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Su-47 Berkuts for sale

31-05-2003, 02:51
The Republic of FiK is proud to introduce the Su-47 Berkut Fighter

Comparible to the F/A 22 and better than the F-15

http://www.suchoj.com/ab1953/Su-47/riss/Su-47_03.jpg

Wingspan: 15.16 m - 16.7 m

Length overall: 22.2 m - 22.6 m

Height overall 6.36 m - 6.40 m
Weight empty, equipped : 24,000 kg (52,910 lb) -- 26000 kg (57,320 lb)

Max T-O weight : 34,000 kg (74,960 lb)

Engines: 2 Perm Aviadvigatel D-30F6 (34,170 lbst), or
2 Saturn/Lyul'ka AL-37FU afterburning 142.2 kN (31,966 lb st) with afterburning thrust-vectoring in pitch -20o to 20o at 30o per second

Max level speed at height : 2,500km/h (1,350 knots)

Max level speed at S/L : 1,400km/h (756 knots)

Service ceiling : 18,000 m (59,050 ft)

Range with max fuel at height : 1,782 nm (3,300 km/2,050 miles)

Number of hardpoints: 14: 2 wingtip, 6-8 underwing, 6-4 conformal underfuselage

Air-to-air : R-77, R-77PD, R-73, K-74

Air-to-surface: X-29T, X-29L, X-59M, X-31P, X-31A, KAB-500, KAB-1500

Crew: 1

Price: 33,000,000 each.
31-05-2003, 02:53
You don't have any asshole, but I do, so take a hint and PISS OFF.

I'm not even going to bother going over your spelling...
31-05-2003, 02:54
Nuke the crack pipe man!
31-05-2003, 02:55
Interesting... Ill take 10 for my museum.


(mY museum has both modern and old tech.)
31-05-2003, 02:58
I would like 150 of your new Su-47's. I love the Su-37's but this seems much better. I will wire the money when the order is confirmed.
31-05-2003, 02:58
Finally, a real order...

Confirmed & Shipped.
31-05-2003, 03:00
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31-05-2003, 03:00
I take 60 of them and just my thoughts on it, this might be a little better dogfighter but not over all better than the F-22 becuase of its wing design. Those wings create a wierd air vortex and can eb detected alot easier than the F-22's designbut those wings also give it a ton better manuverability. Nice pics
31-05-2003, 03:02
FiK - I hate to intrude but you're a relatively new nation yet are showing off technology that even many 2-3 month old nations don't have.

sepherous if you font like the way he's acting well then dont post, just becuase he posts doesnt mean you have to even look at it
31-05-2003, 03:03
I said it was comparable, not necessarily better and it is definately cheaper. And I think it's ok if I sell this, the Russians in RL have twice my population or so but their economy sucks and mine is good so I think it is ok, plus I have made money from my other arms sales which I invested in this project. Sent out your order Ardor.
31-05-2003, 03:03
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31-05-2003, 03:04
FiK - I hate to intrude but you're a relatively new nation yet are showing off technology that even many 2-3 month old nations don't have.

sepherous if you font like the way he's acting well then dont post, just becuase he posts doesnt mean you have to even look at it

yeah well if I ever end up at war with him because of his GDODAD loving, I'm not going to be able to accept that he has modern days most advanced everything.
Most advanced? Hardly. The Volga is selling F-22's and he is the same age as me. So go complain to him too. It's not like I'm selling Hypersonic space fighters and Lunar aircraft carriers...
31-05-2003, 03:07
FiK - I hate to intrude but you're a relatively new nation yet are showing off technology that even many 2-3 month old nations don't have.

sepherous if you font like the way he's acting well then dont post, just becuase he posts doesnt mean you have to even look at it

yeah well if I ever end up at war with him because of his GDODAD loving, I'm not going to be able to accept that he has modern days most advanced everything.
Most advanced? Hardly. The Volga is selling F-22's and he is the same age as me. So go complain to him too. It's not like I'm selling Hypersonic space fighters and Lunar aircraft carriers...

well in reallife places like gorgia or alot of the other OLD russian plases like turkmenistan can produce things like this and they are small, and even more, places like germany or spain have populations at or below his and they have stuff like this
31-05-2003, 03:10
Ohh yes and the monet is sent
31-05-2003, 03:15
yeah and that is really just the Su-37 with a revision and a new name
31-05-2003, 03:35
bump
Eeptopia
31-05-2003, 03:51
If you want Su-47's without the controversy of a new(er) nation selling them, then come to me. I can give them to you for a price of $35,000,000 per plane.

