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I have a job interview this monday (May 18), and if all goes well, I will get a conditional offer of employment. Problem is the hotel tests for drugs. I am pretty sure that it will be a urine test.

The last period in which I smoked Marijuana was from April 18 thru April 21.

I was wondering I f anyone could suggest either a poduct or a method for me to clean out THC from my body. I know that most drug tests now test for masking agents as well, so I'm looking for a removal of toxins not a mask of them.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Nixxelvania

Just say no.

That helps pass the drug test more than anything.

Do some research into how long you have to wait before THC stops showing up in your urine. If it's less than 3 weeks, then you're fine and you don't need to clean yourself out.

I have a job interview this monday (May 18), and if all goes well, I will get a conditional offer of employment. Problem is the hotel tests for drugs. I am pretty sure that it will be a urine test.

The last period in which I smoked Marijuana was from April 18 thru April 21.

I was wondering I f anyone could suggest either a poduct or a method for me to clean out THC from my body. I know that most drug tests now test for masking agents as well, so I'm looking for a removal of toxins not a mask of them.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Nixxelvania

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_testing.shtml

If it's a hair test, you're screwed. Well, if you don't shave your head. :p

I have a job interview this monday (May 18), and if all goes well, I will get a conditional offer of employment. Problem is the hotel tests for drugs. I am pretty sure that it will be a urine test.

The last period in which I smoked Marijuana was from April 18 thru April 21.

I was wondering I f anyone could suggest either a poduct or a method for me to clean out THC from my body. I know that most drug tests now test for masking agents as well, so I'm looking for a removal of toxins not a mask of them.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Nixxelvania

yep... it's called "don't use drugs at least two weeks before your drug test."

Good luck.

There are a number of products that actually do work that you can get from most headshops. Shittons of Cranberry juices works, too, apparently. Or steal someone's pee, that's your best bet. *nod* It has to be stolen, though--you can't risk someone finding out!

Get someone else's urine.

Though I do doubt their tests could detect usage a month after the fact if all they use is urine.

There are a number of products that actually do work that you can get from most headshops. Shittons of Cranberry juices works, too, apparently. Or steal someone's pee, that's your best bet. *nod* It has to be stolen, though--you can't risk someone finding out!

I hope no one ever steals my urine. I'll sue to get it back! :p

Get someone else's urine.

Though I do doubt their tests could detect usage a month after the fact if all they use is urine.

Y'know, I was curious to see what you'd say. :D

hey no need to get snipy, I literally found out about this today.

There are a number of products that actually do work that you can get from most headshops. Shittons of Cranberry juices works, too, apparently. Or steal someone's pee, that's your best bet. *nod* It has to be stolen, though--you can't risk someone finding out!

*imagines Nixxelvania sneaking into a bedroom wearing a mask and holding a thermos of warm water, a bowl, a bag and catheter...*

:D

*imagines Nixxelvania sneaking into a bedroom wearing a mask and holding a thermos of warm water, a bowl, a bag and catheter...*

:D

your lucky I dont know where you live

hey no need to get snipy, I literally found out about this today.

"Snippy".

Anyways. Fass is the main resident doctor, and, if he said you should likely be fine, you should likely be fine. Though I do have found issue with him sometimes, he never refused medical advice on NSG - a trait I do admire on him.

Want to flush something out of your system? Aloe juice.

Just... don't leave a toilet for very long afterward.

Fassitude, would you happen to know how far back an extended urinalysis can test for?

Y'know, I was curious to see what you'd say. :D

Why?

In any case, while I do not support the use/ingestion of deleterious substances like drugs/tobacco/animal products, I find mandatory drug testing unethical, so all bets are off in subverting it.

Want to flush something out of your system? Aloe juice.

Just... don't leave a toilet for very long afterward.

where can i get some?

your lucky I dont know where you live

why steal my urine, I'd be happy to provide you with some samples.

of course, you may not find Marjiuana in my system. but will you take my word that you won't find any other drugs in my system? :p

Eat carrots until you turn orange.

Fassitude, would you happen to know how far back an extended urinalysis can test for?

