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Some of the latest slang bothers me. There are three phrases that have to with the President and they all bug me. I know some people who don't use slang at home. I guess the mother is bothered by it. What, if any slang annoys you?

What are these three phrases that has to do with the President?

Ebonics pissed me off. All the hell that we went through just to make the word "ain't" legal then someone comes along with a whole book of new words. One word at a time. That's the rule.

Ebonics pissed me off. All the hell that we went through just to make the word "ain't" legal then someone comes along with a whole book of new words. One word at a time. That's the rule.

I honestly don't like 'ain't'.

Wassup my president?

If slang ever bothers me, it's simply do to how it sounds. I've no problem with abbreviation, I just don't like the sound of ugly words.

I honestly don't like 'ain't'.

See what I mean? Ain't is legal but after all these years, still not completly acceptable. What were the Ebonicites thinking wanting a whole book of ain't(ish) words?

I really dislike the use of 'gay' as a derogative. Or, in fact, as a 'non-word' - a description without meaning that just acts as filler, it really destroys words' actual meanings.

Ebonics pissed me off. All the hell that we went through just to make the word "ain't" legal then someone comes along with a whole book of new words. One word at a time. That's the rule.
"Ain't" is the contraction for "am not", I am annoyed when it is used improperly.


I really dislike the use of 'gay' as a derogative. Or, in fact, as a 'non-word' - a description without meaning that
just acts as filler, it really destroys words' actual meanings.
^This.

As Jordaxia well knows, I revel in the ironic use of slang, because I despise all of it.

As Jordaxia well knows, I revel in the ironic use of slang, because I despise all of it.

Are you using the word "ironic" properly though? :p

Are you using the word "ironic" properly though? :p

Yes.

Ebonics pissed me off.

^This.

I really dislike the use of 'gay' as a derogative. Or, in fact, as a 'non-word' - a description without meaning that just acts as filler, it really destroys words' actual meanings.

Ditto.

Wassup my president?

If slang ever bothers me, it's simply do to how it sounds. I've no problem with abbreviation, I just don't like the sound of ugly words.

This, if a word sounds ugly or offensive I don't like it.

Ebonics pissed me off. All the hell that we went through just to make the word "ain't" legal then someone comes along with a whole book of new words. One word at a time. That's the rule.
Er, ain't used to be FAR more accepted than it is now.

Er, ain't used to be FAR more accepted than it is now.

if I remember correctly Ain't is now accepted to mean "Am Not, Are Not, or Will Not"

Er, ain't used to be FAR more accepted than it is now.

Shhh. Bill Withers might change his song to #There is not any sunshine when she's gone....#

and then all of these guys that coverd the song:

Bobby Blue Bland
Fall Out Boy
Will Hoge
BB King
Nikki Webster
Adam Thomas Trio
James Taylor
Freddie King
Betty Wright
Adam Again
Buddy Guy
Ted Levine
Tracy Chapman
Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
Paul McCartney
Tom Jones
Joe Cocker
Kenny Rogers
Mark Knopfler & Al Jarreau
Andy Abraham
Sina
BoA
Justin Timberlake & Robyn Troup
Rockmelons & Deni Hines
Lyn Collins
Ziggy Marley
Rahsaan Roland Kirk
Lighthouse Family
Horace Andy
Johnny Clarke
Joan Osborne
Maroon 5
Ben Harper
Sting
Lenny Kravitz
Soul For Real
The Temptations
Eva Cassidy
Tori Amos
Al Jarreau
Roy Ayers
Max Mutzke
Maynard Ferguson
D'Angelo
Michael Jackson[4]
Will Young
Woven Hand
Hanson
Emily King
Me First and the Gimme Gimmes
Slavi Trifonov
Justin Nozuka
Kashmere Stage Band
Matt Andersen
Ken Boothe
Budka Suflera
Ivan "Boogaloo Joe" Jones
DMX
Ja Rule
Junior Murvin
Wynonna Judd
Christina Christian
Sydney Youngblood
Rachel Z
Finger Eleven
Augustus Pablo
Jose Feliciano
Maysa
Akon
Jeff Beck
Michael Bolton
Boney James
Elvis Costello
Isaac Hayes
Hella Taichman Zaltz
Leonard Cohen
Marvin Gaye
Percy Sledge
The Police
Boris Gardiner
Savoy Brown
Daphne's Flight
Al Green
Des'ree & Ladysmith Black Mambazo
David Sanborn
UB40
Van Morrison
Buddy Guy & Tracy Chapman
Everlast & DMX
Giorgia
Subsonica
Paul Brown
Rodney Jones
Sivuca
Aaron Neville
Fable
Grover Washington, Jr.
Victor Wooten
Scott Walker
Merrill Osmond
Ysabella Brave
Sakis Rouvas
Cat Stevens
Dave McPherson
Kris Allen
Tereza Kerndlová
Montezuma's Revenge (music)
Chris Winters

would have to change it too. :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ain%27t_No_Sunshine

I dislike the phrases 'Epic Win' and it's correlate, 'Epic Fail', as well as the related phrases that involve that(i.e. 'made of win', you fail posting forever, etc.). It just sounds retarded.

