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Djinn UCAV fighter unveiled

26-05-2003, 16:46
Djinn UCAV Fighter - 18 million per unit

Austrin-Ontis Military Technologies (AOMT), in association with a conglomerate of allied nations industries, is proud to present our latest weapon system available for purchase, the Djinn strike fighter.

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The Djinn fighter represents the first step in the direction of futuristic fighter design. As any aerospace engineer could tell you, the limiting factor on modern fighter aircraft is not the technology, it's the pilot. Our solution? Remove the pilot. The result is the Djinn, an Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle (UCAV) designed to fulfil a range of combat roles whilst keeping the costs right down.

Not including a pilot allows the Djinn to do a number of things that manned planes cannot. Primarily, it allows it to be smaller, since there is no need for a cockpit. It can also be flatter, which cuts down on its signature. However, it is also able to execute turns that would cause severe damage to a human pilot, up to about 12Gs. This allows to to better evade missile attack and outmaneuver enemy fighters.

The Djinn is controlled in one of two ways. It may be controlled remotely via a remote suite by a trained pilot. This has the advantage of keeping the pilot out of danger, and the signal reinforcement that our allied nations have place in the transmission makes jamming extremely difficult. The second way is the thing we are most proud of however, the Djinn contains a robotic control mechansim second to none which allow the fighter to select, engage and destroy targets with a high degree of success. This software was developed using the latest Cleanroom Software Engineering methods to prevent error and can continually be updated with new target and situational information to optimise its performance. It can't improvise like a human pilot can, but it makes up for it in other ways, increased reaction speed and robustness under fire.

Among the fighters greatest strength is in the execution of Suppression of Enemy Air Defences (SEAD) missions. Notoriously the most dangerous of missions, SEAD involves the fighter aggravating ground based defences into firing, and then launching HARM at them whe they do, since HARM locks onto radar signatures. The defence is then likely destroyed, even if it does turn off its radar, and the Djinn must dodge the missile. It has a better chance of doing so then a manned plane, and even if it is destroyed, you haven't lost a pilot that took millions of dollars to train along with it.

The payload of the Djinn is quite small, because of its size, but you can use significantly more because of its comparitive cheapness to its competition. Also, its payload is well sufficient to carry out most mission specific operations. it is best used in medium to large numbers with a back-up of a small number of multi-purpose fighters to fill the holes.

The Djinn has recently been in action on the war against Ammerrica, where it performed better than all expectations in both SEAD and Strike missions.

Stats

Project Final Name: Djinn
Project Working Name: RAMPART BLUE
Type: Multirole Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle

Prime Contractor: AOMT
Weight, Dry: 8,000 lb
Weight, Internal Fuel only: 11,500 lb
Weight, Maximum Takeoff: 16,500 lb

Length 26.3 ft (8.02 m)
Height 3.7 ft (1.13 m)
Span 33.8 ft (10.30 m)

Powerplant: Low bypass turbofan with reheat, developing 7,000lb
static dry thrust.
Speed, cruise: M 0.9
Speed, Maximum Sea Level: M 1.7

Ferry range: 1300 nm on internal fuel.
Combat Radius: 500 nm with 4,700lb strike payload
Combat Radius: 200 nm plus two hours on station with CAP payload
Max Endurance: Two hours, forty minutes on internal fuel
Ceiling 55,000 feet
Launch runway: wheeled
Recovery runway: wheeled
Sensors: Integrated electro-optical and staring infra-red, pulsed-doppler
radar, terrain following radar
Weapons carriage: Internal bay with three paired hardpoints, each pair rated to 2,000lb carriage. All hardpoints plumbed for fuel. Centre hardpoint
equipped for LANTIRN.
Two internal bays dimensioned for single ASRAAM. Each has single hardpoint/kicker bar rated to 400lb.

