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Moron Mod Ruling on NSG

Many of us moan about the awful ruling style of the NSG mods on the ‘new’ forum.

It’s unfair & unbalanced, biased, inconsequent, too repressive etc etc etc.

This thread is dedicated to that shit. You can post here examples of the NSG mods their bad rulings behaviour.

Example:



sorry i was bored so shut up u !@#!!@#??/"$#@@!s :mad: :(

There is no reason to be hostile toward people helping you. It's the fastest way to alienate folks around here.


Source:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=1339952&sid=48554d73231b30eaf4258e1c63a424eb#p1339952

Ok, Drunk guys is probably a c*nt with no balls, real men with cojones don't use @#!!@#??/"$#@@!s.

But semi-warning him for THAT? Come on, get laid Kryozerkia!

Dude, no offense, I really don't care about you, I mean I'm sorry most people don't take you seriously. Your honestly not worth the thought. So its nothing against you either way.

*sigh* Warned for flamebait.

That would normally draw just a "Cut it out". But since you' were told to cool it just a couple of posts ago, evidently only red text will make the point.

Source:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=1345183#p1345183

Is THAT a flamebait??? Get a life Ardchoille!!!

The fact that a MOD posted it makes it even more egregious. As a supporter of, campaigner for and voter for Prop 8, I find LG’s implication that supporters thereof are equivalent to Klansmen exceptionally offensive. There is absolutely no factual support for such a statement, or any purpose for such a post other than to enrage Prop 8 supporters. Smileys don’t make up for it.

So it essentially boils down into "I disagree with what these people are saying, give them warnings"?

You cannot demand that people be held accountable to terms that you yourself have yet to accept.



NS, you're kind of calling the kettle black here. You're one of the worst about that sort of thing. Moreover, this thread is pretty clearly marked as Mods Only and you're not being accused or offering any additional/mitigating evidence. Warned for spamming Moderation


Source:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=1329056#p1329056

I never understood why other people often are not allowed to play witnesses of the crime scene in the Moderation Section.

North Suran is accused of spamming that section. Spamming with 1 posting...

hehe read both those earlier today and my thoughts were along the lines of 'why is NSG being turned into a kindergarten?'...I mean it has (as I mentioned before) been a heavily moderated site but this is too much. And then there was the prayer thread ....the last one you posted...that...that was hilarious. And really quite sad.

not so much ruling...rather ...amusing.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=32807

not so much ruling...rather ...amusing.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=32807

Mod1: We have everything under control, that nation is destroyed
User1: But he's here again
Mod2: No worries, he will never return
User2: Eh, he's back here...
Mod3: Ok, but this time...
User3: ...he's in Sports too!
Mod1: But now he's killed
Spammer: Fire the worst mods or...
Mod1: We don't talk with terrorists
User1: Who are the worst mods? I like to kiss the ass of all mods.
Mod2: Don't talk about it, User1, we don't speculate
Mod3: Ok, he's gone now
User2: Nope, he's here now, he's having the nick Mud Focker
...

Wahahahaha :)

Mod1: We have everything under control, that nation is destroyed
User1: But he's here again
Mod2: No worries, he will never return
User2: Eh, he's back here...
Mod3: Ok, but this time...
User3: ...he's in Sports too!
Mod1: But now he's killed
Spammer: Fire the worst mods or...
Mod1: We don't talk with terrorists
User1: Who are the worst mods? I like to kiss the ass of all mods.
Mod2: Don't talk about it, User1, we don't speculate
Mod3: Ok, he's gone now
User2: Nope, he's here now, he's having the nick Mud Focker
...

Wahahahaha :)

succinct and even more amusing!

My favourite post was the one about rolling out the big guns...well...you could IP block an entire ISP if you really want to... :D

Moron Mod Ruling on NSG

Many of us moan about the awful ruling style of the NSG mods on the ‘new’ forum.

It’s unfair & unbalanced, biased, inconsequent, too repressive etc etc etc.

This thread is dedicated to that shit. You can post here examples of the NSG mods their bad rulings behaviour.

Example:



Source:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=1339952&sid=48554d73231b30eaf4258e1c63a424eb#p1339952

Ok, Drunk guys is probably a c*nt with no balls, real men with cojones don't use @#!!@#??/"$#@@!s.

But semi-warning him for THAT? Come on, get laid Kryozerkia!
You would whine about the mods, you troll. I have been on NS over a year and have never been forum banned, , unless it was when I was on the forums much so I was unaware of it.

You would whine about the mods, you troll. I have been on NS over a year and have never been forum banned, , unless it was when I was on the forums much so I was unaware of it.

Nah, I wasn't doing that much trolling, flaming and stuff.

I was more a type that bickered about the rulings of the mods with the mods.

They didn't like it. :)

You would whine about the mods, you troll. I have been on NS over a year and have never been forum banned, , unless it was when I was on the forums much so I was unaware of it.


I got 48 hour banned once. Hypersensitive mod didn't like me calling some schmuck an idiot. Also got slapped with a warning for trolling once, which made no sense to me, but oh well.

Nah, I wasn't doing that much trolling, flaming and stuff.

I was more a type that bikkered about the rulings of the mods with the mods.

They didn't like it. :)

I recall I got zapped along those lines myself...warned I believe...never banned...but yeah they do tend to get incredibly defensive when you question their rulings...

I recall I got zapped along those lines myself...warned I believe...never banned...but yeah they do tend to get incredibly defensive when you question their rulings...
Scolpendra or something was called a tough mod. Did you and/or HK ever question that mod?

Scolpendra or something was called a tough mod. Did you and/or HK ever question that mod?

I have problems remembering what happened yesterday let alone what happened 5 or 6 years ago :lol:

Aw man, is someone butthurt about getting banned for being a total douche?

Get a freaking life.


hehe read both those earlier today and my thoughts were along the lines of 'why is NSG being turned into a kindergarten?'
Because people like HK are acting like kindergarteners, and ruining it for the rest of us.

Because people like HK are acting like kindergarteners, and ruining it for the rest of us.

Well I have not seen HK's handiwork so I cannot possibly comment on that but I have noticed that there seems be a preponderance of thin skinned posters...

Source:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=1329056#p1329056

I never understood why other people often are not allowed to play witnesses of the crime scene in the Moderation Section.

North Suran is accused of spamming that section. Spamming with 1 posting...

I posted the thread in question. I limited it to Mods only exactly because I didn't want it cluttered up with moronic posts like NS regularly produces. It was a question that only Mods could answer, and on which anyone else had nothing effective to contribute.

As for NS spamming moderation, it only takes one spam posting to get that warning. Posting in a Mods-only thread when you're not a Mod or a party directly involved in the dispute is a classic example of spamming.

All the ones posted here seem to be a case of posters who've just finished reading "Baby's First Personal Insults" and decided to flame ineffectively. That they're shit at it doesn't mean the gentle warning (in once case, not even a warning) is a bad idea. Those who behave like kindergarteners will be treated like kindergarteners.

I remember it happening pretty much the same on Jolt, to be honest. I agree the quality of moderation has been a bit of a problem since the move from here, but I'm not sure the posts provided so far are really evidence of this.