Also, people who use Internet acronyms when they're actually talking to other people, instead of just when they're sending text messages. I swear, if I hear one more bubble-head say 'OMG!' I'm going to rip her tongue out.

Some of the latest slang bothers me. There are three phrases that have to with the President and they all bug me. I know some people who don't use slang at home. I guess the mother is bothered by it. What, if any slang annoys you?

To answer this question, I need a definition of "slang" from you. Is "slang" anything that isn't in the dictionary? Which dictionary? What country? What language?

And what the hell does anyone's president have to do with slang?

^This.

Why?

Why?

Because try as I might, I can't understand the slang of African-Americans. I have tried, but it's impossible for me. I listen and listen to what they're saying and I can't understand it. Call it the bane on the polyglots if you want. We can speak many languages, but idioms and slang fly over our heads.

Because try as I might, I can't understand the slang of African-Americans. I have tried, but it's impossible for me. I listen and listen to what they're saying and I can't understand it. Call it the bane on the polyglots if you want. We can speak many languages, but idioms and slang fly over our heads.

Probably because you haven't studied it as a dialect, and instead expect to understand it just because you understand academic English. Every language has a wide array of related dialects. If I study Castillian Spanish in school, I don't expect to be able to understand everything said by, say, a teenager in Lima.

As Jordaxia well knows, I revel in the ironic use of slang, because I despise all of it.

Is there anything you don't despise?

Because try as I might, I can't understand the slang of African-Americans. I have tried, but it's impossible for me. I listen and listen to what they're saying and I can't understand it. Call it the bane on the polyglots if you want. We can speak many languages, but idioms and slang fly over our heads.

It's not just black people who have slang, ya know.

Today's slang is tomorrow's mainstream language and yesterday's slang is now part of today's mainstream language. I really don't want to hear expressions like "'sup" or "ho" or "how's it hangin', dood" become mainstream, but language evolves however it will and I fully expect that in 100 or so years the English language will contain so many Spanish, French, Vietnamese, Korean, Arabic, Chinese, Iraqi and "Ebonic" words and phrases that we would hardly recognize it. And they would consider our language as archaic and difficult to understand as Shakespearian English.

No slang bothers me really.

Well okay two bits about slang bother me.

The first is my dismay at the seeming loss of good old cockney ryming slang. I was tyalking to a 26 year old the other week, he is London born and bread, yet when I ask him if he fancied a Ruby, he just didn't know what i meant.

The second is the misuse of the word Chav. Chav was, is, and will always mean, a young child, to me.

I really dislike the use of 'gay' as a derogative. Or, in fact, as a 'non-word' - a description without meaning that just acts as filler, it really destroys words' actual meanings.

^Yhis



The first is my dismay at the seeming loss of good old cockney ryming slang. I was tyalking to a 26 year old the other week, he is London born and bread, yet when I ask him if he fancied a Ruby, he just didn't know what i meant.


As far as I can tell cockney ryming slang evolves along with popular culture since a lot of it is made up cultural references - so chances are he does use cockney ryming slang, just different ones from the ones you know :p

^Yhis




As far as I can tell cockney ryming slang evolves along with popular culture since a lot of it is made up cultural references - so chances are he does use cockney ryming slang, just different ones from the ones you know :p

While it's true that all slang evolves included cockney, some of the older cockney slang words have been around for donkeys. I didn't really learn it as such, it was just part of everyday language whilst I was growing up. Now of course my chidlren have picked it up from me and their mu, and even they come home with reports that their mates can't understand them.

I mean I'm talking about well known words and phrases.

'Have a butchers'
'Skin and blister'
'Trouble and strife'

And on and on. To claryfy, I still hear these words everyday, normaly from people at least my age. I just can't belive that this particular slang has started to die, and that possibly my generation may be the last one using it.

Today's slang is tomorrow's mainstream language and yesterday's slang is now part of today's mainstream language. I really don't want to hear expressions like "'sup" or "ho" or "how's it hangin', dood" become mainstream, but language evolves however it will and I fully expect that in 100 or so years the English language will contain so many Spanish, French, Vietnamese, Korean, Arabic, Chinese, Iraqi and "Ebonic" words and phrases that we would hardly recognize it. And they would consider our language as archaic and difficult to understand as Shakespearian English.

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That movie... game me... a huge... headache!:(

That movie... game me... a huge... headache!:(

Sorry... what Anti-Social Darwinism posted made me think of it.

Sorry... what Anti-Social Darwinism posted made me think of it.

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LMAO.

Oh man.

Slang? I like slang. I like my ability to switch from slang to sounding intellectual (notice I said sounding:p) whenever I wish. That's what happens when you grow up in the land of the hillbillies though.

LMAO.

Oh man.

Slang? I like slang. I like my ability to switch from slang to sounding intellectual (notice I said sounding:p) whenever I wish. That's what happens when you grow up in the land of the hillbillies though.

