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I've been out of the Arms market for a long time and I decided to come back in with one of my orignal designs for an aircraft. Here is my AC-141 gunship for sale.

!NEWS! Another price cut on B model!
!Price cut all around!

Primary Function:Troop transport&Gunship
Power Plant: Four Pratt & Whitney TF33-P-7 turbofan engines
Thrust: 20,250 pounds, each engine
Wingspan: 160 feet (48.7 meters)
Length: 168 feet, 4 inches (51 meters)
Height: 39 feet, 3 inches (11.9 meters)
Cargo Compartment: Height, 9 feet 1 inch (2.77 meters); length, 93 feet 4 inches (28.45 meters); width, 10 feet 3 inches (3.12 meters)
Cargo Door: width, 10.25 feet (3.12 meters); height, 9.08 feet (2.76 meters)
Troop Capacity: 80 Fully armed paratroops/soldiers
Speed: 500 mph (Mach 0.74) at 25,000 feet
Ceiling: 41,000 feet (12,496 meters) at cruising speed
Range: Unlimited with in-flight refueling
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 323,100 lbs (146,863 kilograms)
Weaponry: 6x 35mm tri-barrelled gattling guns (3 on each side), 2x 49mm 5-barrelled gattling guns in Nose, 2x 68mm tri-barreled gattling guns in underbelly. (All guns in turrets, Although mos tpeople assume it)

Cost- 90 Million

AC-141B
!New add-ons!
3x 75mm Rocket launchers (holds 20)(Mounted on underbelly)
1x Dual 12.7mm tail-mounted machine gun
2x 95mm Cannons (Mounted side by side in center of aircraft)
4x Wing Hardpoints (incase any yahoos think they need more)(2 per wing)

Cost- 110 Million

Notes: Based on C-141 pic links below (C-141)
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/c-141-15.jpg
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/c-141-10.jpg

hmm... howabout 20 million per?

We would like to order 10

Sounds like slightly modified C-17's with turrets. Lol.

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Hey I like the little creature and it does a good job in past operations

And name a price... I'm using hte customers to determine a proper pirce.

Sniper Country you're the proud new owner of 6 AC-141 gunships!

Ill take 10.

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The Bisons due to you being part of TGPA Your 10 will cost a grand total of 120 million per Gunship.

Behind the 1,200 million dollar door are 10 AC-141 gunships!

Okie money sent and thanks for business.

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Ive got way too much money for any gov. Will you take 10 for 1.3 billion?
Gregory Writ
Defense secretary of the republic of No Name

I'm surprised by what you said but fine sold!

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May I make a suggeston *shrugs* observation (Guess the movie, and you get a cookie wired to you)

Kill some of the Gatling guns. Nothing against them, but I dunno, put a howitzer type gun on it, or something of the like. With a C-141, you got space to spare. Spice it up a little, put some heave arty on it (ala AC-130). maybe even some smaller guns (7.62 mini? .50 MG?) Like I said, on a Starlifter, youve got room to spare.

I've been considering putting missile/rocket launchers.

The People's Republic of Sanwan will take 1(damn military budget cuts :( )
would 50 million be an acceptable price?(ooc:135 is WAY to pricy for a chopper)

OOC: It isn't a chopper....

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We thank you for flying AC-141 Airlines, and feel sorry for those between the cannons on the new B-model.

It is the largest plane used by the US Military at the moment. The Marines use it primarily (damn jarheads). It's really a great deal! :o

The C-141 is no longer being purchased. In fact, it is being retired. It has a tendancy to "bulk out," or run out of cargo room, before it goes overweight. It is being replaced with the C-17. Currently the largest aircraft in US inventory is the C-5 galaxy.


http://okcac.freeyellow.com/kpsa.jpg

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ooc: cant believe i said chopper...i was half asleep then...
IC: i'll take 1 i guess
wiring the 115 million now :)

Seems a bit of overkill to me. Might as well put an MLRS in the side.

Sanwan- Done deal

Lunatic- Good idea 8)

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Good thing they're selling

The Commonwealth of Scandavian States would like to purchase twelve aircraft to start it's first support wing. We'll pay 690 mil. now and remaining 690 mil upon reception of order, if you accept the order that is.

You're going to get a total of 6 since I don't trust you're reliability to pay for more. Sorry, the only problem is you're population which limits the amount of money you'd have coming into your nation.

