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Inspired by A-SD's "Stupidity...the ongoing trend" thread, This has to be the stupidest people on Earth:

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=7613395&page=1

Child Witches: Accused in the Name of Jesus

Christian Pastors in Congo Paid to Perform Violent Exorcisms; Children Banished From Homes, Abandoned by Families

Are you willing to adopt all these evil demon kids?

With the hissing and the biting and the satan and the oy-glaven...

Are you willing to adopt all these evil demon kids?

With the hissing and the biting and the satan and the oy-glaven...

I would like to put that one mother - that melted a plasic bag around her little son's entire arm to try to get him to confess that he's a witch - in a bag with hissing and biting snakes to get her to confess she's a moron.

I say we burn the priests at the stake. For heresy.

If i could adopt every single one of them I would.
I am sick to my stomach from watching the video.

I say we burn the priests at the stake. For heresy.

And let's not stop in Africa.

Meh. That's right. Meh. The sum total of my feelings on the matter. Mass abuse, torture and murder by the ignorant masses at the behest of their priests/kings/ideology/etc isn't new. If not in Congo, it'll be in Zimbabwe. Or maybe it'll be in China. Hell, it could be your neighbor, or maybe you yourself. It happens anywhere you can think of. In small doses or on the factory scale. Unjust? Horrific? Sure. But the world isn't just or fair, and no amount of hand wringing by anyone is going to change that. Might as well be a universal constant.

Most of you will get up in arms over this today, maybe hold onto it for a week, donate a couple of bucks to some group who purports to help put an end to this mess (though they could just be greedy schmucks out to sucker you). Then some new outrage will pop up and you'll forget all about it.

And why not? Suckers who never use their brains are a dime a million, and so are the sickos and frauds who'd be more than happy to take their money and their hope and turn it into whatever sick scheme they've got festering in the back of their heads. Sure as the sun rises tomorrow, there'll be some new outrage to get up in arms over. You can bet your last dollar on it.

If everyone who deserved to be dead dropped dead right now, there'd be only a fraction of people left alive in the world. Too bad that won't happen anytime soon. Not even a fraction of a fraction of those who deserve to die will ever meet their untimely ends.

Christianity forced on backwater pagan societies always turns into this kind of stuff. No one cares about witches expelled in the name of the animal spirits, but when Christianity gets adapted to it, it's big newsworthy stuff.

That's because Chistians are supposed to be above that. I agree it's bad no matter who does it, though, and i'd give everything to stop it, but it happens everywhere, Africa, America, Europe, Asia...everywhere where there are people who are afriad of the unseen, of invisible powers, and people who will exploits those people's fears for their personal gain, whether it's witch kids, demonic possessions, faith healings, or whatever.

This has to be the stupidest people on Earth:


I mean, really?

I mean, really?

Yeah we all know the Welsh are eerr stupider?:D

Yeah we all know the Welsh are eerr stupider?:D

Norfolk is engaging in a program of comprehensive inbreeding to catch them up though :tongue:

Belief in one superstition makes it easier to believe in other superstitions.

Those boys turned me into a newt!

......I got better

......I got better

Did you, really?

<_<

i watched a tiny bit of that on tv yesterday.

the reporter went to the police to talk about what is being done to these children....the chief of police told him that when a kid has dark eyes and a round belly he is usually a witch.

Belief in one superstition makes it easier to believe in other superstitions.

Well I don't see how that follows?

Children don't need witchcraft to be terrors. :p

surely a male witch is a warlock?

bunch of spear chuckers etc etc

Well I don't see how that follows?

If you put aside all logic and evidence to believe in some big invisible chap living in the sky, it becomes much easier to ignore all the evidence and logic that says witchcraft is nonsense.

But there is so simple a method of witch detection...

I guess they don't have ducks over there.

But there is so simple a method of witch detection...

I guess they don't have ducks over there.

