ANNOUNCEMENTS: Western Asian Advanced Technologies [Archive]

Western Asia

28-04-2003, 07:46

----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
5/12/2003 6:20 LST
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Aerospace and Air Systems Developments

The Greater Israeli Aeronautics and Space Agency (GI-NASA) announces that a recent test-launching of its first indigenous cargo-lifting rocket (the 4th and final such effort), the Shavit was a stunning success. In the next 3 mos., several launches will occur that will put Western Asian satellites (Produced by Greater Israel Aircraft Industries' MBT division) into various orbiting heights.

The planned launches including a geosynchronous communications satellite (AMOS), a sub-meter resolution Earth Resources Observation Satellite (EROS), as well as other, civilian-purpose satellites. There are now a large but undisclosed number of EROS-class (Mk III)and AMOS-class (Mk IIa) satellites in orbit.

AMOS, EROS, and 24 civilian satellites have been launched.

A large series of GPS satellites have also been launched, and this system now covers the main Areas of Operation (AOs) for Western Asia as well as many other regions with tight-band, interference-resistant signals.

Also in orbit is a geosynchronous observational satellite that is programmable but otherwise "stored" above WA, where it will be used to create high-precision maps for self-defense.

A series of at least 15 additional LE orbit satellites of the EROS-line (with slight improvements) have also been launched (see above note)

UPDATE: A new multispectrum observation satellite is being developed that will allow the operators unprecidented information about the location of enemy forces as it side-steps the cover of camo nets. The same technology can be used in a civilian capacity to monitor the health of agricultural plants and should even differentiate between species.

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In other news, GI-NASA has also developed and tested a series of Ballistic Missiles. These include the Jericho I (500km range) Ballistic Warhead Test Platform and the Jericho II (1,500 to 3,500km range, dependant on payload).

The Jericho I proved the technologies that are employed in the production-model Jericho II, which passed through its tests with what are considered to be flying colors: Only 2 explosions in the first 6 launches (all from easily avoidable operator errors) and no explosions after the 4th launch (of 13). The Jericho II met both strength and range testing demands in 11 successful tests under controlled conditions. 5 adverse-condition test launches have also been completed with great success. The Jericho II is now deployed at over 70 sites (unknown actual number) with over 240 missiles (actual numbers unknown).

An upgrade to the Jericho II is in the works that will improve the guidance and ballistic-control systems. The upgraded models will be designated

The Jericho III is in the final prototype-testing stage and is calculated to have a range of up to (4,800km) during full-fire testing, an improvement of a 3,000 km from the previous conservative estimates and exactly what the generals had hoped for. The Jericho III components are being organized and tested for a limited-run test production set. The first production-run Jericho III is in the works.

Since Western Asia is a GUDA member, these missiles will not bear Nuclear warheads.

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GIAI (Greater Israel Aeronautics Industries) has also announced that a study is on-going concerning the viability of the F-22 Raptor Fighter (range: 900mi, Top speed: Mach 2.0) and the FB-22 Fighter-Bomber (range: 2,200mi, Top speed: Mach 1.8 ) in Western Asia's plans. The ceiling for both versions is 60,000 ft. The study is leaning towards a limited deployment of F-22s with the expectation that modern, capable, cheap and expendible UCAVs will be coming shortly out of GIAI efforts that are becoming less-classified in preparation for combat deployment.

UPDATE: The study proved to be unfavorable towards the F-22s although no alternatives were given. A limited production of 20 F-22s will occur and while there was no official mention of a reason that the FB-22 was dropped it is believed that these designs are to be replaced by that of the "Switchblade" Fighter-bomber that is rumored to be about. The UCAVs will indeed serve in the interim.

Meanwhile, GIAI is set to begin the production of the long-awaited WAF-35 JSF (OOC: I mentioned it in my regional thread, it's still there) in the Carrier-based (CV) and Short Take-off Vertical Landing (STOVL) configurations. The JSF is expected to give the Western Asian fleet an ability to provide advance support against materiel targets and opponents to the ground forces. Over 250 have rolled off of GIAI production lines of an expected 360. 200 will be the CV version and 160 the STOVL version. A contract is coming up for the renewal/continuation of production but it seems that much of the market has been absorbed by the arrival of practical UCAVs with an unexpected breakthrough in basic AI programming.

The CV and STOVL JSFs are expected to be offered as possible armaments for the coming Western Asian line of Aircraft Carriers. Western Asia's own GIAI has been producing various missile types for a while now and is ready to move several models to market along with the JSFs and Carriers. The new UCAVs will also possibly be available for sale with the carriers, as well as a new possible "Super Harrier," a "poor-man's JSF" that is being developed by Beth Gellert with extensive technical support from GIAI.

Western Asia is looking into evaluating and possibly obtaining plans F-14s but it looks unlikely considering recent developments elsewhere.

The F-15Is are already in limited production in Greater Israel. And F/A-18s are under serious consideration. The F-16I has been chosen as an intermediate mainfleet fighter for Western Asia.

Specs (working):

The F-16I-series has a two-seat cockpit configuration with advanced avionic technologies, new weapons, and improved Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-229 engines and is similar to the F-16D model in service with the USAF. The aircraft are equipped with FLIR (forward-looking infrared) viewers, for target designation, and features increased external fuel capacity in conformal fuel tanks, increasing the aircraft range to 800 miles (1,500 km). These systems give the F-16s new combat capabilities including simultaneous, multi-target air-to-air intercept, standoff, all-weather precision strike and enhanced survivability against the most advanced threats. It is expected that the Israelis will equip the F-16s with the advanced RAFAEL Derby medium-range air-to-air missile and the RAFAEL Python-4 short-range air-to-air missile. The Derby is a radar-guided missile similar to the American AIM-120 AMRAAM. Advanced radar seeker performance enables the engagement of several targets from short ranges to beyond visual range. The Python-4, widely considered to be the finest heat-seeking missile in the world, is capable of engaging targets within a wider area than the current U.S. AIM-9 Sidewinder.

This is expected to cost WA $33million to have it supplied by GIAI and export discussions are underway.

UPDATE: A limited supply of F-18s are to be purchased. It is expected that the model will be an "F-18I" based on the Superhornet but with upgrades in avionics similar to what the F-16I has received.

Industry insiders have been talking about some mysterious variable-wing Fighter-bomber with high supersonic abilites. Apparently, the GIAI Midnight Special Projects Division (Midnight SPD) is behind this new design, nick-named the "Switchblade." A combination of national security issues and a lack of information means that we are not or cannot provide any more information at this time.

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In other aeronautics news, a massive, ground-effect transporter is on the boards of GIAI planners, called the "Pelican," this massive plane would be able to air-lift large loads across oceans or continents at only a few meters above the surface, thus exploiting the "ground effect" that provides low-flying craft with an air cushion that cuts down on the required fuel loads for such a craft, which can fly at hundreds of miles an hour. This is seen as direct competition for the High Speed Vessel (HSV) that GINY (Greater Israeli Naval Yards) is producing and which will soon come out for public sale both in the FTT configuration, which can transport a battalion's worth of marines including a full compliment of attached equipment and materiel quickly and cheaply; a Near-shore Hospital/Disaster Relief (NSH/DF) configuration; and a forward security platform that could launch, retreive, and support special operations or security task forces.

Outline of final specs.
Title: Pelican Superheavy WIG Cargo Lifter (PSWIG-CL) Mk. 1 (AKA Pelican Ultra Large Transport Aircraft or PelicanULTRA)
Speed: 300+ mph
Mass: 3.2 million pounds (empty, full fuel load)
Range: 12,000 mi (loaded, at WIG altitudes)
Engines: 4, 80,000hp turbine (turboprop) engines (which are more efficient than standard jet engines). Using 50ft dia, 8-bladed, counter-rotating propellers (4 at each of 2 levels).

Dimensions:
-----Length: 400 ft
-----Breadth: 500 ft

Cargo, Capacity, and Use:
-----Carrying Capacity: 2.8 Million pounds (1,400 tons) of cargo.
-----Storage Area: 2 decks with a combined area of 29,000 sq ft
-----Cargo Equivalent: about 180 standard 8X8X20 cargo containers or 17 Abrams M1A1s and many containers.
-----Functional Altitudes: Functions in the WIG (ground-effect) range of 20-50ft (wing-tip to seasurface) or up to about 20,000 ft
-----Functionality of Use: Unlike the Soviet ekranoplan it doesn't require any heavy plating and can land well inland. Paved and decently-supported runways are a MUST, since it can reach up to almost 6million pounds at take off. The issues and effects of so great a mass are being evaluated although the first Pelican is almost completed. The outer wing sections fold up for ease of use in airports (outer 2/5, 1/5 on a side).

Smaller planes meant to bear smaller, but still significant loads are developed and undergoing testing.

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A special operations version, known as the Special Operations Command Ship (SOCS) was test-deployed to Sniper Country and has proven competent in its baseline combat duties.

FFT specs will be forth coming.

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The Automated/Unmanned Products Division of GIMI (Greater Israeli Military Industries) has announced that the Hummingbird and Dragonfly projects with GIAI have advanced past the initial systems test phase and that prototypes of the two vehicles are being tested now. These are all "unmanned combat armed rotorcraft" (UCAR) predecessors or test vehicles and their progress is pleasing to the Western Asian top brass. The Vigilante, a relatively "normally" designed UCR, is to be the benefactor of these developments. It is to be the first WA UCAR to be operationally armed, although the progress of the Dragonfly indicates that internal weapons bays may be built into advanced versions.

The Hummingbird is a Remote Reconnaissance Rotary Flying Vehicle (R3FV) that is essentially a remote-controlled helicopter with several improvements: The 35-foot craft has a 30-40hour endurance and bears a variety of sensors and intelligence-gathering devices. It uses variable-pitch blades on an extra-long rotor. Much of the high-stress blades are formed out of carbon-fiber and, thanks to recent innovations, much more stout than conventional helicopters although the craft has a much smaller body than conventional counterparts.

The Dragonfly is an experimental 18ft dual-mode craft that switches between rotary and lifting-surface altitude-maintenance methods. This allows it to switch from the form of a slow but maneuverable VTOL helicopter to a fast-moving (STOL, or Short Take-Off and Landing) plane, all made possible by a special "triple-lifting-surface design" that maintains lift while the craft switches between modes. This will allow greater VTOL capabilities for Western Asia's smaller "pocket aircraft carriers." The specifics of the design give the Dragonfly a "stealth" radar-evading design that greatly improves its combat capabilities.

The Development is part of a program seeking alternatives and expanded ranges for the UAVs that GIAI and GIMI have already developed. GINY has also dabbled in AUSVs, which are automated, taskable mini subs that have 4 pre-loaded torpedo tubes and which run on batteries and are launched in groups of 3 or 4 from a mothersub that carries 12 of the AUSVs in divots on the surface of the sub that allow a good deal of hydrodynamics to be maintained while transporting and refurbishing the AUSVs.
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UCAVs emerged from the depths of the GIAI Midnight SPD about 2 years ago. Tests were very successful and various specs for considered models were never released although they might be shortly. The models have been in an "advanced development" stage with modifications and improvements being made to common problems before deployment.

Some models are reported to be ship-launchable to dovetail with current efforts by Western Asia in that field.
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Western Asia's Defense Advanced Research and Development Agency (WA-DARPA) has now perfected cruise-missile based Directional Electromagnetic Pulse Electronics Reduction system (DEMPER) that will allow the missile to disable enemy electronics systems over an undisclosed range. A first-run version of the missile was in limited-production for testing and temporary emergency deployment purposes but an upgraded version, the DM-2 (DEMPER Missile, Model 2) "Owl."
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New CH-53s are rolling off of the GIAI production line to fill the heavy-lift role for support of WA ships and forces. They will be distributed to battalions using WA's current line of H-60 helicopters as a heavier format helicopter for intermediate use until upgraded helicopters can be developed.

An upgraded Blackhawk class is emerging with greater capabilities and an accordingly greater price.

Native attack helicopters have moved from project formulation to concept execution. The specs are currently classified but will become available very soon.

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Ground Systems Developments

"Smart Shell" Technology
Scientist developed a new generation of visual stealth technology. It works by a special, electric-charge driven process, which allows the covered object to blend into its surroundings up to 65% in the final prototype version. A more refined beta test version is expected to reach a 80% or greater blending effect. Applied as an integrated system with devices, it acts to shield the object from visual identification and resultant targeting by enemy forces. The image that appears on one side is the result of images collected from the opposite side of the background scenery. The technology doesn’t work as well in sharply-lined backgrounds (reported blending effect of only 50%), but in those situations the system can be deactivated as the normal tank armor tends to act in a similar way in urban and industrial conditions. In such situations, there is the alternative of having "variable camo" patterns that could be programmed in to take effect under certain conditions. Along with new "vehicle ghillies," the system should greatly improve the vehicle and material concealment capabilities of Western Asia.

Concerns about the viability of a constantly-changing pattern have led to the development of software that would allow a "Smart Shell"-equipped vehicle to change camoflauge at will, thus enabling a greater operational range and meaning less down-time due to the application of new patterns. The options being tested include one that draws from the surroundings to develop a camoflauge pattern that will stay with the vehicle until the next change is initiated.

Although the system is still experimental and untested in combat-simulated conditions, the initial tests have been "very promising."

UPDATE: Integration studies are now underway that will adjust the system to work on WA craft. The first test vehicles are said to be an Achzarit, an M113 Gavin, and a Merkava MBT.

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A new light infantry high mobility vehicle, the Wildcat High Mobility Light Armored Vehicle (WHMLAV), which is borne on 8 tires, has been adopted and various modifications and configurations are being developed. The two most immediately available models will be the Wildcat Mobile Gun System (WMGS) that will be equipped with a 105mm, auto-loading and remote cannon. This vehicle is meant to support ground forces with heavy, readily available firepower from an easily-accessable source. The Wildcat is NOT meant to be a stand-alone vehicle and is not a tank. It is meant to support light infantry operations and has a conceptual role in a new Marine Expeditionary Unit format of deployment for Western Asia as a mobile, easily transportable fire support platform in addition to the M113 Gavin. With a max speed of 60mph and a range of 300mi on a tank of gas, the Wildcat is more self-sufficient and lean running than its larger cousins, the heavy and powerful MBTs.

The Wildcat is likely to also come in many configurations. Western Asia plans on using these as very light support vehicles and are not meant to go alone against MBTs or other heavy tanks.
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Also ready for production is the Achzarit, a heavily-armored tracked vehicle of native design. The Achzarit bears an additional layer of Western Asian passive armor, to provide protection against small arms and some rockets, on top of the T-54/55 chassis which was chosen as the basis of the vehicle. It can carry 10 men, 3 of whom are crew. The full combat weight is 44 tons, greatly due to the additional layers of armor.

The driver is located at the front left of the vehicle, along with the vehicle commander, and is provided with 4 periscopes for driving without exposure. 6 more periscopes are provided in the rear of the vehicle for the use of the infantry men.

In the front right seat is the gunner, who controls a 7.62mm M240 machine gun (can be replaced by .50 cal machinegun). The Gunner does not have to even expose himself to enemy fire, since the gun is operated by the RAFAEL Overhead Weapons System, which allows the gunner to scan, target, fire, and assess the situation without ever being exposed.

3 more 7.62mm machine guns are also mounted on the vehicle: 1 on the commander's hatch and 2 over the rear troop compartment. Additional armaments include a bank of 6 GIMI CL-3030 instantaneous self-screening system for combatant vehicles. This system was originally installed on Greater Israeli MBTs. This can launch various types of grenade over the frontal arc of the vehicle. The vehicle can also lay a smoke screen by dropping diesel fuel into the exhaust pipe on the left side of the vehicle.

The Achzarit is meant to accompany Western Asia's Merkava-family of MBTs into battle situations as a well-defended troop transporter that can ensure survivability for its occupants. The infantry soldiers can leave by the hatches in the roof of the troop compartment or by means of a hydraulic clamshell door that opens to the rear of the vehicle. The systems of the vehicle are powered by an especially compact power pack that is installed in the rear of the vehicle. The Mk 2 power pack is the Detroit Diesel 8V-92 TA diesel developing 850hp coupled to an Allison XTG-411-5 automatic transmission, while the Mk 2 will not be made available for export, the Mk 1 will bear a Detroit Diesel 8V-71 TTA water-cooled, two-stroke V-8 diesel developing 650hp coupled to an Allison XTG-411-4 hydrokinetic automatic transmission.

The wheel system of the T-54/55 has been greatly improved by new torsion bars and hydraulic bump-stops on the first and last wheel stations. These improvements allow the Achzarit to comfortably bear the same rought terrain as the MBTs that it is designed to accompany.

Standard equipment for the vehicle includes a fire detection and suppression system and an NBC defense system. A hardened and sturdy computer is made accessable to the infantry men in the rear and 2 more service the commander and driver. These computers are linked and can be used to coordinate, report, and receive combat information to assisst with the complicated nature of vehicle organization. The gunner is provided with a mini-version of the computer that only functions as a FFI (Friend/Foe Identifier) to help prevent or eliminate friendly-fire incidents.

The Achzarit replaces the GIM-M113 (Greater Israeli Mod) in frontline battle conditions although the majority of the fleet of several hundred GIM-M113s built over time will not be sold or destroyed but simply used to armor vulnerable supply vehicle positions and as emergency reserves.

Like the M113 HVMS, the Achzarit is capable of bearing the Greater Israeli HVMS (Hyper Velocity Medium Support) 60mm gun, which uses a small turret, as a light support vehicle, although there is talk of using the Stryker 105mm cannon. The HVMS system uses high velocity KE (Kinetic Energy) projectiles to penetrate great deals of armour at a very good range.

Although some see the contemporaneous development of the Stryker and the Achzarit as odd and of debatable use, they are each intended for different roles and can fill the role of the other though likely not as well.
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The Maccabi Fighting Vehicle, The M60 Sabra tank, and the Merkava-family of MBTs are already being produced by Western Asian companies and several thousand of each are in the Western Asian motorpool. Also in the motorpool are a variety of APCs including the venerable and sturdy GIM-M113 and several old tanks that have been upgraded with modern technology.
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The Tavor family of rifles are now open for foreign sales and various ATGM systems are being independantly produced by GIMI.
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Western Asia has also been developing and testing new Less-lethal weaponry for several months and many of the initial problems have been smoothed out. These weapons include gas- or electric-powered guns that fire "paintball"-style rounds filled with chemical irritants, a directed microwave "Active Denial" system, and ultrasonic sound "guns." All three technologies are ready to be placed on the market but the WA government has been limiting the availability until all Greater Israeli Police Departments and SOCOM units have received at least a few samples of the technology for evaluation. GIPDs already use rubber bullets, beanbag rounds, and other, lower tech, Less Lethal Weapons.

Sound "Gun"
A researcher explained the system to us in this exclusive report:
"Indeed the gun stuns a person by concentrating high-intensity sounds right at or near them. This is effectively creating a localized shock wave that will not affect many other parts of the surroundings. As the ultrasound waves (2 beams, slightly different frequencies, HUGE intensity/amplitudes) encounter the non-linearity of the air they "split" into multiple frequencies. If you do it right, the top of one will match with the bottom of the other at the correct distance and your target will experience an...unique effect. Sure, it'll stun someone, possibly even knocking them unconscious or bursting their eardrums (if they're REALLY unlucky). But that is secondary. It won't kill someone unless they had a building aneurysm or some other medical issue that might be triggered by the shock.

It works in air but might not work in water as the properties of sound are quite different in water (sound travels faster so an entirely re-calibrated system would have to be devised with REALLY STRONG emitters). As for space, it won't work there either."

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Naval Systems Developments
As usual, Western Asia's naval business is booming although back orders have been piling up, causing a great deal of consternation among certain purchasers. New developments are expected to be announced sometime soon, including the final specs for the FTT and the Carrier line.

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Various Western Asian companies are working on Joint Development programs with GMC Military Arms, Ruhr, Sniper Country, Beth Gellert, Mega Tau and other groups on new and exciting products.
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This has been GINA's MilTech Desk reporting the latest developments, and to all a good night.
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More of Western Asia's technology is for sale at its military technology sale and trade department desk here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12970&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Western Asia is always open to joint development programs and ventures.

OOC: PLEASE NOTE: By reading the ideas contained within this thread you agree to not copy, steal, or otherwise reuse these ideas on NS unless they are already widely prevalent and common devices (M16s, basic such stuff). Any attempt to do so will be dealt with quickly and thoroughly. Thank you.

Western Asia

29-04-2003, 01:05

Bump....I need the attention.

Crimmond

29-04-2003, 01:11

The FB-22? I produce this also. *sees another "Sephirus demands meeting over fraud" thread* I had to pay a LOT of money over that plane.

Western Asia

29-04-2003, 01:47

I was at the thread where people were trying to buy/sell them and I asked to buy the FB-22 after advocating for the benefit of the people there that it was an actual AF concept craft and wasn't just the imagination of a PopSci writer (the writer wrote a similar article for Jane's).

As several people were selling it, I determined that it wasn't something that any single person had laid claim to.

BTW, why did you have to pay a lot of money for it? It isn't as though people haven't used them already. As far as my deployment, I wanted less than 30 of them.

Crimmond

29-04-2003, 02:08

Western Asia

29-04-2003, 04:10

But was there an original "owner" to the FB-22 concept in NS? It seems to have been Ardor (the first mention of the craft).

Oh, and by the way, you weren't infringing. He was using the wrong specs and passing the F-22 off as another craft. The FB-22 is NOT a variable geometry plane and has 2 internal bays and 2 side bays. The F-22 has a 20mm, not a 35mm gun, the angles of the wings aren't what make it stealthy (it's the angle of the leading and trailing edges), , and the specs for the engines are wrong. The planes have supercruise, but are not of the right design or form for hypersonic craft (at least mach 5, pref over mach 7). And since vectored thrust is 2d, what is "360 degree attack angle capability." It makes no sense whatsoever, and at the age that he was (5rl days so <20mil) I doubt that he could plan any aircraft, let alone ones with scramjets....)

Not to make an enemy of sephirus, but I think that godmoding is time-independant.

I also believe that you can't claim control on a device that is correctly described and titled for an incorrectly titled and described device (eg, like if I'd described the trimaran as having 2 or 4 hulls instead of 3 and then being angry when someone brought out the properly numbered 3-hull trimaran (redundant, I know).

I claim the patent to the trimaran (although I haven't enforced it on others who came not minutes, hours, or days but weeks after my design was correctly filed with the specifications on how it might be scaled up to any size naval vessel. Also, since I designed the fleet specs myself (weapons types, capabilities, survivability), it can't be claimed as a previous invention.

But that doesn't make the FB-22 have a variable-geometry wing and since he never even mentioned the F-22 or FB-22 his claim is dubious (others have put up pics of the F-22, the YF-23, and other advanced jets but described them as other craft, which at the great distance from reality that his specs give, applies. If you describe something else with a different name, armaments, et al then you can't claim that they ripped you off for using the specs of what they used the pic for). As it is, $300M is chump change for patent control on a $100M+ 21st century stealth fighter jet.

And since he was claiming the F-22 along with it, you might want to point him to the fact that they were being made in Jan.

Beth Gellert

29-04-2003, 04:59

ooc: I'm replying with little of importance to say, just because it's a better thread than most that get a good deal more attention. Folk who put in a bit of effort ought to be encouraged, 'tis more fun than arguing with Fox news' most hyperactive viewers.

ic: The Commonwealth of Beth Gellert follows Western Asia's military and scientific announcements with some interest since we purchased one of ther trimaran ships, a frigate which has since been christened CS Ood (or Hood) and made the fleet's flagship.
We're not really in a position to do further business at the moment, but hope one day to deal with this nation often.
We'd encourage friendly nations..with sane leadership.. to look into WA's talk of potential colaborative efforts.
(Our resources are for the forseeable future tied up in a joint aviation project with a neighbouring state.)

Keep up the good work.

Western Asia

29-04-2003, 07:22

We thank Beth Gellert for its support of our efforts. We are glad that you are satisfied with your purchase.

Western Asia

30-04-2003, 01:04

hmmm, mods...could you move this to the main NS forum?

Western Asia

03-05-2003, 12:47

Ok, CH-53s are now available for $25million/unit

The following is the write-up for my Tavors:

We would be glad to offer you our indigenously produced Tavor Assult Rifle (T.A.R. 21). It uses the NATO 5.56 round and is a very robust, accurate, and generally good weapon. The design is well-balanced and so easily used ambidextrously. The TAR-series can support a firing rate of 750-900 rpm.

The same form of rifle also supports several different versions, including a "commando"/compact version (CTAR-21), a tactical support sniping/sharp shooting (STAR-21), and a "micro" version (MTAR-21) for special missions and security.

The TAR-21 can accept the M203 20mm greanade launcher and a reflex scope (Meprolight M21) is integral with most versions (STAR-21 is outfitted with a Harris bipod and a Trijicon ACOG 4X32 day optic). The TAR-21 family accept silencers and a MILES adaptor is produced as well. The sighting system is designed to be useful in night-combat situations and can attach to 3rd Gen. NVDs.

The Tavor follows a bull-pup design but also accepts M16-type 30 round magazines. The frame/shell is made of a mix of high-quality, impact-resistant plastic composite, which cuts down on weight, allows accurate follow-on shots, and is insulatated so the gun does not heat up after prolonged firing. The top of the gun uses a Picatinny-type rail system.

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The rifles currently come in at about $750/unit, though such a mass order might go for $700/unit as foreign sales pick up. We are open to negotiations and questions.

An order of more than 20,000 will merit the lower price for the TAR-21s.

The price for the STAR-21 is somewhat higher than that of the TAR-21, about $870.

The CTAR-21 is going to be about $740

The MTAR will be slightly more expensive due to the complexity in manufacturing smaller parts of sufficient quality, so about $765/unit.

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{the weights refer to a full combat ready weight. This includes the weapon, a sling, a full 31 rounds M16 magazine and optical sight. In the STAR version the mentioned weight also includes the M1913 rail and the bipod.}
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Tavor Assult Rifle: TAR-21
Total Length: 72cm (28.8in)
Barrel: 45.25cm (18.1in)
Weight: 3.6kg (7.93lbs)
Standard Optics: Meprolight M21
Cost: $750/unit (large orders: $700/unit)

Sharpshooting Tavor Assault Rifle: STAR-21
Total Length: 72cm (28.8in)
Barrel: 48cm (19.2in)
Weight: 4.25kg (9.37lbs)
Standard Optics: Trijicon ACOG 4X32 day optic/
Cost: $870/unit

Commando Tavor Assault Rifle: CTAR-21
Total Length: 64cm (25.6in)
Barrel: 37.5cm (15in)
Weight: 3.5kg (7.71lbs)
Standard Optics: Meprolight M21
Cost: $740/unit

Micro Tavor Assault Rifle: MTAR-21
Total Length: 48cm (19.2in)
Barrel: 25cm (10in)
Weight: 3.2kg (7.05lbs)
Standard Optics: Meprolight M21
Cost: $765/unit

M203 adapted for TAR-21
--cannot fit other models--
Total Length: 3.8cm
Width: 8.4cm
Weight: 1.360kg (3lbs, bringing TAR-21/M203 to 4.96kg)
Bore diameter: 40mm
Unit Cost: $600 (with Adaptor)

RANGES:
Maximum effective range:
Area target: 1148.35 feet (350 meters)
Point target: 492.15 feet (150 meters)
Maximum range: 1312.4 feet (400 meters)

Minimum safe range:
Training: 426.53 feet (130 meters)
Combat: 101.71 feet (31 meters)

OOC: Thanks to GlobalSecurity, Israeli_weapons, and isayeret for specs.

Larkinia

04-05-2003, 02:17

Western Asia

07-05-2003, 06:06

*Secure line to Western Asia leadership*

We would like to alter our previous order to you if you're still amenible to that. We would like to increase our order to 30,000 Tavor Assault Rifles if that's possible.

*Close line*

We are happy to provide this for you.

30,000X $660/unit= $19.8 million

Glad to do business with you.

OOC: I grandfathered you in under the old price, but now the price is slightly higher for later purchases. I have built in an option into the sale that will allow you to buy up to 50,000 more of these weapons, non-resaleable, at the old price.

UPDATED SPECS + INFO

Western Asia

10-05-2003, 08:56

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A good while ago, Western Asia's military produced the MTHEL ABM system. But even today, very little is known about this ellusive weapons system that forms a major part of the Western Asian Naval Fleet(WANF)'s Force Protection- Theater Ballistic Missile Defense (FP-TBMD) system.

An important part of the MTHEL system is the command and control of the lasers themselves.

A multiple-target tactical tracking and engagement system is the heart of the computer. Automated tracking and targeting allow operators to see "one step ahead" to the next incoming missile, so that when the MTHEL system has destroyed the first missile it will be pre-programmed to target the next without a moment's hesitation.

The MTHEL (Mobile Tactical High Energy Laser) is a proven defense against missiles, satellites (when mounted to the plane), katyushka rockets and even artillery shells. The system has been able to handle multiple katyushka rockets in salvos and singly. The system can be used against aircraft though it hasn't been done yet (for lack of opportunity, not ability).

The MTHEL system is of course another part of the Ballistic Missile Defense System (BMDS) that protects Greater Israel from attack. Other famous parts of this system include the ArrowI & II ATBM system; the Green Pine Radar (long range; the Regional Ballistic Missile Location, Tracking, and Engagement System (RBMLTES, "Reb-malts")/ Hazelnut Tree Launch Control system; the Citron Tree battle management center.

The MTHEL system has been used in combat against GDODAD air forces during the Arani conflict and performed extremely well.

EDIT: The MTHEL II system is now being retrofitted onto Western Asian ships. It is also now being included on all SOCS-t2, SBV, and Western Asian Carriers as standard equipment. MTHEL I systems now sold are of the MTHEL Ib version, with slightly improved specs.

SHIP-BASED SYSTEM (For WA ships, but can be fitted on others for $3M more):
A MTHEL system comes in at about $25M/unit for the export version (full, armed system with control suite built in). Each unit can track 8 (MTHEL II can track 24, upgraded C&C has boosted performance) targets simultaneously and should be able to engage all 8 in short order (12 for the MTHEL II) if they are subsonic or trans-sonic. 3-5 if the incoming are supersonic (5-7 with MTHEL II). The systems can be linked through a special channel on the Fleet Communication and Command System (FCCS), allowing them to each engage separate targets while firing Phalanx and small Anti-missile missiles against other targets while under operator control. Each station requires 3 dedicated (specially trained) control personnel (2 operator/coordinators and 1 officer) for operations and 2 technicians/mechanics to maintain the system. When coordinating other fleet defense systems, 2 other operators are required to coordinate and control other systems.

LAND-BASED SYSTEM:
--Mobile--
Similar price for the MTHEL source and control systems, but as they need to be on trucks in this situation and need their own generator, will run about $65-70M for a mobile system based on a heavily modified M872A4 Semi-trailer.

--Stationary--
A stationary system (STHEL) would use 3 Cargo containers and consist of 2 STHEL arrays (2 shooters) and will cost about $82M.

More MTHEL specs/info:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=825631#825631
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10-05-2003, 08:59

Can i have 1 SHIP-BASED SYSTEM (For WA ships, but can be fitted on others for $3M more):
A MTHEL system comes in at about $25M/unit for the export version (full, armed system with control suite built in)
Money wired
$25,000,000

10-05-2003, 09:17

It's Diamond class the specs are.

length: 600 Feet
Beam: 65 feet.
Powerplant: On MAC nuclear reactor producing 100,000 HP.
Displacement: 10,200 tons.
Speed: 35 plus knots
Weapons capibilities: Can hold 15 Tomahawks and launch 4 at a time or 25 MCM and 4 at a time.AA Flak cannons. 6 torpedos can be carried and 2 launched at a time.
Will pay u for labour to fit the system on.

Western Asia

10-05-2003, 09:25

OOC: I posted this under the wrong title so this is what's being responded to in the message before it.
Can i have 1 SHIP-BASED SYSTEM (For WA ships, but can be fitted on others for $3M more):
A MTHEL system comes in at about $25M/unit for the export version (full, armed system with control suite built in)
Money wired
$25,000,000

Do you have a ship for it to be fit onto? We need the specs so that we can tell you what modifications our engineers might need to make to the ship.

We will need to work on your ship for at least a 3 months (NS time, ~2rl Days) to fit the system in.

Some labor is extra.

Western Asia

10-05-2003, 09:36

OK, the system needs an 8X8X12 (wXhXl) space below decks and a direct connection to the ships power supply. Above decks (not necessarily in the same location) we need a 5X5X6 (wXlXh) area with a relatively unobstructed view of the area in 360° along the horizon (optimal, not necessary). An additional safety zone of 7ft around the system's pedestal is strongly encouraged. The greater the view the more directions the MTHEL system can act in.

There is a 5° automatic spacing around the vessel's superstructure as an integral safety precaution in the software programming.

Also on board needs to be a tactical tracking system like the AEGIS system, though almost any similar system will do. The tactical radar must have a direct feed into the system.

I need to know about the availability of such space.

Our shipyard informs us that the cost could vary from $4-8M depending on the need to move bulkheads, though it sounds like you should have enough room so that that is not necessary. A reminder: the power used by the system is for the computers and the primary control of the laser but the beam is derived from chemical components so while the power is essential for its operation, it is not the only factor.

Western Asia

10-05-2003, 21:55

----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
5/10/2003 13:04 LST
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Aerospace and Air Systems Developments

Reports have been flowing from residents near WA Airbases about a mysterious craft that is only emerging at dusk and which goes through a series on maneuvers over the ocean. Reports of sonic booms have also been associated with flights of this craft.

It is further reported that several high-level WAAF (airforce) and WAN (navy) officials have visited sealed hangars under tight security.

It is believed by some analysts that this craft is somehow related to the one described in a previous report that mentioned a new fighter-bomber under development.

Reference Article Clipping
Ref. 34.568.729 sub. sec. 2.347

Industry insiders have been talking about some mysterious variable-wing Fighter-bomber with high supersonic abilites. Apparently, the GIAI Midnight Special Projects Division (Midnight SPD) is behind this new design, nick-named the "Switchblade." A combination of national security issues and a lack of information means that we are not or cannot provide any more information at this time.

The title of Switchblade has been confirmed by officials as a working title for the X-49.

It is now being reported that the pivot points of those wings are actually in the rear of the craft. Additionally, the craft is without upright stabilizers but instead depends on either angled stabilizers that replace both the horizontal and vertical stabilizers or horizontal stabilizers with specialized control surfaces. The following patent was found that outlines the craft's capabilities and even provides an image of the vehicle in the PDF doc section.

Patent File (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,984,231.WKU.&OS=PN/5,984,231&RS=PN/5,984,231)

Analysts suggest that the specific craft, made practicable only through the development of fly-by-wire systems, will be able to have 3 main positions for the wings, with slight variations being made to acheive special effects at each level.

At the fully-closed position, the "Switchblade" is a supersonic jet that can maintain "supercruise" to move into or out of combat zones quickly. It is believed that the top speed is somewhere around Mach 3.

At the fully-opened position, the Switchblade is a high-accuracy bomber that can glide smoothly and accurately over specific target zones.

At the intermediate position, the Switchblade acts much like the X-29 (it is believed that the VFC (Vortex Flow Control) system from that craft may also be included in the Switchblade) as a highly maneuverable craft for A2A battles.

Whatever the reality of this project, our analysts are excited and waiting for its unveiling as most classified craft aren't patented until shortly before their public announcement.

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In other news, GI-NASA and GIAI reps are negotiating for the relocation of the Foe Hammerian company known as Olsen Aerospace onto their lands as it develops space-based ABM systems. Officials are in negotiations with the Council that now controls much of FH foreign policy. Link (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26176&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0).

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((OOC: This thing and its systems are not deployed or widely known so I'm patenting it now (I forgot to do so before). All of the tech developments mentioned above (within this post and the others on this thread) that are in a similar state or that are the first of their kind on NS are similarly claimed as sole right to produce and market.))

Western Asia

11-05-2003, 04:41

OOC: Seriously, is noone interested?

Teritora

11-05-2003, 05:04

Occ. I am surpised there isn't any intrested Teritora is not intrested only because it producing the EAA-07X "Gyrfalcon" a Stratospheric figher capible of reaching low earth orbit and The TSB.1 as it is now offical called,a bomber build to drop bombs from low earth orbit.

