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THe Bisonic Defense Initiatives Agency (BDIA) has announced the developement of the Su-37M and Su-37K naval version. They are the latest in the line of Su-27 Upgrades. They combine long range misile capabilities with manueverability in dogfights due to the usage of thrust vectoring. A 2 seat version with better strike capabilities is also available (Su-37E/ Su-37EK navalized variant).
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The Su-37 is a super-maneuverable thrust vectoring fighter derived from the Su-35 prototype. The Su-37 represents a new level of capability compared with the Su-27 and Su-35. The Su-37 test aircraft made its maiden flight in April 1996 from the Zhukovsky flight testing center near Moscow. This impressive single-seat all-weather counter-air fighter and ground attack aircraft, derived from the SU-27, has an updated airframe containing a high proportion of carbon-fibre and Al-Li alloy. The engines, avionics and armaments are also improvements on those originally installed in the SU-27. The AL-37FU engines are configured for thrust vector control, with the axisymmetric steerable thrust vector control nozzle is fixed on a circular turning unit. The steel nozzle in the experimental engines is replaced in production engines by titanium units to reduce the weight of the nozzle. The nozzle only moves in the pitch axis, and the nozzles on the two engines can deflect together or differentially to achieve the desired thrust vector for a particular maneuver.
The Su-37 has a variety of other innovative equipment such as a radar configured for simultaneous surveillance of airspace and the ground and a high-precision laser-inertial/satellite navigation system. The all-weather digital multi-mode phased array radar operates in either air and ground surveillance modes or in both modes simultaneously. Ground surveillance modes include mapping (with Doppler beam sharpening), search-and-track of moving targets, synthetic aperature radar and terrain avoidance. The Su-37 is also equipped with a rearward facing radar in the tail stinger area of the fuselage. The Su-37 features fly-by-wire and relaxed static instability, which along with 3D thrust vectoring give the aircraft tremendous agility. It incorporates state of the art ECM in wing-tip pods, allowing improved survivability in electronic warfare environments. The Su-37 can carry air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons on 14 hardpoints.

Here are the compressed specs:

Specifications
Country of Origin: The Bisons
Role: Multi-role fighter
Wing Span: 15.16 m / 49 ft 9 in
Length: 21.94 m / 72 ft
Height: 6.84 m / 22 ft 5 in
Weight: 40,565 lb empty / 74,956 lb max. take off
Engine: Two Lyulka AL-37FU vectored-thrust afterburning turbofans, 30,855 lb thrust each
Maximum speed: 2,440 km/h / 1,516 mph
Range: 3,500 km / 2,175 miles
Service: Ceiling 59,000 ft
Armament: One GSh-30-1 30mm cannon, plus up to 18,075 lb of ordanance on 14 harpoints. The Su-37 can fire the AA-13 Arrow, which has a range of over 140 miles.
Crew: 1, 2 on the Su-37E/Su-37EK
Costs: $40 mil for the Su-37M, $ 42 mil for the Su-37 K, $45 mil for the Su-37E, $47 mil for the Su-37EK. All TGPA members get a $5 mil discount.

I would like to order 510 SU-37K's.

I would like to order 510 SU-37K's.


Your purchase has been confirmed, that comes to $21.42 billion.


For you or for Klamath?

Delievery can be expected on Saturday.

For me what needs to goes to Klamath.Also how about a trade?Check this thread

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36818

I need to make an order of 4,250 Su-37K's. These craft are to replace my F-20's that appear to be out-dated when compared to these. I realize that is a lot of craft, but I am willing to pay top dollar.

That should come to 178.5 billion dollars. I can make this purchase as I am a member of UTP, I have military sources of income, and I am getting money from other sources as I sell the out-dated F-20's to other nations.

I need to make an order of 4,250 Su-37K's. These craft are to replace my F-20's that appear to be out-dated when compared to these. I realize that is a lot of craft, but I am willing to pay top dollar.

That should come to 178.5 billion dollars. I can make this purchase as I am a member of UTP, I have military sources of income, and I am getting money from other sources as I sell the out-dated F-20's to other nations.



Didnt you also order 5,000 Su-39s? (which im STILL in the process of making!) I mean how do you pull out about $175 bil out of your budget every few days?

