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I've been working on a card and die based RPG for my English conversation class (this isn't homework; I "teach" the class). Part of it involves snake bites, which, to keep it semi-realistic, involves the player drawing a card depicting one of a selection of venomous snakes without listing a name. Now, I ended up drawing all the snakes, but I'm not sure if all are identifiable based on what I've drawn. Feedback regarding the feasibility of identifying the snakes would be appreciated. Likewise, if anyone has experience in treating snake bites in an environment where getting professional medical help is not an option, information on that would be helpful as well.

1.http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Agkistrodoncontortrix.png 2.http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Botriechisschlegelii.png 3.http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Dispholidustypus.png
4.http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Micrurustener.png 5.http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Viperaberus.png 6.http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Crotaluscerastes.png
7.http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Dendroaspispolylepis.png 8.http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Tropidolaemuswagleri.png

Names (white-texted) as follows (Latin/English):
1. Agkistrodon contortrix / Copperhead
2. Bothriechis schlegelii / Eyelash Palm Viper
3. Dispholidus typus / Boomslang
4. Micrurus tener / Coral Snake
5. Vipera berus / Common European Adder
6. Crotalus cerastes / Sidewinder Rattlesnake
7. Dendroaspis polylepis / Black Mamba
8. Tropidolaemus wagleri / Temple Viper

The second one could be mistaken for many different varieties of pit viper. I myself thought it was a sidewinder. However, looking at a photograph of the animal I suspect that it has less to do with your art and more to do with the fact that the two are rather similar in shape.

Honestly didn't figure the third was venomous. Head shape isn't typical. Usually dangerous snakes have a very triangular head.

I've always held to the school of thought that says if a snake is close enough to bite, it's of the variety Toodamnus Closeus.

I've always held to the school of thought that says if a snake is close enough to bite, it's of the variety Toodamnus Closeus.

Wuss. Snakes are very neat little critters. I used to catch 'em as a kid. Never been thick enough to get bitten.

The second one could be mistaken for many different varieties of pit viper. I myself thought it was a sidewinder. However, looking at a photograph of the animal I suspect that it has less to do with your art and more to do with the fact that the two are rather similar in shape.I actually haven't gotten around to doing the sidewinder yet, so that's a definite no. Sidewinders (at least one snake with the name) also have rattles, and tend to be shorter and fatter. But the ridges on the eyes are similar.
Honestly didn't figure the third was venomous. Head shape isn't typical. Usually dangerous snakes have a very triangular head.Lucky you. Probably wouldn't have figured out it's bite was the most dangerous of the group until you died five or so days later. =P

Wimpy snakes. Five days to kill a human? Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy.

Wimpy snakes. Five days to kill a human? Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy.Might want to read up on just how it kills you. It's the second deadliest of all venoms on the list of 8 snakes in planning, but by far the one with the nastiest results.
The others are meant to be wimpy. Can't have every snake bite being a death sentence.

I am deeply offended that this thread is not, in fact, about the most important of reptiles...the trouser snake.

Might want to read up on just how it kills you. It's the second deadliest of all venoms on the list of 8 snakes in planning, but by far the one with the nastiest results.
The others are meant to be wimpy. Can't have every snake bite being a death sentence.

I was mostly joking. But the lethality of snakes here tends to make people in Oz a bit blase about ones in other parts of the world.

I am deeply offended that this thread is not, in fact, about the most important of reptiles...the trouser snake.It's not venomous, and clearly not a reptile. It's warm-blooded.

'sides, I'm not allowed to bring alcoholic beverages to the drinking games, so trouser snakes are right out.
I was mostly joking. But the lethality of snakes here tends to make people in Oz a bit blase about ones in other parts of the world.Like I said, it's mainly because there needs to be a small chance of survival that I've been picking primarily wimpy snakes. No point in talking about how to treat a snake bite if the victim dies in seconds, and since it's a conversation class...

The only snakes I know how to identify is a King Brown, Red bellied black snake and a copperhead.

Now I was going to say that your picture of a copperhead is wrong, but a quick search on Wiki shows that you are correct in that it is a Agkistrodon contortrix as opposed to a Austrelaps.

The only snakes I know how to identify is a King Brown, Red bellied black snake and a copperhead.

Now I was going to say that your picture of a copperhead is wrong, but a quick search on Wiki shows that you are correct in that it is a Agkistrodon contortrix as opposed to a Austrelaps.Yeah, English snake names are a majorly confusing issue. Some of the snakes have drastically differing color patterns within the species as well. 2 would be a good example of just how unreliable the color pattern is for identifying the snake.

Snakes. Why'd it have to be snakes?

I hate snakes, Laerod. I hate 'em.

*whistles Indy theme*

I have a snake for ya to identify...

But I can't show it on NSG.

I have a snake for ya to identify...

But I can't show it on NSG.

