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OOC: Its just a Merkava Mk 4 with a snorkel for deep fording, but the Merkava 4 is a good tank.

The Bisonic Defense Initiatives Agency (BDIA) has announced the development of the Merkava Mk 5 (to be called Storm Eagle II in Bisonic Service, all Sotrm Eagles will be rebuilt to this standard).



The tank is capable of carrying eight infantry soldiers, a Command Group or three litter patients (stretcher casualties) in addition to the tank crew of commander, loader, gunner and driver. The tank is capable of firing on the move at moving targets and has demonstrated high hit probability in firing against attack helicopters using conventional anti-tank munitions.

Major contractors include: the El Op Electro-Optic Industries subsidiary of Elbit Systems which is responsible for the fire control system; the Israel Defence Force which carries out main construction and system integration and testing; Bisonic Military Industries for the supply of the main gun, ballistic protection and munitions; Imco Industries for the electrical systems; Urdan Industries for the hull, main turret and castings; and IAI Ramta for protection components.

The main part of the tank production, the construction of the hull and integration of all the systems is carried out in the Bisonic Defence Force Workshop.

TANK WEAPONRY
The Merkava 4 has a new all electric turret developed by Elbit and subsidiary El-Op. Only one hatch is installed in the turret, the commander's hatch.

The improved 120mm smooth bore gun has been developed by Israel Military Industries. The new gun is an advanced generation of the gun developed for the Merkava 3. A Vidco thermal shroud on the gun reduces bending of the barrel resulting from environmental and firing conditions. The gun can fire higher power munitions including new 120mm high penetration projectiles and guided shells. The loader can select semi-automatically the ammunition type. The tank carries 48 rounds of ammunition each stored in a protective container. An electrically operated revolving magazine contains 10 ready-to-fire rounds.

The range of ammunition includes APFSDS-T M711 (CL 3254), the HEAT-MP-T M325 (CL 3105) and the TPCSDS-T M324 (CL 3139) supplied by the Ammunition Group of Israel Military Industries. The gun is also capable of firing French, German or US 120mm rounds.

The tank is fitted with 7.62mm machine guns and an internally operated 60mm mortar system developed by Soltam Ltd. The mortar can fire explosive and illumination rounds to a range of 2,700m.

The protection suite includes an advanced electromagnetic threat identification and warning system.

EL OP FIRE CONTROL
The new fire control system, developed by El Op, includes very advanced features including the capability to acquire and lock onto moving targets, even airborne helicopters, while the tank itself is on the move.

The computer controlled fire control system includes line of sight stabilisation in two axes, a second-generation television sight and automatic thermal target tracker, a laser range finder, an improved thermal night vision system and a dynamic cant angle indicator. The commander's station is fitted with a stabilised panoramic day and night sight. The integrated operating system includes advanced data communications and battle management. Tadiran developed the Merkava's communications system, the inter communication system and the VRC 120 vehicular transceiver radio with embedded auxiliary receivers

GD 883 V-12 DIESEL ENGINE
The Merkava 5 is powered by a V-12 diesel engine rated at 1,500hp. The engine compartment and one fuel tank are at the front of the tank and two fuel tanks are at the back. The new engine represents a 25% increase in power compared to the 1,200hp powerpack installed on the Merkava 3.

The German company MTU manufactures the engine components and the GD 883 engine is manufactured under licensed production by General Dynamics Land Systems in the USA. The engine is transferred to Israel for installation and integration with the automatic transmission and with the engine computer control system. The tank has automatic five-gear transmission rather than four gears as in the Merkava 3. The transmission system is manufactured by Renk. The single position rotary shock absorbers are installed externally.

The Merkava 5 is fitted with a snorkel for deep fording which allows the tank to cross rivers up to 6 meters deep. This system can be activated in 20 minutes.

HULL
The redesign of the hull around the installation of the new powerpack has provided improved frontal armour protection and improvement to the driver's field of view. For improved reverse driving the driver uses a camera.

A new feature of the tank is that the fitted modular special armour covers the turret. The tank is protected against a range of threats, including air launched precision guided missiles and advanced and top attack anti-tank weapons. Automatic fire detection and suppression has been installed. The underside of the hull has been fitted with additional armour protection against mines. The driver and crew compartments are equipped with heating and cooling air conditioning and a Shalon Chemical Industries combined individual and overpressure protection systems against contamination by NBC warfare.

http://merkava.defense-update.com/merkava-mk4-2.jpg

A Merkava 5 costs $5 mil, $4.5 mil for TGPA members.

And they've been proven in battle against kids armed with rocks!

And they've been proven in battle against kids armed with rocks!

