Sales of the MiG 33
The MiG-33,
a new fighter, is a deep modernisation of the MiG-29.
The main goals of the modernisation were:
- multifunctionality with further growth of air-to-air and air-to-
ground capability widely using high-precision weapons;
- considerable growth of combat range owing to an increase
in the internal fuel capacity;
- better pilot-to-aircraft interface in the cockpit;
- introduction of new-generation equipment.
Function: Multi-role fighter
Crew: 1
Engine: Two Sarkisov RD-33 afterburning turbofans, 18,300 lb thrust each
Dimensions
Wing span: 11.36 m
Length: 17.32 m
Height: 4.73 m
Weight: 33,600 lb empty / 40,785 lb max. take off
Ceiling: 55,775 ft
Speed: 2,545 km/h
Range: 2,500 km
Armament: One GSh-30-1 30mm cannon with 150 rounds, plus 7,614 lb including AAMs, ASMs, bombs, rockets, drop tanks, and ECM pods carried on six external points
http://www.military.cz/russia/air/mig/Mig_33/mig_33.jpg
Cost: 16,000,000 each
Cost for Navalised version: 17,000,000 each
Ha! Com'on I bet the MiG-31 is better than that.
I'll take one thanks. i will wire money on receipt of my plane
mig-31's cost about 10,000,000 more
Delivery of the 1 aircraft has been completed.
Aha that was one of my puppet nations (AmericanSamoa). As i now have the plane, I can start to produce it for myself. SUCKED IN
Actually thats copyright infrigement.
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It's not as easy to reverse engineer a plane as you think.
dont worry Fik i use F-18's in my military not your crappy Mig-33's
I'll take 50
wiring 900 million dollars
...
...wiring complete
(oh, the advantages of a powerhouse economy :P )
so, no producing on our own I guess...
darn.
Powerfularmies
F-18's haha, those are garbage. Those have only been adopted as a cost saving measure and will be replaced as soon as the JSF's arrive. They are average bombers and even worse fighters. MiG-29's and 33's can beat any U.S. fighter in a dogfight except for the F-22. The F-18 is slow and unmanuevrable, only bieng useful since it has long range and wide repetiore of ordinance. The Super Hornet is even worse since it ends up weighing more and bieng even less manuevrable. Not to mention the Super Hornet costs 60,000,000 and the Hornet costs 40,000,000.
Payment received Powerful, you can produce them on your own but you would need to buy a license from the original designers.
The Free Community of Priquistan would like to acquire 20 Mig-33 to form an Air-Superiority Squadron. We consider the Mig-33 an excellent fighter-interceptor. Also, we were very satisfied with the Yak-141 we previously bought from you.
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320,000,000 USD wired
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Nice doing business with you!
(OOC: indeed, everything you said about the F/A-18 Hornet and the Super Hornet is true. The F-14 is superior to the Hornet in every aspect. The Super Hornet is a skilled Air-to-Ground Attack plane, but a mediocre fighter at best. A F-16 outguns the Super Hornet at a dogfight any time. Heck, I guess even an F-5 will beat a Super Hornet at a dogfight! Fully armed for attack, it can barely achieve Mach 1, and with burners, what worsens its already terrible manouverability. The Mig-29, altough a bad ground attacker and with little air autonomy (1/3 of the Su-27) is extremely manouverable (loses only to the Su-27) and deadly at close quarters. It will lose only to the F-15 (due to its greater speed and altitude), and maybe the Rafale, Eurofighter and Gripen. The Mirage 2000-5 can prove a tough match.
MiG-29's and 33's cant be all bad, the Modern German Airforce uses them. Payment was recieved, and planes shipped. Nice doing buisness with you again! I think alot of people like the F/A 18 because it was in the movie ID4 lol.
imported_Ell
24-05-2003, 09:46
Do you have any other aircraft, notable the Su-47?
Andaluciae
24-05-2003, 12:52
I will buy 3 of these at the above said price. We desire more fun for our people at airshows and a new plane is a good idea.
*wires cash*
Andaluciae
24-05-2003, 12:59
The Hornets primary role is for a naval attack aircraft. I would never have considered a fighter, just sort of a naval F-111 aardvark sort of. If redisigned to be a ground and not carrier based fighter, the F-18 would have some dogfighting value, and anyways, the only countries the US is going to take on are little itsy bitsy countries whose air forces number 5 Mig 21s, so it is not much of a concern that it will fight Mig-29.
