Units/4D+2
Shield/Hull Rating : Shields 5760 SBD. Hull well over 2272 RU [Note that X-Wing Alliance accidentally had the same hull stat as the Imperial-I] (RPG=Shields 2D+2. Hull 7D+1)
Starfighter Squadrons : 3 TIE/ln Starfighter Squadrons
2 TIE Interceptor Squadrons
1 TIE Bomber Squadrons
Troop Capacity : Full Standard Stormtrooper Division (9,700 Troops)
20 AT-ATs
30 AT-STs
1 Pre-fabricated Garrison Base
? Probe Droids
Support Craft : 12 Landing Barges
8 Lambda Class Shuttles
15 Stormtrooper Transports
5 Assault Gunboats (Star Wing Assault Gunboat)
Variable number of Skipray Blastboats
Variable number of Gamma Class Assault Shuttles
Many repair and recovery vehicles


This is the Type-II. Turns out it cant enter the atmosphere. But my Type-I Victory-Class can. I only have one though. I think ill use yours for planetery assault.

If I saw that than I would run!

All in all, the Helios is best to rapidly approach planetside (THe drives are two different tehnologys therefore incomparable 56.8 FTLU means "faster than light units" meaning 56.8 times faster than the speed of light, while top cruising speed is 89% the speed of light.)

and supply enough firepower to ward off enemy ships to allow massive planetary reinforcement. In large groups or complmented with other ships A helios helps provide a well-balanced fleet.


I estimate a five helios to one Super-stardestroyer for a decent fight.

Though the helios still out-guns it.

If I saw that than I would run!

All in all, the Helios is best to rapidly approach planetside (THe drives are two different tehnologys therefore incomparable 56.8 FTLU means "faster than light units" meaning 56.8 times faster than the speed of light, while top cruising speed is 89% the speed of light.)

and supply enough firepower to ward off enemy ships to allow massive planetary reinforcement. In large groups or complmented with other ships A helios helps provide a well-balanced fleet.I kinda just spend as little as possible on my Super-Class Star Destroyer (the VNS Zambesi), although I do have a (nearly) full crew aboard. My 6 Capital Ships of my fleet arent really supported that well, and I only have a dozen or so corvettes and escort frigates making up the rest of my fleet.

My Capital Ships are all in dock, and only the Victory-Class (the VNS Zanzibar) is ready around the clock to fight enemies off. The rest of the ships have many men on shore leave etc. My corvettes are patrolling for pirates in shipping lanes and the frigates are protecting the capital ships.

All up my space fleet LOOKS pretty damn impressive, but is actually not that strong due to its lack of proper support craft (except for the basics like supply ships). However, in conjunction with an ally who has a tonne of the little guys I can safely say my ships could act as a command group to engage major enemies.

go here and be impressed http://www.galacticempiredatabank.com/ESSD.html

Holly crap thats awsome! Its huge! I love it!

(OOC:Some idiot nation named PaulMayo with a populatio of 5 million decleared war on me threw TGs. :lol: :lol: )

Holly crap thats awsome! Its huge! I love it!

(OOC:Some idiot nation named PaulMayo with a populatio of 5 million decleared war on me threw TGs. :lol: :lol: )The Sean Empire is building it. its costing him I think $12 trillion

go here and be impressed http://www.galacticempiredatabank.com/ESSD.html

I am, I am.

arrrgh! not sean!

goodnight folks

lates homeboy.

Whoa, u guys r sure into your starwars + starcraft
Do you sell valkyries or wraiths?

I will shortly.

hmm... ill go with the starcraft theme. Ill take one.
*money will be wired when order is ready*

(BEGIN ENCRYPTED TRANSMISSION)

Hello. It's me again.

I'd like to order 10 (ten) BCs more.

875 Bill wired.

Errr... I have an unusual question:

Could you paint them with the standard Tor Yvresse color scheme and markings?

If you can, please do so. And keep it secret.

If asked, you can confirm this purchase, but please DO NOT specify the customer.

Have a nice day.