It all depends on the accumulation of and the clearance of the substance from the body through the kidneys. The more fat-soluble something is, the longer it will stay detectable, I gather. The more water-soluble, the faster it should be eliminated. I have no idea how long marijuana stays in the body, but I would doubt more than a couple of weeks to a month, but it could be very individual. So, just use someone else's urine (someone who is not a user, obviously), it's the safest bet.

Why?

In any case, while I do not support the use/ingestion of deleterious substances like drugs/tobacco/animal products, I find mandatory drug testing unethical, so all bets are off in subverting it.

The guy who will be interviewing me mentioned they test back a couple of months, so i think it will be an extended test.

Everyone, thanks for the input. I'm off to Wallgreens for a test kit, ill let you all know how it goes

It all depends on the accumulation of and the clearance of the substance from the body through the kidneys. The more fat-soluble something is, the longer it will stay detectable, I gather. The more water-soluble, the faster it should be eliminated. I have no idea how long marijuana stays in the body, but I would doubt more than a couple of weeks to a month, but it could be very individual.

*nods* from what I've read...

It depends on several factors. things like metabolism, how much you use (a chronic user will have THC in their system alot longer than an infrequent user, some articles state over 30 days.) and diet and activity.

The guy who will be interviewing me mentioned they test back a couple of months, so i think it will be an extended test.

So? That just means they look for more substances. Regular tests just look for cannabinoids, amphetamines, cocaine, opiates and PCP. The extended ones test for some additional variations of barbiturates, meth, benzodiazepines, mdma, ethanol etc.

More info, especially on detectability: http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_info1.shtml#duration

Why?

I figured it might be either funny to watch or interesting. :p

Everyone, thanks for the input. I'm off to Wallgreens for a test kit, ill let you all know how it goes

So...

You're gonna STUDY for your drug test?

I figured it might be either funny to watch or interesting. :p

Other than repeating my interrogative, I have no comment to that.

http://www.docpotter.com/art_drugtest_strat.html

you know what i love about drug tests? the cheap ones that most places use are worthless. utterly worthless. unless you are currently on heroin, you're pretty much in the clear. hell, the one thing they could legitimately test for - habitual marijuana use - is (or at least was - it's been a fair few years since i checked up on such things) ridiculously prone to false positives. basically, they are a test to see if you've had any legal over-the-counter painkillers in the past week.

I hope no one ever steals my urine. I'll sue to get it back! :p

There was actually some guy going around Columbus stealing kids urine, or something. More 'n a touch creepy.

There was actually some guy going around Columbus stealing kids urine, or something. More 'n a touch creepy.

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/96/96glux.phtml

I hope no one ever steals my urine. I'll sue to get it back! :p

I stole it once, but it was useless, it was full of gunpowder and bullet fragments.

I just took a home drug test and I passed. Can anyone here think of a reason that should worry me about passing the one on monday?

I just took a home drug test and I passed. Can anyone here think of a reason that should worry me about passing the one on monday?

How did you do the home drug test?

I just took a home drug test and I passed. Can anyone here think of a reason that should worry me about passing the one on monday?

Better tests than are available to private persons.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Nixxelvania
Why would/should anyone want to help you mislead your employer? In fact, if lying about this drug use is acceptable to you, what other lies will you tell them? Will you be willing to steal from them, too?

If you smoked a month ago, then you should be fine. In any case, drinking plenty of water may help.

Why would/should anyone want to help you mislead your employer? In fact, if lying about this drug use is acceptable to you, what other lies will you tell them? Will you be willing to steal from them, too?

Because it's retarded to not employ someone just because they smoked cannabis a few weeks ago.

Because it's retarded to not employ someone just because they smoked cannabis a few weeks ago.
Last time I checked, it was still illegal. It must matter to the employer, too. I don't test new hires, because I don't care and I don't want to put someone in a position where they will have to start their tenure with a lie to me. But this employer does care and they should be able to hire an honest worker.

This is the scoop on pot and drug tests. First of all unless your trying to get into the FBI, companies are going to do a real cheap test that frankly doesnt detect much so after 2 weeks your pretty much in the clear. All those gold bond teas and stuff are all bullshit. What you should do is force yourself to drink about a gallon of water. What this will do is dilute your urine sample to the point of negative. Good tests will register this as a no sample and technically ask you to redo it but crappy tests that most companies use will just consider it a negative and a pass.

