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I've got two questions for you:

1) How much sleep do you need per night?*

2) How much food do you need per day?*

*on average

I'm asking these two questions for, uhm, maybe obvious reasons: I'm trying to loose weight and right now I only eat after 18:00 once a day (not going to discuss how healthy that might be as long as it works)

(So far I've lost 4kg in less than 7 days since last Thursday. Go me!)

I'm interested in your average sleeping hours. How much do you rest per day?
Also interested in your average daily intake. How much do you eat per day?

Although I'm a little tired during the day because of my crazy "diet" and maybe today is an exception, since I'm still awake now, what's your secret to keeping or reducing whatever your scales say is favorable, and how do you keep track of what you're eating, maybe even keeping a healthy diet; and how much sleep do you think a person needs in general?

Any input is welcome as long as you keep on track.

And no, exercise like running is nothing I want to hear about!!!

So, let's see what NSG has to offer for me! :tongue:

Hey, where is the poll on this blog?

Hey, where is the poll on this blog?
Which blog? Which poll?

I asked NSG 2 valid questions.

Where's your answers to those?

But I want poll with my blog!

Spam, spam, spam and blog ... or Spam, poll, spam and spam ... just isn't good enough!

I want blog, poll, spam and spam.

And if I can't have that, I'll just have spam thanks.

But I want poll with my blog!

Spam, spam, spam and blog ... or Spam, poll, spam and spam ... just isn't good enough!

I want blog, poll, spam and spam.

And if I can't have that, I'll just have spam thanks.
What the fuck is wrong with you?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Bad diet, and not enough sleep.

*rimshot*

you need 8 hour sleep per night. Too little sleep will actually make it harder to lose weight.
Daily calorie intake varies based on age, physical activity, and body chemistry.
Id be extremely concerned however if your calorie intake was below 1500 calories a day.
you would likely be burning up muscle tissue rather then fat.

1) How much sleep do you need per night?*


What is this thing you call sleep?


2) How much food do you need per day?*

Not much. I can operate on a bowl of rice vermicelli broth with half a chicken drumstick, one stalk of bok choy, two slices of wheat toast, four crackers and a dollop of marmite per 24 hours. Maybe less, but I doubt I would be able to keep the exercise regime then.


(So far I've lost 4kg in less than 7 days since last Thursday. Go me!)


You'll lose a lot less as time goes by with no exercise.


So, let's see what NSG has to offer for me! :tongue:

Advice you'd probably wouldn't take unless it already fits in with what you want. :p

Want to lose weight? Here's what you do.

Get a full nights sleep every night. 8 hours. Eat a small meal within the first hour of waking up. Eat a total of 5 small meals throughout the day. Keep yourself well hydrated. Eat healthy meals (chicken, pork, lean beef, fish, and lots of veggies [minimal dressing on salads]). Increase your physical activity, be it through aerobics (which is best for losing weight) or strength training. Remember that your weight will not drop as quickly as if you starved yourself, as muscle is more dense than fat, but you will be healthier, more toned, and will be better able to burn the fat you take in.


I work to put on weight. I usually get about 8 hours of sleep, go to the gym in the morning, get home, have a protein shake and some kinda breakfast, and pretty regularly graze throughout the day. I don't track what I eat...I eat when I'm hungry, stop when I'm full, and keep the meals pretty strictly away from fats, sugars, and processed foods.

you need 8 hour sleep per night. Too little sleep will actually make it harder to lose weight.
Trying to get 1/3rd of the day.
Daily calorie intake varies based on age, physical activity, and body chemistry.
32, none, how would I know?
Id be extremely concerned however if your calorie intake was below 1500 calories a day.
I don't believe you have to be concerned. ;)
you would likely be burning up muscle tissue rather then fat.
Been there. But I honestly think that right now, it's rather fat than muscle...
What is this thing you call sleep?
Practically? I honestly don't know.
Theoretically? That stuff where you, well, uhm, lie down and don't do much?

Not much. I can operate on a bowl of rice vermicelli broth with half a chicken drumstick, one stalk of bok choy, two slices of wheat toast, four crackers and a dollop of marmite per 24 hours.
What's a dollop?

But besides that, do I really need marmite? That's the crazy yeast stuff, ain't it?

The only yeast I like is in bread and liquid bread (=beer!).
You'll lose a lot less as time goes by with no exercise.
That is the only thing I'm afraid of!