* A grand total of 6 AC-141 (The original I assume not the B model.) take off on a path to scandanavian states*

OOC:Yeah that rping sucks but thid ain't worth much more.

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Liberated Asia, we would like to purchase 12 of the B-model. If you need a rundown of our military budget for confirmation:

Ancient and Holy Terra Gross Domestic Product
Population: 97,001,614
Civil Rights: Few
Economy: Powerhouse
GDP per Capita: $25,237
GDP: $2,448,029,732,518
National Budget: $679,711,551,375

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 7.5%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 27%
Military Budget: $183,522,118,871

Enough for:
5,901 F-15Es, or...
9,176 Su-34s, or...
9,761 F-16s, or...
16,683 MiG 29s, or...
42,679 M1A2 Abrams, or...
61,174 T-90s, or...
313,177,677 M-16s, or...
611,740,396 AK47s

We haven't bought anything that costs more than a couple million for three weeks now. Is that an acceptible number?

Money will be wired upon confirmation. (Damn, this is gonna be expensive...:roll:)

Chill man the population is normally what I base it on. The othe rnation had a population of 6 million limiting the amount of funds he had to tap.

$1,560,000,000 (USD)

And if it's put to combat use contact me, I love hearing about it's success!

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound irritated, one too many dealers have asked what my resources were when I wanted to buy something.

*Money has been wired*

They may soon go to combat, we've been having an issue with rogue nations executing hookers...:lol:

...No, I'm not kidding you. We will eagerly await their arrival.

~Emperor El' Jonson~

Heh, good luck and the craft are on their way out.

I would like 10 of the B model please.

Can i buy construction rights?

1,300 Million for the 10

And for 19 Billion you can have rights, atop of the cost for rights you'll have to pay 20% of any sales you make and pay a fee of 28 million for every AC-141 you make(I don't want to sell them)

Thanx money wired

No thanx bout the construction rights, can afford em :D

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Aircraft have arrived at Tellerus Naval Base, and are currently being checked over by our skilled team of flight mechanics. Fights have broken out among aircrews over who gets to fly the AC-141-B's first.

A small military evaluation has been set up for two days from now. Two aircraft are being used to decimate a column of old Soviet T-34 Derelicts. We will of course send you the results of our test. If the TRIAD Military Brass deem the AC-141-B to be a worthy aircraft, a larger order will be placed. The aircraft are the backbone of the newly formed 1st Infantry Air Support Division.

We would like 10 of the "B" model *funds wired*

AAHT- If you intend to put it to such uses I'll give you a 20 million discount on any furhter purchases. I like good publicity.

Blade- Yeah you can buy 5 *half funds returned*

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2X AC-141B plz

Omz222 Gross Domestic Product
Population: 12,322,553
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: Powerhouse
GDP per Capita: $24,920
GDP: $307,078,020,760
National Budget: $94,253,355,982

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 3.38%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 11%
Military Budget: $10,367,869,158

Enough for:
333 F-15Es, or...
518 Su-34s, or...
551 F-16s, or...
942 MiG 29s, or...
2,411 M1A2 Abrams, or...
3,455 T-90s, or...
17,692,609 M-16s, or...
34,559,563 AK47s

Omz, based on the fact that military spending is on an increase but not yet one of your top issues, you have a military budget of around 10%, or roughly 10.5 billion dollars. Looking at the number of purchases you've made over the past couple of days, I'd say you might be pushing that limit. Anyways, it's your call dude, good luck.

Ancient and Holy Terra: yes I know..... and for that, I simulated my government's finical crisis here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40513&highlight=budget+crisis.

D.C. spokesman

Our military is needing more ships to help other countries so we are willing to buy 15 ships.

:twisted: I want 5 AC-141 gunships

Holy Tera- Please Accept 2 AC-141B's as a gift for your research on the client.
Omz- I'm going out on a limb by letting you buy 1

Davaco- Orignal or B model?

Holy- No

Moeny transfered

Thank you Liberated Asia. It is our pleasure to assist you. Military trials begin today. You will be updated on the aircraft's performance.

Thank you,

~Emperor El' Jonson~

Amount of money taken in from sales (not profit just amount of money paid)

!!!!!!!$5,645,000,000 USD!!!!!!!!!

We congratulate you on your financial success, Liberated Asia. We hope sales continue.