Hey, come on, some of them had Ak-47's!


Still, if only one was kocked out in about 3 years, its not too bad.

My tactics actually call for the town to be demolished and bypassed, but some idiopts actually care about civilians.

I would like to purchase 1000 of these tanks for how ever that much costs.

I would like to purchase 1000 of these tanks for how ever that much costs.

Purchase of 1000 tanks for $5 billion confirmed, thank you for your purchase.

THe tnaks will be shipped sometime tommorow.

We shall take 100 units. Payment has been wired. We await your delivery.

We shall take 100 units. Payment has been wired. We await your delivery.

Thank you for your purchase, that comes to $500 million.


They will be delievered tommorow.

I want 100 units please.

I want 100 units please.

Purchase confirmed, that comes to $500 mil.


Delievery late tommorow.

I want 100 units please.

Purchase confirmed, that comes to $500 mil.


Delievery late tommorow.

Money has been sent.

SOmetimes, tanks can drive over BUMPs.

I will take 100 tanks please.

I will take 100 tanks please.

Purchase confirmed, that comes to $500 mil.

Why not call it the Merkava Mk 4A? (I ask because I want my designation back :P I've been making limited slaes of a Merkava with Soviet equipment called the Mk 5 for awhile)

I already use these things because my nation is so small and the tank was built with crew survivability in mind. They work great!

Bah...the Russian Black Eagle can crush that tank in no time :wink:

Bah...the Russian Black Eagle can crush that tank in no time :wink:


I use both, the Merkava and the Black Eagle each have their own strengths and weaknesses, the Merkava weighs alot and is kinda slow, but has an assload of armour, and has the engine in the front to add to the armour if it's pierced.

what's a black eagle?

ooc: and somebody please explain to me what "bump" means.

I'm not familiar with the Black Eagle, either.

OOC: Yeah! What the heck is a "BUMP"? Is that like saying "Ditto" or something?

The Holy Empire of Byzantine Territories would like to request a price for the technical blueprints and manufacturing rights to the Merkava.

Black Eagle is a Russian project tank that, when in production, will be 1.5 times better than the Abrams..125mm cannon that can destroy 1000 mm of armor...the Abrams "only" has 800mm..

Black Eagle is a Russian project tank that, when in production, will be 1.5 times better than the Abrams..125mm cannon that can destroy 1000 mm of armor...the Abrams "only" has 800mm..



Hehe we both read that propaganda pravde article.



The Black Eagle is bad at urban fighting, but can blow up other tanks at 5km, whereas this can be considered a heavy APC good for urban fighting (yes, heavy APC is my purpose for it).

looks so :P

I will buy 20 of those my good man! :D

I will take 100 tanks please.

Purchase confirmed, that comes to $500 mil.
Money wired

I will buy 20 of those my good man! :D


Confirmed, that comes to $100 mil.

1000 of those plz

1000 of those plz

Thank you for your purchase, that comes to $5 bil.


yay, 3500 sold.

Money wired. Thx!

Money wired. Thx!


Expect delievery sometime late tommorow.

Thanks for the info, Rokolev. The Black Eagle sounds like a good tank. I'm pretty small, though. Most of my armor divisions are Merkavas because, like I said, they help keep my soldiers alive. I've only got a few divisions of Abrams but after hearing about these Black Eagles, I might change. Anyone wanna sell me the plans for them?

Thanks for the info, Rokolev. The Black Eagle sounds like a good tank. I'm pretty small, though. Most of my armor divisions are Merkavas because, like I said, they help keep my soldiers alive. I've only got a few divisions of Abrams but after hearing about these Black Eagles, I might change. Anyone wanna sell me the plans for them?

I dont sell plans, but heres the Black Egale:

The Bisonic Defense Initiatives Agency (BDIA) has developed an upgraded version of the T-80 known as the Black Eagle. Thermal imaging is standard.
Weight: 50 tonsLength: 6,982 m Width: 3,582 mHeight: 1,80 mArmour: active mmGun: 125 mmCrew; 3(-5?)Engine: 16/1200 hpsturbo dieselSpeed: 54 km/h "Tjorny Aryol" (Black Eagle) was shown for the first time at an international exhibition of armaments in Russia in 1997 (picture). This tank has a entirey new thinking where the turret don't have any crew inside. They dwell in the main hull separated from the main gun ammunition that is stored in the rear and under the turret. The fireing system has automatic loading which increases the rate of fire. Minister of armaments, said (1997) Russia will be able to make 350 unit a year by 2005. It should have come into service in 1999, but did not. Rumors (in 2001) say it will be produced for export only and not be used by the Russia army. Time will tell.