Western Asia

14-05-2003, 10:26

Upcoming:
-- UAV/UCAV/UCAR specs and prices (possibly to be sold in trimaran thread).
-- New ship CIWS, improved targeting, engagement capabilities against land, sea, and low-air (missile) targets ---DONE---
-- New Specs for Less Lethal Weapons systems, release of new types
-- New Blackhawk model (upgraded baseline vehicle)
-- New Missile boat (for sale in trimaran thread)
-- New Missiles (AAM, SSM, SAM, ASM, etc.)
-- Specs for the Maccabi Fighting Vehicle---delayed---
-- Specs for the Merkava ---DONE---
-- Specs for the Sabra ---DONE---
-- Specs/design for attack helicopters---DONE---
-- Specs + prices for Carrier line---COMING---
-- Specs + prices for FTT and variants---COMING---
-- Roll-out of Pelican---COMING---
-- Specs of Switchblade
-- Specs of other manned aircraft
-- Product outline for Beth Gellert/Western Asian/Inaunan cooperative STOVL/VTOL development
-- Specs and outline for new small arms ---Need Negev---
-- Specs and outline for artillery systems
-- Specs and outline for ATGMs and shoulder-mounted rockets/missiles
-- Heavy Lift Satellite Launch Rockets---DONE---
-- Improved satellite (multispectral)---DONE---

And much, much more! ( :D )

Larkinia

14-05-2003, 10:53

Beth Gellert

14-05-2003, 11:53

We are pleased to announce continued growth in The Commonwealth's national finances, as Beth Gellert reaches its highest economic ranking to date (strong, up from good, having imploded just months ago), and resultant investment in the aerospace sector, ahead of the mentioned co-operative project.

Aside from that, we wonder if WA markets (or is planning to market) any man-portable SAM units; Stinger sorts and what-not, as we would be interested in purchasing a quantity of such.

(ooc. I wouldn't mind any advice on how many such units a nation of over a hundred million, with a growing economy, and defence spending usually a little behind Israel's, on a per-capita basis, could be expected to field. Do I want dozens, hundreds, or thousands?)

Western Asia

14-05-2003, 23:59

We would like to activate the option you gave to order 50,000 Tavor Assault Rifles at the price of $660 per unit for a total of $33 million. We are awaiting to wire you the money with confirmation of your acceptance of our order.

OOC: I'm very interested in the "Switchblade", but currently I'm not certain we have it in the budget to buy many of them. (We have a very small air force right now) And as soon as you have those Blackhawks ready to go... 8)

The order for 50,000 TAR-21s is confirmed as stated. 800 M203 grenade launchers with mounts for the TARs are included as a gift to a good customer.

OOC: Yeah, the Switchblade is very nice but I still have a lot of specs to figure out (since those aren't very public knowledge). I also need to decide whether or not I'm going to sell it as it is so powerful a weapon that it would be overwhelming against my own forces....I'll have to see what it costs and how many my forces could support. But I will keep an open mind...

We already have all of the H-60 line of Blackhawks ready to go on the Trimaran thread but the improved version will be a bit more expensive with the new capabilities. You can wait if you want but it might take me a bit...

Western Asia

16-05-2003, 00:22

Further upcoming events/announcements:
-- Specs and future sales info for the Shore Bombardment Vessel (SBV), a heavily-armored Trimaran Warship longer than any other direct-attach ship and with larger, more powerful weaponry. ---DONE---almost....
-- Announcement of completion of first in higher-capacity satellite launch rockets. Will have from 2-7 (later 13) tons of lift capacity dependant upon public demand and measured needs. Will follow a modular system that allows the addition of boosters and launch stages to meet specific mission specs
-- New Armored cars from Greater Israeli Autos (GIA, Inc) for the comfortable transportation and defense of VIPs
-- New CIWS for ships, to be included on the SBV, capable of AAir, AMissile, AShip, and AShore attack
-- Introduction for public sale of the Maccabi Infantry Fighting Vehicle (MIFV) original model as they are phased out in favor of a newer version (and to partially finance the shift-over).

Western Asia

20-05-2003, 01:58

New Ships' Specs (IN PROGRESS)
NOTE: Other designs and updates to current designs may be included in this post at a later date.

Initial Specs for the Shore Bombardment Vessel (SBV)
(IN PROGRESS--WILL BE UPDATED IN THIS POST)

Length- 640 ft (will probably change)
Top Speed (dashing)- 35+ knots (unofficially at or above 40kts)
Crew- 245 enlisted, 35 officers

Armoring and Protection:
- 8in of Rolled Homogenous-type armor;
- 5in of Cobham-like armor (Soon to be given a name);
- 3in steel plates on the interior portion of the outriggers (to provide a 3rd layer of armoring for the essential ship sustems in the midsection and rear of the ship);
- Heavy metal linked "chainmail" to protect against HE and Shaped-charge projectiles (detonated before target);
- The full point missile defense system involving the Barak, Sea Sparrow, and other such missiles;
- Millenium Guns.

Armament
--Defensive/Mixed Use--
4-6, Millenium Guns;
4, Octuplet Sea Sparrow or equivalent launchers (32 missiles);
up to 4, Quad Harpoon launchers (up to 16 missiles);
1, MTHEL ABM system.

--Offensive--
2-4, 16in guns;
2-6, 155mm guns;
up to 4, 5in guns;
4-18, smaller deck guns (7.62, .50cal, etc);
2-4, MLRSs;
32, VLS tubes loaded with Tactical Tomahawks (Half cost of normal at 700,000 but with a range greater than 3/4 of its conventional cousin).

Suggestions are welcome. The final vessel will cost probably over a billion but will have a great battle survivability and so should be able to act in the projected role of close ground support even with enemy ships, planes, and missiles.
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Carrier Designs/Planning
My plans are the following:

--A 'Light' VTOL/Amphibious strike carrier (Also known as the SBSV (Shore Bombardment Support Vessel) with the following capacity:
16-28 Helicopters or VTOL planes with the ability to launch 6 Helis at once (6 take-off/landing places and one or two elevators to storage). This might also have space for an LCAC, will be along the guidelines of a LHD but reformed to provide less of a radar signature, and of course bearing the Trimaran design for speed and stability. Meant for very close-to-shore/littoral combat duties, in coordination with the SBV (Shore Bombardment Vessel), to support the landing and combat of Marines.

--A 'Heavy' VTOL/Amphibious strike carrier with the following capacity:
36-40 Helicopters or VTOL planes with the ability to launch 8-10 helis at once (8-10 take-off/landing places and one or two elevators to storage).

--A 'Light' Aircraft Carrier with the following capacity:
20-35 conventional, manned planes
10-20 UCAVs (stored and assembled for use)
2-4 Helis

Would have 3 elevators and a stealthy design. Uses virtual and telepresence technology to eliminate the large "island" on the deck of the carrier, as with the other designs, and to allow for better command and control of crew. Raised "radar shields" will prevent the activity on the ship's deck from reflecting radar signals towards receiver stations. Has 1 ramped launch lane (for VSTOL and high-lift aircraft) and 2 "standard" launch lanes (for older planes and non-combat planes).

--A 'Standard' Carrier along the lines of the Nimitz class of vessels, though modified, as other vessels, to the Trimaran and stealthy designs. Will possibly be split to involve one carrier with about 50 planes as the Standard and the Nimitz's 70-some as a Heavy.

A class of "superlight" carriers is considered for as few as 6 aircraft and a crew of 40 sailors and technicians.

Beth Gellert

20-05-2003, 02:38

The Commonwealth with some hesitation is announcing a freezing of preliminary research into SVTOL type aircraft in the light of significant and unexpected developments (we may be moving, and may become land-locked..you perhaps see our naval-aviation reservations).
If this does become the case, Beth Gellert will no doubt miss much of the business that may otherwise be done with the likes of Western Asia, and while nothing has been confirmed so far, this is not a decision that will be taken lightly.

If The Commonwealth does become land-locked (and official announcements will be made if and when any significant progress occurs), we intend to hand over our naval assets to closely allied states, and wish to be sure that WA has no objections, as two of their trimaran would be involved (we do not intend to make a profit, and do mean to make known from where the vessels originate).

In a few days it shall be known whether this message is to be rescinded.
Thank you.

Chief Consul Chivo.

Western Asia

20-05-2003, 02:52

Western Asia

21-05-2003, 04:05

*ahem*

The Wasteland Areas

24-05-2003, 11:15

The confederate army of TWA would like to purchase 40,000 TAR-21s for use in its infantry forces.

How much would that cost?

-CIC Hardin, TWA

24-05-2003, 18:14

The ROM woud wish to buy 800,000 standard tavor rifles for 528,000,000SMUs. Please confirm

24-05-2003, 19:29

I would like to buy the following:

20,000 TAR-21's
10,000 CTAR-21's
5,000 STAR-21's
5,000 MTAR-21's

thankyou

Western Asia

24-05-2003, 19:56

The confederate army of TWA would like to purchase 40,000 TAR-21s for use in its infantry forces.

How much would that cost?

-CIC Hardin, TWA

TAR-21s: 40,000@$680/unit= $27.2 Million USD.

Total, with S&H and other charges, is: $27.989 Million USD.

Please confirm. C-130s or Trimaran Fast Transporters will bring the shipment upon approval.

The ROM woud wish to buy 800,000 standard tavor rifles for 528,000,000SMUs. Please confirm

TAR-21s: 800,000@$680/unit= $544 Million USD.

Total, with S&H and other charges, is: $556 Million USD.

Please confirm. C-130s or Trimaran Fast Transporters will bring the shipment upon approval.

I would like to buy the following:

20,000 TAR-21's
10,000 CTAR-21's
5,000 STAR-21's
5,000 MTAR-21's

thankyou

TAR-21s: 20,000@$680/unit= $13.6 Million USD.
CTAR-21s: 10,000@$740/unit= $7.4 Million USD.
STAR-21s: 5,000@$870/unit= $4.35 Million USD.
MTAR-21s: 5,000@$765/unit= $3.825 Million USD.

Total, with S&H and other charges, is: $30million USD.

Please confirm. C-130s or Trimaran Fast Transporters will bring the shipment upon approval.

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NOTE: some S&H and other charges may apply to purchases. The highest charges generally waver at about 2.9%.

24-05-2003, 20:09

The ROM woud wish to buy 800,000 standard tavor rifles for 528,000,000SMUs. Please confirm

TAR-21s: 800,000@$680/unit= $544 Million USD.

Total, with S&H and other charges, is: $556 Million USD.

Please confirm. C-130s or Trimaran Fast Transporters will bring the shipment upon approval.

The ROM will pay $544 Million and pick up the rifles ourselves. Please confirm

24-05-2003, 20:34

Western Asia

24-05-2003, 22:10

I gotta call BS on the heavy lift cargo plane. For example each engine on the 777 produces about 78,400 horsepower, about 196,000 lbs total thrust. To move that big ass plane of your's you'd need alot more then 4 engines, also I think you were looking for turboFAN not turboPROP. And unless you're really playing FAR-Future-Tech, The average high-end turbroprop gives about 3,133 shp.

OOC: Read closer...they're massive engines with equally massive props...and it is turboprop. Please read carefully, there are 8, counterrotating props with a LARGE diameter.

I am playing no more than 2 decades into the future and more often in current time.

In RL, it is spec'd out for use, so I'll trust the weapons engineers of Boeing to know the lift capacity of aircraft engines over your personal opinion. I also might point out to you my size and general advanced status as a nation on NS, this is well within my capacity to build, fly, and maintain.

This is a well-researched vehicle. Next time try to actually research the object instead of other objects of a different class.

Sites for you to read:
http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/archive/2002/september/i_pw.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2254315.stm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/ultra.htm
http://foxxaero.homestead.com/indrad_043.html
http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/sited/story/html/105606
http://www.aerotechnews.com/starc/2002/110802/cargo_plane.html

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://users.skynet.be/sky35213/pelican.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3DPelican%2Btransporter%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8
http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/wig.htm

24-05-2003, 22:34

OOC: Read closer...they're massive engines with equally massive props...and it is turboprop. Please read carefully, there are 8, counterrotating props with a LARGE diameter.

I am playing no more than 2 decades into the future and more often in current time.

In RL, it is spec'd out for use, so I'll trust the weapons engineers of Boeing to know the lift capacity of aircraft engines over your personal opinion. I also might point out to you my size and general advanced status as a nation on NS, this is well within my capacity to build, fly, and maintain.

This is a well-researched vehicle. Next time try to actually research the object instead of other objects of a different class.

Sites for you to read:
http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/archive/2002/september/i_pw.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2254315.stm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/ultra.htm
http://foxxaero.homestead.com/indrad_043.html
http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/sited/story/html/105606
http://www.aerotechnews.com/starc/2002/110802/cargo_plane.html

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://users.skynet.be/sky35213/pelican.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3DPelican%2Btransporter%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8
http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/wig.htm

Yea it's a 'massive' engine but it still doesn't put out enough HP esp as a prop plane. THe fastest propelled planes the Tu-95 (http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=43991&Reg=1) had 4 Turboprops with counter-rotating blades that put out a combind HP of about 60,000 HP. It's weight was only 94,400 kg though. Your plane, at almost 14,545,454.55 kg is about 154 time heavier UNLOADED. So your plane, although it's 154 times heavier only has ~5 1/3 times the HP. Reasonable? I DONT THINK SO.

Western Asia

24-05-2003, 22:41

imported_Ell

25-05-2003, 04:36

Ell will purchase 40 MHTELs. Please deliver them to Auckland. The money is now transferring *Transaction complete*

25-05-2003, 04:50

Please confirm...

Western Asia

25-05-2003, 07:18

Please confirm...

Confirmed, a 1% charge still applies. The rifles will be ready to load at Tel Aviv International in 2 weeks. The airtraffic controllers have programmed your arrival into their system.

The cargo will be waiting in hangar 15C. For your P.U.

Western Asia

25-05-2003, 07:20

Ell will purchase 40 MHTELs. Please deliver them to Auckland. The money is now transferring *Transaction complete*

Which form would you want?

The Land MTHEL, the Sea MTHEL, or the STHEL?

imported_Ell

25-05-2003, 09:49

Ell will purchase 40 MHTELs. Please deliver them to Auckland. The money is now transferring *Transaction complete*

Which form would you want?

The Land MTHEL, the Sea MTHEL, or the STHEL?

STHEL

Western Asia

25-05-2003, 10:44

Ell will purchase 40 MHTELs. Please deliver them to Auckland. The money is now transferring *Transaction complete*

Which form would you want?

The Land MTHEL, the Sea MTHEL, or the STHEL?

STHEL

A stationary system (STHEL) would use 3 Cargo containers and consist of 2 STHEL arrays (2 shooters) and will cost about $82M.

Ok, so 40 STHELs @ $82/station is...$3.28 billion USD. The shipment cost is going to be 20 mil, so the total is $3.3Bn USD.

A large Cargo Transporter will bear the system to you. Each STHEL station takes up 4 standard Cargo containers and technicians will arrive (aboard a luxurious Reploid Productions 100-model jet) to instruct your personnel on the construction, operation, and maintenance of the systems provided.

imported_Ell

25-05-2003, 10:50

For reference, how much does each STHEL weigh?

The Wasteland Areas

25-05-2003, 13:02

TAR-21s: 40,000@$680/unit= $27.2 Million USD.

Total, with S&H and other charges, is: $27.989 Million USD.

Thank you Western Asia.
Order confirmed, US$ 27,989,000 has been wired to you.
Please deliver the weapons to Wustegrenshaaven harbor with your Trimaran Fast Transporters. You will be escorted upon entrance of WA waters by two PT-11000s.

Western Asia

26-05-2003, 01:44

For reference, how much does each STHEL weigh?

The 3 cargo containers with computers and 2 stations weigh in at between 90 and 100 tons. Radar arrays and land anchorings are not factored in.

26-05-2003, 03:09

Western Asia

26-05-2003, 03:30

26-05-2003, 08:36

Yes that sounds good the money has been wired please send as fast as you can thankyou

02-06-2003, 12:11

Great Progress has been made in the development of the Western Asian "Scorpion" Future Individual Combat System (FICS)....A press conference is scheduled later this week where developments should be announced for the public.

03-06-2003, 03:16

----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>>Tech Profiles: The "Scorpion" Future Individual combat System System<<<<<

6/2/2003 18:47 LST
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The future of Infantry Warfare was revealed today by engineers and representatives from the Greater Israel Military Industries (GISE symbol: IMI).

The Future Individual Combat System (FICS), which is also known as the "Scorpion Combat Suit," is the result of a concerted effort by the military of Western Asia to improve the combat survivability of soldiers beyond what can be gained through rigorous physical and mental training.

The System employs several technology "modules" that will be able to be upgraded as improvements come along. These systems cover many parts of three important areas of modern combat: Combat Communication/Command, Combat Action Ability Enhancement, Health and Vital Systems Monitoring.

Combat Command/Communication
--The Small Unit Communications/Command Intranet (SUCCI)
--The Combined Combat Coordination System (C3S)
--An Audio/Visual Information Relay System (AVIRS)

Combat Action Ability Enhancement
--The Friend/Foe Identification System (FFIS)
--The Low/Reduced Visibility Vision Enhancement System (LRVVES)
--The Combat Operations Heads-up Display (COHUD)
--The Target Acquisition/Engagement System (TAES)

Health and Vital Systems Monitoring
--The Environmental/Biological Control and Monitoring System (E/BCMS)
--The Immediate Medical Response System (IMRS)

Abilites:
- coordinate fire even against targets not seen directly by the shooter
- control UAVs/UCAVs/UCARs and RO/ALVs (Remotely Operated/Autonomous Land vehicles
- Increase situational awareness by HUD’s ability to show information such as maps, locations, and even target ranges
- survive harsh conditions
- control: Manual input on forearm-based pad, possibly voice-activated
- Secure communications
- control over band use (allowing varying connection to fellow members of the squad, platoon, or even company and air support)

System: 50-60lbs, mostly evenly distributed over the body. (versus up to 120lbs of today’s gear.

Even more exotic eFabrics are also being developed for the system, which is set to begin initial deployment in 5 years time.
-- One, known as MyoFlex, mimics the action of human muscles could allow soldiers to bear all of the 50-60lbs of the normal combat gear in addition to other gear without a great deal of additional effort.
-- Another part of the suit could allow it to open and close pores to allow the suit to "breathe" in certain conditions while still protecting the soldier from chemical and biological agents.
-- Also in research is something known as "TexCast," which is a type of fabric that could form casts about broken or injured areas of the soldier’s body.
-- It is even rumored that the suit could be outfitted with a 3rd generation of the WA "Smart Shell" technology.

The limited-run prototype suit (10 produced) cost the military almost $1.4 million USD to build but the final unit cost is expected to run at about $4,400 in active deployment.

OOC: This is just a general outline, I will explain each of the systems and more of the suit capabilities later.

Western Asia

09-06-2003, 19:33

----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>>Tech Profiles: The "Raven" Aerial Combat Platform<<<<<

6/8/2003 23:40 LST
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The Aerial Combat Platform (ACP-1; AKA "Raven," "Sentinel."), is a large concept craft that is intended to be an innovation and the symbol of a revolution in Close Support Aircraft design. The ACP-1 would be a possible replacement for the well-renowned and sometimes well-feared A/O-10 "Warthog," though the representatives of GIAI who spoke to us insist that it is still only a concept and that it would probably be used in an overlapping but mostly different role--more of a compliment to the "Warthog" and an addition to the Warthog's class of aircraft than a replacement. The engineers are calling this new platform the "Raven," due to its current dark color and the planned "gliding" flight.

The ACP-1 would be an addition to the field of aircraft known as "VTOL" craft. While the Harrier and JSF are both claimed to be VTOL (Vertical Take-Off and Landing), the only true VTOL craft are helicopters and a few prototype "Hover platforms," since Airplane-style craft often still are only STOVL (Short Take-Off, Vertical Landing) if they are to have any significant range or weapons capacity (more on these factors later). The ACP-1 is, admittedly, based on an expected improvement in current engines that will allow its practical use, but the truth remains that the craft is a viable platform, or so the GIAI reps would have us believe.

While helicopters are very good ASA, they have essential limitations in many areas. The main areas for improvement are the following:

****-- Limited forward velocity (vs. Planes)
Previous attempts to resolve this issue have included the Dragonfly UAV/UCAV and improved engines systems.

****-- Limited Range (vs. Planes, Ships)
Again the Dragonfly was an attempt to alleviate these issues, but the Dragonfly remains in development.

****-- Limited Weapons Capacity (vs. Planes, Tanks, Ships)
This issue is helped by advances in engine power and redesigned airframes, but the general rule of VTOL flight is that weapons will be limited by size of engine and engines can only get so large. The ACP-1 will seek to eliminate this issue through improved design and weapons platforms.

****-- Vulnerability to (Small Arms) Fire (vs. Aircraft, Tanks, Ships)
The Achilles' Heel of modern VTOL craft is the small gun and RPG.

The limitations of helicopter flight were made startlingly clear in the 1993 "Blackhawk Down" incident in Mogadishu, Somalia as well as in Iraq during the 2nd Gulf War, where an ill-planned helicopter strike was aborted when a combination of AA guns and small-arms fire--at least one helicopter was lost from damages (and later displayed on TV as having been taken down by the fire of a single farmer alone, which is only half-true as the craft was damaged previously and could not take the added fire) and many others were seriously damaged.*

Part of the vulnerability lies in the engine and control design. Helicopters depend on their rotors to maintain flight. These rotors are strong enough to stand some impacts and constant use, but they are not well constructed to deal with shrapnel, consistant fire, or large explosions. Helicopter flight is also heavily dependant upon the tail rotor. Without the tail, a helicopter will just rotate in circles-making it hard to control flight and impossible to control forward motion (without orientation, forward motion is not a clear term). This matter also makes the piloting of helicopters very difficult--more so than for even advanced jets, according to reports.

The ACP-1 is meant to eliminate those problems by adopting a Vehicle Control Interface that is much more similar to that of an airplane. The ACP-1 is also intended to be a technology demonstrator platform for Resiliant Aircraft Control Systems (RACS) that will maintain aircraft stability and control in spite of widespread damage to the craft by redundant and "self-healing" (rerouting) system relays, information transmission systems, computers, and programs.

At the very least, it is believed that the ACP-1 design could lead to the development of a sort of "dropship" that could rapidly unload a large contingent of soldiers (up to a platoon!) very rapidly or possibly "drop" in some heavier weapons such as tanks for use by ground forces.

Whatever the ACP-1 ends up as, it is sure to be a fascinating vehicle for the future.

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*******Some specs for the ACP-1
**Crew: 1 (pilot might be removed in later some craft or given a general role in flying and advanced weapons (missiles/rockets) while the AI maintains other weapons).

**Armament: Several gun stations throughout the ship…several controlled by pilot with a "Seek and Destroy" capability added by the use of AI from other GIAI craft that would allow the craft to mount almost half a dozen or more machineguns. The types of guns employed would range from LMGs such as a modified Negev to the rotary barrel guns such as the GAU-2 through the GAU-8, the largest of such guns.

The craft might also bear 7.25in rockets (Hydra 70s) launched from pods on the craft, Hellfire missiles in racks, AA missiles for defense against other aircraft, and other weapons.

**Armoring/Protection: The ACP-1 will be heavily armored with tank-like armor and will be build up to at least the survivability of an A/O-10. Some flare weapons and defensive AA weapons will improve survivability.

**Size: Larger than many current flight vehicles, final size not set (UPDATE: See update notes for size of test platform)

**Engine/Power: Enough to bear some serious extra weight, unknown actual (will vary in by purpose of model). Will likely be ducted jets, with 6 to a craft (2 larger along the centerline, with 4 set on either 1 or two "arms"), with up to 8 for heavier models.

**Range: Comparable to A-10 or other airplanes (goal)

OOC:
* -- Although the damages were also related to problems involving tactics as was mentioned by some analysts, who pointed out that pilots of Apaches are trained to fly close to the ground while striking at targets...which assumes that friendly forces will be underneath to ward off ground attacks on the helis. It was also pointed out that during "wargames" the helicopter pilots were often not warned against ground fire as the "OpFor" only used blanks against the helicopters--which made the experience less-real for the helicopters that were only flying a (fatally) short distance above the guns.

*****Note: these are basic specs for the craft, which will be developed further into a practical war-fighting machine. The basis and eventual design are moving towards that of the "Aerial Hunter-Killer" (AHK) from the Terminator series of movies, comics, and books.

By reading the above post you agree to the terms of the following. This craft (as a derivative of the AHK and following that design pattern) is being put into play on NS as a GIAI design and, as none have made it previously, it is an exclusive product of GIAI unless the design or concept has been sold by me to some other nation. This is an NS patent and remains protected.

*****UPDATE:
The cost of the initial 3 test platforms will be a combined cost of $453 million dollars, in the $1.2 billion dollar development program. The final adjusted unit cost is expected to be in the range of $40-60 million dollars for the very basic, 1st generation models.

The testbed will be 40 feet long, 34 feet wide, and about 16 feet tall. The initial altitude is expected to be no more than 100 feet (for safety precautions) and the top speed will be automatically limited to 240mph. There will be no armaments on the testbed, although simulated weapons pods (weighted MILES) will be used to test combat maneuverability.

Western Asia

10-06-2003, 06:24

----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>>Tech Profiles: SHIPON Multi Purpose Personal Assault Weapons System<<<<<

6/9/2003 21:20 LST
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What is the SHIPON?

Seeking a middle ground between the cheap, but low-powered personnel-served Light Anti-Tank Rockets (LARS, like the M-72 LAW and infamous RPG-7), and expensive dedicated-personnel ATGMs, such as the TOW, Greater Israeli Military Industries' Rocket Systems Division (RSD) developed the SHIPON, a shoulder-launched infantry weapon with great power.

It gives great power yet with great flexability--the weapon can be used by a single infantryman, but it has the ability to defeat all modern (21st century) Main Battle Tanks, including those using ERA. The flexability comes with the ability to use the system not just against tanks, but as an anti-fortification, anti-vehicle, or anti-personnel weapon as well.

Although it has similar armor/barrier penetration abilities in comparison to 2nd and 3rd generation ATGMs, it is still very cost-effective and only requires a single soldier to carry and operate the system. The SHIPON follows a simple and user-friendly design coupled with an advanced Fire Control System (FCS). The FCS uses a unique, real-time environmental management system, which measures the down-range cross-winds. This allows the system to automatically adjust for the conditions of the launcher. The SHIPON also features other functions such as a range-finder, automatic compensation for launcher inclination, moving target engagement capability, automatic cross-hair repositioning and other advanced features. Best of all, the entire processing time for the system to calculate and set the gunner's aiming point is less than a second!

The advanced targeting, along with a dual stage propulsion system, allows the operator to engage targets as far as 600meters away, with at least a 50% hit probability, with a maximum range of about 1000m! Another benefit of the system is its "soft-launch" capability, which allows the system to be utilized from within closed and confined spaces with minimal danger to the operator and bystanders.

Added to the flexability is the fact that the entire SHIPON system is only 1 meter long and weighs only 9kg! And the FCS can be re-used by simply replacing the used disposable rocket canister with a new one, and the system is very cheap as it is.

Why is it better?

Technological Improvements Over Conventional Infantry Weapons:

Tandem warhead*
Automatic advanced fire control:
******** Range finder*
******** Cross-wind measurement along trajectory to target*
******** Temperature measurement*
******** Inclination*

Range - Up to 600 m (at 50% hit probability)
Armor Penetration - 800 mm armored steel shielded by ERA (Explosive Reactive Armor)
Structure - Reusable FCS and Firing Mechanism Disposable Canister
Fire Control - LRF, Cross-wind, Inclination, Moving Target
*

What types of ammunition are available for the SHIPON?

The tremendous flexability of the SHIPON is enabled and enhanced by two dedicated dual mode warheads.*

Anti-Tank/Anti-Fortification Tandem Warhead:
Can defeat 800 mm of armored steel (reactive armor protected) from a tank, or 500 mm of reinforced concrete from a fortification.

Anti-Fortification/Anti-Personnel Tandem Warhead:
Anti-fortification mode-- The first charge allows the rocket to pass through the reinforced concrete and secondary, or main charge detonates within the fortification.

Anti-personnel mode-- The front and rear fragmentation charges separate at optimal height and explode above the target area for maximum effect against targets.

Note: An extended range rocket is under development for the SHIPON system.

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Price Per Unit: $2,100...$1,900 for orders of greater than 4,000 units.

Beddgelert

10-06-2003, 06:52

The Royal Military Court is impressed by these specifications and has authorized the purchase of 4,500 SHIPON units, and is prepared to transfer (I believe) $8,550,000 to WA.

Western Asia

10-06-2003, 07:01

Sale approved and confirmed.

The Units will arrive in 5 shipments of 900 units over 10 months (10 RL days). They will be carried by Cargo-variant FTTs to your port of choice.

We appreciate your business.

Vrak

10-06-2003, 07:55

To: Western Asia Diplomats
From: Vrak Military Procurement Division
Subject: Missiles

Upon review of our records, we still didn't recieve confirmation of our order for

10 Jericho I @ 2.3 million each
2 Jericho II @ 7.6 million each

10 x 2 300 000 = 23 million
2 x 7 600 000 = 15.2 million

We wired 19.1 million Kronors but did not receive confirmation. We do not require nuclear warheads for the missles since we are currently developing a mid to long-range theater missle system and will use only conventional warheads.

We apologize for any misunderstanding and hopefully this matter can be resolved quickly.

Western Asia

10-06-2003, 07:59

OOC: Check your Telegrams or the original thread (link (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36359&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20&sid=7879b26672c69d52259cbcd5b4d1a04c)).

Sorry, I just got to it.

Vrak

10-06-2003, 08:02

OOC: Lol! No problem! A million here, a billion here. :) Anyhow, real life keeps on interfering with my Nation Stating (I now invented a new verb).

Western Asia

10-06-2003, 08:08

OOC: Billion?

Hmmm, I like that verb...

Yes, and RL just stopped interfering so much for me.

Western Asia

10-06-2003, 08:22

----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>Tech Profiles: The "Scorpion" Future Individual combat System System<<<<

6/2/2003 18:47 LST
UPDATED: 6/9/2003 23:58 LST
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**The future of Infantry Warfare was revealed last week by engineers and representatives from the Greater Israel Military Industries (GISE symbol: IMI).

**The Future Individual Combat System (FICS), which is also known as the "Scorpion Combat Suit," is the result of a concerted effort by the military of Western Asia to improve the combat survivability of soldiers beyond what can be gained through rigorous physical and mental training.

The System employs several technology "modules" that will be able to be upgraded as improvements come along. These systems cover many parts of three important areas of modern combat: Combat Communication/Command, Combat Action Ability Enhancement, Health and Vital Systems Monitoring.

*******Combat Command/Communication
--The Small Unit Communications/Command Intranet (SUCCI)
--The Combined Combat Coordination System (C3S)
--An Audio/Visual Information Relay System (AVIRS)

*******Combat Action Ability Enhancement
--The Friend/Foe Identification System (FFIS)
--The Low/Reduced Visibility Vision Enhancement System (LRVVES)
--The Combat Operations Heads-up Display (COHUD)
--The Target Acquisition/Engagement System (TAES)

*******Health and Vital Systems Monitoring
--The Environmental/Biological Control and Monitoring System (E/BCMS)
--The Immediate Medical Response System (IMRS)

Capabilities:
- coordinate fire even against targets not seen directly by the shooter
- control UAVs/UCAVs/UCARs and RO/ALVs (Remotely Operated/Autonomous Land vehicles
- Increase situational awareness by HUD’s ability to show information such as maps, locations, and even target ranges
- survive harsh conditions
- control: Manual input on forearm-based pad, possibly voice-activated
- Secure communications
- control over band use (allowing varying connection to fellow members of the squad, platoon, or even company and air support)

System: 50-60lbs, mostly evenly distributed over the body, with perhaps an extra 20-30lbs of gear worn in a specialized backback(versus up to 120lbs of today’s gear).

Even more exotic eFabrics are also being developed for the system, which is set to begin initial deployment in 5 years time.
**-- One, known as MyoFlex, mimics the action of human muscles could allow soldiers to bear all of the 50-60lbs of the normal combat gear in addition to other gear without a great deal of additional effort.
**-- Another part of the suit could allow it to open and close pores to allow the suit to "breathe" in certain conditions while still protecting the soldier from chemical and biological agents.
**-- Also in research is something known as "TexCast," which is a type of fabric that could form casts about broken or injured areas of the soldier’s body.
**-- It is even rumored that the suit could be outfitted with a 3rd generation of the WA "Smart Shell" technology.

The limited-run prototype suit (10 produced) cost the military almost $1.4 million USD to build but the final unit cost is expected to run at about $4,400 in active deployment.

OOC: Work In Progress...old version should be ignored as I'm too lazy to log into my alter ego. 8)

Beddgelert

10-06-2003, 10:07

Excuse my own idleness and forgetfulness, if you will, but HRH Prince Llewellyn wonders if WA offers Merkava MBTs for sale, as he is interested in equiping the Royal Sentinels with Mk3 or similar machines (probably in the order of a couple of hundred units).

(ooc. Beddgelert is becoming divided and moving towards civil war between the Royalist and old communist factions, and the communists have for a long time been working on taking majority control of most of the military. The Royalists still hold most of the economic sway, however. If you're worried; neither side is especially brutal or oppresive, though of course democracy is somewhat limited under the Prince (and areas like religion under the communists))

Vrak

10-06-2003, 17:39

OOC: Western Asia, I'm just trying to remember a line from a book I read (I think it was the Bear and the Dragon) when the American prez says something like, "A billion here, a billion there and soon you're talking real money". That is, how casually large amounts of money are tossed around like normal people toss around pennies.

Western Asia

11-06-2003, 00:38

OOC: Vrak, oh... :D

IC:
Beddgelert,
The older Merkava Mk. 3 Baz and Sabra Mk. 1 are both to be put on sale. Since we have had good relations with you (and your mother country Beth Gellert), we will offer both systems to you.

Sabra Mk. 1-- Cost: $4.2 million
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/sabra/index.html
Crew Four
Weight, combat loaded 55 tons
Overall length gun forward 9.40 metres
Overall width without skirts 3. 63 metres
height 3. 05 metres
Main armament 120 mm smooth bore gun
Ammunition stowage 42 rounds
Coaxial machine gun 7.62 mm/5.56 mm
Externally mounted machine guns 2 x7.62 mm / 5.56 mm
Mortar 60 mm
Gunner's sight periscopic day and night, stabilized in 2 axes
Commander's sight day sight plus optical relay to gunner's sight
Laser rangefinder ND:YAG eye-safe
Engine Teledyne Continental AVDS 1790-5A four stroke diesel
Maximum road speed 48 km/hour
Range on hard level ground 450 kilometres

Merkava Mk. 3Baz-- Cost: $4.7 Million
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/merkava/index.html
120 mm smooth-bore gun*
Internal Mortar 60 mm*
Modular Special Armor*
NBC Protection - overpressurised fighting compartment*
Air Conditioning
Automatic Fire Suppression System*
Electro-Magnetic Warning System*
Instantaneous Smoke Grandee Launchers
Advanced Fire Control System*
**** 2 axis stabilized line of sight, auto-tracker, day/night vision*
**** Anti-Helicopter capability*
All-Electric Turret Control System*
Rear access door*
1200 HP engine
*Fully Automatic Transmission*
Advanced Mechanical Suspension*

Technical Data

Weight
Combat loaded************************************************* 65 tons
Dimensions
Overall length, gun forward********************************* 9.04 m
Overall width, without skirts******************************* 3.72 m
Height, to turret roof****************************************** 2.66 m
Armament
Main gun******************************************************** 120 mm
Ammunition storage**************************************** 48 rounds
*************************************** (In individual spall proof and fire proof ontainers).
*Machine-guns************************************************* 3 X 7.62 mm
*Mortar, internal************************************************ 60 mm
Fire Control System*
Commander's sight******************************************* panoramic, independent
*** Day channel magnification***************************** X 4.8 and X 12
*** Thermal & TV display monitor
Gunner's sight************************************************** 2 axis stabilized
**** Day channel magnification:*************************** X 12
**** Thermal & TV channel display monitor
Automatic Tracker for Commander and Gunner
Gun & Turret Control System*
Gun and turret drive********************************************* all electric
Gun Control
*** - Max. Velocity elevation** &***************************** 15° / sec
*** - Max. Velocity traversen** &***************************** 34° / sec
Instantaneous Smoke Grenade*
2 launchers, 24 grenades
NBC protection and air-condition system
*** - Hybrid functioning (overpressured & peersonal mask operation)
*** - Cool-air supply to mask and overalls
Engine
Type****************************************************************** diesel, 4 stroke, air cooled
Configuration******************************************************* 90° V 12
Power**************************************************************** 1200 HP
Transmission
Type**************************************************************** hydrokinetic, fully automatic
Gears**************************************************************** 4 fwd. , 3 rev
Suspension
Type**************************************************************** hydromechanical
Road wheel travel********************************************** 300 mm (bound)
Track*************************************************************** steel, single dry pin
Performance
Range on hard level road************************************* 500 km
Max. Road speed***************************** 60 km/hr
****************************************************** 55 km/hr Max. Cross country speed

Western Asia

11-06-2003, 23:46

----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>Tech Profiles: The Desert Raider<<<<

6/11/2003 18:20 LST
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The Desert Raider is a light, 6x6 patrol vehicle specifically designed to meet the expanding demand from Special Foces and Rapid Deployment Forces for an improved set of highly mobile, fast, and rugged vehicles that can operate in enemy territory as quick attack and surveillance vehicles.

