NationStates Jolt Archive

Which sounds about right. The ENSO is near neutral which traditionaly means average. Although the average has seen a slight increase recently.

NOAA encourages preparedness.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090521_atlantichurricane.html

Forecasters say there is a 70 percent chance of having nine to 14 named storms, of which four to seven could become hurricanes, including one to three major hurricanes (Category 3, 4 or 5).


I'll tell you who needs to prepare better. State governors. The very second a hurricane does damage to an off shore oil rig, some of them need to declare a state of emergency to at least TRY to curb or stop price gouging. It does a LOT of damage to businesses when customers don't patronize their establishment due to them not knowing when and where their next tank of gas is coming from. (there were a lot of gas lines in the southern US last year because of hurricane Ike)

Which sounds about right. The ENSO is near neutral which traditionaly means average. Although the average has seen a slight increase recently.

NOAA encourages preparedness.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090521_atlantichurricane.html



I'll tell you who needs to prepare better. State governors. The very second a hurricane does damage to an off shore oil rig, some of them need to declare a state of emergency to at least TRY to curb or stop price gouging. It does a LOT of damage to businesses when customers don't patronize their establishment due to them not knowing when and where their next tank of gas is coming from. (there were a lot of gas lines in the southern US last year because of hurricane Ike)

Price controls create scarcity.
It is not really gouging when the gas station's cost go up too.

Price controls create scarcity.
It is not really gouging when the gas station's cost go up too.

Last year, many southern governors called it "gouging" and declared a state of emergency, even though the state was not hit by the storm. (in a state of emergency, prices can only be jacked up by 25% max) The only problem last year, the declaration was made too late, prices shot up too high and panic took over creating a hell of a mess.

Last year, many southern governors called it "gouging" and declared a state of emergency, even though the state was not hit by the storm. (in a state of emergency, prices can only be jacked up by 25% max) The only problem last year, the declaration was made too late, prices shot up too high and panic took over creating a hell of a mess.

But if you place price controls most of the oil goes tot hose who are willing to pay more. Either other states, or if the entire country did it, then to other countries like China. The end result of which is you have gas stations with no gas.
It also wasn't the oil rigs fault so much as the storm decimated the coastal power grid of Texas, and that's where a lot of the refineries happen to be.

There's like a bajillion gallons of crude sitting in bulk carriers and storage all over the world right now. (A consequence of last years 'experiment' with commodities).

Unless the entire gulf is wiped out for months it won't mean much in practical terms.

There's like a bajillion gallons of crude sitting in bulk carriers and storage all over the world right now. (A consequence of last years 'experiment' with commodities).

Unless the entire gulf is wiped out for months it won't mean much in practical terms.

which hit first the oil bubble or the real estate bubble?

which hit first the oil bubble or the real estate bubble?

Real estate. The oil bubble was caused by the government's ham fisted interventions to fix real estate.

Ah well, good then. I'll be in the Caribbean and in Florida for this year's hurricane season. I haven't seen one of the little buggers since 1998 and, trust me, I don't feel like getting to see another one any time soon.

Ah well, good then. I'll be in the Caribbean and in Florida for this year's hurricane season. I haven't seen one of the little buggers since 1998 and, trust me, I don't feel like getting to see another one any time soon.

they are fun. you get drunk. you wake up with a hang over the next day and ahve to shoot at looters.

they are fun. you get drunk. you wake up with a hang over the next day and ahve to shoot at looters.

Greedy, during hurricane Georges, back in 1998, I wanted to get drunk. The ruckus the wind and the water cause, oh, and the way the concrete walls would tremble, prevented me from doing this. What's more, I don't know how I slept through the last leg of the hurricane. The next morning, there was a huge palm tree obstructing our exit of grandma's house. The neighbors had to cut it. Not to mention that the little forest in front of the house was, literally, non existent.