CROWD: A witch! A witch! A witch! We've got a witch! A witch!
VILLAGER #1: We have found a witch, might we burn her?
CROWD: Burn her! Burn!
BEDEMIR: How do you know she is a witch?
VILLAGER #2: She looks like one.
BEDEMIR: Bring her forward.
WITCH: I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEMIR: But you are dressed as one.
WITCH: They dressed me up like this.
CROWD: No, we didn't... no.
WITCH: And this isn't my nose, it's a false one.
BEDEMIR: Well?
VILLAGER #1: Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEMIR: The nose?
VILLAGER #1: And the hat -- but she is a witch!
CROWD: Burn her! Witch! Witch! Burn her!
BEDEMIR: Did you dress her up like this?
CROWD: No, no... no ... yes. Yes, yes, a bit, a bit.
VILLAGER #1: She has got a wart.
BEDEMIR: What makes you think she is a witch?
VILLAGER #3: Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEMIR: A newt?
VILLAGER #3: I got better.
VILLAGER #2: Burn her anyway!
CROWD: Burn! Burn her!
BEDEMIR: Quiet, quiet. Quiet! There are ways of telling whether
she is a witch.
CROWD: Are there? What are they?
BEDEMIR: Tell me, what do you do with witches?
VILLAGER #2: Burn!
CROWD: Burn, burn them up!
BEDEMIR: And what do you burn apart from witches?
VILLAGER #1: More witches!
VILLAGER #2: Wood!
BEDEMIR: So, why do witches burn?
[pause]
VILLAGER #3: B--... 'cause they're made of wood...?
BEDEMIR: Good!
CROWD: Oh yeah, yeah...
BEDEMIR: So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?
VILLAGER #1: Build a bridge out of her.
BEDEMIR: Aah, but can you not also build bridges out of stone?
VILLAGER #2: Oh, yeah.
BEDEMIR: Does wood sink in water?
VILLAGER #1: No, no.
VILLAGER #2: It floats! It floats!
VILLAGER #1: Throw her into the pond!
CROWD: The pond!
BEDEMIR: What also floats in water?
VILLAGER #1: Bread!
VILLAGER #2: Apples!
VILLAGER #3: Very small rocks!
VILLAGER #1: Cider!
VILLAGER #2: Great gravy!
VILLAGER #1: Cherries!
VILLAGER #2: Mud!
VILLAGER #3: Churches -- churches!
VILLAGER #2: Lead -- lead!
ARTHUR: A duck.
CROWD: Oooh.
BEDEMIR: Exactly! So, logically...,
VILLAGER #1: If... she.. weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood.
BEDEMIR: And therefore--?
VILLAGER #1: A witch!
CROWD: A witch!
BEDEMIR: We shall use my larger scales!
[yelling]
BEDEMIR: Right, remove the supports!
[whop]
[creak]
CROWD: A witch! A witch!
WITCH: It's a fair cop.
CROWD: Burn her! Burn! [yelling]

Emos look like witches in that case.

If you put aside all logic and evidence to believe in some big invisible chap living in the sky, it becomes much easier to ignore all the evidence and logic that says witchcraft is nonsense.

I wouldn't say that witchcraft is nonsense.

However, it's clear that the priest are running a money making scam and are controlling the community they live in.

I wouldn't say that witchcraft is nonsense.

However, it's clear that the priest are running a money making scam and are controlling the community they live in.

Yea the money seems to be the main culprit. I mean, a child there is declared a witch if they have big eyes. WTF??

But things like this happen when a religion is based on actual people. (like Jesus or Mohamad)

Yea the money seems to be the main culprit. I mean, a child there is declared a witch if they have big eyes. WTF??

But things like this happen when a religion is based on actual people. (like Jesus or Mohamad)

I always believed this is what happened when religion goes around saying that they're the right one and everyone else is wrong.

You don't see Jews or Buddhist doing this.

I wouldn't say that witchcraft is nonsense.


I would, magic doesn't exist

Yea the money seems to be the main culprit. I mean, a child there is declared a witch if they have big eyes. WTF??