The Desert Raider offers new levels of navigability in harsh desert, moist or wet forest, rocky, or almost any other terrain. The 6 wheels deliver greater maneuverability, and enhanced cross-country mobility over all types of terrain.

Desert Raider from Automotive Industries Ltd. (formerly known as Israeli Military Autos (IMA)), is the world's first and only 6x6 airborne, all-terrain reconnaissance, surveillance and fast attack vehicle (RSV/FAV).

The heart of the Desert Raider 6x6 design is a unique 4-wheel rear suspension unit that has independent suspension for each pair of rear wheels. This feature incorporates a pivot axis about which the vehicle can rise or fall. The 6-wheel drive means that the Desert Raider is able to move with just one of its 6 wheels touching the ground.

The Desert Raider is easily transportable within a CH-53 (2 can fit within, or can be slung beneath), and is a very tough vehicle in general--fast, rugged, powerful, and light. The and through all of this, the vehicle bears 4 or 5 people, depending on use, with very powerful armament.

The Desert Raider has a reduced IR signal thanks to shielding techniques and is also very quiet, thanks to sound suppression devices. The automatic transmission, powerful engine and flexible yet rugged frame, further contribute to the mobility and maneuverability of Desert Raider.

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The DR has a unique passenger configuration as well:
1 driver, centrally located with 3 gunners or 2 gunners and 2 passengers.

Two gunners are located on either side of the driver with "moving arm"-based gun mounts. There is another gun mount on the frame of the vehicle's "roof" that can support weapons as small as 5.56mm or as large as a .50 cal (top mount) or H&K GMG (grenade machine gunlauncher). That weapon is manned by one man standing, although there is room in the back for either a full set of packs for the 4 men or for a second passenger (if there is no 'top' gunner as during light patrols).

Some specs for the Desert Raider:

* Speed-- up to 110 kph
* Curb weight-- 1450 kg
* Payload-- up to 1200 kg
* Low thermal signature RFI/EMC
* Gradeability-- 70%
* Side slope-- 70%
* Fording (without preparation)-- 700 mm
* Vertical step-- 600 mm
* Operating range-- 600 km
* Slow gradient crawling

The special features and high manufacturing standards mean that a Desert Raider runs at about $18,600 dollars a unit.

Beddgelert

12-06-2003, 01:48

Thank you, not least for the unusually in-depth specifications.

The Royal Court wishes to order 260 Merkava Mk3
$1.22bln represents a significant portion of the defence budget, but in these uncertain times it is deemed acceptable.

(ooc. unless I added that up completely wrong :) )

(This just isn't posting, is it? God damn it! Post!)

Western Asia

12-06-2003, 02:06

--DP--

Western Asia

12-06-2003, 02:07

Indeed,
260 Merkava Mk. 3Baz @ $4.7million/unit= $1.222bn

Total cost, with a minimal S+H and equipment charge of about 2%, is 1.246bn. The tanks will arrive in 13 shipments of 20 vehicles over the next 2 weeks. An initial load of ammo is included.

It's been a pleasure to do business with you.

Beddgelert

12-06-2003, 02:24

Thank you. The funds will begin transfer at once, and the goods put to vital defensive use.

Western Asia

12-06-2003, 04:08

OOC:
oops, I meant to say "2 weeks (2RL days)"

Beddgelert

12-06-2003, 04:55

ooc. Ah, even better :)

Western Asia

12-06-2003, 20:24

*bump* for me

Omz222

13-06-2003, 05:55

10x Merkava Mk. 3Baz-- Cost: $4.7 Million pls :D

Western Asia

13-06-2003, 23:30

10x Merkava Mk. 3Baz-- Cost: $4.7 Million pls :D

10 X Merkava Mk. 3Baz@ $4.7M/unit= $47M

Pleasure to do business with you. All 10 should be arriving within 2 weeks aboard one of our HSV/FTTs (2 days RLT).

Omz222

14-06-2003, 00:16

Thx :D
Money wired!

Western Asia

17-06-2003, 21:13

*bump* (so it doesn't fall out of my search range again)

De Wit

17-06-2003, 21:23

Are you gonna roll out the Merkava Mk. IVs any time soon?

De Wit

17-06-2003, 21:26

I'll take an order of 50Sabra's, to add to my current armored cavalry divisions. Do I get a discount?

I'll wire the money as soon as I get confirmation of this order.

Western Asia

17-06-2003, 23:44

I'll take an order of 50Sabra's, to add to my current armored cavalry divisions. Do I get a discount?

I'll wire the money as soon as I get confirmation of this order.

50 X Sabra Mk. 1@ $4.2M/unit= $210M

With 15% discount as a part of the Regional Defense Initiative, the cost is only $178.5M

Always a pleasure to do business.

(OOC: the Mk. IVs will have to wait a bit...until I get back at least and then I'll be doing a lot of other things first. If it does come out you can expect it to be in the dedicated Weapons Systems sales thread.)

Western Asia

18-06-2003, 04:43

----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>Tech Profiles: The AH-1Z UltraCobra and The RAH-80 Zephyr<<<<

6/17/2003 19:20 LST
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Western Asia's GIAI has been producing the AH-1W SuperCobra for a good many years now, but the system is now coming to the end of its combat effectiveness as improved ground, sea, and air systems have made it an inferior platform.

This problem was highlighted recently when Western Asia's military systems procurement board acquired some 1,700 KL-55 Sabre helicopters from Klamath for a total of $23.2bn. The helicopters all had to be brought up to WA standards in avionics and system maintenance simplicity anyways.

This purchase came as a shock to GIAI and other Western Asian arms companies, which have historically enjoyed the benefits of being WA's main arms source.

The purchase also accelerated 2 programs under joint development by GIAI and the IDF's Air Force Special Projects Division (AFSPD).

The AH-1Z UltraCobra
True to its name, the UltraCobra is meant to be the last of the proud and long-serving Cobra line of attack helicopters. The legacy continues with development of the most modern armed helicopter available, the AH-1Z.

The AH-1Z is a transition-stage craft meant to be employed as a stop-gap between the current generation of AH-1W SuperCobras and the next generation helicopters along the lines of the Comache. It uses much improved avionics, engine, and weapons systems.

<clip from official materials>
Proven design, latest technology
The AH-1Z brings together proven AH-1W airframe reliability, a revolutionary new composite four bladed main and tail rotor, impressive performance of GIMC T700 series engines, and fully integrated weapons and avionics systems. The cockpit of the AH-1Z maximizes future digital battlefield operations via an advanced technology mission equipment package (MEP) integrated at the human-machine level by state-of-the-art cockpit design. This combination of combat proven airframe design coupled with the latest technology in systems integration and manufacturing processes has created the preeminent armed reconnaissance helicopter for the current and future battlefield. The AH-1Z provides significant improvements over current armed helicopters in multi-mission capability and selective firepower.

World's most capable cockpit
The cockpit of the AH-1Z features the world’s most capable and compatible integrated helicopter crew stations, incorporating the latest innovations in ‘glass’ cockpit design. Mission-oriented automation, using artificial intelligence software applications for accelerated cognitive decision aiding, ensures that pertinent information is readily available to the crew to enhance their situational awareness while extensive usability testing to reduce crew workload significantly improves mission effectiveness.

The AH-1Z crewstation/MEP is the culmination of many years of experience by BHTI in designing advanced cockpits, featuring state of the art communication, navigation and fire control equipment. Two large, high resolution colour multifunction displays (MFDs) in each crewstation ensure that all mission and flight information is never more than two button pushes away. A full alphanumeric keyboard and a further limited function display complement the MFDs.

The AH-1Z incorporates an Integrated Helmet Mounted Display and Sighting System (IHMDSS) featuring dual cathode ray tube (CRT) projection onto the visor. The IHMDSS can display information from all aircraft sensors including the helmet’s detachable low light image intensification (I2) camera. The IHMDSS allows flight instrument and situational symbology to be overlaid on the projected image. The aircraft also incorporates a digital map system (DMS) capable of providing moving high fidelity three dimensional colour graphic displays and an integrated mission planning system providing flight path, navigation data, threat rings and intervisibility information for pre-planned and pop up threats.

The AH-1Z has a tandem cockpit configuration that enables interchangeable duty functions between fore and aft crew stations, through unique, stowable mission grips. Crewmembers can either fight or fly the aircraft from either crew station. Mission and flight coordination between crew is direct, simple and positive. Cockpit external visibility will be superior to any armed helicopter in operation today or under development. With the pilot in the front, external visibility is virtually unconstrained. The Stability and Control Augmentation System (SCAS) significantly reduces aircrew workload while the ‘side-stick’ cyclic handling qualities are superior to those of a conventional ‘center-stick’ cyclic.

The best targeting capability of any attack helicopter
GIAI has recently chosen El-Op to supply the Target Sight System (TSS) for the AH-1Z armed helicopter. The TSS contains state of the art electo-optic sensors and systems that provide target detection, recognition and identification at extreme ranges during day or night operation, and under adverse weather conditions.

The capabilities of the TSS are particularly suited to multi mission requirements. The TSS allows the full capabilities of the Hellfire missile to be realized for attack missions and permits reconnaissance missions to be undertaken at stand-off distances well outside the ballistic range of an adversary’s weapons. Because the TSS is fully integrated into the mission system, the accuracy of the rockets and guns on board are significantly improved. Integration of the TSS also allows the AH-1Z to share its targeting capability through target hand-off to friendly forces, ensuring that the AH-1Z is a full participant in today’s digital battlefield environment.

The TSS can be slewed by either the mission grips or the head motion of either crewmember using the IHMDSS. Once the operator detects a target, its azimuth, elevation and range are recorded in the aircraft mission computer. The information is translated to earth coordinates and the position of the target entered into the aircraft’s DMS. The target can be handed off to other aircraft or ground stations. The number of targets stored in the aircraft mission computer is limited only by system allocated memory.

The capability of the TSS FLIR, TV and laser designator/rangefinder to detect, recognize, identify and designate targets is significantly beyond the maximum range of the weapons of the AH-1Z platform.

Aircraft survivability
The AH-1Z has an advanced electronic warfare self protection (EWSP) suite and incorporates ballistically hardened components that protect it from a broad range of modern threat weapons. In the event of a crash, the aircraft is designed with a proven crashworthy fuel system to reduce the risk of fire and fully stroking crashworthy seats to protect crewmembers from injury.

GIMC Bull T700-401 engines
The modular design engines in the Greater Israeli Motor Company's "Bull" T700 series which power a number of military helicopters have been widely acknowledged for their proven reliability and excellent fuel consumption. The twin T700-MC-401 engines fitted to the AH-1Z ensure that there is always sufficient power margin to meet the operator’s mission requirements.

Composite bearingless main rotor
Bearingless, composite main rotor systems were successfully tested on many earlier test-beds and have become standard within WA's custom Blackhawk- and SuperStallion-series craft. Based on the performance of this remarkable rotor system, GIAI decided to incorporate it in their new AH-1Z helicopter. This unique rotor system provides unprecedented agility, substantially increased speed, a smoother ride, a more stable weapons platform, and excellent reliability. It will also reduce crew fatigue and enhance combat mission effectiveness.

The main rotor hub consists of a bearingless assembly utilizing two identical stacked composite yokes, visco-elastic dampers, elastomeric shear restraints, pitch horns, pitch change adapters, composite cuffs, blade retention bolts, drive bushings, splined drive plate, and upper and lower flapping stops.

The four bladed composite bearingless main rotor gives the AH-1Z excellent performance and high payload capabilities.

Qualified for the harshest marine environment
The AH-1Z is designed to withstand operation in the harshest marine environments. The aircraft is ‘wet assembled’ and incorporates aluminum transmission cases to prevent corrosion. In addition to the avionics and electrical systems, the aircraft engines are fully marinized for on-board ship operations with built-in protection from the electro-magnetic environment associated with naval vessels. The AH-1Z also incorporates a unique semi automatic main rotor blade folding capability that enables the aircraft to be easily moved and stored in confined areas.

Field expedient maintenance, low operating costs
Both the engines and airframe have been built with the maintainer in mind. The design facilitates field expedient maintenance as well as extended periods of maintenance free operation. Bell and its suppliers, known for their world-class support, are confident that the AH-1Z will continue the AH-1 tradition of providing industry leading reliability at the lowest operating and through life cost.

Mission effective, battlefield tested
The AH-1Z is designed for superior target acquisition/weapons delivery, low altitude high speed flight, multiple weapon fire support, coordination of multi-arms strikes on a broad array of hardened and personnel targets as well as troop transport/utility helicopter escort support. The AH-1Z can be readily reconfigured to meet any of these missions by flight line personnel. The helicopter is capable of performing these missions from prepared or unprepared areas, by day or night, and in adverse weather.

Weapons
The true test of any attack helicopter is what it can deliver to the battlefield. Designed to seek out and destroy enemy armor and mechanized forces from long range, the SuperCobra is unequaled in the extraordinary variety of firepower it delivers.

It is the only attack helicopter in the world to have the dual anti-armor capability of TOW and HELLFIRE missiles. The HELLFIRE can effectively defeat heavy armor and hardened fortifications even at ranges beyond 6 km (3.24 nm). When firing in cooperative mode with laser target illumination, the SuperCobra crew has fire-and-forget capability. And the Night Targeting System (NTS) allows the SuperCobra to operate in the autonomous mode and self-designate the target.

If faced with dust, smoke, blowing sand or other environmental conditions that would hamper the laser-guided HELLFIRE, the wire-guided TOW can be utilized at ranges exceeding 3 km (1.62 nm). The SuperCobra also typically carries 70mm (2.75 in) rockets with submunitions warheads.

And, for close range up to 2 km (1.08 nm), a three-barrel 20mm (.79 in) Gatling gun with 750 rounds of ammunition delivers awesome fire-suppression capability. Either crew member can fire the system. With guns in the fixed forward position, the pilot can aim by simply maneuvering the AH-1W. Or either crew member can slave the turret to the helmet-mounted sight, and aim at a target by simply looking at it.

Additional options include the larger 12.7 cm (5 in) Zuni rockets bombs and the soon-to-be-qualified state-of-the-art Maverick air-to-ground missile. Air-to-air ordnance is equally impressive. In fact, the SuperCobra was the first attack helicopter to qualify both the SideWinder air-to-air missile and the SideArm anti-radiation missile. No other attack helicopter made can carry such a wide array of armaments.
<clip from official materials>

Test flights

The system is expected to cost $11.3 Million WD/USD or about 9.6 million Shekels in the first run. Later systems are expected to be only about $11 million WD/USD.

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The RAH-80 Zephyr

There is not too much known about the Zephyr project except that it is directed towards the development of a native form of the RAH-66 Comache, which has begun to proliferate among both friendly and opposing nations. The Zephyr is based on plans of the Comache and upon system evaluations that have taken place aboard modified KL-55 Sabres and UCARs.

The RAH-80 promises to be on par, if not superior to, the Comache as it uses WA tech that is not available to most Comache producers. The system is reported to cost only $12.4 Million to the Comache's $14 Million thanks to improved manufacturing techniques and the joint-development origin of the platform.

Analysts have referred to the RAH-80 as "the key to Western Asia's future rotary craft superiority."

Western Asia

18-06-2003, 22:41

UPDATE: On the ACP-1
The ACP-1 has been re-designated the YACP-1 to designate its status as a prototype vehicle.

3 test vehicles are under construction, each with a different propulsion system,

1) Sakkra's Ducted Fan Engines (YACP-1S),
2) Ell's atmospheric Ionic engines (YACP-1E),
3) The "Anti-grav" system developed in concert with Mega Tau and several other powerful and large nations over several years (YACP-1AG).

Updates and a report on the performance of each system is expected to be released when the first production-run type is announced in a few years.

OOC: I'm gone for 1 RLT week, the first production model will be out then and a sample of each test bed will be provided to the engine producers in thanks.

Loserly Peeps

27-06-2003, 16:45

i am interested in purchasing 3 STHEL laser defense systems, but not at the price you suggested. i am willing to pay up to $70 million only.

Western Asia

27-06-2003, 20:19

i am interested in purchasing 3 STHEL laser defense systems, but not at the price you suggested. i am willing to pay up to $70 million only.

You will pay the stated price for the stated goods if you want them. Western Asia's companies are not known for making tremendous deals for strangers when so many good customers do not receive the same.

If you want an STHEL, it will have to come from Western Asia and it will come for the stated price.

Thank you.

Loserly Peeps

27-06-2003, 20:56

All right, i will pay the price, but i will only for two. I will wire the money now, plus 1 million extra to ensure very prompt delivery. *wires the money*

Western Asia

28-06-2003, 01:02

OOC: I'm back. The show goes on.
IC:

UPDATE: On the YACP-1

Construction of the initial 3 YACP units (with one of each designated type) was completed 14 months ago and the systems have since undergone extensive testing under a variety of conditions. Testing was completed by a 3rd-party group of Aeronautics and Combat Systems Specialists from academic fields.

The funding was provided jointly by the WA DARPA , the the IDF's Air Force Special Projects Division (AFSPD), and the GIAI Advanced Projects Development Group (APDG). Parallel system developments meant to modify several weapons systems for inclusion on the platform were also completed during this time period and were all approved when the systems were proven to meet or exceed standards.

The following statements summarize the systems testing reports, issued at 3 month intervals throughout the progression of the project.

Note: Modified 747 engines (GIMC CF6-80C2B5F’s), with a thrust of 62,000 lbs, were adapted for use as the vertical, non-moving, engines. 2 such engines were installed along the centerline of each and every testbed. These engines both served as the main altitude maintenance systems (except in the 1AG) and as emergency back-ups in case the pylon-mounted smaller engines proved to be inadequate for use.

System Performance Report

The YACP-1S

PERFORMANCE
The 1S version of the YACP proved to have exceptional performance results throughout the testing process. Research and development efforts coordinated between GIAI and Sakkran engine designers was able to produce an improved ducted fan engine that generated as much as 24,000lbs of thrust during operation.

The YACP-1S met all of the test milestones easily and managed to exceed the speed limitations in an additional battery of tests, meeting and exceeding the speed of the A/AO-10 Thunderbolt by 60 mph, as it reached 480mph before testing was discontinued.

The fuel efficiency and lift capacity were found to be within the acceptable and desired bounds.

PROBLEMS
There was one almost disastrous incident towards the end of the 1S’s testing period, when an improperly-adjusted fuel line broke loose during VTOL testing. This caused the forward set of 2 Sakkran engines to shut down. The thrust from the rear engines, which was set in the position for vertical landing, caused the craft to almost over-turn before the automated systems cut in. The AI was able to recognize the sudden imbalance and to adjust the craft before it reached a nose-tail depression greater than 30°. The AI also used the GIMC CF6-80C2B5F’s (the centrally-located engines) to control the descent.

The craft was in fact only lightly damaged but required 2 weeks of work to recover full use, although the main issue involved the need to re-machine the tubes, which had been custom-produced for the project. In actual use, the replacement time would be less than 4 hours, including a full-systems check before certification for continued use, as the parts would all be available to maintenance crews. It was also noted that since there is only one 1S in existence that the maintenance crew re-checked all connections in the craft to ensure that there were no problems—at the cost of an extra 3 days of down-time. In the end no further connection faults were found and the determination was made that the fault originated in poor maintenance and human error rather than any technical issues.

The pilot was somewhat jostled by the experience but it also gave engineers the opportunity to refine the AI so that a smoother transition could be made.

Projections from the craft’s performance data indicates that the craft could maintain flight for another 30 minutes without problem (as the central and rear-pylon engines were perfectly capable of maintaining forward flight at reasonable altitudes), but the 1S was landed due to concerns about the leaked fuel. The line was quickly and automatically shut off, but the danger that the small amount of leaked fuel posed to the rare systems encouraged testers to immediately suspend operations until maintenance was completed.

CONCLUSIONS
The 1S passed the technical tests with flying colors and a second YACP-1S is now being constructed that will serve as a systems integration and testing platform. If the basic tests of this next system prove to work well then it is believed that the YACP-1S may act as a template for the final production model of this concept.

A third unit of the YACP-1S class is also being constructed for possible use as a troop transporter. The Transporter version will have a much modified superstructure and many fewer weapons systems to maximize the capacity. It is expected that between 24 and 60 men could be transported by this ship, which is not going to conflict with the Sakkran heavy transporter as it will fill a more front-line role and will probably not be as useful for the transport of heavy weaponry and machinery.

The armed version of the YACP-1S will also have a second crewman, who will act as a weapons control officer. That position will improve the use of the weapons systems as the job of piloting and weapons control are completed by two man-AI teams. The transporter version will have 2 extra crewmen—one for the ship’s defensive systems and another to coordinated movements with command and to keep the transported soldiers in order for insertions and extractions.

The YACP-1E
PERFORMANCE
The 1E version of the YACP did not meet the demanded system specifications, albeit mostly due to the low thrust of the engines and their large size. The system was able to perform without flaw, but was deemed to be insufficiently powerful for practical use. However, the GIAI APDG and the IDF’s AFSPD have since taken the engines for testing in other, classified, projects.

PROBLEMS
As stated, the system was found to perform well and mostly without flaws, when good maintenance was provided. The main issues involved the maintenance demanded by the system in relation to established IDF-AF and IDF-N practices, which are better-adapted for turboprop or jet-engine designs, and the low thrust power of the engines, which is ill-suited for the ACP’s purposes.

CONCLUSIONS
The YACP-1E system was scrapped after the full run of tests. The system is not suited for the ACP’s intended role. Technical data gleaned from the testing of the engines, and a full-sized model of the YACP-1E (the shell of the system with certain modifications demanded by national security), will be sent to the government of Ell in thanks for their permission for engine use and their sale of a few of the engines to WA.

The YACP-1AG

PERFORMANCE
The 1AG version of the YACP met many of the system requirements, but it was noted that the demand for power was a limiting factor for the system. The 1AG performed excellently and was able to perform many of the necessary functions without the use of additional systems. Extra weighting was added to make up for the fact that that system did not need the pylon fans. The dead weight added was of only limited value as horizontally-oriented engines were also added to provide forward thrust for the craft.

The system was able to out perform the 1S in many maneuvers, but it is many times as expensive to use and maintain.

PROBLEMS
The system, unfortunately, requires an extremely powerful energy source. Namely, a nuclear power plant. While the use of a power plant was permitted during non-combat testing, it is deemed to be too risky and expensive to field such a basic unit type with such a high demand for vulnerable nuclear reactors. This demand is indeed the Achilles’ Heel of the 1AG, but solid-state power cells might allow the AG to perform in at least limited ranges.

CONCLUSIONS
Although found to be unsuitable for widespread use and public sale, the YACP-1AG was found to have many admirable qualities. In light of this, the system has been guided into a dedicated program that will seek to determine the best use of the AG system. Due to the extreme cost of the system, the cheaper, albeit less-well performing, 1S version will be the basis for standardized platforms in this category. It is possible that several customized units will be produced exclusively for use by the IDF, thanks to its much quieter nuclear powerplant and the malleability of the structure for special purposes.

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Updates will follow on this project in the future. Any questions should be directed to the project manager, Dr. Tobias Kempt.

Western Asia

28-06-2003, 01:11

All right, i will pay the price, but i will only for two. I will wire the money now, plus 1 million extra to ensure very prompt delivery. *wires the money*

The order is confirmed. The million should cover the shipping expenses. The systems, with manuals, will be sent via C-5 transports or HSV/FTTs, depending on what is available. The systems should be with you within the week.

We thank you for your business.

Western Asia

28-06-2003, 05:28

----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>Tech Update: The AH-1Z UltraCobra and The RAH-80 Zephyr<<<<

Original Dispatch:
File Reference XH2-8-06172003 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=670516#670516)
6/17/2003 19:20 LST

Update:
6/27/03 21:11 LST
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NEWS
The AH-1Z UltraCobra

Since the original dispatch, it has been reported that the AH-1Z has passed all flight tests and that GIAI has begun standard production. The final cost of the development project is reported at $365 million dollars of direct project development funding with an additional $47.4 million expended on the construction of several test platforms.

The initial production run is to include some 110 AH-1Zs at an average unit price of $11.6 Million WD/USD, with a second batch of equal size to begin starting this coming winter at an average price of $11.3 Million WD/USD.

It was reported to our reporter that the initial 2 sets will be deployed for exercises under combat conditions and thereafter will be integrated as older SuperCobras, before the 1W designation, are discarded or sold off. It is believed that 1Ws will continue to be a part of the WA force, but that they will serve in a much more limited role.

Foreign sales of the 1Z are being debated by the Weapon Systems Export Control Board and the Senate Foreign Relations Comittee but GIAI representatives have said that they expect the approval for foreign sales (with some diminished capabilities) to be allowed by the time that the third batch of UltraCobras is ordered.

The final price for the IDF is expected to be between $11 and $11.3 million per unit, and the foreign sales price is expected to waiver between $11.6 and $12 million.

EDIT: Increased costs and limited foreign demand have set the price at $12.4 million/unit.

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The RAH-80 Zephyr

The Zephyr project is reportedly advancing at a steady pace with some flight tests having been completed. GIAI and IDF officials remain tight-lipped on the record, but have expressed a deep satisfaction that the Zephyr will fulfill its required roles with ease.

Some analysts have mentioned reports of the RAH-80 test bed being deployed on fleet vessels while marked as RAH-66s.

Reports will follow when new information is available.

29-06-2003, 17:47

Western Asia

30-06-2003, 00:28

I would like to place an order for the following:
300,000 Tavor Assault Rifles TAR 21
100,000 Sharpshooting Tavor Assault Rifles STAR 21
50,000 Commando Assault Rifles CTAR 21
25,000 Micro Tavor Assault Rifles
200 Sabra MK
100 Merkava MK
10,000 Desert Raiders

As a member of the new jewish alliance, I expect I will receive the discount you mentioned. Please telegram me with final prices (and, if you don't mind, a very short summary of each's specs). Thank you.

TAR-21s: 300,000@$680/unit= $204 M
CTAR-21s: 50,000@$740/unit= $37 M
STAR-21s: 100,000@$870/unit= $87 M
MTAR-21s: 25,000@$765/unit= $19.125 M

200 X Sabra Mk. 1@ $4.2M/unit= $840 M
100 X Merkava Mk. 3Baz @ $4.7million/unit= $470M

10,000 X Desert Raiders@$18,600/unit= $186 M

Subtotal: $1,843,125,000

4% discount: $1,769,400,000

Total cost, with a minimal S+H and equipment charge of about 2%, is $1.8bn.

The tanks will arrive in 30 shipments of 10 vehicles over the next 2 weeks along with 40,000 rifles of various types and 340 Desert Raiders until all has been shipped. An initial load of ammo is included.

It's been a pleasure to do business with you.

Specs:
Merkavas and Sabras: Crew of 4, 120mm barrel. Modern armoring with advanced geometries and materials for improved protection against hostile fire. The Merkavas weigh more but can carry 6-8 loaded combat troops in an APC capacity while the lighter Sabras cannot. Advanced optics, targeting, and management systems are standard equipment.

Desert Raiders: Special operations ground craft. 6-wheeled with special suspension that allows movement across most types of terrain. Stealthy movement with IR and noise suppression, bears 4 soldiers including one driver and 3 passenger/gunners or 2 passenger/gunners and 2 passengers. Internally transportable by H-53.

Tavor Assault Rifle Series: Bull-pup style weapons with improved reliability over M16 series of weapons. For ease of use, components are arranged similarly to the associated components in the Colt/M16 series of weapons and can accept the M16 magazine. Highly accurate with built-in reflex-type sights (except on the STAR, which has a true tactical sniping sight).

30-06-2003, 01:07

TAR-21s: 300,000@$680/unit= $204 M
CTAR-21s: 50,000@$740/unit= $37 M
STAR-21s: 100,000@$870/unit= $87 M
MTAR-21s: 25,000@$765/unit= $19.125 M

200 X Sabra Mk. 1@ $4.2M/unit= $840 M
100 X Merkava Mk. 3Baz @ $4.7million/unit= $470M

10,000 X Desert Raiders@$18,600/unit= $186 M

Subtotal: $1,843,125,000

4% discount: $1,769,400,000

Total cost, with a minimal S+H and equipment charge of about 2%, is $1.8bn.

The tanks will arrive in 30 shipments of 10 vehicles over the next 2 weeks along with 40,000 rifles of various types and 340 Desert Raiders until all has been shipped. An initial load of ammo is included.

Thank you very much. $1.8bn has been wired to you.

It's been a pleasure to do business with you.

Same here.

Omz222

30-06-2003, 01:43

2500x Sabra Mk. 1

30-06-2003, 01:57

i want new technolage

Western Asia

30-06-2003, 03:01

Omz, your order will be filled soon. BTW, are you a part of the NJA? I'll give you the same discount since we're effectively allies anyways.

RtW,
Please try to be at least minimally specific about your interests.

Omz222

30-06-2003, 03:09

Omz, your order will be filled soon. BTW, are you a part of the NJA? I'll give you the same discount since we're effectively allies anyways.

No, I am part of RGGA, CAGED, and the Imeprial Alliance (sorta).

Western Asia

30-06-2003, 09:19

2500x Sabra Mk. 1

2,500 X Sabra Mk. 1@ $4.2M/unit= $10.5 bn

4% discount: $10.08bn

Total cost, with a minimal S+H and equipment charge of about 2%, is $10.28bn.

The tanks will arrive in 50 shipments of 50 vehicles over the next 10 months. An initial load of ammo is included.

It's been a pleasure to do business with you.

Rush delivery is available for another 10 million, and will get you your full number of tanks in about 4 1/2 months.

Western Asia

30-06-2003, 09:20

OOC:
Error!!!

Penguin's shipment time is supposed to be 2 months....

30-06-2003, 10:10

.....

Western Asia

30-06-2003, 10:51

Yes?

Omz222

30-06-2003, 16:30

2500x Sabra Mk. 1

2,500 X Sabra Mk. 1@ $4.2M/unit= $10.5 bn

4% discount: $10.08bn

Total cost, with a minimal S+H and equipment charge of about 2%, is $10.28bn.

The tanks will arrive in 50 shipments of 50 vehicles over the next 10 months. An initial load of ammo is included.

Rush delivery is available for another 10 million, and will get you your full number of tanks in about 4 1/2 months.

Money wired, with rush delivery fee (I made a few billion). Thx!

It's been a pleasure to do business with you.
Same here.

Western Asia

30-06-2003, 22:56

No problem....I'm guessing that MT was just book marking the site.

01-07-2003, 11:24

The Sperry Air Force is interested in purchasing a consignment of UltraCobra attack helicopters. Our rotary wing aircraft development has stalled for the moment as other commitments call, but recent tests of generously supplied AH-1Z craft at the Traf Point Airshow have convinced the procurement committee, providing an acceptable bid is offered. We look forward to hearing your price and delivery terms.

Western Asia

01-07-2003, 20:54

For this sale, the price will be set at $12 million dollars/unit. The previous message misquoted the Foreign sales price, which is $12.4 million standard. The stated price was one reserved for special allies and nations.

Since Sperry is a special customer, we will honor the older price.

A 2% shipping charge on any order should cover the cost of transport, which will occur by HSVs (High Speed Vessels, about 45knts is top sustainable speed). Each HSV can carry about 50 units (rotors detached, stored state). Also aboard will be a crew of 52 including communications, sales specialists, pilots for the ship's own aircraft, mechanics, and transport technicians. There is also an 8-man security team, mostly retired Special Naval Operations soldiers who've taken this job for its ease and pay.

The craft has 2 AH-1Z, 1 SH-60 Seahawk, and 1 UH-60 Blackhawk which are stored on the HSV's landing pad (under a retractable covering). These craft protect the ship and serve in various roles in support of the transport mission.

Each ship, if moving alone, is guarded by 2 FAMBs and 1 Heli Corvette. Larger shipments (4 or more vessels) involve Fleet Detachments including FD Destroyers and frigates.

03-07-2003, 10:33

Western Asia

03-07-2003, 22:55

Thank you for your kind offer. We will not forget this, should you ever wish to make a purchase from Sperry.

The order for 100 units is confirmed, and the payment has been transferred. Please ship the helicopters to Everton Roads - we are arranging docking and transport, and further information will be provided en route.

A pleasure doing business with you!

100 X AH-1Z UltraCobra@$12M (special price)= $1.2 Billion

With S&H charges, your total comes to $1.224 Billion dollars. Thanks for choosing GIAI for your helicopter needs. It has been a pleasure.

There will be 2 shipments of 50 units each. The first will depart tomorrow evening and the second 3 weeks after that (RLT= ~1 day and 2 days from now, respectively).

Western Asia

06-07-2003, 10:25

More ideas coming soon! Old ideas finished! Mentioned ideas brought to life!

Stay tuned. :wink:

GMC Military Arms

06-07-2003, 10:26

Working on anything resembling laser point defence?

Western Asia

06-07-2003, 10:43

Not much aside from the MTHEL system...but I've been working on a more compact version so that it can be mounted on my carriers (give them another job to do other than being large, if stealthy, fast, and relatively cheap, targets for enemies)...and it would be fast enough to serve as a point-defense weapon in some cases (as the larger original is mostly able to do already).

We use an advanced version of the Barak missile point-defense system as well as an array of other missiles, our millenium guns, and "passive" defenses like flares and chaff. Also working on adapting my directional EMI devices for possible use against enemy aircraft and missiles.

Is there something that you'd want me to work on?

GMC Military Arms

06-07-2003, 10:45

We're working on developing a system for our new Type 96 Railships, 'S all...

Western Asia

06-07-2003, 10:47

Well, the STHELs could defend against larger weaponry....well, it could also take down shells I guess, so it can act against a great number of things--with the right number of operators.

GMC Military Arms

06-07-2003, 10:59

Well, the STHELs could defend against larger weaponry....well, it could also take down shells I guess, so it can act against a great number of things--with the right number of operators.

Well, if you could send a few STHELs to your workshop in GMC so we can start trying them out, that'd be cool.

Western Asia

06-07-2003, 11:18

Sure, 6 will be sent over with the next resupply mission that should be very soon now (expect tomorrow by the time you get on). In the meantime the general specs are available to you now (see posting on first page and the link from there).

Keep us in the loop. While it has been suggested that the MTHEL could attack aircraft or other vessels we have yet to try this concept out.

GMC Military Arms

06-07-2003, 11:33

<Incidentally, you'll be pissed to learn we've nearly finished that magnetic satellite launcher...>

Western Asia

06-07-2003, 18:02

<Pissed? Why's that? It's great.>

Western Asia

07-07-2003, 06:51

Western Asia is set to introduce a new set of variants for the Hellfire missile.

The main variant is the AGM-114K HELLFIRE II missile. The Hellfire II missile features dual warheads for defeating reactive armor, electro-optical countermeasures hardening, semiactive laser seeker, and a digital autopilot that can be reprogrammed in flight for new targets and trajectory shaping. The $65,000 Hellfire K that can acquire targets from altitudes of at least 15,000 ft. The AGM-114K missile is capable of operating with either pulsed radar frequency or A-Code laser codes for those aircraft equipped with dual code capability. Hellfire II incorporates many improvements over the Interim Hellfire missile, including solving the laser obscurant/backscatter problem, the only shortcoming identified during the USA's Operation Desert Storm. Other improvements include electro-optical countermeasure hardening, improved target reacquisition capability, an advanced technology warhead system capable of defeating reactive armor configurations projected into the next century, reprogrammability to adapt to changing threats and mission requirements, and shipboard compatibility. Development was a joint effort between RAFAEL, Ltd. and the Airforce Special Projects Development Unit (ASPDU).

Another variant is the AGM-114M Blast-Frag Hellfire, which produces a great deal of shrapnel for AP (anti-personnel), AF (anti-fortification), and limited antivehicular damage against unarmored vehicles. Cost: $65,000.