Typical payloads:
STRIKE: 2xPAVEWAY-II 2,000lb laser guided bomb, LANTIRN pod, 2xASRAAM
COMBAT AIR PATROL: 6xAMRAAM, 2xASRAAM
MARITIME STRIKE: 2xHarpoon, 2,000lb fuel, 2xASRAAM
ANTISUBMARINE: 2xMk46 Lightweight Aerial Torpedo, 2,000lb fuel, 2xASRAAM
SEA CONTROL: 2xCAPTOR Encapsulated Torpedo Mines
SEAD: 4xHARM, 2xRockeye-II, 2xASRAAM
CLOSE AIR SUPPORT: 4xMaverick, 2xRockeye-II, 2xASRAAM

Cost - 18 million per unit
Discount for GDODAD states - 10% (Allegiance must be stated at the time of the order)
26-05-2003, 16:56
Credits
The following nations have assisted in the construction of this marvellous piece of technology

Austrin-Ontis: Organisation and miscellaneous
Skager: Basic computer technology hardware and software
Kakalin: Primary control system program design
Halvanya: Communications hardware and software design
Orgotek: Electronic protection software design
Fyrn: Target recognition software
Inarli: Aircraft design
Whispering voices: Aircraft design, Wisp chassis for study
Stuff and Shinies: Materials research
Klamath: Advice on Aircraft design
Yerwhat: Aircraft design, Existing chassis for study

We would express out most profound thanks to all of them.
The Silver Turtle
26-05-2003, 16:59
Nice. I've been wondering when you'd be selling the Djinn. I'll take 1000.
Any GDODAD discount?
26-05-2003, 17:00
Nice. I've been wondering when you'd be selling the Djinn. I'll take 1000.
Any GDODAD discount?

What is the standard? I'll do that.
The Silver Turtle
26-05-2003, 17:04
Nice. I've been wondering when you'd be selling the Djinn. I'll take 1000.
Any GDODAD discount?

What is the standard? I'll do that.
10%
*wires 1.62 billion*
Tarasovka
26-05-2003, 17:04
I don't really think there is a standart...

Oh well, the aircraft seems to be a bit... weird for me, I'll stick with my Su's for the moment :D
26-05-2003, 17:05
Nice. I've been wondering when you'd be selling the Djinn. I'll take 1000.
Any GDODAD discount?

What is the standard? I'll do that.
10%
*wires 1.62 billion*

Thank you for your custom. We'll begin work on the 1000 now, and you can expect them over the next six months.
26-05-2003, 17:08
I don't really think there is a standart...

Oh well, the aircraft seems to be a bit... weird for me, I'll stick with my Su's for the moment :D

It's based off the designs for the next generation of UCAV fighters, the artists impressions of what they will look like anyway. The robotic control mechanism is based on my own knowledge (I'm a CompSci) and the stats were checked by my friendly neighbourhood military engineer.
26-05-2003, 17:11
We'd like to purchase some of this aircraft. however we have 2 misgivings.

1. Sharp edges visible on the airframe seem to undermine its stealth capabilities.

2. It seems awfully underpriced. (and too small to carry significant tonnage of weapons.)
26-05-2003, 17:15
Like i said, it takes 40 ppl to operate one UCAV, and one pilot can operate yours?
The Territory
26-05-2003, 17:17
Nice. I've been wondering when you'd be selling the Djinn. I'll take 1000.


Any GDODAD discount?





What is the standard? I'll do that.


10%


*wires 1.62 billion*



Trying to convince A-O to give you a 91% discount without even so much as opening the hatches on a boomer? :twisted:
26-05-2003, 17:19
We'd like to purchase some of this aircraft. however we have 2 misgivings.

1. Sharp edges visible on the airframe seem to undermine its stealth capabilities.

Ultimately it is a supersonic aircraft, and you are losing a great deal of stealth right there. We attempted to minimise sharp edges to cut down on the signature but it was not possible to entirely remove them. The fact that it is smaller than a conventional aircraft helps it too.


2. It seems awfully underpriced. (and too small to carry significant tonnage of weapons.)

It was estimated that a UCAV would cost approximately 1/3 of the price of a conventional aircraft, and that is what we have based the price on, slightly unrated to account for the robotic subsystem.

