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Ferrari have threatened to quit Formula 1 at the end of the season if the sport continues with plans to introduce an optional £40m budget cap from 2010.
"If the regulations for 2010 will not change, then Ferrari does not intend to enter cars in the next Formula 1 world championship," read the statement.
Ferrari fear the evolution of a two-tier championship, between those teams who adopt the cap and those who do not.
The teams will discuss the plans with FIA chief Max Mosley in the next week.

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Currently there's already a small budget cut and look what is happening: 'small' teams attack the real big ones.

The last couple of races were the best in years. And it is certainly for the neutral watcher exciting to see other teams in the front rows.

Ferrari may have a very long tradition in Formule1, but I think the sport is bigger than Ferrari.

I actually agree with Ferrari here, this so called budget cap which will see a two-teir champoinship come about and wreck the sport, Ferrari isn't the only team talking about leaving, Red Bull has expressed that they too will pull out at the end of the year if the FIA continue these absurd rules.

The FIA and Bernie Eccelstone have made changes they have brought about the desired reults why make more changes that will wreck the sport?

Great start! What other rules can we make that will get everyone else to quit too?

Great start! What other rules can we make that will get everyone else to quit too?

Make this the budget cap: £40

Great start! What other rules can we make that will get everyone else to quit too?

Extreme emissions requirements. Get everybody to race in the Smart FourTwo and that should kill the sport entirely.

wouldn't a more accurate title be Ferrari: "modify the rules and we will quit"

Great start! What other rules can we make that will get everyone else to quit too?
pedal cars. Everyone has to race in pedalcars.

wouldn't a more accurate title be Ferrari: "modify the rules and we will quit"

Yes that is what it should be.


As for other rules that may just force out more teams is the one being talked about by the FIA banning refueling stops.

Cars should be required to use bananna peels as fuel.

Cars should be required to use bananna peels as fuel.

And go 88 miles per hour?

And go 88 miles per hour?

You cant go too much faster, the new banana peel requirements make the cars very slippery.

Yes that is what it should be.


As for other rules that may just force out more teams is the one being talked about by the FIA banning refueling stops.

How long do they think the race will last without refueling stops?

How irrelevant.

Who in hell cares what those bastards say or think.

Give me dirt track any day, with racing by and for real people.

Cars should be required to use bananna peels as fuel.

There's already an F3 car that runs on chocolate...

How long do they think the race will last without refueling stops?

Exactly, maybe half the length they do now. I don't think that will be going ahead but it is poor that the FIA is even talking about this.

I'm just glad the stupidest thing NASCAR has done is the Car of Tomorrow and throwing out yellow flags to bunch up the pack for a more exciting race.

wouldn't a more accurate title be Ferrari: "modify the rules and we will quit"

Even more accurate, "modify the rules ANOTHER TIME and we will quit".

Or, even better, "modify the rules and we will send in a couple of Centauro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centauro) in a red livery next time."

Meh!

This is a shitty situation. It's basically forcing a decision between innovation and good watchable racing which brings more fans to the sport.

Then again it's really the FIA's fault anyway for enforcing so many rules against simple innovation; the rules force the teams to invest a lot of money for minuscule upgrades (mostly aero stuff which costs a lot of money for wind tunnel testing).

The real solution would be to make a budget cap and eliminate some rules to allow innovation.

Just my $.02 (US).

Well if Ferrari succeed in getting rid of Spanky 'Son of a Fascist' Mosley from the FIA they will have my eternal gratitutde.

They can stop for all I care, Alonso be damned and shit. I hate Formula I.

They can stop for all I care, Alonso be damned and shit. I hate Formula I.

BOOOO! Hate is such a strong word :(.

Fun fact of the day: An F1 car creates so much downforce that it can travel upside down at speeds over 80mph (130km/h for you weird ones).

This fun fact has been brought to you by The One Eyed Weasel fun fact committee.

BOOOO! Hate is such a strong word :(.

Fun fact of the day: An F1 car creates so much downforce that it can travel upside down at speeds over 80mph (130km/h for you weird ones).

This fun fact has been brought to you by The One Eyed Weasel fun fact committee.

I can't comment on this on account of how hard I'm laughing right now.:tongue:

I can't comment on this on account of how hard I'm laughing right now.:tongue:

Excellent. Laughing is healthy:).

I think the sport would be much more interesting if in fact the cars did go upside down. Think of the awesome track designs. No one knows for a fact if the cars could go upside down though, since no one has ever bothered to try it.