The F-15, on the other hand, is a pretty proficient plane, not as good with dog-fighting, but that does not matter due to the quantities of AMRAAM air-to-air missiles it carries, Which makes an attempt to dogfight an F-15 like the sword scene in Indiana Jones. Toodles!
Andaluciae
Andaluciae
24-05-2003, 12:59
The Hornets primary role is for a naval attack aircraft. I would never have considered a fighter, just sort of a naval F-111 aardvark sort of. If redisigned to be a ground and not carrier based fighter, the F-18 would have some dogfighting value, and anyways, the only countries the US is going to take on are little itsy bitsy countries whose air forces number 5 Mig 21s, so it is not much of a concern that it will fight Mig-29.
The F-15, on the other hand, is a pretty proficient plane, not as good with dog-fighting, but that does not matter due to the quantities of AMRAAM air-to-air missiles it carries, Which makes an attempt to dogfight an F-15 like the sword scene in Indiana Jones. Toodles!
Andaluciae
Do you have any other aircraft, notable the Su-47?
I'll talk to my Defense Industry and see if they could produce it.
Shipped your order Andaluciae
We can also upgrade standard MiG 29's to the MiG 33 for only 1,500,000 per aircraft.
Do you have any other aircraft, notable the Su-47?
I'll talk to my Defense Industry and see if they could produce it.
Shipped your order Andaluciae
no you cant, you are too small for this kind of tech.
That's why I didn't produce it :D
I'll take 6 Mig 33's for a total of $96 mill. I also wanted to inquire about the possibility of my country contracting yours to help us establish our industry (esp. in the production of earlier model Mig's)
Hi Fik. I will take 40 for my upcoming battle with the Libertonians. (The spacefleet has stood down after a great loss) I have 600 tons of Platinum to offer you for the fighters. Drpships are en route to FiK as we ramble.
Sounds like a good deal Raving, they should come in usefull as will the Plutonium in my case...damn 600 tons is alot of plutonium.
Neppauz send me a telegram and we can talk, the order has been shipped.
4,000,000 recieved, planes sent.
4,000,000 recieved, planes sent.
Excellent. These are carrier capable right?
Carrier capable costs 1 million more each, want me to add that to the price?
4,250,000,000 would be the new cost.
We wish to buy 500 of Navalised versions of Mig-33s.
$8.5 billion wired.
I need only 150 of the carrier capable ones. The rest can be regular.
The PsychoBat is a far more capable weapon so we shall not be purchasing this fighter. Anyone interested in purchasing a PsychoBat or two, search for it with the forum search tool.
Don't come into my thread and insult my products and advertise your own.
Ok the bisons I adjusted your bill and sent the planes out.
Don't come into my thread and insult my products and advertise your own.
Ok the bisons I adjusted your bill and sent the planes out.
Ignore him he cant have anything good at his age.
Yeah anyway i just looked and it uses liquid plasma engines...
rofl
Just to note, I am not at war with the Libertonians anymore. But I will still take some. Hope you enjoy the plutonium.
The Federation of the Northern Orient will buy 24, for a grand total of $3,840,000,000.00.
Ide like to buy 5,000 of your mig-33's that are naval ready for a total sum of 85,000,000,000.
Thank You
USA2
OUT
Russian jet fighters are built to be tough and they live up to that reputation.
Fik, I will gladly order 10 Naval versions of the Mig-33 for my aircraft carrier and 12 Mig-33s. The money has been sent and delivered.
By the way, thanks for the Yak-141. Those jets are awesome.
Ha! Com'on I bet the MiG-31 is better than that.
Different planes, different roles...MiG-31 is a long range, high speed interceptor designed to carry long range air to air missiles, not a nimble fighter like the MiG29/MiG33.
Do you carry any MiG-21s? I am in love with thems. We use 3 for High-Speed low level reconisance. Er something. I cant spell it.
And I thought the Swedes built their aircraft tough too. They take the off from highways and forest clearings. (I have a great picture of a Draaken taking off from a field)
Russian jet fighters are built to be tough and they live up to that reputation.
Fik, I will gladly order 10 Naval versions of the Mig-33 for my aircraft carrier and 12 Mig-33s. The money has been sent and delivered.
By the way, thanks for the Yak-141. Those jets are awesome.