The final variant, known by the equipment classification code as the AGM-114N, uses a thermobaric warhead to defeat massed troop units and to cause secondary psychological effects upon enemy forces. The guidance and targeting systems are the same as on the AGM-114K Hellfire II. The price of the thermobaric unit is $68,000 and while the diameter of this variant is the same as that of the Hellfire II, the mass has moved up from 100lbs to 102lbs. A similar warhead is being considered for the HARMR (and HARMR-based systems) and other systems such as MLRS rockets.

These designs and concepts have been patented by RAFAEL, a Western Asian company, and the production of the unit has begun. Initially, the systems will only be offered to Zion Pact nations and close allies...followed by WMNK, IDI, and NJA members and finally the general public on a case-by-case basis. The missiles are fully compatable with older Hellfire launchers and launch platforms.

All orders are subject to review and service can be refused without a stated cause.

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In other news, RAFAEL has also introduced an improved version of the Python Air to Air missile.

The fifth-generation Python 5 Full Sphere IR Missile provides the pilot engaging an enemy aircraft with a full sphere launch capability.*The missile can be launched from very short to beyond-visual ranges with greater kill probability, excellent resistance to countermeasures, irrespective of evasive target manoeuvres or deployment of countermeasures.

Python 5 combines advanced new technologies with operationally proven Python 4 components.*The missile incorporates a new dual waveband imaging seeker, advanced computer architecture, Inertial Navigation System (INS), sophisticated Infra-Red Counter-Counter-Measures (IRCCM) and sophisticated flight control algorithms. Python 5 maintains Python 4’s unique aerodynamic airframe, INS, powerful rocket motor, warhead and proximity fuze.

Python 5 provides revolutionary full sphere competence, achieved by a combination of Lock-On-After-Launch (LOAL) and excellent acquisition and tracking capabilities. Its dual waveband Focal Plane Array (FPA) seeker and sophisticated algorithms enable acquisition of even small, low signature targets in Look-Down, adverse background and cloudy environments.

Developmental and operational testing have already been carried out including extensive captive-carry evaluation tests and free-flight homing tests.

All ideas, concepts, and tech patented and copyrighted.

GMC Military Arms

07-07-2003, 07:52

<Pissed? Why's that? It's great.>

Because I'd hideously undercut your sat launches?

Western Asia

07-07-2003, 07:55

OOC: Nah, we mostly only do sat launches for allies and as favors.

Western Asia

08-07-2003, 04:33

*bump* for my new Missiles!!!

Omz222

08-07-2003, 04:37

What are all the stuff that I can buy here? :P

Western Asia

08-07-2003, 06:48

Small Arms:
• Tavor family of weapons (Price and info in posting)
• SHIPON man-portable rocket launcher (Price and info in posting)
• Negev LMG <Patented now, specs upcoming> (SS109 (M855) 5.56X 45mm (same power as older-style ball 7.62 ammo), M16 or Galil magazine-/150rnd or 200rnd bag-/belt-fed, ROF: 750-850/850-1000 (by position). Built-in bipod. Employs M1913 Picatinny rail and other features...details (http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/lmg/negev/variants.htm) soon)
***--2 Versions
*********- Standard (460cm barrel; 1020cm/780cm:Total Length/Folded Stock; 7.6kg; PPU: $1760)
*********- Assault/Commando (Assault handle replaces Bipod; 330cm barrel; 890cm(shorter than an M16A2)/680cm:Total Length/Folded Stock; 6.95kg, PPU: $1550)

Heavier Weapons
• THEL system--many variants and deployment platforms (Price and info in posting)
• HARMR missile (Price and info available elsewhere, soon to be collected here)
• AGM-114 variants (Price and info in posting)
• Python 5 Air to Air missile (Price and info in posting)

Light Land Vehicles
• Desert Raider high-mobility, low-observability, fast strike/scout vehicle (Price and info in posting)

Heavy Land Vehicles
• Merkava Mk. IIIBaz (Price and info in posting)
• Sabra Mk. I (Price and info in posting)

Aircraft (being sold)
AH-1Z UltraCobra (Price and info in posting)

Not Being Sold Yet, but in processing
• ACP-1 Sentinel (info in posting)
• RAH-88 Zephyr (info in posting)
• Merkava Mk. IV

--Next Few Part of WA Strategic Transport Development Effort (STDE)--
Updates and Info (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=924751#924751)
• PelicanULTRA WIG craft (info in posting, set to enter WA use after decades years of planning, revising, testing, re-planning, and finally, testing...successfully)
• AlbatrossLSTRA (Large Scale Transport Aircraft) mid-range aircraft in style of Pelican but closer to the size of a 747, but still significantly larger (1/2 to 3/4 the size of the full PelicanULTRA). Meant to deal with larger transportation issues to locations not capable of supporting PelicanULTRAs or not necessitating the use of a PelicanULTRA.
• Classified-type Strategic Airlift Airplane (widebody transport and tanker craft)
• High Speed Vessels/Fast Troop Transporters (HSVs/FTTs) (after much delay, specs are on their way)...A classification of the larger, originally planned version is to be announced, smaller version is what has been in production and use by WA forces recently to great success.
• Ultra Large Airships
• Condor Dropship (Troop Transporter variant of ACP-1 Sentinel, expected to carry a platoon or two of soldiers, possibly to rapidly ferry heavy armor units such as the Merkava and Sabra to land).

--TBA, Used or described elsewhere--
• Hive-class AUSV Deployment Submarine (older version of the Swarm-class recently deployed in weapons testing run by Sambizie), include 8 IV5-AUSVs (Improved Variant 5- Autonomous Undersea Strike Vehicle)
• Improved HARMR-seeker platforms (Cruise Missiles and possibly using a dual Frag/EMP warhead)
• Trimaran Carriers (more specs and prices)
• SBV (selling specs and final weapons numbers)
• Specs for WA UCAVs (advanced specs for previously-mentioned UAVs, UCAVs, UCARs, UARs, etc. SEE first post in thread)
• Achzarit Mk. 1 APC
• Zelda II APC
• Many, many, other things...Shavit boosters, helicopters, warships, etc.

NOTE: This is a formal notice that all items in this post, and all others offered in this thread, are now patented or remain patented if they are not OpenTech.

Western Asia

08-07-2003, 07:28

*ahem* (since you're still on....)

Omz222

08-07-2003, 07:30

I'll get somethin to satisfy your money needs :P

100x AH-1Z UltraCobra

Western Asia

08-07-2003, 10:38

I'll get somethin to satisfy your money needs :P

100x AH-1Z UltraCobra

100 X AH-1Z UltraCobra@$12.5M (standard price)= $1.25 Billion

With S&H charges included and some discounts, your total comes to $1.26 Billion dollars. Thanks for choosing GIAI for your helicopter needs. It has been a pleasure.

There will be 2 shipments of 50 units each. The first will depart tomorrow evening and the second 3 weeks after that (RLT= ~1 day and 2 days from now, respectively).

imported_Celeborne

08-07-2003, 11:38

We are very interested in your "sound" guns.

Omz222

08-07-2003, 16:15

Money wired. thx!

Western Asia

08-07-2003, 20:36

Celeborne, if you need any information about the units we will be happy to provide it to you.

09-07-2003, 03:04

is it just me or does western asia sound like an oxie moron? I refer to it as Asia Minor

Omz222

09-07-2003, 03:04

is it just me or does western asia sound like an oxie moron? I refer to it as Asia Minor
It is just you.

Western Asia

09-07-2003, 08:51

is it just me or does western asia sound like an oxie moron? I refer to it as Asia Minor
OOC:
Well....yes, sorta. But most people recognize the Anatolian area as "Asia Minor" when, properly, all of the ME (down to about the Sinai Peninsula...on one side or the other) is part of the greater continent of Asia. I just liked how Western Asia sounded vs. Asia Minor....meh.

Answer: no, what Omz said is correct.

If I'm still making sense, you're drunk, high, or otherwise in an altered state. :wink:

BTW, it's "oxymoron"

Western Asia

11-07-2003, 03:14

----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>R&D Progress Report: The Western Asian Strategic Transport Development Effort (WA-STDE)<<<<

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Ever since its creation, the military of Western Asia, organized under the IDF, has sought to develop technologies that will ensure the safety of Western Asia's citizens and unfortunate people around the world.

A major part of this effort has concerned the rapid movement of soldiers, humanitarian workers, materiel, and equipment rapidly and easily around the world to support Western Asia's continuing commitment to international affairs. And the answer produced by IDF long-term planning committees is the Western Asian Strategic Transport Development Effort (WA-STDE)—a multi-tiered and multi-purposed development project that covers almost every

One of the centerpieces of the project, the PelicanULTRA, which has the capacity to move tremendous amounts of equipment and supplies at a comparably rapid pace (in relation to the only other craft that could move such loads--heavy transport ships), has been in development for decades as technology has sought to "catch up" with the demands of the design. The Pelican has also spawned a smaller sibling, the AlbatrossLSTRA, which is on the drawing boards (see below for more information on both craft).

Another major project, which has drawn significant attention over the many years of development and small-scale production, is the High Speed Vessel. Based on a Catamaran design that ranges in carrying capacity between about 1,400 and 300 soldiers (depending on test model), the HSV has been found to be very adept at both peace time goods transporters and wartime special purpose craft. 2 models are expected to enter mass production with standardized configurations. The older testbed craft, which are well-liked by their crews and those that have had contact with them, will be retired or refitted to meet the Fleet Standard Baseline (FSB) for the HSV. (Again, more information follows).

Some of the newest developments in aviation, namely the successful ACP-1 project, have lead to new tactical transport designs such as the "Condor Dropship," which boasts a tremendous capacity to ferry men and machines from off-shore vessels to beachheads and landing areas. Many tests of modified "Sentinel" chassis have been reported as "tremendous," "delightful," and "a vision of the future," by IDF commanders that have witnessed testing and development flights of the Condor.

When these craft are all released it is estimated that WA will be able to deploy up to an entire armored Marine Division within 36-48NST hours with supplies for 72 hours of operation. And in less than a NST week to have deployed several divisions along with extensive support services for many months’ worth of continuous operations.

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The Following Section is Devoted to Updates on the Development and Production of the WA-STDE

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PelicanULTRA (Ultra Large Transport Aircraft) WIG craft

The first reports of the PelicanULTRA were originally distributed over 40 NS years ago but it is only in the interim strong concentrations on high-torque and hp engines (and in synthetic, advanced materials) that the design was able to, literally, "get off of the ground."

In other aeronautics news, a massive, ground-effect transporter is on the boards of GIAI planners, called the "Pelican," this massive plane would be able to air-lift large loads across oceans or continents at only a few meters above the surface, thus exploiting the "ground effect" that provides low-flying craft with an air cushion that cuts down on the required fuel loads for such a craft, which can fly at hundreds of miles an hour.

Outline of final specs.
Title: Pelican Superheavy WIG Cargo Lifter (PSWIG-CL) Mk. 1
Speed: 300+ mph
Mass: 3.2 million pounds (empty, full fuel load)
Range: 12,000 mi (loaded, at WIG altitudes)
Engines: 4, 80,000hp turbine (turboprop) engines (which are more efficient than standard jet engines). Using 50ft dia, 8-bladed, counter-rotating propellers (4 at each of 2 levels).

Dimensions:
-----Length: 400 ft
-----Breadth: 500 ft

Cargo, Capacity, and Use:
-----Carrying Capacity: 2.8 Million pounds (1,400 tons) of cargo.
-----Storage Area: 2 decks with a combined area of 29,000 sq ft
-----Cargo Equivalent: about 180 standard 8X8X20 cargo containers or 17 Abrams M1A1s and many containers.
-----Functional Altitudes: Functions in the WIG (ground-effect) range of 20-50ft (wing-tip to seasurface) or up to about 20,000 ft
-----Functionality of Use: Unlike the Soviet ekranoplan it doesn't require any heavy plating and can land well inland. Paved and decently-supported runways are a MUST, since it can reach up to almost 6million pounds at take off. The issues and effects of so great a mass are being evaluated although the first Pelican is almost completed. The outer wing sections fold up for ease of use in airports (outer 2/5, 1/5 on a side).

- PelicanULTRA WIG craft
About 2-3 RL months in the making (see my tech thread), it's coming out IG now). Can carry over a dozen tanks plus a great deal of supplies. Slow plane and vulnerable to enemy craft, but a few will move forces relatively quickly in comparison to ships. The draw back is the need for prepared run-way that can manage the great mass of the plane and cargo. Long range thanks to WIG effect. To go on sale, expensive as hell (about as much as a boat with equivalent storage capacity, a deal when time is considered), but worth it.
A smaller version of the Pelican, the Albatross, is in the works as well. All patented WA tech, design, and concept.

Updates on this will follow in the coming weeks.

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AlbatrossLSTRA (Large Scale Transport Aircraft) WIG craft

A mid-range aircraft in style of Pelican but somewhat closer to the size of a 747, but still significantly larger (1/2 to 3/4 the size of the full PelicanULTRA). Meant to deal with larger transportation issues to locations not capable of supporting PelicanULTRAs or not necessitating the use of a PelicanULTRA.

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Test Form (Box-wing) Strategic Airlift Widebody Transport and Tanker Aircraft (TFbw-SAWBT2A)

A classified-design Strategic Airlift Airplane (widebody transport and tanker craft). Uses the patented Western Asian "Box-wing" form to allow for added capabilities in all of its roles. Undergoing alpha-level declassification, which will permit greater details, including images of the craft, to be released to the public. The project has also passed under the title of the "KC-X Advanced Mobility Aircraft" as a "Next Gen" form of the KC-767 Common Widebody Tanker & Transport aircraft that is set to be fielded by the IDF Air Force in the coming months (which has AWACs and MC2A configurations as well as the previously-mentioned Tanker and Transport configurations).

In either manner, the Box-wing design (patent pending) is set to meet the requirements for a Global-range support aircraft (having the ability to transport a minimum 50,000 pounds payload over a minimum 12,000 NM range.) Worldwide coverage will require aircraft that can fly 12,000 miles, deliver cargo, and return without refueling at the terminal point. It is expected that the box-wing design will be able to carry up to 150,000 pounds of cargo. Other aircraft in this sector include a rumored Blended Wing Body (BWB) design.

- Classified Strategic Airlift Airplane
Not released yet or otherwise mentioned, a new widebody aircraft for lifting supplies. Jet-based to replace C-141s and KC-135 Tankers.

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High Speed Vessel (HSV) Strategic Sealift Craft

High Speed Vessels/Fast Troop Transporters (HSVs/FTTs) after much delay, specs are on their way...A classification of the larger, originally planned version is to be announced, smaller version is what has been in production and use by WA forces recently to great success.

The HSV uses the proven catamaran ferry design but with upgrades to meet battle survivability demands and longer-range mission requirements.

2 designs (both successfully fielded) will be offered and each will include several configurations including the following:
Basic Cargo Transporter (HSV-BCT), Special Operations Command Ship (SOCS), Fast Troop Transporter (HSV-FTT), Near-shore Hospital/Disaster Relief (NSH/DF).

- High Speed Vessels/Fast Troop Transporters (HSVs/FTTs)
Based on a Catamaran design, can move hundreds of soldiers or many vehicles with relative ease at high speeds. Has a pair of super-heavy cranes for loading/unloading, unloads from the rear and has RO/RO facilities from the rear. Basically a militarized version of a Catamaran ferryboat, larger with a VTOL deck capable of bearing 3-4 medium-sized helicopters (Blackhawks), 2 Large helicopters (Sea Stallions), many smaller helicopters (Little Birds), or 1 Large VTOL craft (a WA Sentinel). I'd promised this to everyone 2 months ago but have been hogging it for myself...I'll change that soon. Again, patented WA tech, design, and concept.

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Ultra Large Airships
o Ultra Large Airships

- Ultra Large Airships
You heard it here first. WA is working on making Heavy-lift airships practical and cheap for use in transporting materials. While the PelicanULTRA will be good for relatively short-time deployments, they will be expensive and could never bear all of the supplies needed for a prolonged or heavy deployment. As one analyst has put it, "when a transport stream is considered, as is the case in any large deployment, once the pipeline is filled the speed becomes largely irrelevant." Along this line of thought, WA seeks to develop several airships with different capacities. The smallest would bear between 150 and 200 tonnes and the heaviest some 1,000 tonnes. Some intermediate size vessels are being discussed.
The SkyCat can also be very useful in transporting civilian goods such as crops and manufactures (800 medium-sized cars could be transported by a single 1,000 tonne lifter). And, as an airship, it can load and unload in large fields with minimal preparation, opening up operations and allowing important airfields to remain clear for conventional aircraft or Pelicans.
The speed is only about 100mph (hoping to boost that to about 140mph), but it is worth it when you need to move large amounts of goods. Again, patented WA tech, design, and concept.

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Condor VTOL Dropship Craft
o Condor Dropship (Troop Transporter variant of ACP-1 Sentinel, expected to carry a platoon or two of soldiers, possibly to rapidly ferry heavy armor units such as the Merkava and Sabra to land).

Condor Dropship
The working designation for the ACP-1 Sentinel craft recently introduced. Would feature reduced weapons capacity, a larger body, and an additional set of pylon-mounted engines (bringing the count up to 6 pylon engines with 2 centerline dedicated VTOL engines). Would be able to transport a platoon or more of soldiers with light vehicles or a squadron of Main Battle Tanks (3-4 tanks) or some such heavy vehicles.
Specs are being finalized along with the specs for the Sentinel and will be released at the same time. Again, patented WA tech, design, and concept. Again, patented WA tech, design, and concept.

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NOTE: This is a formal notice that all items in this post, and all others offered in this thread, are now patented or remain patented if they are not OpenTech.
OOC NOTE: This post will be the source for info on developments in the WA Strategic Transport craft. Other posts will possibly reference this posting but this posting will contain as much central information as I see fit.

imported_Celeborne

11-07-2003, 13:29

Celeborne, if you need any information about the units we will be happy to provide it to you.

Please send info, we would be interested in purchasing some of these for our off-world police force.

Western Asia

13-07-2003, 11:04

Celeborne,

Sound "Gun"
A researcher explained the system to us in this exclusive report:
"Indeed the gun stuns a person by concentrating high-intensity sounds right at or near them. This is effectively creating a localized shock wave that will not affect many other parts of the surroundings. As the ultrasound waves (2 beams, slightly different frequencies, HUGE intensity/amplitudes) encounter the non-linearity of the air they "split" into multiple frequencies. If you do it right, the top of one will match with the bottom of the other at the correct distance and your target will experience an...unique effect. Sure, it'll stun someone, possibly even knocking them unconscious or bursting their eardrums (if they're REALLY unlucky). But that is secondary. It won't kill someone unless they had a building aneurysm or some other medical issue that might be triggered by the shock.

It works in air but might not work in water as the properties of sound are quite different in water (sound travels faster so an entirely re-calibrated system would have to be devised with REALLY STRONG emitters). As for space, it won't work there either."

There are now two major varieties of my LLW-SG (Less Lethal Weapon-Sound Gun), which is marketed under the brand SoundBlaster™ by a Western Asian company

The SG-23 SoundBlaster™ System
Features
The older version described previously has since been improved, it is a 5lb hand-held device that looks something like a miniature solar array. The main device is a somewhat flat emitter array, about 9"X6"X1 3/4", has a tough composite material shell and strong handle (smoothly merged at both ends with the rest of the shell. The handle includes a joystick-style trigger and has a short support "stick" that extends from the bottom of the handle to the fore arm (where it can be strapped on) to help reduce user wrist fatigue.

An optional bullpup-style stock can be purchased separately for $35 that is made of the same tough composite materials but allows your law enforcement agents to hold the array like a rifle—the stock attaches to the unit at the top of the handle so that the hand is in the same positioning as your soldiers would be used to having with an assault rifle.

Targeting takes place with a laser range-finder that automatically adjusts the frequency and power of the outgoing sound waves, to adjust the location of the generated "shockwave." The system also has sensors that will detect air pressure (or water pressure) so that the system can automatically adjust to those conditions as well.

Some digital control features are integrated into the back of the array, these controls can modify the range, the power, and other variables that are vitally important via a small touch-screen on the back. The system is connected to a 4lb battery that can be worn like on the belt or stuck in a rucksack for almost constant use over a period of 24 hours with a 2 week "standby" capacity before recharging is necessary…but that is if the unit is never turned off. The handheld unit alone can be used for approximately 5 minutes of continued use or 6hours of standby time, but the battery is included. Please note that while the optional stock is in use that the battery can be attached to the stock (a recessed section is designed integrate the full array of parts smoothly).

The unit is very sturdy and extensive drop and durability tests have shown that the unit will work well under a great variety of situations (bullet strikes tend to disable the unit if they hit in vital areas but even a strike in a non-vital area can ruin the weapon if the sound array is damanged, for this reason use after such damage is highly warned against.

For safety and accountability, each SG-23 unit records the settings on the weapon during use and other important information like altitude, time, date, and user ID.

There is a good deal of training that needs to occur to avoid several problems that can make this Less Lethal Weapons System into a very lethal weapons system, but training can usually be completed by a simple 2-day seminar that includes a certification exam. The certification exam involves both a written/oral section on theoretical use and a practical section where the trainee uses the weapon on sensor-equipped targets (see below) to ensure a full and proper knowledge of the device. Certification is followed up by an annual re-certification that involves only a half-day of work and is mostly just the re-administration of the certification exam (questions and tasks modified each year to ensure a real understanding of the subject matter). It's fairly complicated circuitry and needs exact fitting to allow the range and power to be adjusted, it also has intensive safety precautions that places limits on the creation of the pressure blast.

Costs:
The SG-23 runs at $720/unit, which includes the battery. An extra battery unit comes in at $40 and the optional stock costs $35 (a non-bullpup stock can be provided for $40).

Training courses for instructors (we’ll teach some of your people to administer the training and re-certification seminars) come in at $1,500/instructor for a 2-week training course that includes lessons in the technical aspects of the weapon that can allow for simple repairs to be completed.

The target dummies have sophisticated pressure sensors and connect to a simple laptop that monitors the effects, one computer can monitor 5 target dummies at once (and file the results for certain trainees into set files). Price of one computer and 2 target dummies: $4,500; Price for additional target dummies: $2,100/unit; Price for additional "laptop" computer units: $410.

The SG-34 SoundBlaster™ System
Features
An innovative approach to crowd control, the SG-30 series was a development of the SG-20-series of Focused Sound Burst Less-Lethal Weapons (FSBL2Ws). While the 20’s were designed for use against hostile suspects, suspicious infiltrators, and other times when lethal or likely lethal force is not an option—neither is the sacrifice of personal safety for security personnel, the 30-series was developed in response to the mentioned use of an array of 20-series of FSBL2Ws to control large angry or hostile crowds.

The system is specifically modified to provide a wide field of effect with a minimum of focal points where unaccountable factors might push the system past the lethal limit for living organisms.

The SG-34 has the surface area of a standard "riot shield" but it is about 5 inches thick and weighs 20lbs. Although it is so heavy, it is not meant to be an extremely mobile system. The unit sets up thanks to sturdy supports that fold down from the main unit. The power source associated with the unit is 8lbs but it fastens onto the system at the base and has similar time-until-recharge periods to its smaller cousin, the SG-23, which makes maintenance and use of the units that much easier.

The possible area effect of the unit is 100yards deep (from the apex of the system’s curve to the furthest point, measured in a straight line) and continues with that power through the full projection arc. The force can be shifted from that of a slight "bumping" to a full-power "burst" that risks the possibility of semi-permanent or permanent ear damage to the affected--that burst will knock over everyone affected by it. Clear controls similar to those placed on the SG-23 are on the rear of the device.

NOTE: More than one of these devices should never be targeted and used on a specific area due to issues concerning the concentration constructive and destructive signals due to the interference patterns generated by this focused use of more than one array. Several arrays can be lined up and linked to create a "traveling wave" effect along a front of an angry crowd or mob but they should never be allowed to cause such interference patterns (when linked, the system automatically adjusts the horizontal limits of the emitted fields and adjusts to minimize the overlaps.

In addition to the features specifically mentioned for this device, the SG-34 also bears all of the safety, usage, and training issues mentioned in the description of the SG-23. The training costs are the same (but the training is different) and the dummies are interchangeable.

Costs
The SG-34 runs at $1,500/unit, which includes the rechargeable battery. An extra rechargeable battery unit comes in at $80.

Western Asia

13-07-2003, 21:52

*bump*

imported_Celeborne

15-07-2003, 12:51

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imported_Celeborne

25-07-2003, 11:42

Western Asia

25-07-2003, 22:36

Iwould like to purchase 150,000 The SG-23 SoundBlaster™ System with stocks and training for 1500 who wil later train the rest of my teams.

I would also like 50 of the crowd control systems.

Finally , the purfect weapon for space station ploice forces !

Well, that is quite an order!

Weapons Order
150,000 X SG-23 SoundBlaster™ Systems@ $720/unit= $108 million
50 X SG-34 SoundBlaster™ Systems@ $1,500/unit= $75,000

Training and Training Systems Order
1500 students in 30 person classes = 50 educational classes.
It takes 2 instructors to teach a 30 person 2-week class ($3,000)

We estimate that, from your order numbers, you’ll only want one of those class sections to be on the SG-34 SoundBlaster™ System, which means that 30 of your people will be initially trained in the use of that system, with the ability to teach others.

At 1 practice system for 2 class groups (shared, since a lot of practice and hands-on experience is an important part of the training), that will be 25 Practice and training systems (can be set up in a heavily specialized "soundgun range").

50 X SG SoundBlaster™ Training course (2 instructors/course)@ $3,000/course= $150,000

25 X SG SoundBlaster™ Training Systems (1 management computer and 2 practice targets)@ $4,500= $1,125,000

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Total Price/Cost: $181.25 million dollars.

You can either arrange matters so that my instructors are transported to your space stations by your craft or so that your trainees are transported to WA, where they well be trained in the SoundBlaster™ line of systems and where your craft will, returning to your stations, retrieve the requested units. The cost for instructors does not change if you want all of the training to be done simultaneously or if you want the training to be spread over a certain period of time, but you are expected to cover any costs associated with taking them off-planet (including meals and boarding there, although that is not required for on-planet training). The 50 SG-34 SoundBlaster™ Systems can be collected next month (tomorrow) and the 150,000 SG-23 SoundBlaster™ Systems can be collected over the next few years (max automated production rate is only 10,000/month, so 150,000 units would take 15 months to fill). Training can be begun as soon as 2-weeks from today (tonight, RLT).

Thank you for choosing SoundBlaster™ Systems, Inc. for your LLW law enforcement systems.

Western Asia

27-07-2003, 10:24

----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>Tech Profiles: Jammer/EW Aircraft, the EA-6B "Prowler" and the F/A-18IG/EA-18 "Growler" (Also, the baseline F/A-18IE/F Super Hornet)<<<<

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Western Asia is embarking upon a number of Aircraft Acquisition Renewal Plans in a drive to field improved and/or modernized versions of common aircraft. In an attempt to reduce the price of the craft, the foreign sales of many of these systems has been approved. These systems include the F/A-18IE/F Super Hornet and the EA-6B ICAP II Block 89A "Prowler" EW/ECM aircraft. A part of the F/A-18IE/F Acquisition Renewal Program (F/A-18IE/F ARP) includes the development of a replacement AEA/EW/ECM aircraft based on the F/A-18IF Super Hornet, which will be known as the F/A-18IG "Growler" (alternate ID coding is the EA-18, which continues the EA-line of aircraft).

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The EA-6B ICAP II Block 89A "Prowler"
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EA-6B Prowler is a unique national asset that can be deployed from land bases and aircraft carriers to monitor the electromagnetic spectrum and actively deny an adversary the use of radar and communications. The EA-6B is a unique, high-demand low-volume (HDLV) national asset that provides electronic attack for the IDF on many fronts. The EA-6B Prowler was designed to complement the WA Navy's defenses in today's electronic warfare environment. Electronic countermeasures required improvement to compete with the ever-increasing complexity of hostile radar-guided guns, missiles and aircraft. The Prowler was the first aircraft built from the drawing boards to fulfill the role of an electronic warfare aircraft. The EA-6B Prowler is included in every aircraft carrier deployment.

The EA-6B "Prowler" has had a long history as an aircraft, originating from the A-6 first as the A-6B and later as the EA-6B, and it has been a notable story. The utility of the Prowler cannot be overestimated and the presence of at least one such craft is almost considered to be an "essential part" of any strike mission. The Prowler has proven its abilities to work both in concert with other aircraft and as a solo plane for special missions. Now, GIAI is offering this craft for public sale. The Craft offered is the "complete" version used by WA’s IDF in both naval air strike forces and air force strike teams, craft will be randomly slotted to whoever’s order may be next on the list—whether that is WA or any other country is not of matter.

EA-6B ICAP II Block 89A "Prowler" Specs
Manufacturer: Greater Israel Aircraft Industries
Crew: 4

Power plant: Two GIMC J52-P408 turbofan engines
Thrust: 11,200 pounds (4,767 kilograms) per engine

Length: 59 feet (17.98 meters)
Height: 15 feet (4.57 meters)
Wing span: 53 feet (16.15 meters)

Speed: Maximum .99 mach
Cruise .72 mach

Ceiling: 40,000 feet - maximum (12,186 meters)
37,600 feet - Service ceiling

Performance: 2,750 ft - Minimum take-off distance
2,185 ft - Minimum landing distance

Weight 33,600 lbs - Empty
61,500 lbs - Maximum TOGW (27,921 kilograms)
15,422 lbs - Internal fuel
10,000 lbs - External fuel
4,000 lbs - External fuel (typical)

Range: Unrefueled in combat configuration: 850 nautical miles (977.5 miles)
Ferry range (5 drop tanks) 1,747 nm
Refueled: unlimited (crew fatigue factor - approximately 8 hours)

Armament: ALQ-99 Tactical Jamming System (TJS);
High Speed Anti-Radiation Missile (HARM)/Advanced Anti- Radiation Guided Missile (AARGM)
High Speed Anti-Radiation Missile-Radio (HARMR), A
RAFAEL/GIAI/El Op collaborative effort.
(5 Hardpoints: Generally 2 for HARM missiles/drop tanks/bombs and 3 for systems pods/drop tanks.)

Sensors: ALQ-99 On-board System (OBS)

Systems Upgrade level: ICAP II Block 89A (Soon to be ICAP III)

>ICAP II Block 89A Upgrade Info<
* The Embedded Global Positioning System Inertial Navigation Unit (EGI) replaces the current AN/ASN-50 Compass System.
* The upgraded AN/AYK-14 Central Mission Computer is further upgraded from the current Single Card Processor module to a Very High Speed Integrated Circuit Processor Module.
* The AN/ARC-210 UHF/VHF Radio Set replaces the AN/ARC-182 UHF/VHF Radio Set.
* The Control Display Navigation Unit (CDNU) replaces the MAGR and the Control Display Indicator (CDI).

The ICAP II Block 89A communication system is designed around two ARC-210's in the front and one ARC-182 in the back. In addition to being capable of the same communication frequency ranges as the ARC-182, the ARC-210's also have integrated HAVEQUICK and SINCGARS functions. Another nice feature about the ARC-210's is that they are integrated with the control display navigation unit (CDNU) to control the radios (all three of them) from a "Radio" page on the CDNU. Navigation system upgrades are also very substantial. The primary navigation sensor is the Litton CN-1649(V)4/ASN-172 Embedded GPS/INS (EGI). This unit combines the Litton LN-100G strapdown inertial unit with a GPS receiver. The result is that the system, or the aircrew, can select from four possible navigation solutions from this one unit -- a pure inertial, GPS, filtered inertial, or filtered inertial solution with GPS aiding. Most of the testing used the filtered inertial solution with GPS aiding, called Blended/Coupled, because it was typically the most accurate. This mode allowed the Prowler to navigate with an accuracy of about 16 m (52 ft), a big improvement. The ASN-130 is still in the aircraft as the secondary attitude and navigation source with all the capability it has always had. The 89A also features an improved databus structure that allows the CDNU to integrate many things like the radios, RADAR cursor, both navigation sensors%cpl-oute control, HARM control, WRA BIT, and current navigation and attitude information.

Software improvements to the AGM-88 High-Speed Antiradiation Missile (HARM) have created the Block IIIA and V missile from the Block III and IV hardware. To ensure continued EA-6B compatibility, OFP's SSA 5.2 and 89A 1.0 have been developed by the Weapons System Support Activity. Both are baselined from 5.1 COD, will include HARM III/IIIA/IV/V, and are supported by the same TEAMS release. Two successful live fires of IIIA and V missiles from Block 89A aircraft were made in September 1998 and were followed this winter by Block 82/89 live fires. The differences in the OFP software was nearly transparent to the fleet when Block 89A's began arriving. The 89A 1.0 OFP has been optimized for the Block 89A avionics architecture that includes a second 1553 navigation bus and CDNU bus control.

Acquisition Price per Unit: $52 million

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The next Prowler upgrade, the ICAP III, is expected to be introduced within the next few years and will serve as an interim craft as the EA-18 "Growler" system is developed and deployed to Western Asian Naval Fleet aircraft carriers and Western Asian Air Force bases. Follow-on craft will include the mentioned "Growler" as well as UAVs and/or UCAVs modified to carry out AEA duties.

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F/A-18IG "Growler"/EA-18 Airborne Electronic Attack Aircraft

Since the older EA-6B craft are limited in both number and scope, while in very high demand, the F/A-18IF (our version of the F/A-18F, the 2-seater version of the F/A-18E) Super Hornet is being developed into a new platform for Advanced Electronic Attack (AEA).

The EA-18 will perform full-spectrum electronic surveillance and electronic attack of enemy threat radars and communications nets. The EA-18 leverages the U.S.W.A. Navy's investment in the F/A-18IE/F Super Hornet platform. A derivative of the two-seat F/A-18IF Super Hornet – a platform which is in production today – the EA-18 is a highly flexible design that enables the warfighter to perform a broad range of tactical missions, operating from either the deck of an aircraft carrier or land-based fields. The EA-18 is 99 percent common with the Super Hornet and would be expected to significantly reduce support and training costs for the Western Asian Navy.

The airplane, though dedicated to the electronic attack mission, can be changed from an EA back to an ‘F’ with relative ease and vice versa. It allows flexibility on the flight deck. You can use up a certain portion of the life of the airplane flying it as an electronic attack airplane, and then shift missions, and use another section as a fighter.

The EA-18 will retain everything in it that the F/A-18IF Super Hornet has today with two exceptions. The wing tip stations will have receiving antennas. The gun will be replaced with avionics boxes containing the LR-700 receiver and satellite communications, which interface with the ALQ-99 Tactical Jamming System pods.

The EA-18 is based on the two-seat F/A-18IF with the Block 2 avionics upgrades, including active-array radar and advanced rear crew station, already under development for the Super Hornet.

Target price of the unit is about $44 million, but the current cost is (price revised from $59m thanks to large foreign interest) $54million (based on the projected price of the upcoming F/A-18IE/F Acquisition Renewal Program, but costs should fall significantly if the EA-18 actually enters production with the rest of the F/A-18IF aircraft).

A real benefit arrives in the use of the system: The EA-18 is expected to cost $7,400/h to operate, compared with over S17,000/h for the EA-6B.

Until the F/A-18G/EA-18 enters production, the ICAP III capability upgrade of the EA-6B will be initiated and the possibility of using one of our existing UAV lines as an AEA aircraft will be pursued as well. Even after the "Growler" enters production, the craft will not be used to completely replace the then- EA-6B ICAP III craft, but rather will be used in somewhat different roles.

(SPECS: See F/A-18IE/F Specs Below)

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The F/A-18IE/F Super Hornet
Although the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet has been used by Western Asia for several years (as has the F/A-18IC/D Hornet) in the ‘I’ designation (F/A-18IF, F/A-18IE), the original limited-term production contract is coming to an end in the next few months. The ‘E’ is the standard single-seater while the ‘F’ is a two-seater that allows for a co-pilot who can deal with special payloads, special missions (such as with the "Growler"), or can simply be used to help pilots acclimate to the F/A-18E systems.

