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You have cancer? You owe me five bucks!

Lunatic Goofballs
13-05-2009, 04:05
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/12/us.genes.lawsuit/index.html

How the fuck do you patent breast cancer or Alzheimer's Disease? :confused:
Saige Dragon
13-05-2009, 04:07
Does Gene Simmons have something to do with this?
Pope Joan
13-05-2009, 04:12
Is this the newest followup to Mutual of Omaha trying to get the rights to say "Wow factor"?

It's eerily like the world of Jennifer Government; everything is becoming privatized.
Wilgrove
13-05-2009, 04:15
People are dicks.
Gauthier
13-05-2009, 04:18
These kinds of WTF aren't exactly new. Small farmers have been sued by agrocorps because some pollens from a trademark crop pollinated their plantstock by stray wind and shit.
Luna Amore
13-05-2009, 04:20
Goddamn it LG, you're supposed to make us happy! LUNA AMORE ANGRY!
Lunatic Goofballs
13-05-2009, 04:21
Goddamn it LG, you're supposed to make us happy! LUNA AMORE ANGRY!

*pushes you into mud*

I patented the silly gene. Just in case. :)
Heikoku 2
13-05-2009, 04:22
Okay, that's it, I'm patenting the words "is", "am", "are", "do", "yes", "no", "the" and Neeee-Wom!
Non Aligned States
13-05-2009, 04:25
There are times when I think patents should be burned on the grounds that it's stupid and only serves greedy fucks. This is one of those times.
Luna Amore
13-05-2009, 04:28
*pushes you into mud*

I patented the silly gene. Just in case. :)Patented it? I thought you invented it.

In all seriousness though, reading the article all I could think was, patenting cancer genes to limit research? Are these Captain Planet villains?
SaintB
13-05-2009, 04:42
This is like the world of ShadowRun, a couple of greedy bastards have the full rights to anything you can think of. This is fucking pathetic.
Wilgrove
13-05-2009, 04:45
I now patent the right to the word "I" "Me" "Him" "He" "She" "Her" and "It".

:D
Heikoku 2
13-05-2009, 04:45
Patented it? I thought you invented it.

In all seriousness though, reading the article all I could think was, patenting cancer genes to limit research? Are these Captain Planet villains?

There are people who openly say they want to increase their carbon footprint because they don't believe in man-made global warming.

So, yeah. Some people do seem like Captain Planet villains.
Heikoku 2
13-05-2009, 04:46
I now patent the right to the word "I" "Me" "Him" "He" "She" "Her" and "It".

:D

You owe me ten bucks.
The Black Forrest
13-05-2009, 04:47
Dirty commie muslim loving facist child raping baby killing ACLU getting in the way of the free market again!

Seriously; just when you figure out how low humanity can go; somebody comes along and lowers the bar even more.

I want to patent the letter E!
Wilgrove
13-05-2009, 04:48
You owe me ten bucks.

I also patent the word "You".

You owe me $20. :D
Heikoku 2
13-05-2009, 04:48
I also patent the word "You".

You owe me $20. :D

Call it even?
Wilgrove
13-05-2009, 04:50
Call it even?

Sure.
Heikoku 2
13-05-2009, 04:50
I want to patent the letter E!

Why th hll would you do somthing lik that? Go f*gts shot*
SaintB
13-05-2009, 04:51
You owe me ten bucks.

I patented every letter in the English Alphabet. :D
Heikoku 2
13-05-2009, 04:53
i patented every letter in the english alphabet. :d

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Non Aligned States
13-05-2009, 04:55
I patent patents. You all owe me a lot of money.
Luna Amore
13-05-2009, 04:55
I patent the antidote.
SaintB
13-05-2009, 04:57
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I'm nice enough to let people use it for a yearly subscription fee of only $0.99
Wilgrove
13-05-2009, 04:57
I patented every letter in the English Alphabet. :D

Lucky for me, I know the Anglo Saxon rune alphabet! :D
Heikoku 2
13-05-2009, 04:58
I'm nice enough to let people use it for a yearly subscription fee of only $0.99

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Lunatic Goofballs
13-05-2009, 05:02
I patent patents. You all owe me a lot of money.

I have patented the oxygenation of hemoglobin.

*gets out a calculator* This is gonna cost ya.
The Black Forrest
13-05-2009, 05:02
Why th hll would you do somthing lik that? Go f*gts shot*

Well done that made me laugh! :D
The Black Forrest
13-05-2009, 05:04
Screw it! I release my patent on the letter E.

