NationStates Jolt Archive

Who's voting? Who for? Ect, ect.



http://www.euprofiler.eu/

It isn't for a couple weeks. Lay off.

It isn't for a couple weeks. Lay off.

Alright.

Just got brought to my attention cos my mums voting UKIP for some reason I work out. And My brother isn't bothering to. Both of these irritated me.

a while ago i found this party selector quiz thing for all of the european parties. i apparently should move to barcelona and vote for the catalonian greens.

a while ago i found this party selector quiz thing for all of the european parties. i apparently should move to barcelona and vote for the catalonian greens.

What do they do? Tell kids to eat vegetables?

Both of these irritated me.


I thought you were anti-Europe?

I thought you were anti-Europe?

I am. I'm not anti EU. I dislike the Euro and the European people in general, but I like the EU (mostly).

The whole not voting thing pissed me off more.

Lib Dem ftw!

I am sneaking to the UK. Some conservative party members have given me lots of money and fake IDs with instructions to vote conservative.

Lib Dem ftw!
Good for you, you waste your vote.
I am sneaking to the UK. Some conservative party members have given me lots of money and fake IDs with instructions to vote conservative.

Wouldn't surprise me these days. :(

Good for you, you waste your vote.


Wouldn't surprise me these days. :(

As it happens, there is a PR system in place in the EU elections, so he isn't wasting his vote. Indeed, as far as every vote counting goes, the EU elections are far more representative than the UK's general elections.

As it happens, there is a PR system in place in the EU elections, so he isn't wasting his vote. Indeed, as far as every vote counting goes, the EU elections are far more representative than the UK's general elections.

Leb Dems still equal epic fail.

Good for you, you waste your vote.


As the current EU parliament does close to fuck all of any import, that's true of any vote.

a while ago i found this party selector quiz thing for all of the european parties. i apparently should move to barcelona and vote for the catalonian greens.

aha, found it (http://www.euprofiler.eu/)

As the current EU parliament does close to fuck all of any import, that's true of any vote.

Should still vote though, everyone should.

Should still vote though, everyone should.

But why, if some are "wasted"?

Leb Dems still equal epic fail.

Explain how, or you're talking shit. Which party d'you support, BTW?

aha, found it (http://www.euprofiler.eu/)

I should vote for green apparently.

But why, if some are "wasted"?
Still important.
Explain how, or you're talking shit. Which party d'you support, BTW?

The CPB.

Wouldn't surprise me these days. :(

You should be happy i made money.

Still important.


The CPB.

The Communist Party of Britain? And you think a vote for Lib Dem is wasted...

aha, found it (http://www.euprofiler.eu/)

I took the nation-specific one, and my cross landed smack-bang on the liberal democrat position, so I know I'm voting the right way!

You should be happy i made money.
Yeah, well, I didn't.
The Communist Party of Britain? And you think a vote for Lib Dem is wasted...

Ah, but I can't vote.

Yeah, well, I didn't.


Ah, but I can't vote.

But when you can vote will you be voting for the CPB? And if not, then who for?

Also I took that test. The Lib Dems seem to be the ones my opinions are closest to.

aha, found it (http://www.euprofiler.eu/)

UK Independence party woohoo.

But when you can vote will you be voting for the CPB? And if not, then who for?

Also I took that test. The Lib Dems seem to be the ones my opinions are closest to.

I'd vote for them cos every party is full of fail.

Should still vote though, everyone should.

Regardless of the electoral viability of one's preferred party, voting for a party that does not represent one's views truly is throwing one's vote away. As a result, one should vote for the party which provides the most accurate representation of one's views, not the party which is most electorally viable in one's area (otherwise I would have to vote Conservative, the very thought of which repulses me).

I took the nation-specific one, and my cross landed smack-bang on the liberal democrat position, so I know I'm voting the right way!