Western Asia’s IDF has delegated new funding (now approved in the upcoming fiscal year budget for the IDF by Western Asia’s Parliament) for the F/A-18IE/F Acquisition Renewal Program (F/A-18IE/F ARP), which will permit the WANF and the WAAF branches of the IDF to continue the purchasing of these craft to replace some of the older F/A-18I (F/A-18C/D) Hornets and to fill out the WANF and WAAF Force-Wide Aircraft Deployment Plan. Although the Super Hornet generallt costs some $60million per unit (versus the $39.5 million of the Hornet), it is believed that the costs will be much less under the F/A-18IE/F ARP, thanks to the lack of initial production side costs (such as building the factories to match) and due to improvements in aircraft manufacturing that have been gained from recent studies on UAVs and other craft. In the end, the cost is related to be only $52 million under the F/A-18IE/F ARP, but the simultaneous production of the F/A-18IG "Growler" system is expected to cut the costs significantly (more so if foreign militaries decide to request versions of the Super Hornet)…Reportedly the costs could fall to a mere $40 million if enough interest is seen.

The multi-mission F/A-18E/F "Super Hornet" strike fighter is an upgrade of the combat-proven night strike F/A-18C/D. The Super Hornet will provide the battle group commander with a platform that has range, endurance, and ordnance carr lin capabilities comparable to the A-6 which have been retired.

The F/A-18E/F aircraft are 4.2 feet longer than earlier Hornets, have a 25% larger wing area, and carry 33% more internal fuel which will effectively increase mission range by 41% and endurance by 50%. The Super Hornet also incorporates two additional weapon stations. This allows for increased payload flexibility by mixing and matching air-to-air and/or air-to-ground ordnance. The aircraft can also carry the complete complement of "smart" weapons, including the newest joint weapons such as JDAM and JSOW.

The Super Hornet can carry approximately 17,750 pounds (8,032 kg) of external load on eleven stations. It has an all-weather air-to-air radar and a control system for accurate delivery of conventional or guided weapons. There are two wing tip stations, four inboard wing stations for fuel tanks or air-to-ground weapons, two nacelle fuselage stations for Sparrows or sensor pods, and one centerline station for fuel or air-to-ground weapons. An internal 20 mm M61A1 Vulcan cannon is mounted in the nose.

Carrier recovery payload is increased to 9,000 pounds, and its engine thrust from 36,000 pounds to 44,000 pounds utilizing two GIMC F414 turbo-fan engines. Although the more recent F/A-18IC/D aircraft have incorporated a modicum of low observables technology, the F/A-18IE/F was designed from the outset to optimize this and other survivability enhancements.

The Hughes Advanced Targeting Forward-Looking Infra-Red (ATFLIR), the baseline infrared system for the F/A-18IE/F, will also be deployed on earlier model F/A-18Is. The Hughes pod features both navigation and infrared targeting systems, incorporating third generation mid-wave infrared (MWIR) staring focal plane technology.

Although 41% interdiction mission range increase may be the most notable F/A-18IE/F improvement, the ability to recover aboard with optimal reserve fuel and a load of precision strike weapons, is of equal importance to the battle group commander. The growth potential of the F/A-18IE/F is more important to allow flexible employment strategies in future years. If an electronically scanned array antenna or another installation-sensitive sensor or weapon system becomes available, the F/A-18IE/F has the space, power and cooling to accommodate it. The all-F/A-18IC/D/E/F air wing brings an increase in capability to the carrier battle group while ensuring the potential to take advantage of technological advances for years to come.

Features of the F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet:

--90% Common F/A-18C/D Avionics—
Avionics and software have a 90 percent commonality with current F/A-18C/Ds. However, the F/A-18E/F cockpit features a touch-sensitive, upfront control display; a larger, liquid crystal multipurpose color display; and a new engine fuel display.

--34 in. Fuselage Extension—
The fuselage is slightly longer - the result of a 34-inch extension.

--Two Additional Multi-Mission Weapons Stations—
Super Hornet has two additional weapons stations, bringing the total to 11. For aircraft carrier operations, about three times more payload can be brought back to the ship.

--25% Larger Wing—
A full 25 percent bigger than its predecessor, Super Hornet has nearly half as many parts (42% fewer structural parts).

--35% Higher Thrust Engines—
Increased engine power comes from the F414-GIM-400, an advanced derivative of the Hornet's current F404 engine family. The F414 produces 35 percent more thrust and improves overall mission performance. Enlarged air inlets provide increased airflow to the engines.

--33% Additional Internal Fuel—
Structural changes to the airframe increase internal fuel capacity by 3,600 pounds, or about 33 percent. This extends the Hornet's mission radius by up to 40 percent.

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COCKPIT
The cockpit in the F/A-18IE/F is equipped with a touch-sensitive control display, a larger multi-purpose liquid-crystal color display which shows tactical information, two monochrome displays and a new engine fuel display. The aircraft retains the mission software and a high proportion of the avionics found in the C/D models.

The cockpit also has a color digital map and the pilots are equipped with night vision goggles. The zero/zero ejection seat is the SJU-5/6 from Martin Baker Aircraft Company Ltd.

WEAPONS
The Super Hornet has eleven weapon stations, which include two additional wing store stations and will support a full range of armaments including AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-7 Sparrow and AIM-120 AMRAAM air-to-air missiles, guided air-to-ground weapons such as Harpoon, SLAM, GBU-10, HARM, and Maverick; and free-fall air-to-ground bombs, Mk-76, BDU-48,Mk-82LD, Mk-82HD, and Mk-84. The aircraft can also carry the GPS/inertially guided JDAM (Joint Direct Attack Munition) and JSOW (Joint StandOff Weapon).

Vision Systems International (jointly owned by Kaiser and Elbit) has received a contract to provide the Joint Helmet-Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS) for the Super Hornet, to be fitted to Block 2 and retrofitted to Block 1 aircraft.

The F/A-18IE/F new lightweight gun system is the General Dynamics M61A2, which has a firing rate of 7,200 shots per minute and a fully integrated linkless ammunition feed system.

COUNTERMEASURES
The BAE Systems Information & Electronic Warfare Systems (IEWS) (formerly Sanders) AN/ALQ-124 Integrated Defensive Countermeasures system (IDECM) provides a coordinated situation awareness and manages the on-board and off-board deception countermeasures, the expendable decoys, and signal and frequency control of emissions. The IDECM system includes the ALE-47 countermeasures dispenser, the ALE-50 towed decoy and the AN/ALR-67(V)3 radar warning receiver.

The BAE Systems Integrated Defense Solutions (formerly Tracor) ALE-47 countermeasures dispenser system is capable of dispensing chaff cartridges, flares, and the POET and GEN-X active expendable decoys. The ALE-50 Towed Decoy, from Raytheon E-Systems, provides long-range detection and extremely fast deployment against most radar-guided threats. The Raytheon AN/ALR-67(V)3 radar warning receiver intercepts, identifies and prioritises threat signals, which are characterised in terms of frequency, amplitude, direction and pulse width.

SENSORS
The Super Hornet is equipped with the APG-73 radar manufactured by Raytheon. The APG-73 radar has an upgraded processor with increased speed and memory capacity in comparison to the AN/APG-65, which was installed on the earlier builds of the Hornet. The modes of the APG-73 include air-to-ground tracking, air-to-air velocity search mode, range while search and track-while-scan.

Raytheon has been selected to develop an Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) fire control radar which will increase the F/A-18I's air-to-air target detection as well as tracking range and provide higher resolution air-to-ground mapping at longer ranges. AESA is planned to replace the AN/APG-73 from 2006.

The aircraft will be fitted with the Raytheon AN/ASQ-228 ATFLIR (Advanced Targeting Forward-Looking Infrared) precision targeting pod. ATFLIR consists of a 3 to 5 micron staring focal plane array targeting FLIR, BAE Systems Avionics high-powered diode-pumped laser spot tracker, BAE Systems Avionics navigation FLIR and CCD TV camera. Initial Operating Capability (IOC) is scheduled for 2003.

F/A-18IF aircraft will be fitted with the Raytheon SHARP multi-function reconnaissance pod, set to replace USN Tactical Airborne Reconnaissance Pod (TARPS), currently flown on the F-14 Tomcat. SHARP is capable of simultaneous airborne and ground reconnaissance and has sensors manufactured by Recon/Optical Inc. Eight LRIP (low-rate initial production systems) have been ordered and will be deployed from mid-2003.

ENGINES
The aircraft's power is provided by two F414-GIM-400 turbofan engines from General Electric. The engines are an advanced derivative of the GIMC F404 engines installed on the Hornet. The air inlets have been enlarged to provide increased airflow into the engines. The engines each provide 22,000lbs thrust with afterburn giving a maximum speed in excess of Mach 1.8.

The structural changes to the airframe on the F/E variant of the aircraft increase the internal fuel capacity by 3,600lbs, a 33% higher fuel capacity than the F-18IC/D variant. This extends the mission radius by up to 40%.

F/A-18IE/F Super Hornet Specs
Manufacturers: GIAI, Elbit Systems, GIMC

Crew one pilot on the F/A-18/E, two, the pilot and copilot on F/A-18/F

Dimensions
Wing span 44 feet 8 inches
Width wings folded 30 feet 7 inches
Length 60 ft 1 inch
Height 16 feet 0 inches
Weights
Weight empty 30,000 lb
Take-off weight with attack payload 66,000 lb

Performance
Maximum level speed at altitude In excess of Mach 1.8
Max speed, intermediate power More than Mach 1.0
Flight ceiling 50,000 feet
Combat radius 400 nautical miles
Combat endurance 135 minutes
Approach speed 134 knots
Combat radius, interdiction, hi-lo-lo-hi 290 nm
Combat endurance, CAP 150 nm from aircraft carrier 1 h 45 min
Ferry range, unrefueled More than 1,800 nm

Weapons Load-outs:
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Unit Acquisition Price: $55 million (under the F/A-18IE/F ARP); $52 million for foreign sales and under the Revised Price F/A-18IE/F ARP, ensured by the original ARP contract.

imported_Ell

27-07-2003, 10:34

ESAA wishes to employ the services of the IDF to develop an electronic warfare aircraft based on the F-16XL. The neccessary costs will be wired once confirmation is recieved.

Western Asia

27-07-2003, 10:43

Western Asia's President, Secretary of State, and Congress, as well as the IDF General Staff, are happy to continue relations with Ell and GIAI, RAFAEL, and El Op have all been given government approval to continue with the requested development program as an outgrowth of the F/A-18IG "Growler" development program. Progress made there should help defray some of the costs for the continuing Growler program.

OOC: I'm about to re-intro my HARM-Rs as well, once I can finish gathering the old specs...I think I've got most of them. Anyways, it's good to see you again and I'll be happy to work with you on that. The IDF is just my military.

Omz222

27-07-2003, 18:16

We would like:

500 X FA-18IE
300 X EA-6B
300 X FA-18IG

(OOC: I can afford it... Earned over a trillion in an auction.)

Western Asia

27-07-2003, 18:20

OOC: Omz, I can fill your order for the Prowlers and Super Hornets right now (well, later today) but the Growler is still "in the works" (AKA, coming out for full sale in a day or two). I will provide you with the first part of that order now and the Growler part when the Growler begins production...hopefully cutting down the costs. Since this is a large order, I will begin to lower the costs for both the Super Hornet and Growler...thanks for cutting down my base expenses!

Omz222

27-07-2003, 18:21

imported_Celeborne

28-07-2003, 05:53

Thank you for your assistance with our security requirments. Funds have been transfered.

We will send our trainees to you, if you do not mind, as there station point is still under construction.

Western Asia

28-07-2003, 08:48

Celeborne,
Always a pleasure to help a good customer.

Very well, training will begin next week and continue from there. Trainees should come to Palmachim AF Base by your military transports (or Jerusalem International if my commercial transport) and they will be bussed to the training camp outside of Jerusalem from there.

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Omz, your order:
Note: Your contribution has allowed us to reduce the price of the standard Super Hornets to a price of only $53 million per unit, with the Growler coming in at about $54 million.

500 X F/A-18IE Super Hornets (new manufacture)@ $52M/unit= $26bn
300 X EA-6B ICAP II 89a "Prowler" (new manufacture)@ $52M/unit= $15.6bn
300 X F/A-18IG "Growler"@ $54M/unit= $16.2bn

Total: $57.8bn
The aircraft will be delivered in batches of 20 with an average of 1.5months between batches (different models will be delivered simultaneously). The Growler is not set to begin significant production for another 2 months but your order will begin to be filled then. Already, a second Super Hornet/Growler factory is being organized (out of an older JSF factory) so that production can increase to meet your needs.

imported_Celeborne

28-07-2003, 08:58

We will send the trainees. Thank you again.

Omz222

28-07-2003, 15:46

Money wired. Thank you.

This shipping method will allow us to get prepared for a "War simulation".

~Office of Trade
Omzian Joint Forces

imported_Ell

29-07-2003, 00:17

A bare-bones airframe for the F-16XL has been delivered to Western Asia for modification into a E/A-16XL.

(OOC: It would be exaclty the same as the Prowler in terms of electronics.)

Western Asia

29-07-2003, 06:22

Celeborne, Always.

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Omz,
Payment received. Shipments have begun, Growler shipments will begin soon.

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Ell,
The airframe has been received at Palmachim AF Base and modification work is underway to allow jammer system integration. The prototype is expected to be operational for minimal testing within 2 weeks and ready for advanced, aerial, testing within a month. Data should be available to you within 2 months (2 days) and limited production could begin within 3 months, or we could transfer the design and begin to transfer unintegrated and unassembled system components to your factories, but that would be a complicated process for you.

Perhaps we could simply establish a remote integration factory under GIAI/RAFAEL authority in Ell where our workers could complete integration efforts for your jets on-scene?

29-07-2003, 06:23

pics would be nice in here

Western Asia

29-07-2003, 06:37

OOC: This is, admittedly, a very "old-school" thread...so minimal pics. That and I don't have a site/hosting location to post pics and I find it simply morally wrong to actually use established sites for images...thus no images.

If you would like to see a picture of any item then simply ask and a URL will be provided. I have planned on revamping this all into a new master "store" where I'd provide links to pics but I've never gotten to it. New items that I'm working on include that.

Seriously, any query should be answered before I leave for a night/day.

Western Asia

29-07-2003, 07:19

----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>Tech Profiles: Western Asian Unmanned Aircraft Systems<<<<

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One of Western Asia’s earliest development efforts involved the creation and fielding of unmanned aerial vehicles, or UAVs, to support intelligence operations and the parallel use of unmanned combat aerial vehicles, or UCAVs, to improve the abilities of the Western Asian Navy, Marine, Air Force, and Army sections of the IDF as well as the operations of the Shin Bet and Mossad, the primary intelligence agencies of Western Asia.

The partial (unclassified) list of these aircraft, including aircraft that are planned for introduction, follows:

Fixed-Wing UAV Systems
(Note: Classification is "Fixed(wing) Unmanned Aircraft" (FUA))
-- The FUA-2 Pioneer
-- The FUA-3 Hunter
-Standard (FUA-3S/Hunter-S)
-Extended Range (FUA-3ER/Hunter-ER)
-- The FUA-5 Dragon Eye (DE) Interim-Small Unit Remote Scouting System (I-SURSS)
-- The FUA-6 Micro-V
-- The FUA-9 Heron I (Extended Range UAV)
-- The FUA-11 Hermes 1500 (Extended Range UAV)
-- FUA-12 Global Hawk (HALE UAV)
-- The FUA-13 DarkStar (HALE UAV)

UCAV Systems
(Note: Classification is "Armed UAV" (AU))
-- AU-2 Lightning (X-45C)
-- AU-4A Pegasus (X-47A/UCAV-N)
-- AU-4B Pegasus II (UCAV-N/X-47 UOS): http://globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/ucav_a1.jpg, : http://www.invisible-defenders.org/programs/uavs/ng-ucav-n.htm )
-- AU-7 Chariot (UCAV bomber
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Rotary Wing UAV Systems
(Note: Classification title is "Rotary Unmanned AirCraft" (RUAC))
-- The RUAC-5 Fire Scout
-- The RUAC-4 (A160) Hummingbird

"Hybrid" UAV Systems
(Note: Classification title is "Cross-Type UAV" (XTU), additional alternate classifications may also be included.)
-- The XTU-5/CRW-1 Dragonfly (AKA: CRW-UAV, Dragonfly TV-UAV)
-- The XTU-9/TRUC-1 Eagle Eye

The descriptions and specs for many of these aircraft follow in the next section of this report.

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Fixed-Wing UAV Systems
(Note: Classification is "Fixed(wing) Unmanned Aircraft" (FUA))

GIAI FUA-2 Pioneer UAV
Naval and Land Scout and Artillery Target/Effect Spotter Unit
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System Capabilities/Proven Roles
Shipboard/Land-based operations
Target location, verification and selection, Naval Gunfire Support (NGFS), Bomb Damage Assessment

System Developer
The Pioneer UAV system was developed primarily by Greater Israel Aircraft Industries (GIAI) and Pioneer UAV, Inc. Pioneer UAV, Inc (or PUAV, Inc.) is a jointly-owned subsidiary of GIMI, GIAI, Rafael, and El Op. PUAV, Inc. is charged with the actual production, sales management and product development for the Pioneer UAV.

System Overview
The Pioneer Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) system provides real-time intelligence and reconnaissance capability to the field commander. This highly mobile system provides high quality video imagery for artillery or naval gunfire adjustment, battle damage assessment, and reconnaissance over land or sea.
A typical Pioneer system consists of up to 8 air vehicles, a Ground Control Station (GCS), a Tracking Control Unit (TCU), a Portable Control Station (PCS), 4 Remote Receiving Stations (RRS), Pneumatic or Rocket-Assisted Launchers (EM Launchers are in the works), and Shipboard-Net or Land-Based Runway-Arrestment Recovery Systems.

>>Data Links<<
The Pioneer system utilizes a jam resistant, direct sequence spread spectrum uplink command channel at C band. The video and telemetry downlink, also at C band, utilizes a state-of-the-art high-power solid-state amplifier and directional antenna on both the TCU and air vehicle, assuring excellent quality video for the commander in the field. An omnidirectional UHF backup link is provided for redundancy in this key subsystem. During the summer of 2000, PUI and its subcontractors successfully integrated and tested the Tactical Common Data Link (TCDL) on the Pioneer UAV system. Achieving successful lab system integration test and further testing of the TCDL was stopped just short of flight test due to a program decision suspending Pioneer from transitioning to TCS.

>>Air Vehicle<<
The 14-ft-long Pioneer air vehicle is pusher-propeller driven, powered by a 26 hp, two-stroke, twin-cylinder, rear-mounted engine, and carries 49 liters of 100 octane AVGAS. Since 1990, the air vehicle structural components have been modified to incorporate reliability and maintainability improvements including a streamlined fuselage design which results in mission endurance capabilities exceeding six hours.
The 450-lb air vehicle is equipped with high-quality video sensors capable of performing accurate surveillance and reconnaissance missions under adverse environmental and battlefield conditions. Outfitted with autopilot, navigation and communication equipment, and operating in either preprogrammed or manual-control modes, the Pioneer performs its mission in areas where manned aircraft cannot survive.

>>Payloads<<
Currently fielded are the MKD-200A (TV), and MKD-400C (FLIR) gyro stabilized high resolution payloads for day and night or reduced visibility operations, and the 12DS which is a combined EO/FLIR payload for both day and night operations. Previous demonstration programs have successfully integrated a radio-relay package for VHF and UHF frequencies, a meteorological sensor, radiac sensor, chemical detection sensor, mine detection sensor, and COMINT payloads into the Pioneer system.

Images:
TADIRAN MKD-400C (http://www.puav.com/images/p_payload.jpg) WESCAM 12DS (http://www.puav.com/images/p_12ds_payload.jpg)

>>Ground Control Station<<
The heart of the Pioneer system is the GCS-2000. This sophisticated control center directs the UAV throughout the mission from the safety of the highly mobile militarized shelter. Whether land-based or installed onboard ship, the advanced electronics aid in mission planning and efficient execution of the most complex missions.
The GCS consists of three electronics bays manned by two operators. The Pilot Bay includes all controls and displays required for safe effective operation of the airborne vehicle. The Observer Bay provides control and display of the imaging payloads carried by the vehicle. The Tracking Bay displays the UAV position, utilizing data obtained from the Tracking Communication Unit. Technology upgrades and other improvements for the GCS are being fielded.

Image: GCS Console (Observer Bay(L), Tracker Bay (C), Pilot Bay (R))

>>Portable Control Station<<
The Portable Control Station (PCS) provides the external pilot the capability to control the UAV during preflight, launch and recovery operations. Easily transportable in either manpack or S-250 configurations, the PCS is designed to operate UAVs in a designated launch and recovery area, freeing the GCS for other battlefield assignments.

Image: Control Stack (http://uav.navair.navy.mil/images/pioneer/gcscon.jpg)

>>Tracking Communication Unit<<
The Tracking Communication Unit (TCU), housed in a separate S-250 shelter, contains a sophisticated jam-resistant 185-kilometer-(100 nm) range data link. The unmanned TCU contains UAV communication equipment and antennas. The ability to remote the TCU by fiber optic-link up to 1000 meters from the GCS enhances the survivability of the system and operating personnel.

Image: TCU (http://www.puav.com/images/p_tcu.gif)

>>Remote Receiving Stations<<
The small, ruggedized Remote Receiving Station (RRS) provides real-time reception of the UAV video picture at remote locations. This capability allows a field commander to have immediate reconnaissance of an operational area and to view the impact of any changes to his battle plan.

Image: RRS (http://www.puav.com/images/p_rrs.gif)

>>Man-Pack Receiving Station<<
The Man-Pack Receiving System (MRS) is a ruggedized, transportable intelligence computer that receives and displays real-time video and telemetry data from the Pioneer UAV. The MRS comprises a backpack that houses the computer, video receiver and antenna, as well as a lightweight handheld TFT display unit for the display of video, telemetry and map data.
The MRS has proven its capability as a force multiplier with all four services, and in 2000 was placed under contract with the US Navy.

Images:
New Man-Pack Receiving System (tripod mounted); Old RRS system in background on Hummer
MRS (http://www.puav.com/images/p_rrsmrs.jpg)
MRS-2000 (http://www.puav.com/images/p_mrs_ht1.jpg)

>>Tactical Common Data Link<<
The Tactical Common Data Link (TCDL) is a CDL-compatible, low-cost, light-weight, digital data link supporting a wide range of Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance applications. The TCDL emphasizes a modular approach, open-system architecture, COTS and industry standard interfaces. The TCDL operates in Ku band get is interoperable with CDL at 200Kbps forward link and 10.71 Mbps return link rates, and interfaces with the Tactical Control System (TCS). The TCDL for Pioneer application was designed, interfaced and tested in a laboratory system environment. Flight testing of the TCDL for Pioneer has been placed on hold due to the posture of Pioneer and the scheduled fielding of the VTUAV program.

>>Tactical Control System<<
The Tactical Control System is an integrated system of hardware and software functions that allow an operator to plan and program a flight profile into the Pioneer UAV, fly the profile or modify the profile during the mission, receive payload information and exploit the data or imagery transmitted back from the Pioneer UAV. Under the guidance of PEO-W, the TCS will be a ground-control system capable of supporting a family of UAVs.

>>Unmanned Common Automatic Recovery System<<
The Unmanned Common Automatic Recovery System (UCARS) is a 35GHz beacon-tracking system designed to provide automatic take-off and landing in all kinds of conditions. It operates both shipboard and land based, day or night, and in all weather conditions.

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SYSTEM SPECS
>>Air Vehicle<<
Length - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 14.0 ft
Wing Span - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 16.9 ft
Height - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3.3 ft
Max. Gross Wgt. - - - - - - - - - -450.0 lb
Payload Capacity - - - - - - - - - 100.0 lb
Payloads*:
CCD (daylight only)
FLIR (day-night)
Max. Speed - - - - - - - - - - - - - 115.0 mph/110 kts
Cruise Speed - - - - - - - - - - - - 92.0 mph/65 kts
Stall (minimum) Speed - - - - - 52 kts
Max. Altitude - - - - - - - - - - - - 15,000.0 ft
Endurance - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5.5 hrs
Engine - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 26.0 hp
Landing Means - - - - - - - - - - - Net/Arresting
Fuel Capacity - - - - - - - - - - - - 11 gallons
Takeoff Means - - - - - - - - - - - -RATO/Runway (improved: 2000 ft. x 80)
Fuel Type - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AVGAS 100
Radius of Action** - - - - - - - - - 115 miles

*-- Only one at time
**-- Limited by Data Link Range

Data Link
Range: (100 nmi)
Jam Resistant protected
Redundant Uplink 185.0 km

Ground Control Station
S-250/280, Ship Compatible
Two-Man Operation
Hands-Off Flight
Multiple RPV Control
Preprogrammed Flight
Extensive BIT

More Media:
--Still Images
In Flight (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/uav/pioneer/pioneer.jpg)
On RATO (Launch) Stand (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/uav/pioneer/pioneer2.jpg)
On Launch Stand Again (http://uav.navair.navy.mil/images/pioneer/avlaun1.jpg)
Launching (http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/systems/images/pioneer-85p05.jpg)
In Shipboard Arrestor Net (http://uav.navair.navy.mil/images/pioneer/avinre3.jpg)
Arrestor Net Being Lowered (http://uav.navair.navy.mil/images/pioneer/avinre1.jpg)
Low Res (releasable) Image (http://uav.navair.navy.mil/images/pioneer/freeku1.jpg)
Sample Base (http://uav.navair.navy.mil/images/pioneer/avatre1.jpg)
--Video
1.0mb video (http://uav.navair.navy.mil/images/pioneer/Splashmv.avi)- Records boat being hit by a missile.
812kb video (http://uav.navair.navy.mil/images/pioneer/Pnumtcmv.avi)- Records Pioneer UAV launch.
Pioneer Design (http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/systems/images/pioneer_8501.gif)
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User Training Info
(Note: Our mission is to train the most highly qualified Officers and Enlisted Personnel in the operation and maintenance of the FUA-2 Pioneer UAV and its related systems. It is also our mission to develop a school atmosphere that fosters innovation, professionalism and leadership among the staff and students there by aiding in the pursuit of military and personal excellence.)
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Course Information:
Subject USN USMC Duration
Internal Pilot E-4 - E-7 N/A 8 wks
External Pilot E-4 - E-7 E-4 & above 19 wks
Payload Operator E-2 - E-7 E-4 & above 5 wks
GCS Operator* E-4 & above 8 wks
Mission Commander O-1 & above O-1 & above 3 wks

*- USMC only, includes Payload Operator training.

Maintenance Training:

Tech Course AE’s/AT’s 9 wks
Mech Course AD’s/AM’s/AS’s 7 wks[/code:1:781255e66b]

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GIAI FUA-3 Hunter UAV
-- The FUA-3 Hunter
-Standard (FUA-3S/Hunter-S)
-Extended Range (FUA-3ER/Hunter-ER)

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GIAI FUA-5 Dragon Eye I-SURSS UAV
-- The FUA-5 Dragon Eye (DE) Interim-Small Unit Remote Scouting System (I-SURSS)

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GIAI FUA-6 Micro-V UAV

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GIAI FUA-9 Heron I Extended Range UAV

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GIAI FUA-11 Hermes 1500 Extended Range UAV

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GIAI FUA-12 Global Hawk HALE UAV
http://www.invisible-defenders.org/programs/uavs/tier2+.htm

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GIAI FUA-13 DarkStar HALE UAV
http://www.invisible-defenders.org/programs/uavs/tier3-.htm

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[u]UCAV Systems
(Note: Classification is "Armed UAV" (AU))

AU-2 Lightning (X-45C)

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AU-4A Pegasus (X-47A/UCAV-N)

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AU-4B Pegasus II (UCAV-N/X-47 UOS)

http://www.invisible-defenders.org/programs/uavs/ng-ucav-n.htm

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[u]Rotary Wing UAV Systems
(Note: Classification title is "Rotary Unmanned AirCraft" (RUAC))

The RUAC-5 Fire Scout

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The RUAC-4 (A160) Hummingbird

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"Hybrid" UAV Systems
(Note: Classification title is "Cross-Type UAV" (XTU))

n The XTU-5 Canard Rotor/Wing (CRW) Dragonfly UAV (AKA: CRW-UAV, Dragonfly TV-UAV)
The XTU-5/CRW-1 Dragonfly (AKA: CRW-UAV, Dragonfly TV-UAV)

-- The XTU-9/TRUC-1 Eagle Eye
-- The tilt rotor XTU-9 EagleEye UAV(similar form to the V-22 Osprey)

OOC: NOTE THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.

NOTE: All new concepts here (or concepts that I’ve mentioned a while ago but not since) are protected under WA patents. Not covered: The X-45, the X-47A (B IS covered), Dragon Eye, Basic hunter. Please respect all other posted models, if there is an issue/dispute then feel free to TM me and I will respond shortly. In fact, look to Raysia for the best X-45 on the way.

Many of the models here will be sold unless they conflict with the patents/interests of my friends/business partners/allies.

imported_Celeborne

29-07-2003, 10:36

We would like to purchase your "Smart Shell" technology. It would not be resold. We would like to use it for our new fighter.

Western Asia

29-07-2003, 10:41

One other nation has contacted us about this. We will consider both of your requests as equal and provide responses soon. As I told that person, I will sell the tech of the level deployed to Tordor, but no more recent improvements which we may or may not have made since then.

OOC: :wink: I need to set a price and all. I believe that I'll be selling it to the two current interested parties but I need to think a bit.

imported_Celeborne

29-07-2003, 10:43

Fine by us .

imported_Ell

30-07-2003, 05:18

Western Asia

01-08-2003, 01:13

Ell,
The airframe has been received at Palmachim AF Base and modification work is underway to allow jammer system integration. The prototype is expected to be operational for minimal testing within 2 weeks and ready for advanced, aerial, testing within a month. Data should be available to you within 2 months (2 days) and limited production could begin within 3 months, or we could transfer the design and begin to transfer unintegrated and unassembled system components to your factories, but that would be a complicated process for you.

Perhaps we could simply establish a remote integration factory under GIAI/RAFAEL authority in Ell where our workers could complete integration efforts for your jets on-scene?

Yes, that will save both of us a lot of time and money. A site on the outskirts of Auckland has been granted a resource consent for your use.

-ESAA

Ell, the systems have been successfully integrated and systems testing has taken place with the prototype aircraft. No major issues were found with the switching over and GIAI and RAFAEL have begun preparations for the construction of a subsystems plant on the outskirts of Auckland. Construction, if begun soon, should be done in about 6 months (assuming a pre-existing structure for the housing of the factory).

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Omz,
The first shipment of Growlers is now being sent to your country.

imported_Ell

06-08-2003, 23:01

OOC: How much would the new electronics add to the base cost?

Western Asia

08-08-2003, 03:56

OOC: How much would the new electronics add to the base cost?
OOC:
It costs 2 million more by what I did, but a lot of that was to justify my ability to maintain these weapons at a decent cost, vs. actually the 4-6 million more that it could've been said to cost. You can make it more expensive since it took some special modification.

imported_Ell

08-08-2003, 13:28

ESAA would like to know the cost per unit if the electronic equipment was produced in WA, exported to Ell, and assembled in Ell.

Western Asia

08-08-2003, 17:31

The components produced in WA would cost approx. $1.8m for a full set (all necessary components) and the rest of the modification process (since the units are being produced locally in Ell by the GIAI/RAFAEL subsystems plant on the outskirts of Auckland) might take as little as a few hundred thousand or as much as a few million dollars to complete. The costs will definitely be lower for installation on units that have the systems integrated during initial construction as your craft will be.

With profit-taking accounted for the additional cost per unit should sit at $2.2-5.8 million (depending on profit and labor costs).

OOC: I don't know the base cost of the F-16XL. Am I missing something?

Omz222

08-08-2003, 22:20

We'd like:

100 X MTHEL Systems for Ships

Western Asia

08-08-2003, 22:45

We'd like:

100 X MTHEL Systems for Ships

That will be $28 million per ship please (25m base plus 3 for use in non-WA ships (requiring special modification). The requirements for installation can be viewed on the first or second page of this thread.

Please send the ships to WA for outfitting. The schedule is of your own accord and it will take one month/ship for up to 20 ships/month. Full security will be provided (has been, ever since that nasty Kanaloa incident...) by 2 companies of WA army and special forces personnel.

Thank you for choosing RAFAEL, Op El, and GINY for your Naval Defensive System needs. Your total is $2.8bn.

Omz222

08-08-2003, 23:42

Money wired, thank you. 100 ships are sent, including 2 Aircraft Carriers, 8 Escort Carriers, 35 Destroyers, 35 Frigates, 10 Cruisers

Also, is it OK that we provide additional air and underwater security? We are preparing for a military operation, so we don't want our ships be torpedoed and whatnot in an enemy attack.

Thank you again.

~Omzian Navy Command

08-08-2003, 23:43

WA did you get my TG?

Western Asia

08-08-2003, 23:50

Thank you. 100 ships are sent, including 2 Aircraft Carriers, 8 Escort Carriers, 35 Destroyers, 35 Frigates, 10 Cruisers

Also, is it OK that we provide additional air and underwater security? We are preparing for a military operation, so we don't want our ships be torpedoed and whatnot in an enemy attack.

Thank you again.

~Omzian Navy Command

Confirmed. We don't believe that you'll need any additional air defenses as the entire 1st Western Asian Grand Naval Fleet is deployed on guard operations along the coast and since 2 FD Destroyers of that and several missile boats patrol the area around each of our major harbors. The harbors and all ships contained within are under the WA Air, Land, Sea, Space (ALSS) detection and protection system, which is responsible for national security issues and which includes sensors meant to detect all sorts of naval vessels (under, on, and above the sea) and all aircraft out to several hundred miles from our borders at the smallest portions).

We can assure you that these vessels will be fully protected.

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OOC: Fik/FR, yeah I've seen it. I'm considering it now and I'll reply soon.

09-08-2003, 00:42

OOC: Fik/FR, yeah I've seen it. I'm considering it now and I'll reply soon.
Ok cool.

Also I need about 30 EA-18's. Consider the money wired

Western Asia

09-08-2003, 02:03

OOC: Fik/FR, yeah I've seen it. I'm considering it now and I'll reply soon.
Ok cool.

Also I need about 30 EA-18's. Consider the money wired

30 X F/A-18IG "Growler"@ $54M/unit= $1.62bn

Consider the aircraft sold and en route. :D

imported_Ell

09-08-2003, 03:26

OOC: I don't know the base cost of the F-16XL. Am I missing something?

OOC: I estimated around $22m, but with mass-production (in excess of 30,000) I can cut it down to $20m.

Omz222

09-08-2003, 06:22

I'd like (again):

25 X STHEL = $2.05 billion
100 X Land-based MTHELs (dunno how much land MTHELs cost, sorry)

Omz222

09-08-2003, 23:38

*ahem* :P

Also, WA, when will your aircrraft carrier be out?

Western Asia

10-08-2003, 02:00

*ahem* :P

Also, WA, when will your aircrraft carrier be out?

Ummmm *stall*

First the price of the previous order (I take it you're preparing for the Melkor War?)

Land-based MTHEL (based on a heavily modified M872A4 Semi-trailer chassis): $65-70M.

Land-based stationary system (STHEL)
Uses 3 standard-Cargo containers modified to contain controls and materials and consist of 2 STHEL arrays (2 shooters): $82M.

25 X STHEL Systems@$82m/unit = $2.05 billion
100 X Land-based MTHEL Systems@$65m/unit (for large order) = $6.5bn

Subtotal: $8.55bn
With Discount: $8.208bn
With S&H Charges: $8.37bn
TOTAL: $8.37bn

Please note: it might take several months to deliver this order but we will do our best to fill it. 30 of our Land-based MTHELs and 12 of our STHELs have been moved out of WA Military use and are en-route aboard 2 FTTs, which are being escourted by a corvette and 3 FAMBs to your shores now. The rest should be filled in a few months' time (3 days to have everything on-hand). Deliveries to advance-deployment bases or friendly territory are possible if needed.

NOTE: there was an error in the previous order, instead of $2.8bn the final price is $2.688bn since you receive a 4% discount for continuing customer status (I think that I owe you a bit back on a bunch of aircraft previously, if that matters to you. It should be taken out before S&H charges (~2%) are applied.)

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Now, for the AC Carriers...they're out already but the numbers are limited (3 Standard and 6 Light Carriers are all that's to be sold right now unless more are produced).

I've sold (or offered to sell) Beth Gellert a couple, anyways, I believe that the price for my 50-aircraft 'Standard' model was $3.6bn and for the 'light' it is $2.8bn.

