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Air Superiority Fighter Contract-Winner Chosen!

31-05-2003, 18:36
Ur is looking for a nation with experience in fighter development. On behalf of a valued ally, Ur is searching for a nation to provide support, sell, and/or develop a top-of-the-line fighter.

All nations are allowed to propose possible contracts. The best contract(s) will be chosen within the next week (real time).

The ASF project will be a large, int'l joint project.

We know that several nations out there have produced several well-crafted, excellent fighting airplanes, and we wish to do business with you.
The fighters must be versatile and carry a nice compliment of weaponry.

It should be the most sophisticated jet fighter ever produced in the world (RPed in modern times), and still be able to be mass-produced.
31-05-2003, 18:42
The Commonwealth of Azazia would be interested in entering into a development project. We currently use the Si-21 fighter, think an improved Flanker. However, we are beginning to look into replacement designs.

Alexander Remarah
Minister of Defense
Edolia
31-05-2003, 18:48
You can purchase Phoenix-Is.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34327

Scroll down a bit and you'll find them. They're excellent air superiority fighters.
31-05-2003, 19:01
Tilsitsinian engineers from the Liahona Defense Industries conglomerate are currently not involved in an indigenous design, however they have been involved in license-building existing designs and applying innovative modifications and upgrades to these designs. Our engineers are highly interested in becoming involved in a multinational project like this.
Crookfur
01-06-2003, 01:32
We are still looking for Natiosn to buy into our advaned fighter program:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32057&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

if you have any design requirements the Kingdom of Crookfur will hopefully be able make the changes when our versions enter production.
01-06-2003, 01:46
My engineers and designers would like to be involved. The plane should include:

Some stealth
STOL/VTOL
Mach 2 speed minimum
Ability to act as a Fighter/Bomber
Able to operate off Aircraft Carriers
A cost of less then 100,000,000 each
01-06-2003, 01:47
i would sell you the f-22 but unfortunately it doesnt operate of carriers

edit: its 90 million a plane
Crookfur
01-06-2003, 01:51
FiK: then telegrph me or Saam Gok (prefferably him as it his bady i've just been pimping it a bit tonight) or post to the thread and we will see what we can do.
If we can't satisfy you then Insanatea's A-39 series might be what you are looking for.
01-06-2003, 01:57
I can sell you MiG 1.42's

the Bisonic Defense Initiatives Agency (BDIA) has announced the creation of a new high tech stealth fighter called the MiG-35 (OOC: AKA MiG 1.42, but I like mig-35 more). It is equal to better than the F-22, but costs less than half as much.

http://www.strange-mecha.com/aircraft/Ente/mig1-44.jpg


Here are the stats. It is capable of launching such delights as the KS-170 (range: 250 miles) for knocking out pesky AWACS and bombers.

Type: MiG/MAPO 1.42
Function: Multirole Fighter
Crew: 1
Engines: 2 * Two three-dimensional thrust-vectoring Saturn/Lyulka AL-41F turbofans, capable of 44,100 lb of thrust in afterburner
Wing Span: 16.40 m
Length: 20.00 m
Height: 5.60 m
Max.Weight: 34500 kg
Empty Weight: 16500 kg
Speed: 2450 km/h
Ceiling: 18945 m
Range: 4000 km
Armament: 1*cannon 30 mm
6000kg
12 internal hardpoints
Cost: $70 mil, $65 mil for TGPA members.
01-06-2003, 01:59
I'll take 100 of those the bisons, money's been wired.
01-06-2003, 02:08
I'll take 100 of those the bisons, money's been wired.


Money has been recieved, expect delievery by late Sunday.
01-06-2003, 02:24
Hey, Sidetrack some other thread! :)

Offers are still being taken. I am hoping to develop the most advanced fighter warplane that has ever been created.