Wait, cancel my order. I forgot about that. Sorry.

:Bumped for Bisons:

:lol: about forgetting ordering 5,000 planes

My defense ministry is in need of air superiority. As an emerging nation, we picked up 5 MIG 29, in order to protect our small nation. However, with an increase in over 300 million people, we are now in need of increased defense in our nation. Additionally, being the largest military power in our region, it is necessary that we continue to protect our neighbours from heathen oppressors who may undermine our influence in this region.

We require no less than 7000 fighters, to be delivered over a five year contract.

2000 units in year 1
1000 units in year 2
1000 units in year 3
1000 units in year 4
2000 units in year 5

Please advise as to the ability of your nation to meet these terms, and the effect of contracted terems on the overall purchase price. We would propose that the contract be paid in equal installments over teh life of the contract. As you will notice, this involves prepayments in years 2,3,4 sophwing our goodwill and commitment to the contract.

We are currently in negotiations with other nations in order to obtain the necessary components for our ordinance and will not require these items.

We appreciate your respoonse.

Dark Knight

We would like to Order 20 SU-37 EK Fighters for $940 Million US

:lol: about forgetting ordering 5,000 planes

No, I forgot you were still making them. That means I'm paying maintenance on craft I don't have yet.

:lol:

Boy, how stupid that was. I'll expect the rest of tose 39's soon.

I will take 30 to arm naval assault wings.

Laithia, youll have all by Monday.



All orders have been confirmed, except Goobers, who'll hardly be able to afford 7,000 planes.



If you want something more reasonable (like 700) tell me.

Bumpedy bump.

I will take 75, to start a defense paramiter.

I will take 75, to start a defense paramiter.

I will take 75, to start a defense paramiter.


Your purchase has been confirmed, if you want something cheaper but still OK (and not bad at a defensive role) check out this:

The Bisonic Defense Initiatives Agency (BDIA) has announced that is has created a relatively inexpensive attack jet, called the ADF-5 bis, which is not stealth but comes with optional advanced missile defense systems.
This is the first product made by the BDIA

As of right now, the plans (as in plans how to build them, not planes) are not for sale.

http://www.flygplan.info/images/Northrop_F-5_tiger_II.gif
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Here are the statistics:


Crew: One
Maximum speed: Mach 1.7
Service Ceiling: 45,000 feet
Range: 600 miles without fuel tanks or refueling
Armament: 37 mm cannon for attacking AFV's and helicopters, 4 AMRAAM missiles, 2 wingtip sidewinders. Can carry 4,200 lbs of bombs as a strike jet. The ADF-5 bis can also carry up to 3 AGM-65 Maverick anti tank missiles
Cost: $6 million basic, $8 million with the missile jamming system, which jams most, but not all missiles with an integrated system of Chaff, Flare, and more.


The two seat trainer version costs $7 mil

http://www.limaeco.net/fotos/ab/fotos/F5%20Canadiense%20-%20Tiger%20Meet%20-%20Albacete.jpg

Those second planes your selling sure look alot like T-38's

Sorry. The nanomachineing works are already turning out 3 squadrons of them. But we appreciate your F-5 awareness.

Those second planes your selling sure look alot like T-38's


Theyre F-5 Tiger II's.


Well the specs have nothing to do with those of the F-5 but they look similar.

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Those second planes your selling sure look alot like T-38's


Theyre F-5 Tiger II's.


Well the specs have nothing to do with those of the F-5 but they look similar.

yeah ,well i was actually talkign aboput the trainer because i got to fly in a T-38 adn it looks very,very similar

how much would 100,000 Superflankers cost? Just looking for an estimate.
I thought I didnt exist...

100k Su-37's would cost $4 quadrillion.

Sorry. The nanomachineing works are already turning out 3 squadrons of them. But we appreciate your F-5 awareness.
What? If you copied me I will end all life in your nation.

I would like one Su-37EK to sit on my lawn and impress my opressed citizens at air shows. What kind of paint should I use? http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face5.GIF

I'll probably be back for more once I know what my budget actually is....http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face4.GIF

No I did not copy you. We are just turning out 3 squadrons of our own F-5Xs which are light attack planes modified for carrier use.