I think the sport would be much more interesting if in fact the cars did go upside down. Think of the awesome track designs. No one knows for a fact if the cars could go upside down though, since no one has ever bothered to try it.

Suggest it, my little one eyed wonder.:D

How long do they think the race will last without refueling stops?
As long as it's designed to last.

It will just look like bicycle races - everyone fighting for the middle to minimize drag and save fuel for the final laps, where they try to overtake others spending as little fuel as possible.

They can stop for all I care, Alonso be damned and shit. I hate Formula I.

I don't really like Formula 1. It just doesn't appeal to me.

Also, there's a part of me, who wants to gloat how we're better than you in it. But I won't.

I don't really like Formula 1. It just doesn't appeal to me.

Also, there's a part of me, who wants to gloat how we're better than you in it. But I won't.

If you're talking about NASCAR, I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!:mad:

If you're talking about NASCAR, I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!:mad:

Finnish here? Thinks that NASCAR is merely going in circles?

''Ooh, look at me! I go in circles!''

Finnish here? Thinks that NASCAR is merely going in circles?

''Ooh, look at me! I go in circles!''

NASCAR sucks. So does Formula 1.

NASCAR sucks. So does Formula 1.

It's true. The only bit that's good is the crashes and the fact that Two Brits happen to be rather good.

and the fact that Two Brits happen to be rather good.

But not better than Fernando Alonso And that's understandable, he's Spanish, an Asturian to boot.

It's true. The only bit that's good is the crashes and the fact that Two Brits happen to be rather good.

the good thing about NASCAR is you don't have to listen to the girlfriend will getting drunk.

But not better than Fernando Alonso And that's understandable, he's Spanish, an Asturian to boot.

Alonso's shyte.






It's really hard to go on NSG when your mouse decides to die. :(

Alonso's shyte.


No he isn't, he is making more out of a not very good Renault than either of the Ferrari or Maclaren drivers are making out of their cars.

NASCAR sucks. So does Formula 1.

Did I ever say I liked Formula 1? I said that it didn't interest me.

Excellent. Laughing is healthy:).

I think the sport would be much more interesting if in fact the cars did go upside down. Think of the awesome track designs. No one knows for a fact if the cars could go upside down though, since no one has ever bothered to try it.

I have always said that the tunnel at Monaco should be curved so cars can do this, would make for interesting overtaking in tha section.

I don't really like Formula 1. It just doesn't appeal to me.

Also, there's a part of me, who wants to gloat how we're better than you in it. But I won't.

You really should mention all the flying Finns, Keke Rosberg, Mika Hakkinen (who was my favourite driver) and Kimi Raikkinen as well as a few other not quite there Finns such as Mika Salo.

But not better than Fernando Alonso And that's understandable, he's Spanish, an Asturian to boot.

Except he is a angry vindictive little shit, Ferrari will do well not to hire him when Raikkinen leaves at the ed of the season.

Except he is a angry vindictive little shit, Ferrari will do well not to hire him when Raikkinen leaves at the ed of the season.

Nanatsu say:

True, he is a little shit, I can't contest that. I know the guy, he studied at my school. He is an arrogant bastard. But you seem to have forgotten that Alonso drives for Renault, not Ferrari.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Alonso#2008-2009:_Return_to_Renault

Nanatsu say:

True, he is a little shit, I can't contest that. I know the guy, he studied at my school. He is an arrogant bastard. But you seem to have forgotten that Alonso drives for Renault, not Ferrari.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Alonso#2008-2009:_Return_to_Renault

I am well aware of what team he drives for and what teams he has driven for I was talking about speculation that ferrari wanting to sign him up when Raikkonen leaves Ferrari.

And really were you guys in the same class? Or just at the same school? So his persona hasn't changed since school?

I am well aware of what team he drives for and what teams he has driven for I was talking about speculation that ferrari wanting to sign him up when Raikkonen leaves Ferrari.

And really were you guys in the same class? Or just at the same school? So his persona hasn't changed since school?

Nanatsu say:

He's two or three classes younger than me, but we were in the same school. Also, no, he hasn't changed - he was a prick then, and is still a prick.

Nanatsu say:

He's two or three classes younger than me, but we were in the same school. Also, no, he hasn't changed - he was a prick then, and is still a prick.

Hardly surprising really seems to believe that he should own the world.

Hardly surprising really seems to believe that he should own the world.