Armament:

The Black Eagle armament includes one 125 mm 2A46M smoothbore gun, stabilized in two axes and fitted with a thermal sleeve. The gun tube can be replaced without dismantling inside the turret. The gun can fire a variety of ammunition including APDS (Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot), HEAT (High Explosive Anti-Tank), HE-FRAG (High Explosive Fragmentation) as well as shrapnel projectiles with time fuses.

The Black Eagle gun can also fire the 9M119 Refleks (NATO designation AT-11 Sniper) anti-tank guided missile system. The range of the missile is 100 - 4,000 m and takes 11.7 sec to reach maximum range. The system is intended to engage tanks fitted with ERA (Explosive Reactive Armour) as well as low-flying air targets such as helicopters, at a range of up to 5 km. The missile system fires either the 9M119 or 9M119M missiles which have semi-automatic laser beamriding guidance and a hollow charge warhead. Missile weight is 23.4 kg. The guns automatic loader will feed both ordnance and missiles.
Also fitted is a coaxial 7.62 mm PKT machine gun and a 12.7 mm air defense machine gun. A 5.45 mm AKS-74 assault rifle is carried on a storage rack
Armor:

The Black Eagle tank is protected by both conventional armor plating and explosive reactive armor (ERA). It is known as the Kaktus (Cactus) and is among the latest in armor technology.
The Black Eagle is fitted with the Shtora-1. This system includes infrared jammer, laser warning system with four laser warning receivers, grenade discharging system which produces an aerosol screen and a computerized control system.
It is also fitted with NBC (nuclear, biological and chemical) protection equipment.

Propulsion:
The Black Eagle has a 1240 hp turbocharged engine. This engine can be fuelled by T-2 or TS-1 kerosene and A-72 benzine, in addition to diesel. The tank can carry up to 1,600 litres of fuel in the main fuel tanks and fuel drums. The fuel tanks are reinforced with armor plating.
The tank is provided with a snorkel for deep fording and can ford 5 metres of water with equipment which can be deployed in 20 minutes.
The mechanical transmission includes primary reduction gear, two planetary final gearboxes and two planetary final drives. The running gear features torsion bar suspension with hydraulic shock absorbers at 1, 2 and 6 road wheel stations and tracks with rubber-metallic pin hinges.
Fire Control:
The Black Eagle has the 1A4GT integrated fire control system (IFCS) which is automatic but with manual override for the commander. The IFCS contains the gunner's 1A43 day fire control system, gunner's TO1-KO1 thermal imaging sight which has a target identification range of 1.2 km to 1.5 km and commander's PNK-S sight.
The gunner's 1A43 day FCS comprises: 1G46 day sight/rangefinder with missile guidance channel, 2E42-4 armament stabilizer, 1V528 ballistic computer and DVE-BS wind gauge.
The commander's PNK-4S sight includes a TKN-4S (Agat-S) day/night sight which has identification ranges of 800 m (day) and 700 m (night).
The driver is equipped with a TVN-5 infrared night viewer.

http://armor.kiev.ua/fofanov/Tanks/MBT/b_eagle5.jpg

It costs $5.5 million, or $ 5 million for TGPA and UAAOT members.

in a few words: the best tank ever :)

OOC: The Black Eagle is a Soviet T-80? Or the Black Eagle is you upgraded version of the T-80? I'm leafing through my "Armored Fighting Vehicles" (Copyright 1999) book while typing this and I'm getting a little confused.

It's a new tank based on the T-80

OOC: The Black Eagle is a Soviet T-80? Or the Black Eagle is you upgraded version of the T-80? I'm leafing through my "Armored Fighting Vehicles" (Copyright 1999) book while typing this and I'm getting a little confused.

Its a heavy upgrade of the T-80.

OOC: Okay. Thanks. Now I'm not so confused. :D

IC: I'd like to order 5,000. Payment is on its way.

Economy: Fragile <---- how are you going to pay 5000 of them?

OOC: Okay. Thanks. Now I'm not so confused. :D

IC: I'd like to order 5,000. Payment is on its way.Isnt 5,000 a bit too much? DO you have $27.5 billion to spare?

the wolven warriors would like to buy 100 of your fine exampels of a tank.





the wolven warriors
head defencee
manwarg

the wolven warriors would like to buy 100 of your fine exampels of a tank.





the wolven warriors
head defencee
manwarg


Confirmed, that comes to $500 mil (assuming you want the Merkavas)

OOC: *Mumbles a few explatives* My economy apparently likes to drop three categories every day. Sorry for not catching that. Thanks for keeping me honest. Math ain't my best subject, either. If they're goin' for $5.5 million per unit then...