It's so retro. We're going back to the Middle Ages, y'all, when a beauty mark could garner you the title of witch and the Inquisition ended burning you at the stake.

I always believed this is what happened when religion goes around saying that they're the right one and everyone else is wrong.

You don't see Jews or Buddhist doing this.

Yes you certainly cant discard George Carlin's theory. "My God has a bigger dick than your God" is pretty much what a lot of wars and shenanigans are based on.

Emos look like witches in that case.

Ive been burning Emos for years.

Ive been burning Emos for years.Are they made of wood? :p

Are they made of wood? :p

they weigh as much as a duck.

The sad part is no matter how many Emos I burn at the stake they keep coming back.

I wouldn't say that witchcraft is nonsense.

so thats where all that blood I donate goes :eek2:

But things like this happen when a religion is based on actual people. (like Jesus or Mohamad)

please tell me what Jesus has to do with it? from what I hear he was a total pussy who would get his arse kicked by children not the other way round

as for Mohamed...stop discriminating Muslims

You don't see Jews or Buddhist doing this.

yeah...you do O_o

*stones woman to death in Jewish neighborhood for committing infidelity*

The sad part is no matter how many Emos I burn at the stake they keep coming back.

maybe you should stop burning mirrors ;)

I read the title and thought this would be about xtian fundies protesting Wiccans raising their kids as (shock) Wiccans. Sadly it is about xtians interfering in African cultures and abusing their children (shock ).

Christianity forced on backwater pagan societies always turns into this kind of stuff. No one cares about witches expelled in the name of the animal spirits, but when Christianity gets adapted to it, it's big newsworthy stuff.

True, but then Christians don't hunt albinos for their magical body parts. I think its unfair to hold one religion over others for brutality.

I read the title and thought this would be about xtian fundies protesting Wiccans raising their kids as (shock) Wiccans. Sadly it is about xtians interfering in African cultures and abusing their children (shock ).

well Congo has over 200 years of being Christian. currently the population is 50% catholic and 20% protestant. 10% Kimbanguism (a local Christianity sect)
10% moslem, 10% other local faiths.

I suspect the Kimbanguism are at the route of this.

True, but then Christians don't hunt albinos for their magical body parts. I think its unfair to hold one religion over others for brutality.

Or rape them as a cure to HIV.

please tell me what Jesus has to do with it?

He dosn't have anything to do with it. He's dead.

from what I hear he was a total pussy who would get his arse kicked by children not the other way round

as for Mohamed...stop discriminating Muslims


The Muslims made the same mistake the Christians did. They picked a human as a religious icon. Their religion can be twisted to include extremism and so can Christianity. *cough cough Spanish Inquisition cough*

well Congo has over 200 years of being Christian. currently the population is 50% catholic and 20% protestant. 10% Kimbanguism (a local Christianity sect)
10% moslem, 10% other local faiths.

I suspect the Kimbanguism are at the route of this.

How fundie are the Kimbanguism? I bet very.

Oh, and it's "root".:tongue:

He dosn't have anything to do with it. He's dead.

no hes not from what I remember he never died after coming back from the dead just sorta flew off

but he does have something to do with it because you seem to be convinced that Jesus somehow influences this

The Muslims made the same mistake the Christians did. They picked a human as a religious icon. Their religion can be twisted to include extremism and so can Christianity. *cough cough Spanish Inquisition cough*

which has nothing to do with the new testaments teachings and allot more to do with old

oh wait whats that the old testament was about multiple people? Sacré-Blur!

*cough cough Spanish Inquisition cough*

Someone called me?:D

Someone called me?:D

well I wasn't expecting etc etc

well I wasn't expecting etc etc

Come now, CTP, you know that secretly you always expect me. Admit it. *elbows and raises brows coquettishly*

no hes not from what I remember he never died after coming back from the dead just sorta flew off Probably just stuck in traffic. :D

but he does have something to do with it because you seem to be convinced that Jesus somehow influences this

Not Jesus. How people interpret the new testament is the influence. And the sky's the limit on that isnt it?

which has nothing to do with the new testaments teachings and allot more to do with old

oh wait whats that the old testament was about multiple people? Sacré-Blur!