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Though we realise that this may not be possible, The Brittanian AeroSpace Comission seeks to purchase a hull of one of these vessels, we do not require power generation, weapons or propulsion. Merely an Atmospherically sound Hull.

Can a deal be struck?

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Hello. It's me again.

I'd like to order 10 (ten) BCs more.

875 Bill wired.

Errr... I have an unusual question:

Could you paint them with the standard Tor Yvresse color scheme and markings?

If you can, please do so. And keep it secret.

If asked, you can confirm this purchase, but please DO NOT specify the customer.

Have a nice day.

(END ENCRYPTED TRANSMISSION)

OOC Marked for future referance when whatever Darksith has planned occurs. IC still oblivious obviously. Darksith TG me the Thread where you use these.

OOC:

It seems Mr. Tersanctus has either gone into vacation or left the game for good. He hasn't touched his nation for 13 days.

Besides, the purchase seems no longer necessary, but I will honor my word and acquire them nonetheless, if/when he gets back.

I intended to give them to you secretly as support in your (then) imminent war against Some Very Powerful Guy I won't name here.

Actually, I might need them more than you now, as yesterday (RL) I had a little clash with Some Other Very Powerful Gal I won't name here either and in the middle of it, I let out the little fact that I have the crown of Aragorn. I was sooo stupid as to describe the Silmaril! To an ELF!

I think she misunderstood me, as Aragorn is not elf, but I am slightly afraid.

We will buy 6 of these. Money will be wired automatically upon delivery.
You're cool....

Give us two
*Money Wired *
*Budget Blown for year :) *

Finally, it seems Mr. Tersanctus is back again. Now let's hope he remembers to check this thread...

Yes I am here sorry my computer is fried so I am at a 201 PC: I confirm the makes and colorings of your ten battlecruisers DarkSith.

Give us two
*Money Wired *
*Budget Blown for year :) *

You are a Newbie. You cannot buy, I am sorry.

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I hope your acknowledging message was encrypted, or I could be in very big problems with one Very Powerful Nation That Can Kick My Ass To Hell And Back. The ships were intended as a goodwill present (and covert help) to a third nation, but it seems that they are no longer needed. I will mothball them.

Don't worry about the delay. I understand all nations have unexpected problems. I hope you can solve yours.

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1 Helios-Class Multi-Role Heavy Assault Cruiser

total 87,5 billion

To dorga Morga,

My apologies, but being as new as you are it is unlikely that you are able to buy this craft please take the time to read "what godmoddng is" at the top of every page in international incedents.


In the future this will change and we hope that you will be a loyal customer of hye-tek.

Sincerley, Will Bates

CEO and founder of Hye-Tek

To dorga Morga,

My apologies, but being as new as you are it is unlikely that you are able to buy this craft please take the time to read "what godmoddng is" at the top of every page in international incedents.


In the future this will change and we hope that you will be a loyal customer of hye-tek.

Sincerley, Will Bates

CEO and founder of Hye-Tek

yes...I understand....

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(By the way, this is a strictly Space-tech post, it is not to interfere with present-tech or those nations whom do not wish to deal with it. Hye-Tek and Tersanctus are not responsible for irresponsible use of the awesome might of the Batlecruiser.)

Designation: Helios-Class Multi-Role Heavy Assault Cruiser


http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/1228/starcraft/bcv1.jpg




Background:The Helios-Class Battlecruiser combines Heavy Armament with Starfighter Landing Bays and Massive Troop and Artillery Transport Capability. Essentially, it is designed to turn the tide of virtually any battle and allow Massive reinforcements to be delivered planetside.


STATS:


Length: 7,900 meters
Hull: 85,450 SBD
Shields: 63,700 RU

Weapons:
250 Turbolasers
300 Heavy Turbolasers
300 Ion Cannons
50 Missile Launchers
15 Tractor Beam Projectors
1 Yamato Cannon (Special Weapon, can be fired only once every 15 minutes depending on energy usage, does damage comparable to a small nuclear blast.)