All the ones posted here seem to be a case of posters who've just finished reading "Baby's First Personal Insults" and decided to flame ineffectively. That they're shit at it doesn't mean the gentle warning (in once case, not even a warning) is a bad idea. Those who behave like kindergarteners will be treated like kindergarteners.

I remember it happening pretty much the same on Jolt, to be honest. I agree the quality of moderation has been a bit of a problem since the move from here, but I'm not sure the posts provided so far are really evidence of this.

How can my lamb recipe be kindergartenish? ! etc

Well I have not seen HK's handiwork so I cannot possibly comment on that but I have noticed that there seems be a preponderance of thin skinned posters...

Also true. Most of the time it's the posters -- and their apparent inability to recognize sarcasm and humour, along with the complete lack of any amusing or interesting posters since all of the above seem to have left -- who irritate me more than the mods, although there have been times when I've been sitting there screaming at the computer screen "Ban this freakin' asshole already, you idiots," or "What the fuck do you mean warning for flaming, that was obviously a joke."

Well, not literally screaming. It was in my head. Don't look at me like that!

Also true. Most of the time it's the posters -- and their apparent inability to recognize sarcasm and humour, along with the complete lack of any amusing or interesting posters since all of the above seem to have left -- who irritate me more than the mods, although there have been times when I've been sitting there screaming at the computer screen "Ban this freakin' asshole already, you idiots," or "What the fuck do you mean warning for flaming, that was obviously a joke."

Well, not literally screaming. It was in my head. Don't look at me like that!

hmmm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/vonbek/dancing-with-cats.jpg

Aw man, is someone butthurt about getting banned for being a total douche?

Get a freaking life.



Because people like HK are acting like kindergarteners, and ruining it for the rest of us.

Stop kissing the ass of the mods, you are not on NSG anymore, this is Jolt, little howler.

There's a big, no a huge, difference in the behaviour of the mods since the migration from here to NSG (the behaviour change started a little before the actual move).
No, it wasn't always perfect here too. But it was better. Not a little, but much better.

Mods allowed much more, by instance mild flames were allowed, the mods were also more active as an user, while not wearing their mod hat, on the forum. Controversial topics were allowed. Present times, almost everything is labelled as ‘trolling’.

Today, they are more trigger ‘WARNING’ happy as before. They brag about it to each other. It seems that it is a sport to rule out the most warnings, bans, DoSSes and DEATs. Pathetic.

About 40 to 50 'old' regulars left NSG in the last 2 or 3 months. And some of them were the backbone of the NSG society. And hell no, they are not replaced by some talent of the YouTube-styled people.

While moving out is a normal process, it isn't that normal anymore when the numbers are too high.

But of course according some mod-ass-kissers it's all the fault of the ones that left. The mods themselves go in denial and ignore the exodus.


PS: The mods didn't ban me, I left NSG voluntary. Just like most of the regulars that left the forum recently. And they all sing the same song: they left about the above.

PS2: I received about 5 warnings and a couple of bans. Not for ruining your life (I didn't troll and flame a lot), but for bickering about the mods their rulings. They often didn't follow their own ridiculous rules, when you put that in their face then you receive WARNINGS and BANS. :)

And the leftist twits on this board couldn't be more predictable.
Warned for flamebaiting
You got a three day vacation for this before, knock it off.

Source:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=1351105#p1351105

But the leftist twits are really predictable, just like the right twits.
How can you punish one for THAT? It's the truth! And 3 entire days?
If Messonia said "And the rightist twits on this board couldn't be more predictable." then they wouldn't 'punish' him.

And still, some are saying that nothing is changed on NSG. That the mods are as 'likely' as on Jolt. Well, fuck you, it isn't.

Politics will only move forward when the left wing dies a painful death.

Clearly you haven't learned a single thing from the multitude of warnings you've received, as well as the 2 three day bans. This is your last break and your last chance to clean up your act.
7-day ban for continuing on with your trolling remarks.

Source:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=1349090#p1349090

Here's another example. I don't know Brogavia, but I'm sure that he really doesn't wish a painful death for the entire left wing. He's exaggerating and thus making a small joke.

But Euroslavia has a carrot in his ass and can't stand a joke about the left wing. SEVEN DAYS BAN for making a joke. Well, that's a joke.

Boys and girls: don't make jokes about the left. And avoid jokes about fat Americans too. Most mods are Americans and some do have a fat ass.
And don't even think about it to make jokes about left fat Americans! What a big relief for Michael 'Fat Ass' Moore!

I got 48 hour banned once. Hypersensitive mod didn't like me calling some schmuck an idiot. Also got slapped with a warning for trolling once, which made no sense to me, but oh well.

Khadgar, can you find the source? That would be nice. :)

Okay, that Brogavia one I'll give you. I declare it be very silly.

It's clearly suggesting a "political death" not an actual physical death to all those who currently hold a certain political ideology. Overreaction ahoy! Silly modface.

Okay, that Brogavia one I'll give you. I declare it be very silly.

It's clearly suggesting a "political death" not an actual physical death to all those who currently hold a certain political ideology. Overreaction ahoy! Silly modface.

DI, few years ago, on Jolt the people would have asked Brogavia questions about it:

• How will you manage the painful death of all lefties?
• How will you detect those lefties?
• How would you torture and eliminate them in a descent pace?
• Who will pay the bill of this elimination?
• Should the government work out the elimination or should they outsource the job to a private company? And to which companies?

It would be fun.

Today, such boy is banned for 7 days.

DI, few years ago, on Jolt the people would have asked Brogavia questions about it:

• How will you manage the painful death of all lefties?
• How will you detect those lefties?
• How would you torture and eliminate them in a descent pace?
• Who will pay the bill of this elimination?
• Should the government work out the elimination or should they outsource the job to a private company? And to which companies?

It would be fun.

Today, such boy is banned for 7 days.

Oh, and it'd be me asking all those questions. That's why it sucks. People who make silly impractical arguments are what I feed on for most of my material. When they're banned within minutes it doesn't give a very big window.

It's fine though. So long as LG continues to mention tacos and mud, NSG will remain the funniest place in the entire universe, right?

Oh, and it'd be me asking all those questions. That's why it sucks. People who make silly impractical arguments are what I feed on for most of my material. When they're banned within minutes it doesn't give a very big window.

It's fine though. So long as LG continues to mention tacos and mud, NSG will remain the funniest place in the entire universe, right?

He can put his tacos in his mud ass. :)
LG, if you're reading this (and I know you will): you're not funny!

Now, I have to admit, NSG isn't counting enough posters anymore of the calibre that would joke around Brogavia. The rest is conditioned to report it in the Moderation Section.

Hey, the ‘problem’ is solved now, no? No, it isn’t. An amazing big group of talent ran away from the forum in a very short time.

In short: Quand tous les dégoûtés seront partis, il ne restera plus que les dégoûtants.

Solve the crisis: buy a slave


yeah, why not?
i mean, many people dont have a job and do nothing more as playing wii or x-box for an entire day.
why cant we, the people that work hard, use them as slaves? whats so wrong about slaves? the bible is approving it, the quran is, so who are we people to fight the holy scripts?
its a shame that slavery isnt legal.

what do you guys think about it?