:D
31-05-2003, 03:53
Go make your own damn thread then, you have any idea how annoying it is when people go into your own threads and try to take your buisness.
31-05-2003, 03:54
yes it is annoying, and just for that fact i will buy another 190 from you
31-05-2003, 03:55
Just for buying those i will reduce the price to 30,000,000 on that order! Thank you for your business! Order shipped.
31-05-2003, 03:56
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31-05-2003, 03:56
The money is loaded onto a boat and the motor is started and pointed your direction
Eeptopia
31-05-2003, 03:56
Go make your own damn thread then, you have any idea how annoying it is when people go into your own threads and try to take your buisness.


*shrugs*

It just seems a little weird for a nation barely a month old to be selling top of the line Russian jets.
Beth Gellert
31-05-2003, 03:57
Out of curiosity...does Eeptopia have an arms sales thread?

Heh, sorry, but we rather admire the nation and.. okay, I'll wait over there. Leave me alone, I'm drunk.

..uh, said Prince Llewellyn.
Eeptopia
31-05-2003, 03:57
If you want Su-47's without the controversy of a new(er) nation selling them, then come to me. I can give them to you for a price of $35,000,000 per plane.

:D

much better.


Why, thank you. Can I interest you in any?
31-05-2003, 03:58
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31-05-2003, 03:59
Well then look at this and complain to him too:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=501504&highlight=#501504

And Rogue People's is selling Aircraft Carriers for 15,000,000 for christ sake, go bitch at them too!
Beth Gellert
31-05-2003, 04:00
Shit..Prince L. didn't say a thing..I'm not in that account..ookay, We still admire Eep. and can perhaps actually afford such arms, unlike the nation (Beddgelert) I thought I was logged in as. We have no prince here. Go communism and all that.

..someone has much superior craft? Please elaborate?


(excuse me, this is my 8th pint (sips))
Eeptopia
31-05-2003, 04:02
Well then look at this and complain to him too:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=501504&highlight=#501504

And Rogue People's is selling Aircraft Carriers for 15,000,000 for christ sake, go bitch at them too!


Meh, I don't go around just correcting people, just offering some information for you. I didn't sell anything until I was here for about 1/2-2 months. If anyone wants a plane from me, send a telegram.


Continue with your buisness, FiK.
31-05-2003, 06:34
i will take 30, your money will be wired upon confirmation of delivery
31-05-2003, 14:49
Seph, it is possible for him to have advanced stuff, Sweden coughed up the Gripen and would be a 4 or 5 day old country here (when I was 5 days old I coughed up an upgrade of the F-5).



In any case, I'll stick to my MiG 1.42's since they have awesome radar.
Dyelli Beybi
31-05-2003, 15:00
(OOC) Interesting are these things completed yet? I thought the Russians were still working on 'em
31-05-2003, 15:04
(OOC) Interesting are these things completed yet? I thought the Russians were still working on 'em
Yes since they get daily funding cuts.
Dyelli Beybi
31-05-2003, 15:07
lol, and having just said that I find the exact website FiK was using...
31-05-2003, 15:10
I take 57 of these Su-47 Berkuts.Sents 1.881 billion dollars to FiK.
31-05-2003, 15:35
im pretty sure that the Su-27s cost a lot more than 33,000,000 each. Its part of the reason why Russia doesnt use the Su-37 or -47, because they cant afford it, yet your dishing out planes left and right. Oh well, Russia is also economically fucked, so that could help.