I would like one Su-37EK to sit on my lawn and impress my opressed citizens at air shows. What kind of paint should I use? http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face5.GIF

I'll probably be back for more once I know what my budget actually is....http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face4.GIF


Ok then, your purchase has been confirmed.

Ill take 5000 F-5 tigerIIwith the missle def option.

Ill take 5000 F-5 tigerIIwith the missle def option.


Did you mean 500?
RL, I dont make F-5 Tigers, I made up the stats myself, just I use the pic of the F-5.

Well they are kind of similar. i will admit that we stole one. Just one. We did'nt like it so we gave it to Samustan. It is their first airforce plane.

I will take 25 of your ADF-5 two seat trainers.

Please telegram me with price and I'll telegram you with money + delivery information.

Well they are kind of similar. i will admit that we stole one. Just one. We did'nt like it so we gave it to Samustan. It is their first airforce plane.



Pay me the $8 mil.

K. Can we just trade you one of the F-5xs and call it a deal? They come with fighter RAMJETs.

K. Can we just trade you one of the F-5xs and call it a deal? They come with fighter RAMJETs.

Sure Ill put it into the museum.

Ok.

I will take 25 of your ADF-5 two seat trainers.

Please telegram me with price and I'll telegram you with money + delivery information.

Is this good for you?

I will take 25 of your ADF-5 two seat trainers.

Please telegram me with price and I'll telegram you with money + delivery information.

Is this good for you?


Oh sorry I didnt notice your purchase has been confirmed, expect delievery by tommorow.

ok ill take 500 w/ the def.

ok ill take 500 w/ the def.



If you have $4 billion to spare thats more reasonable.

wierd

wierd

bump

Tilsitsin wishes to purchase 42 SU-37M fighters.

Tilsitsin wishes to purchase 42 SU-37M fighters.

Purchase confirmed (so you werent logged on?)

Intellectual Idealism will take 100 Su-37M's, coming to $40,000,000,000.
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Intellectual Idealism will take 100 Su-37M's, coming to $40,000,000,000.
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Purchase confirmed, it's on the production queue.

Thank you for considering my offer, however, I would like to clear up a few points about my economy.

Firstly, based on other GDP postings, a weak economy is considered to have 1500 in income per resident per month.

Please note that my residents are taxed at 100%

This means that I collect 5.616 Trillion dollars in taxes each year.

Please also note that my largest government expenditures are on Military.

My finance department has also informed me that our exchange rates are currently on par.

At the price stated for the aircraft, the purchase price for the 7000 jets is only 294 Billion. A mere 5% of my yearly GDP.

Given the lack of past military spending in favour of research, the government coffers are full and we are ready to spend.

Based on our needs, we have revised our contract offer to purchase 5000 aircraft per year for each of the next 5 years. A total of 25,000 aircraft. A 1 Trillion dollar contracxt.

Based on reviews of recent orders, we are aware that we are your biggest customer. As such we will want some special attention. we will require the first shipment as soon as your production facilities will permit, given that orders are in line ahead of us, we will respect these other customers and will patiently await the completion.

For each subsequent year, we will require delivery of 1000 aircraft on the first day of each of the first five months in the new year.

A penalty of $100,000 per aircraft per day will be charged on all late shipments. We require this compensation in order to cover costs related to our training progrmas which will be in operation at this point in time.

Our offer also includes full payment within 3 working days of delivery in order to allow us time for our inspectors to ensure the safety of all equipment. We will include a 1% bonus for each craft that meets our security and delivery specifications.

If this is adequate, please respond within 2 working days.


We appreciate your assistance

Dark Goober

We will not be left behind in our region.

Our nation would request purchase of a small squadron of your Su-37's.
We do not have the military might of the darkgoobers, but wish to establish sovereignty in our region. We do not have any navy to speak of so will not require the naval variant. However, we are interested in the 2-seat version, as we feel that lightens the load on pilots with such high-performance aircraft like this.

We would be interested in purchasing 40 fully equipped planes.
And would be interested in purchasing all necessary ordnance.
That would be roughly $1.8Billion.

Could you please provide prices and availability on an order of that size, if our darkgoober neighbours have not maxed out your production facilities.

We anxiously await a response.

