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Su-34 FIGHTER BOMBER RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT FOR SALE.

27-06-2003, 16:28
Cost:25 million
it has a very low RCS, lower then the f15! and the guys at sukhoi claim it has smaller rcs then a cruise missile!
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~steven/images/su34_7.jpg
http://www.modelspot.com/su34fr.JPG
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su34/images/su34_6.jpg
The Su-34 has a changed contour of the nose section to accommodate an advanced multi-mode phased array radar with terrain following and terrain avoidance modes. It has a two-seat rather than single-seat cockpit. The capacity of the internal fuel tanks has been increased with a resulting increased take-off weight. Changes have been made to the central tail boom for a rear-facing radar.

carrier-launchable

COCKPIT

The cockpit has two K-36DM zero/zero ejection seats side by side for the pilot and copilot. The multifunction displays in the cockpit show the flight parameters, the operational status of the aircraft units and tactical data.

WEAPONS

The Su-34 is armed with a 30mm GSh-301 gun and 180 rounds of ammunition. The gun has a maximum rate of fire of 1,500 rounds per minute and the muzzle velocity is 860m/sec.

The aircraft has ten hardpoints for weapon payloads and is able to carry a range of missiles including air-to-air, air-to-surface, anti-ship and anti-radiation missiles, guided and unguided bombs, and rockets. The aircraft is fitted with a target designator.

The R-73 short-range air-to-air missile is an all-aspect missile capable of engaging targets in tail-chase or head-on mode. The missile has cooled infrared homing. The R-73 attacks the target within target designation angles of +/- 45 degrees and with angular rates up to 60 degrees per second. The missile can intercept targets at altitudes between 0.02 and 20km, target g-load to 12g, and with target speeds to 2,500kph.

The RVV-AE long-range air-to-air missile can intercept targets at speeds up to 3,600kph and altitudes from 0.02 to 25km. The minimum range in the aft hemisphere is 300m and the maximum vertical separation between the host aircraft and the target is 10km. The RR-77 has inertial guidance with mid-course radio updates and terminal active guidance. A new, longer-range (150km) version of the R-77, with solid fuel ram-jet propulsion, is being tested by Vympel.

The Su-34 carries a range of precision guided and unguided bombs and rockets, including the KAB-500 laser-guided bomb.

SYSTEMS

The Su-34 is equipped with an electro-optical fire control system and a Geofizika FLIR (forward-looking infrared) pod. and a passive phased array radar system and TsNIRTI the electronic countermeasures suite.

ENGINES

The aircraft is powered by two afterburning AL-31F or AL-35 turbofan engines. The engines are mounted under the wing and are equipped with all-duty fixed geometry air intakes. A rotor protection installed in the air intakes provides protection against the ingestion of foreign objects.

The aircraft can carry 12,100kg of fuel internally in two fuel tanks in the wings and four in the fuselage. Three external fuel tanks, each with a capacity of 3,000 litres, can also be fitted.

The aircraft can achieve a speed of 1,900kph (Mach 1.6) at altitude and 1,300kph (Mach 1) at sea level.

SPECIFICATION
Crew
2
Dimensions

Length
23.34 metres
Height
6.36 metres
Wing span
14.05 metres
Weight

Normal take-off weight
39,000 kg
Maximum take-off weight
45,100 kg
Normal combat load weight
4,000 kg
Maximum combat load weight
8,000 kg
Fuel, internal tanks
12,100 kg
Fuel with external fuel tanks
19,300 kg
Performance

Maximum g-load
7g
Speed

Maximum low altitude speed
1,300 km/hr
Maximum high altitude speed
1,900 km/hr
Service ceiling
14,000 metres
Runway

Take-off run
1,260 metres
Landing run
2,100 metres
Landing run with brake parachute
950 metres
Range

Near ground radius of action, at 900 km/hr and normal combat load, internal fuel tanks
600 kilometres
Near ground radius of action, at 900 km/hour and normal combat load, with external fuel tanks
1,130 kilometres
Ferry range with external fuel tanks
4,500 kilometres
Weapons

Gun
one GSh-301
Ammunition
180 rounds
Firing rate
1,500 rounds per minute
Missiles
R-73 short range air-to-air missile