I land about halfway between the Greens and the Liberal Democrats, although I suspect that's because I marked most of the EU related aspects as fairly "don't care" - my actual positions are closer to those of the LDs. From the little spider-diagrams they offer, I should be voting for the Partito Ecologista Svizzero, as my closest match overall.

Anyway, I shall probably vote for both the SLP and TPP, because I'm a dirty anarchist hippy.

Yeah, well, I didn't.


Ah, but I can't vote.

Is it my fault you vote for the communist and they are too cheap to pay for your votes ?

Regardless of the electoral viability of one's preferred party, voting for a party that does not represent one's views truly is throwing one's vote away. As a result, one should vote for the party which provides the most accurate representation of one's views, not the party which is most electorally viable in one's area (otherwise I would have to vote Conservative, the very thought of which repulses me).
There arn't any CPB things here. Besides everyone fucking torries round here. :(

Anyway, I shall probably vote for both the SLP and TPP, because I'm a dirty anarchist hippy.

Say what now?

Is it my fault you vote for the communist and they are too cheap to pay for your votes ?

No, they'd just have to pay everyone else the same as what they gave me.

No, they'd just have to pay everyone else the same as what they gave me.

so 50 pence. Instead of the 10k pounds I got for selling my vote to the tories.

so 50 pence. Instead of the 10k pounds I got for selling my vote to the tories.

If that's what it comes to.

I am. I'm not anti EU. I dislike the Euro and the European people in general, but I like the EU (mostly).

I like the concept of the Euro. It's now much easier to compare prices, you don't have to change money etc.

But I don't like the correlated inflation since its introduction. Politicians in this country do their best by saying that it is just an impression this Euro-inflation, but I doubt if this one is true.

By accident I found a cash receipt of some supermarket of 1998. Eleven years later the prices doubled and sometimes tripled. This didn't happen to my salary.

If that's what it comes to.

don't worry the coming Tory police state will vote for you.

I like the concept of the Europe. It's now much easier to compare prices, you don't have to change money etc.

But I don't like the correlated inflation since its introduction. Politicians in this country do their best by saying that it is just an impression this Euro-inflation, but I doubt if this one is true.

By accident I found a cash receipt of some supermarket of 1998. Eleven years later the prices doubled and sometimes tripled. This didn't happen to my salary.

This is what happens when you have developing countries and developed countries on the same currency.

There arn't any CPB things here. Besides everyone fucking torries round here. :(

Same here - I live in Boris Johnson's old constituency. This place is going to be blue until the day I die. Hence, my voting plan:


Say what now?

SLP - Socialist Labour Party. Basically a hard-left offshoot of the Labour party, which split away when "New Labour" came into fashion.
TPP - The Peace Party. Name is relatively self explanatory - believe in things like common brotherhood, no war, etc.

By marking my ballot for both, I simultaneously send a signal of being a leftist - from voting for the SLP; a hippy - from voting for TPP; and an anarchist - by voting for both, thus making my ballot invalid, and demonstrating I don't believe this whole voting thing serves any real purpose.

Same here - I live in Boris Johnson's old constituency. This place is going to be blue until the day I die. Hence, my voting plan:

Ah, Boris? That's harsh.

SLP - Socialist Labour Party. Basically a hard-left offshoot of the Labour party, which split away when "New Labour" came into fashion.
TPP - The Peace Party. Name is relatively self explanatory - believe in things like common brotherhood, no war, etc.

By marking my ballot for both, I simultaneously send a signal of being a leftist - from voting for the SLP; a hippy - from voting for TPP; and an anarchist - by voting for both, thus making my ballot invalid, and demonstrating I don't believe this whole voting thing serves any real purpose.

Yeah, as I can't vote for my party, I'm going to make my vote invalid. It's better than not voting. I've persuaded several people who don't have a party to do this.

This is what happens when you have developing countries and developed countries on the same currency.

