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What gets me is how retarded the internet is being. Fans? Of a convicted criminal? Fuck you star wars kid, this guy's on meth!

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What gets me is how retarded the internet is being. Fans? Of a convicted criminal? Fuck you star wars kid, this guy's on meth!

People aren't fans of criminals or good guys. People are fans of style, of entertainment, of "an interesting story". This guy - scum that he is - gives them such things. If it were a cop making entertaining light of criminals he caught, people would also react that way - and the cop wouldn't be half as likely to steal stuff from the people who enjoyed him onYouTube.

Natural Born Killers anyone?

Natural Born Killers anyone?

No thanks. I prefer good movies.

You need to clarify things -- after all, I (and likely most NSGers) highly admire someone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_gandhi) who spent two years in jail.

You need to clarify things -- after all, I (and likely most NSGers) highly admire someone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_gandhi) who spent two years in jail.

I'm fairly certain no clarification is needed. Ghandi didn't steal cars to pay for his meth.

I'm fairly certain no clarification is needed. Ghandi didn't steal cars to pay for his meth.

What did he steal cars for? o_O

Or, what did he pay for his meth with? :p

What did he steal cars for? o_O

Paying for the little girls.

Paying for the little girls.

That bastard.

Paying for the little girls.

"How much for the little girl? How much for the women?"

"What?"

"Your women. I want to buy your women. The little girl, your daughters... sell them to me. Sell me your children."

People aren't fans of criminals or good guys. People are fans of style, of entertainment, of "an interesting story". This guy - scum that he is - gives them such things. If it were a cop making entertaining light of criminals he caught, people would also react that way - and the cop wouldn't be half as likely to steal stuff from the people who enjoyed him onYouTube.

which is frightening... when you think about stories like "The Running Man" and 13: "Game of Death" could actually come true.

I want to ship this guy some guns. See what he can do on equal standing with the police.

Natural Born Killers anyone?

Don't forget it all started with Network.

I want to ship this guy some guns. See what he can do on equal standing with the police.

Bad idea: right now, the police are just annoyed. Give him weapons and the police will get scared for public and their own safety. And that means calling in Swat.

No thanks. I prefer good movies.

Nanatsu here:

I must ask... you have a Spanish line on your signature. Why, Inta-sama?

Nanatsu here:

I must ask... you have a Spanish line on your signature. Why, Inta-sama?

This whole people on different SNs thing is confusing. How am I supposed to know who to make fun of?

Nanatsu here:

I must ask... you have a Spanish line on your signature. Why, Inta-sama?

A HA! we now know the truth! you are actually Galloism's keeper! I KNEW IT, I KNEW IT... :D

A HA! we now know the truth! you are actually Galloism's keeper! I KNEW IT, I KNEW IT... :D

Nanatsu:

Me? I think the Keeper would find objection to that. I am the one kept, not the other way around. Sometimes... well... the lines blur, but... *comes close and whispers* I pwn his bum. But don't tell him that. He's around and his ego is the size of the US and Spain combined. *nod*


Rhyno- The beauty of this is that you can make fun of both of us. We'll lash back in tandem, making it even funner.:wink:

Natural Born Killers anyone?

No thanks. I prefer good movies.

White Heat?

Nanatsu:

Rhyno- The beauty of this is that you can make fun of both of us. We'll lash back in tandem, making it even funner.:wink:

You're both ugly and I've screwed both of your hot mothers. At the same time.

You're both ugly and I've screwed both of your hot mothers. At the same time.

Oh yeah? OH YEAH? YO MOMMA IS SO*Gets shot*

Oh yeah? OH YEAH? YO MOMMA IS SO*Gets shot*

WFT is up with you and getting shot, Heikoku? You must have more holes in you than a fucking pin cushion.

Bad idea: right now, the police are just annoyed. Give him weapons and the police will get scared for public and their own safety. And that means calling in Swat.
According to the article, he has weapons.