Also, we are interested in establishing a training program our pilots in these new planes. Do you offer anything like this?

We feel it will maximize our effectives with the new planes and ensure that they integrate well into our fighting force.

Please advise.

I'm back. The last one was a hit at this year's airshow. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face1.GIF

11x Su-37M - $440 Million
7x Su-37K - $294 Million
13x Su-37E - $585 Million
5x Su-37EK - $235 Million

$1.554 Billion to be wired on confirmation. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face1.GIF

THank you for your purchase, the planes will be sent by tommorow.

i would like to buy 36 Su-37EM fighters. 1.692 billion have been wired into a holding account. money will be delivered when we have conformation of delivery.

i would like to buy 36 Su-37EM fighters. 1.692 billion have been wired into a holding account. money will be delivered when we have conformation of delivery.

Purchase confirmed, the Su's will be delievered tommorow.

what's the difference between the models?

what's the difference between the models?

(As ive posted already)

SU-37M= landbased 1 seat fighter
Su-37K= Carrier capable Su-37M
Su-37E= Sort of like the F-15E is to the F-15
Su-37EK= Carrier capable Su-37E

100x Su-37EK plz

ok, thank you. ive got the right one

100x Su-37EK plz
Thank you for your purchase, expect delievery tommorow evening.

Money wired. Thx.

THank you for your purchase, the planes will be sent by tommorow.

Thank you, I am sending the money. Now where were those Su-47s? http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face4.GIF

25 Su-37M please. $1 billion wired.

(OOC: Uh... not only is this thread long dead, but so is the bisons.)

OOC: well, maybe, but I'll just wait and see. gives them a chance to make some money though.

Purchase confirmed.

No, Im not dead, if anyone wants a desciption of my missile defenses (all of which could be up and running by 2006), tgram me.

Hagersville is greatly interested in purchasin 300 Su-37M 100 Su-37E
telegram Hagersville for payment and order confirmation

The People's Republic Of Frontsville require 10 SU-37E (2 seat) aircraft at the cost of $450 million-the payment will be wired on delivery.
Many thanks,
Comrade Yung-Commander of the PRFAF (People's Republic Of Frontsville Air Force)

The People's Republic Of Frontsville require 10 SU-37E (2 seat) aircraft at the cost of $450 million-the payment will be wired on delivery.
Many thanks,
Comrade Yung-Commander of the PRFAF (People's Republic Of Frontsville Air Force)

Confirmed (im bisons).

I would like to order 100 Su-37EK , 4.7billion will be wired to your account

Confirmed.

If u do not beilive we have the money go to http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74941

hey feel like devopling a new version of this, with some nice UE touches as well as some more recent DT ones?

hey feel like devopling a new version of this, with some nice UE touches as well as some more recent DT ones?
I have Su-37MK, which I didnt bother to make a storefornt for yet. Switchblade wing tips, lower RCS, 2 more hardpoints on wingtips, helmet mounted targetting system.

300 su37m please
*money wired*

ooc - his nation was erased :roll:

Then the storefront sticky needs updating :(

300 su37m please
*money wired*
Confirmed
ooc - his nation was erased :roll:
Hello

ah ^_^ thought he meant off the person who started the thread. nm :D

ah ^_^ thought he meant off the person who started the thread. nm :D

SU-37M Fighter x100 - $4 Billion

Money will be wired via electronic account upon confirmation.

Bosko Bedolvi, Secratary of the Treasury
The United Socialist States of the KoRT Sovjet

Confirmed.

A pleasure to do business with you.

Bosko Bedolvi, Secratary of the Treasury
Объединенные Социалистические государства совета KoRT

We will order 432 Su-37M, along with 24 Su-37E.

Total cost is $18.36 billion USD,

We will order 432 Su-37M, along with 24 Su-37E.

Total cost is $18.36 billion USD,
COnfirmed

Money is wired.

i'll have 3 SU-37Ms plz

confirmed

12 Su-37EK's please.
12 Su-37K's

Confirmed.

*money wired*

*money wired*

120 Su-37K
120 Su-37EK

Confirmed.

*money wired*

I'd like 240 more Su-37K
and 240 Su-37EK

as well as 360 Su-37
and 280 Su-37E

Confirmed.