Why would/should anyone want to help you mislead your employer? In fact, if lying about this drug use is acceptable to you,
Because it's a gross violation of personal rights to deny a person employment on arbitrary grounds that have nothing to do with their capability to perform the job.

They're not looking for you doing drugs on the job, or the day before the job - they're looking if you've touched MJ the last couple months.

P.S. BTW, get a haircut.

Last time I checked, it was still illegal.

So what.


It must matter to the employer, too.

So what.



*badum badum badum ba-da-dum ... deaaaa dam*

Are there any shampoo products that I can purchase that will clean thc out of my hair?

Are there any shampoo products that I can purchase that will clean thc out of my hair?

I don't think it works that way. If they're doing a hair test ( which are more expensive for them to do anyway ) then your best bet is cut it. No clue on how much, however.

Because it's a gross violation of personal rights to deny a person employment on arbitrary grounds that have nothing to do with their capability to perform the job.

They're not looking for you doing drugs on the job, or the day before the job - they're looking if you've touched MJ the last couple months.

P.S. BTW, get a haircut.
Nonsense. It's the employer's job and he can set whatever conditions he wants for employment, as long as it doesn't infringe on the federally protected categories. Furthermore, no employer wants a employee that's willing to lie to him on the very first day.

Nonsense. It's the employer's job and he can set whatever conditions he wants for employment

No, the employer cannot, and so what if it could? It doesn't make it any less unethical and scummy. Perfectly OK to be undermined, and should be as far as possible until it becomes useless to the cunts that run the type of company that would do such a thing.

Are there any shampoo products that I can purchase that will clean thc out of my hair?

Unless your trying to get a National Security clearance i wouldnt worry about it.

Companies dont really give a shit if your doing pot in your off time, they do it for PR and insurance reasons. If your average company did a hardcore test noone would have any employees. So they go thru the motions and do a bare cheap minimum effort to weed out the obvious. This is particularly true for low wage/minimum wage jobs.

Nonsense. It's the employer's job and he can set whatever conditions he wants for employment, as long as it doesn't infringe on the federally protected categories. Furthermore, no employer wants a employee that's willing to lie to him on the very first day.

PRO TIP: nobody is debating what his job is, and what his rights are.

Are there any shampoo products that I can purchase that will clean thc out of my hair?

I suggest you shave your head.

Why would/should anyone want to help you mislead your employer? In fact, if lying about this drug use is acceptable to you, what other lies will you tell them? Will you be willing to steal from them, too?

because it's like mythbusting. people put forth their methods and he tests one and see if it works! :D

Why would/should anyone want to help you mislead your employer? In fact, if lying about this drug use is acceptable to you, what other lies will you tell them? Will you be willing to steal from them, too?

Because your being forced into a false choice, having a company dictate to you what you can and cant do in your personal off time for a whopping $7.50 an hour, and eating.

It depends on how often you use it as to if it is still in your body, usually only a few weeks before it is out of your system.

IF it is only a urine test you should be fine if it is a blood test then that may be mor troublesome.

THC in marijuana is rapidly absorbed by fatty tissues in various organs. Generally, traces (metabolites) of THC can be detected by standard urine testing methods several days after a smoking session. In heavy users, however, traces can sometimes be detected for weeks after they have stopped using marijuana.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/MarijBroch/teenpg3-4.html#long

Why?

In any case, while I do not support the use/ingestion of deleterious substances like drugs/tobacco/animal products, I find mandatory drug testing unethical, so all bets are off in subverting it.

Why?

I think I'm actually with Myrmi on this one, as insane as that sounds. Misleading your employer on something like this is probably not a good idea, especially not if you're going to talk about it in an easy to find public space like this.

If I were the employer I would be perfectly understanding about the tiny amount last month, and all I'd care about is whether it is habitual and constant or not. (And if it's not, then it's no biggie.)

Of course I realize the vast majority of employers would not be so easy going, but it still doesn't feel right to me to lie to an employer like that.

Because your being forced into a false choice, having a company dictate to you what you can and cant do in your personal off time for a whopping $7.50 an hour, and eating.