Slang huh! Now I wonder just what 'The one eyed weasel' is slang for?:D

The only slang I don't like is when it has no meaning or reasonable purpose. A lot of management speak irritates me for this reason.

The only slang I don't like is when it has no meaning or reasonable purpose. A lot of management speak irritates me for this reason.

Now this confusses me. Yeah a lot of management speak seems ridiculose, but meaningless no.

The only slang I don't like is when it has no meaning or reasonable purpose. A lot of management speak irritates me for this reason.

There's meaning in there. Its "please don't question what I'm doing, the truth hurts my ego".

No slang bothers me really.

Well okay two bits about slang bother me.

The first is my dismay at the seeming loss of good old cockney ryming slang. I was tyalking to a 26 year old the other week, he is London born and bread, yet when I ask him if he fancied a Ruby, he just didn't know what i meant.

That's not really a good example: I didn't know what that one was, and I find out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockney_slang) it refers to some obscure 1950s Irish singer. So I'm not surprised no-one uses it, slang needs to have a contemporary basis.

That's not really a good example: I didn't know what that one was, and I find out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockney_slang) it refers to some obscure 1950s Irish singer. So I'm not surprised no-one uses it, slang needs to have a contemporary basis.

Does not!:p

Everybody knows that 'Apples and pears' means stairs. Now I wonder how long that has been around?

'Me old mucker' comes from WWII, that is still in use.

A copper is still called a 'Rozer', and that is soooooooo old, in fact how old is calling a policeman a Copper?

And Ruby, nobody uses the term Ruby, you are joking aintcha?

And now lets talk about a nice bit of slang that I have been hearing in use again over the last few years.

That's right, i'm talking about that phrase 'Ohh my days'. I first heard it as a kid when I heard my grand mothers gossiping, imagine then my delight when I found that the 'Yoof' has chossen to reserect it.:D

Not slang, but I really, really hate “aye”, that is, the archaic exclamation “yes”. I can’t help but find it pretentious. I hate its recent surge in use on these forums; those responsible for it know who they are. “Aye” should be confined to the lexicon of swashbuckling pirates.

Not slang, but I really, really hate “aye”, that is, the archaic exclamation “yes”. I can’t help but find it pretentious. I hate its recent surge in use on these forums; those responsible for it know who they are. “Aye” should be confined to the lexicon of swashbuckling pirates.

It is also still prevelant in some parts of our fair country.

Not slang, but I really, really hate “aye”, that is, the archaic exclamation “yes”. I can’t help but find it pretentious. I hate its recent surge in use on these forums; those responsible for it know who they are. “Aye” should be confined to the lexicon of swashbuckling pirates.

Pretentious?

Really?

I have heard it used and use it in a Scottish accent, as a way of saying yes but much more lower class. It would be much more pretentious to reply with "yes" said in an accent similar to the Prince of Wales.

Pretentious?

Really?

I have heard it used and use it in a Scottish accent, as a way of saying yes but much more lower class.
I mean precisely in this way, so stop it. Quick, before you inflict any more of your no doubt loveable cockney airs on anyone else. How many of us do you think are charming, rustic Scottish highlanders? Yes, as Peepelonia hinted, there are some parts of the world for which “aye” is common dialectal usage. For the rest of us it’s affected and it sounds artificial, forced and ridiculous.

I mean precisely in this way, so stop it. How many of us are charming, rustic Scots? Yes, as Peepelonia hinted, there are some parts of the world for which “aye” is common dialectal usage. For the rest of us it’s affected and it sounds artificial, forced and ridiculous.

Now who is being pretentious?

And hardly meant to be charming Scots, more similar to one of the lower class angry Scots.

Not slang, but I really, really hate “aye”, that is, the archaic exclamation “yes”. I can’t help but find it pretentious. I hate its recent surge in use on these forums; those responsible for it know who they are. “Aye” should be confined to the lexicon of swashbuckling pirates.

Going to say, STFU, I'm scottish, and I have full right to say it. And I do, on these very forums. It has no meaning of pretentiousness whatsoever, it is simply part of my language.

Now this confusses me. Yeah a lot of management speak seems ridiculose, but meaningless no.

There's meaning in there. Its "please don't question what I'm doing, the truth hurts my ego".

I think most of it has no reasonable purpose - usually it is saying something straightforward in a stupidly complex way, the purpose is to make the speaker seem more important and intelligent.

Going to say, STFU, I'm scottish, and I have full right to say it. And I do, on these very forums. It has no meaning of pretentiousness whatsoever, it is simply part of my language.

It's also common in a lot of dialects from the north of England. I know I have certainly picked up using it since moving to York, along with owt, nowt and occasional addition of 'of' into sentences... not going so far as to drop 'the' down to t' yet though.

Going to say, STFU, I'm scottish, and I have full right to say it. And I do, on these very forums. It has no meaning of pretentiousness whatsoever, it is simply part of my language.

Idioms, indeed. But I think these seem to fly over Xirnium's head. Go figure.