Nanatsu say:

This is an Asturian concept. We really believe we should own the world.

As the saying goes: To' buen asturiano tien les cojones d'un tamano qui v'acorde al de nuestre corazon.

Nanatsu say:

This is an Asturian concept. We really believe we should own the world.

As the saying goes: To' buen asturiano tien les cojones d'un tamano qui v'acorde al de nuestre corazon.

That's not fair Nanatsu knows full well my Spanish is lacking. :mad:

Anyway I would say it is a Spanish mentality to get fired up over things, based on experiences with Spaniards whom I have had both the pleasure and misfortune to meet.

That's not fair Nanatsu knows full well my Spanish is lacking. :mad:

Anyway I would say it is a Spanish mentality to get fired up over things, based on experiences with Spaniards whom I have had both the pleasure and misfortune to meet.

Truer words were never spoken.

Now,

Nanatsu say:

I can see that your Spanish is lacking, my Aussie friend. Problem is that wasn't written in Spanish. That was Asturian.:wink:

And Galloism, you're a dick. :D

Fun fact of the day: An F1 car creates so much downforce that it can travel upside down at speeds over 80mph (130km/h for you weird ones).
So why don't they?
I'd watch it if they went into tunnels and could drive on the roof, like that scene in MIB.

Downforce lowered by 2g.

They would no longer be able to cut through tight turns at a high speed, and get through tight turns at all for that matter.

That's not fair Nanatsu knows full well my Spanish is lacking. :mad:

Anyway I would say it is a Spanish mentality to get fired up over things, based on experiences with Spaniards whom I have had both the pleasure and misfortune to meet.

Ohhh I dunow, all of my Spanish mates are chilled, it's the Italian ones that are a bit more ummm emotional!:D

You really should mention all the flying Finns, Keke Rosberg, Mika Hakkinen (who was my favourite driver) and Kimi Raikkinen as well as a few other not quite there Finns such as Mika Salo.



Except he is a angry vindictive little shit, Ferrari will do well not to hire him when Raikkinen leaves at the ed of the season.

Yeah, quite many Formula 1 drivers are Finnish.

And it's Häkkinen and Räikkönen. :)

Yeah, quite many Formula 1 drivers are Finnish.

And it's Häkkinen and Räikkönen. :)

Motorsport generally not just F1.

Motorsport generally not just F1.

Häkkinen moved from F1 to DTM, Kallio is in Moto GP, couple Finns in WRC.

Anyone else I'm missing?

I have always said that the tunnel at Monaco should be curved so cars can do this, would make for interesting overtaking in tha section.
Actually the old "Parabolica" at Monza was designed to keep cars at a sharp angle from the ground. Too bad that they don't use it anymore.

Btw, Renault has joined Ferrari against mr.NaziOrgy.

Nanatsu say:

This is an Asturian concept. We really believe we should own the world.


Ok, buy it. As long as you take Berlusconi in the bundle.

Ok, buy it. As long as you take Berlusconi in the bundle.

Nanatsu say:

The only bad thing that Italy ever gave the world is Berlusconi. I wouldn't buy him even if I got Ferrari in the deal.

Galloism say:

Italy, more specifically the Romans, also gave us ridiculous hats.

Galloism say:


Italy, more specifically the Romans, also gave us ridiculous hats.

Surely that is a good thing.

Nanatsu say:
Italy, more specifically the Romans, also gave us ridiculous hats.

http://www.columbiacostumes.com/Images/Weapons/helmet_roman_quality.jpg

Definitely, something that would daunt even Her British Majesty's bold hat tastes.

I was going to post something about racing being a wasteful sport, but I didn't want to get into the whole innovation from racing leads to better mileage for passenger cars argument. Besides, at least F1 features turns in other directions, unlike Redneck Racing.

Plus, you all seem to be genuinely...if not fully interested, then at least knowledgeable, about the sport, so I'll leave it.

Nanatsu say:

He's two or three classes younger than me, but we were in the same school. Also, no, he hasn't changed - he was a prick then, and is still a prick.

You knew him? Shit, you're well connected.

http://www.columbiacostumes.com/Images/Weapons/helmet_roman_quality.jpg

Definitely, something that would daunt even Her British Majesty's bold hat tastes.

http://dogless.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/hrh-queen-elizabeth-christmas-2008-841223091.jpg

You knew him? Shit, you're well connected.