And what if the job requires mental and physical concentration to levels that would be unachievable if one were using marijuana regularly?

I agree that there is some level of unethicalness involved in mandatory drug testing but it's not as if it's done with no point whatsoever.

And really, it's just about drugs anyway. Considering that most people would probably be better off not using them in any event, I'd call it a favor.

Why?

Privacy.

Privacy.

What if it interferes with your job function and has the potential to harm other people?

I have a job interview this monday (May 18), and if all goes well, I will get a conditional offer of employment. Problem is the hotel tests for drugs. I am pretty sure that it will be a urine test.

The last period in which I smoked Marijuana was from April 18 thru April 21.

I was wondering I f anyone could suggest either a poduct or a method for me to clean out THC from my body. I know that most drug tests now test for masking agents as well, so I'm looking for a removal of toxins not a mask of them.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Nixxelvania

You should try prayer.

I hope no one ever steals my urine. I'll sue to get it back! :p

This give me an idea!

*goes into bathroom*

Urine here! Get your Urine! Guaranteed to pass a drug test!

$10 a sample! Greatest bargain in town! 100% Satisfaction Guaranteed!

Urine here! Get your Urine!...

I have a job interview this monday (May 18), and if all goes well, I will get a conditional offer of employment. Problem is the hotel tests for drugs. I am pretty sure that it will be a urine test.

The last period in which I smoked Marijuana was from April 18 thru April 21.

I was wondering I f anyone could suggest either a poduct or a method for me to clean out THC from my body. I know that most drug tests now test for masking agents as well, so I'm looking for a removal of toxins not a mask of them.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Nixxelvania

Be careful. Maybe they are looking after people that are taking drugs :)

I think I'm actually with Myrmi on this one, as insane as that sounds. Misleading your employer on something like this is probably not a good idea, especially not if you're going to talk about it in an easy to find public space like this.

If I were the employer I would be perfectly understanding about the tiny amount last month, and all I'd care about is whether it is habitual and constant or not. (And if it's not, then it's no biggie.)

Of course I realize the vast majority of employers would not be so easy going, but it still doesn't feel right to me to lie to an employer like that.

Why care in this case? As long as they aren't getting high on the job, what does it matter to you?

And what if the job requires mental and physical concentration to levels that would be unachievable if one were using marijuana regularly?

I agree that there is some level of unethicalness involved in mandatory drug testing but it's not as if it's done with no point whatsoever.

And really, it's just about drugs anyway. Considering that most people would probably be better off not using them in any event, I'd call it a favor.

So should we test to see if employees have had a big mac recently? After all, it'd be doing them a favor, because those are horrible for you.

What if it interferes with your job function and has the potential to harm other people?

Personal accountability.

Personal accountability.

Yeah so when another person is killed because of personal accountability that's alright.

Or maybe employers have a responsibility to ensure the safety of its employees.

I have a job interview this monday (May 18), and if all goes well, I will get a conditional offer of employment. Problem is the hotel tests for drugs. I am pretty sure that it will be a urine test.

The last period in which I smoked Marijuana was from April 18 thru April 21.

I was wondering I f anyone could suggest either a poduct or a method for me to clean out THC from my body. I know that most drug tests now test for masking agents as well, so I'm looking for a removal of toxins not a mask of them.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Nixxelvania

If you go into the rest room alone, then gargle with your urine before spitting it into the cup. Saliva will break down the trace amounts of drugs and it will test clean.

I've never tried it and nobody ever suggested it to me but that doesn't mean it won't work. It's kind of like a tiger repellant. :)

Yeah so when another person is killed because of personal accountability that's alright.

Or maybe employers have a responsibility to ensure the safety of its employees.

What danger am i exposing to any other workers if i smoked pot 3 weeks ago on my time off?

If you go into the rest room alone, then garble with your urine before spitting it into the cup. Saliva will break down the trace amounts of drugs and it will test clean.

I've never tried it and nobody ever suggested it to me but that doesn't mean it won't work. It's kind of like a tiger repellant. :)

I heard doing that will also prevent polar bear attacks.

What danger am i exposing to any other workers if i smoked pot 3 weeks ago on my time off?