Source:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=32639


Shame really - conceptually, it might have been an interesting debate.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=32639


Source:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=32640#p1306551


First of all, I will concur with Melkor that advocating slavery, in the way that TA did, is trolling. An argument in favour of slavery that didn't suggest that people who play videogames and the like are worthless and deserve to be enslaved would not necessarily be, however.

Moreover, Traditional Ameurica appears to have reading difficulties. There is a thread at the top of the Moderation forum instructing posters not to spam in Moderation. The official rule thread, which was linked earlier, also prohibits it. In case this will help, here's an official warning for spamming and flamebaiting (another useful term you should acquaint yourself with, herein exemplified in your "unamerican" comments towards various posters).


Also, to clear the matter up, this forum is technically run under Australian law, and administrated by an Australian citizen from Melbourne, which is a city in Australia. The servers are hosted in Canada. Moreover, the FAQ and OSRS are very clear on what rights you do and do not have here. If you disagree, you're welcome to go make your own forum instead.


Source:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=1306745#p1306745

This is so typical NSG modern times style….

Suddenly some guy entered the forum, with a nice topic, hided in some humour…
The author of the OP is a new guy, not really used with the ins and outs of NSG

Grave_n_idle reports it, he likes the idea of the OP, but still he feels the need to kiss some mod ass. Why? Probably because Grave_n_idle is a fucking moron.

Now, look how the mods are enjoying the rimming.

Traditional Ameurican is confused in the first place, because his thread was locked and no one said why. He’s clearly new and is asking questions about why his fucking thread is fucking locked.

The mods could explain and help out the new guy, instead next to locking his thread, they give him a warning for:

• Trolling.

Czardas said that Melkor thinks too that advocating slavery is trolling. Yes? Where did Melkor said that? Later Czardas created another lie, by telling that the OP is about all gamers that should be enslaved. But the OP isn’t about that…

• Not reading the forum ‘manuals’

Hello? He’s new!

• Spamming

Since he’s new, he’s asking questions in the Moderation Section. Which seems to be VERBOTEN, also for new people.

• Flamebaiting

Where? By saying that some of the forum rules are un-American? But that’s the truth, some are really un-american!

Can those two stupid mods remove the carrots from their arses? You don’t have to lie and get some skin and a sense for humour.

Stop kissing the ass of the mods, you are not on NSG anymore, this is Jolt, little howler.
Haha, that's about the level of reading comprehension fail I expect from you as a matter of course.


There's a big, no a huge, difference in the behaviour of the mods since the migration from here to NSG (the migration started a little before the actual move).
No, it wasn't always perfect here too. But it was better. Not a little, but much better.
I haven't noticed any change, apart from the loss of the yellow card/red card system and some new mods showing up later on. One thing I did notice was posters becoming a lot more hostile towards one another and apparently losing their sense of humour. I imagine a lot of people I liked simply never made the switch to the new boards, and the ones I dldn't like grated on me.

Such as you, which is why I'm ignoring most of your post.


PS: The mods didn't ban me, I left NSG voluntary. Just like most of the regulars that left the forum recently. And they all sing the same song: they left about the above.
You won't be missed much, I suspect.


PS2: I received about 5 warnings and a couple of bans. Not for ruining your life (I didn't troll and flame a lot), but for bickering about the mods their rulings. They often didn't follow their own ridiculous rules, when you put that in their face then you receive WARNINGS and BANS. :)
No surprise given that you're apparently questioning every single mod ruling made in the last couple of days in this thread. (And yes, I mean, I'd probably rule differently in many cases if I were a mod, and hold my forum to different rules, but I can't find in me the energy or desire to complain about it.) Maybe they just banned you because you were annoying, and less annoying people wouldn't get banned. Just a thought.

I know if I were a mod you (and probably quite a few other posters) would have been banned on NSG a long time ago. But thankfully I'm not, so you had to leave voluntarily on your own accord that had nothing to do with your large number of warnings and bans and tendency to get into trouble. :rolleyes:

Source:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=1339952&sid=48554d73231b30eaf4258e1c63a424eb#p1339952

Ok, Drunk guys is probably a c*nt with no balls, real men with cojones don't use @#!!@#??/"$#@@!s.

But semi-warning him for THAT? Come on, get laid Kryozerkia!

Just for clarification, Kryo's post wasn't even a semi-warning, as there's nothing on the offender's record. It was simply advice.

Just for clarification, Kryo's post wasn't even a semi-warning, as there's nothing on the offender's record. It was simply advice.

Hey Euroslavia,

Well, in that case, why is Kryo posting an 'advice' and using the red font?

I'm 100% sure that take 3 or 4 years ago, Kryo nor any other mod would say something about it: it's soooooo light, that it isn't worth any advice.

Hey Euroslavia,

Well, in that case, why is Kryo posting an 'advice' and using the red font?

I'm 100% sure that take 3 or 4 years ago, Kryo nor any other mod would say something about it: it's soooooo light, that it isn't worth any advice.

Sometimes the red font is simply to state that it's a moderator giving out something official. In this case, it's just advice. If it were a true warning, we would've used the actual warning code.

We have a different crowd of people around compared to 3 or 4 years ago, and I'd actually have to agree with you. However, I do believe that the advice in this case is appropriate. Just my opinion as a player though.

Sometimes the red font is simply to state that it's a moderator giving out something official. In this case, it's just advice. If it were a true warning, we would've used the actual warning code.

We have a different crowd of people around compared to 3 or 4 years ago, and I'd actually have to agree with you. However, I do believe that the advice in this case is appropriate. Just my opinion as a player though.

It doesn't take much effort to retrieve much worser stuff as !@#!!@#??/"$#@@!s and these aren't adviced. That's making the advice inconsequent.

But I certainly agree that NSG had 'different' people a few years back. By instance, Brogavia would be fleshed out by the people in those days. And THAT was the charm of NSG. You wouldn't have the need to ban him. By being too repressive you have killed the fun for us. However, I don't see that much users anymore on NSG which are capable to debunk Brogavia his opinion in an accepted, funny and pleasant way.

But it's a story of the chicken or the egg, who was first? Was it the change in the approach of the mods or the change in the average user quality? IMHO, it came together and influenced each other.

You won't be missed much, I suspect.



Of course not. Who said I'm pretending it?

Any cemetery is full of people who fancied themselves indispensable.

Euroslavia,

I've a question about this forum.

You are still wearing the 'NationStates Moderator Team' title. I thought that they removed all the mod 'rights' from the former mod team.

I know there's still some very light moderation here, but who are the mods, and what will they do about this forum in the near future?

HK, you're nothing more than a foolishly foolish simpleton who can't even effectively troll. Why don't you just give it up? Oh right, you seem deluded into believe that if you repeatedly post some semi-illiterate attempt at extortion you'll miraculously be restored.

Why even bother to post rulings? The rulings you've posted here were directed at other players, and at that, weren't even official warnings. The rulings have zero bearing on your mere, pathetic existence.

HK, you're nothing more than a foolishly foolish simpleton who can't even effectively troll. Why don't you just give it up? Oh right, you seem deluded into believe that if you repeatedly post some semi-illiterate attempt at extortion you'll miraculously be restored.

Why even bother to post rulings? The rulings you've posted here were directed at other players, and at that, weren't even official warnings. The rulings have zero bearing on your mere, pathetic existence.