I thank you holy Terra

I'm spendng 1 Billion of it though in the production of a new lines of gunships...

The funds mainly go to installing the weapons. Needless to say the new Gunships will be listed for sale in a short time. (Assembly is fast when you alreayd have ht ebase aircraft.)

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i'll take 5

they money is being wired

okie dokie

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Military assessment passed with flying colors. The two AC-141-B's made their first attack run in precision and with excellent accuracy. 24 old tanks traveling in two columns of 12 each couldn't respond to the fast attack run the aircraft made. 9 tanks were destroyed in the first pass, decimating both columns.

The accurate fire from the 98mm cannons and rockets knocked out the lead tanks in each column, stalling the tanks in their advance. Subsequent passes decimated the other T-60s and T-72s. Computer-monitored fire revealed that the tanks would have only done light damage to either aircraft, mostly due to the fact that their guns couldn't elevate high enough. The small machine guns couldn't penetrate the thick hull of the AC-141-B.

Flight Officer Mikal and Flight Officer Rerval both remarked upon how excellent the C-141 is as a gun platform. They said it was extremely stable during firing, even when the heavier cannons were fired. In addition, they said the recoil compensators aboard worked excellently and aided them during their firing.

Air Marshal Fazalur, Commanding Officer of the 1st Infantry Air Support Division, was heard to say this during the trial.

"Damn! If I was in one of those tanks and heard four screaming turbofans, I'd run!"

The military high brass in attendence were extremely pleased with the performance of the aircraft and are evaluating their need to purchase more. It is likely an order of up to 24 will be placed, however we need to construct new airfields.

Sincerely,

~Emperor El' Jonson~

Please tell me you have a engine upgrade for this one now......:D

Anywho after seeing the outstanding performance of TAF's current batch of 20 AC-141s purchased months ago, we wish to procure more AC-141s and integrate them into the TAF. We wish to purchase 100 AC-141Bs from Liberated Asia. And is it possible to have my current inventory of AC-141s upgraded to AC-141B standards?

Yep they can be upgraded to the B model sure thing, and due to your large order you get a discount and the upgrades will be free.

You're order comes out to be an even 10 billion dollar (I knocked 25 million off each aircraft due to order size). Enjoy, but the delivery will be dispursed over the next week or so....

Yep they can be upgraded to the B model sure thing, and due to your large order you get a discount and the upgrades will be free.

You're order comes out to be an even 10 billion dollar (I knocked 25 million off each aircraft due to order size). Enjoy, but the delivery will be dispursed over the next week or so....And its a deal. Money will be wired shortly. :D I will be sending my AC-130s to the facilities for upgrade in Liberated Asia.

Yeah no problem man it's a good product

Yeah no problem man it's a good productYeah I pretty much noticed after seeing its performance in a few exercises and conflicts. :D

Also the fact that people are in love with the little buggers... they don't like my other gunship though.... the AAn-72

After conferring with high command, we've decided to purchase an additional 24 AC-141-B's. Since we need to improve other airbases around the country to accomodate these aircraft, we'd like the order to be staggered: 6 aircraft per delivery, over the course of a week or two. Please confirm our order, Liberated Asia.

Sincerely,

~Emperor El' Jonson~

(ooc: I think I'll be able to afford purchasing 6 each time, correct?)

OOC- Correct and if not I'd extend a "tab" for you

6 AC-141 B's at a time for a total of 24 in all making 7 deliveries...
Cost of each delivery will be 600 million you get a special discount for being a repeat customer.

Right, Liberated Asia. Thank you.

The initial 600 million has been wired, Liberated Asia. Further payments will come soon. We appreciate the discount immensely.

~Emperor El' Jonson~

We appreciate the continued sales immensely... if there is a pricecut during the contract time the amount of funds affected will be returned to your nation.

Democratic Republic of Wishik would like to purchase one AC-141 vehicle and is prepared to wire 110 million to Liberated Asia.

Sold for 105 million since you've struck some compassion into me some how.

We appreciate the continued sales immensely... if there is a pricecut during the contract time the amount of funds affected will be returned to your nation.

Thank you.

Furthermore, we'd like to announce that the 1st Infantry Air Support Division has officially been formed and relocated to Tellerus Airbase. The ceremony concluded with a speech from Air Marshal Fazalur. The crews have begun intensive training on their aircraft and report that they're extremely happy with the aircraft.