Air-to-air missiles,target designation for air-to-air missiles

High precision autonomous air-to-surface missiles

Guided air-to-surface missiles

Anti-radiation missiles

Air to ship missiles

Controlled and guided aerial bombs

Unguided bombs and rockets
R-73 air-to-air missile

Maximum launch weight
105 kg
Warhead
7.3 kilograms, rod type
Guidance
cooled infra-red
Dimensions

Length
2.9 metres
Diameter
0.17 metres
Fin span
0.51 metres
Maximum launch range
20 kilometres
Minimum range of aft hemisphere launch
300 metres
Target acceleration g load
12g
Kill probability fighter target
0.6
Maximum target speed
2,500 km/h
Target altitudes
0.02 to 20 km
RW-AE medium range air-to-air missile

Launch weight
175 kg
Warhead
21 kg, rod type
Guidance
Active radar homing, radio corrected inertial navigation for on-trajectory target lock-on and missile retargeting
Maximum target speed
3,600 km/h
Target acceleration g load
12g
Kill probability fighter target
0.7
Dimensions

Length
3.6 metres
Diameter
0.2 metres
Fin span
0.75 metres
Target altitude
0.02 to 25 kilometre
Minimum range of aft hemisphere launch
300 metres
Maximum vertical separation of target and host aircraft and target
10 kilometres

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Allanea
27-06-2003, 16:29
How many would 162 billion get us?
Omz222
27-06-2003, 16:30
100 please
The South Islands
27-06-2003, 16:31
We will take 400 of them. Money will, as usuall, be wired on conformation of order.
27-06-2003, 16:32
100 please

2 and a half billion.
Omz222
27-06-2003, 16:32
Money wired. Thx!
27-06-2003, 16:33
We will take 400 of them. Money will, as usuall, be wired on conformation of order.

confirmed.
The South Islands
27-06-2003, 16:34
*Money Wired*
Iraqstan
27-06-2003, 16:43
The President General would like to purchase 200 of these formidable craft. Money as always will be wired on confirmation.

OOC: Few hours to a day again? :P
27-06-2003, 16:45
The President General would like to purchase 200 of these formidable craft. Money as always will be wired on confirmation.

OOC: Few hours to a day again? :P

confirmed, and yes few hours :mrgreen:
Iraqstan
27-06-2003, 16:46
money wired...as usual :)
Edolia
27-06-2003, 16:48
Before I purchase any, I would like to know something. It is cheaper than most "F" series aircraft. How does it compare to say... the F-14? F-22?
Allanea
27-06-2003, 16:52
I'm ordering
6480 SU-34's for 162 bilion.
27-06-2003, 16:54
I'm ordering
6480 SU-34's for 162 bilion.

confirmed.
27-06-2003, 16:58
Before I purchase any, I would like to know something. It is cheaper than most "F" series aircraft. How does it compare to say... the F-14? F-22?


this is not an interceptor, if you want an interceptor buy the mig-31
it got a greater range, with air-tot air refeulling the can fly over 10 hours missions
And the Mig-31's are designed to operate without GCI(Ground Controlled Intercept) or ACI (Air Controlled Intercept) The Mig-31 can operate as an mini-awacs. MiG-31s are most often used in group of four (or even eight), linked together by datalink. Operating together, four MiG-31s can cover a strip of territory 900 km (560 miles) across, and targets can be transferred rapidly from one aircraft to another, with all aircraft sharing the same image on their tactical situation displays
The F-14 can fly at speeds up to Mach 2 It has an Max mach number of 2.35 and and cruise mach number 1.2.
While the Mig-31 can fly mach 2.85 (only for twenty minutes) and the Mig 31 has and cruising speed of mach 2.35 and can fly at this speeds for an longer time
The mission radius of an Mig-31 used as an interceptor is 1135 nm. The mission radias of an F-14 is 500 nm. This is without refeulling.
Its Radar is one of the most powerfull ever designed for a combat aircraft. The Mig-31 is faster, and does have a marginaly better service ceiling than the F-14D.
mig31 has an edge over the tomact, for reaosns of speed, range, Data link up and also the number and nature of the targets it can engage.
Edolia
27-06-2003, 17:00
Before I purchase any, I would like to know something. It is cheaper than most "F" series aircraft. How does it compare to say... the F-14? F-22?