"Vosotros" (you, plural) is an archaism, but we Spaniards use it, it's part of our discourse. We do recognize that this idiom is not a part of the Spanish spoken in Latin America, but that doesn't make it incorrect.

Going to say, STFU, I'm scottish, and I have full right to say it. And I do, on these very forums. It has no meaning of pretentiousness whatsoever, it is simply part of my language.
It seems I’ve annoyed just precisely the type of people I imagined would most agree with me! Don’t you see I support your sacred right to reply with a jolly “aye” as much as I support the right of a Frenchman to cork a fine bottle of champagne?

Idioms, indeed. But I think these seem to fly over Xirnium's head. Go figure.

"Vosotros" (you, plural) is an archaism, but we Spaniards use it, it's part of our discourse. We do recognize that this idiom is not a part of the Spanish spoken in Latin America, but that doesn't make it incorrect.

We have plural you in scotland too.Very simple, here it comes. Yous. "Hey, all yous over there! come here!" I tend to avoid it though, because it doesn't often fit into my mode of speech.

Xirnium, don't be so serious. That was faux-indignation on my part. it takes more than that to make me genuinely indignant. I still actually disagree with you. I only mind when someone borrows a word in dialect when they're using it specifically to try and sound like a person of that culture. if someone came up to me and started speaking in a thick glaswegian dialect with a heavy american accent for purposes of trying to 'engage' with me, they'd bloody well better be John Barrowman or I'm going to think they're trying to mock me. If they just liked how the individual pieces of dialect sounded, however, then they're welcome to use it. After all, I occasionally speak a few words of french and german that I like the sound of when not actually trying to -speak- those languages. They've just become part of how I speak.

Eofaerwic, yeah, it's common in North England as well for sure, but then that's hardly surprising, unless they've changed how borders work to become these weird solid walls that culture and dialect cannot cross recently :D

It's also common in a lot of dialects from the north of England. I know I have certainly picked up using it since moving to York, along with owt, nowt and occasional addition of 'of' into sentences... not going so far as to drop 'the' down to t' yet though.
Well I’ll leave it to others to get all prissy about the quality (or lack thereof) of English usage in the United Kingdom. If you don’t mind I think I’ll confine my smug superiority to observations about how people talk in Australia, and (because I honestly won’t ever muster the fortitude to stop being so patronisingly expert on its charming inhabitants) the United States.

Xirnium, don't be so serious. That was faux-indignation on my part. it takes more than that to make me genuinely indignant.
I assure you, my tongue hasn’t withdrawn itself from my cheek all night.

Well I’ll leave it to others to get all prissy about the quality (or lack thereof) of English usage in the United Kingdom. If you don’t mind I think I’ll confine my smug superiority to observations about how people talk in Australia, and (because I honestly won’t ever muster the fortitude to stop being so patronisingly expert on its charming inhabitants) the United States.

Aye, you keep at it young lad. :p

You hell want to pretend to be the normal person while criticising people you have become, hey? :tongue:

God, you people are old. How can slang annoy you?

God, you people are old. How can slang annoy you?

Hush child, adults are talking.

Hush child, adults are talking.

Sorry to disturb you gramps. Why don't you go and have a little lie down?

Sorry to disturb you gramps. Why don't you go and have a little lie down?

Isn't it past your bedtime?

Isn't it past your bedtime?

Could say the same for you.

Isn't t time someone changed your nappy?

Could say the same for you.

Isn't t time someone changed your nappy?

You've just made yourself an enema for life

You've just made yourself an enema for life

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How many of us do you think are charming, rustic Scottish highlanders? Yes, as Peepelonia hinted, there are some parts of the world for which “aye” is common dialectal usage. For the rest of us it’s affected and it sounds artificial, forced and ridiculous.
Perhaps. It's common usage round here.

Also, unless I'm mistaken, you're from Oz. It's not really surprising that Scots slang/dialect is preserved in places like Australia where massive Scottish immigration has taken place. Just as words like 'wee' (small) and 'poke' (bag) are preserved in Appalachia, Nova Scotia, etc.


We have plural you in scotland too.Very simple, here it comes. Yous. "Hey, all yous over there! come here!"
Or, confusingly, as a singular:

"Whit yoos bin upta?"

Slang does irritate me, the bastardization of the english language is a sign that kids nowadays are getting dumber and stupider with each generation.

Slang does irritate me, the bastardization of the english language is a sign that kids nowadays are getting dumber and stupider with each generation.

Sarcasm?

Slang does irritate me, the bastardization of the english language is a sign that kids nowadays are getting dumber and stupider with each generation.

People have been saying that since long before you were born.
"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond
words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and
respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise
[disrespectful] and impatient of restraint"

...the bastardization of the english language
American English language?

Slang does irritate me, the bastardization of the english language is a sign that kids nowadays are getting dumber and stupider with each generation.

I'm sure the speakers of Old English would look upon your speech with very much disdain as well.

Also, bastardisation, amirite?

American English language?

That's why I asked if it was sarcasm. And the small "e".

