NationStates Jolt Archive


New Forum

Jello Biafra
01-05-2009, 18:30
So, what do you all think of the new forum?
What? You didn't know there was a new forum? Just go to www.nationstates.net and see.
Pure Metal
01-05-2009, 18:38
that's so wrong! the colours are all..... green *vomits*
Brutland and Norden
01-05-2009, 18:41
that's so wrong! the colours are all..... green *vomits*
Better green than pink. :p
Psychotic Mongooses
01-05-2009, 18:43
The....hell?!

*bleugh*
Poliwanacraca
01-05-2009, 18:46
Uggerly.
Kryozerkia
01-05-2009, 18:47
It's in beta, so it's not entirely perfect. Once we've tested to see if it can handle the demands of the forum, then cosmetic changes will come. The end product will be different. We're mainly concerned with ensuring that it will stay up.
Poliwanacraca
01-05-2009, 18:49
It's in beta, so it's not entirely perfect. Once we've tested to see if it can handle the demands of the forum, then cosmetic changes will come. The end product will be different. We're mainly concerned with ensuring that it will stay up.

Fair 'nuff.

I would personally be a fan of making it look as much like the current forum as possible, since that's what we're all used to. :)
Dragontide
01-05-2009, 18:49
Why a new site instead of just staying here?
The Parkus Empire
01-05-2009, 18:51
Why a new site instead of just staying here?

I believe we are not supposed to talk about that on this forum.
Kryozerkia
01-05-2009, 18:52
Why a new site instead of just staying here?

Because Jolt is too much like a nanny state...
Brutland and Norden
01-05-2009, 18:53
Why a new site instead of just staying here?
Because the new site is NationStates' own site. This one is jolt's. Technically, we are just here because jolt allows us to stay... we are just houseguests, so to speak. :p
The Parkus Empire
01-05-2009, 18:53
Because Jolt is too much like a nanny state...

Whoa! Do you mean the new forum is going to have tighter control (referring to what is now unsaid)?
Hydesland
01-05-2009, 18:55
Erm... why?
Chumblywumbly
01-05-2009, 18:56
It's got some interesting features, and it'll probably encourage me to actually check my issues once in a while, what with a linky to them being on the sidebar.

Good stuff, folks. Let's hope it handles the load.


Erm... why?
Because Jolt's under no obligation to keep this board up and running.
Dragontide
01-05-2009, 18:57
Because Jolt is too much like a nanny state...

Ahhh. Will there be a "big switch"? Any target dates planned?
Hydesland
01-05-2009, 18:59
Because Jolt's under no obligation to keep this board up and running.

I see. Well I can't see that forum ever becoming popular, unless this one goes. Otherwise it's pointless.
Brutland and Norden
01-05-2009, 19:00
Ahhh. Will there be a "big switch"? Any target dates planned?
No, not really.

About the forum (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=101)
Getbrett
01-05-2009, 19:01
I see. Well I can't see that forum ever becoming popular, unless this one goes. Otherwise it's pointless.

This one is going. Nationstates is no longer attached to Jolt, Max has been working on alternative forum arrangements in the meantime.
Psychotic Mongooses
01-05-2009, 19:03
But...but...but...but... my post count *sniff*
Hydesland
01-05-2009, 19:04
This one is going. Nationstates is no longer attached to Jolt, Max has been working on alternative forum arrangements in the meantime.

Yeah but as I said, we are like 2 thirds of the people that visit the jolt forums, so I doubt they're going to drop us any time soon. In the mean time, I like to say that I have contributed my part to that new forum for now. :p
Dumb Ideologies
01-05-2009, 19:04
When that forum becomes the only one we can use, I don't think I'll be posting any more. I don't like the layout, I don't like the colour, I don't like the lack of ability to choose a separate avatar to your flag, and for some reason looking at it for more than five minutes invariably gives me a headache.

Not to say that any of the features described are actually bad. I'm just a very change-averse and slightly obsessive sort of person. You could make it the flashiest forum known to man and have a built-in giant space laser that evaporates any poster who trolls and I'd still probably hate it.
Dragontide
01-05-2009, 19:07
No, not really.

About the forum (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=101)

Ahh Thank you!
From the link:
The Jolt forum isn't going anywhere. Even if our new forum survives this load test, the old one will remain, and you can move between the two as you wish.

I hope it all works out.
Hydesland
01-05-2009, 19:10
They locked the first ever spam thread already? Boooo! Nanny state etc... rabble rabble
No Names Left Damn It
01-05-2009, 19:13
Will infractions etc pass over?
Hydesland
01-05-2009, 19:16
So not only have I created the first ever spam thread, had the first ever thread locked, but I've also been the first member ever to be warned on that forum. Is that an achievement, or does that make me a giant douche? :D At least I let the mods test out their new mod skillz.
Brutland and Norden
01-05-2009, 19:16
But...but...but...but... my post count *sniff*
Haha! Yay for equality! :p

When that forum becomes the only one we can use, I don't think I'll be posting any more. I don't like the layout, I don't like the colour, I don't like the lack of ability to choose a separate avatar to your flag, and for some reason looking at it for more than five minutes invariably gives me a headache.
That can be changed. It's still in beta.
Brutland and Norden
01-05-2009, 19:16
Will infractions etc pass over?
Perhaps. Getting banned on that forum means you'll be banned here too.
Pure Metal
01-05-2009, 19:20
Better green than pink. :p

not by a bloody lot :p
Call to power
01-05-2009, 19:23
Will infractions etc pass over?

yeah binary guy got deleted pretty quick and the mods seem a bit stressed atm so ban hammers away
Hydesland
01-05-2009, 19:25
yeah binary guy got deleted pretty quick and the mods seem a bit stressed atm so ban hammers away

Binary guy?
Brutland and Norden
01-05-2009, 19:26
binary guy?
1010102.
Hydesland
01-05-2009, 19:27
1010102.