Potential Partners will share in the production & sale of the new ASF.
01-06-2003, 02:26
Also should have

Ability to track multiple targets
Withstand 12 G's
Have a reduce heat sig
01-06-2003, 02:29
Also should have

Ability to track multiple targets
Withstand 12 G's
Have a reduce heat sig

12 G's!!!! Is that considered godmoding? I thought 6-7 G's would be pretty hard.
01-06-2003, 03:35
Also should have

Ability to track multiple targets
Withstand 12 G's
Have a reduce heat sig

12 G's!!!! Is that considered godmoding? I thought 6-7 G's would be pretty hard.
F-16's are able to do 10
01-06-2003, 10:32
We recommend the Kingdom of Ell 's aerospace industry:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31761
imported_Ell
01-06-2003, 12:44
OOC: The max possible for a manned aircraft is 12G (I think). After that, the pilot dies.

ESA Aerospace, Ell's premier Aerospace company, is developing a new multi-role strike fighter codenamed Millenia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31300&highlight=). It has been developed as an economic alternative to the JSF-35 or the F/A-22. The main strength of the plane is in propulsion.
02-06-2003, 00:10
A few nations that have applied for contract have been taken into consideration.

However, more offers are still being taken and a final contract is being written up.
Ma-tek
02-06-2003, 00:15
Ur is looking for a nation with experience in fighter development. On behalf of a valued ally, Ur is searching for a nation to provide support, sell, and/or develop a top-of-the-line fighter.

All nations are allowed to propose possible contracts. The best contract(s) will be chosen within the next week (real time).

The ASF project will be a large, int'l joint project.

We know that several nations out there have produced several well-crafted, excellent fighting airplanes, and we wish to do business with you.
The fighters must be versatile and carry a nice compliment of weaponry.

It should be the most sophisticated jet fighter ever produced in the world (RPed in modern times), and still be able to be mass-produced.

Rivette MI Corporation would be interested in developing such a (conventional) aircraft, perhaps based on the old C# strike aircraft. What requirements do you have?

~ Rivette MI Corp Spokeswoman
02-06-2003, 00:32
none, so far. I just wish to see what people can offer.
02-06-2003, 00:38
Recent requests from the Azazian Air Force have placed following guidelines on any possible aircraft, a mimimum 900 mile combat radius without refueling, fly-by-wire controls, ability to perform as an interceptor/asf. Also, possible two-seater versions for fighter-bombers would be later developments.
Ma-tek
02-06-2003, 01:31
none, so far. I just wish to see what people can offer.

Very well.

Simply put: nobody can match our expertise in avionics. Our civilian MI craft, the Fancy, flies three hundred million EOTED citizens around the Empire every month; and we are the contract-holder for the development of EOTEDs next-gen fighter craft: the X#. Our aircraft have a greater stress tolerance than you could expect from any other leading avionics company; and, although we cannot build an MI aircraft on an external contract, the lessons learned from building such aircraft have been valuable ones.

Thus, we can offer unsurpassed quality, endurance, and more importantly, performance.

~ Rivette MI Corp Spokeswoman
03-06-2003, 02:12
Considered Nations (all):
-Azazia*
-Edolia
-Tilsitsin
-Crookfur
-Fik
-Ell
-Ma-tek*
-N0rth Korea

*special consideration (well, they are my allies, so...)
---------------

The requirements are being drawn up and a full contract will be available soon. I will contact my customer and let them know.
03-06-2003, 03:24
The Korean Aeronautics Ministry, though aware that the final decisions are being made, states that even if not given the contract, it will still unveil some of its recently finished plane designs and offer open discussions with Ur of any aircraft purchases from North Korea.

The KA Ministry unveils the finished product of its new fighter plan:

The KA-686 Storm Sorter (english translation only). The KA-686 S.S. is the new addition to the nation's air force as an answer to the need of a more versatile aircraft capable of extensive fire support for ground forces. Though naval guns as well as the devastating effects from the use of heavy bombers have proven quiet effective, the KA-686 has proven itself worthy because of its capability to target ground units more specifically than all-out shelling or bombardment. The KA-686 uses a twin-engine system located and attached to the rear body and resembels much of the A-10 Thunderbolt II's used primarily by the US Air Force. The KA-686 is armed to the full with A.T rockets/missiles as well as a few A-A missiles to deal against approaching enemy fighters; the main armament being its 30mm Gause seven-barrel gatling. Its advanced targeting system exposes most ground vehicles in its sight, even in night combat. Though armed with A-A weaponry, it is best recommended that KA-686's be accompanied by other combat fighters when entering flight combat areas.

