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Hello all. I prefer to be known as C.L. I am an agrarian socialist, which is a brand of socialism focused on decentralization and community-based action rather than centralized government attending to the wants and needs of the elite. I don't know what else to tell you, to be honest, other than I'm a political junkie and this is my porn. Kind of sad, but we all have our passions.

Welcome! Just keep in mind that attempts at socialism often drift rather deeply into authoritarian...

Fresh meat!

Ah, a new arrival. *Hotel California*

I am an agrarian socialist, which is a brand of socialism focused on decentralization and community-based action rather than centralized government attending to the wants and needs of the elite.

Isn't a centrally planned economy a key facet of socialism, though? How do you do that and embrace decentralization? Plus, what happens when/if your society moves from agrarian to industrialized?

I don't know what else to tell you, to be honest, other than I'm a political junkie and this is my porn.

You typed that sentence with one hand, didn't you? Sticky keyboards make The Baby Jesus cry, you know.

Isn't a centrally planned economy a key facet of socialism, though? How do you do that and embrace decentralization? Plus, what happens when/if your society moves from agrarian to industrialized?



You typed that sentence with one hand, didn't you? Sticky keyboards make The Baby Jesus cry, you know.

A planned economy is an essential component of socialism, in the broadest sense of the word. But the situation in, say, the state of Arizona might be different than the state of New York. While the people might vote in favor of an economic plan for the federal government to implement (as I am a proponent of direct democracy), the states can take even stronger steps to help their economies through proposals of their own. What works in Arizona might not work in New York. This is why I reject the notion of a one world government: It would be impractical. The situation in the U.S. is totally different than the situation in Africa or Australia, etc., etc.

Isn't a centrally planned economy a key facet of socialism, though?

of course not

Isn't a centrally planned economy a key facet of socialism, though? How do you do that and embrace decentralization? Plus, what happens when/if your society moves from agrarian to industrialized?

To move from agrarian to industrialized just add gulags, brutal purges, and a paranoid moustachioed Georgian. Serve cold with a bottle of vodka.

what is it with all the newbs making hello threads. Someone make that a bannable offense.

While the people might vote in favor of an economic plan for the federal government to implement (as I am a proponent of direct democracy), the states can take even stronger steps to help their economies through proposals of their own.

Isn't what you describe there, the exact opposite of a centrally planned economy, though? If the states are allowed to go their own way, even if only to a certain extent, wouldn't that throw off the central planners? Plus, I think direct democracy might prove to be impractical in a large population.

of course not

Oh, I see, well, I'm glad you cleared that up. "Argument is more than the mere automatic gainsaying of the other person's statement, you know." - Michael Palin.

"Argument is more than the mere automatic gainsaying of the other person's statement, you know." - Michael Palin.

Look, if you want me to argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.

Look, if you want me to argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.

But an argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition. That's not just saying "No it isn't".

Hello all. I prefer to be known as C.L. I am an agrarian socialist, which is a brand of socialism focused on decentralization and community-based action rather than centralized government attending to the wants and needs of the elite. I don't know what else to tell you, to be honest, other than I'm a political junkie and this is my porn. Kind of sad, but we all have our passions.

So you're a socialist then. :p

But an argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition. That's not just saying "No it isn't".

I'm sorry, if you want this to continue, it'll be another 5 quid.

*stabs with sharpened spoon*

Welcome to the Jungle.

I'm sorry, if you want this to continue, it'll be another 5 quid.

*narrows eyes*

I ain't falling for that again.

EDIT: Oh, right. Welcome, fellow socialist!

I said hello on your other thread, but hello again.

Hi I'm Call to Power and I think your in the wrong place if you want to discuss politics :p

don't forget to pay attention to the intro to NSG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8s2BGKuPxQ&feature=related) (the mods have yet to sticky it for some reason)

I prefer to be known as C.L.

er...*hands name tag cus I'm never gonna remember that*

to be honest, other than I'm a political junkie and this is my porn. Kind of sad, but we all have our passions.

you'll grow out of it :)

what is it with all the newbs making hello threads. Someone make that a bannable offense.

STFU noob.

STFU noob.

STFU noob.

Hello all. I prefer to be known as C.L. I am an agrarian socialist, which is a brand of socialism focused on decentralization and community-based action rather than centralized government attending to the wants and needs of the elite. I don't know what else to tell you, to be honest, other than I'm a political junkie and this is my porn. Kind of sad, but we all have our passions.