this is not an interceptor, if you want an interceptor buy the mig-31
it got a greater range, with air-tot air refeulling the can fly over 10 hours missions
And the Mig-31's are designed to operate without GCI(Ground Controlled Intercept) or ACI (Air Controlled Intercept) The Mig-31 can operate as an mini-awacs. MiG-31s are most often used in group of four (or even eight), linked together by datalink. Operating together, four MiG-31s can cover a strip of territory 900 km (560 miles) across, and targets can be transferred rapidly from one aircraft to another, with all aircraft sharing the same image on their tactical situation displays
The F-14 can fly at speeds up to Mach 2 It has an Max mach number of 2.35 and and cruise mach number 1.2.
While the Mig-31 can fly mach 2.85 (only for twenty minutes) and the Mig 31 has and cruising speed of mach 2.35 and can fly at this speeds for an longer time
The mission radius of an Mig-31 used as an interceptor is 1135 nm. The mission radias of an F-14 is 500 nm. This is without refeulling.
Its Radar is one of the most powerfull ever designed for a combat aircraft. The Mig-31 is faster, and does have a marginaly better service ceiling than the F-14D.
mig31 has an edge over the tomact, for reaosns of speed, range, Data link up and also the number and nature of the targets it can engage.

Alright. I'll purchase 2,000. That comes out to $50 billion.
27-06-2003, 17:02
confirmed.
Soviet Haaregrad
27-06-2003, 17:35
Sorry to hijack your thread but the Su 27 series are low observable fighters. They have a radar signature around that of the EF 2000 Typhoon/Eurofighter, which was also designed for low observability. The Su 27, 30, 33, 34, 35, 37 is also a much larger aircraft. Low obserability = stealth for anyone who didn't know.
27-06-2003, 17:40
I'll gladly purchase 100. Money is being wired...
27-06-2003, 17:41
id like to buy 2 planes for 50 million
27-06-2003, 17:44
ill hav 2 million plz and ur all goin down

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
27-06-2003, 17:47
all is confirmed, no not you're order Glax..
27-06-2003, 17:50
Can i buy 2 planes 4 50 million
Soviet Haaregrad
27-06-2003, 17:53
We are evaluating our need for a tactical strike aircraft at his time. Might we be able to lease a few in order to see how they fit in with our requirements? We already operate the Su 37 which makes this aircraft very attractive to us.
27-06-2003, 17:53
We are evaluating our need for a tactical strike aircraft at his time. Might we be able to lease a few in order to see how they fit in with our requirements? We already operate the Su 37 which makes this aircraft very attractive to us.

of course.
27-06-2003, 17:55
if i can buy 2 planes 4 50 million then send me a telegram
Soviet Haaregrad
27-06-2003, 18:10
We are evaluating our need for a tactical strike aircraft at his time. Might we be able to lease a few in order to see how they fit in with our requirements? We already operate the Su 37 which makes this aircraft very attractive to us.

of course.

Excellent. Pheonix Air Systems have commented on wishing to get a licence for this aircraft. We have cleared information on the TF525 ultra-high effieciency turbofan engine, with perhaps the highest thrust to weight ratio of any engine. Cash is also a possible payment plan.
Scandavian States
27-06-2003, 19:00
120 please
27-06-2003, 23:30
We would like 200 for a total of 5 billion.

money will be wired when order is confirmed
27-06-2003, 23:59
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Haverton
28-06-2003, 00:56
Pfft, even with an All-Consuming economy, a 29 mil population could not have the sufficiant funds to buy 1,000 planes, and then service them. I highly recommend you not transact this order, as Thunk the god is the same as the imfamous godmoder of Arcel...

I myself would like 100. That should come to 2.5 billion. Money when confirmed
Lunatic Retard Robots
28-06-2003, 00:59
Finally some appreciation for such a fine craft!!!! We already use them, though. Could we contact you for replacement aircraft, perhaps?
28-06-2003, 01:25
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28-06-2003, 12:57
all is confirmed, except thunk the dumbass.
The Seraphim Fleet
28-06-2003, 13:04
I'd like to order 100 of these with no main cannons and no engines.
28-06-2003, 13:05
I'd like to order 100 of these with no main cannons and no engines.

ok.. may i ask why?
The Seraphim Fleet
28-06-2003, 13:11
I'd like to order 100 of these with no main cannons and no engines.

ok.. may i ask why?

