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More common sense from Obama

Rambhutan
09-05-2009, 11:37
Seems Obama is going to take funding away from those ineffectual, and counter productive, abstinence only sex education programmes. His budget is going to redirect $138 million away from abstinence only programmes and into evidence based sex education. I am really pleased to see him continuing to strike blows for common sense.
SaintB
09-05-2009, 11:41
Seems Obama is going to take funding away from those ineffectual, and counter productive, abstinence only sex education programmes. His budget is going to redirect $138 million away from abstinence only programmes and into evidence based sex education. I am really pleased to see him continuing to strike blows for common sense.

Got a source? Its too early to celebrate.
Rambhutan
09-05-2009, 11:42
Got a source? Its too early to celebrate.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/08/obama-administration-abstinence-bristol-palin
SaintB
09-05-2009, 11:45
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/08/obama-administration-abstinence-bristol-palin

*breaks out the fuckin' bubbly!*
Kentreichora
09-05-2009, 11:45
Dun-dun-dun.

*Statement of generic nonsensical evangelical right-wing outrage*
Extreme Ironing
09-05-2009, 11:52
I love the sarcasm of McCain's daughter at the bottom of that article. :)

One of the biggest critics of old-style Republicanism is Meghan McCain, daughter of the party's 2008 presidential candidate John McCain. Joining the debate today, she wrote on the Daily Beast website: "Bristol Palin's new abstinence campaign shines a light on the Republican party's unhealthy attitude about sex and desire."

She added: "Daughters of Republican politicians aren't expected to have sex, let alone enjoy it - as if there were some strange chastity belt automatically attached to us female offspring. God forbid anyone talk realistically about life experiences and natural, sexual instincts. Nope, the answer is always abstinence."
SaintB
09-05-2009, 11:55
I love the sarcasm of McCain's daughter at the bottom of that article. :)

She just got herself written out of the will, mhmm...
Pure Metal
09-05-2009, 12:51
yay! america is getting its brain back!

lol "provide a range of services ... such as after school activities" ;)
No Names Left Damn It
09-05-2009, 13:37
Great. Obama's getting his act together.
The Romulan Republic
09-05-2009, 14:18
Great. Obama's getting his act together.

What's that supposed to mean, that he's suddenly doing things right because he's focussing on this one particular issue? Its not like he's done nothing the last three months.
The Black Forrest
09-05-2009, 16:20
Schweeeeeet!

I always hated that program and it tended to get added to aid programs to Africa.

Simple minded logic at it's best!

Hey just don't have sex and you won't get aids or pregnant!

"Liberals, meanwhile, highlighted congressional reports revealing that just-say-no programmes often peddled misinformation: that contraception is likely to fail, that abortion can lead to sterility or suicide, and that half of US gay males have tested positive for Aids."

Wow! Sounds like the wishful think of the Evangelicalo. 1/2 of gay males having aids. Serves them right for choosing to SIN! Now they can go to hell and listen to Barney tunes forever!
The Black Forrest
09-05-2009, 16:22
The McCain girl is starting to sound interesting. If her old man talked like that; Obama might have had a challenge.
Heikoku 2
09-05-2009, 16:29
Victory!
Dakini
09-05-2009, 16:37
I'm curious how fast he can undo (at least) eight years of stupidity.
Heikoku 2
09-05-2009, 16:39
I'm curious how fast he can undo (at least) eight years of stupidity.

So far, save for the economy (which takes time anyways), he's undoing quite a lot for five months.
Desperate Measures
09-05-2009, 17:24
I win!
Neo Art
09-05-2009, 17:50
Where's the CHANGE Obama?

...oh there it is. Right then, carry on.
Holy Paradise
09-05-2009, 17:55
Seems Obama is going to take funding away from those ineffectual, and counter productive, abstinence only sex education programmes. His budget is going to redirect $138 million away from abstinence only programmes and into evidence based sex education. I am really pleased to see him continuing to strike blows for common sense.

The best program is saying that "If you're going to have sex, you need to use a condom or some other form of contraceptive. They aren't 100% reliable, only abstinence assures that one does not become pregnant or get someone else pregnant, but not everyone is going to remain abstinent, so if you want to have sex, use protection."

I, personally, have chosen to remain abstinent until marriage (at which point I will just have sex with all women :tongue:), but I know not everyone is going the same route as me, so I'd rather people just were informed and protected themselves.
Holy Paradise
09-05-2009, 17:56
Where's the CHANGE Obama?

...oh there it is. Right then, carry on.

His social change has been good on some parts, bad on others (I'm against abortion except in extreme circumstances), but I haven't seen much economic policy change in the area of spending.
Neo Art
09-05-2009, 18:07
His social change has been good on some parts, bad on others (I'm against abortion except in extreme circumstances), but I haven't seen much economic policy change in the area of spending.

If you're under the rather nonsensical dillusion that money spent is money spent, and it doesn't matter where how or why, then yes, the Obama administration is a lot like the Bush administration in the general sense of "they both spent a lot of money".