KA-686 Storm Sorter Characteristics

Manufacturer: Korean Aeronautics Ministry/Industry
Crew: One
Production Cost: 12.5 million in USD
Purchase Cost: Pending
Power Plant: Mh-115 Turbos with afterburners
Length: 55.2 feet
Width (Wingspan): 62.01 feet
Height: 15.45 feet
Speed: Mach 1.056 (Safety); Mach 2.5 (Maximum)
Ceiling: 48,000 feet
Range: 3-4000 nautical miles (will reedit if it seems unreasonable)
Armament:
One 30mm Gause Gatling
Eight, four for each wing, Sparrow Missiles
Four, two each wing, LancerPike Rockets
Five, belly-based, A-T Spearheads
Four, belly-based, A-A Spearheads
Max. load of Dante bombs
Four, two each wing, Scourge Missiles
Compartment load of 'retarded', high-impact bombs
Inventory:
Two, weld-integrated emergency fuel tanks with additional armor plating
Compartment load of c.m. flares
Compartment load of i.e.d flares
SAM Jamming System
NOP Nigh Vision Enabling system

OOC Note: Sorry, no image available
imported_Ell
03-06-2003, 05:40
Seems a bit cheap to me.
03-06-2003, 05:44
OOC: Don't you know, all Korean concepts are cheap :? j/k
07-06-2003, 22:50
Simply put: nobody can match our expertise in avionics. Our civilian MI craft, the Fancy, flies three hundred million EOTED citizens around the Empire every month; and we are the contract-holder for the development of EOTEDs next-gen fighter craft: the X#. Our aircraft have a greater stress tolerance than you could expect from any other leading avionics company; and, although we cannot build an MI aircraft on an external contract, the lessons learned from building such aircraft have been valuable ones.

Thus, we can offer unsurpassed quality, endurance, and more importantly, performance.


Congratulations, Ma-tek. My customer has selected your proposal to be the best. I will ask for you to draw up specifics on what your next-gen fighter can do and a plan to actually design, build, and use it.

Thanks to all those that applied. Maybe next time.
Ma-tek
08-06-2003, 01:09
Simply put: nobody can match our expertise in avionics. Our civilian MI craft, the Fancy, flies three hundred million EOTED citizens around the Empire every month; and we are the contract-holder for the development of EOTEDs next-gen fighter craft: the X#. Our aircraft have a greater stress tolerance than you could expect from any other leading avionics company; and, although we cannot build an MI aircraft on an external contract, the lessons learned from building such aircraft have been valuable ones.

Thus, we can offer unsurpassed quality, endurance, and more importantly, performance.


Congratulations, Ma-tek. My customer has selected your proposal to be the best. I will ask for you to draw up specifics on what your next-gen fighter can do and a plan to actually design, build, and use it.

Thanks to all those that applied. Maybe next time.

Firstly, our commiserations to those who contested this contract without success. May you have better luck in the future.

Secondly... We will deliver the proposed specs within the next few days.

~ Rivette MI Corp Spokesman

[OOC: Realtime. I need to do a little research. Probably tomorrow, and if not then, the next day. I'll post an update on when tomorrow, in this here post via an edit.]
Ma-tek
08-06-2003, 17:22
Rivette MI Corp unveils the proposed body-shape of the (codename only) 'Thunder' jet:

http://www.janes.com/aerospace/military/news/idr/idr021127_1_s.jpg

At this time, we will not confirm whether or not this is the final design we will settle with; however, this scale-model is an excellent representation of our aims.

Proposed specifications to follow.