And the best part, one is left without power and water for the better part of a month. Cable took until Christmas to come back. :(

Greedy, during hurricane Georges, back in 1998, I wanted to get drunk. The ruckus the wind and the water cause, oh, and the way the concrete walls would tremble, prevented me from doing this. What's more, I don't know how I slept through the last leg of the hurricane. The next morning, there was a huge palm tree obstructing our exit of grandma's house. The neighbors had to cut it. Not to mention that the little forest in front of the house was, literally, non existent.

And the best part, one is left without power and water for the better part of a month. Cable took until Christmas to come back. :(

I was in PR for that hurricane too!!!

I was in PR for that hurricane too!!!

You were? Dude, that thing was a monster, right?:eek:

It entered through the east and exited the Island from the west. It cut it in half! My grandmother said they hadn't seen one like that since the 20s. Of course, she wasn't there, but some of her neighbors told her that it was pretty bad. The names of those storms were San Ciriaco and San Felipe, I think.

You were? Dude, that thing was a monster, right?:eek:

It entered through the east and exited the Island from the west. It cut it in half! My grandmother said they hadn't seen one like that since the 20s. Of course, she wasn't there, but some of her neighbors told her that it was pretty bad. The names of those storms were San Ciriaco and San Felipe, I think.

Yep. I was a volunteer with the red cross. I volunteered to go there early to prep the landing sites for helicopters and stuff after the storm cleared.
My mom almost killed me for that, being on the island during the hurricane.

Yep. I was a volunteer with the red cross. I volunteered to go there early to prep the landing sites for helicopters and stuff after the storm cleared.
My mom almost killed me for that, being on the island during the hurricane.

I was on leisure time from uni. Bad timing for me, I know.

I was on leisure time from uni. Bad timing for me, I know.

I got to use a chain saw.

I got to use a chain saw.

To cut trees? Where were you exactly in the Island when the hurricane hit? I was in the north.

To cut trees? Where were you exactly in the Island when the hurricane hit? I was in the north.

Luis Muñoz Marín International Airport is where I slept.
Otherwise wherever the crew drove me during the day to clear roads.
I didn't exactly get a lay of the land while I was there.

Luis Muñoz Marín International Airport is where I slept.
Otherwise wherever the crew drove me during the day to clear roads.
I didn't exactly get a lay of the land while I was there.

North side too, in the town of Carolina.

You had to sleep at the airport? How cruel.

North side too, in the town of Carolina.

You had to sleep at the airport? How cruel.

are you kidding ?
open bar, and it always had power and heating.

And for a 17 year old that was freaking bad ass.

are you kidding ?
open bar, and it always had power and heating.

And for a 17 year old that was freaking bad ass.

I see. Your drinking habits were honed in Puerto Rico, during hurricane season, where Bacardi is abundant and cheap and people binge-drink. Trust me, the temptations are many. :tongue:

Was the airport hotel prepared for you, guys? That hurricane hit pretty bad. I remember watching the landscape and seeing many houses completely destroyed. Many people spent up to a year and a half in shelters throughout the Island.

I see. Your drinking habits were honed in Puerto Rico, during hurricane season, where Bacardi is abundant and cheap and people binge-drink. Trust me, the temptations are many. :tongue:

Was the airport hotel prepared for you, guys? That hurricane hit pretty bad. I remember watching the landscape and seeing many houses completely destroyed. Many people spent up to a year and a half in shelters throughout the Island.

For the volunteers who came early yes.
We got hotel rooms.
For those who came after the hurricane they got a cots in the terminal.

For the volunteers who came early yes.
We got hotel rooms.
For those who came after the hurricane they got a cots in the terminal.

How long did you stay in PR after the hurricane passed?

How long did you stay in PR after the hurricane passed?

just 2 weeks.
I got one trip to the beach at the end. Otherwise nothing touristy at all.

just 2 weeks.
I got one trip to the beach at the end. Otherwise nothing touristy at all.

I see. You didn't stay that long. The Island didn't really recuperate until the end of the next year, and 5 years after, they still had some problems with the terrain and with infrastructure.

I see. You didn't stay that long. The Island didn't really recuperate until the end of the next year, and 5 years after, they still had some problems with the terrain and with infrastructure.

Well i couldn't stay longer was reaching the limit for school I could skip and still graduate.