The payload is low, but they are designed to be mission specific craft deployed in good numbers. We certainly didn't find the payload to be a major issue in the Ammerrican campaign.
Skager
26-05-2003, 17:19
We'll take 1500 of the fighters. We were glad to help on this.
26-05-2003, 17:21
Nice. I've been wondering when you'd be selling the Djinn. I'll take 1000.


Any GDODAD discount?





What is the standard? I'll do that.


10%


*wires 1.62 billion*



Trying to convince A-O to give you a 91% discount without even so much as opening the hatches on a boomer? :twisted:

Point. 1000 craft are 16.2 billion, not 1.62. We'll take the 1.62 as a 10% deposit :D
Thelas
26-05-2003, 17:22
I would like 200.

great desing (sp), thank God I am a GDODAD member.
26-05-2003, 17:22
We'll buy one hundred units - to be delivered to the Bouri AFB (coords attached).
we are wiring you the monies.
26-05-2003, 17:23
We'll take 1500 of the fighters. We were glad to help on this.

Cost will be 24.3 billion and we'll get to work at once.

(We gave you the discount since you did help build the damn thing)
The Silver Turtle
26-05-2003, 17:27
Nice. I've been wondering when you'd be selling the Djinn. I'll take 1000.


Any GDODAD discount?





What is the standard? I'll do that.


10%


*wires 1.62 billion*



Trying to convince A-O to give you a 91% discount without even so much as opening the hatches on a boomer? :twisted:

Point. 1000 craft are 16.2 billion, not 1.62. We'll take the 1.62 as a 10% deposit :D
I know. The rest will be payed as the shipments are confirmed (1.62 per confirmation of a 100 craft, excepting this first one which is just a general deposit.)
The Territory
26-05-2003, 17:28
Point. 1000 craft are 16.2 billion, not 1.62. We'll take the 1.62 as a 10% deposit :D





Some Piranha Brothers impressions would add spice to GDODAD internal sales negotiations, though. :D
26-05-2003, 17:31
Thelas
200 units at GDODAD rate: 3.24 billion
Delivery schedule: 6-9 months

Islamic Ummah
100 units at standard rate: 1.8 billion
Delivery schedule: 6-9 months

It is a pleasure doing business with both of you.
Santa Barbara
26-05-2003, 17:34
Like i said, it takes 40 ppl to operate one UCAV, and one pilot can operate yours?

I believe it takes a lot more than 1 person to operate a standard fighter. A lot more. Think of an aircraft carrier and all those guys with the red and orange and yellow jackets.


The PCC will take 1000 Djinns for 18 billion USD.
26-05-2003, 17:35
Likewise.
Skager
26-05-2003, 17:37
We'll take 1500 of the fighters. We were glad to help on this.

Cost will be 24.3 billion and we'll get to work at once.

(We gave you the discount since you did help build the damn thing)

we will finish this by telegram. Your product is too popular to do buisness here.
26-05-2003, 17:38
Like i said, it takes 40 ppl to operate one UCAV, and one pilot can operate yours?

I believe it takes a lot more than 1 person to operate a standard fighter. A lot more. Think of an aircraft carrier and all those guys with the red and orange and yellow jackets.


The PCC will take 1000 Djinns for 18 billion USD.

Indeed, it takes people to move, arm, repair and maintain the UCAVs. They just don't require a guy in them.

Order confirmed.
26-05-2003, 19:11
Bump for joy!
The Silver Turtle
26-05-2003, 20:29
El bumpo
Edolia
26-05-2003, 21:53
We would like to purchase 500 planes. 9 billion wired. We'll also telegram you.
26-05-2003, 23:25
We would like to purchase 500 planes. 9 billion wired. We'll also telegram you.