Because we fit all planes with our own engines and we may or may not even use a main cannon.

XR-115 Rambacked Turbofans are our standard propulsion, and we believe they would make this great plane even more effective.
28-06-2003, 13:14
alright, transfer the money and we will send them out.
The Seraphim Fleet
28-06-2003, 13:16
alright, transfer the money and we will send them out.

bling bling
Scandavian States
28-06-2003, 14:11
Money has been wired.
07-07-2003, 11:17
bump
07-07-2003, 19:12
bump
07-07-2003, 19:13
Are they carrier-launchable?
07-07-2003, 19:14
Are they carrier-launchable?

of course
07-07-2003, 19:15
how much for 138?
07-07-2003, 19:21
how much for 138?

3,450,000,000

wire the money and they will be on the way.
07-07-2003, 19:23
*money wired*
24-09-2003, 13:01
WE'd like to order 200 thanks, imoney will be paid on confermation
24-09-2003, 15:38
Florence Road will take 60 of the Su-34
Aircraft please.

Funds transmitted to you.
24-09-2003, 15:40
*************************************************************
HELLO KLAMATH!!!! Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your nine o'clock alarm call!
(Takes Klamath out of the cage and thumps its head on the counter. Throws it up in the air and watches it plummet to the floor.)
C: Now that's what I call a dead nation.
O: No, no.....No, 'e's stunned!
C: STUNNED?!?
O: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was waking up! KLAMATH stuns easily, major.
C: Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That nation is definitely deceased, and when I purchased it not 'alf an hour ago, you assured me that its total lack of movement was due to it being tired and shagged out following a prolonged squawk.
O: Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for the fjords.
C: PINING for the FJORDS?!?!?!?What kind of talk is that?, look, why did he fall flat on his back the moment I got 'im home?
O: Klamath prefers keeping on it's back! Remarkable nation, id'nit, squire? Lovely plumage!
C: Look, I took the liberty of examining that nation when Igot it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting on its perch in the first place was that it had been NAILED there. (pause)
O: Well, o'course it was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that nation down, it would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent 'em apart with its beak, and VOOM!
C: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this nation wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleeding demised!
O: No no! 'E's pining!
C: 'E's not pining! 'E's passed on! This nation is no more! He hasceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleeding choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-NATION!!

*************************************************************

Guys, guys....he's dead. Therefore he's not selling anything. Note the last time he did was July 7.
24-09-2003, 15:48
This reminds me of the old Vigilante Bomber:

http://members.aol.com/ac5zt/stott/me/vigilante.jpg

A fighter turned into a recon plane....
United Elias
24-09-2003, 15:49
yeah I liked the Vigilante...
24-09-2003, 15:52
A lot got shot in 'Nam though...

Documentary on last night, Discovery Wings.

Thats how it reminded me...

Oh well, back to the sales, no thread hijacking.
24-09-2003, 15:53
There can be no hijacking if the nation is DEAD!
24-09-2003, 15:55
oh....

FREE FOR ALL!!!!!!!
Soviet Haaregrad
24-09-2003, 16:05
I can handle those two orders. I sell the Su 34. :D
24-09-2003, 16:08
hehe

Oh well, 15 while your at it......

Sneaky fuck....
Soviet Haaregrad
24-09-2003, 16:14
hehe

Oh well, 15 while your at it......

Sneaky f---....

Expect your order to arrive within the next hour RT. Well, you know, after we get paid. ;)
24-09-2003, 16:18
Money Wired

I shoulds come up with that idea.....
24-09-2003, 16:37
I purchase 24 Su-34
Soviet Haaregrad
24-09-2003, 18:00
24 Su 34 Strike Flankers are being completed for you, they will arrive with in 30 minutes RT after cash is recieved.
Soviet Haaregrad
24-09-2003, 20:41
bump
Lynxy_turd
24-09-2003, 20:51
I would like to have 2000 of these airplanes!
This will cost me 4 billion!
*****Money wired*******
Soviet Haaregrad
24-09-2003, 21:02
I would like to have 2000 of these airplanes!
This will cost me 4 billion!
*****Money wired*******

That's a big order, and you must be missing a zero, as 2000 Su 34s @ $4 000 000 000 = $2 000 000 per aircraft. Try $40 000 000 000(40 billion).