Roger that, sent 'em out.
would like to buy 400 more, next year
so you will receive the 6.8 billion tommorow
would like to buy 400 more, next year
so you will receive the 6.8 billion tommorow
Isn't that just about your whole budget?
we'll take 3. will wire you money when we receive goods
buy the f-22, f-15 or f-16 at http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33514 they are much better than the Mig-33
Yeah whatever moron your MiG 29's cost more than my MiG 33's and the rest are overpriced pieces of garbage...
have a cry...i just made an 11 billion dollar deal so shove THAT one up ur arse
Yeah and I've made several multi-billion dollar deals plus my sales are still on-going so eat shit...
Know what? I don't care, this is the 2nd time you've brought your trash into this thread, and no one cares. You just try to take away my sales but fail miserably, so from now on I'm just gonna ignore you.
Hahahahaha!
would like to buy 400 more, next year
so you will receive the 6.8 billion tommorow
Isn't that just about your whole budget?
no, according to the GDP calc. I have over 100 billion to spend
Ok, I sent them on their way.
hey. I need three more Mig 33s.
*cash wired*
They're on ships heading your way.
17 billion for navalised craft. How many would that be?
You got that much money?
It would be 1,000 planes.
You got that much money?
It would be 1,000 planes.
Yeah, Belem donated a huge sum of money to us when we had the war with Edolia. The war was over, but the money stayed.
I want to thank Pilot for invading us... now we have lots of Allies and money.
hey how much for production rights?
We will take one.
~ IDF Research Division
confirming your orders. Ma-tek yours will be free of charge as a friendly gesture.
we would like to order 32 MiG-33s.
512 million to be forwarded immediately upon confirmation.
-Gen. Casper Rynn
Minister of War, PRS.
i will by 10 but how do i wire you the money
we would like to order 32 MiG-33s.
512 million to be forwarded immediately upon confirmation.
-Gen. Casper Rynn
Minister of War, PRS.
confirmed
1000 of them please.
Total: 16,000,000,000
/Money Wired/
New Genoa
13-07-2003, 02:26
I'll buy 300
Ferrussia
14-07-2003, 07:55
The People's Republic of Ferrussia would like:
1 wing (72x) MiG-33 (Navalized) ($1.224 billion)
Money to be wired automatically on confirmation.
Thank you.
alrighty kiddies orders confirmed
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New Genoa
14-07-2003, 12:34
alrighty kiddies orders confirmedthe navalised version though. *mpney wired*
BTW, are these MiG-33B Super Fulcrums or just MiG-33s?
F-18's haha, those are garbage. Those have only been adopted as a cost saving measure and will be replaced as soon as the JSF's arrive. They are average bombers and even worse fighters. MiG-29's and 33's can beat any U.S. fighter in a dogfight except for the F-22. The F-18 is slow and unmanuevrable, only bieng useful since it has long range and wide repetiore of ordinance. The Super Hornet is even worse since it ends up weighing more and bieng even less manuevrable. Not to mention the Super Hornet costs 60,000,000 and the Hornet costs 40,000,000.
The Hornets primary role is for a naval attack aircraft. I would never have considered a fighter, just sort of a naval F-111 aardvark sort of. If redisigned to be a ground and not carrier based fighter, the F-18 would have some dogfighting value, and anyways, the only countries the US is going to take on are little itsy bitsy countries whose air forces number 5 Mig 21s, so it is not much of a concern that it will fight Mig-29.
Andaluciae
you 2 are filled of excrement and anyone who supported you is also. eg that moron who double posted
The US Navy plans to use F/A-22 F-35 and F/A-18E "Super Hornets" as thier main aircraft.
Canada uses thier F/A-18s as Fighters
F/A-18 is an capable dogfighter. The F/A-18 is not slow and it is not unmanuevrable where ever you got your information it is wrong.
It was orignaly designed to fill the same role as the F-16 and the Marines use land based versions.
The F/A-18 was made before the fall of the soviet union and you cant argue that anything made before 1990 was designed to go up anything but the best, top of the line most modern soviet fighters.
Also The Navys Blue Angels Aerobatic Team (air stunts prescion flying ) uses the most manuevarble aircraft in the navys service at the time. at this current time it is the F/A-18 Hornet.
Thank you and STFU
you 2 are filled of excrement and anyone who supported you is also. eg that moron who double posted
The US Navy plans to use F/A-22 F-35 and F/A-18E "Super Hornets" as thier main aircraft.
Canada uses thier F/A-18s as Fighters
F/A-18 is an capable dogfighter. The F/A-18 is not slow and it is not unmanuevrable where ever you got your information it is wrong.
It was orignaly designed to fill the same role as the F-16 and the Marines use land based versions.