~ Rivette MI Corp
Foxweather
10-06-2003, 06:35
We like that design. We shall purchase a few of them as prototypes, and reproduce them. (We are the ones who contacted Ur an Ass about a contract for a fighter plane. We are most pleased with this design.)
Ma-tek
11-06-2003, 23:06
The aims to be met in the R/D of this aircraft are as follows:

* To build an aircraft capable of outflying the current generation of conventional aircraft

* To build an aircraft capable of delivering missiles to multiple OTH targets

* To build an aircraft with a flight ceiling with thrust capabilities of at least 41,000lbs

* To build an x-axis superior maneuverable aircraft

* To build an aircraft with the lowest radar profile in aviation history

* To build the worlds first (wing project name only) 'dynamic-split-wing' system

* Fuel efficiency

To the ends of providing superior software, we have sub-contracted Imperial AI Systems to design/build the following:

* A superior HUD system to common designs, offering above 40degree visual range

* Multiple-target tracking capabilities

* Supreme adaptability

* A full fly-by-wire system capable of controlling an inherantly unstable aircraft for increased maneuverability

* A 'pilot-supplementation system'

We are currently searching for a small aerospace corporation with a background in production techniques for high-thrust high-perfomance aircraft, as we intend to sub-contract the engine cone and engine cone control systems.

We note that the previous image posted is subject to change according to design requirements.

~ Rivette MI Corp non-public release
Ma-tek
19-07-2003, 17:14
Rivette announces that after a long period of silence, 'Project Thunder' is nearing completion, and is in the third-generation testing phase.

~ Rivette MI Corporation Spokesman
19-07-2003, 17:23
Derieties would like to purchase some of these jets after their completion from either A.) Foxweather or, B.) Ma-Tek. Would this be possible?
Ma-tek
19-07-2003, 18:19
Derieties would like to purchase some of these jets after their completion from either A.) Foxweather or, B.) Ma-Tek. Would this be possible?

We rightly defer judgement in this matter to the contractor.

~ Rivette MI Corporation Spokesman
Ma-tek
19-09-2003, 20:11
Rivette MI Corporation announces the impending arrival of the first five units of the aircraft codenamed 'Project Thunder' to the contracting nation for final inspection pending large-scale manufacturing.

All specifications are currently classified.

~ Rivette MI Corporation, Public Relations Department
19-09-2003, 20:38
Here:

MA-10:

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ucav-lm2.jpg

The MA-10 is the result of many years research, although it was one of our first fighters. We feel it can supply air superiority using great maneuverability and its wacking great 27mm 3 barreled Chain Gun :D .

Here are the stats for you:

Function: CTOL Air Superiority Fighter

Contractor: Muir Avionics


Propulsion: 2 F-1001 HyperEngines

Length: 56 feet 9 inches

Height: 11 feet

Maximum Takeoff Weight: 92,900 pounds

Wingspan: 49 feet 3 Inches

Ceiling: Above 53,000 feet

Speed Max Mach Number = 3.79

Cruise Mach Number = 2.05

Crew: One Pilot

Armament Up to 13,000 pounds of

Air-to-Air Missiles (up to)

6 AA-2 Missiles
6 ASRAAM's
4 AMRAAM's
3 AA-3 Missiles


air-to-ground ordnance

MK-82 (500 lbs.)
3 MK-83 (1,000 lbs.)
3 MK-84 (2,000 lbs.)
6 MK-20 cluster bomb
3 GBU-10 LGB
3 GBU-16 MK-83 LGB
3 GBU-24 MK-84 LGB


one GAU-15 3 Barreled 27mm Chain Gun


Countermeasures: FC/MAFC-45 radar warning receiver
FC/MAFC-67 radar warning receiver
FC/MAFC-167 ECM Pod
FC/MAFC-52 towed decoy
FC/MAFC-1 Radar Flare Pod

2 F-1001 Hyperengines utilise huge fan speed to produce huge thrust. 2 are used in a compact space, and produce thrust. The aircraft is strong enough to withstand Mach 5 in a dive. With minimum wing cavities this is possible. The engines use Ti/C and a plastic composite with Diamond and Carbon Fibre pigments. These will NOT melt, no matter what thrust goes thrpugh them.

Arnament includes 6 Missile hardpoints in a bomb bay, tightly packed at the edge of the bay.

This only allows 4 Medium Sized missiles to be packed in or 3 Large Missiles.

The latest electronic countermeasures are fitted, allowing for great self defence.

This is my fighter.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-9/387586/MuirAviation.JPG