Yea I suppose I'm somewhat Jewish. But as far as the Old Testament goes, I suspect we got about 1% of the BIG PICTURE. God is there but to complex to understand.

Or rape them as a cure to HIV.

Whoever thought that one up should be crucified.

That's because Chistians are supposed to be above that. I agree it's bad no matter who does it, though, and i'd give everything to stop it, but it happens everywhere, Africa, America, Europe, Asia...everywhere where there are people who are afriad of the unseen, of invisible powers, and people who will exploits those people's fears for their personal gain, whether it's witch kids, demonic possessions, faith healings, or whatever.
Bolded for truth.^^

Yea the money seems to be the main culprit. I mean, a child there is declared a witch if they have big eyes. WTF??

Bolded for truth.^^

It's like any other crime or scam -- follow the money to see what's really behind it all. Even during the European Christian witch crazes, profit motive was never absent from the picture, because the church, the crown, even those who brought accusations against their neighbors, all stood to benefit by the taking of the accused's property and assets. For example, in the last big Christian witch scare, the Salem Witch Trials, every single one of the accused, whether they were convicted and hanged or released later as innocent, all had their assets taken, and the ones who divvied up the loot were the neighbors who accused them, the sheriff who arrested and tortured them, and the judge who tried them.

Follow the money, every single time.

Fear of hexes and "evil sendings" is one of the main weaknesses of the old pagan religions, but lately (meaning the last century or two), I have to say that Christian churches/missionaries have shown a disgusting readiness to exploit that failing for both profit and power.

In the old ways, a shaman/sorcerer could only blame a community's problems on witchcraft up to a point where it did not threaten the peace and stability of the community -- i.e. have them essentially sacrificing their children. At the very least, that potentially horrific flaw came with a safety valve because the authority claiming witchcraft and the power to dispell it was not himself seen as connected to any divine force different than the supposed witches. So he could be kicked out just as readily as an accused witch if he pushed the tolerance of the community too far. Witchcraft accusations definitely fall under a "he who smelt it, dealt it" rule, in which the one who is causing the conflict and creating the threat comes to be seen as the accuser, not the accused.

But these Christian priests/ministers claim a connection to divinity that comes with a massive penalty for resistance. When you are dealing with a congregation superstitious enough already to believe in witches, that is a major problem. There is almost no limit to what such a leader could pressure such people to do.

Whoever thought that one up should be crucified.

yeah i agree.

yeah i agree.

Or maybe they could shove a red-hot iron pole up his ass. He's responsible for hundreds of rapes.

Or maybe they could shove a red-hot iron pole up his ass. He's responsible for hundreds of rapes.

more like thousands.
and thousands of deaths from the transmission of HIV.

Fucking disgusting. Every one of those adults should be in jail, including the parents who stand by and allow this shit.

Five bucks says that these kids will reject Christianity when they grow up, all base on their experiences when they were accused as witches.

Five bucks says that these kids will reject Christianity when they grow up, all base on their experiences when they were accused as witches.

My money is on a large part of them wont grow up. Seems to be a precussor for abandoning the kids.

Nobody expects the Congolese Inquisition...

:headbang:

If I were God, I would abandon this fucking planet full of fucking assholes.

34.I - guess what, it's Me again -
35.Am seriously considering that.

Told ya.

Nobody expects the Congolese Inquisition...

:headbang:

If I were God, I would abandon this fucking planet full of fucking assholes.



Told ya.

Per favore, ho letto tutte queste citazioni che hai fatto. Questi sono molto divertente!:D

Queste sono molto divertenti!:D

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(queste: "citazioni" is feminine plural. divertenti: plural of adjectives ending with "-e" is always "-i").
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(queste: "citazioni" is feminine plural. divertenti: plural of adjectives ending with "-e" is always "-i").
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Grazie per las correcciones.;)