You can always describe it if you want.

From what Nanatsu has said it is very small and always limp.

From what Nanatsu has said it is very small and always limp.

Nan desu ka?!:eek2:
I have never said a thing about his peepee! Know thyself!
<_<

You can always describe it if you want.

From what Nanatsu has said it is very small and always limp.

Project much?

Wuss. Snakes are very neat little critters. I used to catch 'em as a kid. Never been thick enough to get bitten.

To quote Jesse Custer: 'I'm not afraid, but I don't want to end up the world's bravest snake-bite victim, either.'

Where I used to live as a kid, they had 'rattlesnake roundups.' That was always a good time. They do them mostly in the Southwest, and GA. The biggest one is in(of course)Texas. http://www.rattlesnakeroundup.net/main/modules/page/

I've no idea about snakes, but one of my cats does. He occassionally catches them and drags their carcass in as a present for me.
The last two he caught, one was pretty impressive size - about 1.3m long and quite thick. The other not so impressive, a skinny little thing, and was still alive when he dragged it in. Poor thing could only move it's head, so I had to kill it.

I think my cat was bitten by a snake a while back too. He was very sluggish for a couple of days, mewing in a weird harsh, husky tone and wobbly on his feet, barely able to stand up. I was out all day Saturday so didn't notice til late (as in too late to get him to a vet late) how sick he looked. By the next day he was improving so didn't bother to take him to the vet. What could they do by that stage? Either he'd die or recover. Thankfully, he made a full recovery.

I only guessed right on the Copperhead. I thought the Coral Snake was a King Snake.. Now that I've looked up the King Snake .. they don't even look alike. Not sure why I thought king snake had yellow. And I also thought king snakes were venomous. Learned a couple things =)

1. K.A.! (Aber sicher giftig, oder?)
2. Hornviper? (nope!)
3. Grüne Mamba? (nope!)
4. Korallenschlange!!! (Hey, die kannte ich!)
5. Schwarze Mamba? (nope!)

Well, all I know is that I don't like snakes.

I hate it when the first reaction from some people when they see a snake is to - omg! kill it! Doesn't matter what kind or how big or small it is. I've picked up a few and toted them off away from people before they lynched it.

I hate it when the first reaction from some people when they see a snake is to - omg! kill it! Doesn't matter what kind or how big or small it is. I've picked up a few and toted them off away from people before they lynched it.
I have yet to encounter a snake out there.

Rest assured - my first reaction would not be "OMGKILLIT" but "OMGSNAKELETMETHROUGHINEEDTOGETAWAY!" :tongue:

I can appreciate them for the fascinating animals they are - but I'm not a big fan of (potentially) poisonous animals.

I have yet to encounter a snake out there.

Rest assured - my first reaction would not be "OMGKILLIT" but "OMGSNAKELETMETHROUGHINEEDTOGETAWAY!" :tongue:

good lol :)

Wish I could help, but here in Alabama there are a wide variety of snakes than can easily get displaced with a little rain. (some dangerous and some not) So most of us idendentify all breeds simply as
:eek: SNAAAAAKES!!! :eek:
:p

I hate it when the first reaction from some people when they see a snake is to - omg! kill it! Doesn't matter what kind or how big or small it is.

That pretty much sums up my immediate reaction to seeing a snake(except for the little garter snakes). You know why? Because they do things like this:

http://http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=14774

haha! I figured it was going to link to some of venomous bite pics.

And man that would suck .. I wonder if that snake was put there for the picture or if it was really just in the bowl?

I only guessed right on the Copperhead. I thought the Coral Snake was a King Snake.. Now that I've looked up the King Snake .. they don't even look alike. Not sure why I thought king snake had yellow. And I also thought king snakes were venomous. Learned a couple things =)
Well, at least you guessed correctly incorrectly once. (Scarlet) King Snakes and Coral Snakes are apparently similar enough to warrant the occasional mistake.
1. K.A.! (Aber sicher giftig, oder?)
2. Hornviper? (nope!)
3. Grüne Mamba? (nope!)
4. Korallenschlange!!! (Hey, die kannte ich!)
5. Schwarze Mamba? (nope!)

Well, all I know is that I don't like snakes.Black Mambas don't look mean. Hilariously enough, I find that 5 looks the meanest of all (if only because of the reddish tint in their eyes) and yet it's venom is the least harmful...

Black Mambas don't look mean. Hilariously enough, I find that 5 looks the meanest of all (if only because of the reddish tint in their eyes) and yet it's venom is the least harmful...
If you ask me, any snake looks mean enough for me. The bity ones, at least.

Let me take this opportunity, though, to congratulate you on the fantastic work you did with drawing the snakes. Nice!

Where I used to live as a kid, they had 'rattlesnake roundups.' That was always a good time. They do them mostly in the Southwest, and GA. The biggest one is in(of course)Texas. http://www.rattlesnakeroundup.net/main/modules/page/
What utter idiocy.