Order confirmed and money is recieved. We should be able to deliver your planes within 8-10 months. As requested, details have also been sent via telegram.
Fyrn
27-05-2003, 10:00
From the Triumvirate of Fyrn, greetings:

We would like to order 100 units, with co-manufacturer discount. The first 10% has been wired to you, and the rest will follow on delivery. As always, a pleasure doing business with you.
imported_Ell
27-05-2003, 10:29
Ell would like to purchase 200. The money will be wired on confirmation and delivery.
27-05-2003, 16:32
Order Processing

Fyrn
100 units at co-manufacturers discount: 1.62 billion dollars (10% payment recieved)
Delivery should be complete within 8-10 months

Ell
200 units at standard rate: 3.6 billion dollars
Delivery should be complete within 8-10 months

It has a been a pleasure to conduct business with both of you, and we hope you will consider us for your military needs in the future.
28-05-2003, 10:25
Shameless-BUMP!
Monte Castello
28-05-2003, 13:02
The Castellan United Armed Forces requests 500 aircraft.

wiring 9 billion immediately
28-05-2003, 13:04
The Castellan United Armed Forces requests 500 aircraft.

wiring 9 billion immediately

Receipt of the 9 billion is confirmed, your planes will be delivered within 8-10 months. Thank you for doing business with us.
The Imperial Navy
28-05-2003, 13:06
Is it possible to convert these craft for space travel?

Phillip Marshall
President of the Imperial Navy
Head of the Imperial Alliance
UN Delegate for the Super Star Destroyer Iron Fist
28-05-2003, 13:07
i want 300.
28-05-2003, 13:09
i want 300.

No problem. That will be 4.86 billion and we'll be able to deliver them within 8-10 months. Thank you for doing business with us.
28-05-2003, 13:13
Is it possible to convert these craft for space travel?

Phillip Marshall
President of the Imperial Navy
Head of the Imperial Alliance
UN Delegate for the Super Star Destroyer Iron Fist

Hmmm. Not something we had considered. Well, obviously the lack of life support is not a problem since they are automated. You'd have to replace the engines because the current one needs external oxygen. That means you'd need a different way of maneuvering too, probably booster rockets. If I was doing it I'd want to boost the transmission range of the control systems too because of the distances of engagement that could happen in space.

Short answer is yes, but it will quite quite a lot of re-engineering. If we get enough interest we might consider going through with it, it would certainly be useful to us in the long run. If we did go through with this, what sort of number would you be interested in?
The Imperial Navy
28-05-2003, 13:16
I'll do the converting. I'll take 20, Wiring the money to you now.

+++Please wait+++

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+++Transaction compltete+++

Thanks for the business.

Phillip Marshall
President of the Imperial Navy
Head of the Imperial Alliance
UN Delegate for the Super Star Destroyer Iron Fist
28-05-2003, 13:23
I'll do the converting. I'll take 20, Wiring the money to you now.

+++Please wait+++

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+++Transaction compltete+++

Thanks for the business.

Phillip Marshall
President of the Imperial Navy
Head of the Imperial Alliance
UN Delegate for the Super Star Destroyer Iron Fist

Transaction confirmed. We'll have the full 20 out to you in 6-8 months but we are going to send two out immediately so you can start your work. Please contact us if your conversion is a success, we may be interested in obtaining a license for production.
Kelanthia
28-05-2003, 14:42
The Kelanthian Ministry of Defense would like to purchase 150 of these units please; we will also leave a telegram at the offices of the Austrin-Ontis government. Payment will be wired upon confirmation of this order.

<<Official Kelanthian Ministry of Defense Communique>>
28-05-2003, 16:36
I would like to purchase 100 of these aircraft. *Wires money
28-05-2003, 18:05
Order Processing

Kelanthia
150 units at standard rate: 2.7 billion dollars
Delivery in 10-12 months

Volonia
100 units at standard rate: 1.8 billion dollars
Delivery in 10-12 months

Our thanks for your custom, we hope you will consider us again for your future military needs and recommend us to your friends.
Stuff and Shinies
29-05-2003, 10:21
Once again you have proven yourself superior in the delicate and ever-changing weapons manufacturing industry. We offer our congratulations and an order for 500 units, with a co-manufacturer discount, of course.

Fondest regards

The Empress
29-05-2003, 12:30
We would like to congrat you for this wonderful idea and also would like to order 100 pieces. The money should arrive soon in your account. Wire me a telegram when the shippment will depart to my country. It was a pleasure doing business with you!
The Imperial Navy
29-05-2003, 12:34
Autran-outis, We have begun testing space travel equipt fighters...