Criticizing HK means you're a mod ass kisser, Farflorin. This is Jolt! You don't need to suck up to the mods here! Wake up and realize how much you're being oppressed by the evil, player-alienating Mod Conspiracy! It's posters like you who, through your failure to revolt against the repressive and paranoid mods, caused an enormous number of unnamed but evidently important regulars to leave NSG!

I miss the Mod Conspiracy. And that one time pictures of the Mod Centre were leaked. Wonder what happened to The Smoking Man.

HK, you're nothing more than a foolishly foolish simpleton who can't even effectively troll. Why don't you just give it up? Oh right, you seem deluded into believe that if you repeatedly post some semi-illiterate attempt at extortion you'll miraculously be restored.

Why even bother to post rulings? The rulings you've posted here were directed at other players, and at that, weren't even official warnings. The rulings have zero bearing on your mere, pathetic existence.

Kryo, why hide behind a puppet? At least have the decency to post using the account everyone knows you by.

EDIT: Although I totally agree with you, HK is a pretty pathetic little man.

Criticizing HK means you're a mod ass kisser, Farflorin. This is Jolt! You don't need to suck up to the mods here! Wake up and realize how much you're being oppressed by the evil, player-alienating Mod Conspiracy! It's posters like you who, through your failure to revolt against the repressive and paranoid mods, caused an enormous number of unnamed but evidently important regulars to leave NSG!

I miss the Mod Conspiracy. And that one time pictures of the Mod Centre were leaked. Wonder what happened to The Smoking Man.

Everyone knows the Mods are watching us. The conspiracy lives on. They know everything, and it is always in your interest to ass kiss. You never know when they're going to find out what you're doing behind their back. We lived in a dictatorship and some of us learned that the only way to not vanish into the dead of the night was to act submissive, like good little denizens. Don't rattle the bird cage as it were. ;)

The Smoking Man. Didn't he become Hammerab? In either event, he was a genius, a true genius at that.

Kryo, why hide behind a puppet? At least have the decency to post using the account everyone knows you by.

EDIT: Although I totally agree with you, HK is a pretty pathetic little man.

I fail to see what you mean. This was originally used to come and retrieve my factbook, which for some reason I cannot get because the link I have in my signature is broken. I just happened to innocently stumble onto this post. Oh, and if I were truly a mod, don't you think I would use my account instead of some piddling puppet with a post count that is utterly shameful? This main is awesome (except for the fact that I couldn't name it Florin -- some ass clown took it before I could get to it). :tongue:

I fail to see what you mean. This was originally used to come and retrieve my factbook, which for some reason I cannot get because the link I have in my signature is broken. I just happened to innocently stumble onto this post. Oh, and if I were truly a mod, don't you think I would use my account instead of some piddling puppet with a post count that is utterly shameful? This main is awesome (except for the fact that I couldn't name it Florin -- some ass clown took it before I could get to it). :tongue:

http://forums.joltonline.com/showpost.php?p=14140262&postcount=24

http://forums.joltonline.com/showpost.php?p=14141076&postcount=42

You are Kryozerkia.

oh prawned! awesomely so! LOL

Euroslavia,

I've a question about this forum.

You are still wearing the 'NationStates Moderator Team' title. I thought that they removed all the mod 'rights' from the former mod team.

I know there's still some very light moderation here, but who are the mods, and what will they do about this forum in the near future?

They did, but for some odd reason I still have my title. No powahs though. I assumed that Jolt officials would eventually pick up the lack of modly figures here, but it seems like it's just being ignored.

My guess is that eventually this forum will be closed down, but given a lot of their forum traffic was due to this site, it might be in their interests to not do so, at least for now.

HK, you're nothing more than a foolishly foolish simpleton who can't even effectively troll. Why don't you just give it up? Oh right, you seem deluded into believe that if you repeatedly post some semi-illiterate attempt at extortion you'll miraculously be restored.

Why even bother to post rulings? The rulings you've posted here were directed at other players, and at that, weren't even official warnings. The rulings have zero bearing on your mere, pathetic existence.

Hello Kryozerkia,

Thanks for your input. :)

http://forums.joltonline.com/showpost.php?p=14140262&postcount=24

http://forums.joltonline.com/showpost.php?p=14141076&postcount=42

You are Kryozerkia.

That information is sorely out of date, I'm sorry to say. While she did control it for a while, she returned it to me after keeping it warm for a while. You do know she gave away a number of accounts including Farflorin when she became a mod and has just the one. Farflorin had been originally made by me when I had join (the war mentioned in the factbook, which I didn't write, was the starting point) but when I stopped playing for a while (a few years), I let her babysit this little nation of mine.

Don'tcha just hate it when you think you were right but in the end you're so wrong you have no idea how wrong you are? :tongue:

By the way, don't call me a "she", I'm totally male and straight as a one dollar bill baby. :D

By the way, don't call me a "she",

Nobody did that.

Oh, doesn't this totally smack of those movie moments where the good cop has infiltrated the ring of drug dealers and criminals by subterfuge, but things he says by chance make them suspicious, so they surround him in a tough-looking and well-armed circle (cue "Oh crap" expression on good cop's face) and say "If you're so evil, eat this kitten (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten)!"? I love those. *gets popcorn*

That information is sorely out of date, I'm sorry to say. While she did control it for a while, she returned it to me after keeping it warm for a while. You do know she gave away a number of accounts including Farflorin when she became a mod and has just the one. Farflorin had been originally made by me when I had join (the war mentioned in the factbook, which I didn't write, was the starting point) but when I stopped playing for a while (a few years), I let her babysit this little nation of mine.

Don'tcha just hate it when you think you were right but in the end you're so wrong you have no idea how wrong you are? :tongue:

By the way, don't call me a "she", I'm totally male and straight as a one dollar bill baby. :D

http://whining.weaselhut.net/about/

Interesting, then, that you have the same blog as Kryozerkia, and on that blog you claim that you are the "sole write" of the blog, and that your name is Bianca. Funny name for a bloke.

http://whining.weaselhut.net/about/

Interesting, then, that you have the same blog as Kryozerkia, and on that blog you claim that you are the "sole write" of the blog, and that your name is Bianca. Funny name for a bloke.

Good work, Adunabar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9weu3A3zYK

Nobody did that.

Oh, doesn't this totally smack of those movie moments where the good cop has infiltrated the ring of drug dealers and criminals by subterfuge, but things he says by chance make them suspicious, so they surround him in a tough-looking and well-armed circle (cue "Oh crap" expression on good cop's face) and say "If you're so evil, eat this kitten (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten)!"? I love those. *gets popcorn*


http://www.3click.tv/mp4//Seinfeld/season8/metadata/304207.jpg

HK, you're nothing more than a foolishly foolish simpleton who can't even effectively troll. Why don't you just give it up? Oh right, you seem deluded into believe that if you repeatedly post some semi-illiterate attempt at extortion you'll miraculously be restored.

Why even bother to post rulings? The rulings you've posted here were directed at other players, and at that, weren't even official warnings. The rulings have zero bearing on your mere, pathetic existence.

Dear Farflorin aka Kryozerkia aka Bianca,

Well, maybe I can't troll, however you're wasting time here in a hostile way. It seems that I have hurt your toes at least a little.

I never said that you WARNED Drunk guys, I used the word 'semi-warning'. And that's what you actually did.