No, I don't think so. The Euro isn't still used in the entire community. Some countries don't like it for several reasons and others are not qualified (enough). Before a country may use the Euro as its currency it has the fulfil a set of parameters and requirements.

The inflation correlated with the Euro started rather easy: many companies (surely in low-cost services as supermarkets, bars, restaurants, etc...) took the opportunity to raise their prices.

To give an example, before the introduction of the Euro, a beer had a price tag of 50-60 Belgian Francs (which is about 1,25 - 1,50 Euro) after the introduction of the Euro most pubs were asking 2 Euro for a beer.

The plural of Euro is Euro?

Ah, but I can't vote.

Mental patient or prisoner?

I will be voting, registered last week :) And I shall be voting Tory.

The plural of Euro is Euro?

Who cares? This is a fucking (look people I’m swearing ! :p) forum not some scientific paper.

No, I don't think so. The Euro isn't still used in the entire community. Some countries don't like it for several reasons and others are not qualified (enough). Before a country may use the Euro as its currency it has the fulfil a set of parameters and requirements.

The inflation correlated with the Euro started rather easy: many companies (surely in low-cost services as supermarkets, bars, restaurants, etc...) took the opportunity to raise their prices.

To give an example, before the introduction of the Euro, a beer had a price tag of 50-60 Belgian Francs (which is about 1,25 - 1,50 Euro) after the introduction of the Euro most pubs were asking 2 Euro for a beer.

My country would be that Greece has shown it is very easy to get around the requirements for being part of the monetary union.

The plural of Euro is Euro?

Not technically, but it's a common enough way of saying it. Not entirely unprecedented in currency either - "two bob", for a wonderfully British example.

Mental patient or prisoner?
15.
I will be voting, registered last week :) And I shall be voting Tory.
*Gags*
Who cares? This is a fucking (look people I’m swearing ! :p) forum not some scientific paper.

I care. I wanna know what the plural is, Euro or Euros?

Who cares? This is a fucking (look people I’m swearing ! :p) forum not some scientific paper.

You underestimate the power of pedantry. If you do not source, then you will meet your destiny.

Not technically, but it's a common enough way of saying it. Not entirely unprecedented in currency either - "two bob", for a wonderfully British example.

Yeah, but that's slang- like 2 bar.

My country would be that Greece has shown it is very easy to get around the requirements for being part of the monetary union.

Sure, but other are trying it already for years and don't get passed. I'm unaware about what these specific conditions are. I thought that one of them is that the debts of the government shouldn't be higher as agreed at the Maastricht Treaty.

15.

*Gags*


I care. I wanna know what the plural is, Euro or Euros?

In Dutch it is Euro, but in English it is Euros.

a while ago i found this party selector quiz thing for all of the european parties. i apparently should move to barcelona and vote for the catalonian greens.
And apparently I should vote for Sinn Fein. That might be enough to make me find out more (i.e. something) about them...

As it is (what with not being in Norn Iron and all), I'll be voting for the Greens and maybe the SLP.

Sure, but other are trying it already for years and don't get passed. I'm unaware about what these specific conditions are. I thought that one of them is that the debts of the government shouldn't be higher as agreed at the Maastricht Treaty.

The major concern would be having achieved a steady plateau of growth.
Rapid increases along with rapid declines react havoc on a currency if intrest rates can individually.
Imagine if Poland was in the Euro zone. 10% growth in 2006, massive decline in 2008.

There is not one single party in Belgium that is appealing me.

CDV (Christians): A bunch of incompetent people

VLD (Liberals): Weak personalities, except 1

Vlaams Belang (Extreme Right): Pfff, I don't like their agenda

LDD (Right): Populist party with a no-brain at the top and a simple (unworkable) program in their hands.

Groen (Green): The green party isn't a serious one here, they have no solid program.
Hello? we are in the deepest financial crisis since ever. We'll save earth and the whales later.