Bad idea: right now, the police are just annoyed. Give him weapons and the police will get scared for public and their own safety. And that means calling in Swat.

Your right I better give him body armour and automatic weapons.
Want him to be on equal footing with the swat team.

Your right I better give him body armour and automatic weapons.
Want him to be on equal footing with the swat team.

That will just piss the swat team off. If you give him everything swat has, like armoured cars and whatnot, they'll call the army and shoot at him with tanks. And if you escalate it any higher than that I imagine they'll call out the F-22s, and good luck stopping an F-22.

That will just piss the swat team off. If you give him everything swat has, like armoured cars and whatnot, they'll call the army and shoot at him with tanks. And if you escalate it any higher than that I imagine they'll call out the F-22s, and good luck stopping an F-22.

1st F-22 is for shooting other aircraft.
2nd the F-22 is a US jet fighter only.

1st F-22 is for shooting other aircraft.

The Lockheed Martin/Boeing F-22 Raptor is a fifth-generation fighter aircraft that uses stealth technology. It is primarily an air superiority fighter, but has multiple capabilities that include ground attack, electronic warfare, and signals intelligence roles.

2nd the F-22 is a US jet fighter only.

Still the best jet in existence. And my favorite, regardless of what country uses it.

Your right I better give him body armour and automatic weapons.
Want him to be on equal footing with the swat team.

you want him and the SWAT to be on equal footing?

then remove those silly laws, regulations and procedures the SWAT have to work under.

then all things will be equal.

Still the best jet in existence. And my favorite, regardless of what country uses it.

The ground attack abilities are limited.
And these abilities are really little more then you replace the missile with a bomb.
The F-22's stealth feature is less effective against ground radar.

The ground attack abilities are limited.
And these abilities are really little more then you replace the missile with a bomb.
The F-22's stealth feature is less effective against ground radar.

F-22 v a tank. F-22 wins. Saying an F-22's ground attack capabilities are limited is like saying that an M1A1 tank's anti-personnel capabilities are limited. Yes, an M1's focus is to kill other tanks, but if it's you with a shotgun against the M1, the M1 is going to win.

F-22 v a tank. F-22 wins. Saying an F-22's ground attack capabilities are limited is like saying that an M1A1 tank's anti-personnel capabilities are limited. Yes, an M1's focus is to kill other tanks, but if it's you with a shotgun against the M1, the M1 is going to win.

but there are planes which perform bombing runs more effectively.
With less need to fly back and reload.

but there are planes which perform bombing runs more effectively.
With less need to fly back and reload.

It doesn't need to reload. It's hypothetically one tank. One bomb is all it takes, and that one isn't going to miss. And an F22 is harder to shoot down.

It doesn't need to reload. It's hypothetically one tank. One bomb is all it takes, and that one isn't going to miss. And an F22 is harder to shoot down.

Yea, but a carpet bombing by a B-52 is just so much cooler.

Yea, but a carpet bombing by a B-52 is just so much cooler.

But if the guy is still roaming around urban areas, carpet bombing won't work out too well.

But if the guy is still roaming around urban areas, carpet bombing won't work out too well.

Meh, we need to curl tail the population growth anyways.

Meh, we need to curl tail the population growth anyways.

Aargh, what an evil typo!

I'm never going to be able to take any world leader seriously again. When I should be nodding sagely at calls to curtail nuclear proliferation or sex trafficking, I'll be thinking of curly little piglet tails instead.

And that's your fault. :mad:

Meth is a hell of a drug...

Aargh, what an evil typo!

I'm never going to be able to take any world leader seriously again. When I should be nodding sagely at calls to curtail nuclear proliferation or sex trafficking, I'll be thinking of curly little piglet tails instead.

And that's your fault. :mad:

My work is done. :D

It doesn't need to reload. It's hypothetically one tank. One bomb is all it takes, and that one isn't going to miss. And an F22 is harder to shoot down.