I NOW HOLD THE PATENT ON SEX!

Any of you that has done it, will do it, or even thinks of doing it; you owe me money!
Brutland and Norden
13-05-2009, 05:14
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/12/us.genes.lawsuit/index.html

How the fuck do you patent breast cancer or Alzheimer's Disease? :confused:
What they patented were the information and the right to research and do tests on the genes that causes the illnesses such as breast cancer. I'm not a fan of ACLU, but I would agree with them that it does stifle research and confine all of those research and diagnostic tests to one company/institution.
The Black Forrest
13-05-2009, 05:21
What they patented were the information and the right to research and do tests on the genes that causes the illnesses such as breast cancer. I'm not a fan of ACLU, but I would agree with them that it does stifle research and confine all of those research and diagnostic tests to one company/institution.

Well shoot. Somebody should tell Watson and Crick. Just think of all the money that is being stolen from them!
Dragontide
13-05-2009, 05:43
I have patented the oxygenation of hemoglobin.

*gets out a calculator* This is gonna cost ya.

Can I have cold medicine? I'll split it with ya 50-50! :p
The Black Forrest
13-05-2009, 05:48
Can I have cold medicine? I'll split it with ya 50-50! :p

Sorry but I think vicks, etc has that one.

Wait! Patent the cold virus!
Non Aligned States
13-05-2009, 05:58
I patent life itself! You're all my debt slaves now! Moo hoo ha ha ha!
New Manvir
13-05-2009, 06:05
*patents "the molecule"*
Heikoku 2
13-05-2009, 06:08
*patents "the molecule"*

*Patents "The Atom"*
Gauthier
13-05-2009, 06:10
*Patents the Patenting Process* You bitches all owe me everything.
Lacadaemon
13-05-2009, 06:13
I patent life itself! You're all my debt slaves now! Moo hoo ha ha ha!

Yah. I think the various of governments of the world might have priority on that claim.
Indri
13-05-2009, 06:20
Why didn't I think to do this? I could have gotten a patent and then spread carcinogens everywhere. I'd be the richest fucking guy ever and everyone else would be too busy dying from cancer to stop me.
Non Aligned States
13-05-2009, 06:43
*Patents the Patenting Process* You bitches all owe me everything.

Too slow Jack.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14788243&postcount=22
Gauthier
13-05-2009, 06:45
Too slow Jack.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14788243&postcount=22

No, you patented patents. I patented the process.
New Manvir
13-05-2009, 06:45
*Patents "The Atom"*

Let's be partners. We can make Gajillions of dollars, and laugh at poor people.

Or would you prefer to get shot again?
Non Aligned States
13-05-2009, 07:05
No, you patented patents. I patented the process.

Join with me. Together, patent and patenting process, we can rule the galaxy!
Gauthier
13-05-2009, 07:12
Join with me. Together, patent and patenting process, we can rule the galaxy!

*Plays Imperial March*
New Manvir
13-05-2009, 07:13
Join with me. Together, patent and patenting process, we can rule the galaxy!


Not if I have anything to say about it.
*patents the word patent*
greed and death
13-05-2009, 08:11
cancer was apparently invented by Private corporations in the 1940's just like aids was invented in the 1970's. To be honest I don't have a clue about patent law or genetics to even begin to look at this case and come to an idea of how it works.
Non Aligned States
13-05-2009, 08:17
Not if I have anything to say about it.
*patents the word patent*

Too late, Gauthier patented the patenting process, your patent is rejected. Your legalistic terror is no match for the power of the patented side.
Wilgrove
13-05-2009, 08:20
I patent cells! You all owe me a bunch of money!
Gauthier
13-05-2009, 08:41
Too late, Gauthier patented the patenting process, your patent is rejected. Your legalistic terror is no match for the power of the patented side.

And he owes us both royalties for trying to patent the word "patent".
Heikoku 2
13-05-2009, 08:49
Let's be partners. We can make Gajillions of dollars, and laugh at poor people.

Or would you prefer to get shot again?

It's not always a matter of what do I pref*gets shot*
The Infinite Dunes
13-05-2009, 09:14
I can vaguely understand the reason behind the patent. If you've spent lots of time and money to discover which gene is responsible for a cancer, then it would be a bit of a kick in the teeth for someone with better access to the the medical profession to just grab your research and force you out of the market -- just because they have more resources to advertise their service, because they haven't spent huge amounts on research.

However, they've not created anything new, so a patent isn't the right way to go.
Londim
13-05-2009, 10:51
I read a book about this called Next by Michael Crichton. If this goes the way the book did, we'll have a talking orangutan found in the forests of Indonesia and brought back to the US for research. It will be taken away and given a home but go on a rampage.