You want that I halt this thread? I'll do that when you resign NSG as a mod. Deal?

As I said before, get laid, Bianca.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9weu3A3zYK

malformed url...

They did, but for some odd reason I still have my title. No powahs though. I assumed that Jolt officials would eventually pick up the lack of modly figures here, but it seems like it's just being ignored.

My guess is that eventually this forum will be closed down, but given a lot of their forum traffic was due to this site, it might be in their interests to not do so, at least for now.

But 'they' are saying almost for a year that the forum will be closed down. Still, it's open. Which is a nice thing, often I reencounter old friends here.

You are one of the better mods and you have at least the balls to post under your own name. :)

malformed url...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY5OSDxwOEo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY5OSDxwOEo

haha! /even though I'm not a great Seinfeld fan..

That information is sorely out of date, I'm sorry to say. While she did control it for a while, she returned it to me after keeping it warm for a while. You do know she gave away a number of accounts including Farflorin when she became a mod and has just the one. Farflorin had been originally made by me when I had join (the war mentioned in the factbook, which I didn't write, was the starting point) but when I stopped playing for a while (a few years), I let her babysit this little nation of mine.

Don'tcha just hate it when you think you were right but in the end you're so wrong you have no idea how wrong you are? :tongue:

By the way, don't call me a "she", I'm totally male and straight as a one dollar bill baby. :D
Wow. You tell a great story.

http://whining.weaselhut.net/about/

Interesting, then, that you have the same blog as Kryozerkia, and on that blog you claim that you are the "sole write" of the blog, and that your name is Bianca. Funny name for a bloke.
Farflorin is hiding the truth because this thread is mod-bashing

Well I have not seen HK's handiwork so I cannot possibly comment on that but I have noticed that there seems be a preponderance of thin skinned posters...

HK couldn't take a hint. This would be the series of events:

HK would step out of line with a new thread
Mods would ban/tell HK to knock it off and/or lock the thread
HK would restart the same thread or open another one in General questioning the mods decision
Mods would lock that thread
HK would bitch in moderation about the whole thing
Mods would ban HK
HK would come back, and bring it up every opportunity he could

HK couldn't take a hint. This would be the series of events:

HK would step out of line with a new thread
Mods would ban/tell HK to knock it off and/or lock the thread
HK would restart the same thread or open another one in General questioning the mods decision
Mods would lock that thread
HK would bitch in moderation about the whole thing
Mods would ban HK
HK would come back, and bring it up every opportunity he could

Close but not a cigar.

If it was only me, then yeah, ”I” would be the problem. When countless other people have the same experience then there's something else wrong.

Basically, some NSG mods are inconsequent and too intolerant, they protect the friends and punish the ones they don't like for almost nothing.

If people, who are not liked by the mods, complain about something (flaming, stalking, trolling, etc...) then the mods will mostly disagree (but punish YOU earlier or later for a similar event) or they just completely ignore your complaints.

Protesting a ruling was never accepted on NSG and certainly not when the mods crossed their own set of ridiculous rules.

How many of the JOLT regulars are still active on NSG? Not much.

And most of those leavers said the same thing: the silly and too strict ruling behaviour of some mods demolished the fun. Those regulars are gone and are replaced by 12 year (yes, really) old boy and girls. The mods got what they created: if you treat people like toddlers then you certainly end in a kindergarten.

But of course, we are all moaning grumpy old assholes looking for privileges and the mods are always clean and nice.

I would certainly agree that it's a shame so many of the golden oldies have (apparently) left. There's been a loss of the quieter type of poster who engages in lengthy debate.

But, unless I'm missing a thread on UMP where '50 or 60' ex-posters are stating otherwise, I'd attribute the loss more to the poor transition from OMAC to the current forum than to the moderation style.

That said, there has been a certain... pettiness to much of the posting on NSG these days. More rules lawyering, more sniping, etc.

Or maybe I'm constructing a Golden Age in my head...

I would certainly agree that it's a shame so many of the golden oldies have (apparently) left. There's been a loss of the quieter type of poster who engages in lengthy debate.

But, unless I'm missing a thread on UMP where '50 or 60' ex-posters are stating otherwise, I'd attribute the loss more to the poor transition from OMAC to the current forum than to the moderation style.

That said, there has been a certain... pettiness to much of the posting on NSG these days. More rules lawyering, more sniping, etc.

Or maybe I'm constructing a Golden Age in my head...

Yes, we certainly do construct Golden Ages. Not only you, but also me.

However, a significant share of regulars ARE really gone and some mods really changed their style. Some mods are even rather honest about that fact.

I don’t think it’s the fault of the mods alone. There’s a part which is no ones fault. Who should or can you blame for the mass-import of much younger YouTube inspired types?

I know pretty well that moaning about the NSG mods will not change a lot on NSG, but it’s relieving. :)

UMP isn’t everything, at least for me: you have a small inner circle of regulars that’s on an isolating course, they really don’t like new people. While there’s no official moderation, there’s a virtual one. And that’s their good right too.

Therefore, I prefer the current situation on Jolt. This place isn’t owned by anyone.
While there’s moderation, it’s very light. We can call each other asshole, if we feel to, without seeing WARNINGS.

However, more people should return and contribute.

I find the idea that HK claims to have the support of 60 people to be so incredibly precious. Must be his current puppet count.

I find the idea that HK claims to have the support of 60 people to be so incredibly precious. Must be his current puppet count.

60? Source?

No, about 40. And I'm not their spokesman. Never said that too.

I do see other ex-NSG people on other forums (including this one) and with some I still have an e-mail conversation.

These days, it’s uncool to have critique on anything, it’s better to be apathetic about it.

Most of the regulars (but not all) left NSG for the acquaintance reasons.

Are you still posting on NSG? And if not, why?

http://samsonblinded.org/images/head-in-the-sand.gif

But of course, it's a big lie. All Jolt people are still on NSG and all mods are nice, good, hardworking people with their heart on the right place.

KoL, TCT, Sdaeriji, Poli, .... umm ... that's 4. Sitspot. 5. Maybe Jocabia, but he keeps coming back to express his displeasure in Moderation threads. I'll give you 5 1/2.

Maybe Khadgar but he's obviously dissociated himself from you, even though I don't see him on the other forums much. Adunabar, RoI and other DOSed posters don't count.

Did I miss some kind of mass exodus; and if so, who's gone?

(I do know a fair number of posters were formerly more active and are now less active -- Jordaxia, WMU, Treznor, Neo Art, Kanabia, Bluth Corporation, Call to power etc -- but I assume RL got in the way or interest in NS waned or both, so they weren't actually leaving NSG out of dissatisfaction.)

The suiciders by mods do count in my opinion.

How many Jolt people made the jump to NSG?
How many are still active on NSG?

How many left NSG indirectly due the mods? I mean n people disappeared due the actions of the mods. The one that stayed feel the place boring after a while AND leave too.

You should visit NSG now, look what kind of thrash threads they have:

Recommend Me a Cult I would recommend The Cult
How old are you? (sorry Parkus, it sucks :p)
Is feminism still nescessary? *yawn*
Culture in the United States of America LOOK inside the OP: boring
Apple vs.Microsoft for the 137474th time
Is Islam Really That Bad? *yawn again*
What is the nicest national anthem of all times? We had this one 9 times before and it sucks anyway
Favorite Sit-Com Sure What the fuck? I'm not interested in anyone his favourite sit-com, do you?
how tall are you? Give me a break!
Jesus saved my life Yeah, sure, *yawn*

Look bellow at the WHO IS ONLINE section.