This is off topic, but i saw this one joe that had a bunch of things you never say in specific countries. Heres the one for Russia:
"Hey, is it always this cold and economically devastating here?"
Theres a buncha funny ones, heres canada:
"Yall are like little America. Can you spell B-u-s-c-h?"
India:
"Man, this chicken is good! You sure you dont want some? You do? TOO BAD!"
31-05-2003, 18:14
I sent out the orders and I lowered the price because someone else came in here and tried to sell theirs cheaper than mine.
Dyelli Beybi
01-06-2003, 13:27
I shall buy 12...
01-06-2003, 15:40
*wires money
06-06-2003, 13:28
orders sent
Imminent Deletion
22-06-2003, 01:17
I would like 88 for homeland security. $2.904 Billion will be wired on confirmation. http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face1.GIF
22-06-2003, 01:21
confirmed & shipped
22-06-2003, 01:31
We would like 300 of the Berkuts.
Note: This is a joint-order between Inauna, Nova Insula, and Nueva Alhambra.
We wanted to know if joint-orders were all right with you?
22-06-2003, 01:32
Fine with me, confirmed & shipped
22-06-2003, 01:36
Many thanks. The money is being wired to your nation.

http://www.thegamesjournal.com/photos/MonopolyMoney.jpg
Rokolev
22-06-2003, 02:12
That's S-37 Berkut...and it it's just a test fighter..it probabily won't go to production.. pitty :(
22-06-2003, 02:15
That's S-37 Berkut...and it it's just a test fighter..it probabily won't go to production.. pitty :(
It's designation is officially Su-47, also I used Su-47 because it prevents people confusing it with the Su-37
Rokolev
22-06-2003, 02:17
Didn't know :P
22-06-2003, 02:19
I like, I'll take 400. funds wired
Rokolev
22-06-2003, 02:20
Oh! I want 128 of those new MiG's, the MiG 1.44 (or whatever it's name is...) I need them to protect my homeland :P
22-06-2003, 02:21
I like, I'll take 400. funds wired
Sent, ask the bisons about the MiG 1.44(mig 35)
Rokolev
22-06-2003, 02:25
Well....if any one has them, please contact me :) i'll buy'em
Imminent Deletion
22-06-2003, 03:05
confirmed & shipped

Thank you, money wired. Seven of them are bound for an odd paint job as part of our new national aerobatics team....http://www.sc3000.com/forums/images/face5.GIF
Soviet Haaregrad
22-06-2003, 03:44
New Haaregradia would like 60 of them and a production licence, if possible. I'll play through this account though, as usual.
Rokolev
24-06-2003, 01:35
I'm buying 7 of those Berkut's (if there are still any for sale...)...black painting pelase (like the F-117)..
26-06-2003, 01:54
confirmed your orders and shipped them
26-06-2003, 08:07
I'll take 125 of those painted with my nations flag on them and I'll Pay 4 Billion (Requesting A Discount) And Can I Get Production Rights?
26-06-2003, 08:11
your just said you wanted to declare war on me...so I'm not selling you my aircraft which could be used against me!
26-06-2003, 08:12
I Promise Not To Use Them On You And I Am Not Declaring Its Just Not Right To Steal! (Father Knows Best State!)
26-06-2003, 08:12
ok I'll sell them to you on one condition: you don't capitalize every word.
26-06-2003, 08:14
ok I'll sell them to you on one condition: you don't capitalize every word.

Ok deal! Can I have the production rights?
26-06-2003, 08:15
nope
26-06-2003, 08:16
nope

Did You Send Them!
26-06-2003, 08:17
yup, but no production rights
26-06-2003, 08:19
yup, but no production rights

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
26-06-2003, 08:22
nope
26-06-2003, 18:56
bump
26-06-2003, 19:18
I would like 500 hundred more. *wires money*
26-06-2003, 19:20
Ok sent
Omz222
26-06-2003, 19:21
200 please
26-06-2003, 19:29
Ok sent
Omz222
26-06-2003, 19:38
Money wired. Thx!
The South Islands
26-06-2003, 19:44
I would like 250. Money will be wired on conformation of delivery.
Kraytia
26-06-2003, 19:55
We'll take 400. Money will be wired when order is confirmed.
Kraytia
28-06-2003, 14:34
I don't want that I have again ordered something in vain.
Hrstrovokia
28-06-2003, 14:49
10 Please. 330 Million CDA Credits Transfered.
Haverton
28-06-2003, 18:52
50 plz. 1,650,000,000 wired.
28-06-2003, 18:56
Are they suitable for use on an aircraft carrier?
28-06-2003, 21:25
_.:{[BuMpItY bUmP]}:._
Soviet Haaregrad
28-06-2003, 21:37
Are they suitable for use on an aircraft carrier?