We will spread word of you to our regional members.

I'll also remind you the AC-141 hase a light troop transport ability as well, not highly used but I kept it incase there was someplace paratroops would require support fire all the way down.

Liberated Asia, the funds are wired and we are sending a transport with a pilot. When can we acquire our purchase?

I'll also remind you the AC-141 hase a light troop transport ability as well, not highly used but I kept it incase there was someplace paratroops would require support fire all the way down.

We've noticed the capability, but our Paratrooper Corps have not yet completed training, mostly due to insufficient funding. However, once their training is completed a full company of Paratroopers will be attached to the 1st Infantry Air Support Division.

Holy Tera- Please Accept 2 AC-141B's as a gift for your research on the client.
Omz- I'm going out on a limb by letting you buy 1

Davaco- Orignal or B model?

Holy- No

D.C. military command

We will buy 10 original and 5 B model!

I'll take 2 gunships

DC-1,700,000,000 USD
Mast- Original or B?
Wishlik- When they arrive at New Ho Chi Minh City.

Acknowledged. Please inform us of the expected arrival date.

I meant when your pilots arrived

Give me ten of the AC-141B models. Any discounts?

Sorry I normally don't offer them unless it's a return customer or orders around 20..... 10 AC-141B's it is.... ok deal.

OK, 1.25 billion wired.

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Sales aren't going too hot, eh?

Well, our AC-141-B's might get a bit of a real test soon. There's a newb ruining an RP (which is admittedly a pretty weird RP), but he won't get out. We might declare war on him and give these planes a test.

I got slow and hot times in sales

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I'll buy....one

First model or B?

The Empire of Haverton would like to buy One.

Original or B model?

yes its me. I got locked out for 45 min. I'll take original.

ok

(We got extra funds by gun sales left over. So we'll use it.)
10x AC-141
10x AC-141B

Order for 5 AC-141's and 5 AC-141-B's confirmed

(OOC-5x? Okey then.)

Money wired.

OOC- I simply don't believe you have the money... show me the evidence then you'll get the rest of your order.

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OOC- I simply don't believe you have the money... show me the evidence then you'll get the rest of your order.
(OOC-I deleted the sales transaction telegram... ah well, the rest of the 10 gunships are for spare anywayz, I dont really need them.

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ill take 6 for $1.5 billion!

*Money Wired* :oops:

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Liberated, I'm sending a telegram...be there in a sec.

D.C. Finance

We have now sent the money into your account with some extra with it!2,000,000,000 USD

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Thank you and your order is being shipped with an extra 4 AC-141B's

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Please buy this.... OR I'LL EAT YOUR FACE!

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I'll purchase four for study, $460 000 000 has been wired to your account.

I'm back!

Well they're for sale again... I cut the prices.

Malundar will take 42 with money wired upon confirmation.

Confirmed, but we're curious on if it was the A or B... We assume B, but we've been wrong in the past.

I'll get 20 AC-141B

*sits and ponders the AC-141*

what real good would this aircraft do against modern SAM sites, due to its size it would have very limited manuveribility in low altitude and most of its weapons are limited range, which means it would have to slow down and fly real low to accomplish anything. I could see a Handheld Stinger or more likely a Linebacker or Avenger SAM system ruining this things day quite easily


not to mention low flying Helicopters with AA capability. Or even normal fighters.

What sort of survivability does it have against these?

too me it just seems like a giant lumbering target.

To me I never recall gunships being meant to fight fighter or SAM sights...

Omz I still doubt your ability to buy but I'll accept the order.

To me I never recall gunships being meant to fight fighter or SAM sights...

Omz I still doubt your ability to buy but I'll accept the order.
Money wired

OOC: I have a trillion dollar mil. budget, plus another 1 trillion earned from an auction, and I still have 500 billion left over for a war that is going on. Anyways, thank you.

To me I never recall gunships being meant to fight fighter or SAM sights...

Omz I still doubt your ability to buy but I'll accept the order.

my point is Battlefield Survivabilty

with the size of the aircraft it has to maintain a certain speed to stay in the air. and i'm just pointing out that you really don't need something like it.
the mission it is trying to accomplish can be accomplished just as easily with smaller lighter and cheaper aircraft

AC-141B - 3

How many of these planes do u got left and how long will it take to get them delivered?