Do you recognize many names?

...

I can't really summon much enthusiasm for NSG anymore,

No-one gets satire there. The whole place has been taken over by a bunch of overly-argumentative ignorant morons with no sense of humour who have barely entered their teens and think they know everything when the evidence says otherwise. It's not much fun.

Look bellow at the WHO IS ONLINE section.

Do you recognize many names?

... Allanea, Alsted, .... Angleter, Ashmoria, .... Chrobalta, ... Commerce Heights, ... Czardas, ... Derscon, .... Drachmar, ... Flameswroth, .... Free Soviets, ... Grave_n_idle, ... Imitora, .... JuNii, .... Kjbm-land, .... Kryozerkia, Krytenia, Layarteb, Libertarian Governance, Linux and the X, ... Maraque, ... Milks Empire, .... Nation of Quebec, .... New Nicksyllvania, ... Otagia, Ozymos, ... Playing In The Water, ... Quintessence of Dust, .... Rambhutan, ... Rhursbourg, Rotovia-, Saint Clair Island (<.<), Sarkhaan, ... SD_Film Artists, Sedgistan, ... Sionis Prioratus, .... Swilatia, Taeshan, Techno-Soviet, ... The Fedral Union, The State of Monavia, The Tofu Islands, .... Third Spanish States, ... Turanbirligi, .... UAWC, .... United Dependencies, United Russian State, Urzamalandi, ... Zwangzug

Fair few, yeah. Of course, there are many I don't recognise, presumably from other parts of the forum I don't frequent or just plain newbies. And there are plenty of names I would recognise that aren't on the list, some of whom have left NS and some of whom are merely not online right now.

I agree, the threads are boring. I've posted very little of late, in fact, and when I do I'm usually ignored. Okay, you could be snarky and say I'm ignored because nobody likes me/I have nothing to contribute/my sense of humour is too dry/vulgar/esoteric, but I think that to a degree it's because everyone is Serious Business all the time.

I can't really summon much enthusiasm for NSG anymore,

No-one gets satire there. The whole place has been taken over by a bunch of overly-argumentative ignorant morons with no sense of humour who have barely entered their teens and think they know everything when the evidence says otherwise. It's not much fun.
Yeah, this.

'why is NSG being turned into a kindergarten?'

> Implying NSG was ever good in the first place.

... Allanea, Alsted, .... Angleter, Ashmoria, .... Chrobalta, ... Commerce Heights, ... Czardas, ... Derscon, .... Drachmar, ... Flameswroth, .... Free Soviets, ... Grave_n_idle, ... Imitora, .... JuNii, .... Kjbm-land, .... Kryozerkia, Krytenia, Layarteb, Libertarian Governance, Linux and the X, ... Maraque, ... Milks Empire, .... Nation of Quebec, .... New Nicksyllvania, ... Otagia, Ozymos, ... Playing In The Water, ... Quintessence of Dust, .... Rambhutan, ... Rhursbourg, Rotovia-, Saint Clair Island (<.<), Sarkhaan, ... SD_Film Artists, Sedgistan, ... Sionis Prioratus, .... Swilatia, Taeshan, Techno-Soviet, ... The Fedral Union, The State of Monavia, The Tofu Islands, .... Third Spanish States, ... Turanbirligi, .... UAWC, .... United Dependencies, United Russian State, Urzamalandi, ... Zwangzug

Fair few, yeah. Of course, there are many I don't recognise, presumably from other parts of the forum I don't frequent or just plain newbies. And there are plenty of names I would recognise that aren't on the list, some of whom have left NS and some of whom are merely not online right now.

I agree, the threads are boring. I've posted very little of late, in fact, and when I do I'm usually ignored. Okay, you could be snarky and say I'm ignored because nobody likes me/I have nothing to contribute/my sense of humour is too dry/vulgar/esoteric, but I think that to a degree it's because everyone is Serious Business all the time.


Yeah, this.


omg liek im on dis list lol

Recommend Me a Cult I would recommend The Cult
How old are you? (sorry Parkus, it sucks :p)
Is feminism still nescessary? *yawn*
Culture in the United States of America LOOK inside the OP: boring
Apple vs.Microsoft for the 137474th time
Is Islam Really That Bad? *yawn again*
What is the nicest national anthem of all times? We had this one 9 times before and it sucks anyway
Favorite Sit-Com Sure What the fuck? I'm not interested in anyone his favourite sit-com, do you?
how tall are you? Give me a break!
Jesus saved my life Yeah, sure, *yawn*

...

While agreeing that NSG currently has several young teenagers who could use some spelling and grammar lessons, the above list isn't entirely representative - and in at least one case ('Jesus saved my life') is a spam thread consisting of an opening post with nothing but links that was very quickly locked; it was never intended to be a discussion of its title.

There are still plenty of threads with interesting substantive discussion, and with reasonably intelligent debate occurring. And there's still a reasonable amount of banter. I just filter out the fluff.

As to people leaving, I've been on NS since early 2003 (with another nation), and there are always cycles of established people leaving. I left for over a year between late 2003 and early 2005 for personal reasons that had nothing to do with NS. Nostalgia about discussion not being what it used to be began in the pre-Jolt days.

Swings and roundabouts.

I was unaware there were still people on Jolt.

I was also unaware about 90% of Jolt's activity is Hairless Kitten complaining about NSG and for some reason posting news stories which nobody replies to.

This is quite possibly the saddest thing I have ever seen on the internet. I am simply amazed. I'm not quite sure what to think of this, really.

Last post on Jolt ever.

I was unaware there were still people on Jolt.

I was also unaware about 90% of Jolt's activity is Hairless Kitten complaining about NSG and for some reason posting news stories which nobody replies to.

This is quite possibly the saddest thing I have ever seen on the internet. I am simply amazed. I'm not quite sure what to think of this, really.

Last post on Jolt ever.

Actually I created ONE thread about the NSG moderation.

I created a few stories in the last couple of days, because pissing on the NSG mods becomes boring after a while. Maybe everything is said and done about that subject. :)

The lack of replies is not due the stories. Exactly the same stories are generating adequate replies on NSG. Keep in mind that about 5 to 10 people are more or less alive on this forum, so the pace is slow.

However, I wouldn't mind if more people would return. So why don't you stay? :)

DI, few years ago, on Jolt the people would have asked Brogavia questions about it:

• How will you manage the painful death of all lefties?
• How will you detect those lefties?
• How would you torture and eliminate them in a descent pace?
• Who will pay the bill of this elimination?
• Should the government work out the elimination or should they outsource the job to a private company? And to which companies?

It would be fun.

Today, such boy is banned for 7 days.

To be fair, Binaria / Brogavia has a long history with the mods - I know this because Scolo got miffed at me for arguing in Brogavia's defense.

But you're right about one thing; mods are trigger-happy.

Or, at least, they appear to be trigger-happy. To us.