[edit]
After doing the calculations, an order of 2 000 aircraft comes to $50 000 000 000($50 billion). We can discount this to $40 000 000 000($40 billion) due to it's bulk, with deliveries of 200 aircraft monthly for the next 10 months.
24-09-2003, 21:04
3 planes
*money wired*
24-09-2003, 21:05
8) how much would 85 billion Vuhifell Dollars get me and my people
Soviet Haaregrad
24-09-2003, 21:12
Erasers, 3 aircraft are on their way. Enjoy.

Vuhifell, what is your exchange rate? If it is 1:1 with USD then you can get 4 250 at the bulk discount rate of $20 000 000 per unit. We'll give them on the same time scale as the other large order. You may wish to wait on this order as it represents a very large percentage of your budget, and may possibly bankrupt your nation.
24-09-2003, 21:41
nah it wont I just spent over a couple trilion dolloars on Nuclear weapons and now im gonna sell um on the black market hehehehehe
United Elias
24-09-2003, 21:43
A better aircraft is currently in development, please check this out.


http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73661
24-09-2003, 22:32
A better aircraft is already available. (it's even got a cool logo!)


http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73707
Soviet Haaregrad
25-09-2003, 02:29
Please no hi-jacking, I stole this thread fair and square.

Besides I sell a better aircraft too, well better in some ways. The only Su 34s I use are lightened slightly and optimised for land-based missions.

A-24A AMPSB Advanced MultiPurpose Strike Bomber

Primary Function: Multipurpose tactical fighter bomber
Contractor: Pan-Haaregradian Defence Institute
Power Plant: 4x TF525-420 9 500lb thrust turbofan engines
Length: 53 feet, 6 inches (16.0 meters)
Height: 15 feet (4.5 meters).
Wingspan: 37 feet, 6 inches (11.25 meters)
Ceiling: 60 000-plus feet (18 200 meters)
Speed: Mach 2.2 at high altitude, clean with full internal bomb load, more then Mach 1 at all altitudes, Mach 0.89 with full weapons load
Range: 2 000 miles(3 200km) on internal fuel only, 3 400 miles(5 440km) with internal and 4x 370 gallon(1 485L)drop tanks
Empty Weight: 24 000lbs (10 910kg)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 62 000lbs (27 270kg)
Armament: 1 30mm turett cannon, 2 AA-11 Archer AAM for self defence, up to 12 000lbs(5 455kg) of stores internally in main bomb bay, up to 12 000lbs(5 455kg) of stores externally on four hardpoints
Unit cost: $48 000 000
Crew: Two, pilot and weapon systems officer
Current Versions:
A-24A Avenger - land based, low observability strike bomber
A-24B Avenger - carrier based, low observability strike bomber
U-24A Avenger - land or carrier based, low observability utility and Carrier Onboard Delivery aircraft
MU-24A Avenge Blue - land or carrier based covert insertion/resupply aircraft
S-24A Avenger - carrier or land based ASW aircraft
E-24A Avenger - carrier based Airborne Early Warning and Control aircraft
E-24B Avenger - carrier or land based Electronic Counter Measures and Signal Intellgence aircraft
B-24A Avenger - medium bomber/cruise missile platform, no longer in service, all converted to A-24A Avenger standard

http://haaregradia.20megsfree.com/storefront/ampsb.htm
Soviet Haaregrad
25-09-2003, 04:06
Oww! I musta tripped over a bump in this thread.
Soviet Haaregrad
26-09-2003, 18:43
bump
Soviet Haaregrad
27-09-2003, 06:19
*kick*
Omz222
27-09-2003, 06:21
Very interesting.

We will order:

216x A-24A Avenger = $10.36 billion
27-09-2003, 06:29
1 for target practice :twisted:
Soviet Haaregrad
28-09-2003, 00:22
1 for target practice :twisted:

Confirmed, but remember, the Su 30/32/34/35/37 owns the F-15 in everything except amount of ordinance able to be carried.