I also would like to mention that, while I dislike most slang, i am currently making an effort to make Shakespearean prose the new slang. :wink:

So far though, the project seems to spread to only one person. :(

American English language?

Good call.

American English language?

Is there any other kind, really?

Is there any other kind, really?

:mad:

I also would like to mention that, while I dislike most slang, i am currently making an effort to make Shakespearean prose the new slang. :wink:

So far though, the project seems to spread to only one person. :(

Shakespeare created tons of slang in the 16th century. Many (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/245526/you_might_be_quoting_shakespeare_without.html) words/phrases are still used today.

Does not!:p

Everybody knows that 'Apples and pears' means stairs. Now I wonder how long that has been around?

'Me old mucker' comes from WWII, that is still in use.

A copper is still called a 'Rozer', and that is soooooooo old, in fact how old is calling a policeman a Copper?

And Ruby, nobody uses the term Ruby, you are joking aintcha?

And now lets talk about a nice bit of slang that I have been hearing in use again over the last few years.

That's right, i'm talking about that phrase 'Ohh my days'. I first heard it as a kid when I heard my grand mothers gossiping, imagine then my delight when I found that the 'Yoof' has chossen to reserect it.:D

Problem with claiming slang should continue is that all generations want their own. And it never has made sense: how could 'bad-ass' ever be made to describe something very good?

Shakespeare created tons of slang in the 16th century. Many (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/245526/you_might_be_quoting_shakespeare_without.html) words/phrases are still used today.

It does sometimes seem that Shakespeare made up words just for the hell of it to see if they caught on.

Most of them did

It does sometimes seem that Shakespeare made up words just for the hell of it to see if they caught on.

Most of them did

I wish I could get away with shit like that.

Baby bump makes me disproportionately angry.

The phrases are: What's up, my Obama, Barack you and Barack's in the White House now. The meanings are hello, bless you and cool it. I did not vote for him, which is probably why I feel the way I do. It's to do with young people liking him. Also, his funny name is fun for young people to mess with.

The phrases are: What's up, my Obama, Barack you and Barack's in the White House now. The meanings are hello, bless you and cool it. I did not vote for him, which is probably why I feel the way I do. It's to do with young people liking him. Also, his funny name is fun for young people to mess with.

You didn't elect him your president? But... but... aren't you Obama's #1 fan?! Oh, I have been deceived!!!

*runs away, crying*

The phrases are: What's up, my Obama, Barack you and Barack's in the White House now. The meanings are hello, bless you and cool it. I did not vote for him, which is probably why I feel the way I do. It's to do with young people liking him. Also, his funny name is fun for young people to mess with.

Thank God we have a guy with a funny name in office so we can "mess" with it. It was a drag having eight years of Bush and Dick in the White House.

While it's true that all slang evolves included cockney, some of the older cockney slang words have been around for donkeys. I didn't really learn it as such, it was just part of everyday language whilst I was growing up. Now of course my chidlren have picked it up from me and their mu, and even they come home with reports that their mates can't understand them.

I mean I'm talking about well known words and phrases.

'Have a butchers'
'Skin and blister'
'Trouble and strife'

And on and on. To claryfy, I still hear these words everyday, normaly from people at least my age. I just can't belive that this particular slang has started to die, and that possibly my generation may be the last one using it.

I fin' the most annoyin' fin' abaht the dialect is 'a obscure it can be. I mean, I realize that was the entire point, but 'a 're ya supposed ter pick it up? I'm Bobby it's a charmin' dialect wif wonderful 'istory. but it's so blimey 'ard ter learn that ya shouldn't be surprised chicken pen ovver Londoners can't speak it.

And now that I've offended Cockney speakers everywhere, my question stands. It feels like it should be impossible to learn a dialect like that, at least on any sort of large scale.

Problem with claiming slang should continue is that all generations want their own. And it never has made sense: how could 'bad-ass' ever be made to describe something very good?

Well I did not make such a claim. What I did is that some slang words have been in existance for ages, and I think probably will be so, and I gave some examples of such.

I fin' the most annoyin' fin' abaht the dialect is 'a obscure it can be. I mean, I realize that was the entire point, but 'a 're ya supposed ter pick it up? I'm Bobby it's a charmin' dialect wif wonderful 'istory. but it's so blimey 'ard ter learn that ya shouldn't be surprised chicken pen ovver Londoners can't speak it.

And now that I've offended Cockney speakers everywhere, my question stands. It feels like it should be impossible to learn a dialect like that, at least on any sort of large scale.

Whats hard to learn, the accent? Or the slang?
I naturaly have a London accent having been here most of my life, my kids who were born here also have the London accent, and my wife is an Essex girl.

Whats hard to learn, the accent? Or the slang?
I naturaly have a London accent having been here most of my life, my kids who were born here also have the London accent, and my wife is an Essex girl.

Oh joy, a family where the 2 worst South Eastern accents (and they're all pretty bad) combine. Peeps what have you done?

Oh joy, a family where the 2 worst South Eastern accents (and they're all pretty bad) combine. Peeps what have you done?