But we're oldfags, we know how it used to be Back In The Day. To be honest, I'm not really convinced anymore that too much has actually changed other than moderator activity. Old mods that used to be douchebags and some cool ones just aren't active anymore, so they've been replaced by a new crowd who alternate between oversensitivity and coolness.

And believe me, I'm not one to go out of my way to defend the mods, but still...

I think the thing I lol about the most is that, if people really didn't care about this, they just would continue to ignore it. Instead, they failtroll.

Personally, I don't mind the deserted feeling Jolt has.

I think the thing I lol about the most is that, if people really didn't care about this, they just would continue to ignore it. Instead, they failtroll.

Personally, I don't mind the deserted feeling Jolt has.

I wouldn't mind if more people would return, but if they don't then it's fine for me too.

It feels like a kind of post apocalyptic event and it is having some particular charm.

KoL, TCT, Sdaeriji, Poli, .... umm ... that's 4. Sitspot. 5. Maybe Jocabia, but he keeps coming back to express his displeasure in Moderation threads. I'll give you 5 1/2.

Maybe Khadgar but he's obviously dissociated himself from you, even though I don't see him on the other forums much. Adunabar, RoI and other DOSed posters don't count.

Did I miss some kind of mass exodus; and if so, who's gone?

(I do know a fair number of posters were formerly more active and are now less active -- Jordaxia, WMU, Treznor, Neo Art, Kanabia, Bluth Corporation, Call to power etc -- but I assume RL got in the way or interest in NS waned or both, so they weren't actually leaving NSG out of dissatisfaction.)

I was directed to this thread by another. I didn't even realize that Jolt still had any activity.

I don't want my name even mentioned as potentially supportive of HK's childish trolling crusade simply because I left around the same time that HK abandoned any pretense of maturity. In fact, I left for the exact opposite reason: I felt the moderators were being far too lenient. I was tired of trolls like HK getting warning after warning after warning after warning with seemingly no lasting repercussions for repeated rulebreaking. In my ideal NSG, a useless troll like HK would have been gone 15 minutes after forming his first nation, as would similar trolls such as Parthenon and New Mittani. The sheer lack of consequences for rulebreaking finally sickened me to the point where I decided I had had my fill of a forum where the most common debating tactic was blatant vitrolic trolling. That's why I left.

I don't want HK or anyone else using my name as one of the "old-timers" or "regulars" who left because of their own personal vendettas against the moderators, because in all likelihood they have no idea why I left in the first place. I don't want to be a poker chip.

I was directed to this thread by another. I didn't even realize that Jolt still had any activity.

I don't want my name even mentioned as potentially supportive of HK's childish trolling crusade simply because I left around the same time that HK abandoned any pretense of maturity. In fact, I left for the exact opposite reason: I felt the moderators were being far too lenient. I was tired of trolls like HK getting warning after warning after warning after warning with seemingly no lasting repercussions for repeated rulebreaking. In my ideal NSG, a useless troll like HK would have been gone 15 minutes after forming his first nation, as would similar trolls such as Parthenon and New Mittani. The sheer lack of consequences for rulebreaking finally sickened me to the point where I decided I had had my fill of a forum where the most common debating tactic was blatant vitrolic trolling. That's why I left.

I don't want HK or anyone else using my name as one of the "old-timers" or "regulars" who left because of their own personal vendettas against the moderators, because in all likelihood they have no idea why I left in the first place. I don't want to be a poker chip.

Poor sod,

I’m sure there’s a ‘Victims from Hairless Kitten’ mental recovery shop near you.

Stay with the facts.

Warning after warning?

Five. Most of them for disagreeing the mods ruling and not for trolling and stuff.

Trolling, you said?

Moi? Mais non. At least not with my HK account, but I’m doing some trolling after YOU and me left NSG.

Anyway, on this forum you are allowed to air bollocks.
No one, will WARN you, which is bad news for you, since you maybe have an OCD with the rules.

The rules man!

Poor sod,

I’m sure there’s a ‘Victims from Hairless Kitten’ mental recovery shop near you.

Stay with the facts.

Warning after warning?

Five. Most of them for disagreeing the mods ruling and not for trolling and stuff.

Trolling, you said?

Moi? Mais non. At least not with my HK account, but I’m doing some trolling after YOU and me left NSG.

Anyway, on this forum you are allowed to air bollocks.
No one, will WARN you, which is bad news for you, since you maybe have an OCD with the rules.

The rules man!


You're right. I said

"warning after warning after warning after warning"

when it should have been

"warning after warning after warning after warning after warning"

to properly accomodate your fifth chance. In a good and just world, you wouldn't have been given five chances to act like a complete cock. You'd have been gone after three, at most. Yet, for some reason, the moderators feel compelled to coddle ass burgers like yourself who are incapable of engaging in acceptable social behavior. I just don't want my name associated with you and your blinding idiocy just because my departure coincided with the moderators finally punishing you for your temper tantrums.

You're right. I said

"warning after warning after warning after warning"

when it should have been

"warning after warning after warning after warning after warning"

to properly accomodate your fifth chance. In a good and just world, you wouldn't have been given five chances to act like a complete cock. You'd have been gone after three, at most. Yet, for some reason, the moderators feel compelled to coddle ass burgers like yourself who are incapable of engaging in acceptable social behavior. I just don't want my name associated with you and your blinding idiocy just because my departure coincided with the moderators finally punishing you for your temper tantrums.

Oh yeah, three strikes and you're out. I know your kind.

It's not a coincidence that you started 13 threads, only 11 from those 13 in the Moderation Section on NSG. :)

The moderators didn't finally punish me. I left mid November 2009 on my own.

Also, I never said that ALL people left NSG due the bad moderation. Many are just bored and are looking for other interests. Some have, finally, a girl, a dog, a job or whatever.

Can you produce an opinion without the bollocks? That would be interesting.

Sdaeriji,

What I don't understand about people like you...

...why didn't you use the ignore facilities on the forum?

You do realise you're regarded as pretty god-damned pathetic, right?

Hell, you've successfully made any debate about poor moderator decisions entirely about yourself, virtually invalidating any argument anyone has against them, because they'll get tarred with the same brush as you.

You do realise you're regarded as pretty god-damned pathetic, right?

Hell, you've successfully made any debate about poor moderator decisions entirely about yourself, virtually invalidating any argument anyone has against them, because they'll get tarred with the same brush as you.

Do you think I care about what internet-people think about me?

Get real.

I care about what my close family, friends and till a lesser degree my colleagues are thinking about me. The opinion about my little personality from some dipshit, 8000 miles away from my street, is…pretty irrelevant. And I’m polite now.

I started this thread about the NSG mods. I can’t help it that some people that disagree don’t use any rational valid arguments and instead start attacking the god-damned pathetic HK on a personal base.

People don’t have to agree with my opinion and some use rational arguments. I respect that.

However, I admit, I do like it, making dog food from the ones that are oh so sensitive irrational about any issue.

Source:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=1349090#p1349090

Here's another example. I don't know Brogavia, but I'm sure that he really doesn't wish a painful death for the entire left wing. He's exaggerating and thus making a small joke.

But Euroslavia has a carrot in his ass and can't stand a joke about the left wing. SEVEN DAYS BAN for making a joke. Well, that's a joke.