SP (Socialists): I don't like their agenda and very weak personalities

NVA (Nationalists): Their headman is a solid guy, but I don't know who are the others. Their program is too limited.

And the others are too small to make any difference.

I don’t think I will go out and vote this time.

I guess that LDD and Vlaams Belang will win the elections in Belgium. There were a series of scandals here (a few very serious ones) and such things are gefundenes fressen for extreme and populist parties.

And apparently I should vote for Sinn Fein. That might be enough to make me find out more (i.e. something) about them...

As it is (what with not being in Norn Iron and all), I'll be voting for the Greens and maybe the SLP.

Represent, comrades!

Represent, comrades!

You guys suck.

http://www.whatnextjournal.co.uk/Pages/Back/Wnext8/CPB.html

But we should be together.

Colonic Immigration,

Maybe you should add this EU profiler to your initial posting:

http://www.euprofiler.eu/

Done.

Represent, comrades!
I'd prefer to vote SPoGB. Bit unsure about Scargill. Not that it really makes a blind bit of difference to the result of any election, of course.

I'd prefer to vote SPoGB. Bit unsure about Scargill. Not that it really makes a blind bit of difference to the result of any election, of course.

Seriously? None of you left-wing Britons like the CPB?

I'd prefer to vote SPoGB. Bit unsure about Scargill. Not that it really makes a blind bit of difference to the result of any election, of course.

I only picked them as the most left-wing party standing in my region - besides, I'm going to be invalidating my ballot, so it doesn't really matter.

Seriously? None of you left-wing Britons like the CPB?

Aren't standing in the South-East.

I only picked them as the most left-wing party standing in my region - besides, I'm going to be invalidating my ballot, so it doesn't really matter.



Aren't standing in the South-East.

I, know, but if they were, would you?

I, know, but if they were, would you?

No - I'm no Marxist-Leninist, and their platform reeks of many of the worst parts of it. Case in point, consider this:


Communists operate according to the principles of democratic centralism. Through ongoing debate we seek to achieve unity in action and a common world outlook. As long as they support agreed actions, members have the right to speak openly and form temporary or permanent factions.

This is, in my opinion, trash. Democratic centralism is simply a code word for "the bosses take the decisions, everyone else abides by them". Basically, what they're saying here is "you can disagree, but you have to still work with us". Fuck off I won't.

I took the nation-specific one, and my cross landed smack-bang on the liberal democrat position, so I know I'm voting the right way!

Ditto, Lib Dem all the way - which I alreayd knew, but nice to have it confirmed :D. Now all I need if for them to call a general election before I move from where I am currently, since there may be half a chance of the Lib Dems winning a seat here.


The inflation correlated with the Euro started rather easy: many companies (surely in low-cost services as supermarkets, bars, restaurants, etc...) took the opportunity to raise their prices.


Yup, I noticed that one - though most raised their prices just before the change over so that they didn';t get done by the regulations to stop people, well raising their prices when they changed to the Euro.

The thing is, they can only really get away with that once but by then the damage is done.

No - I'm no Marxist-Leninist, and their platform reeks of many of the worst parts of it. Case in point, consider this:



This is, in my opinion, trash. Democratic centralism is simply a code word for "the bosses take the decisions, everyone else abides by them". Basically, what they're saying here is "you can disagree, but you have to still work with us". Fuck off I won't.

Pussy. Better than the SLP seem.

a while ago i found this party selector quiz thing for all of the european parties. i apparently should move to barcelona and vote for the catalonian greens.

I apparently need to move to Cyprus, and vote for a party that I cannot type out on this computer since they use a different alphabet.

Libertas is running in Ireland this year. I hear they have piss all support so far. Shock horror.

Lib Dem ftw!

You know which British party is closest to me according to the EUprofiler?

Lib Dem.

I apparently need to move to Cyprus, and vote for a party that I cannot type out on this computer since they use a different alphabet.

change sides of the island, the turks' alphabet at least looks like ours

Still important.