Neither will I be able to keep up this way of eating, nor will I be easily persuaded that I need to move my lazy ass to achieve more (even though I know that I should exercise regularly!)
Advice you'd probably wouldn't take unless it already fits in with what you want. :p
I appreciate it none the less - even though my inner ratfink (?!? - Is that a decent translation of "Schweinehund"?) is lazy...

1. I sleep about 5-6 interrupted hours per night (I usually take a nap during the day so I'm not really lacking sleep, I just don't get it all in one dose).

2. I only eat about 1.5 to 2 meals a day. Breakfast is coffee and fresh squeezed orange juice. Lunch is usually a sandwich and tea. Dinner is kind of this and that - sometimes I cook something, sometimes I just pull stuff out of the fridge or pantry.

The myth is that as people approach old age they need less sleep and less food. The reality is that they need 7-8 hours a night of sleep, but aches and pains, stress and other things make that difficult (this may account for a lot of the memory and cognitive function problems the elderly have - simple sleep deprivation). Because of the aches, pains and other mobility issues, we don't get as much exercise (which also impacts sleep), so we don't eat as much, which deprives us of needed nutrients - another factor in memory and cognitive function issues.

My input would be this - get enough sleep and exercise. Don't eat only one meal a day, eat several small ones - divide up the one big meal you eat into small portions and nibble on it throughout the day. Not only will you have a better chance of losing weight long term, you'll improve your chances of living a long, fully-functional (and by fully-functional I mean fully functional in the "I'm a dirty minded bitch" sense) life.

Been there. But I honestly thing that right now, it's rather fat than muscle...



If it is your first month on the diet it is mostly water.
People often get discouraged about diets when weight lose slows down after the first month.
use this site
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

though you will have to convert to US measurements.

Practically? I honestly don't know.
Theoretically? That stuff where you, well, uhm, lie down and don't do much?


I don't remember doing that much. But that could be a part of my conditioning I suppose.


What's a dollop?

But besides that, do I really need marmite? That's the crazy yeast stuff, ain't it?


A dollop is about roughly a tablespoon's worth. It's not necessary though. I just take it for the vitamins and the saltiness. You could supplement it with steamed/grilled button mushrooms instead, though the nutritional content is much lower.


Neither will I be able to keep up this way of eating, nor will I be easily persuaded that I need to move my lazy ass to achieve more (even though I know that I should exercise regularly!)

I can fix that with a well trained pair of German Sheppard's...

The easiest way is to start slow. Take a walk around somewhere, 20 minutes to half an hour or so. Then when you can do it easily, try increasing the speed a bit. Eventually, you'll have built yourself up to a decent pace.

Want to lose weight?
I think I have to!
Here's what you do.
This is what I hoped for!!! ;)
Get a full nights sleep every night. 8 hours.
Does it have to be during the night or only 8 hours at a strech?
Eat a small meal within the first hour of waking up.
Eh, not much of a breakfast person - even though I know it's considered the most important meal of the day...
Eat a total of 5 small meals throughout the day.
I eat a yoghurt or some fruit whenever I'm hungry - a coffee and a cigarette will only suppress the feeling of being hungry for so long...
Keep yourself well hydrated.
That I do! Lots of water, water, water!!! (By now I can pee like a world champion...):)
Eat healthy meals (chicken, pork, lean beef, fish, and lots of veggies [minimal dressing on salads]).
Check!
Increase your physical activity, be it through aerobics (which is best for losing weight) or strength training.
I'm taking a walk around the block each day. Not saying that I couldn't do more, but I - hate to admit it! - have to start slow. (And my knees don not agree with running...)
Remember that your weight will not drop as quickly as if you starved yourself, as muscle is more dense than fat, but you will be healthier, more toned, and will be better able to burn the fat you take in.
I'm convinced that this is that aimed-for state. I know that right now all I do is partially burn all the excessive fat readily available but I'm sure I'll hit the point soon at which nothing more'll happn.
I work to put on weight. I usually get about 8 hours of sleep, go to the gym in the morning, get home, have a protein shake and some kinda breakfast, and pretty regularly graze throughout the day. I don't track what I eat...I eat when I'm hungry, stop when I'm full, and keep the meals pretty strictly away from fats, sugars, and processed foods.
I've changed my diet from, well, junk, to more fruit and veggies, to a more diverse diet, and as funny as that might sound, I eat less because I chew my food more instead of wolfing it down, I try to stay away from fatty stuff, reduced the amount of daily sugar intake, and all in all try to eat more consciously, if you know what I mean.