IC: Make that....a cancelled order....

OOC: *Mumbles a few explatives* My economy apparently likes to drop three categories every day. Sorry for not catching that. Thanks for keeping me honest. Math ain't my best subject, either. If they're goin' for $5.5 million per unit then...

IC: Make that....a cancelled order....

If you want to buy a smaller amount Ill sell em.

I already have my 50... :)

By the way...The Bisons...what can you tell me abaout the new MiG-35?

By the way...The Bisons...what can you tell me abaout the new MiG-35?
THis:

http://www.strange-mecha.com/aircraft/Ente/mig1-44.jpg


Here are the stats. It is capable of launching such delights as the KS-172 (range: 250 miles) for knocking out pesky AWACS and bombers.

Type: MiG/MAPO 1.42
Function: Multirole Fighter
Crew: 1
Engines: 2 * Two three-dimensional thrust-vectoring Saturn/Lyulka AL-41F turbofans, capable of 44,100 lb of thrust in afterburner
Wing Span: 16.40 m
Length: 20.00 m
Height: 5.60 m
Max.Weight: 34500 kg
Empty Weight: 16500 kg
Speed: 2450 km/h
Ceiling: 18945 m
Range: 4000 km
Armament: 1*cannon 30 mm
6000kg
12 internal hardpoints
Cost: $70 mil, $65 mil for TGPA members.

how different are they from mirkava 4?

how different are they from mirkava 4?
They have a deep fording snorkel.

i would like to buy 20 units
********wire money*******

By the way...The Bisons...what can you tell me abaout the new MiG-35?
THis:

http://www.strange-mecha.com/aircraft/Ente/mig1-44.jpg


Here are the stats. It is capable of launching such delights as the KS-172 (range: 250 miles) for knocking out pesky AWACS and bombers.

Type: MiG/MAPO 1.42
Function: Multirole Fighter
Crew: 1
Engines: 2 * Two three-dimensional thrust-vectoring Saturn/Lyulka AL-41F turbofans, capable of 44,100 lb of thrust in afterburner
Wing Span: 16.40 m
Length: 20.00 m
Height: 5.60 m
Max.Weight: 34500 kg
Empty Weight: 16500 kg
Speed: 2450 km/h
Ceiling: 18945 m
Range: 4000 km
Armament: 1*cannon 30 mm
6000kg
12 internal hardpoints
Cost: $70 mil, $65 mil for TGPA members.
could i buy 10 pleeeze
******wire money******

I've also heard they had some stealth proprieties...is it true?

New Gondor Army wishes to buy 1,500 Merkava mk5 tanks and 1,500 Black Eagle tanks.

15.75 billion wired.

I've also heard they had some stealth proprieties...is it true?


Yes.



The other two purchases have been confirmed.

Hattia would like to purchase

10 Merkavas
10 Black Eagles
10 Mig-35s

You don't mind if we produce these ourselves do you?

Total:$805 Million

THanks

Hattia would like to purchase

10 Merkavas
10 Black Eagles
10 Mig-35s

You don't mind if we produce these ourselves do you?

Total:$805 Million

THanks




Theyre RL, which means you can, thiough my black eagle is not totally the RL one.


Confirmed.

The Republic of Plaxtonia requests an order of 450 Merc MkV tanks...

$2,475,000,000 wired...

ill take 20 merkavas and 20 black eagles

I'd like 100 Merkva MkV please.
*wires $500 mil*

THese last 3 purchases have been confirmed.

We'd like to purchase 10,000 of these unitss, for use as Hrstrovokia's main battle tank.

I would like to make a purchase of 1,000 of your tanks please.

We'd like to purchase 10,000 of these unitss, for use as Hrstrovokia's main battle tank.



Can you afford $50 billion?


If so, production of 10,000 Merkava 5's will begin.

I would like to make a purchase of 1,000 of your tanks please.

Purchase confirmed, that comes to $5 bil.



YOull get em in 2 days.

*wired 5 billions

200 tanks please for $1B.

200 tanks please for $1B.

Purchase confirmed.

$50 Billion CDA Credits transfered to The Bisons.

(Thus ending Hrstrovokian Military spending for the rest of it's life time.)

$50 Billion CDA Credits transfered to The Bisons.

(Thus ending Hrstrovokian Military spending for the rest of it's life time.)

Heh.


Production of those 10,000 is on the production queue.

I would like to place an order for 30 Merkava Mk. 5 tanks. The total of $150 Million will be wired upon confirmation.