The CPB.

You're a Communist, yet you're xenophobic and support Thatcher? Something's not right there.

You're a Communist, yet you're xenophobic and support Thatcher? Something's not right there.

I'm just not right.


We need someone like Thatcher now.


Your xenophobic.

English Democrats.

We need someone like Thatcher now.

Her economic policies differ massively from yours, tell me why you would like her so much.

Your xenophobic.

You're, not your, no I'm not, and even if I was, that's not exactly a rebuttal of my statement, is it?

English Democrats.

Seriously?

Seriously?

D'you even know who they are?

Her economic policies differ massively from yours, tell me why you would like her so much.

We need someone strong, perhaps someone people can hate, but someone strong. Someone who does not seem like a bumbling idiot.

You're, not your, no I'm not, and even if I was, that's not exactly a rebuttal of my statement, is it?

Right, my bad.


Change scares me.

D'you even know who they are?

Yeah, they want an English parliament, why? We don't need one.

Yeah, they want an English parliament, why? We don't need one.

Yes we do. The Welsh, Scots and Northern Irish get their own respective parliaments, where they vote on issues affecting only their countries, but when something affecting only England is put to vote, any MP from the whole of the UK can vote for or against it in the Commons. That's not fair.

Yes we do. The Welsh, Scots and Northern Irish get their own respective parliaments, where they vote on issues affecting only their countries, but when something affecting only England is put to vote, any MP from the whole of the UK can vote for or against it in the Commons. That's not fair.

Where would we put it?


Besides, the Scots, Welsh, and Irons shouldn't have their own parliaments.

Where would we put it?

In London, where else?


Besides, the Scots, Welsh, and Irons shouldn't have their own parliaments.

Not a fan of people making their own decisions, then?

Where would we put it?


Besides, the Scots, Welsh, and Irons shouldn't have their own parliaments.

We can always make the UK a territory of the US and administer all of it via appointed federal governor.

In London, where else?

I meant- where in London?




Not a fan of people making their own decisions, then?


Not a fan of division within the Union.

We can always make the UK a territory of the US and administer all of it via appointed federal governor.

You try to piss me off on purpose, don't you?

In London, where else?


Winchester! Go for the historic capital :D (by which I mean Alfred the Greats). Or York for that matter, which Richard III considered making the capital (before he got killed that is). Move things around a little, stop London having all the fun :p

On a more serious note, personally I'd support a move to England having multiple assembleys - North, South and London (for example), rather than one single government. Because frankly the argument that can be made about the different issues and situations between Scotland, England, Wales and N. Ireland, can equally be made between the North and South of England.

You try to piss me off on purpose, don't you?

Awww come on it wouldnt be that bad. You wouldn't have taxes.

Winchester! Go for the historic capital :D (by which I mean Alfred the Greats). Or York for that matter, which Richard III considered making the capital (before he got killed that is). Move things around a little, stop London having all the fun :p

Yeah, Winchester's a good idea actually.

Winchester! Go for the historic capital :D (by which I mean Alfred the Greats). Or York for that matter, which Richard III considered making the capital (before he got killed that is). Move things around a little, stop London having all the fun :p
Deal used to be the capital, I think.
Awww come on it wouldnt be that bad. You wouldn't have taxes.

I don't pay them anyway.

But, seriously- fuck the US.

Deal used to be the capital, I think.


I don't pay them anyway.

But, seriously- fuck the US.

well after the conservatives win the next election your country will likely be Mini US anyways. Might as well get it with no taxes.

You try to piss me off on purpose, don't you?

It's called a joke.

But, seriously- fuck the US.

It's unbelievable how ignorant you are.

well after the conservatives win the next election your country will likely be Mini US anyways. Might as well get it with no taxes.
How will it?
It's called a joke.
Really!?
It's unbelievable how ignorant you are.

Thank you.