Bwahahah I don't know, I live here I don't really notice it. I must say though that whenever I do hear a London accent, it does warm the cockles a bit. *Shrug* I donno why as I don't really have a patriotic bone in my body.

Well I did not make such a claim. What I did is that some slang words have been in existance for ages, and I think probably will be so, and I gave some examples of such.

I wasn't really disagreeing with you. I'd say Cockney slang is unusual in its continued use through several generations, but yes, it does appear to be waning.

Also, his funny name is fun for young people to mess with.
Have you been asleep for the last 8 years or something?
Thank God we have a guy with a funny name in office so we can "mess" with it. It was a drag having eight years of Bush and Dick in the White House.

I know, how are they less funny than Barack Obama?

You didn't elect him your president? But... but... aren't you Obama's #1 fan?! Oh, I have been deceived!!!

*runs away, crying*
I made fun of his initials because I had reservations big time for a while. The only reason for the Obama threads was I knew they would create discussion. There are Obama fans here, which is how I knew that.

The only reason for the Obama threads was I knew they would create discussion. There are Obama fans here, which is how I knew that.

Ah, you were baiting.:wink:

Oh joy, a family where the 2 worst South Eastern accents (and they're all pretty bad) combine. Peeps what have you done?

How are they bad? It's far better than sounding like a farmer.

The slang which most annoys me is that which drives me to consult the Urban Dictionary.

It is embarrassing to appear uncool like dat.

Ah, you were baiting.:wink:


Umm a bit of master baiting?:D

The slang which most annoys me is that which drives me to consult the Urban Dictionary.

It is embarrassing to appear uncool like dat.

Hahahah. I was stuck in the back of my sisters car last night talkin to her 13 year old son. He was talking about some film or other and said that he has seen it bear times.

I asked him how many tims is that, and he replied 5 times.

So I said to him, ummm so bear means 5 huh, what about 4 times? I asked him, if I have seen a film 4 times do I say 'I seen dat film ostrich times man'

He didn't laugh, I sometimes think I'm the most uncool uncle around, and then I remember who I am!:D

When I hear about people seeing bear films, i think bare, and my mind goes back to blue tv channels in nameless motel rooms.

Hahahah. I was stuck in the back of my sisters car last night talkin to her 13 year old son. He was talking about some film or other and said that he has seen it bear times.

I asked him how many tims is that, and he replied 5 times.

So I said to him, ummm so bear means 5 huh, what about 4 times? I asked him, if I have seen a film 4 times do I say 'I seen dat film ostrich times man'

He didn't laugh, I sometimes think I'm the most uncool uncle around, and then I remember who I am!:D

:D I think I might use this on my brother some time.

When I hear about people seeing bear films, i think bare, and my mind goes back to blue tv channels in nameless motel rooms.

You mean bare, not bear. Why don't you like it?

Whats hard to learn, the accent? Or the slang?
I naturaly have a London accent having been here most of my life, my kids who were born here also have the London accent, and my wife is an Essex girl.

The slang, is what I mean. The accent would merely take exposure to understand, but I'm interested in the vocabulary itself.

Let's take the phrase, "do you fancy a Ruby?" that was used earlier. Now from what I've been told, it goes Ruby = Ruby Murray = Curry. Assuming that's even correct, how are people expected to learn that? I mean, I understand that it was always meant to be obscure to an extent, but even so.

The slang, is what I mean. The accent would merely take exposure to understand, but I'm interested in the vocabulary itself.

Let's take the phrase, "do you fancy a Ruby?" that was used earlier. Now from what I've been told, it goes Ruby = Ruby Murray = Curry. Assuming that's even correct, how are people expected to learn that? I mean, I understand that it was always meant to be obscure to an extent, but even so.

That is indeed correct, and I guess those native to London easpecialy those whos family are native to London would learn it as I did. The same way that we all learn our native tounge. By listening to our perants, and copying how they speak.

That is how I know it, by dint of growing up in London, that is how my kids have picked it up.

Also, I don't care for homie however you spell it. It sounds like gang talk or something.

You mean bare, not bear. Why don't you like it?
It was his own made up term. I guess you could call it his personal slang.

It was his own made up term. I guess you could call it his personal slang.

I hate it when when people do that.

I hate it when when people do that.
I have done that, but it has been a while since the last time. Some of my personal terms were deragotory but I was in 7th grade, then. I haven't made a deragotory one in years. Sometimes I use code words. Like, I found out a 5th grader read the Twilight series, so I call her Twilight kid. That was a few months ago already I started that.

I have done that, but it has been a while since the last time. Some of my personal terms were deragotory but I was in 7th grade, then. I haven't made a deragotory one in years. Sometimes I use code words. Like, I found out a 5th grader read the Twilight series, so I call her Twilight kid. That was a few months ago already I started that.

Creative.

One type of slang I hate: Stadin slangi. It's basically Finnish and Swedish mixed together and result is gibberish which no one but it's speakers can understand.