Boys and girls: don't make jokes about the left. And avoid jokes about fat Americans too. Most mods are Americans and some do have a fat ass.
And don't even think about it to make jokes about left fat Americans! What a big relief for Michael 'Fat Ass' Moore!

Admittedly the one time I got warned was for saying fat people are disgusting. That and saying that I was glad the Swedish fag who always talked about licking people's assholes was gone, but then he wasn't.. haha.

I don't want my name even mentioned as potentially supportive of HK's childish trolling crusade simply because I left around the same time that HK abandoned any pretense of maturity. In fact, I left for the exact opposite reason: I felt the moderators were being far too lenient.

Fair enough. That's something that's irritated me as well -- people who should have been gone from the site years ago are kept around solely because the mods feel NSG needs "political diversity". Which is stupid, since it's entirely possible to have political diversity without tolerating trolls. Hell, if people like Parthenon and KiloMikeAlpha and the like were kicked out altogether, we might even see a resurgence of conservative political views from all the people who had previously kept quiet for fear of being tarred with the same brush as obvious trolls.

Anyway, I'll strike you from the list. Thinking about it, I suppose we can likewise strike Sitspot, TCT, and KoL, who left for the same reasons (mods being too lenient -- always on the same people, too -- instead of too strict). That leaves.... two and a half. One of whom is HK.


Also, I never said that ALL people left NSG due the bad moderation.

You did. In fact, you said that something like 40 people left NSG due to bad moderation, and would come back if the three worst mods were removed or whatever silly demands you were trying to make.

It looks a lot like, if 40 people did indeed leave NSG, most of them did so for other, unrelated reasons. A small number (4 or 5, as mentioned above) left because they didn't think moderation was strict enough. The only one who appears to have left because it was too strict is... you.

Not all that surprising, honestly.

...

The only one who appears to have left because it was too strict is... you.

Not all that surprising, honestly.

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I'm thinking more about some of our old timers who have gotten fed up with this place...and those who are getting to that point.


http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=970801#p970801


...fuck you.

No seriously, fuck you. Im sick to death of this place. The pseudo-intellectualism, the snarky, snobbish comments that would get you punched in the teeth in real life. The Mod favoritism


http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=25416


So I guess I'll be the unpopular one who will say the thing that everyone's thinking, you're fishing for, but no one's saying. I'm done with this place because of the absolute farce that the Moderation Team has become. Once it became apparent with how much utter contempt the powers that be view us forumgoers, and once it became apparent that the Moderation Team was more concerned with enforcing agendas than enforcing rules, I felt there was very little reason to continue to frequent this place.


http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=971145#p971145

Where have all the old posters gone?
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=29811&start=0&sid=3dcbc2f2aaf1a6096610a1d9f5b9f7d8

*sigh*

That sort of dismissive attitude towards genuine questions about inconsistent decisions and inappropriate moderator behaviour was precisely the sort of thing that led to people leaving.

If you want a royal analogy, perhaps a more appropriate one would be an absolute monarch pissing off the balcony on respected members of the community, claiming to be listening while having their fingers in their ears and playing "Shut up" by the Black Eyed Peas at ear-bleeding volume from giant speakers twenty-feet high all around.

I liked a lot of those posters. I think the very least they deserve after all they gave to the community is to not have their reasons for leaving so grossly and unfairly misrepresented.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=1183611#p1183611

This.

Particularly by someone who was at the very least tangentially tied to the decisions made.

Really, we still aren't children, and respect is still earned. I've been saying that in threads for months. It seems that one or two mods have taken that to heart. Shame others haven't.


but no, clearly it was them being petulant children, storming off after not getting their way.

I wouldn't be shocked to see more of us going, if this is any indication.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=1183635#p1183635

Poliwanacraca & Neo Art left due to some kind of drama. There are rumours NA still checks in every now and then, as yet unconfirmed. The Cat-Tribe left due to some kind of dissatisfaction with the site. I'm not sure what exactly. He might be back. Trostia left because NS got boring (I recall seeing his final post on the Eastern Europe RMB, along the lines of "Well, that was fun. Time to move on."). Won't be back. Anti-Social Darwinism is still here. Neesika I'm not sure about; I think she received some kind of ban for trolling with a puppet, and probably just didn't come back to post after it (Khadgar's another example of a poster who didn't return after receiving a ban). Sdaeriji left for some reason or other. Jocabia is still here, but less active. Grave_n_Idle quit publicly but may still be posting under puppets. Yootopia is still here, but I'm pretty sure he's currently serving out a forumban (administered by me, iirc) and will probably be back when it's over. IL Ruffino is still here in a metaphysical sense. He checks in occasionally and trolls the forums for his amusement, then leaves again. I don't blame him. Soheran is still here, just somewhat less active. Chumblywumbly seems to have gotten bored, like Trostia above. KoL/Trve/etc suicided by mod. Sitspot couldn't work up the necessary amount of vitriol to suicide by mod and just left. Hairless Kitten also left. A few more people probably left as well, I'm not really keeping track.

For all the people who quit out of dissatisfaction with the moderation here, I'm a bit confused as to what they thought they were accomplishing. Well, all right, I'm a little confused in the first place since all of the complaints were about moderators and moderator tactics that had been here for a very long time, and can't really figure out what sparked them, but that's beside the point. The statements of some posters herein have suggested that the leaving was actually a planned mass exodus of some kind intended to shame or force the moderators into doing ... something. Which doesn't make much sense, since posters are always leaving, yet NSG has somehow survived. Besides, in the cases of some posters threatening to leave -- generally, the chronic rulebreakers -- we have no real objection to not having to deal with them anymore.

I'm thus inclined to dismiss the "mass exodus" hypothesis and instead suggest they left because NSG was becoming less fun. Which is true. Since the move from Jolt (possibly earlier) NSG has become less fun, more hostile (to new players and among older players), and has lost a lot of its "NSG spirit". Unless that's just the nostalgia speaking.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=1183659#p1183659

Do you think I care about what internet-people think about me?

Get real.

I care about what my close family, friends and till a lesser degree my colleagues are thinking about me. The opinion about my little personality from some dipshit, 8000 miles away from my street, is…pretty irrelevant. And I’m polite now.

I started this thread about the NSG mods. I can’t help it that some people that disagree don’t use any rational valid arguments and instead start attacking the god-damned pathetic HK on a personal base.

People don’t have to agree with my opinion and some use rational arguments. I respect that.

However, I admit, I do like it, making dog food from the ones that are oh so sensitive irrational about any issue.
You obviously do care what people on the internet think, as otherwise I wouldn't be replying to any thread right now, would I?

Be as polite, or impolite, as much as you want. It would hardly change my (already rather low) opinion of yourself, which you're constantly bringing lower with these tactics. Which I have, admittedly, validated by replying to. So the joke is on me.

The reason why I've labelled you as such is because of the tactics you've been using, such as the weak claim that there had been "40 active members leaving", which has been systematically destroyed. I agree that there are problems with how NSG is currently moderated (we probably agree on the particular mods), as well as other issues with that particular forum, but I'd rather not be associated with you in any way, shape, or form.

Especially after all the spammer attacks that you indulged in, in a vain attempt to terrorise NSG into getting rid of those mods. Which was probably one of the more self-sabotaging things I've seen for a while.

Closing this as it is going nowhere good.