Phillip Marshall
President of the Imperial Navy
Head of the Imperial Alliance
UN Delegate for the Super Star Destroyer Iron Fist
29-05-2003, 14:17
Order Processing

Stuff and Shinies
500 units at co-manufacturer discount: 8.1 billion dollars
Delivery within 6-8 months

Our thanks for your kind words, may this innovation assure the security of the Devils Desert for years to come.

Dwarfs and Elfs
100 units at standard rate: 1.8 billion dollars
Delivery within 6-8 months

Again our thanks for your compliments. We will inform you via telegram when the delivery takes place as you requested.
29-05-2003, 14:18
Autran-outis, We have begun testing space travel equipt fighters...

Phillip Marshall
President of the Imperial Navy
Head of the Imperial Alliance
UN Delegate for the Super Star Destroyer Iron Fist

How are they performing? This is something which is of great interest to us, as I mentioned before.
Tarrican
29-05-2003, 17:13
Tarrican is interested in purchasing a dozen of these craft for the purpose of a display team.
This would result in a cost of $216 dollars, alas we cannot claim a discount.

Would it be possible to negociate a repair/servicing contract at the same time, looking to maintain the craft for 25-30 years?
29-05-2003, 17:17
Tarrican is interested in purchasing a dozen of these craft for the purpose of a display team.
This would result in a cost of $216 dollars, alas we cannot claim a discount.

Would it be possible to negociate a repair/servicing contract at the same time, looking to maintain the craft for 25-30 years?

216 million dollars, I think you'll find :D

Hmmm, we'll have to have a look at the technicalities of setting up such a system. Normally distance would seem to preclude such an arrangement but since we share a region it is certainly more viable. Initial answer would be yes, although you will have to give us a little time to work out the figures.

Order is confirmed for 12 Djinn fighters in the meantime. Delivery should take place within 4-6 months given the small order and our close proximity. We'll hold back asking for payment until we have definate figures on the maintainance contract though. Will contact you via telegram.
Tarrican
29-05-2003, 17:28
216 million dollars, I think you'll find :D

As you say. My appologies for the typographical error.
We await your telegram.
30-05-2003, 09:25
216 million dollars, I think you'll find :D

As you say. My appologies for the typographical error.
We await your telegram.

Dispatched. You should find the deal very reasonable.

BUMP!
31-05-2003, 18:40
We'd like to buy a further 200 units of your aircraft.

Thank you

Abu-Reau Crat , Weapons Procurements Office
Ministry of Defense & Advanced Research
04-06-2003, 12:31
We'd like to buy a further 200 units of your aircraft.

Thank you

Abu-Reau Crat , Weapons Procurements Office
Ministry of Defense & Advanced Research

Fantastic. Your custom is always welcome, espicially since they will likely be used as part of your 'War on Terror' campaign. We have sufficient reserve to deliver immediately, at a cost of 3.6 billion.

Also, if any nation who has purchased Djinn has not already assumed so:

All orders are now cleared

Which of course means that any future orders can be handled very quickly.
Objectivist Insurgents
27-09-2003, 00:07
We'll take 5,000.
*Wires money to Austrin-Ontis*

Jon Fiskars
Mastermind/CEO of the Rogue Nation of Objectivist Insurgents
DEATH TO SATO!
Objectivist Insurgents
29-09-2003, 06:34
^bump^
imported_Ell
29-09-2003, 06:53
Wow, what a long bump!
30-09-2003, 17:29
We'll take 5,000.
*Wires money to Austrin-Ontis*

Jon Fiskars
Mastermind/CEO of the Rogue Nation of Objectivist Insurgents
DEATH TO SATO!

Sorry about the delay. Your order is currently being assembled and the money is confirmed as transfered.

Objectivist Insurgents
5000 units at standard rate: 90 billion dollars
Delivery within 9-12 months (3-4 RL days)

Thank you for your custom.