One type of slang I hate: Stadin slangi. It's basically Finnish and Swedish mixed together and result is gibberish which no one but it's speakers can understand.

Isn't that the same as every other language?

Isn't that the same as every other language?

Even to me it's gibberish. I didn't know I couldn't speak Finnish :rolleyes:

Even to me it's gibberish. I didn't know I couldn't speak Finnish :rolleyes:

Well, apparently I can't speak my own language. :(

Well, apparently I can't speak my own language. :(

Hey, I get what you're saying so it isn't that bad.

Hey, I get what you're saying so it isn't that bad.

:fluffle:

:fluffle:

You just have a bit of defiencies in grammar, nothing that would be all that important for the ability to speak English.

You just have a bit of defiencies in grammar, nothing that would be all that important for the ability to speak English.

Spend long enough on NSG and invariably your grammar and vocabulary will improve. Shit, when I started I didn't even put a space after punctuation.

Spend long enough on NSG and invariably your grammar and vocabulary will improve. Shit, when I started I didn't even put a space after punctuation.

I couldn't spell and I didn't put capital letters. But, now I've got a decent web-browser and being on here has helped me.

Spend long enough on NSG and invariably your grammar and vocabulary will improve. Shit, when I started I didn't even put a space after punctuation.

Neither did I. Then Adunabar started to complain about it on one of my threads.
After that I started to pay attention to capitalisation and spaces after punctuation.

Also, I don't care for homie however you spell it. It sounds like gang talk or something.

And by 'gang talk', do you mean 'what I imagine people in gangs sound like after watching "Boyz N the Hood"' or do you mean 'black people'?

Sometimes I use code words. Like, I found out a 5th grader read the Twilight series, so I call her Twilight kid. That was a few months ago already I started that.

Yeah, I do that, too. Like, there's this guy I know who's Canadian, so my code name for him is "Canada" and then no one knows who I'm talking about! :rolleyes:

And by 'gang talk', do you mean 'what I imagine people in gangs sound like after watching "Boyz N the Hood"' or do you mean 'black people'?

rofllmao.

Creative.
I can be creative. Girls make up words more often than guys, I read. Did you ever know that. Well, girls talk sooner and are better with words in general. To be fair, I will say guys are better at spatial and physical things than girls. Does this make either one more likely to be bothered by slang?

[QUOTE=Ryadn;14815454]And by 'gang talk', do you mean 'what I imagine people in gangs sound like after watching "Boyz N the Hood"' or do you mean 'black people'?QUOTE]
I never watched "Boyz N the Hood", but I heard the word in a song. When I was a few years from graduation from high school, the song was popular and it has a rap or hip-hop sound to it and the first line has the word "homies" in it. As the word was in a rap/hip-hop type song, I could imagine a gangster talking that way. My bus driver at that time played a pop station most of the time, which how I heard the song. I think the title of the song is "Yeah"

"Gay" or "fag" as used in slang definitely annoy me.

"Pussy" as slang for weakness makes me laugh, just as "balls" being used as slang for strength does, because this is almost a precise reversal of reality; balls are tender, vulnerable, and extremely weak, while the pussy is one of the strongest and most resilient body parts. I used to be annoyed by this, but I've gotten to the point where I can be simply amused by the pile of sexual insecurities that are reflected in it. I also really enjoy when a dude demands to know why I'm giggling because then I get to explain to him at length how his testicles are so much weaker than a vagina.

"Gay" or "fag" as used in slang definitely annoy me.

"Pussy" as slang for weakness makes me laugh, just as "balls" being used as slang for strength does, because this is almost a precise reversal of reality; balls are tender, vulnerable, and extremely weak, while the pussy is one of the strongest and most resilient body parts. I used to be annoyed by this, but I've gotten to the point where I can be simply amused by the pile of sexual insecurities that are reflected in it. I also really enjoy when a dude demands to know why I'm giggling because then I get to explain to him at length how his testicles are so much weaker than a vagina.

People don't call other people 'balls', they don't use that word to mean that they resemble someone else's balls. They use that word because testosterone is produced in 'the balls', so supposedly if you have tiny balls you're not particularly courageous, but if you have large testosterone producing balls you're brave etc... hence "you haven't got the balls to do it" or "did you just do that? you must have balls!". Accurate or not, it's obviously not meant to mean something like "you are as strong as a bollock". Most the people I know who use that word are actually females, making fun of the supposed male characteristic of bravery.

People don't call other people 'balls', they don't use that word to mean that they resemble someone else's balls. They use that word because testosterone is produced in 'the balls', so supposedly if you have tiny balls you're not particularly courageous, but if you have large testosterone producing balls you're brave etc... hence "you haven't got the balls to do it" or "did you just do that? you must have balls!". Accurate or not, it's obviously not meant to mean something like "you are as strong as a bollock".

Yes, I knew all that. Doesn't change a thing!


Most the people I know who use that word are actually females, making fun of the supposed male characteristic of bravery.
Mmmm, anecdote-licious!

Yes, I knew all that. Doesn't change a thing!