As they are basically an FSW version of the Su 37 I would guess it could be developed, but cost more.
28-06-2003, 21:40
Alright sent your orders
28-06-2003, 21:42
ok how much for the carrier modified planes FiK?
28-06-2003, 22:07
I'll take 5 for use in my upcoming war. Money will be sent upon confirmation.
28-06-2003, 22:46
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Bayorta
28-06-2003, 22:54
Bayorta is most interested in your aircraft. We would like to purchase 150 of them from you. Money will be wired upon confirmation.

Thank you

OOC: I have not spent on my army in quite a while so please dont think I am Godmodding
Kraytia
29-06-2003, 09:31
13,200,000,000$ wired.
29-06-2003, 18:06
Bump-a-la-la-bump
Omz222
04-07-2003, 06:26
250 plz
(soviet products are attracting! :P)
04-07-2003, 06:27
confirmed
Omz222
04-07-2003, 06:28
Money wired. Thx!
Kekkosmaa
05-07-2003, 00:49
We'll take 300. I will wire the money after the confirmation of my request
imported_Hobb
05-07-2003, 00:59
I said it was comparable, not necessarily better and it is definately cheaper. And I think it's ok if I sell this, the Russians in RL have twice my population or so but their economy sucks and mine is good so I think it is ok, plus I have made money from my other arms sales which I invested in this project. Sent out your order Ardor.

Define 'better', please! Does this piece of Russki junk (obviously Soviet era, and never actually built, though it DOES look cool!) have supercruise capability? Is it capable of engaging targets without turning on it's own radar? It certainly doesn't have the Top Speed of an F-15, if your 'data' is to be believed...
That planform is inconsistent with 'Stealth technology', and I don't like being stuck with nothing but Soviet-style ordnance...
How about Maintenance?
The F-15 was a real "Hangar Queen", so they made sure to design the F-22 for easy access to all the internal parts...

Your plane is cheap, I will admit, even less expensive than a new F-16...
but an F-22, at three times the price, is likely to have more than three times the survivablity, and more than three times the sortie rate!

I don't see where you get the idea that this 'fictionware' is better than the F-22!
imported_Hobb
05-07-2003, 01:03
By the way, is there ANYTHING in this game that, for instance, keeps a week-old country from producing the most sophisticated armaments in the world?
Is there, in fact, anything that keeps you from spending you entire annual tax base every day?

All this 'marketing' is all very well and good, I'm just trying to figure out if I can get in on the 'action'....
{Hobb has some very high-quality suits of Powered Armor it would like to make available for sale...} :lol:
Omz222
05-07-2003, 05:03
I'd like 150 for museums
(Sorta OOC-If it is OK, I would like to buy these in this thread, saves more forum space:
120x yak 141
150x MiG-33
80x Il-84)
05-07-2003, 05:10
orders confirmed

Hobb shut the fuck up, you can buy 6 1/2 of these for 1 f-22. And ever hear of IR homing missiles? They make stealth obsolete, especially the F-22. and this isn't a fiction aircraft either. Who cares about top speed? You only really need that if you are retreating. This thing is also more manuevreable. And it's not soviet era, it made it's debut after fall of USSR. Think it is fiction?
http://www.maxwolf.ru/avia/maks99/s-37.jpg

NOW STFU YOU DAMN N00B.
Omz222
05-07-2003, 05:12
Money wired. Thx!