I know it's only the beginning, but I do believe I have to change my daily diet and in the long run, I think I need to eat more with my brain that with my gut (or taste buds).

Thanks for the input, appreciate it!

That I do! Lots of water, water, water!!! (By now I can pee like a world champion...):)

Yeasty water AKA beer, doesn't count.

Here's how you lose weight. Take as much laxative as you want to, and learn how to activate your gag reflexes. :D

1. I sleep about 5-6 interrupted hours per night (I usually take a nap during the day so I'm not really lacking sleep, I just don't get it all in one dose).
Nothing wrong with an afternoon (power-)nap I take it?
2. I only eat about 1.5 to 2 meals a day. Breakfast is coffee and fresh squeezed orange juice. Lunch is usually a sandwich and tea. Dinner is kind of this and that - sometimes I cook something, sometimes I just pull stuff out of the fridge or pantry.
Usually I don't eat much during the day. T'was like that in the last 10+ years...

The myth is that as people approach old age they need less sleep and less food. The reality is that they need 7-8 hours a night of sleep, but aches and pains, stress and other things make that difficult (this may account for a lot of the memory and cognitive function problems the elderly have - simple sleep deprivation). Because of the aches, pains and other mobility issues, we don't get as much exercise (which also impacts sleep), so we don't eat as much, which deprives us of needed nutrients - another factor in memory and cognitive function issues.
I honestly hope I'm not quite there yet - but I'll keep that in mind! (If I can remember that! :p)
My input would be this - get enough sleep and exercise. Don't eat only one meal a day, eat several small ones - divide up the one big meal you eat into small portions and nibble on it throughout the day. Not only will you have a better chance of losing weight long term, you'll improve your chances of living a long, fully-functional (and by fully-functional I mean fully functional in the "I'm a dirty minded bitch" sense) life.
I think that is what I'm aiming for in the long-run.

Right now it's more about fitting into my summer clothes again and losing the weight I put on between December '08 and March '09. I honestly didn't eat very healthy while I was writing my final university paper and preparing for my oral exams.
If it is your first month on the diet it is mostly water.
Even though I drink very much, even more than I used to?
People often get discouraged about diets when weight lose slows down after the first month.
I pretty much expect this phase to happen any time soon!
use this site
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

though you will have to convert to US measurements.
Thanks. (At least I don't have to measure my weight in stones!!!)
I don't remember doing that much. But that could be a part of my conditioning I suppose.

A dollop is about roughly a tablespoon's worth. It's not necessary though. I just take it for the vitamins and the saltiness. You could supplement it with steamed/grilled button mushrooms instead, though the nutritional content is much lower.
:eek2:
I can fix that with a well trained pair of German Sheppard's...
Crap! Right now, all I can do is play dead...
The easiest way is to start slow. Take a walk around somewhere, 20 minutes to half an hour or so. Then when you can do it easily, try increasing the speed a bit. Eventually, you'll have built yourself up to a decent pace.
I think that's the only way I can honestly work up some sort of pace or something. I mean, I know I tend to want more all at once, but at the same time I know it won't happen and I cannot expect a miracle.

Buying that car in December didn't help much - meaning, while I wouldn't want to trade it back, I do realize that since I got it I haven't ridden my bike a single time. --- So much for a regular exercise... :$

But I'm taking the walks - even if little and slowly. That's a start, right? RIGHT? (<- in desperate need of encouragement, I take?)

Yeasty water AKA beer, doesn't count.
But... but... dang!

(If your intake is large enough, you don't feel like eating the next day, though.)

I knew there was a catch!

Here's how you lose weight. Take as much laxative as you want to, and learn how to activate your gag reflexes. :D
That's neither pretty nor a long(er) term solution. :(

(I shudder just thinking about uncontrolled bowel stuff!)

Thanks, y'all.

I better go working on my 7-8 hrs of sleep now. ;)


I'll be back!