General info:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=412238#412238

'Standard'-type WA Trimaran Aircraft Carrier:
Standard Capacity:
50- Fixed-wing Aircraft
15- Rotary-wing Aircraft (medium size)^
25- UAVs/UCAVs/UARs (stowed until use, not all expected to return from any mission)

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'Light'-type WA Trimaran Aircraft Carrier:

Standard Capacity:
30- Fixed-wing Aircraft
12- Rotary-wing Aircraft (medium size)^
15- UAVs/UCAVs/UARs (stowed until use, not all expected to return from any mission)

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^- For type classification information (and small and large craft general models), see the linked post:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1162726#1162726

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Each of these vessels have the following:
Has 3 elevators* (2 for the light model) and a stealthy, low-slung design. These carriers use virtual and telepresence technology to eliminate the large "island" on the deck of the carrier, which is replaced by a squat, radar deflecting station about 2 stories tall as with the other designs, and to allow for better command and control of crew. Raised (with portions retractable) "radar shields" will prevent the activity on the ship's deck from reflecting radar signals towards receiver stations.**

Has 1 ramped launch lane (for VSTOL and high-lift aircraft(STOL) such as X-47 Pegasus UCAVs) and 2 "standard" launch lanes (for other planes and non-combat planes). The catapults use the EMALS (Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System), which cuts down on the 'down time' between aircraft.

Armaments:
Mixed-use Offensive/Defensive Systems
1- Ship-based MTHEL II system (WA advanced version, extended range, improved ID and tracking ability (based on Counter-battery radar, to assist in return fire from the fleet), and improved operating system)
6(4 on light)- Sea Sparrow integrated missile pods (48(32)missiles)
6- MDG-351 35mm "Millennium Gun" stations (advanced CIWS, mounted at open spots and in gaps in the )
2- Mk.32 Integrated Triple-mount SVTT (surface vessel torpedo tubes)

Defensive Systems:

Large Area Surface Radar Baffling (LASRB, the "Radar Shield," actually a part of the ship shell, which extends down to the water at an angle that is intended to deflect signals either up into the sky or down into the water.)
Large-spread EW/ECM station (placed at ends to provide fleet/task force-wide EW/ECM coverage. Based on the AN/SLQ-32 Electronic Warfare (EW) system)
PCMS (Passive Counter Measures System. Uses absorbant materials
Degaussing (MCM) systems
MK-53 Nulka Decoy Launching System (DLS)
Machine Noise Reducing Measures (Torpedo Counter Measures)
Prairie/Masker II Noise Masking System
Dragged Torpedo Decoys
Several Wide-Area Navalized "Shortstop" Electronic Protection System (WANSEPS) (a proximity fuse electronic countermeasure system that prematurely detonates artillery shells and other fuses at a safe distance from the target)

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Notes:
*- The elevators are not the 'normal' aircraft elevators. To avoid problems with the radar baffling ("radar shields"), the elevators are large rectangular lift structures placed in areas of the ship and they're adjacent so that a large number of aircraft can be rapidly lifted at once and then rapidly deployed.

**-Sea Sparrow and other missile pods are integrated (hidden) in motile panels of the "radar shield," so when a missile is required to fire, the panel is simply dropped out of the way and the missile(s) are fired towards the targets, torpedo tubes are also included in the baffles. Also included in these panels are and Active Phased Array/Multi-Function Radar (APAR/MFR) hidden in panels and countermeasures equipment.

Omz222

10-08-2003, 02:04

Western Asia

10-08-2003, 02:50

Thank you. Money wired.

Hmm, I would also like a few carriers:

I'll take:
3x 'Standard'-type WA Trimaran Aircraft Carrier = $10.8 bn
6x 'Light'-type WA Trimaran Aircraft Carrier = $16.8bn

TOTAL: $27.6 bn

Money will be wired upon confirmation.

OOC: Yes, these are all for the Melkor war. I need to prepare before getting myself crushed possibly, since the entire NATO's seems to gong to fight.

Also, a small request, can you fill it a bit quickly? the Melkor war's going to start very, very soon... Thank you, I'll probably wire 500million-2 billion more for quick service.

Consider the ships to be en-route they can be expected to be de-mothballed and arrived in your area within 1 month (tomorrow, RLT). We're also re-starting production (if people need'em, we've got'em).

...oh snap, I forgot to mention crew-size and speed!

The Standard version has a TOTAL crew of approx. 3,500 and the Light has a crew of about 3,100 thanks to the fact that I bother to build my designs from scratch (unlike the USN, using a 40 y.o. platform....) and so I have automated systems. The top speed is over 38+ knots for both ships (they use high-power nuclear reactors for their electric-powered waterjet and screw engines) and the cruising speed is about 35knots. The ships are about average length for their class but the ship is wide enough to place the two conventional catapult lanes on either side of the ramped lane. Also, the ship has a visible height of about 1/2-3/4 that of the Nimitz-class, which helps when sneaking up on enemy shores.

There are also 2 'empty' integrated missile stations that can be used to launch box or rail-launched missiles of various sorts (sorry, Yankyouts or whatever they're called won't fit there)....and I also forgot the Barak Point Defense Missile System (a mini-VLS system)....argh! (*shows me for not keeping all of my info in one spot!*)

There are currently no aircraft included, though I think that you won't have a problem with that after the number of Super Hornets and Growlers you bought from me. :D

If you want, a deal could be worked out for helicopters....but the ships are already being prepped to go.

Omz222

10-08-2003, 02:57

Western Asia

10-08-2003, 03:09

Thank you very much, the origional amount 500 million has been wired (500 million for fast delivery :D ). These ships will go into the Omzian Naval Reserve, and it will also be fitted with your aircrafts :P

Also, a small question, is this carrier compatible with bigger Russian aircrafts, modified for launching from Nimitz-class carrier?
OOC:
What type are you thinking about? The Radar Baffles might cause a problem, as might the central ramp at the front of the vessel if you're talking about large transport planes (C130s have landed and taken off on Nimitz's in tests)....if you're talking about larger fighter or bomber craft then it'll depend.

Omz222

10-08-2003, 03:13

Western Asia

10-08-2003, 06:22

Omz222

10-08-2003, 06:24

OOC: The fighters (from what I know...very little) should be fine if they can be launched from AC carriers. As for the "small" bombers....is there a relative size reference (vs. say, an F/A-18IE? or some other such aircraft?)
OOC: The Su-39 is small enough, but the Su-24 would be about 1 2/3 the size of a F/A-18E I would say.

10-08-2003, 06:25

su-24=f-111
su-39=a-10

10-08-2003, 06:32

i should bump my sales thread but screw it. If people don't want some of the coolest aircraft on NS that's their problem

Western Asia

10-08-2003, 06:40

su-24=f-111
su-39=a-10

Ummm, which is it?

According to GlobalSecurity's specs on the Su-24 "FENCER" and Su-39 "FROGFOOT" (forgot about globalsecurity's foreign weapons listings...duh!) they're probably too large unless the ramp is removed (to allow the wings to pass into the adjacent lanes, since I don't believe that they'd work well on a ramp :D)....which can be done (but it will take a month). Perhaps it might be done only to the larger carriers for now to save on precious time?

You can send your crews and aircraft to WA to embark from our ports, if you wish, so that time can be saved in the interim.

Overall, the ship is well-wide enough to bear them and transport them, the only issue is that the ramp in the middle might cause problems....but that can, easily, be fixed (the EM catapult extends under the ramp to the end, but the aircraft leave it at the base of the ramp usually).

Omz222

10-08-2003, 06:43

No problem anyways, we'll stick the Su-24s to my Ulyanovsks.

Anyways, thank you. We will send a total of 36 Su-37K SuperFlankers, along with the necessary crews, over to secure our vessels.

10-08-2003, 06:45

The SU-39 can take off from the Kuznetsov, so it might be able to fly off this deck. I don't think the fencer can. However on my Impaler carriers...
http://www.warbook2000.com/SU25/su25k.jpg

Omz222

10-08-2003, 06:46

The SU-39 can take off from the Kuznetsov, so it might be able to fly off this deck. I don't think the fencer can. However on my Impaler carriers...
http://www.warbook2000.com/SU25/su25k.jpg
OOC: I think I read somewhere that Su-24 can take off from a Kiev or somethin...

Western Asia

10-08-2003, 09:09

OOC: Oh well, either way.
IC: The ships are all ready and the modifications have been made to the larger 'Standard'-type Trimaran AC carriers ((Jonathan) Netanyahu-class). The 'Light'-type Trimaran AC carriers ((Ehud) Barak-class) are also all ready.

The forces that have been sent have been loaded aboard the vessels and they are all underway to either your territory or to their target areas.

OOC: BTW, are you stalking me or something?

You've been right on my tail in this thread and in that "Advice (about 'planned' forces)" thread! :shock: ...It's gettin' sorta creepy :? :D :wink:

Omz222

10-08-2003, 15:25

OOC: No... :twisted: Just posting and posting... :twisted: I mean, err... :)

IC: Thank you, the Su-37s are taking off from a secondary aircraft carrier in international waters right now.

imported_Ell

12-08-2003, 09:24

Ell would like to purchase 500 ship-based MTHEL systems. The neccessary costs will be automatically wired on confirmation.

Western Asia

12-08-2003, 09:35

Ell would like to purchase 500 ship-based MTHEL systems. The neccessary costs will be automatically wired on confirmation.

That will be $28 million per ship (25m base plus 3 for use in non-WA ships (requiring special modification). The requirements for installation can be viewed on the first or second page of this thread.

Please send the ships to WA for outfitting. The schedule is of your own accord and it will take one month/ship for up to 20 ships/month. Full security will be provided (has been, ever since that nasty Kanaloa incident...) by 2 companies of WA army and special forces personnel.

Thank you for choosing RAFAEL, Op El, and GINY for your Naval Defensive System needs.

500 X Ship-based MTHEL Systems@$28m/unit (for large order) = $14bn

OOC: Still working on Omz's ships a bit, but yours can be fitted as soon as they can arrive. For simplicity and speed, some 200 units are being transferred to our forward base near Arda along with some installation crews and equipment (by PelicanULTRA WIG craft). The refit time will be slower but, perhaps, more pertinent.

Western Asia

20-08-2003, 14:40

I'd like to purchase 120 more of your EA-6B Prowlers

and i'd also like to purchase 12 of your EF/A-18 Growlers for testing purposes.

120 X EA-6B ICAP II 89a "Prowler" (new manufacture)@ $52M/unit= $6.24bn

12 X F/A-18IG "Growler"@ $54M/unit= $648M

Your total, with shipping and handling charges included, is $7.025bn. We understand that there are many companies that produce aircraft and we thank you for choosing GIAI for your aircraft needs.

The Prowler aircraft will be delivered in batches of 40 with an average of 1 month (1RL day) between batches (different models will be delivered simultaneously). The Growlers will arrive along with the first Prowler shipment.

Omz222

20-08-2003, 17:08

Omz222

20-08-2003, 18:45

Also, WA, do you have any ship-based MTHEL systems that can be installed by the buyer, instead of your men?

aka bump

Of the council of clan

20-08-2003, 18:57

*money wired*

Beth Gellert

20-08-2003, 19:07

Ah ha, more news on the carrier front, I see (I've really not been paying attention to BG related affairs lately- I'm a bad..Chief Consul)

I don't think we ever got around to finalising the deal, for one reason or another, which is good, because I think I would have ordered light rather than standard carriers, and have since had a change of heart (as BG has been building a great many of its own V/S/TOL carriers in the meantime).

Anyway, before I really start rambling..IC: The Commonwealth wishes to aquire four (4) standard carriers.

A fairly large contract, and much troubled along the way. The Commonwealth is quite willing to wait if the vessels are far from ready (as far as we know no one's planning a war with us right now).

Western Asia

20-08-2003, 19:20

OOC: Quick notes soon to be replaced by proper answers:
1) Omz, you forgot your 4% pre-charges discount.[size=1]plus a nice discount to make up for losses in the Melkor war...total discount % of about 6% for units used to replace those losses.
2) We prefer to keep some of the workings of the MTHEL system proprietary...but a deal might be worked out.
3) All orders will be filled very soon...and BG, yes, you had originally pursued the Light Carriers.

Omz222

20-08-2003, 23:24

1. *Smacks head) But thank you :D
2. I'm just asking, ah well then.
3. Sure, aka bump

Western Asia

21-08-2003, 03:34

I'd like:

100 X F/A-18IG "Growler"@ $54M/unit = $5.4 bn

500 X SH-60 LAMPS Seahawk@ $12M/unit= $6 bn
300 X MH-60G Pavehawk@ $12.5M/unit= $3.75 bn
300 X MH-60S Knighthawk@ $12M/unit= $3.6 bn

300 X CH-53 Sea Stallion@ $25M/unit= $7.5 bn

200 X MH-53E Sea Dragon@ $25M/unit= $5 bn

100 X Land-based MTHEL Systems@$65m/unit (for large order) = $6.5bn
(OOC: ^ yes, ripped from last order)

TOTAL: $42.75 bn
OOC:
Also (in addition to the discount issue), I dunno how you got 42.75bn raw.

IC:
Subtotal: $37.75bn
Subtotal with discounts: $35.5bn
Your total, with shipping and handling charges included, is $36.21bn. We understand that there are many companies that produce arms and we thank you for choosing GIAI, GIMI, and El Op for your weapons system needs.

OOC: You know the deal with the planes and all....time of delivery and such.

Ah ha, more news on the carrier front, I see (I've really not been paying attention to BG related affairs lately- I'm a bad..Chief Consul)

I don't think we ever got around to finalising the deal, for one reason or another, which is good, because I think I would have ordered light rather than standard carriers, and have since had a change of heart (as BG has been building a great many of its own V/S/TOL carriers in the meantime).

Anyway, before I really start rambling..IC: The Commonwealth wishes to aquire four (4) standard carriers.

A fairly large contract, and much troubled along the way. The Commonwealth is quite willing to wait if the vessels are far from ready (as far as we know no one's planning a war with us right now).
OOC: Understood...faintly remembered. :D
IC:
4 x 'Standard'-type (Jonathan Netanyahu-Class) WA Trimaran Aircraft Carrier@ $2.8bn/unit= $11.2bn

Subtotal: $11.2bn
Subtotal with discount: $10.752bn
Your total, with shipping and handling charges included, is $10.97bn. We understand that there are many companies that produce naval vessels and we thank you for choosing GINY for your warship needs. Delivery of the first carrier can be expected in 2 months (2RL days). Two (2) more carriers in the works can be released to you in 4 months (4 RL days) with the fourth and final carrier being delivered in the 5th month (5 RL days). You are lucky that you caught us in the middle of a new construction run.

21-08-2003, 03:50

What products do u sell and how much do they cost?

Omz222

21-08-2003, 09:34

Thank you, money wired.

OOC 1: *Smacks head* *smacks Windows calculator*

OOC 2: Yes... I'll get most of them by a second conflict anyways.

Western Asia

21-08-2003, 12:38

What products do u sell and how much do they cost?

Well, a list current up to page 6 is here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=891381#891381

Reading after page six should reveal some more products.

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I also used to sell my ships here:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12970&highlight=

But I've since closed that thread.

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Some cruise missile prices can be found here:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32732&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

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Other than that, I am also an authorized vendor of the S-43 Line of Endo/Exo Craft as well as the designer and a producer of those vessels. (orders go here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62892&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 )

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Other posts with info:
Helis: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1155607#1155607
My Heli Classifications: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1162726#1162726

Amphibious Landing Craft:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1079162#1079162

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X SH-60 LAMPS Seahawk@ $12M/unit=
X UH-60L Blackhawk (basic)@ $11M/unit=
X MH-60L Blackhawk (SOC)@ $12M/unit=
X MH-60L DAP Blackhawk (with ammo/missiles load)@ $13.5M/unit=
X MH-60G Pavehawk@ $12.5M/unit=
X MH-60S Knighthawk@ $12M/unit=

X MH-92 (Helibus)@$15M/unit=

X H-53 (CH-53 Sea Stallion/MH-53E Sea Dragon/MH-53J Pave Low III)@ $25M/unit=

X RAH-66 Comache@ $13M/unit=

X AH-1W SuperCobra@ $11M/unit=
X AH-1Z UltraCobra (AKA "KingCobra," "Zulu," "ZuluCobra")@ $12.4M/unit (standard price)=

Some Basic Blackhawk Models Offered

--Basic Blackhawks (troop transport for 10-12, with crew of 3 and one door gun): ~11mil

--Special Operations Capable (SOC) Blackhawk (Same as BB, but with many Pavehawk improvements for limited SO support capabilities): ~11.5mil

--LAMPS Seahawk (ASW-capable, can bear ASMs, can also do CSAR and slightly limited troop transportation (6, 4 if stretcher loaded; crew of 4-5, like Basics but with specialist(s) in either ASW(BB+1) or CSAR operations(BB+2)): ~12mil

--Pavehawk (Special Operations Extended Range transport craft, door guns, advanced ground-following avionics, dampened IR and audio signature): ~12.5mil

--Blackhawk DAPs (Armed Blackhawks, with virtually the armament of an Apache (Pylons can bear 2 weapons pods each. Under-nose gun is the same as on Apache) but with added Troop transport capabilities. 4 can be transported as 1-2 extra crew are required for the manning of door guns, also advanced avionics as in the Pavehawk): ~13.5mil

--Knighthawk (An improved version of the Blackhawk, built on the time and deployment-tested Blackhawk airframe but modified and designed specifically for use at sea (by the use of many Seahawk Components) in under-way replenishment and a variety of other roles, including Combat Search and Rescue, Special Warfare Support and Airborne Mine Countermeasures.): 12mil

Omz222

21-08-2003, 23:19

Western Asia

22-08-2003, 02:01

Your "UltraCobra" helicopters continued to "awe" our Navy, Marine Corps, and our Army. We have decided to replace all Cobra helicopters with teh UltraCobra series.

We will order:

400 X AH-1Z UltraCobra (AKA "KingCobra," "Zulu," "ZuluCobra")@ $12.4M/unit (standard price)= $4.96bn

Money will be wired upon confirmation.

OOC: Hmmm, I wonder if I should cut back on your discount a bit.... :D (j/k)

IC:
400 X AH-1Z UltraCobra (AKA "KingCobra," "Zulu," "ZuluCobra")@ $12.4M/unit (standard price)= $4.96bn

Subtotal: $4.96bn
Subtotal with stnd discount: $4.7616bn
Your total, with shipping and handling charges included, is $4.857bn. We understand that there are many companies that produce helicopters and we thank you for choosing GIAI for your weapons system needs.

OOC: You know the drill...40-50 units/ship...2 ships' worth delivered every month (RL day).

Omz222

22-08-2003, 09:38

OOC: lol thx. Yes I still remember.

IC:

Money wired, thank you very much.

Syskeyia

22-08-2003, 18:34

I'd like to buy 57 ship-based MTHEL systems for my battleships and carriers.

Money= $1.6 billion

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

Omz222

22-08-2003, 19:45

We need a last order, to stock up our arsenal to protect Ell from the imperalistic invaders.

300 X F/A-18IG "Growler"@ $54M/unit= $16.2bn
500 X F/A-18IE Super Hornets@ $52M/unit= $26bn

total: $42.2 BILLION

(OOC: Still has $50 billion left, no probs.)

Western Asia

22-08-2003, 23:12

I'd like to buy 57 ship-based MTHEL systems for my battleships and carriers.

Money= $1.6 billion

God bless,

The Republic of Syskeyia

That will be $28 million per ship (25m base plus 3 for use in non-WA ships (requiring special modification). The requirements for installation can be viewed on the first or second page of this thread.

Please send the ships to WA for outfitting. The schedule is of your own accord and it will take one month/ship for up to 20 ships/month. Full security will be provided (has been, ever since that nasty Kanaloa incident...) by 2 companies of WA army and special forces personnel.

NOTE: We've completed the retrofitting of the Omz and Ellan fleets now, so your ships should be done with fitting very quickly.
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57 X Ship-based MTHEL Systems@$28m/unit (for large order)= $1.596bn

Subtotal: $1.596bn

Your total, with shipping and handling charges included, is $1.628bn. We understand that there are many companies that produce arms and we thank you for choosing RAFAEL, Op El, and GINY for your Naval Defensive System needs.

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We need a last order, to stock up our arsenal to protect Ell from the imperalistic invaders.

300 X F/A-18IG "Growler"@ $54M/unit= $16.2bn
500 X F/A-18IE Super Hornets@ $52M/unit= $26bn

total: $42.2 BILLION

Subtotal: $42.2 BILLION
Subtotal with discounts: $40.512bn
Your total, with shipping and handling charges included, is $41.322bn. We understand that there are many companies that produce arms and we thank you for choosing GIAI for your weapons system needs.

Omz222

22-08-2003, 23:14

Thank you, money wired.

De Wit

25-08-2003, 22:25

Hey,

Just wondering how much it would cost for us to piggeback one of our new Typhus class photo-recon sattelites on one of your rockets for launch, as our launch capabilities are still in late-stage developement.

The Typhus class carries ten focal point shutter digital cameras which each have a resolution of five inches. It also carries five radar tracking systems, able to take five meter radar images through cloudes and smoke. We are planning on bringing in a total fleet of 30 such sattelites, each which fly at an altitiude of 100 miles, and will be able to stay in either geo-synchronus or high-speed orbit status.

Anyway, please get back to me with a price for launching one of our sattelites, or if you might wish to purchase one for your own military or intelligence services.

Respond post haste,
the cabinet secretary for trade,
US De Wit

Omz222

28-08-2003, 04:10

WA, any news on the ULTRA transports and the Sentinels? Are they available for purchase now?

Western Asia

28-08-2003, 08:16

I am planning on releasing full specs on those (and all strategic lift craft) as soon as a few other minor projects are out of my damn way. As of now, only UTP members know the armaments of the Sentinel but all will be released soon. If you place an order for some it might motivate me a bit... :D

In reality, if you want to know the price for the ULTRA and LSTRA then check out naval support vessels of approximately the same capacity. The PelicanULTRAs cost a few hundred million (I think, I'd have to check my collected info) to give you a general idea.

The ULAs will be much cheaper, but they have their (stated) draw-backs and all.

Omz222

28-08-2003, 18:56

I see...

When will the Sentinel be available for purchase? i'm thinking to replace the gound attack F-16s and F-35Cs.

Western Asia

28-08-2003, 21:11

It wouldn't do well in those roles, I'm afraid (mainly due to large size, slow speed (faster than most helis, nonetheless), and general vulnerability to air-superiority fighters. Better replacing the A-10 or serving as a general assault-assistance vehicle (mid-way btwn the A-10 and the Apache or Cobra).

Have you seen my "VTOL/Helicraft Classification Scheme?"

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1162726#1162726

The best way to think of it is as part of a combined arms maneuver. In the Terminator series (Comics, books, movies, etc) the Aerial Hunter-Killers (which this was conceptually based upon prior to T3) are used to provide wide-area ground support for both armored (Ground Hunter-Killers, for NS- tanks) and infantry (Terminators, for most of NS- Marines) forces.

It is operated mostly by my marine corps forces. If need be then the army can play with a few, but that's only if WA gets attacked.

I'll collect all of the data and do a professional pitch hopefully within the next week, but RL complications include College Apps and School starting up again. I'll do my darndest. :D

Edit: BTW, the final version will incorporate versions of my SoundBlaster(tm) systems and some other devices for less-lethal weaponry...crowd pacification.

Omz222

28-08-2003, 23:42

I see. I'll take this as a supplement for my A-14s and UltraCobras then.

29-08-2003, 00:29

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Western Asia

29-08-2003, 03:30

OOC: Other systems will be added to this listing soon.
IC:
----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>Tech Profiles: Western Asian Advanced Infantry Weapons<<<<

8/28/2003 17:31 LST
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Several smaller arms manufacturing companies have collaborated to introduce new infantry weapons for special applications, these companies are based in Delta Triumvirate countries or have offices in these countries.

These weapons were demonstrated a few months ago in an annual private event in WA, sponsored by a group of military-oriented magazines, known as the "Shootout at Blackwater," which was attended by a number of Western Asian and other Delta Triumvirate officials and special forces personnel. While the personnel names and affiliations have been withheld due to security concerns, it can be revealed that some of the top special operations units of the Delta Triumvirate were included as were many intelligence and military planning personnel. Weapons manufacturers from throughout the Delta Triumvirate displayed and demonstrated their wares for those in attendance and some of the most innovative products have been collected here.

Included in the array are the following weapons:

- The High-Impulse Weapons System (HIWS), a shoulder-mounted 76mm projectile-launching system (Produced by FNH, Inc., a subsidiary of Lacroix Pyro-Technologies of Sniper Country);
- The Fly-K 51mm "Toe Mortar" and "Area Defense System." A pair of mini-mortar systems for special forces usage (Also a FNH product);
- The FN 303 Less Lethal Weapons System, a gun designed specifically to employ less-lethal ammunition in crowd-control and crowd-supression missions where lethal force is not appropriate or authorized (A FNH product. http://www.fnhusa.com/contents/ll_home.htm)
- The CheyTac .408 Intevention Model 200 Rifle, a Long-Range Anti-Materiel/Hard Target Interdiction Rifle, intermediate-size rifle with high interdiction capabilities at extended ranges, (Produced by Cheyenne Tactical AKA CheyTac Associates LLC);
- The CheyTac Advanced Ballistics Computer (ABC; AKA, the SniperHelper), a "palm top" computer that uses an integral laser range finder and wind meter to calculate all of the information your snipers need in nanoseconds (Another CheyTac product).

Former WA infantry-centric weapons, such as the SHIPON Multi Purpose Personal Assault Weapons System (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=592923#592923), the Tavor Family of Weapons (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=315472#315472), and the SoundBlaster Family of LLW-SGs (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=950394#950394) are still sold, but are much more for "conventional" forces.

At this time, none of these systems have been approved for export beyond the Delta Triumvirate but most systems are within approved export limitations and so public release is expected in the near future. Prices for most units without listed costing will be released then.

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FNH, Inc. Tactical Small Unit Wide Area Weapons Systems
Below are several examples of FNH’s ground-breaking work on new weapons systems which can deliver a significant amount of firepower while maintaining a low demand upon manpower. These systems are designed to be employed by specialized units or even specially-trained general military units with the intent of greatly expanding the firepower that any squad or platoon of soldiers can collect against enemy positions and forces. Some Less Lethal Weapons Systems are also set to be revealed in this section.

The High-Impulse Weapons System (HIWS)
What is the HIWS?

The HIWS is a revolutionary weapons system that promises to tremendously increase the heavy weaponry available to front-line ground forces without tying those forces to heavy support units and large vulnerable vehicles.

This shoulder-fired system boasts a truly intimidating tube - 76mm, to be precise. Through that 3-inch-wide opening - a baseball-sized hole - the High-Impulse Weapon System (HIWS) is capable of hurling the 2.2-pound payload of a 3.3-pound round more than 700 yards in an indirect-fire mode. In a direct-fire role, the HIWS can engage targets out to 300 yards. In spite of this capability, the HIWS is significantly smaller and bears much less of a profile compared to other shoulder-launched weapons. It also has none of the dangerous back-blast that requires relatively complicated "soft-launch" systems for use in an urban environment. All of these features make the HIWS ideal for employment in special forces units who need the high-power capability of a large-diameter mortar system but who cannot afford the related logistical load during operations. The system only requires a single operator.

The ability to use the system in both direct and indirect fire engagements allows users of the HIWS to operate effectively in urban (MOUT) environments, where heavier units are limited and air support is itself in danger. The high-payload of the HIWS means that it can be used to neutralize pockets of enemy fighters either as attackers or as defenders, it also means that fire against structures can be commenced to destroy enemy positions without using expensive and heavy TOW missile systems. As the system can be reloaded simply through a rear port, a two-man team could hold off a large number of enemy forces for an extended period of time. In conventional battle-field environments, the HIWS can be employed to suppress or eliminate enemy activity and weapons fire, allowing friendly forces to advance and over-take or safely escape larger enemy forces.

The fact that the system is so easily man-portable means that it is also capable of serving in fast-reaction light forces such as Paratrooper brigades and Marine Expeditionary Units, where speed is often favored at the expense of more powerful support weaponry. It is actually reported that WA units deployed to Ell and Camp Masada have been equipped with this during their deployments.

Manufactured by Lacroix Pyro-Technologies of Sniper Country, the HIWS will be marketed by the FNH team. Touting a sophisticated recoil-mitigation system, the weapon produces no back blast and no overpressure, making it possible to fire the system from an enclosed space - even from inside a vehicle. The HIWS is also relatively quiet: Ear protection isn't needed when firing the system.

Down at Blackwater, despite a quick rundown on how to arm and fire the HIWS, some of the evaluators clearly had reservations about the system's imposing size and equally imposing statistics. A couple of questions that probably flashed through their minds were: How large a bruise can be caused by a maximum projectile acceleration of 65,600 ft.sec-2? And just how much shoulder pain should be expected from a firing impulse of 22.5 pounds per second?

Perhaps these questions went unasked because Lacroix engineers are considering developing an 84mm HIWS, which would make the 76mm version something akin to a girly-man system. For whatever reasons, the fearless evaluators rose to the challenge.

But one failed to heed the salesman's twice-proffered advice to keep 80 percent of his body weight on his forward foot: A trigger pull later, he did a 180-degree spin to his right, stumbled three steps sideways, and ended up on his butt. And he isn't a little guy. Subsequent shooters didn't have to be reminded.

Lacroix engineers actually have plans for an 84mm HIWS; they've already developed a 66mm version; and they're working on a 40mm variant that's sure to be offered to Western Asian "standard" ground forces.

Despite any pain our evaluators suffered firing the 76mm variant, there was nearly universal agreement that the concept is, in fact, worth pursuing. "Excellent potential for less-lethal payloads," noted one. "Great idea," said another. "Its possible uses include less-lethal weapons applications. I'd like to see further development of this concept."

"Tremendous potential to provide the dismounted infantryman with lightweight, shoulder-fired lethality at ranges well beyond our current family of munitions," another observed. "Awesome potential to place 2.2-pound warheads 300 to 400 meters downrange to defeat various target sets."

Other comments suggested that Lacroix designers continue developing and improving the system with an eye toward evolving it from an area weapon to a point weapon system, and that they figure out a way for a shooter to use the HIWS from a prone firing position.

For targeting this systen, the Lacroix engineers have adopted a modified version of the advanced fire control system (FCS) employed by Greater Israeli Military Industries (GIMI) in the SHIPON Multi Purpose Personal Assault Weapons System, due to its commonality with current Western Asian stocks and the relatively inexpensive manufacturing costs. In fact, GIMI’s RSD is the subcontractor for the HIWS FCS and their bid was the lowest for the required, proven system capabilities as they already have the established manufacturing resources.

HIWS Dimensions
Height (from the base of the handle to the top of the unit): 10.5in/26.25cm
Avg Width of Barrel Area: 4in/10cm
Length of Unit (Total): 2.33ft/28in/70cm (Note: the main unit is only 25in/62.5cm but a catch-handle/shoulder pad extends past most of the length. During firing, the breech opens, ejecting the shell so, while there is no back-blast, it is advisable to provide a bit of space to allow for the ejection of the shell.)

HIWS Media
Pictures
Evaluator Taking Aim with the HIWS (http://www.militarycity.com/blackwater/highimpulseweapon1.jpg)
Evaluators and Company Reps Looking Over the HIWS (http://www.militarycity.com/blackwater/highimpluseweapon2.jpg)

Video
Demonstrating the Firing of the HIWS and Explaining Some of It’s Unique Capabilities (http://www.militarycity.com/blackwater/videos/HIWS.mov)

HIWS Pricing
The price tag of the system may’ve left an even more favorable impression for the evaluators: the 76mm HIWS is only $2,200 per unit. The 40mm system is expected to cost only $2,000 per unit. Ammunition for the 76mm HIWS is a bit expensive at $50/unit (sold in cases of 3 for $150/case) for an HE round, but that is comparable to an 81mm HE mortar round. Other rounds offered include Illumination rounds ($50, sold in cases of 3 for $150/case) and WP/I (White Phosphorous/Incendiary) rounds ($100, sold in cases of 3 for $300/case). Specialty rounds include HEDP rounds ($110, sold in cases of 3 for $330/case) and HEBF/HEPF rounds ($55, sold in cases of 3 for $165/case).

Editor’s Note: Round Types and Descriptions
HE (High Explosive): A high explosive round is a hollow casing containing an explosive compound. Set to detonate on impact or at a selected altitude, it is useful against infantry and some larger targets. It is the least expensive (and thus most common) indirect fire round used. Useful against most target types.

ILLUM (Illumination): A hollow round containing a parachuted flare, which will illuminate a large area as it falls. Used to illuminate targets in night operations for friendly ground forces and to detect enemy forces in dark environments (when NVGs/NVDs are unavailable or ineffective, such as over long ranges).

WP (White Phosphorus): A hollow round filled with white phosphorus. Upon detonation, it scatters burning white phosphorus over a wide are. WP rounds also generate thick white smoke. Useful against flammable targets and in creating chaotic situations for enemy forces.

HEDP (High Explosive Dual Purpose): A hollow round containing an explosive compound filler with a shaped charge director in the nose to provide the round with an enhanced armor penetrating capability. Of limited use with the HIWS but often carried for a "just-in-case" situation if ATGMs or SHIPON-type units are unavailable.

HEBF or HEPF (High Explosive, Blast-Frag or High Explosive, Pre-Fragmented): A high explosive-type round that employs either a pre-fragmented casing (PF) or a reservoir of tungsten or other metallic pellets and shards (BF). Both types are highly effective against massed infantry and unarmored or lightly-armored vehicles.

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The Fly-K 51mm "Toe Mortar" and "Area Defense System."
There are actually 2 Fly-K system models, the Fly-K-TN8111 Man-portable "Toe Mortar" and the Fly-K-TN8464 "Area Defense System."

What is the Fly-K-TN8111?
Much as the HIWS was developed to provide a high-power, man-portable weapons system that is capable of delivering large payloads to enemy targets, the Fly-K toe mortar is designed to give the common infantry man (or SOF operator) the ability to lay down medium-range fire without the need for heavy and bulky larger mortars. The Fly-K is literally designed so that it can be used at a moment’s notice with only a well-placed booted-toe necessary to secure it against recoil and a steady hand to direct its deadly payloads. FNH has delivered another wonder with this device (which was sub-contracted for production through the Western Asian explosives, munitions, and minerals company Titanite S.A).

While not as powerful as its larger 60, 81, or 160mm mortar cousins, the shoulder-carried 51mm Fly-K is very useful as a tactical weapon. Deployment only takes a few moments and only one soldier are needed to deploy and operate the system.

The 10lb system is capable of firing smokeless, flashless rounds out to 650m with a surprisingly high level of accuracy.

The FLY-K is designed to take out point targets, such as machine-gun positions and snipers. Under most battlefield conditions, the system can be fired without giving away its position. It has a very low acoustic signature - less than 52 decibels at 100 meters - and fires smokeless, flashless ammo.

In addition to high-explosive ammunition, several other types of mortar rounds are available for this shoulder-carried weapon. Two of the more interesting types are an infrared illuminating round and a percussion round that functions under water.

BASIC FLY-K-TN8111 Specs/Features:
1. Low acoustic level: 52 db at 100 m
2. Undetectable infrared firing: At any distance, no trace of weapon nor of projectile during firing.
If the shooter is hidden behind cover, the firing emplacement is totally undetectable.
3. Unlimited firing rate: The cadence of firing is only limited by the skill of the shooter.
There is no limit to the number of grenades fired without interruption.
4. Firing safety: No possibility of double ignition.
5.Direction firing precision: Lateral dispersion 10 m max. at maximal range.
6. Manual firing

Fly-K Media
In Position for Use (http://www.militarycity.com/blackwater/toemorter.jpg)
The System (http://www.titanite.fr/photos/lgi.jpg)

NOTE ON THE FLY-K-TN8111: The Fly-K-TN8464, the "Big Brother" of the TN8111, is an automatic system which includes 12 firing tubes. The system can be carried by most 4-wheeled vehicles and can be directed to cover a specific area in anticipation of an enemy approach. The system fires off its rounds in quick succession when intruders are detected, laying down a powerful field of fire that is capable of causing serious damage to enemy forces. The specs and write-up from Blackwater will be made available soon.

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The CheyTac .408 Intervention Sniper Rifle System
Below are several components of the Cheyenne Tactical .408 Sniper Rifle System based on the Intervention line of rifles. (Model 200 Mk. II for military and Model 100 for Civilian LE). These components include the rifle itself, its ammunition, a specially-produced Ballistics managing computer system, a suppressor system for the rifle, a set of optics for the rifle and a handful of support devices and pieces of equipment.