Well it makes any point you were making about the physical structure of a testicle being vulnerable and week pretty irrelevant.

American English language?

I actually find American English to be better than British English but that is just my opinion. Why on earth would someone want to call a truck a lorry or a toilet a loo? To me, a truck is supposed to be called a truck and so on.

I actually find American English to be better than British English but that is just my opinion. Why on earth would someone want to call a truck a lorry or a toilet a loo? To me, a truck is supposed to be called a truck and so on.

:rolleyes:

You do realize there were "trucks" in England at or about the same time they were devised in the US, right? Possibly even earlier if you count what they were called before internal combustion. Honestly, that post is so chock full of arrogant ignorance, it's embarrassing. You actually come off as believing that everything was invented in the US and acquired different names across the Atlantic.

To YOU, "hello" is "hello". To an Aussie, it might be "g'day". What on Earth is your point? Different cultures produce different words for things, even if they share the same basic language.

EDIT: The point is this -- US and British English can only be "better" or "worse" than one another if the speaker is biased by location, or familiarity or being a fan of either. Which is to say that, in reality, neither CAN be "better" or "worse" than the other, objectively.

I never said the US invented everything, I only said that I prefer American English, explained why and I left it at that.

I never watched "Boyz N the Hood", but I heard the word in a song. When I was a few years from graduation from high school, the song was popular and it has a rap or hip-hop sound to it and the first line has the word "homies" in it. As the word was in a rap/hip-hop type song, I could imagine a gangster talking that way. My bus driver at that time played a pop station most of the time, which how I heard the song. I think the title of the song is "Yeah"

...

I don't even know where to start. That's... amazing.

I actually find American English to be better than British English but that is just my opinion. Why on earth would someone want to call a truck a lorry or a toilet a loo? To me, a truck is supposed to be called a truck and so on.

Why would anyone want to call a lorry a truck? A lorry is supposed to be called a lorry.

And other such arguments from nonsense.

If you're getting down to that level, you need to define what kind of American English you prefer. I mean, is an old car a hoopty, a scraper, or a beater? Do you wear sunglasses, shades or stunnas? How do you address a friend: friend, pal, bro, blood, patnah?

[QUOTE=Ryadn;14820009]...

I don't even know where to start. That's... amazing.



Wut?

To YOU, "hello" is "hello". To an Aussie, it might be "g'day".
Actually, "Hey, Mate." is more accurate. No one says G'Day without being sarcastic.

Actually, "Hey, Mate." is more accurate. No one says G'Day without being sarcastic.

To an extent but it should always be used when speaking to foreigners.

I don't like British English but for the sole reasons that it sounds too muffled, nasal, don't know how to explain. Think of the difference in pronunciation of water, between british and american, and see what I mean.

The phrases are: What's up, my Obama, Barack you and Barack's in the White House now. The meanings are hello, bless you and cool it. I did not vote for him, which is probably why I feel the way I do. It's to do with young people liking him. Also, his funny name is fun for young people to mess with.

I am glad to say that I've never heard those phrases...

untill now. :(

Wut?

The fact that your only apparent encounter with black urban US culture is a song you heard on the bus in high school?

I don't like British English but for the sole reasons that it sounds too muffled, nasal, don't know how to explain. Think of the difference in pronunciation of water, between british and american, and see what I mean.

Not sure what you mean, I pronouce Water as Walt-a, whats muffled about that?:D

The fact that your only apparent encounter with black urban US culture is a song you heard on the bus in high school?

Or that he equates such music with gangsters?

Or that he equates such music with gangsters?
mew Who ya calling he? Hope not me. I have a kitten avatar here so people won't do that. btw, I named that kitten Molly, cause that is a cute name for a cute kitten.
I don't live in a city, so of course I have little encounter with black urban culture.

Not sure what you mean, I pronouce Water as Walt-a, whats muffled about that?:DOk that was a really bad choice of words, it's hard to explain with words :)

mew Who ya calling he? Hope not me. I have a kitten avatar here so people won't do that. btw, I named that kitten Molly, cause that is a cute name for a cute kitten.
I don't live in a city, so of course I have little encounter with black urban culture.

Hmm.

Poe or 13yo. You be the judge.

mew Who ya calling he? Hope not me. I have a kitten avatar here so people won't do that. btw, I named that kitten Molly, cause that is a cute name for a cute kitten.
I don't live in a city, so of course I have little encounter with black urban culture.

I like that cat. But how does having it stop people thinking you're a guy?

I like that cat. But how does having it stop people thinking you're a guy?
Would a male have such a cute avatar? I guess my name makes it hard to tell. Do you think I am odd or crazy? Other people here have called me those things. Some people love my avatar, but someone called it a tad odd. The Parkus Empire and NNLDI think I am immature.

I guess my name makes it hard to tell. Do you think I am odd or crazy? Other people here have called me those things. Some people love my avatar, but someone called it a tad odd. The Parkus Empire and NNLDI think I am immature.
Sorry, you do seem sort of childlike.

Would a male have such a cute avatar?
Why wouldn't a male have an avatar like that?