Since you'd obviously be a drug addict, you'll probably steal stuff, and are clearly more likely to put cutstomers at risk.

Yeah so when another person is killed because of personal accountability that's alright.

Because drug use during leisure time would cause that, and drug testing prevent it. Riiight.

I heard doing that will also prevent polar bear attacks.

I'd sure keep my distance. ;)

Since you'd obviously be a drug addict, you'll probably steal stuff, and are clearly more likely to put cutstomers at risk.

Too true. Two days ago, I smoked some pot.

Today at work, I stole a user's computer to pay for more drugs and also almost pushed one out of a window because I was still really high from the hits I took that day.

What if it interferes with your job function and has the potential to harm other people?

I can't help but feel that it would pretty obvious is your mental faculties were unable to live up to whatever the task at hand was.

Because drug use during leisure time would cause that, and drug testing prevent it. Riiight.

Umm yeah dude if I went into work doped up and was unable to make some proper judgements on various things such as distance and might just run my front end loader over someone. NOooooo that wouldn't hurt them at all right?

As for drug testing preventing it maybe not it depends on how well someone values teir job or not wouldn't you say?

What danger am i exposing to any other workers if i smoked pot 3 weeks ago on my time off?

Depends on how it is still affecting your system, besides we said drug testing not just testing for THC.

OP: Its very simple. Don't use drugs.

here
http://www.thealsshop.com/new.html

OP: That's four weeks. From what I've heard here at Happy Appy, that's generally enough unless you're in the process of losing weight at the time you take the test, and usually enough period.

If you're worried, go through a lot of fluids and electrolytes, and then eat up the day before/of.

I wonder what the legal ramifications are, for giving people advice on how to cheat drug tests.

I wonder what the legal ramifications are, for giving people advice on how to cheat drug tests.

no true scotsman would give advice on cheating drug test.

no true scotsman would give advice on cheating drug test.

but my cousin angus is always giving such advice...

but my cousin angus is always giving such advice...

but no true scotsman has not given any such advice in this thread.

Use a blocker.

Use a blocker.

The fake penis works better.

I have a job interview this monday (May 18), and if all goes well, I will get a conditional offer of employment. Problem is the hotel tests for drugs. I am pretty sure that it will be a urine test.

The last period in which I smoked Marijuana was from April 18 thru April 21.

I was wondering I f anyone could suggest either a poduct or a method for me to clean out THC from my body. I know that most drug tests now test for masking agents as well, so I'm looking for a removal of toxins not a mask of them.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Nixxelvania

Stop smoking pot, best way in the world to pass drug tests.

Since apparently that isn't a valid option for this one, drink vinegar.

Atleast it's only a urine test.

Stop smoking pot, best way in the world to pass drug tests.

Since apparently that isn't a valid option for this one, drink vinegar.

Unless hes going to immediately follow it with a nice salad, this is useless.

I have a job interview this monday (May 18), and if all goes well, I will get a conditional offer of employment. Problem is the hotel tests for drugs. I am pretty sure that it will be a urine test.

The last period in which I smoked Marijuana was from April 18 thru April 21.

I was wondering I f anyone could suggest either a poduct or a method for me to clean out THC from my body. I know that most drug tests now test for masking agents as well, so I'm looking for a removal of toxins not a mask of them.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Nixxelvania

Your personal THC levels will be dependent upon three main factors.

1. Frequency of use: If you only smoke marijuana every month or so, the THC will be out of your system in a few days. If you smoke every day, it can take more than a month.

2. Body composition: Being fat soluble, a person with a high % of body fat can expect trace amounts of THC to remain in their system for longer than someone with a minimal % of body fat.

3. Physical activity: Being fat soluble, the best way to remove THC from the body is to "sweat" it out...overdoing it on fluid intake is largely ineffective, since THC is not water soluble.

...high amounts of vitamin C and/or niacin can help in the short term, but it sounds to me like you are in the clear, unless you were smoking three bong-loads a day all through March.

I just took a home drug test and I passed. Can anyone here think of a reason that should worry me about passing the one on monday?

You can relax...no hotel is going to spring for a more expensive test than the one you just took and passed.

OP: That's four weeks. From what I've heard here at Happy Appy, that's generally enough unless you're in the process of losing weight at the time you take the test, and usually enough period.

If you're worried, go through a lot of fluids and electrolytes, and then eat up the day before/of.

Just make sure you're not well hydrated the day of.......colorless urine freaks them out.

I had a drug test and didn't have anything to worry about but I keep myself well hydrated and since I do they assumed that I was trying to subvert the test and made me retake it twice.......

it's all bullshit.

I second the "getting someone else's urine" route.......that is if you have any friends who aren't potheads.

use blood instead of fake urine and really freak them out

The last period in which I smoked Marijuana was from April 18 thru April 21.

It probably will have passed from your system by Monday.

I second the "getting someone else's urine" route.......that is if you have any friends who aren't potheads.

the wizzanator comes with powdered urine.

PRO TIP: nobody is debating what his job is, and what his rights are.

Maybe not, but the real tip should be not to do unethical things -- like lie to one's employer.

the wizzanator comes with powdered urine.

"just add pee" :D

Maybe not, but the real tip should be not to do unethical things -- like lie to one's employer.

Well perhaps if the employer were to not ask about things he shouldn't have any business asking then he wouldn't have to lie to him.

Well perhaps if the employer were to not ask about things he shouldn't have any business asking then he wouldn't have to lie to him.

agreed. after all, they shouldn't have to ask if the applicant was convicted of any felony, nor should they have to ask if the applicant is in the military... nor should they have to ask for references. :rolleyes:

Well perhaps if the employer were to not ask about things he shouldn't have any business asking then he wouldn't have to lie to him.
How do we know what the employer's motivation is? Regardless, it is his job and he gets to set the conditions for employment.

If the employer wants to know about drinking habits -- that's his privilege as an employer.

How do we know what the employer's motivation is? Regardless, it is his job and he gets to set the conditions for employment.

If the employer wants to know about drinking habits -- that's his privilege as an employer.

and its my privileged to tell him I am a grape juice baptist and don't drink a drop, because it is none of his business.

and its my privileged to tell him I am a grape juice baptist and don't drink a drop, because it is none of his business.

that's true. however, should your employer find out you lied about being a non drinker...

he'll start to wonder what else you lied about.

that's true. however, should your employer find out you lied about being a non drinker...

he'll start to wonder what else you lied about.

About not leaving that bag of flaming poo on his door step ?

If the employer wants to know about drinking habits -- that's his privilege as an employer.

I'm a freelance translator, and no one ever asks these things in my profession.

I also don't drink, don't smoke, and don't do drugs.

So, I guess... :p

and its my privileged to tell him I am a grape juice baptist and don't drink a drop, because it is none of his business.
I wouldn't be too surprised to find myself fired, were that not true.

I wouldn't be too surprised to find myself fired, were that not true.

Then I sue for first amendment violations.
My religious interpretation of what Baptist and Grape juice means needs to be protected.

Then I sue for first amendment violations.
My religious interpretation of what Baptist and Grape juice means needs to be protected.

Your lawyers would be of the Art & Goofball firm?

About not leaving that bag of flaming poo on his door step ?

SO IT WAS YOU!!! and here I was... blaming the evil monkey in my closet. :tongue:

Maybe not, but the real tip should be not to do unethical things -- like lie to one's employer.

if lying is ever just, lying to one's employer in these sorts of cases certainly fits the bill. the 'question' itself is illegitimate.

SO IT WAS YOU!!! and here I was... blaming the evil monkey in my closet. :tongue:

What I can't be both?

Unless hes going to immediately follow it with a nice salad, this is useless.

Except I've done it so I know from personal experience that it does indeed work. Also as a note the time I did it I had smoked several joints the day before the test.

Shit, I figured it was out of urine pretty damn quickly after use.

Except I've done it so I know from personal experience that it does indeed work. Also as a note the time I did it I had smoked several joints the day before the test.

From NORML "contrary to popular rumor, there is NO evidence that goldenseal, vinegar, niacin, or vitamin C help."

And if anyone knows about drug tests its them.

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4934

Is there a urine test to discover someone's true political beliefs? If I ever own a company, it will be important to me to only hire people with the same political beliefs as me. Also, can I look while they pee? I need to make sure that their junk is up to my high standards.