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The CheyTac .408 Intevention Model 200 Mk. II Sniper Rifle

What is the CheyTac .408 Model 200 Rifle?

The CheyTac Model 200 Mk. II is a 5 shot repeating, takedown rifle system. Designed to enable Long-range Anti-Materiel/Hard Target and Soft Target Interdiction, it is an intermediate-size rifle with high interdiction capabilities at extended ranges. Boasts the effective interdiction ability of larger and less accurate .50 caliber anti-materiel rifles against motorized, armored, and bunkerized targets. The barrel is removable and replacable by the operator and the entire system is maintainable at the operator level, including complete tear-down. Spare barrels can be maintained at the unit level and are replaceable in the field, allowing for specialized barrel designs including shorter barrels.

The M200 Mk. II, along with the CheyTac .408 round allows you to "reach out and touch someone (or something)" from over 1,500 yards with a 5in grouping. The system is designed to be effective against softer targets at and over 2,500 yards and its hard-target interdiction abilities extend to well over 1,700 yards. The design of the rifle and round ensure that a very (comparatively) soft recoil is experienced.

The CheyTac .408 round comes in 2 grains, a 419gr (up to 3000fps) and a 305gr (about 3500fps), and is based on the patented "balanced flight" design. This balanced flight design eliminates the precession and overspin that cause inaccuracy in conventional projectiles.

Report from Blackwater:
The first day's activities wrapped up with a demonstration of the .408 CheyTac's long-range capabilities. The unique sniper system has posted a five-shot, five-inch grouping at 1,531 yards. Interested in upping the ante, company representatives said they were ready to demonstrate the system's accuracy during the Shoot-out at any unknown distance out to 2,500 yards.

All of the first day's shooting took place on Blackwater's long-gun (1,200-yard) range, the longest known-distance range on the facility. To accommodate the CheyTac team's request, our group moved to a spot several hundred yards beyond the limits of the 1,200-yard line.

After feeling out a few potential shooting positions, CheyTac's marksman settled down on a spot from which his target, an 18-inch glass panel, was barely visible to the unaided eye. Using a Cassiopeia Pocket PC with an integral laser rangefinder, he determined the target was about 1,700 yards away. He then fingered the control panel on the PC, which quickly computed a ballistic firing solution based on wind speeds and direction at three points between the weapon and the target, the ammunition's burn rate, and effects caused by the earth's rotation. With that information, he turned the weapon's sight's windage and elevation knobs to the positions indicated on the PC, and let loose the first of five rounds - a 419 grain slug - from an Intervention Model 200 Military system.

An intermittent wind was now kicking up dust between the shooter and the target, bringing with it a threatening sky. Four more rounds were sent on their way over the next few minutes; each was preceded by a new reading on the PC. (AFJ later learned that, according to the wind readings from the PC, during the course of the five-shot sequence the wind direction shifted 180 degrees and kicked up to 18 mph.)

With the last shot, the group headed downrange. Two hits were visible in the glass; a third round had torn through the frame holding the pane. All things considered, not a bad showing.

The CheyTac .408/Ballistic Computer <editor's note: listed below> combination is truly a unique shooting system. In its military version, the computer carries ballistics data for all commonly used military cartridges plus the .408 and the .338 Lapua. In the alternative "civilian" version, the computer is loaded for various other cartridges.

CheyTac offers both military and civilian target/law enforcement long-range systems. The Intervention Model 100 and Shiloh Model 300 are designed for target and law enforcement use; Intervention Model 200 and Shiloh Model 400 systems are designed for military applications. All are chambered for the .408 cartridge, which is available in 419 grain (2,950 fps) and 305 grain (3,500 fps) versions.

The rifle's action features a removable bolt head that can handle groups of cartridges with the same cartridge rim diameter. The bolt for the .408 CheyTac cartridge, for example, has a 0.6402-inch rim; therefore, it can handle cartridges spanning from the .300 Kong and .338 A-Square to the .505 Magnum Gibbs and .585 Nyati.

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OUR TURN

After watching the first day's shooting from behind the firing line, the evaluators were ready by their second day at Blackwater to get their hands on the impressive hardware arrayed on three of the facility's ranges. A CheyTac .408 Intervention Model 200 was among more than a dozen weapons aligned on the midway point of the 1,200-yard range.

Outfitted with a Nightforce 5.5-22-by-56 NXS scope, and wearing an OpSinc suppressor with a mirage-defeating thermal cover, the 27-pound rifle was ready for the day's business. A 30-inch, fluted match barrel, nestled in a free-floated barrel tube, accounts for more than half of the weapon's overall 55-inch length (with its retractable stock extended).

It came as no surprise that the M200 rated consistently high marks from all who fired it. "I didn't want to let go of it," one wrote, "this weapon touched my ergonomic roots!" He went on to note that the system delivers "superb bolt-action firepower at long ranges." He found loading and unloading "smooth and easy," and the weapon's recoil "acceptable - I had expected more. Truly a pleasure to shoot this magnificent firearm."

His colleagues were equally effusive. "An extremely pleasant shooter," another noted. "Soft recoil for its capability. Superior to the .50 BMG for most precision applications. The suppressed gun was impressively quiet, and I'm very impressed with the ballistic computer integration."

Noted another, a bit more succinctly: "A sweet-shooting rifle. Low recoil makes it easy to get back on target and maintain control."

The only negative concerning the .408 CheyTac concerned the location of the weapon's safety. He found its positioning (above the trigger, about an inch from the closed bolt handle) "a bit awkward."

A CheyTac spokesman later told AFJ that future improvements being designed for the system are likely to include a change to the weapon's safety. <editor's note: a re-designed safety has been installed in the M200 mk.II rifles, which are now begining production and fielding within Western Asia's Special Forces groups>

BASIC INTERDICTION MODEL 200 Mk. II SPECS:
Caliber: .408 Cheyenne Tactical (CheyTac)
Operation: Bolt Action
Feed Device: 5 round box magazine
Weight: 27 Pounds
Barrel Length: 30 inches
Overall Length: 49 inches (stock retracted)
55 inches (stock extended)
Stock Type: Retractable
Interdiction Range: 2500+ yards

M200 Media
Images:
The Full Rig (http://www.armysniperassociation.com/19.jpg)
The Rig (side view) (http://www.militarycity.com/blackwater/cheytaclongrifle.jpg)

PDFs:
The CheyTac .408 Round (http://www.usglobalaero.com/408.pdf)

PDF> Cheyenne Tactical Brochure on the Military M200 Mk. I and the Civilian LE M100 rifles
Outside (http://www.cheytac.com/releases/outside.pdf)
Inside (http://www.cheytac.com/releases/brochure_inside.pdf)

M200 Pricing: TBA

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The CheyTac Advanced Ballistics Computer (ABC; AKA, the SniperHelper)
What is the ABC?

A "ruggedized" Cassiopeia Pocket PC that uses an integral laser range finder, humidity sensor, wind meter, pre-stored information, and a number of other subsystems to calculate all of the information your snipers need in seconds. Has pre-loaded ballistics information for all commonly used sniper rounds and at several different ammunition grains.

Early in testing, it became apparent that the CheyTac Intervention is capable of field accuracy levels far beyond currently accepted levels. The Intervention has delivered SUB Minute of Angle groups at ranges up to 2500 yards. As a result, a tactical computer was developed by Paver Consulting, Inc. to integrate radar data with a handheld computer. The latest version employs the Cassiopeia Pocket PC and the operator does not have to enter any values EXCEPT the downrange winds.

Another product brought to you by Cheyenne Tactical (CheyTac).

ABC Media
Guide Sheet to ABC (http://www.cheytac.com/images/abc_text.gif)

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The CheyTac Set of Support Equipment

CheyTac OPSINC: The Suppressor
The CheyTac OPSINC suppressor, manufactured by OPSINC, is a stainless steel long life suppressor. The suppressor attaches in a unique manner to enhance ssystm accuracy and adds 25 ‹ 30 fps to the standard muzzle velocity. The all stainless steel construction with no replaceable parts guarantees a suppressor life that equals or exceeds the life of the rifle. Even when totally filled with water, the suppressor can be drained in 6 seconds that allows very rapid employment when emerging from water. An aggressive testing process has insured a total repeatability of zero when the suppressor is removed and replaced. If the operator chooses to switch to the muzzle brake, a repeatable 6 MOA zero change for elevation is required.

CheyTac Day and Night Optical Sight Systems: The Sights
There are two different day optical sights available. The primary sight is the Nightforce NXS 5.5 ‹ 22X variable with a 56mm Objective. The alternate sight that is still in development is the US Optics SN-9. The night vision system chosen is the AN/PVS-14 GEN III Pinnacle monocular. The PVS-14 is attached to the day optic using the Monoloc device. The Monoloc is already in use by several SOCOM units as well as the PVS-14.

CheyTac LRRS: The Support Devices
An AN/PEQ-2 IR Laser is used for system support with the night vision sight under conditions where there is insufficient ambient light or the IR Laser is needed for further target illumination. The device is attached to a titanium strut.

A KESTREL 4000 sensor package is used to measure the wind, air temperature, and air pressure. It also collects relative humidity, wind chill, and dew point. All of these points of data will be fed directly into the IT-70 tactical computer so that no manual input is necessary.

Paper Data Tables are provided in the event the tactical computer fails or the batteries for the device fail. This will allow the sniper team to continue their mission by using paper data and a calculator to compensate for the air temperature, air pressure and ammunition temperature.

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NOTE: Work on this technology and all of the systems will be transferred to Delta Triumvirate states. As all of this is new for NS, you guessed it, a patent.

OOC: Thanks to CheyTac Associates LLC and Fabrique Nationale Herstal, Inc. for bringing these systems to RL...and for giving me cool weapons for NS. And thanks to Armed Forces Journal for the "Shootout at Blackwater" and such coolness. :D

Sources:
http://www.militarycity.com/blackwater/ (General)
http://www.cheytac.com/ (CheyTac weaponry)
http://www.fnhusa.com/ (Fabrique Nationale-Herstal, FNH/Lacroix)
http://www.titanite.fr/ (Titanite S.A.)

BTW, my favorite quote about the problem with trying to get USSOCOM to acquire the Fly-K (in spite of its benefits): "Unfortunately," he concluded, "it is French." :D

Omz222

29-08-2003, 03:40

29-08-2003, 03:46

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Western Asia

29-08-2003, 04:31

OOC: Omz, I'll fill your order as soon as I've given the D-Tri members some time to distribute these systems throughout their ranks.

EDIT: and the 40mm version is not out yet....

I've only just begun limited deployments for my soldiers in Ell and at Camp Masada but full distribution will take about 3 months (3RL days). This will also allow me to bring out most of the other specs and (hopefully) the full specs for the Sentinel and Condor (possibly some others).

Also, did you see the HIWS vid?

SC, did you see the last line? :D

IC:
Full-run production of the CheyTac, HIWS, and Fly-K-TN8111 have begun in factories both in Western Asia and in Sniper Country. Factories in Gradenk are believed to be set to produce the systems but their production schedule is unknown for now.

29-08-2003, 05:08

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Western Asia

29-08-2003, 08:22

OOC: The Toe mortar is fairly simple...I'd say 200 units/month for a very small factory or 700+/month for a decently large factory (but economics frowns on running a factory for 2 months).

The CheyTac is fairly easier since, as a high-quality weapon, it takes a bit more care (read: human work) to complete. I'd say 5-10 units/day (150-300 units/month)...per work shop (maintaining a top-notch quality of work). IRL, it probably takes a small workshop that is hand-constructing these things a day to run through about that many. So, if you had a factory-level construction it could probably produce 15-25 units/day without a serious drop in efficiency (450-750units/month), based on the idea that you just have several workshops (and skilled metallurgists) at one location.

The HIWS is probably in the mid-ground here. I'd say 200-400 units a month for a medium/small factory or 30/day at a large factory (900/30-day month).

Western Asia

02-09-2003, 06:07

10,000 X 76mm HIWS Unit = $22M
20,000 X 40mm HIWS Unit = $40M

200,000 X 76mm HIWS HE round cases = $30M
100,000 X 76mm HIWS Illumination round cases = $15M

50,000 X 76mm HIWS WP rounds cases = $15M
50,000 X 76mm HIWS Incrediary rounds cases = $15M

100,000 X 76mm HIWS HEDP rounds cases = $33M
100,000 X 76mm HIWS HEBF rounds cases = $16.5M
100,000 X 76mm HIWS HEPF rounds cases = $16.5M

TOTAL: $203M

Your order, minus the 40mm HIWS unit (which is not yet in production past prototyping), is now being filled.

This order will probably take over a year to fill, as it is intermixed with the deployment of these units to mainline WA forces. 8 HIWS factories are producing the 76mm HIWS now and 10 factories are producing rounds for the 76mm weapon.

Omz222

02-09-2003, 06:09

Thank you, money wired.

02-09-2003, 06:12

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Western Asia

02-09-2003, 06:14

OK. I'll also try to finish off the infantry weapons post (and my UAV/UCAV post on page 6 hehehe).

Omz222

02-09-2003, 06:16

OOC: SC, replied.

IC:

We still express out extra interest in the Sentinel aircrafts and your UCAVs. We are in dire need of new UCAVs.

imported_Ell

02-09-2003, 10:00

What page are the specs for those Mach 1.8 cruise missiles.

Western Asia

02-09-2003, 11:41

OOC: Mach 1.8? Mach 1.5 improved CALCMs are probably what you meant. I'll be bringing them out soon. The size and range is about the same as the standard AGM-86D and E Block II CALCMs (http://globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/agm-86c.htm). As it is, PDE can improve your speed and improve your range, but only one at a time.

The whole deal with PDE (pulse detonation engine) technology can be seen in the SA-43 Hammerhead developmental thread (Here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1292387#1292387)). Apparently, Ardor, Wolfish, Markov, and I all got the same magazine...because four nations almost simultaneously developed PDEs. :D
(Wolfish (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1238085&highlight=pulse+detonation+engine#1238085), Ardor (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1274501&highlight=pulse+detonation+engine#1274501), Markov (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1319667&highlight=pulse+detonation+engine#1319667).)

Wolfish went straight to advanced versions while I've been working up from basic uses (augmenting turbojet and turboprop engines...even some rocket engines) towards the end-goal (mach 5/6 stand-off range/cruise missile to be used against ships from either aircraft (like the B-747) or from specialized launchers (VLS arrays or dedicated Missile Boats)).

The CALCM has a fairly sturdy airframe and already bosts long ranges, fairly high speeds, and a large warhead (not to mention inter-operability with the B-747s)...even then, the wings had to be reinforced and the airframe checked for vibrational issues.

I have yet to post about it in this thread, but that move is most definitely in the coming. (I also just found an AF report on future aircraft and future AF options for various scenarios...so between that and school starting up again and college apps I'll be a very busy boy).

I'm actually running a bit low on them ICly (still dunno how much damage they all caused...though not too many enemy ships should be left) and more dangerous runs by F/A-18IEs and F-16Is will have to follow up if too many more fleets come along.

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Current Projects I'm Working On (in no particular order):
- Updated Strategic Transport Development Effort info (STDE. in a new post, with prices, enhanced stats, and saleability!).
- Reviewing someone's military stats.
- Preparing a massive arms tech transfer deal with an unnammed client.
- Finalizing the Advanced Infantry Weapons and UAV/UCAV (perhaps the latter in a new posting) posts with specs
- Bringing out the Sentinel (possibly mixed into the STDE posting)
- Bringing out basic Land-Combat vehicles.

De Wit

05-09-2003, 01:40

Omz222

05-09-2003, 02:13

OOC:

Sounds impressive.

Anyways, an important TM for you.

Western Asia

05-09-2003, 05:19

My dear friend and ally,

The military of De Wit is in the market for some of the weapons that you have posted here.

We will buy:

1,000 CheyTac .408 Sniper Rifles

1,000 CheyTac ABC Scout/Sniper ballistic computing sets

1,000 CheyTac rifle accessory kits

10,000 HIWS weapon systems

The money for this purchase will be wired to your account pending confirmation of price and shipment. Pleasure doing buisness with you.

10,000 X 76mm HIWS weapon systems@$2,200/unit= $22M

1,000 X CheyTac .408 Sniper Rifle Systems (includes cost of rifle, hard transport case, care instructions, limited lifetime warranty, spare barrel, and support equipment (ie, weapons cleaning gear))@$7,400/set= $7.4M

1,000 X CheyTac ABC Systems (including back-up ballistics lists)@$800/unit= $0.8M

1,000 X US Optics SN-9 Dayscope and N/PVS-14 GEN III Pinnacle monocular (combo kit, SN-9 costs about $3000 retail, PVS-14 GEN III costs
$4,000-4,500 retail)@$7,000/set= $7M

Subtotal: $37.2M
Subtotal (with 5% discount through the Regional Security Assurance Act (RSAA)): $35.34M

Total, with shipping charges, is $36.05M

The units will be transferred in sets of 200 units for the CheyTac systems and in sets of 500 for the HIWS systems over the next months (2 such shipments/month).

Otherwise, the launches have been prepared for your satellites and the first set of 4 are prepped and ready to go (costs taken care of...as per, ummm, agreement :wink: ).

OOC: Sorry for the superhigh prices, but that is actually what I found the civilian versions to cost...military is probably more. Meh.

Omz222

05-09-2003, 05:41

OOC: Check TM, again. Sorta important this time.

Sorry for hijacking.

Western Asia

05-09-2003, 06:56

OOC: Check TM, again. Sorta important this time.

Sorry for hijacking.

OOC: *takes aim with .408 at short range* "Oh, that's okay..." *BAM!*

Walmington on Sea

05-09-2003, 07:04

Ohh, that's how one deals with stalkers!

Western Asia

05-09-2003, 07:54

OOC: Only the ones that I like... :twisted:

:wink: :D

imported_Ell

13-09-2003, 00:27

We wish to contract the IDF to produce the following item, a "stealthy" version of the ship-based MTHEL with low radar returns.

imported_Ell

13-09-2003, 00:27

We wish to contract the IDF to produce the following item, a "stealthy" version of the ship-based MTHEL with low radar returns.

Western Asia

14-09-2003, 04:07

The MTHEL II system (see original post for view of the improvements) is housed in a shell similar to that of other more recent ship-based weapons systems from WA (such as the 'Millennium Gun'). While it has previously not been put up for sale, a special deal might be made.

imported_Ell

14-09-2003, 05:36

The Ellan Navy will require about 160 MTHEL Is (or IIs if they are for sale) for use on its new stealth destroyers (4 MTHELs per destroyer). If it is possible, we would like the MTHEL modules to be intergrated into the hull to reduce radar return and would be willing to meet all extra costs.

Western Asia

18-09-2003, 02:08

OOC: Updated version. Status Report: Part I mostly done. Part II in works.
---Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>R&D Progress Report: The Western Asian Strategic Transport Development Effort (WA-STDE). <<<<

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Ever since its creation, the military of Western Asia, organized under the IDF, has sought to develop technologies that will ensure the safety of Western Asia's citizens and unfortunate people around the world.

A major part of this effort has concerned the rapid movement of soldiers, humanitarian workers, materiel, and equipment rapidly and easily around the world to support Western Asia's continuing commitment to international affairs. And the answer produced by IDF long-term planning committees is the Western Asian Strategic Transport Development Effort (WA-STDE, ‘wäy-stêd’)—a multi-tiered and multi-purposed development project that covers almost every

One of the centerpieces of the project, the PelicanULTRA, which has the capacity to move tremendous amounts of equipment and supplies at a comparably rapid pace (in relation to the only other craft that could move such loads--heavy transport ships), has been in development for decades as technology has sought to "catch up" with the demands of the design. The Pelican has also spawned a smaller sibling, the AlbatrossLSTRA, which is on the drawing boards (see below for more information on both craft).

Another major project, which has drawn significant attention over the many years of development and small-scale production, is the High Speed Vessel. Based on a Catamaran design that ranges in carrying capacity between about 1,400 and 300 soldiers (depending on test model), the HSV has been found to be very adept at both peace time goods transporters and wartime special purpose craft. 2 models are expected to enter mass production with standardized configurations. The older testbed craft, which are well-liked by their crews and those that have had contact with them, will be retired or refitted to meet the Fleet Standard Baseline (FSB) for the HSV. (Again, more information follows).

Some of the newest developments in aviation, namely the successful ACP-1 project, have lead to new tactical transport designs such as the "Condor Dropship," which boasts a tremendous capacity to ferry men and machines from off-shore vessels to beachheads and landing areas. Many tests of modified "Sentinel" chassis have been reported as "tremendous," "delightful," and "a vision of the future," by IDF commanders that have witnessed testing and development flights of the Condor.

When these craft are all released it is estimated that WA will be able to deploy up to an entire armored Marine Division within 36-48NST hours with supplies for 72 hours of operation. And in less than a NST week to have deployed several divisions along with extensive support services for many months’ worth of continuous operations.

UPDATE: Since the original publishing of this document several years ago, most of the described systems have been pushed into action, most recently in transporting forces to and from Camp Masada and Ell in related conflicts. Most of the designs have performed to expectations and now are being increasingly fielded with Western Asian forces abroad.

Along with each description there is now an enhanced data field, which lists the (estimated) numbers of each craft present in the Western Asian military motor pool current to this date.
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Strategic Transport Unit Application Ranges
Global/Intercontinental
- C-200 PelicanULTRA
- C-100 AlbatrossLSTRA (To be released)
- CV-5a/5b/6/7 ULAs (various models)
- C-?? Proposed HyperSoar-derived transporters (To be released)
- C-?? BWB Large Transport Aircraft (Available from Raysia)
- C-?? Box-wing transport/tanker aircraft (To be released)
- C-17 Globemaster III
- C-5 Galaxy
- C-130 Hercules

- High-speed Sealift Vessels (employing surface-effect designs, to be released)
- HSV-based vessels (To be released)
- Carrier vessels (Aircraft Carriers, SBSVs, and SOCS vessels, to be released)

Regional/Continental
- C-17 Globemaster III
- C-5 Galaxy
- C-130 Hercules
- CV-1 Condor VTOL transporters
- CV-4/5a/5b/6/7 ULAs (various models)
- C-100 AlbatrossLSTRA (To be released)
- Conventional Rotary-wing VTOL transport aircraft (H-53 and H-60)
- Conventional Improved Rotary-wing VTOL transport aircraft (H-92, to be released)

- High-speed Sealift Vessels (employing surface-effect designs, to be released)
- HSV-based vessels (To be released)
- Carrier vessels (Aircraft Carriers, SBSVs, and SOCS vessels, to be released)

Local
- Conventional Rotary-wing VTOL transport aircraft (H-53 and H-60)
- Conventional Improved Rotary-wing VTOL transport aircraft (H-92, to be released)
- CV-1 Condor VTOL transporters
- CV/A- 4/5a/5b ULAs

- LCACs/HLCACs (to be released)

– Ground-based transport vehicles (various roles, sizes, and types)

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The Following Section is Devoted to Updates on the Development and Production of the WA-STDE

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PART I: AIR-TRANSPORTS

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PelicanULTRA (Ultra Large Transport Aircraft) WIG craft

The first reports of the PelicanULTRA were originally distributed over 40 NS years ago but it is only in the interim strong concentrations on high-torque and hp engines (and in synthetic, advanced materials) that the design was able to, literally, "get off of the ground."

In other aeronautics news, a massive, ground-effect transporter is on the boards of GIAI planners, called the "Pelican," this massive plane would be able to air-lift large loads across oceans or continents at only a few meters above the surface, thus exploiting the "ground effect" that provides low-flying craft with an air cushion that cuts down on the required fuel loads for such a craft, which can fly at hundreds of miles an hour.

Outline of final specs.
<old specs clipped>

- PelicanULTRA WIG craft
About 2-3 RL months in the making (see my tech thread), it's coming out IG now). Can carry over a dozen tanks plus a great deal of supplies. Slow plane and vulnerable to enemy craft, but a few will move forces relatively quickly in comparison to ships. The draw back is the need for prepared run-way that can manage the great mass of the plane and cargo. Long range thanks to WIG effect. To go on sale, expensive as hell (about as much as a boat with equivalent storage capacity, a deal when time is considered), but worth it.
A smaller version of the Pelican, the Albatross, is in the works as well. All patented WA tech, design, and concept.

UPDATE: PDE technology has allowed the Pelican to greatly increase its range and top speed. The following specs are representative of that improvement.

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FINAL PELICAN ULTRA SPECIFICATIONS
Title: C-200 PelicanULTRA (Ultra Large TRansport Aircraft)

Crew and Passengers:
Crew Break-down
1-3 Flight Control Officers (FCO,Pilots)

1-3 Flight Control Personnel (FCP, Co-pilots)

1-2 Communication Systems Officer (CSO)

1-2 Defensive Systems Officer (DSO)

4 Cargo Master Chiefs

(Note: Cargo Master Chiefs can double-duty as the CSO and DSO, often they switch off duties on long flights. There is only 1 FCO and 1 FCP on-duty at any one time. The number of redundant personnel is determined by the profile of the flight mission. Longer flights use 2 FCO/FCP personnel while an around-the-world flight might take 6 such personnel.)

Total Crew:
8-14 (depending on mission length and demands)
In-Cabin Passenger Capacity: 9-15 (depending on mission length and crew demands)

Dimensions:
-----Length: ~400 ft (121.9m)
-----Breadth (wingspan): 500 ft (152.4m)
-----Wing Surface area: over 1 acre (4,047 m2 / 43,561.5 ft2)

Engines:
4, 80,000hp turbine (turboprop) engines (which are more efficient than standard jet engines). Use 50ft diameter, 8-bladed, counter-rotating propellers (4 at each of 2 levels) and PDE technology improvements.

Speed:
Official Max: 360 mph
Estimated Max (breaking point): 375+ mph
Cruising Speed (optimal): 320-340 mph

Mass:
Unloaded, Fully Fueled: 3.2 million pounds
Fully Loaded, Fully Fueled: 6 million pounds
Maximum Allowable Gross Weight (*ultimate safety margin*): 6.05 million pounds

Range:
One-way, unrefueled:
Official: 16,000mi (full load, at WIG altitudes); Estimated Real: 20,000+ mi
Official: 22,000mi (1.5 million pounds, at WIG altitudes); Estimated Real: 25,000mi

One-way, with added fuel capacity (reduces cargo load on upper deck significantly):
Official: 24,000 mi (full load, at WIG altitudes); Estimated Real: 28,000+ mi

One-way, with in-flight refueling:
"Unlimited"

Fuel Source
Current models depend on Hydrocarbon-combustion fuels but future models will utilize a mix of hydrogen-derived power for the main engines and some hydrocarbon fuel for the integrated PDEs. It is possible to employ a nuclear powerplant in the place of the hydrogen fuel cells but that is not to be included in Western Asia due to environmental concerns.

Cargo Capacity:
-----Carrying Capacity: 2.8 Million pounds (1,400 tons) of cargo.
-----Storage Area: 2 decks with a combined area of 29,000 sq ft
-----Cargo Equivalent: About 180 standard 8X8X20 cargo containers or 17 Abrams M1A1s and numerous containers or equivalent load.

Cargo Lift Comparisons:
- The PelicanULTRA bears up to 5x the capacity of the Antonov 225, with twice the external dimensions;
- One Pelican would require only six sorties to deliver an army mechanised infantry battalion;
- In a single sortie it could deliver an air and missile defence umbrella of one Patriot air-defence system and one Theater High-Altitude Area Defense battery. In comparison, 27 C-17 Globemaster III strategic transport aircraft sorties are needed to transport one Patriot battery alone.

Defensive Systems:
- "Short-Stop" ECM system (3 units aboard);
- Flares and Chaff distribution systems;
- Simple ECM systems to counter detection and targeting efforts;
- Several points for AN/AAQ-24 (V) NEMESIS Directional Infrared Countermeasures (DIRCM) systems;
- (on WA militarized versions, optional) Enhanced EW/ECM systems;
- (on WA militarized versions, optional) Launchable IR and wide-spectrum decoys;
- (on WA militarized versions, optional) 6, MDG-351 35mm "Millennium Gun" stations, located along the top of the craft and programmed to avoid the wings and the rest of the craft;
- (on WA militarized versions, optional) 4, Sea Sparrow defensive missile batteries, streamlined into the top deck of the craft.

(NOTE: Version with Sea Sparrow and Millennium Gun batteries (and the Enhanced EW/ECM systems) is known as the "MC-200 ‘Angry Pelican’")

Functional Altitudes:
Functions in the WIG (ground-effect) range of 20-50ft (wing-tip to seasurface, in WIG zone) or up to about 20,000 ft. A high degree of automatization and a large number of sensors (including long-range surface radar and FLIR systems) are required for the PelicanULTRA

Functionality of Use:
Unlike the Soviet ekranoplan, the PelicanULTRA doesn't require any heavy plating and can land well inland at friendly bases. Paved and decently-supported runways are a MUST, since the gross load can reach up to 6 million pounds at take off (less in landing). In extensive studies, the load and wearing effects of landing a PelicanULTRA is not significantly different from those wearing and load effects caused by an equivalent-capacity landing by an appropriate number of smaller heavy-lift craft.

The farthest half of the outer wing sections are folded up 90° before landings and after lift-off (or the tips would contact the ground). The outer wing sections (outer 2/5, 1/5 on each side) can completely fold up fully for ease of maneuvering in airports and during storage. To off-load cargo, the massive nose section of the plane is lifted by the use of tremendous motored hinges. Trained crews only need 3h after it lands to unload its cargo and prepare it for takeoff.

The PelicanULTRA uses reverse-thrusting as featured in the C-17 to make the runway length demands insignificant in comparison to other heavy-lift aircraft operating under normal conditions (It would require only 2,164m of runway space). Most civilian "international" and "national" airports have the capacity to support a PelicanULTRA. The Pelican uses 38 fuselage-mounted landing gears with a total of 76 tires to distribute its weight over a wide area.

Sights of the PelicanUltra
Over Calm Seas (http://www.aviationnow.com/content/ncof/images/aw1659.jpg)

Costs:
Developmental Costs:
$13 billion in final development stages (including testing, improvements, and force integration measures).
Total program development cost: $120bn to date (over 40 years, 5/6 of funds spent in last 15 years of development, includes the cost of acquiring and integrating current fielded and planned units).

Foreign-Entity Unit Acquisition Costs (production and sale, not total development unit cost)
C-200A PelicanULTRA: $340-400M
CM-200 "Angry Pelican": $355-410M (limited distribution)
NOTE: Price variants are based upon order size and ongoing business relations. Due to the nature of the PelicanULTRA as a civilian-type cargo transporter, it is not a military purchase unless specifically bought by the military. Sale to private trade organizations and companies is accepted though some limitations might be placed against certain groups or nations at the pleasure of the USWA Congress and Foreign Exports Control Board.

Unit Inventory in Western Asia
Military:
NOTE: Includes those units available to Delta Triumvirate on an ‘On-call’ basis. Numbers in parenthesis indicate 10-year acquisition goal.
C-200A PelicanULTRA: 38 active units (50, longer term acquisition goals under evaluation)
CM-200 "Angry Pelican": 4 active units (6)

Other Governmental/Paragovernmental:
C-200A PelicanULTRA: 3 (2 Magen David Adom, 1 various uses)

Civilian (commercially-held):
NOTE: These units could be pressed into military service with the civil air reserve.
C-200A PelicanULTRA: 8 (various uses)

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AlbatrossLSTRA (Large Scale Transport Aircraft) WIG craft

A mid-range aircraft in style of Pelican but somewhat closer to the size of a 747, but still significantly larger (1/2 to 3/4 the size of the full PelicanULTRA). Meant to deal with larger transportation issues to locations not capable of supporting PelicanULTRAs or not necessitating the use of a PelicanULTRA. Also expected to boast a significant speed improvement over the PelicanULTRA

UPDATE: A pair of working prototypes, which use 2 of the Pelican’s wing engines (with a pair of smaller jet engines in the tail section), have been tested and proven to be capable of performing all duties set out in its design. The Albatross design and construction work is currently on hold due to budgeting issues and some debate over the use for a new aircraft when alternatives (the C-17, C-5, and 747-400ER) exist and can be obtained at marginal prices. There is a claim among the supporters of the LSTRA program that the Albatross could serve as an intermediate between conventional cargo jets and PelicanULTRAs for smaller nations and companies.

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Test Form (Box-wing) Strategic Airlift Widebody Transport and Tanker Aircraft (TFbw-SAWBT2A)

A classified-design Strategic Airlift Airplane (widebody transport and tanker craft). Uses the patented Western Asian "Box-wing" form to allow for added capabilities in all of its roles. Undergoing alpha-level declassification, which will permit greater details, including images of the craft, to be released to the public. The project has also passed under the title of the "KC-X Advanced Mobility Aircraft" as a "Next Gen" form of the KC-767 Common Widebody Tanker & Transport aircraft that is set to be fielded by the IDF Air Force in the coming months (which has AWACs and MC2A configurations as well as the previously-mentioned Tanker and Transport configurations).

In either manner, the Box-wing design (patent pending) is set to meet the requirements for a Global-range support aircraft (having the ability to transport a minimum 50,000 pounds payload over a minimum 12,000 NM range.) Worldwide coverage will require aircraft that can fly 12,000 miles, deliver cargo, and return without refueling at the terminal point. It is expected that the box-wing design will be able to carry up to 150,000 pounds of cargo. Other aircraft in this sector include a rumored Blended Wing Body (BWB) design.

Not released yet or otherwise mentioned, a new widebody aircraft for lifting supplies. Jet-based to replace C-141s and KC-135 Tankers.

UPDATE: The box-wing design is set to enter production within 3 months’ time on a limited (testing design) scale designed to determine the most useful design (types include the Variant 1 and 2 (V1, V2)). The BWB design has been picked up by the nation of Raysia independently and it has been determined by an independent strategic think-tank that direct purchases (even of limited native manufacturing rights) from Ell would be more efficient and effective than attempting to develop the program independently.

Artists’ Conceptions:
V1 as a midflight-refueler/tanker (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/nsa3.jpg)
A Civilian Transporter Variant 2 (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/gra-sf_civ.jpg)
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MORE: ULAs, Condor VTOL Transporters, PART II!

Western Asia

18-09-2003, 02:12

PART I: CONTINUED!

Ultra Large Airlifters

CV/A-4 ULA (20 metric ton capacity, Civilian Designation: SkyCat™ 20)
MCV/A-4 ULA (MINESEEKER / MINEHUNTER)
CV/A-5a ULA (200 metric ton capacity, Civilian Designation: SkyCat™ 200)
CV/A-5b ULA (220 metric ton capacity, Civilian Designation: SkyCat™ 220)
CV/A-6 ULA (600 metric ton capacity, Civilian Designation: SkyCat™ 600)
CV/A-7 ULA (1,000 metric ton capacity, Civilian Designation: SkyCat™ 1000)
BMV/A-7 ULA (GATEKEEPER)

Designations Note: Designation CV/A stands for "Cargo: VTOL/Airlifter." General accepted designations include the ULA, the ULA-(Model #), the CV/A, and the CV-(Model #). The addition of a ‘M’ prior to the CV/A indicates a special mission aircraft while a ‘BM’ indicates that the ULA has something of an offensive role for air-to-surface combat (bomber-missile).

NOTE: Statistics and concepts of employment have been updated in the below description.

You heard it here first. WA is now marketing Heavy-lift airlifters (airship/blended body form hybrid) practical and cheap for use in transporting materials. Like all lighter-than-air vehicles, the payload capability of the SkyCat increases exponentially with size. Unlike airships, however, its aerodynamically-derived lift enables the SkyCat to gain significantly further from the benefits of scale. While the PelicanULTRA will be good for relatively short-time deployments and they will be relatively inexpensive. Although they could never bear all of the supplies needed for a prolonged or heavy deployment, nor arrive with all of the equipment in a short time, they have their benefits in being used correctly. As one analyst has put it, "when a transport stream is considered, as is the case in any large deployment, once the pipeline is filled the speed becomes largely irrelevant," and what matters more is the tonnage delivered per day, not the speed of transport.

Functionality of Use:
Along this line of thought, WA companies, in cooperation with the government and various trading corporations, have developed a variety of ‘ships’. The smallest bears 20 tonnes (200 tonnes is the smallest heavy-lifter, as the 20 tonne variant is meant for special uses) and the heaviest some 1,000 tonnes. Some engineers have even spoken of a 1,500 tonne model in light of the SkyCat’s great success as both a commercial and military transporter within Western Asia.