If however you have more than a, let's say, grade school level understanding of economics, and understood that the question of "if" is sometimes equally, or indeed less important then the questions of "where" "why" and "how"

And in that regard, Obama's policies regarding to where how and why money is being spent is radically different than President Bush's
Holy Paradise
09-05-2009, 18:09
If you're under the rather nonsensical dillusion that money spent is money spent, and it doesn't matter where how or why, then yes, the Obama administration is a lot like the Bush administration in the general sense of "they both spent a lot of money".

If however you have more than a, let's say, grade school level understanding of economics, and understood that the question of "if" is sometimes equally, or indeed less important then the questions of "where" "why" and "how"

And in that regard, Obama's policies regarding to where how and why money is being spent is radically different than President Bush's

Yes, I do understand that Obama's spending is much more focused on the area of social spending, whereas Bush's spending was more focused on the area of defense spending, but really, I'm just sick of spending in general.

I want it all cut back. Defense spending, social spending.

If you want to create a separate topic for this, that's fine, but I don't want to jack this thread.
No Names Left Damn It
09-05-2009, 18:09
Where's the CHANGE Obama?

...oh there it is. Right then, carry on.

That's joke's old and unfunny.
Neo Art
09-05-2009, 18:11
That's joke's old and unfunny.

oh no, some random internet wanker thinks I'm not funny. What ever shall I do?
Holy Paradise
09-05-2009, 18:16
oh no, some random internet wanker thinks I'm not funny. What ever shall I do?

:eek: I don't know...I just don't know. I will comfort you in this time of hardship for you. :p
Neo Art
09-05-2009, 18:16
Yes, I do understand that Obama's spending is much more focused on the area of social spending, whereas Bush's spending was more focused on the area of defense spending, but really, I'm just sick of spending in general.

I want it all cut back. Defense spending, social spending.

That's....very nice, but that's not what you said. What you did say was:

but I haven't seen much economic policy change in the area of spending.

Which you now admit isn't true. Now, you're allowed to not like his policies. You're allowed to disagree with them. What you can't do (or at least shouldn't do if you're at all interested in intellectual honesty) is try to argue that "I don't like what he's doing" means "he's not doing anything"
Holy Paradise
09-05-2009, 18:18
That's....very nice, but that's not what you said. What you did say was:



Which you now admit isn't true. Now, you're allowed to not like his policies. You're allowed to disagree with them. What you can't do (or at least shouldn't do if you're at all interested in intellectual honesty) is try to argue that "I don't like what he's doing" means "he's not doing anything"

Hmm...good point.

Damn, I always contradict myself. How do I master logic? :headbang:
Skallvia
09-05-2009, 18:22
But...bu-but...Now kids'll be having sex, :(
Poliwanacraca
09-05-2009, 18:22
Man, I'm enjoying this administration. It's like with almost every passing day, my country sucks a little less. :)
Holy Paradise
09-05-2009, 18:23
But...bu-but...Now kids'll be having sex, :(
:eek:
No! That never happened before! We have to stop this!
Skallvia
09-05-2009, 18:28
:eek:
No! That never happened before! We have to stop this!

Indeed, I say we get a strike force going!

http://filipspagnoli.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/lysistrata.jpg
Holy Paradise
09-05-2009, 18:29
Indeed, I say we get a strike force going!

http://filipspagnoli.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/lysistrata.jpg

Chastity Force!
Wilgrove
09-05-2009, 18:37
Yay for Obama!
Svalbardania
10-05-2009, 01:30
Keep on truckin', Obama. I've never had this experience before, where I see America as getting better in some ways, not just worse in every way. This is a new sensation for me. I'm all tingly.
Wilgrove
10-05-2009, 02:43
Keep on truckin', Obama. I've never had this experience before, where I see America as getting better in some ways, not just worse in every way. This is a new sensation for me. I'm all tingly.

Don't forget to use a tissue.
The Parkus Empire
10-05-2009, 02:51
I can finally say: "America, fuck yeah!"
Lunatic Goofballs
10-05-2009, 02:57
I can finally say: "America, fuck yeah!"

Apparently. :)
Dragontide
10-05-2009, 15:13
I'm curious how fast he can undo (at least) eight years of stupidity.

Was is actually stupidity? Or an elaborate guise in hopes of him relying on "Oops" if he gets dragged into court?
Johnny B Goode
10-05-2009, 16:03
I can finally say: "America, fuck yeah!"

So it would seem.
Risottia
10-05-2009, 16:08
Seems Obama is going to take funding away from those ineffectual, and counter productive, abstinence only sex education programmes. His budget is going to redirect $138 million away from abstinence only programmes and into evidence based sex education. I am really pleased to see him continuing to strike blows for common sense.

Common sense is quite revolutionary. Another good point for O'Bama.


(OMG COMMIE DARKIE PREZ, think of the children, aieee dark path of sin, Fort Sumter etc etc etc...)
Conserative Morality
10-05-2009, 21:00
Eh, nice touch, but more symbolic, it would seem. Just a few million in the big scheme of things, and the Conservative states will probably still be funding this.
Fnordgasm 5
10-05-2009, 22:28
Indeed, I say we get a strike force going!

http://filipspagnoli.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/lysistrata.jpg

That's Hawt!