Hobb-Buy, compliment, constructive criticism, or leave. Russian aircrafts look cool. If you don't like it, go away then. No need to rant. STFU.
05-07-2003, 05:14
Just to make hobbs look like an ass:
http://www.ofas-org.de/img/su37_2.jpg
http://aviashow.avia.ru/images/3_su.jpg
http://www.airforce.ru/show/maks99/pictures/s37/s37_5.jpg
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/s37/images/img4.jpg
05-07-2003, 05:17
And Hobb, the F-15 has had a mission capable rate of 89% since its induction in 1972, and also has 185 square feet of access panels to work on it. I am building a one-twentieth scale model of it and I would consider myself an expert on the F-15.
Fyreheart
05-07-2003, 05:22
Fyreheart will buy 500 if we can reproduce them.
05-07-2003, 05:23
Ok, whatever the cost of your order was is what it will cost to produce them
Fyreheart
05-07-2003, 05:42
Okay, agreed.

16.5B for planes,
16.5B for production rights

33B total. Funds wired.

btw, do I get an rgga discount? I'll hook you up from my store if you'd like...
05-07-2003, 05:44
I'll give you a 3b discount.
Fyreheart
05-07-2003, 05:46
sweet. 30B wired.

Hey, are you online now? IM me on aim if you are.

PhoenixFyreheart
05-07-2003, 05:47
don't use aim, only msn
Fyreheart
05-07-2003, 05:50
don't use aim, only msn

Can you TG me with the name?
05-07-2003, 05:52
check t-grams
10-07-2003, 22:53
50 of them please. $1.65 billion wired.
10-07-2003, 22:54
ok shipped
10-07-2003, 22:55
We the Grand Poobah of Thunk Thud Puppet want one of these craft! We demand it! Can we have a small order discount? Can we also buy a trained pilot?
Zapado
10-07-2003, 22:59
I'll take 100 of those. 3.3 Billion wired.
10-07-2003, 23:00
I'll take 100 of those. 3.3 Billion wired.
confirmed
Zapado
10-07-2003, 23:02
How much are production rights?I'll love to begin building these for my Red Airforce.
10-07-2003, 23:06
i'll take 200 of them just in case. 6.6 billion wired
10-07-2003, 23:10
i'll take 200 of them just in case. 6.6 billion wired
shipped
10-07-2003, 23:14
FiK do you hate us? We the Grand Poobah have demanded one of these planes from you and asked if we couldf have a small order discount and possibly buy a trained pilot as well! :evil:
11-07-2003, 03:30
The Dominion of Daggoth would like 100 of these fighters.

*3 billion wired*
11-07-2003, 03:31
confirmed
11-07-2003, 03:38
they arent comparable to an F-22...they are far better

I would buy them but I already have 1500 I purchased from Ell...awesome planes I SUGGEST PEOPLE BUY THEM
11-07-2003, 05:14
I'll take 5 sqauds of 12 ((60))
1 billion 980 million wired upon confirmation
11-07-2003, 05:18
order confirmed
11-07-2003, 07:04
I Would like 500.
(incase anybody is wondering, im using pedaphiliacs budget along with mine, plus i sold a bunch of oil and airplanes and tanks. oh yea, and my puppet just sold a SHITLOAD of uranium :)
Funds Wired
11-07-2003, 07:07
ok shipped
29-07-2003, 14:58
ill take one
can u deliver it?
*15,000,000 USD wired*

the otehr half will be wired on confirmation
29-07-2003, 15:00
He's deleted.
06-08-2003, 18:05
ill take one
can u deliver it?
*15,000,000 USD wired*

the otehr half will be wired on confirmation
I'm not selling you just one...
27-09-2003, 12:14
money is transfered but if u still doubt us go to http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74941
27-09-2003, 16:21
Can these things be used on carriers?
06-10-2003, 11:48
:twisted: i'll take 25 of these planes plz :twisted:
06-10-2003, 14:09
nice pic, although thats just the prototype cuz of the shorter nose

i wont buy any cuz i've already got 210 of em for my AF
06-10-2003, 14:14
I'll take 40, cuz I need some cool looking fighters for my ninja militia!
07-10-2003, 21:06
I'll take 200 We can afford it due to http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=77611
*moeny transffered*