Manfreddy Hewitt
War Minister
Grand Duchy of Iyari

anyone ... anyone... isn't bisions um a crater now? Sigh...

300 tanks for 1.5 billion plz for the Dominion of Daggoth

*money wired*

OOC: I survived, if anyone wants a description of my defenses, tgram me./



Purchases confirmed.

Good to hear, I like to keep my suppliers the same, saves on headaches. :lol:

The People's Republic of Ferrussia would like to purchase:

500 Merkava Mk V Urban Fighting tanks
500 "Black Eagle" Heavy tanks

for a total of $5.25 billion (to be wired automatically on confirmation), please.

Thanks.

The People's Republic of Ferrussia would like to purchase:

500 Merkava Mk V Urban Fighting tanks
500 "Black Eagle" Heavy tanks

for a total of $5.25 billion (to be wired automatically on confirmation), please.

Thanks.


Black Eagle isnt heavy, its main battle tank.

T-96 Gromilla is heavy..

Purchase confirmed.

1000 please.
5 billion wired.
Thanks!

[Im bisons]

Confirmed.

Algraten requests 50 Merkava tank units for 250m. Payment wired upon confirmation of order

Algraten requests 50 Merkava tank units for 250m. Payment wired upon confirmation of order

Confirmed.

100 Merkava's and I need them yesterday!

100 Merkava's and I need them yesterday!

What?

Confirmed.

Anyway, youll get them as soon as I can transport them to Rumania (from the pacific ocean).

I would like to place another order for 300 Merkava Mk5 tanks . We have found it to be a very dependable and solid design .

The price is 1.5billion , payment wired . I imagine you may need time to produce this substantial number of tanks . Let us know when our order has been completed .

Pleasure doing buisness
CEO Damon Eddington
Chief of the Algraten Colonial council

i am an ally of algraten and wish to outfit my forces with 300 Merkava Mk5 tanks also. this would be greatly appreciated. i await your reply

*1.5 billion wired upon confirmation*

Purchases confirmed.

Hagersville is greatly interested in purchasing 20 A Merkava 5 tanks wire Hagersville for payment and recieval date Thanks

Hagersville is greatly interested in purchasing 20 A Merkava 5 tanks wire Hagersville for payment and recieval date Thanks


Confirmed, youll get them tommorow.

I would like to buy 1000 for however much that is. the money will be wired to you when the shipments arive and are inspected.

pleasure doing buisness with you.

-Vogen

I would like to buy 1000 for however much that is. the money will be wired to you when the shipments arive and are inspected.

pleasure doing buisness with you.

-Vogen

Confirmed, that comes to $5 bil.

I would like to purchase 4 Merkava 5 please the money is wired

My country makes use of a large quantity of Merkava 3 tanks. While we are not interested in purchasing any newly constructed tanks, we would like to buy 8,100 upgrade kits to improve our tanks from the Merkava 3 to the Merkava 5 standard.

Both purchases confirmed.

you should post this on our tank competition site.

you should post this on our tank competition site.
Why? Its obsolete by my standards...

Though I can make an Mk6 with an ET135mm gun, and all the other goodies found on T-80UM5.

The Thelasian governmnet wishes to buy 3 of these tanks for testing purposes.

The Thelasian governmnet wishes to buy 3 of these tanks for testing purposes.
Confirmed.

when can I expect them?

OOC: Hey Bisons great work, you have been a great RPer lately :)

when can I expect them?

OOC: Hey Bisons great work, you have been a great RPer lately :)
Lets see.... as soon as the ship theyre on gets to Thelas.

OOC:
Why thank you!

the country of Tigerous would like to buy 100of these please. we will pay whatever the amount of money is

the contry of Tigerous would like to buy 100of these please. we will pay whatever the amount of money is
$500 mil, confirmed.

when will tigerous recieve them

*500 million it is*

Tommorow RL time.

Both purchases confirmed.

Money Wired. A pleasure doing business with you.

I wil take ten please and can you throw in some depleted uranium rounds?

Confirmed.

What's a T-96 Gromilla?

What's a T-96 Gromilla?
Its now T-96U... my "quality" tank.

Any chance of specifications on this T-96U thingy? There may be a significant purchase order (outfitting, i dunno, ten divisions or so)

Any chance of specifications on this T-96U thingy? There may be a significant purchase order (outfitting, i dunno, ten divisions or so)
The T-96U and T-80UM5 are on sale here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=72329)

I would like 1000 of these tanks

Confirmed.

money will be wired we await the delivery-these will need to be on the battlefield as soon as possible.

money will be wired we await the delivery-these will need to be on the battlefield as soon as possible.
1 hour RL time.