Omz222, your order has been confirmed, check TGs.
Soviet Haaregrad
28-09-2003, 06:30
bump
_Taiwan
28-09-2003, 06:40
Please no hi-jacking, I stole this thread fair and square.


LOL :lol: :lol:
28-09-2003, 13:30
Su-34 Fighter/Bomber x 25 = $625,000,000

Money will be wiring on confirmation, thanks.
28-09-2003, 14:06
Since you stated they were designed to operate in groups of four, we would like to purchase four.

Premier Nikita S. Khrushchev II
Leader of Terepa
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/terepa.jpg
http://novaonline.nvcc.edu/eli/evans/HIS135/photos/khrushchev.jpg
Workers of the World Unite
Soviet Haaregrad
29-09-2003, 03:12
Orders confirmed.
Soviet Haaregrad
29-09-2003, 22:19
bump
Arribastan
29-09-2003, 22:26
I'll buy 20.
i'm a june/july nation. ignore the date
Soviet Haaregrad
29-09-2003, 22:31
I'll buy 20.
i'm a june/july nation. ignore the date

Confirmed, but even a brand new nation with a decent economy could afford 20-40 of them, at least maintenance wise.
Soviet Haaregrad
02-10-2003, 03:05
bump for the best strike plane ever!
Omz222
02-10-2003, 03:15
We will order another 216 A-24B Avenger = $10.36 billion.
Soviet Haaregrad
02-10-2003, 03:35
We will order another 216 A-24B Avenger = $10.36 billion.

Confirmed, enjoy.
Omz222
02-10-2003, 03:47
Money wired, thank you.

Our compliments to you for making such a great aircraft.
Soviet Haaregrad
02-10-2003, 03:54
Money wired, thank you.

Our compliments to you for making such a great aircraft.

The A-24 was actually the first aircraft I designed for the game, way back in late May/early June.
Soviet Haaregrad
03-10-2003, 02:50
bump
Soviet Haaregrad
04-10-2003, 17:34
bump
Soviet Haaregrad
05-10-2003, 01:55
bump

SU 34 STRIKE FLANKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 OMFG i7 pWN3z j00 4ll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
Soviet Haaregrad
05-10-2003, 21:21
Pilots claim a Su 34 can drop a bomb on an officers' hat, now that's accuracy!
Allanea
06-10-2003, 14:56
How many can I buy for 100 billion?
Soviet Haaregrad
08-10-2003, 03:52
How many can I buy for 100 billion?

2 500 of 'em
08-10-2003, 04:53
I'll take 100 of these aircraft.

Money will be wired upon order confirmation
Soviet Haaregrad
09-10-2003, 05:33
I'll take 100 of these aircraft.

Money will be wired upon order confirmation

Confirmed.
Pwnica
09-10-2003, 07:03
Pwnica orders 72 SU-34s.
Money wired upon confirmation of order.

Signed,
Xavier Methnor, Prime Minister of Pwnica
09-10-2003, 07:24
stop selling in my thread :P, get out!, ill bbl with another nation.
09-10-2003, 07:59
i'll have 2000*required money wired* :P
Pwnica
09-10-2003, 08:28
i'll have 2000*required money wired* :P

Yeah freakin' right. There's no way you can afford that much.
I doubt you'll even be able to afford 50.
Soviet Haaregrad
10-10-2003, 03:36
stop selling in my thread :P, get out!, ill bbl with another nation.

I was just keeping it warm. ;) Just bump me out by confirming before me and I'll hand it back over.
Soviet Haaregrad
10-10-2003, 03:40
Pwnica, order confirmed.
Hitlers bottom, order denied: lack of funds. TG me and we can discuss a payment plan.
Soviet Haaregrad
10-10-2003, 03:42
Pwnica, order confirmed.
Hitlers bottom, order denied, lack of funds.

Anyways, you don't want an air force of just Fullbacks, you need fighters too, and Flankers or Fulcrums are much better fighters then Fullbacks.
19-10-2003, 19:25
:D i will take 200 of them


5 billion. Money has been sent.