EU Profiler puts me somewhere between the Scottish Greens, the Kommunistische Partei Österreichs, and Piratpartiet.

Which is kinda accurate.


Should still vote though, everyone should.
Why?


In London, where else?
Up north, or, as Eofaerwic says, in multiple locations.

London's already got the GLA, if you folks need a devolved parliament, as I agree you should, you need one that isn't solely interested in south-east England.

How will it?



Just imagine someone like Thatcher running things again.

London's already got the GLA, if you folks need a devolved parliament, as I agree you should, you need one that isn't solely interested in south-east England.

Cumbria then. That's about as far Northwest as you can get.

Why?

Cos people died so that you could vote. Even if you do not support anyone, just make it void. At least you send a message.
Just imagine someone like Thatcher running things again.

You're comparing Cameron to Thatcher!?

You're comparing Cameron to Thatcher!?

yeah your right thatcher never pretending to be environmentalist by riding a bicycle into parliament while her chauffeur driven limousine carried her belongings.

yeah your right thatcher never pretending to be environmentalist by riding a bicycle into parliament while her chauffeur driven limousine carried her belongings.

I know, the man's a bafoon.

Cos people died so that you could vote.
Many people died for many different causes.

Emotional blackmail doesn't work here.

Even if you do not support anyone, just make it void. At least you send a message.
A majority of people not voting sends a message also.

I know, the man's a bafoon.

So was Bush. Your only hope may be to become part of Obama's America, or become like Bush's America.

Many people died for many different causes.

Emotional blackmail doesn't work here.


A majority of people not voting sends a message also.

Yeah, that people are lazy and unappriciative.

Yeah, that people are lazy and unappriciative.
A rather crass generalisation of more than half of the UK's eligible voters, don't you think?

Many people have many different problems with the parliamentary system, and British/EU politics in general. Reducing these problems to laziness or apathy, attributed by the press or by politicians themselves, is one of the things that is itself a problem.

A rather crass generalisation of more than half of the UK's eligible voters, don't you think?

Many people have many different problems with the parliamentary system, and British/EU politics in general. Reducing these problems to laziness or apathy, attributed by the press or by politicians themselves, is one of the things that is itself a problem.

Half the people don't vote!?

Half the people don't vote!?
Only 37.6% of UK eligible voters actually participated in the last EU elections (Source (http://www.euractiv.com/en/elections/voter-turnout-european-election-lower/article-117868)), though turnout in the last general election was up slightly at 61.3% (Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/frontpage/4519515.stm)).

Only 37.6% of UK eligible voters actually participated in the last EU elections (Source (http://www.euractiv.com/en/elections/voter-turnout-european-election-lower/article-117868)), though turnout in the last general election was up slightly at 61.3% (Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/frontpage/4519515.stm)).

That's awful, you lazy fucks.

That's awful, you lazy fucks.
Once again, attributing the poor turnout to laziness is a cop-out.

The majority of people in many of the EU countries feel that the election is not worth them getting involved with, and that's the citizen's fault?

aha, found it (http://www.euprofiler.eu/)

Apparently, If I were living in Britain, I'd be voting UKIP, either that or Conservative. I can live with that.

Apparently, If I were living in Britain, I'd be voting UKIP, either that or Conservative. I can live with that.

Has me down as a Liberal Democrat with Conservative in second place followed by the Greens then Labour. Which is interesting as I used to be a Labour party member. Can't ever see myself voting for the Conservatives though.

This quiz fails.

Greens
BNP (??????????)
And then the Lib Dems with the Conservatives (lulwut?) in joint third.

This quiz fails.

Greens
BNP (??????????)
And then the Lib Dems with the Conservatives (lulwut?) in joint third.
ftw?

though everyone has prolly already said it I got Lib dem (on the graph thing its like bang on)

still voting labour though =/ (none of the parties represent EU integration I noticed)

aha, found it (http://www.euprofiler.eu/)Hm... Det Radikale Venstre (Danish radical left) appears to be the most in sync with my ideals, with the Newropeans being the closest in Germany. Greens aren't too far away either...

This is what happens when you have developing countries and developed countries on the same currency.
Ohohoho. Which developing countries use the €?

though everyone has prolly already said it I got Lib dem (on the graph thing its like bang on)

still voting labour though =/ (none of the parties represent EU integration I noticed)
Labour?
http://www.schnews.org.uk/images/513-new-labour-800.jpg
Hm... Det Radikale Venstre (Danish radical left) appears to be the most in sync with my ideals, with the Newropeans being the closest in Germany. Greens aren't too far away either...


Ohohoho. Which developing countries use the €?

Some of the Eastern Block?

Who's voting? Who for? Ect, ect.


I'm going, and I still have to decide whether to vote void (not blank, void: like barring everything with a big X), or to vote for the list grouping Rifondazione Comunista and Comunisti Italiani. In the latter case, I'll mark a preference for Margherita Hack (an astrophysicist and a cat-lover).

I'm going, and I still have to decide whether to vote void (not blank, void: like barring everything with a big X), or to vote for the list grouping Rifondazione Comunista and Comunisti Italiani. In the latter case, I'll mark a preference for Margherita Hack (an astrophysicist and a cat-lover).

She's 86!?

She's named after a pizza? :p

Labour?

the labour woman I get is not so bad and really as far as options go its her or Bloody Nasty People win

also labour can't be fascist its far too incompetent :)

Some of the Eastern Block?

thats ex-2nd world...its a bit different

the labour woman I get is not so bad and really as far as options go its her or Bloody Nasty People win

also labour can't be fascist its far too incompetent :)


BNP popular in coolvile?

She's 86!? She's named after a pizza? :p
Yea, she's 86. So what? The best senator we have is Rita Levi Montalcini, age 100, Nobel Prize for Medicine and senator for life. She never misses a session and still works in research.

Nope, it's the pizza that's named after a person called Margherita *whap* .Though that would only add appeal.

Yea, she's 86. So what? The best senator we have is Rita Levi Montalcini, age 100, Nobel Prize for Medicine and senator for life. She never misses a session and still works in research.
100? Are all your polititions ancient.
Nope, it's the pizza that's named after a person called *whap* .Though that would only add appeal.

lol, yeah Queen Margherita.

BNP popular in coolvile?

they seem to be the only types that vote in EU elections, though it may be UKIP they all look the same to me >_>

Some of the Eastern Block?
No. To my knowledge, not a single devolping country uses the Euro. Perhaps Kosovo could theoretically be considered a devoloping country, if it were a legally recognized country. Probably not even Kosovo, though.

thats ex-2nd world...its a bit differentIt'd be a long stretch to classify Slovakia or Slovenia as "2nd World" or, more correctly, Transition countries.

Ohohoho. Which developing countries use the €?

Looking at the mess in Greece I would say them. Even if they claim to be developed.

Looking at the mess in Greece I would say them. Even if they claim to be developed.Greece is a developed country according to just about every definition of the term.

Greece is a developed country according to just about every definition of the term.

only by cheating to meet those definitions like they did to get on the Euro.

only by cheating to meet those definitions like they did to get on the Euro.Feel free to find one of the many definitions and then proceed to support the claim that it doesn't meet it. With evidence.

Feel free to find one of the many definitions and then proceed to support the claim that it doesn't meet it. With evidence.

The moral of the story is not to trust the Greeks.

The moral of the story is not to trust the Greeks.

Bravo?

Bravo?

Also the Greek credit rating(on sovereign debt) is lower the Poland and China.

only an A-2.

Also the Greek credit rating(on sovereign debt) is lower the Poland and China.

only an A-2.Hilariously irrelevant, particularly considering neither are developing countries.

The moral of the story is not to trust the Greeks.

Even if they give you presents.