Nanatsu:

We're both from Oviedo, we're both Asturian and he happened to go to the same school I did. Hardly being 'well connected". That's all. We're not old friends and he is, indeed, a pretentious shit. He just happens to be OUR pretentious shit and we Asturians are, despite it all, proud of the fop. He's an excellent F1 driver.

Nanatsu:

We're both from Oviedo, we're both Asturian and he happened to go to the same school I did. Hardly being 'well connected". That's all. We're not old friends and he is, indeed, a pretentious shit. He just happens to be OUR pretentious shit and we Asturians are, despite it all, proud of the fop. He's an excellent F1 driver.

Not as good as Button and Hamilton.

Not as good as Button and Hamilton.

Nanatsu:

A tomar por culo, inglesito!:wink:

Nanatsu:

A tomar por culo, inglesito!:wink:

Whato dido you-o say-o Rukiao-chano?

Whato dido you-o say-o Rukiao-chano?

Nanatsu:

I'm not in a giving mood today. Search for it, boy.:D

Nanatsu:

I'm not in a giving mood today. Search for it, boy.:D

"taking by bum *did not recognise the last word*"?

Ramera. :p

"taking by bum *did not recognise the last word*"?

Ramera. :p

Nanatsu:

Ramera? Well, I'm sure Galloism would agree with you. I am a whore, his whore.:D

Maricon.:D

Nanatsu:

Ramera? Well, I'm sure Galloism would agree with you. I am a whore, his whore.:D

Maricon.:D

Did you just call me gay?

Mujerzuela. :tongue:


(I dunno if that's a word?)

Did you just call me gay?

Mujerzuela. :tongue:


(I dunno if that's a word?)

Galloism say:

Stop insulting Nanatsu, you abanico de techo.

Galloism say:

Stop insulting Nanatsu, you abanico de techo.

I'm a kind of salsa now?wtf?


Sorry Nanatsu, tbh I don't really know what I said to you.

I'm a kind of salsa now?wtf?


Sorry Nanatsu, tbh I don't really know what I said to you.

Nanatsu:

:eek2:
ROFLMFAO!

Abanico de techo and salsa. Your translator is fucked up. LOL! Get thee a new one!

Nanatsu:

:eek2:
ROFLMFAO!

Abanico de techo and salsa. Your translator is fucked up. LOL! Get thee a new one!

lol, I know it's shyte. I hate being ignorant.



Abanico Salsa (http://www.abanicosalsa.com/)

Nanatsu:

:eek2:
ROFLMFAO!

Abanico de techo and salsa. Your translator is fucked up. LOL! Get thee a new one!

I'm actually quite confused at the moment.

Are you two actually sharing a terminal or just pretending to be each other for shits and giggles?

I'm actually quite confused at the moment.

Are you two actually sharing a terminal or just pretending to be each other for shits and giggles?

Yes.

I'm actually quite confused at the moment.

Are you two actually sharing a terminal or just pretending to be each other for shits and giggles?

No.

Yes.

The only reason I'm struggling is that you both exude such raw hotness from your posts that I can't tell whether it's a joke or not.

The only reason I'm struggling is that you both exude such raw hotness from your posts that I can't tell whether it's a joke or not.

Are you saying I'm hot?

Are you saying I'm hot?

No, he's saying I'm hot.

Are you saying I'm hot?

I am. ;)

I have a soft spot for people with a sense of humour.

No, he's saying I'm hot.

Meh, you're luke-warm in a good light and with the wind at your back.

Meh, you're luke-warm in a good light and with the wind at your back.

Better than nothing.

Better than nothing.

Nice to know you'd be up for a bit of man-on-man loving.

Nice to know you'd be up for a bit of man-on-man loving.

Why not?

Are you saying I'm hot?

Of course

Yeah, quite many Formula 1 drivers are Finnish.

And it's Häkkinen and Räikkönen. :)

I knew I was spelling Raikkonen wrong and as for your little ublong(?), umlong(?) oblong(?) or whatever the correct term is (The two dots above the letters) my keyboard doesn't have them so I am unable to type it.

I like the budget cut. In the past it were the richest teams that won the races. Now, the others have a chance of winning too.

F1 lost that loving feeling and now it is back. It is turning me on again.

Besides, at least F1 features turns in other directions, unlike Redneck Racing.

Yes because only rednecks could possibly like NASCAR. :rolleyes:

At least with NASCAR you can have cars trade paint without losing a wheel. Try that with F1.