Why is it suddenly fashionable to start introduction threads (we don't care who you are yet, sorry), and/or inform us how you wish to be addressed (we don't care, sorry)?

STFU noob.

Lol, nicely done.

what is it with all the newbs making hello threads. Someone make that a bannable offense.

Hardly. These threads allow the more reasonable newbs to make a good impression on us, and allow us to make them feel more welcome.

Why is it suddenly fashionable to start introduction threads (we don't care who you are yet, sorry), and/or inform us how you wish to be addressed (we don't care, sorry)?

Don't feel bad Neesika that you have fallen out of the fashion loop. Hell I want to start up a new account just so I can be apart of this trend.

As to the OP, welcome to NSG AS, you will never leave.

you will never leave.

Truth.

Truth.

The only way out is suicide by mod.

You know...we haven't had a good suicide by mod lately...

The only way out is suicide by mod.

You know...we haven't had a good suicide by mod lately...

Could you show AS how to do it? :tongue:

Hardly. These threads allow the more reasonable newbs to make a good impression on us, and allow us to make them feel more welcome.
Neither gun smiley first posts or 'hey I'm new, um, hi guys' posts are going to make a good impression on us. They need to sink or swim, dive right in, get into the thick of it etc. Only then do we figure out if they are douchebags, douchenozzles, or douchesolutions.
Don't feel bad Neesika that you have fallen out of the fashion loop. Hell I want to start up a new account just so I can be apart of this trend.


I'm pretty sure my first post was snarkily political, and one of my first threads was spammed with dead baby jokes by Drunk Commies. Try that, n00bs!

Isn't a centrally planned economy a key facet of socialism, though?

Some kinds, yes. But said kinds are not considered "socialism" by many people on the left, and the majority of left-wing NSGers do not subscribe to these kinds.

Neither gun smiley first posts or 'hey I'm new, um, hi guys' posts are going to make a good impression on us. They need to sink or swim, dive right in, get into the thick of it etc. Only then do we figure out if they are douchebags, douchenozzles, or douchesolutions.

Nothing wrong with gun smilies.

I declare war on NSG.

:gundge::gundge::gundge::gundge:


:p

I'm pretty sure my first post was snarkily political, and one of my first threads was spammed with dead baby jokes by Drunk Commies. Try that, n00bs!

You always have to one up the rest of us. :)

You always have to one up the rest of us. :)

Yes, yes I do.

Could you show AS how to do it? :tongue:

I will. (Mods, please note, this is only an example.)

"FUCK YOU ALL SHITHEAD BITCH PIGFUCK ASSWIPE BASTARD FUCKTARDS EAT SHIT AND DIE FUCK YOU MODS FUCK YOU ALL FUCK FUCK FUCK SHIT PISS SHIT FUCK PISS FUCK YOU GUYS YOU ALL SUCK"

I will. (Mods, please note, this is only an example.)

"FUCK YOU ALL SHITHEAD BITCH PIGFUCK ASSWIPE BASTARD FUCKTARDS EAT SHIT AND DIE FUCK YOU MODS FUCK YOU ALL FUCK FUCK FUCK SHIT PISS SHIT FUCK PISS FUCK YOU GUYS YOU ALL SUCK"

*gets popcorn and beer*

This should be awesome.

*infects newcomer*

*gets popcorn and beer*

This should be awesome.

It was only an example. Hint: Gun smileys, explicit photos, and ethnic slurs "help," too. :p

I will. (Mods, please note, this is only an example.)

"FUCK YOU ALL SHITHEAD BITCH PIGFUCK ASSWIPE BASTARD FUCKTARDS EAT SHIT AND DIE FUCK YOU MODS FUCK YOU ALL FUCK FUCK FUCK SHIT PISS SHIT FUCK PISS FUCK YOU GUYS YOU ALL SUCK"

You forgot to say that the mods are all fucking retards who don't know shit.

I will. (Mods, please note, this is only an example.)

"FUCK YOU ALL SHITHEAD BITCH PIGFUCK ASSWIPE BASTARD FUCKTARDS EAT SHIT AND DIE FUCK YOU MODS FUCK YOU ALL FUCK FUCK FUCK SHIT PISS SHIT FUCK PISS FUCK YOU GUYS YOU ALL SUCK"Go on, you can do better than that.

You forgot to say that the mods are all fucking retards who don't know shit.

Let's not go overboard. :p

Go on, you can do better than that.

I don't dare. :tongue: