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Polish priest publishes sex guide

A Polish Catholic priest has published a book which provides married couples with a theological and practical guide to spicing up their sex lives.

In his book, Sex as you don't know it: for married couples who love God, Father Ksawery Knotz aims to sweep away the strait-laced attitudes many hold.

Sex in marriage, the Franciscan friar explains, should not be boring but "saucy, surprising and fantasy packed".

The book, which has the backing of the Polish Catholic Church, has been a hit.

The Sw. Pawel publishing house has ordered a reprint after Poles snapped up the first 5,000 copies within weeks of them going on sale.

'Sought-after caresses'

In the book that has been dubbed the "Catholic Kama Sutra", Father Knotz goes into graphic detail about a subject many in the Church consider taboo.

“ Some people [think married sex] has to be sad like a traditional church hymn ”
Father Ksawery Knotz

"Some people, when they hear about the holiness of married sex, immediately imagine that such sex has to be deprived of joy, frivolous play, fantasy and attractive positions," he writes.

"[They think] it has to be sad like a traditional church hymn.

"Every act - a type of caress, a sexual position - with the goal of arousal is permitted and pleases God. During sexual intercourse, married couples can show their love in every way, can offer one another the most sought-after caresses."

Father Knotz believes sex is an important way for a husband and wife to express their love and grow closer to God.

"Married couples celebrate their sacrament, their life with Christ also during sex," he writes.

"Calling sex a celebration of the marriage sacrament raises its dignity in an exceptional way. Such a statement shocks people who learned to look at sexuality in a bad way. It is difficult for them to understand that God is also interested in their happy sex life and in this way gives them his gift."

But Father Knotz stresses the book does not differ from the Church's view on sex. He discourages the use of contraceptives, saying they "lead a married couple outside of Catholic culture and into a completely different lifestyle".

He also dismisses those that have questioned the competency of a celibate monk to write about sex, saying his experience comes from counselling married couples and from running a website giving sexual advice for almost a year.

Sourcey Little Minx (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8049853.stm)

A Catholic Priest who is open about sex and celebrates it? And not with altar boys? (I'm sorry. The joke was there)

Hooray! If only more religious leaders were like this. Perhaps then religion wouldn't seem so restrictive and controlling.

I will be the first to say:

What would a catholic priest know about sex?

I will be the first to say:

What would a catholic priest know about sex...

...other than with small boys.

...other than with small boys.

Well, that goes without saying.

...other than with small boys.

Boo....

Too obvious.

I will be the first to say:

What would a catholic priest know about sex?

why do you think they need a book published telling them how?

Well, that goes without saying.

Obviously, but I thought I'd add some clarity.

I will be the first to say:

What would a catholic priest know about sex?

Anything he's read/studied about it?

I don't particularly think you have to experience things to know about them.

Anything he's read/studied about it?

I don't particularly think you have to experience things to know about them.

Well, see I see it like this:

I learned to fly from a guy who was a commercial instrument rated pilot and a flight instructor.

I wouldn't want to learn how to fly from a guy who read about it a lot.

Though I fundamentally disagree with the church on just about everything, the individual actions and choice of this priest show that they aren't all stuck in a singular way of thinking. It's refreshing to read about a religious figure talking about celebrating sex, even if in the confinement of matrimony.

I will be the first to say:

What would a catholic priest know about sex?

...other than with small boys.

Well, that goes without saying.

The ones who do are officially stripped of duty by the Church.

:p

Just think of all the sexual misadventures a catholic priest hears about in confession. They probably know more about sex than Dr Ruth.

I bet they fap in there. :p

Well, see I see it like this:

I learned to fly from a guy who was a commercial instrument rated pilot and a flight instructor.

I wouldn't want to learn how to fly from a guy who read about it a lot.

I know a guy who learned to swim by watching a DVD. Didn't even get to practice until he was in the middle of a triathlon. His team placed, he didn't drown.

You'd be surprised what you can learn in non-conventional ways.

The ones who do are officially stripped of duty by the Church.

:p

No, those are the ones that get caught.

No, those are the ones that get caught.

Caught with adult women, that is.

Just think of all the sexual misadventures a catholic priest hears about in confession. They probably know more about sex than Dr Ruth.

I bet they fap in there. :p

"Oh father. I have sinned. I let my husband stick his...you know...private part in my bum. And the worst thing? I enjoyed it."

fapfapfapfap

"My child. Say 10 Hail Mary's and all shall be forgiven. You don't happen to have a tissue do you?"

I know a guy who learned to swim by watching a DVD. Didn't even get to practice until he was in the middle of a triathlon. His team placed, he didn't drown.

You'd be surprised what you can learn in non-conventional ways.

true... but if learning about sex... I can't see anyone skipping practice... :D

Anything he's read/studied about it?

I don't particularly think you have to experience things to know about them.

Not to mention that they don't have to live by their vows until, y'know, they actually take their vows. There are certainly priests who got their freak on before they became priests. :p

"Oh father. I have sinned. I let my husband stick his...you know...private part in my bum. And the worst thing? I enjoyed it."

fapfapfapfap

"My child. Say 10 Hail Mary's and all shall be forgiven. You don't happen to have a tissue do you?"

"..then I had a three-way with two girls from work..."

"What were they wearing?"

true... but if learning about sex... I can't see anyone skipping practice... :D

Only if they don't have access.

I like how he described sex as a gift of god.

"..then I had a three-way with two girls from work..."

"What were they wearing?"

"Why is that important?"

"Because...it allows me to work out just how sinful you were..."

Thanks, you just found me the perfect wedding gift for my Polish Catholic brother and SIL.

What about calling the book the "Index Positiorum Sexorum"?

What about calling the book the "Index Positiorum Sexorum"?

Oh, and I said a bad joke, huh? :rolleyes:

What about calling the book the "Index Positiorum Sexorum"?

sounds too Harry Potter-ish.

how about the Catholic Sex Bible.

nice... simple... and won't confuse those Bible Literalists.

sounds too Harry Potter-ish.

how about the Catholic Sex Bible.

nice... simple... and won't confuse those Bible Literalists.

Anything confuses them.

Anything confuses them.

true dat...

"God Approved Sex Posistions"?

true dat...

"God Approved Sex Posistions"?

Is there such a thing?

Is there such a thing?

I'm pretty sure they'll say sandwiched between two men is not "God approved".

I'm pretty sure they'll say sandwiched between two men is not "God approved".

Especially for me.

I'm sorry, when I saw this topic my mind replied "jewish pork cookbook" :p

Seriously, though, they need more priests like that polish guy and less like that Ratzinger fellow.

First, there's no reason to assume this Polish guy is a virgin. He could very well have had a full and varied sex life before he decided to give it up for god (so to speak).

Second, he's not the first Catholic cleric to publish a sexy book. Novelist and priest Andrew M. Greeley is famous for his racy sex scenes, and also for being a critic of a lot of the church's attitude about sexuality.

http://www.agreeley.com/previews.html

Rather than just being a chance to make fun of Catholic clergy by painting them all as pedophiles, I see this story as a good reminder that the bizarre and negative views officially espoused by the church leadership are a bunch of crap, and you don't have to think that way to be a spiritual leader in the Catholic church. They could lighten up completely about sex if they wanted to and not lose their religious identity.

I wouldn't want to learn how to fly from a guy who read about it a lot.

I could teach you, I know a shit ton about it. I'm like on level 70 on flight simulator 2008. I could out fly anyone, honest, in fact I'm pretty sure flight simulator is harder than flight in rl. :p

I like how he described sex as a gift of god.
You're just setting your fiancee up for a great quote that'll be sigged around NSG ain't ya? :p

First, there's no reason to assume this Polish guy is a virgin. He could very well have had a full and varied sex life before he decided to give it up for god (so to speak).

Indeed -- several popes had children before becoming priests, and one is actually the father (nonscandalously!) of another pope.

sounds too Harry Potter-ish.

how about the Catholic Sex Bible.

nice... simple... and won't confuse those Bible Literalists.

Would be funny to see people arguing over what is written in the sex bible. And having sex exactly as it says while others take an interpretive approach.


I can imagine in 2000 years time people will be saying no no the reverse cowgirl shouldn't be done like that anymore it is just wrong, I don't care what it says in the sex bible that was written for those times.

Indeed -- several popes had children before becoming priests, and one is actually the father (nonscandalously!) of another pope.

Which popes are these?

And Mur, very good point.

Would be funny to see people arguing over what is written in the sex bible. And having sex exactly as it says while others take an interpretive approach.


I can imagine in 2000 years time people will be saying no no the reverse cowgirl shouldn't be done like that anymore it is just wrong, I don't care what it says in the sex bible that was written for those times.

"no. this passage about inserting a member into the wife's posterier opening does not mean a member of the church!"

"yes it does. why else does it use the word member and not Rod!"

Which popes are these?

And Mur, very good point.

These were married before priesthood:
Pope Peter
Pope Hormisdas (father of pope Silverius)
Pope Adrian II
Pope John XVII
Pope Clement IV
Pope Honorius IV

These had an illegitimate child before beocming a priest:
Pope Pius II
Pope Innocent VIII
Pope Clement VII
Pope Gregory XIII

These had sex while priest, despite the oath not to:
Pope Julius II
Pope Paul III
Pope Pius IV

These had sex while pope, despite the oath not to:
Pope Sergius III
Pope John XII
Pope Benedict IX
Pope Alexander VI (father of Pope Paul III)

These were married before priesthood:
Pope Peter
Pope Hormisdas (father of pope Silverius)
Pope Adrian II
Pope John XVII
Pope Clement IV
Pope Honorius IV

These had an illegitimate child before beocming a priest:
Pope Pius II
Pope Innocent VIII
Pope Clement VII
Pope Gregory XIII

These had sex while priest, despite the oath not to:
Pope Julius II
Pope Paul III
Pope Pius IV

These had sex while pope, despite the oath not to:
Pope Sergius III
Pope John XII
Pope Benedict IX
Pope Alexander VI (father of Pope Paul III)

Wasn't Pope Alexander VI the father of Lucrezia Borgia?

These were married before priesthood:
Pope Peter
Pope Hormisdas (father of pope Silverius)
Pope Adrian II
Pope John XVII
Pope Clement IV
Pope Honorius IV

These had an illegitimate child before beocming a priest:
Pope Pius II
Pope Innocent VIII
Pope Clement VII
Pope Gregory XIII

These had sex while priest, despite the oath not to:
Pope Julius II
Pope Paul III
Pope Pius IV

These had sex while pope, despite the oath not to:
Pope Sergius III
Pope John XII
Pope Benedict IX
Pope Alexander VI (father of Pope Paul III)

Source?

Anything he's read/studied about it?

I don't particularly think you have to experience things to know about them.

But then why would people want to read what he's just copying from other people?
:confused:

Source?

I saw it in a "Popes Gone Wild" video. :)

A Catholic Priest who is open about sex and celebrates it? And not with altar boys? (I'm sorry. The joke was there)

Hooray! If only more religious leaders were like this. Perhaps then religion wouldn't seem so restrictive and controlling.
If only they can translate it... :)

Source?

Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexually_active_popes)!

They have a page on wiki about that!? rofl.

They have a page on wiki about that!? rofl.

Strangely, not surprising.

I'm pretty sure they'll say sandwiched between two men is not "God approved".

Its not gay unless the balls touch.

Its not gay unless the balls touch.

Oops.

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