1) How much sleep do you need per night?*
12 hours, though sadly, I rarely satisfy that. :(

2) How much food do you need per day?*
I only eat two average meals (usually lunch & dinner) because I miss one (or two) by sleeping. :) That's why I lose weight when I'm on vacation because I get to sleep my 12 hours... barring NSG. :p

:eek2:


If you think that is bad, you should consider the exercise regime I'm on. 6km run in 20 minutes. And that's just the start. Still, this it's only the mid-phase of the experiment, and intend to increase the distance/time requirements before too long.


Crap! Right now, all I can do is play dead...


I'll keep that in mind when training them.


I think that's the only way I can honestly work up some sort of pace or something. I mean, I know I tend to want more all at once, but at the same time I know it won't happen and I cannot expect a miracle.

Buying that car in December didn't help much - meaning, while I wouldn't want to trade it back, I do realize that since I got it I haven't ridden my bike a single time. --- So much for a regular exercise... :$

But I'm taking the walks - even if little and slowly. That's a start, right? RIGHT? (<- in desperate need of encouragement, I take?)

The walks are a start. So long as you keep in mind that they have to be increased in speed and length as time goes by.

One big meal is worse than eating small amounts many times a day. The less you eat the slower your metabolism will go because your body is only getting that one time feed and feels it needs to store up. Unless you plan on keeping this exact same schedule after you lose the weight.. I'd change it. It's common sense really. If you have no medical problem causing you retain or gain weight abnormally.. eat your 3 meals a day of real food not junk or fast food crap .. and even have some snacks (again not junk) between, drink water at some point everyday.. and at least walk (I don't mean walking at work .. I mean taking some time out of your day to just focus on walking adn getting your heart rate up for 15-30 mins at least).. If trying to lose... This would be slower than starving, but you would still lose and be training your metabolism. And it's healthy. My opinion, of course.

Edit: Also say you can't or just do not want to eat 3 meals a day.. (when I say a meal I don't mean something real heavy .. you can eat well without eating heavy) .. Do not skip breakfast.. ie your first meal.. that jump starts your metabolism. Can maybe instead of eating a real lunch have some healthy snacks a couple times during the day then eat supper.

1) How much sleep do you need per night?*

2) How much food do you need per day?*


1.I'd need about 7 hours per night, but usually I get only 5 or 6 in the weekdays, and I recover something on weekends (about 8 hours). Coooofffeeee......

2.I don't know the calories, but usually:
breakfast at 7.00: yoghurt, orange juice, one fruit if I'm hungry.
lunch at 13.00: half-portion of pasta (about 60 g), half-portion of meat (or fish), veggies
dinner at 20.00: either a full-portion of rice or pasta or vegetable soup, or a full-portion of either meat, fish, or cheese, plus veggies.

plus 4 to 6 espresso a day.

1) As much as I can possibly get. I love sleeping.

2) No idea, let's see... usually 2 slices of toast for breakfast, 1 Cup-a-Soup around 11ish, salad for lunch, and then cooking something for tea when I get home.
Possibly one or two biscuits with a cup of tea during the evening, and some fruit during the afternoon if available.

I usually sleep 5 or 7 hours, depending. If I wake up for a couple of days after just 5 .. I will find myself having to recoup that 3rd day.

My brother in law does the weekend catch up thing.. usually on Sunday. He's gotten use to it I guess.

I need to get back on my schedule where I wake up early. I feel better, have more energy and eat better when I do and everything is just more in sync.

and try to make most of the veges and stuff you eat alkaline.. not acidic.

I've got two questions for you:

1) How much sleep do you need per night?*

2) How much food do you need per day?*

-snip-

be careful your body doesn't go into "starvation-mode", and make sure what you do eat is very nutritious or you could end up malnourished

1. i typically sleep from midnight to 2am through to about 8.30am. so that's a maximum of 8 1/2 hours to a minimum of about 6 1/2. i'm fine on both, though after a week of the 2am's i need to have a night of going to bed early (before midnight) to catch up a bit.

2. varies. some days, like yesterday, i had a small breakfast, a little slice of birthday cake for lunch, and a single portion of lasagne for tea. some days i'll pig out for breakfast, have a big lunch out at a restaurant, and then pig out on pizza for tea. i probably *need* something somewhere in the middle. when i'm thinking about it, i try not to go over about 2500-3000 calories, but when i'm losing weight i drop that to 2000.

FYI i'm 5ft 11 @ ~110kg

1) So long as I'm not ill, not a lot. I can get up for work in the morning after 4 hours sleep and feel fine.