Ship Capacity:
12 Starfighter Landing bays with 3 fighters per bay
300 Transport Shuttle Bays 5 shuttles per bay, 50 personnel to a shuttle.
12,000 crew capacity and quarters
Quarter-Legion carrying capacity (tanks, troops, etc.)
Bays can hold(temporarily) Max 100,000 Troops and 50 Tanks/Artillery Equipment.

Speed:
Sub-light drive: .89 SLU
Hyperdrive: Newly Installed Class 4 Hyperdrive systems 56.8 FTLU

Range:
From 500 to 5,000,000 km The Missile Launchers allowing Planetary Bombardment.

Manuverability:
Low, but is compensated for by a large fighter capacity and Computer controlled Weaponry.

Yes this bad boy was designed for invasion and slaughter!
We have recently installed powerful sheilds that will absorb 67% of energy and matter weapons, plus an addition of a reflective alloy that disperses 54% of energy weapons and the extra thick hull is composed of a titanium-uranium matrix which is nearly impervious to matter attacks. Plus it is equipped with the latest in anti-proton/proton generators, and ion thrusters. Latest update! We have increased the hull and shield capacity nearly ten-fold making the Helios Battlecruiser nearly the strongest cruiser in its class and able to withstand extended battles, and tear through most Capitol Ships with ease!!

Cost:
87.5 billion per craft.


BBBWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!

*falls on ground*

TEEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEEEEEE!!!

*rolls on floor*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

*gasps for breath*

Heh...heh...heh...heh...heeeeeehhhhhhh.

*wipes tear from eye*

"Oh, god, I needed that. That was great. Thank you. Best laugh I've had in...a couple of days!"

-The Cardboard Avenger

Hang on hang on, for a space nation 87 BILLION is a good price. Wazzu he said 87 Billion not million.

Is you insane? That's way too expensive!! The normal price would be between $10-40 million for a helicopter. That is rediculous!

Cough!!
Godmoding!!
*Coughs again*
Ahem, excuse me, I must be getting a Godmoding Alert virus.

Someone should fire the IGNORE CANNON!!!

Woah! This thing is huge!! I will buy three. If you could name them the Daring, Audacity, and Suicidal Insanity that would be greatly appreciated. I would also like if you could paint them black and blue stripes, so it reminds the subjugees of a black eye.

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Hi!

I would like to purchase five (5) additional Battlecruisers. 437.5 Billion order on stand-by.

Also, I had the pride and joy of my fleet, the "Stuffed Leech", beat (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70110&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20) up to the point of having the FTL broken. As we have developed a different kind of FTL drive (Kearny-Fuchida), we cannot replace it. How much would it cost bringing the ship to your place and replace the drive?

You see, we have made the ship an on-site, mobile, Naval High Command, with all the communications, data-gathering and analysis and associated hardware, so it is quite an irreplaceable ship, as of now. We don't mind if you want to have a look-and-see of the modifications. Feel free to incorporate any you find useful in your ships. And I mean yours, not the ones for sale. :)

(OOC: I should have sent this quite a long ago, but I have been RPing with a puppet lately, and I forgot about the ship. Admiral Nautas is not happy about that. :))

I would like 12, money wired upon confirmation

Correct previous order, instead of five, make it ten (10). 875 Billion ready.

Have a nice day.

all orders confirmed and shipped

Thanks, money sent.

As for the other part, we can make as if already repaired the ship long ago. :)

Pwnica would like to order 10. 875 billion wired upon confirmation.

10 too Pwnica

I'll take it that was confirmation?
Money wired.

We would also like to purchase ten of these magnificent beasts a year for the next 5 years. We'll wire our money on approval of each order.

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i'll have 1*money wired* :( :) :D :o :P 8)

No you won't, because your budget is under 10 million.

The Kungshaoist Theocracy of Tersanctus
Received: 56 days ago OOC: Just wanted to let you know that I am meandering from the Helios Battlecruiser and am entitling all liscences, production rights and etc. Unto you, enjoy!

This shopping thread then, seems to be closed indefinitely. Eventually I'll open a selling thread, that will include the Helios.