O Whacking Day, O Whacking Day
Our hallowed snake-skull cracking day
We'll break their backs
Gouge out their eyes
Their evil hearts we'll pulverize
O Whacking Day, O Whacking Day
May God bestow his grace on Thee.

Where I used to live as a kid, they had 'rattlesnake roundups.' That was always a good time. They do them mostly in the Southwest, and GA. The biggest one is in(of course)Texas. http://www.rattlesnakeroundup.net/main/modules/page/

May they be cursed with rats.

Let me take this opportunity, though, to congratulate you on the fantastic work you did with drawing the snakes. Nice!Thanks =)

Got the copperhead and the Coral Snake

I've always held to the school of thought that says if a snake is close enough to bite, it's of the variety Toodamnus Closeus.
Snakes are afraid of Irish people, I have nothing to worry about.
I am deeply offended that this thread is not, in fact, about the most important of reptiles...the trouser snake.

While occasionally venomous, they don't bite. Just spit.

Snakes are afraid of Irish people, I have nothing to worry about.

That's cos dear, ol' Pádraig chase them out of Érie.:D

That's cos dear, ol' Pádraig chase them out of Éire.:D

Yup. He attacked them with shamrock shurikens, and sent them fleeing to England.

Yup. He attacked them with shamrock shurikens, and sent them fleeing to England.

Aye. And there, in England, they evolved into the heads of Parliament.:D

Aye. And there, in England, they evolved into the heads of Parliament.:D

See, its not Jewish lizardmen controlling the world. Its protestant snakemen, and they don't control Ireland.

See, its not Jewish lizardmen controlling the world. Its protestant snakemen, and they don't control Ireland.

But they do control the UK and the queen is the head viperzors!http://clubf1.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/snake.gif

See, its not Jewish lizardmen controlling the world. Its protestant snakemen, and they don't control Ireland.
They're all aliens, I tell thee.

http://www.ufopaedia.org/images/a/ab/Snakeman.png

Aliens, I say!

They're all aliens, I tell thee.

http://www.ufopaedia.org/images/a/ab/Snakeman.png

Aliens, I say!

Snakes are from the moon.

What utter idiocy.

O Whacking Day, O Whacking Day
Our hallowed snake-skull cracking day
We'll break their backs
Gouge out their eyes
Their evil hearts we'll pulverize
O Whacking Day, O Whacking Day
May God bestow his grace on Thee.

May they be cursed with rats.

Hey, it's a unique cultural folkway. Where's your respect for diversity?

Snake? Snake!? SNAAAAAKE!!! (Had to be done)

That being said, I can neither identify nor stand snakes.

Hey, it's a unique cultural folkway. Where's your respect for diversity?

It's from the south of America and domestic.

There is an ad --->

Hey, it's a unique cultural folkway. Where's your respect for diversity?

I'll respect their culture when they respect mine. Mine is called "environmentalism" and it doesn't involve killing off a specific species for fun.

I can respect the cook-off, a competition to make snake-meat tasty. Not so much the snake-meat eating contest, which like any eating contest is the conspicuous waste of good human food.

I can respect all the pageantry, the "folkway" which brings people of different interests together to share their enthusiasms. Not so much, the co-opting of children into a culture of gratuitous slaughter, eg the Girl Guides cook-off.

But it's not me who, god-like, visits a plague of rats and mice and annoying hopping and biting small creatures apon the Roundupers and their entirely innocent neighbours.

It is ecology, the natural master of my human creed of environmentalism, which will do that.

The eagles and coyotes are dead, killed by pesticides and guns. So the snakes breed up. So you kill the snakes, and make a big parade of it. Then you get rats. So you kill the rats, which are harder to track down and need less discriminate measures ... and that's the last of your birds and mammals gone. So the insects breed up, while the destruction moves on down to the vegetable kingdom.

At some point, Texans are going to decide that the place is enough of a desert already. They start worrying about farms, towns, even cities disappearing under sand dunes. They start to die themselves, from the less and less discriminate means necessary to control the insects, ants, bacteria which are thriving on the corpses of what used to be their natural predators, their natural control.

Yeah, so maybe it is better for all the humans around there, that these snake-killers not have quite so much fun. Maybe it's better not to wait for these idiots to realize the logical consequences of their actions, since those consequences punish not just them.

Maybe it's better that I curse them with a plague of rats, and leave it to their own ignorance of science to call me an angel or demon, who works fearsome magic of predicting the future. And bow down before me and do my will.

A plague of rats upon their sorry arses!

I added the three remaining snakes that I recently finished. If anyone would like to give them a shot as well, it would be greatly appreciated.

Didn't get any of the new ones right.. number 6 looked familiar. It's not your drawings btw.. it's me just not knowing snakes hehe