In addition to its military uses, SkyCats can also be extremely useful in transporting civilian goods such as crops and manufactures (800 medium-sized cars could be transported by a single 1,000 tonne lifter). And, as an airship, it can load and unload in large fields with minimal preparation, opening up operations and allowing important airfields to remain clear for conventional aircraft or Pelicans. The top speed is only about 120mph (improved from an initial 100, which is now the cruising speed), but it is worth it when you need to move large amounts of goods.
Slower but much cheaper than air freight and much faster but slightly more expensive that sea freight, the heavy-lift hybrid-airship fills a gap in the service offered. In some sectors that gap presents problems. This has big implications in the time-dependant and geographically-limited agricultural trade fields. Often, the rural communities that produce the majority of crops are isolated from prime markets by large bodies of water and air freight is often simply too expensive for the purposes (and rail freight has serious maintenance issues). To use sea freight requires produce to be refrigerated, something that affects the quality of some produce and is not possible for others, soft fruit, for example. A 1,000 - tonne hybrid operating with high value agricultural produce one way and car the other could be a highly profitable pursuit as inventory costs are taken far more seriously than before.
The civilian SkyCats are already a favorite among WA’s manufacturers, who can use them to transport cargo over WA’s large forests without concern for damaging the environment or running into government natural resource protection laws.
In the end of calculations, the cost of transport with the higher-capacity end of the SkyCat line is just about the same as road-based transport trucks (in cost per ton/mi (tonne/km)). But the large size, high speed, long range, and low infrastructure demands mean that the SkyCat are even cheaper to employ than the trucks, since they require little of the costs inherent in transport by road (road maintenance costs, transshipment points, warehousing, and numerous personnel).

Of particular interest are those areas of the world where economies are advancing faster than infrastructure can be incorporated at the peripheries of large regions. China at the beginning of the 21st Century is an example of this. Large hybrids offer a quick and cheap means of opening up remote regions before the necessary air and ground links can be built. By using innovative "air skirts" similar to those on LCAC and HLCAC "Hovercraft," the SkyCats can land on dirt, mud, snow, ice, or even water without problem. This ability means that there is literally no terrain-based limit as to where a SkyCat can land and launch. A reversible fan system also allows the SkyCats to ‘self-anchor’ on any fairly smooth terrain.

Light/heavy range: while conventional airships are limited to operating in a narrow band between approx. 5% light and 8% heavy, the SkyCat can operate between 8% light and 40% heavy, thereby greatly increasing its payload capability while eliminating the need for taking on ballast on discharging its load.

Landing and takeoff distances: in STOL mode, the SkyCat can land and take off within five hull lengths, while in VTOL mode, by virtue of vectored thrust engines, the vehicles are literally able to set down and lift off in their own length.

Hull pressure: the hull is a pressure-stabilised, non-rigid structure, operating at 1%-2% pressure above ambient, with the shape maintained by ballonets (air bags) which automatically deflate and inflate to compensate for changes in outside pressure.

Material construction: the envelope is constructed of heat-bonded, high-tensile laminated fabric, incorporating a Mylar film that provides the gas barrier. The lift gas is helium and totally inert. The payload module is formed from Kevlar composite material of exceptional strength and can be configured for whatever interior design fit is required.

Military Employments
Conventionally, the SkyCat (CV/A) line of airlifters would be used to transport military payloads at all levels of logistical support operations—from across the globe to across the battlefield—and its simple, scaleable design, low maintenance and marginal costs, high maneuverability, and high reliability ensure it a place in the hearts of the IDF’s Logistical Command staff.
In terms of more "active" military employment of the CV/A system, the craft would lend themselves to distant and long-standing patrols, over-the-horizon, carrying a large number of land-attack cruise missiles. Alternately, as a homeland-defense platform, the ULA could be loaded with hundreds of CALCMs and other air-to-surface cruise missiles to provide a massive area-dominance platform (See: GATEKEEPER). Satellite- and ER-UAV-derived spotting information would allow the ULA to strike at enemy formations long before they can reach the shores of the nation or even conventional weapons range. Since the ULA could simply float above a landscape for an extended period of time, a small number of these ULAs could secure the borders of a fairly large nation. The 20-tonne variant (CV/A-4) can hoist a suite equivalent to that of a JSTARs unit, allowing these cheaper craft to maintain border defenses for long hours—really only limited by the endurance of the crewmembers. Not so invisible as a submarine but in other ways more flexible with greater speed to deploy, or to withdraw, and a very much greater war-load, a particular disadvantage of the present generation of submarines.

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Unit Specifications and Descriptions:
NOTE: Capacities are in UK Tonnes, each is equivalent to 2240lbs.

CV/A-4 ULA (SkyCat™ 20):

Overview:
The SkyCat™ 20 (CV/A-4 ULA) is a twenty-tonne (44,800 lb) payload airship for passengers, freight, and other duties combining lighter-than-air with air-cushion technologies to produce a broad elliptical hull capable of operating from any surface, but not requiring any external support infrastructure such as masts, ground-crews, etc.

The SkyCat™ 20 is the smallest in a range of Hybrid Air Vehicles ranging up to 20 tonnes payload capacity. The vehicles derive their flight capability from a mix of aerodynamic lift and helium buoyancy. Construction features to an advanced hull form and revolutionary landing system.

Vessel Total Dimensions:
Length: 82m / 269ft 0in
Height: 24.1m / 79ft 1in
Width: 41.0m / 134ft 6in

Envelope Volume
32,000 cu.m / 1,130,000 cu.ft

Payload Module Dimensions:
Length: 25.5m / 83ft 8in
Height: 2.6m / 8ft 6in
Width: 3.5m / 9ft 10in

Payload:
Standard STOL mode: 20.0 tonnes (44,800lbs)
Hover/VTOL mode: 14.5 tonnes (32,480lbs)

Range:
Bearing max payload, at cruise: 2,600 nm
Ferrying, at cruise: 5,200 nm

Operational Altitudes
Normal Operations: 9,000 ft
Maximum Operational Altitude (Operational Ceiling): 18,000 ft

Speed:
Cruise: 82+ kts (153 km/h; 95mph)
Sprint: 95+ kts (177 km/h; 110 mph)

Systems Profiles
Envelope
Laminated fabric construction hull with internal catenary system supporting the payload module. The hull's aerodynamic shape, an elliptical cross-section allied to a cambered longitudinal shape, provides up to 40% of the vehicle's lift. The internal diaphragms required to support this shape allow for a limited amount of compartmentalization thus further enhancing the fail-safe nature of the vehicle. Multiple balloonets located fore and aft in each of the outer hulls provide pressure control.

Payload Module
Located on centerline (the larger vehicles in the range provide roll on/roll off freight capability). Comprised of 3 structural elements as follows:

1) Flight Deck module:-
2 pilot stations.
Twin sidestick controls.
Large transparencies for excellent all-round visibility.
Full avionics.

2) Mid-body module:-
Payload compartment.
Two large side access doors with built-in steps. 4 seat tracks for flexible location of equipment and seating.

3) Aft-body module:-
Full width door for cargo use.

Landing System
Hover skirts on the underside of the two outer hulls provide an amphibious capability with an enhanced (compared to conventional airships) ground handling ability. Hover skirts are 'sucked in' for a clean in-flight profile and enhanced all-round visibility. System shares use of ballonet fans with hull pressure system.

Power Plant
4 x 900 bhp (780 bhp max. cont.) horizontally opposed, two-stroke, direct injection, diesel engines. Supercharged induction system. Two engines mounted forward on the hull and two on the stern of the hull for cruise operation. All four are configured in ducts with blown vanes to allow vectored thrust for take off/landing/ground handling operation.

Flight Controls
Dual-channel, optically signaled, flight control system.

Pneumatic System
Low pressure system for actuation of critical sub-systems that are required to have very low susceptibility to lightning strike and EMI.

Crew
Dependant upon mission.
Minimum: 3 (2 Flight Control Officers (FCO,Pilots) and 1 Navigation/Communications Flight Officer (NCFO).)
Cargo Missions: 4 (2 FCOs, 1 NCFO, and 1 Cargo Master Chief).
Special Combat Missions: Variable and, aside from standard staff, comparable to crew of similar combat missions. Additional onboard crew and/or passengers are located in payload bay along with any equipment that they may be operating. Up to additional 10 personnel (8 large computer work stations).

Primary Uses
Military/LE
- Light Weight/Medium Range Airlifter
- High-Endurance Area Patrol Air Vessel
- Medium Weight Area Attack Unit (if modified to bear missiles)
- High-endurance Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System (HE-JSTARs) roles
- Border and Sea Patrol

Civilian
- Low-cost tourist flights
- Light/Medium Cargo Transporter (L/MCT)
- Humanitarian aid transporter
- Advertising

Class Comparison
The capabilities of the SkyCat-20 compare very favorably with other vehicles in its class.
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----SkyCat-20__Payload (tons)___Cost per hour ($)___Cost per ton/hr ($)----
MI8 helicopter....2.5..................3,750..................1,500
Twin Otter........3.0....................825....................275
Shorts 360........4.0....................950....................238
Buffalo...........7.5..................2,350....................313
C-130 .........18.0..................3,950....................219
- SkyCat-20......20.0..................3,850....................192 -
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Pricing:
>Purchase Cost
$25-28 million (with operating costs under $1000/hour!)

>Leasing Cost(long-term basis)---------SkyCat 20
>per annum--------------------------------$10m – $11.2m
>per month--------------------------------$0.8m – $0.9m

MV/A-4 ULA (MINESEEKER / MINEHUNTER):

Overview:
The Mineseeker ULA is a modified SkyCat™ 20 (CV/A-4 ULA) that has been permanently configured to detect, and even remove, mines placed in large areas.

Land mines represent one of the major barriers to economic reconstruction after military conflict; being able to map mined areas accurately and quickly is the first step in mine clearance. The Mineseeker airship surveys land using ultra-wideband radar developed in WA and capable of detecting plastic mines; field trials have demonstrated that the system was able to survey at a rate of 100 square metres per second; compared to manual de-mining rates of 40 metres per day. This information is processed and recorded by a group of 2 personnel trained to operate the MineFinder terminal.

An important part of the barrier of wide-area mine fields is that many are poorly marked while ‘clear’ areas are believed to bear hundreds of the deadly things. It has been estimated that up to 80% of land classified as mined actually contains no mines at all, but it cannot be declared safe without a survey. The Mineseeker approach offers the possibility of reducing the cost of mine clearance in terms of time, money and lives as well as the economic benefit of bringing land back into cultivation as soon as possible. A group of Mineseekers is operated by the Mineseeker Foundation, which is connected to Western Asia’s MDA (Magen David Adom) but the ship is now going on public sale.

It is possible for a number of remotely-operated guns to be attached to the undercarriage of the Mineseeker. These guns (using 5.56 rounds) are operated by a pair of crewmembers and an AI targeting system. When information is received from the MineFinder system, the AI processes the recorded targets and the personnel fire upon the target. The guns are fired and the mines are detonated by the bullet. This allows the Mineseeker to not only find a minefield, but to clear it as well. This system has been designated the "Minehunter."

Crew
Normal: 5 (2 Flight Control Officers (FCO,Pilots), 1 Navigation/Communications Flight Officer (NCFO), and 2 MineFinder Terminal Operators).
w/ MineKiller System: 7 (2 Flight Control Officers (FCO,Pilots), 1 Navigation/Communications Flight Officer (NCFO), 2 MineFinder Terminal Operators, and 2 MineKiller Operators).

Pricing:
>Purchase Cost
(Mineseeker): $35-45 million
(Minehunter): $36-46 million

CV/A-5a ULA (SkyCat™ 200) and CV/A-5b ULA (SkyCat™ 220):
Overview:
The SkyCat™ 200/220 (CV/A-5a/b ULA) is a two-hundred-tonne payload airship for passengers, freight, and other duties combining lighter-than-air with air-cushion technologies to produce a broad elliptical hull capable of operating from any surface, but not requiring any external support infrastructure such as masts, ground-crews, etc. Two giant pontoons will allow the airship to land directly on solid surfaces or on water.

The SkyCat™ 200/220 is the mid-size craft in a range of Hybrid Air Vehicles ranging up to 1,000 tonnes payload capacity. The vehicles derive their flight capability from a mix of aerodynamic lift and helium buoyancy. Construction is based upon a series of current technologies brought together to form an evolutionary new mode of transport.

The CV/A-5 model incorporates a payload module located on the centerline with roll-on/roll-off capability for easy use and fast loading and unloading. The vehicles derive their flight capability from a mix of aerodynamic lift and helium buoyancy. Construction features to an advanced hull form and revolutionary landing system (hover skirts retain the flexibility of ground operation).

The SkyCat™ 200/220 can transport heavy equipment halfway around the world in five days at a cost of 20 cents per pound. Conventional airlifts cost $1.20 per pound, Durham says. Able to absorb to five Apache helicopters, or other heavy weaponry, within its compartment, but light enough to land in a dirt clearing, the 200/220 is great for establishing smaller forward bases quickly and at unprepared locations.

The differential naming (200/220) results from an improvement on the original (200tonne) design, which only involved the modification of an older-style cargo bay to contain more space and the upgrading of the engines to compensate. The SkyCat™ 220, or CV/A-5b, is the latest version of the 200 series but many 200-models have already been ordered or integrated into the WA Strategic Mobility Command infrastructure (upgrades are planned for some 200-type vessels, others will be distributed into civilian roles).

Vessel Total Dimensions:
Length: 185 m / 607 ft
Height: 47 m / 154 ft
Width: 77 m / 253 ft

Envelope Volume:
475,500 cu.m / 16.7M cu.ft

Payload Module Dimensions:
Length: 49.4 m / 162 ft [5b= 64m / 210ft]
Height: 5.0 m / 16ft 6in
Width: 7.5 m / 24ft 6in

Payload:
Standard STOL mode: 200.0 tonnes (448,000 pounds) [5b= 220.0 tonnes (492,800 pounds)]
Hover/VTOL mode: 140.0 tonnes (313,600 pounds) [5b= 160.0 tonnes (358,400 pounds)]

Range:
Bearing max payload, at cruise: 4,450 nm
Ferrying, at cruise: 7,700 nm

Operational Altitudes
Normal Operations: 9,000 ft
Maximum Operational Altitude (Operational Ceiling): 24,000 ft

Speed:
Cruise: 91 kts (169 km/h; 105 mph)
Sprint: 104 kts (193 km/h; 120 mph)

Systems Profiles
Envelope
Laminated fabric construction hull with internal catenary system supporting the payload module. The hull's aerodynamic shape, an elliptical cross-section allied to a cambered longitudinal shape, provides up to 40% of the vehicle's lift. The internal diaphragms required to support this shape allow for a limited amount of compartmentalization thus further enhancing the fail-safe nature of the vehicle. Multiple balloonets located fore and aft in each of the outer hulls provide pressure control.

Payload Module
Payload Module
Located on centerline providing Roll-on Roll-off (RO-RO) freight capability. Primary areas are as follows:

Flight deck forward on centerline above the forward cargo ramp.
Flight deck provides side-by-side pilot stations along with 200 sq.ft of accommodation for off-duty crew members.
Main load deck provides clear space for cargo/freight on a military rated floor structure. Mezzanine decking can be provided to give multiple lower load area.
Rear cargo ramp provides Roll-on Roll-off access to load deck. Above door aperture is a further 400 sq.ft of accommodation space.

1) Flight Deck module:-
2 pilot stations.
Twin sidestick controls.
Large transparencies for excellent all-round visibility.
Full avionics.
Abundant space and seating/operational stations for up to 12 additional crew members.

2) Mid-body module:-
Payload compartment.
Four large side access doors with built-in steps. Numerous seat tracks for flexible location of equipment and seating.

3) Aft-body module:-
Full width door for cargo use.
1, 30 and 1, 14 tonne capacity crane for cargo use.

Landing System
Hover skirts on the underside of the two outer hulls provide an amphibious capability with an enhanced (compared to conventional airships) ground handling ability. Hover skirts are 'sucked in' for a clean in-flight profile and enhanced all-round visibility. System shares use of balloonet fans with hull pressure system.

Power Plant
4 x [5a] 8,200 bhp (6,100 hp max. cont.) / [5b] 8,800 bhp (6,600 hp max. cont.) turboshaft gas turbines. An engine within each stern duct drives a propeller. A single engine configured forward on either side of the hull also within a duct. The forward engines are for ground handling and take-off. All four ducts are configured with blown vanes to allow vectored thrust for take-off, landing and ground handling operation.

Flight Controls
Dual-channel, optically signaled, flight control system.

Pneumatic System
Low pressure system for actuation of critical sub-systems that are required to have very low susceptibility to lightning strike and EMI.

Crew
Dependant upon mission.
Minimum: 4 (2 Flight Control Officers (FCO,Pilots), 1 Navigational Directions Officer (NDO), and 1 Communication Systems Officer (CSO))
Standard Cargo Missions: 6 (2 FCOs, 1 NDO, 1 CSO, and 2 Cargo Master Chiefs).
Special Combat Missions: Variable and, aside from standard staff, comparable to crew of similar combat missions. Additional onboard crew and/or passengers are located in payload bay along with any equipment that they may be operating.

Primary Uses
Military/LE
- Medium-Weight/Long-Range Airlifter
- High-Endurance Area Patrol Air Vessel
- Medium Weight Large Area Attack Unit (if modified to bear missiles)
- High-endurance Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System (HE-JSTARs) roles (combined with other missions).
- Border and Sea Patrol

Civilian
- Low-cost tourist transports
- Medium/Heavy Cargo Transporter (M/HCT)
- Humanitarian aid transporter
- Advertising

Class Comparison
The capabilities of the SkyCat-220 compare very favorably with other vehicles in its class.
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Il-76..................43.0..............3,900.................91
Boeing 747-200*........95.0..............7,450.................78
Boeing 747-400........110.0..............9,300.................85
Antonov 124...........120.0..............6,750.................56
- SkyCat-220..........220.0..............6,350.................29 -

*--Post 1990
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Pricing:
>Purchase Cost
$65-80 million (with operating costs under $1400/hour!)

>Leasing Cost(long-term basis)-----------SkyCat 220
>per annum--------------------------------$22.4m – $25.7m
>per month----------------------------------$1.8m - $2.1m

CV/A-6 ULA (SkyCat™ 600):
<NOT FOR PUBLIC SALE outside of WA>

MORE: More ULAs, Condor VTOL Transporter, PART II!

Western Asia

18-09-2003, 02:13

CV/A-7 ULA (SkyCat™ 1000):
Overview:
The SkyCat™ 1000 (CV/A-7 ULA) is a one-thousand-tonne payload airship for passengers, freight, and other duties combining lighter-than-air with air-cushion technologies to produce a broad elliptical hull capable of operating from any surface, but not requiring any external support infrastructure such as masts, ground-crews, etc. Two giant pontoons will allow the airship to land directly on solid surfaces or on water.

The SkyCat™ 1000 is the largest current vessel in a range of Hybrid Air Vehicles giving up to 1,000 tonnes payload capacity. The vehicles derive their flight capability from a mix of aerodynamic lift and helium buoyancy. Construction is based upon a series of current technologies brought together to form an evolutionary new mode of transport.

This is the Grandaddy of the ‘heavylifters’ with a 1,000-tonne payload and a length of 1,007ft (305m). It will be capable of carrying up to 16 main battle tanks or a balanced fighting force on variable decks each 11ft 6in high and 269ft in length and have a range of some 8,000nm (14,824km). SkyCat officials cite that an Armoured Cavalry Regt would need multiple C-17 flights to transport its equipment compared with only a fraction using a SkyCat 1000.

The CV/A-7 model incorporates a payload module located on the centerline with roll-on/roll-off capability for easy use and fast loading and unloading. The vehicles derive their flight capability from a mix of aerodynamic lift and helium buoyancy. Construction features to an advanced hull form and revolutionary landing system (hover skirts retain the flexibility of ground operation).

The SkyCats are dramatically new in two ways (versus older dirigibles and other modern airships). The first innovation is their shape. From the back a SkyCat will look like two Siamese blimps, with separate tails that fuse in the middle; from the front it will have the cambered profile of an airplane wing, more or less flat on the bottom and curved on top. In flight, a SkyCat will get 40 percent of its lift the way an airplane does, by diverting air downward and thereby pushing itself up. While landing, its wide, flat bottom will make it less vulnerable to the crosswinds that can roll a conventional airship.

At that point a SkyCat will reveal that it is also part hovercraft. As the airship nears the ground, giant fans inside the twin hulls will blow air down into fabric skirts, allowing the ship to set down gently on twin cushions of air. Next the fans will switch into reverse, creating a suction that anchors the SkyCat firmly to the ground. "We've finally got a vehicle that can land anywhere without anyone on the ground" says Munk, a SkyCat Corp official. "The whole thing just sits down like a limpet."

Then the ramp is lowered at the back of the 10,000-square-foot payload bay, and the tanks, trucks, and jeeps drive off. Munk reports that SkyCat 1000 units are in high demand within the IDF’s Air Mobility Command as a transport vehicle for rapid deployment forces. Magen David Adom, Western Asia’s premier aid group reports success as the SkyCats in use under the MDA carry food, disaster relief equipment, and medical supplies, or even a whole hospital, to victims of flood, famine, and other catastrophes. When a major nation used to try to, say, help evacuate flood victims in a far-off country, Munk points out, it had first to dismantle a number of helicopters, ship them by cargo airplane to the nation requiring aid, and reassemble them there. "It was pretty ridiculous" he says. "By the time they'd done that, half the floodwaters had gone." A SkyCat could have flown right in and set right down where it was needed--on the water itself, if necessary.

Other possible military uses include naval mine sweeping or as an airborne radar platform. SkyCat 1000 is particularly suitable for the latter role as it could remain "on station" for days rather than hours as is the case with aircraft. Its size means that, unlike existing airborne radar platforms, it can accommodate the large antennae needed to detect small, "stealthy" targets such as cruise missiles. The much smaller SkyCat 20 is currently employed in a similar (JSTAR-esque) role at times and has proven to be very successful in that task.

Around 450 passengers could travel in the SkyCat 1000 in comfort or 100 passengers in the kind of spacious elegance offered by an ocean liner. There could be silver- service meals, lounges, possibly a piano bar and state rooms for a comfortable night's sleep. A military transport could hold even more passengers with proper equipment and provisions.

Vessel Total Dimensions:
Length: 307 m / 1,007 ft
Height: 136 m / 446ft
Width: 77 m / 253 ft

Envelope Volume:
2,000,000 cu.m / 70.6 m cu.ft

Payload Module Dimensions:
Length: 82 m / 269 ft
Height: 12.2 m / 40 ft
Width: 8.0 m / 26 ft

Payload:
Standard STOL mode: 1000.0 tonnes (2,240,000 pounds)
Hover/VTOL mode: 725.0 tonnes (1,624,000 pounds)

Range:
Bearing max payload, at cruise: 8,200 nm
Ferrying, at cruise: 16,400nm

Operational Altitudes
Normal Operations: 9,000 ft
Maximum Operational Altitude (Operational Ceiling): 28,000 ft

Speed:
Cruise: 91 kts (169 km/h; 105 mph)
Sprint: 104 kts (193 km/h; 120 mph)

Systems Profiles
Envelope
Laminated fabric construction hull with internal catenary system supporting the payload module. The hull's aerodynamic shape, an elliptical cross-section allied to a cambered longitudinal shape, provides up to 40% of the vehicle's lift. The internal diaphragms required to support this shape allow for a limited amount of compartmentalization thus further enhancing the fail-safe nature of the vehicle. Multiple balloonets located fore and aft in each of the outer hulls provide pressure control.

Payload Module
Payload Module
Located on centerline providing Roll-on Roll-off (RO-RO) freight capability. Primary areas are as follows:

Flight deck forward on centerline above the main forward cargo ramp.
Flight deck provides side-by-side pilot accommodation along with 900 sq.ft. of accommodation for off-duty crew members.
Main load deck provides clear space for cargo/freight on a military rated floor structure. Mezzanine decking can be provided to give multiple lower load area.
Ramps fore and aft provide access to cargo area. Above door aperture is a further 2,100 sq.ft of crew/passenger accommodation space.

1) Flight Deck module:-
2 pilot stations.
Twin sidestick controls.
Large transparencies for excellent all-round visibility.
Full avionics.
Abundant space and seating/operational stations for up to 40 additional crew members.

2) Mid-body module:-
Payload compartment.
8 large side access doors with built-in steps. Numerous seat tracks for flexible location of equipment and seating.

3) Aft-body module:-
Full width door for cargo use.
2, 40 tonne capacity cranes for cargo use.

Landing System
Hover skirts on the underside of the outer hulls provide an amphibious capability with an enhanced (compared to conventional airships) ground handling ability. Hover skirts are 'sucked in' for a clean in-flight profile and enhanced all-round visibility. System shares use of ballonet fans with hull pressure system.

Power Plant
6 x 15,600 hp (12,400 hp max. cont.) turboshaft gas turbines. Two engines within each stern duct driving a common propeller. Single engines configured forwards on either side of the hull in similar ducts. Forward engines are only used for ground handling and take-off. All four ducts are configured with blown vanes to allow vectored thrust for take-off, landing and ground handling operation.

Flight Controls
Dual-channel, optically signaled, flight control system.

Pneumatic System
Low pressure system for actuation of critical sub-systems that are required to have very low susceptibility to lightning strike and EMI.

Crew
Dependant upon mission.
Minimum: 4 (2 Flight Control Officers (FCOs, Pilots), 1 Navigational Directions Officer (NDO), and 1 Communication Systems Officer (CSO))
Standard Cargo Missions: 8 (2 FCOs, 1 NDO, 1 CSO, and 3 Cargo Master Chiefs).
Special Combat Missions: Variable and, aside from standard staff, comparable to crew of similar combat missions. Additional onboard crew and/or passengers are located in payload bay along with any equipment that they may be operating.

Primary Uses
Military/LE
- Super-heavyweight/Long-Range Airlifter
- High-Endurance Regional Patrol Air Vessel
- Heavyweight Large Area Attack Unit (if modified to bear missiles)
- High-endurance Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System (HE-JSTARs) roles (combined with other missions).
- Border and Sea Patrol

Civilian
- Low-cost tourist and long-range transports
- Superheavy Cargo Transporter (SHCT)
- Humanitarian aid transporter
- Advertising
- Zonal Communications Support Platform (ZCSP)

Pricing:
>Purchase Cost
$240-260 million (operating costs under $2000/hour!)

>Leasing Cost(long-term basis)----------SkyCat 1000
>per annum--------------------------------$80m – $90m
>per month----------------------------------$7m - $7.5m

BMV/A-7 ULA (GATEKEEPER):

The Gatekeeper is a concept craft in development that would provide long-term, wide-area protection of national and regional borders against invading forces. Employing a system similar to that of the Sleeverian BM-747 Stand-Off Missile Delivery Platform (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44821&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0), the GATEKEEPER would be deployed with up to several dozen internal rotary missile launchers (AKA ‘clip’. Note: the BM-747 bears about 12 (96 missiles)). Unlike the BM-747s, however, the Gatekeeper would be able to simply sit over an area, as on-board long-range radar seeks out targets. Then, when enemy fleets or forces are seen, the Gatekeeper opens its bomb-bay doors and rotary launch pods are presented.

A single BMV/A could eliminate entire invasion forces with a single load of missiles. Thanks to the format of the SkyCat 1000’s transport bays, a couple of parallel bomb-bays could be set side-by side, allowing the BMV/A to launch several cruise missiles at once, multiplying the power and speed of its strikes against enemy fleets and formations. The upper deck of the Gatekeeper can be used to reload emptied ‘missile clips’ with cruise missiles stored ‘on-hand.’ By this means, a single Gatekeeper could continue operations for an extended time period (a few weeks) over the covered area, even reloading some of the expended missiles without landing.

Many of the PDE-improved cruise and precision-guided missiles proven in recent combat near Ell, launched from BM-747s, would also be capable of being used within the Gatekeeper system. These systems include improved Popeye II Have Lites, AGM-154A and C JSOWs, and AGM-86D and E CALCMS. Each of the missile engines have had Pulse Detonation Engines* incorporated, to extend their range and increase their speed. The CALCMs**, have had their speed boosted to a sustained 1.5 mach. A full-production run of these PDE-CALCMs is being begun already, both to please Western Asian commanders who’ve been pleased with the PDE-improved CALCMs’ performance and at the behest of allied nations that have requested access to the line of missiles.

Other modified missiles are also under consideration for development. Their types include:
-RADAR-SEEKING missile - homes-in on ship radar pulses (based on the HARM missile)
-RADAR-IMAGE missile - seeks a ships radar profile
-TORPEDO missile - releases a homing torpedo near the fleet (Similar to an ASROC)
-INFRA-RED missile - seeks heat produced by engines
-MAGNETIC missile - seeks metal
-ACOUSTIC missile - seeks the sound produced by engines
-FOCAL PLANE ARRAY missile - seeks large objects of a certain shape which are a different shade of color than the background
-RADIO WAVE missile - seeks out radio waves produced by communication systems (based on the HARM-R missile)

A variety of warheads, from HE to submunitions-scattering to EMP, could be employed in this role.

A variety of defensive systems would also be deployed with the Gatekeeper but the exact specifications have not yet been released. It is said that the systems might even include a number of UCAVs that would be deployed to intercept hostile aircraft.

Crew
Minimum: 19 (2 Flight Control Officers (FCO,Pilots), 1 Navigational Directions / Targeting Officer (ND/TO), 1 Communication Systems Officer (CSO), 6 Radar System Technicians (RSTs, + Targeting AI, operate in roles similar to radar techs aboard JSTARs), 2 Defensive Weapons Officers (DWOs, run and monitor defensive actions for the Gatekeeper), 1 EW/ECM Officer (EWO), 2 Bombardiers (+ Weapons Control AI, choose and fire upon targets), and 4 Ammunition Control Officers (ACOs, reload the missile clips).

Extended-term Missions: 30 (3 FCOs, 2 ND/TO, 2 CSO, 9 RSTs, + Targeting AI, 3 DWOs, 2 EWOs, 3 Bombardiers + Weapons Control AI, and 6 ACOs.)

Current Project Status: For now, only two SkyCat 1000s are set to be constructed with the Gatekeeper systems installed. It is expected that foreign interest will precipitate a more expanded production run than would otherwise be possible, paving the way for an expanded Gatekeeper fleet. Testing of the first of the GATEKEEPER systems has been very successful against simulated targets and is now being integrated into the IDF command and logistical structure. A third Gatekeeper unit is rumored to be set aside for Sleeverian use.

Estimated Pricing:
>Purchase Cost
$280-300 million (not counting missiles)

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*- Information about this can be seen in the thread developing the Sambizian S-43 series of craft.

**- CALCMs (Stats: nominal: "600nm" reality: more/ nominal: "High subsonic" reality: more)

AGM-86D can employ a steep terminal attack angle, boasts hundreds of miles range, and uses the BROACH system, whereby small initial charge followed by a large "follow-through" main charge (a principle similar to some dual-charge anti-fortification weapons): a 3,000 lb penetrating warhead. Incindiary materials are added to the shell in my modification.

The AGM-86E is reportedly a version with a range of 1350 – 1620nm and boasts similar specs (for my purposes).

Guidance includes (according to GlobalSecurity): Litton Inertial Navigation Element integrated with an onboard Global Positioning System.

Note: These are top-attack weapons so side-armoring of ships is mostly useless and while it may not sink any ships directly (by punching a hole in the side), there's a high chance that any fuel stored in the ship could be hit and that weapons and command crew, if they're using US-style ships, will be screwed. :wink:

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Artists’ Conceptions and Pictures:
A 200-ton capacity ULA (CV/A-5) sits on the airfield at Camp Masada, awaiting off-loading (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/skycat_200_mil_01.jpg)
The same ULA unloading vehicles (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/skycat_200_mil_02.jpg)
Another CV/A-5 cruises by bunkered hangars in WA (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/skycat_200_mil_03.jpg)
The Interior of a CV/A-5 (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/skycat_200_mil_04.jpg)
A cut-away of the cargo bay for the CV/A series (displayed is that of a CV/A-5) (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/skycat_200_mil_05.jpg)
A modeled image of the CV/A-7 (http://istoedigital.terra.com.br/img/transp_zepellin_1_05102001.jpg)
A CV/A-4 on Naval patrol duties (http://www.worldskycat.com/improved/skyconverted_375/patrola.jpg)

A demonstration of scales (http://www.worldskycat.com/images/compare_wsk.jpg)

Costs:
Developmental Costs:
$2 billion in final development stages (including testing, improvements, and force integration measures). $420 million was spent on the development-advancement program for the Gatekeeper concept system, not including the cost of the two initial units, which comes out to about $700 million all-told.

Total program development cost (including ALL model types): $5bn to date (over 15 years, 3/4 of funds spent in last 5 years of development)

Foreign-Entity Unit Acquisition Costs (production and sale, not total development unit cost)
CV/A-7 ULA (SkyCat™ 1000): $240-260 million
BMV/A-7 ULA (Gatekeeper): $280-300 million
CV/A-6 ULA (SkyCat™ 600): Negotiable (est. $115-140 million)
CV/A-5a ULA (SkyCat™ 200): <Void, all new-productions are of type-5b>
CV/A-5b ULA (SkyCat™ 220): $65-80 million
CV/A-4 ULA (SkyCat™ 20): $25-28 million
MV/A-4a ULA Mineseeker): $35-45 million
MV/A-4b ULA (Minehunter): $36-46 million

Unit Inventory in Western Asia

Military:
NOTE: Includes those units available to Delta Triumvirate on an ‘On-call’ basis. Numbers in parenthesis indicate 10-year acquisition goal.
CV/A-7 ULA (SkyCat™ 1000): 55 (75)
BMV/A-7 ULA (Gatekeeper): 2 (8)
CV/A-6 ULA (SkyCat™ 600): 30 (40)
CV/A-5a ULA (SkyCat™ 200): 80
CV/A-5b ULA (SkyCat™ 220): 20 (60)
CV/A-4 ULA (SkyCat™ 20): 80 (140)

Other Governmental/Paragovernmental:
CV/A-7 ULA (SkyCat™ 1000): 8 (4 Magen David Adom, 3 Agricultural, 1 Dept. of Interior)
CV/A-6 ULA (SkyCat™ 600): 5 (2 Magen David Adom, 2 Dept. of Interior, 1 Agricultual)
CV/A-5a ULA (SkyCat™ 200): 6 (Dept. of Interior)
CV/A-5b ULA (SkyCat™ 220): 12 (5 Magen David Adom, 7 Agricultural)
CV/A-4 ULA (SkyCat™ 20): 42 (12 Magen David Adom, 8 Agricultural, 22 Dept. of Interior)
MV/A-4 ULA (Mineseeker): 5
MV/A-4 ULA (Minehunter): 2

Civilian (commercially-held):
NOTE: These units could be pressed into military service with the Civil Air Reserve.
CV/A-7 ULA (SkyCat™ 1000): 18
CV/A-6 ULA (SkyCat™ 600): 30
CV/A-5a ULA (SkyCat™ 200): 27
CV/A-5b ULA (SkyCat™ 220): 22
CV/A-4 ULA (SkyCat™ 20): 8

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Condor VTOL "Dropship" Craft

COMING SOON

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PART II: SEA-TRANSPORTS

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High Speed Vessel (HSV) Strategic Sealift Craft

High Speed Vessels/Fast Troop Transporters (HSVs/FTTs) after much delay, specs are on their way...A classification of the larger, originally planned version is to be announced, smaller version is what has been in production and use by WA forces recently to great success.

Based on a Catamaran design, can move hundreds of soldiers or many vehicles with relative ease at high speeds. Has a pair of super-heavy cranes for loading/unloading, unloads from the rear and has RO/RO facilities from the rear. Basically a militarized version of a Catamaran ferryboat, larger with a VTOL deck capable of bearing 3-4 medium-sized helicopters (Blackhawks), 2 Large helicopters (Sea Stallions), many smaller helicopters (Little Birds), or 1 Large VTOL craft (a WA Sentinel). While not nearly as stealthy as its cousin, the SOCSt2, the other HSV models bear a certain number of passive "stealthy" features.

The HSV uses the proven catamaran ferry design but with upgrades to meet battle survivability demands and longer-range mission requirements.

2 designs (both successfully fielded) will be offered and each will include several configurations including the following:
Basic Cargo Transporter (HSV-BCT), Special Operations Command Ship, type 2 (SOCSt2), Fast Troop Transporter (HSV-FTT), Near-shore Hospital/Disaster Relief (NSH/DF).

UPDATE COMING SOON, ALONG WITH OTHER NAVAL FAST SHIPS

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