If the enemy only has but one bomb target I doubt we need to deploy more then the Civil air patrol to defeat them.

There will awlays be more targets.
the A-10 thunderbolt or the F-16 fighting falcon performs better in those roles.

The F-22 is not invincible, ground based radar that operates on lower frequencies can pick it up and detect it.
Its main purpose is for taking out other aircraft, which is why it has not been deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan there are no aircraft to take out..

Meth is a hell of a drug...

I've taken it, and I may take it again. For me it's a "birthday" drug -- once a year is no problem. Once a month, or even a once a week, wouldn't be crazy.

I don't actually like it much, though. So I guess it isn't a threat to my self-control.

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My work is done. :D

You're evil! And your pentagram is upside-down.

I've taken it, and I may take it again. For me it's a "birthday" drug -- once a year is no problem. Once a month, or even a once a week, wouldn't be crazy.

I don't actually like it much, though. So I guess it isn't a threat to my self-control.

That's how most things work. While I would never, ever advocate using any addictive drug due to the fact that not everyone will have that level of self control, if you can use it in moderation, by all means go for it. Personally, I'd say you're taking risks if you use it more than once a month, but again that hinges a lot on your physiology more than anything...some people will get hooked a lot more easily than others, and some people have a greater ability to recover from its effects.

If the enemy only has but one bomb target I doubt we need to deploy more then the Civil air patrol to defeat them.

There will awlays be more targets.
the A-10 thunderbolt or the F-16 fighting falcon performs better in those roles.

The F-22 is not invincible, ground based radar that operates on lower frequencies can pick it up and detect it.
Its main purpose is for taking out other aircraft, which is why it has not been deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan there are no aircraft to take out..

Not invincible and not its main purpose, but it's more than capable of handling the hypothetical situation given.

Not invincible and not its main purpose, but it's more than capable of handling the hypothetical situation given.

But does so less effectively then an aircraft designed for that purpose.
A tactical bomber/ ground attack aircraft could take out upwards of a dozen tanks per sortie, where as an F-22 is limited to two targets per sortie.
Resulting in more return runs to the carrier to re arm.
Costing more fuel, and increasing the number of aircraft needed on hand to deal with ground forces.

the A-10 thunderbolt or the F-16 fighting falcon performs better in those roles.

Um ... both of you are aware that the NZDF don't even have fighter jets? Or tanks?

Their air combat capability is non-existent, and their armour is roughly equivalent to the Stryker.

Nonetheless, I think they have what it takes to apprehend Billy.

Um ... both of you are aware that the NZDF don't even have fighter jets? Or tanks?

Their air combat capability is non-existent, and their armour is roughly equivalent to the Stryker.

Nonetheless, I think they have what it takes to apprehend Billy.

until we give Billy a tank and some training.

You're evil! And your pentagram is upside-down.

I pity the fool who don't know the difference between a Pentagram and Pentacle! (http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_pent.htm)

I pity the fool who don't know the difference between a Pentagram and Pentacle! (http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_pent.htm)

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I pity the foo!

People are fans of the story and how entertaining it is. The people that are actually fans of him are either anarchists or 13 year old kids pissed off at mommy and daddy and want to 'stick it to the man'.

until we give Billy a tank and some training.

And get him off meth.

Though at this point you may as well just get two SWAT teams to fight it out for all the difference it makes.

People are fans of the story and how entertaining it is. The people that are actually fans of him are either anarchists or 13 year old kids pissed off at mommy and daddy and want to 'stick it to the man'.

Until someone decides to defend their property and gets bludgeoned to death or shot by Billy. Then you see the fans howl for his blood. It's all fun and games until someone dies, or maybe crippled for life.

Until someone decides to defend their property and gets bludgeoned to death or shot by Billy. Then you see the fans howl for his blood. It's all fun and games until someone dies, or maybe crippled for life.

The Anarchists and 13 year olds will still love him.

And get him off meth.

