Galloism
27-05-2009, 19:44
Nope, this isn't from Florida. It's from New York.
http://www.justnews.com/travelgetaways/19564112/detail.html
'Bird Magnet' Ruffles NYC Airport Feathers
Many Fear Garbage Transfer Site Will Attract Birds
WASHINGTON -- About 700 yards from the end of a LaGuardia Airport runway, where thousands of planes take off and land, New York officials want to build what could be the equivalent of a bird magnet: a very large garbage transfer station.
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"That's just insane," said Jeff Skiles, co-pilot of USAirways Flight 1549, which ditched in the water Jan. 15. "We have a lot of difficulty keeping birds away from airports as it is."
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But pilots, bird experts and members of Congress are not convinced that the department's plan is as bird-proof as its proponents say it is. The Air Line Pilots Association International is asking the FAA and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which operates LaGuardia, for a wildlife risk analysis of the project.
Rep. Gary Ackerman, D-N.Y., whose constituents are unhappy with the project, said the plan defies common sense.
"Stand in any street and watch the garbage truck go by. Guess who is flying above them? They leak liquid, they have trash hanging off the sides -- anybody knows that," Ackerman said. "The whole thing is mystifying. Of all the places to put it, why direct deadline center at the end of a runway?"
Rory Kay, the pilot association's executive safety chairman and a pilot who flies Boeing 757s and 767s out of LaGuardia, said air traffic controllers have a nearly continuous warning to pilots about birds in the vicinity of LaGuardia. But, he said, when a plane is traveling at 3.5 miles a minute (or 210 mph) "there's not much you can do about it at that stage of the game" short of aborting a takeoff or landing.
"It's kind of a leap of faith to conclude there are no bird issues here," Kay said.
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LaGuardia is the nation's 19th busiest airport, with 378,521 takeoffs and landings in 2008. The transfer station is planned for property on the shore of the Flushing Bay, which the airport borders on the east. Czwartacky said a smaller transfer station operated on the same site for decades until it closed in 2001, and the department was unaware of a problem with birds being attracted to it.
Richard Dolbeer, an expert on bird-plane collisions, said it might be safe to put garbage transfer stations of the type proposed by New York near some airports where scavenging birds aren't common. But he said LaGuardia is exactly the kind of airport and location least compatible with a trash facility.
"It certainly raises a red flag," Dolbeer said. "I don't think enough research has been done to really determine if these fully enclosed facilities do not attract wildlife. ... LaGuardia has enough problems (with birds) as it is just being located on the water."
The species of greatest concern are sea gulls, said Dolbeer, a wildlife biologist. Four types of gulls are native to Flushing Bay, he said, and all are attracted to trash.
Well, you all get the idea. A garbage transfer facility at the end of the runway. What could go wrong?
http://www.justnews.com/travelgetaways/19564112/detail.html
'Bird Magnet' Ruffles NYC Airport Feathers
Many Fear Garbage Transfer Site Will Attract Birds
WASHINGTON -- About 700 yards from the end of a LaGuardia Airport runway, where thousands of planes take off and land, New York officials want to build what could be the equivalent of a bird magnet: a very large garbage transfer station.
...
"That's just insane," said Jeff Skiles, co-pilot of USAirways Flight 1549, which ditched in the water Jan. 15. "We have a lot of difficulty keeping birds away from airports as it is."
...
But pilots, bird experts and members of Congress are not convinced that the department's plan is as bird-proof as its proponents say it is. The Air Line Pilots Association International is asking the FAA and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which operates LaGuardia, for a wildlife risk analysis of the project.
Rep. Gary Ackerman, D-N.Y., whose constituents are unhappy with the project, said the plan defies common sense.
"Stand in any street and watch the garbage truck go by. Guess who is flying above them? They leak liquid, they have trash hanging off the sides -- anybody knows that," Ackerman said. "The whole thing is mystifying. Of all the places to put it, why direct deadline center at the end of a runway?"
Rory Kay, the pilot association's executive safety chairman and a pilot who flies Boeing 757s and 767s out of LaGuardia, said air traffic controllers have a nearly continuous warning to pilots about birds in the vicinity of LaGuardia. But, he said, when a plane is traveling at 3.5 miles a minute (or 210 mph) "there's not much you can do about it at that stage of the game" short of aborting a takeoff or landing.
"It's kind of a leap of faith to conclude there are no bird issues here," Kay said.
...
LaGuardia is the nation's 19th busiest airport, with 378,521 takeoffs and landings in 2008. The transfer station is planned for property on the shore of the Flushing Bay, which the airport borders on the east. Czwartacky said a smaller transfer station operated on the same site for decades until it closed in 2001, and the department was unaware of a problem with birds being attracted to it.
Richard Dolbeer, an expert on bird-plane collisions, said it might be safe to put garbage transfer stations of the type proposed by New York near some airports where scavenging birds aren't common. But he said LaGuardia is exactly the kind of airport and location least compatible with a trash facility.
"It certainly raises a red flag," Dolbeer said. "I don't think enough research has been done to really determine if these fully enclosed facilities do not attract wildlife. ... LaGuardia has enough problems (with birds) as it is just being located on the water."
The species of greatest concern are sea gulls, said Dolbeer, a wildlife biologist. Four types of gulls are native to Flushing Bay, he said, and all are attracted to trash.
Well, you all get the idea. A garbage transfer facility at the end of the runway. What could go wrong?