The F/A-18 was made before the fall of the soviet union and you cant argue that anything made before 1990 was designed to go up anything but the best, top of the line most modern soviet fighters.
Also The Navys Blue Angels Aerobatic Team (air stunts prescion flying ) uses the most manuevarble aircraft in the navys service at the time. at this current time it is the F/A-18 Hornet.
Thank you and STFU
Navy test pilot comments* (as of January 2002):
° "The (F/A-18E/F) aircraft is slower than most fighters fielded since the early 1960s."
° A Hornet pilot who flew numerous side-by-side comparison flights with F/A-18E/F SuperHornets said: "We outran them, we out-flew them and we ran them out of gas. I was embarrassed for them"
Navy F-14 pilots speak vividly about the SuperHornet (in an Associated Press article in late 2001):
"Its the same old Hornet shit, repackaged, which was designed to keep the politicians happy." He said that "it can never match the Tomcat's long range, (Mach) 2.4 speed and predator mystique. (...) The capability the Tomcat has for speed is amazing, there is not another plane in the Navy's inventory that can come anywhere close to it. You look at the plane on the ground and it looks intimidating, it looks like something that is made for war. I hope the liberal fudge packing, (...) who thought the Hornet could replace this avaition masterpiece rot in hell."
Shut up retard, I know F-14 pilots who now fly F/A-18's and they mostly don't like it.
We would like 2467 of the naval enabled one
...how much would it cost
FiK your and idiot im glad you got deleted. The F-18 was never meant to replace the F-14. Just because its not as fast ad the F-14 doesnt mean its shit
Thats like saying the M-14 is inferior to the M-1 Garand Beacuse the M-4A1 is so much better then the M-14.
Whatever douchebag...NEXT
The Basenji
15-07-2003, 17:04
I'm sorry to hear your nation got deleted Fik...
Why dont u tell these former F-14 pilots who now fly f-18s "MiG-29's and 33's can beat any U.S. fighter in a dogfight except for the F-22." you jackass
Why dont u tell these former F-14 pilots who now fly f-18s "MiG-29's and 33's can beat any U.S. fighter in a dogfight except for the F-22." you jackass
God, GDI, stop hijacking FiK's thread and flames him. DO you want me to get a mod here?
They can beat them in a dogfight retard...but the U.S. has better missiles. And the USA has some MiG-29's and Germany has them too, think they never use them to test our aircraft?
Your full of BS you've got the BS skill down. i'll leave you to your lies moron I dont feel like I have to prove to you my knowledge on u.s. military aircraft which im confident it is superior to your knowledge, on a stupid internet forum. good day.
you're the one getting worked up about it genius.
Your full of BS you've got the BS skill down. i'll leave you to your lies moron I dont feel like I have to prove to you my knowledge on u.s. military aircraft which im confident it is superior to your knowledge, on a stupid internet forum. good day.
MODALERT
For: flaming, hijacking
Hey you guys I think we should stop buying because Fik's dead.
nah I can still have my puppets sell stuff...I have 2 that are over 250 million
The Republic of Liechtenhoch wishes to purchase 10 MIG-33 Fighters to patrol and defend our vast coastline.
Thank You.
Benyamin Taylor
Liechtenhoch Defense Ministry
can u tell me the thread for the Mig-45 Fik? Im gonna buy 500 of them.
i have to say that people who think that the f-18 is junk are ignorant, they arent bad fighters, getting a little old now, but they arent junk, hell the only reasons why we use b1-lancers is because it cost so much to build them, i mean comon, does the US really need a supersonic bomber? it costs SOOO much every flight, its a waste. some migs are ok, especially the mig 27 (oooo pretty :D)
I would like to purchase 2 Mig-33 please the money is wired
We need 200 to defend our skys from NATO
The money is wired for jono land's order
i shall buy none of your silly planes you comunist agressor. besides they are totally inferior to my Wombat 37 attack copters.
I'll take 20 Mig-33 Fighters.
Net total: $320,000,000
Money wired. Thanks.
North Germania
30-10-2003, 02:39
From: Armed Forces of North Germania
To: FiK
We would like to purchase fifty (50) of the MiG-33 fighters ($480,000,000).
Money wired. Glad to purchase from you.
- Feldmarshal Rudolf Küll -
- Armed Forces of North Germania -
- The Armed Republic of North Germania -
- [Axis of the Neu Reich] -
300 mig 33 for $5,100,000,000
these will be useful for the pepole of aracas
if your suspicios i am selling stuff so i can afford them
thankyou