Though at this point you may as well just get two SWAT teams to fight it out for all the difference it makes.

meth ehads can learn a lot. it is what makes em so dangerous.

The Anarchists and 13 year olds will still love him.

Maybe, maybe not. We have a long running problem with snatch thieves here. At first, they were mostly viewed as a nuisance, with some among the younger crowd thinking it was cool. Then people started dying. Pushed off bikes, or right into oncoming traffic. That sort of thing.

That pretty much turned just about every person against them. Snatch thefts still go on, but the few times that they get caught by the public, they're usually unrecognizable by the time they get into police custody.

It's not that difficult to turn fans into a lynch mob.

It's not that difficult to turn fans into a lynch mob.

I already knew that; I've watched a John Wayne Movie before.

meth ehads can learn a lot. it is what makes em so dangerous.

Meth heads can also try to have a shoot out with a SWAT team while strung out on meth.

Meth heads can also try to have a shoot out with a SWAT team while strung out on meth.

they can often take a lot more rounds to drop if they are tweaking when it comes for the shoot out.
even large caliber rounds might only knock them down and they will still shoot from the ground.

they can often take a lot more rounds to drop if they are tweaking when it comes for the shoot out.
even large caliber rounds might only knock them down and they will still shoot from the ground.

No amount of resistance to pain will let you function without a brain or with a perforated heart.

I pity the fool who don't know the difference between a Pentagram and Pentacle! (http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_pent.htm)

That link appears to use the terms interchangeably. The heading "inverted Pentacle/Pentagram" is accompanied by a graphic just like your avatar but inverted, and under that heading it says this:
Some religious and spiritual groups have used the inverted pentacle.

During the 20th century, Satanists inverted the upright pentacle and adopted it as their own symbol. However, the symbol is most commonly shown with the head of a goat within the pentagram as shown below.

That was the sense I used it in, not being very interested in such superstitious nonsense but having run across a few half-arsed Satanists in my mis-spent youth. I think I might even have bought a book by Aleistar Crowley, though I found it about as interesting as a plumbing supplies catalogue.

If you wish to help me overcome my foolish ignorance of the distinction between a Pentacle and a Pentagram ... you can start any time. :D

No amount of resistance to pain will let you function without a brain or with a perforated heart.

Those are hard shots under stress. Even more so with the body Armour i am talking about giving the guy. I wouldn't count on those unless you have a sniper already in place.

Those are hard shots under stress. Even more so with the body Armour i am talking about giving the guy. I wouldn't count on those unless you have a sniper already in place.

Why wouldn't they? Police resources extend further than guys with big guns.

Meth heads can also try to have a shoot out with a SWAT team while strung out on meth.

According to a British documentary I saw once (called "War on Drugs") the use of amphetamines in combat is standard practice for the USAF.

I know that isn't strong evidence, but it seems plausible to me. Some truckies use amphetamines to maintain concentration in the rather boring time doing their job. The pharmaceutical treatment for ADHD is either Ritalin or dexamphetamine -- both amphetamines.

Amphetamines are a performance enhancer very much analogous to adrenaline. They could enhance battle performance, or impair it, depending on whether the user is "going up" or "coming down." An hour or two after taking it from a state of being clean, yes enhancing. Two days into a binge with no sleep, no, the user will be less effective at anything.

"Strung out" is probably the latter state. The drug regime of the SWAT team is probably the former. Since the SWAT team can work in shifts and probably choose the time of confrontation, it's not looking good for Billy.

Oh, and by the way: screw Billy. I don't wish death on him, but burglary isn't a good way to make a living, whatever he spends the money on.

until we give Billy a tank and some training.

But does so less effectively then an aircraft designed for that purpose.
A tactical bomber/ ground attack aircraft could take out upwards of a dozen tanks per sortie, where as an F-22 is limited to two targets per sortie.
Resulting in more return runs to the carrier to re arm.
Costing more fuel, and increasing the number of aircraft needed on hand to deal with ground forces.

A single tank. No reloading necessary.