2) See above.

Yeasty water AKA beer, doesn't count.

It doesn't?

Damn, what about Russian water?

It doesn't?

Damn, what about Russian water?

Starch content. Not as bad as yeasty water, but not very good for dieters.

I sleep around 10-11 hours, and eat a brunch (something small, like a ham cheese and lettuce sandwich) and a dinner (something big, like a cottage pie). I also drink around two liters of milk a day. I also live an incredibly sedentary life, mainly reading, playing video games and watching TV and movies. I'm within my BMI limit and my weight has been constant for about two years now.

My sleep varies from 7 hours to 11 hours. Food I eat enough to keep me filled and energy levels up. Though my cupboards are looking quite bare. A food shop is in order!

Does it have to be during the night or only 8 hours at a strech?It doesn't have to be, but segmented sleep patterns are less restful, meaning that you will require more sleep total to equal a full 8 straight hours of sleep. Another thing that will make your sleep more restful is how you wake up. If you can find an alarm clock that slowly wakes you up, rather than suddenly beeping, you will feel more rested.

Eh, not much of a breakfast person - even though I know it's considered the most important meal of the day...I'm the same way, but even if you can just down a piece of fruit or toast or even a smoothie or something. When you first wake up, your body is low on energy from the time spent sleeping. If you don't give it nourishment, it will naturally reduce your metabolism for the rest of the day, thinking that food will not be available.

I eat a yoghurt or some fruit whenever I'm hungry - a coffee and a cigarette will only suppress the feeling of being hungry for so long...
two good choices.
That I do! Lots of water, water, water!!! (By now I can pee like a world champion...):)again, a good move. even mild dehydration will crush your metabolism (water is used in 3 of the 10 stages of the Krebs cycle)

I'm convinced that this is that aimed-for state. I know that right now all I do is partially burn all the excessive fat readily available but I'm sure I'll hit the point soon at which nothing more'll happn.Some people do plateau, and it can be very difficult to move past that point...there are certain tricks that a nutritionist or personal trainer could talk to you about, I believe, but as it stands, most people have a good amount of time before they come anywhere near that plateau, and those that have reached it rarely have any need to move beyond it.

I've changed my diet from, well, junk, to more fruit and veggies, to a more diverse diet, and as funny as that might sound, I eat less because I chew my food more instead of wolfing it down, I try to stay away from fatty stuff, reduced the amount of daily sugar intake, and all in all try to eat more consciously, if you know what I mean.All good moves. Don't deny your cravings, but try to work with them. Fruits take good care of sweet cravings, and many fruits taste great with a tiny pinch of salt sprinkled on if you have a massive craving for something salty. A great snack is popcorn if you want salty, too. Avoid the butter and oil coatings, and just throw on some garlic salt or something similar. Diversity is also key so that you don't get bored (ugh...carrots for a snack. Again. Really? Screw it...I'm having chips vs. Oh hell yeah, carrots! I haven't had these in forever!)

Three other things that work in a weird way: 1) eating off a blue plate. Blue is a very rare color for foods. As such, it does not make humans want to eat. It can work to make you eat less. 2) eat off a smaller plate. This will work in two ways. First, it makes a smaller portion look bigger. On the psych level, you will feel more full than if you put a tiny piece of chicken on a massive plate. The second way is that it makes you more conscious of your servings. You will notice that you've had two servings of potatoes already, and will be less likely to go back for a third, rather than a huge plate where the first serving was already actually a portion and a half. And I forget what 3 was going to be...
I know it's only the beginning, but I do believe I have to change my daily diet and in the long run, I think I need to eat more with my brain that with my gut (or taste buds).It is very difficult to change a diet, particularly when you are over the age of 20...habits are set in, comfort foods established...but new habits can always be created. It just takes a bit of work.

Thanks for the input, appreciate it!

No problem...always glad to help.

Cut down to four hours per night, hoping to get it to a steady three. I eat a light breakfast, usual a waffle, just one, no syrup, a small lunch, perhaps a can of soda, Saltine crackers and cheese, and a medium dinner, chicken of some sort, biscuits or rolls, and, of course, soda. With much snacking and soda in between.

Practically? I honestly don't know.
Theoretically? That stuff where you, well, uhm, lie down and don't do much?



Necrophialia?