Oh and expect lots of sex (not with the orangutan), lawsuits and gunfights.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
13-05-2009, 11:21
These kinds of WTF aren't exactly new. Small farmers have been sued by agrocorps because some pollens from a trademark crop pollinated their plantstock by stray wind and shit.

It's all natural market forces until the "and shit."

Lawyers make a living on "and shit."
BunnySaurus Bugsii
13-05-2009, 11:26
I read a book about this called Next by Michael Crichton.

I've browsed some books by Michael Crichton.

I think his work amounts to "I thought of something ... and shit"

Oh, and he does this "plot" thing. He does it very badly, and I really wish he wouldn't.

Non-fiction would be better for him.
Ifreann
13-05-2009, 14:24
I copyright the patent forms. Mwahahaha
Gift-of-god
13-05-2009, 14:36
There is , rightly, a lot of debate about the merit of patents and copyrights. On th eone hand, knowledge works best when it is easily shared, but on the other hand, people deserve a certain ownership for their own creations.

However, I think that we as a society should be able to agree that the body of information that is necessary for finding a cure for cancer should be open to whichever researcher needs it.

People don't need to make a buck that badly.
Eofaerwic
13-05-2009, 15:01
There is , rightly, a lot of debate about the merit of patents and copyrights. On th eone hand, knowledge works best when it is easily shared, but on the other hand, people deserve a certain ownership for their own creations.


I don't think anyone would disbute the patent if they'd developed the 'cure' for cancer (or even one type of it). As it is, they are trying to patent the genetic information related to certain types of cancer. The further 'upstream' of the development process you block knowledge, the more disadvantageous it is. It's like having a foundation stone in a house but then refusing to allow anyone to actually build anything on that foundation. That causes a lot more disruption than say owning a chimney in the house (I know, bad analogy, but it's all my brain could come up with this afternoon).

Oh yes, and I patent eyes: anytime you see something, you owe me money.
Myrmidonisia
13-05-2009, 15:08
Okay, that's it, I'm patenting the words "is", "am", "are", "do", "yes", "no", "the" and Neeee-Wom!
Too bad those are already in common use. Except the last one -- have at it.
Risottia
13-05-2009, 15:20
These kinds of WTF aren't exactly new. Small farmers have been sued by agrocorps because some pollens from a trademark crop pollinated their plantstock by stray wind and shit.

EEEEHHH? :eek:
You would think that it should be the other way around: the farmer sues the agrocorp because the GM crops altered his plantstock by stray wind.

Holy shit.

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Reboot universe.

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Eofaerwic
13-05-2009, 15:26
EEEEHHH? :eek:
You would think that it should be the other way around: the farmer sues the agrocorp because the GM crops altered his plantstock by stray wind.

Holy shit.


You'd think wouldn't you. but you forget, the agrocorp has lots of money and lawyers, the poor farmer doesn't.
Vetalia
13-05-2009, 16:19
Fuck it, I'm saving my money and patenting the entire human genome. Every child born is another $100 in my pocket. I'll let dying people take advantage of the Postmortem Super Saver Package for the low, low price of only $19.95

Now that's a good reason to be anti-abortion and pro-euthanasia.
New Manvir
14-05-2009, 03:37
Too late, Gauthier patented the patenting process, your patent is rejected. Your legalistic terror is no match for the power of the patented side.

he can't patent the patenting process because I hold the patent on the word patent, so any time you want to patent something you have to pay me money or you can't use the word patent. And if you can't patent it it's not a patent. :p
New Manvir
14-05-2009, 03:39
It's not always a matter of what do I pref*gets shot*

*gets H2 declared legally dead from multiple gun shot wounds, and buys out his patent.*
Gauthier
14-05-2009, 04:22
he can't patent the patenting process because I hold the patent on the word patent, so any time you want to patent something you have to pay me money or you can't use the word patent. And if you can't patent it it's not a patent. :p

How are you going to patent the word when I own the right to the process, Young Skywalker?

:D
Non Aligned States
14-05-2009, 04:23
he can't patent the patenting process because I hold the patent on the word patent, so any time you want to patent something you have to pay me money or you can't use the word patent. And if you can't patent it it's not a patent. :p

Impressive, but you are not a patent holder yet.

You're still too slow, as I've already patented patents before your attempt. That means anything you try to patent must go through me. Thereby, I refuse your attempt to patent the word patent. Hah!