He got deleted? For what?
No Names Left Damn It
01-05-2009, 19:31
have a built-in giant space laser that evaporates any poster who trolls and I'd still probably hate it.

That's because you'd be evaporated in an instant.
Kryozerkia
01-05-2009, 19:31
So not only have I created the first ever spam thread, had the first ever thread locked, but I've also been the first member ever to be warned on that forum. Is that an achievement, or does that make me a giant douche? :D At least I let the mods test out their new mod skillz.

Sorry, you're only the second to get warned.

He got deleted? For what?

Image spam. I wasn't there, but I know another mod found and wasn't pleased.

Oh and for my "unsaid" comment... it just means that the mods have more control and don't have to rely on jolt in order to get something done.
Brutland and Norden
01-05-2009, 19:31
He got deleted? For what?
AFAIK, it's because of the pic spam. Stretching the forums with big pictures.
The Parkus Empire
01-05-2009, 19:32
Image spam. I wasn't there, but I know another mod found and wasn't pleased.

Were they...explicit?
Psychotic Mongooses
01-05-2009, 19:33
Maybe it's just my browser settings or something, but the text size is hard on the ol' eyes in the new forum.

I'll just stay here sitting on my porch, guarding my lawn from youngins'.

Edit: Hmmm. Might just be the colour....
Kryozerkia
01-05-2009, 19:33
Were they...explicit?

I don't know. I wasn't there, just that it was spam and it was overkill.
Dumb Ideologies
01-05-2009, 19:34
That's because you'd be evaporated in an instant.

What? Me? I'm nothing but a joyful bundle of innocent and inoffensive fun ^_^
The Parkus Empire
01-05-2009, 19:34
I don't know. I wasn't there, just that it was spam and it was overkill.

I am guessing the pictures were pretty damned large to warrant a deletion.
Hydesland
01-05-2009, 19:37
Sorry, you're only the second to get warned.


What? RAAAAGGE!! Did I do anything that was a first ever?


Image spam. I wasn't there, but I know another mod found and wasn't pleased.

I think deletion is overkill.
Call to power
01-05-2009, 19:37
Oh and for my "unsaid" comment... it just means that the mods have more control and don't have to rely on jolt in order to get something done.

:eek2:

I am a big girl beep bop boo harvest children's brains for the glory of the father beep beep

Were they...explicit?

iirc he tried posting loads of kill it with fire images but the forum cuts images for some reason so he posted another and it made it all vertical
The Parkus Empire
01-05-2009, 19:39
iirc he tried posting loads of kill it with fire images but the forum cuts images for some reason so he posted another and it made it all vertical

They cut images?
Mirkana
01-05-2009, 19:40
If we do abandon this forum, I say we go out with a bang - ie a cavalcade of spam on every subforum we can post to.

Just kidding... or am I?
Call to power
01-05-2009, 19:44
They cut images?

yeah so you can't break the thread I guess

If we do abandon this forum, I say we go out with a bang - ie a cavalcade of spam on every subforum we can post to.

Just kidding... or am I?

I say we make our forum with blackjack and hookers...or maybe we will all get lives!
Dragontide
01-05-2009, 19:44
I made a couple of posts. Do I have to play the game to continue to post?
Dalmatia Cisalpina
01-05-2009, 19:44
Cool. Time to see if using the forum causes it to crash ...
Holy Cheese and Shoes
01-05-2009, 19:49
ffs i can barely keep track of posts on ONE forum, now there's two....
The Parkus Empire
01-05-2009, 19:52
yeah so you can't break the thread I guess

Wait...so how did the image-spam offense work, again?
Hydesland
01-05-2009, 19:55
Wait...so how did the image-spam offense work, again?

I'm guessing he posted a super massive picture, which is too big for the box that posts are inside of, which causes the thread to look all weird, hence breaking the page. It's an offence, but I wouldn't say a DEATable one.
Call to power
01-05-2009, 19:59
Wait...so how did the image-spam offense work, again?

did it too many times and managed to bork the forum with a bunny pic by making it super loooong

edit: long going down that is
The Parkus Empire
01-05-2009, 20:02
did it too many times and managed to bork the forum with a bunny pic by making it super loooong

edit: long going down that is

The link to the picture was long?
The Parkus Empire
01-05-2009, 20:03
I'm guessing he posted a super massive picture, which is too big for the box that posts are inside of, which causes the thread to look all weird, hence breaking the page. It's an offence, but I wouldn't say a DEATable one.

Rather Draconian.
Call to power
01-05-2009, 20:15
I crashed the server twice trying to start a wallpaper thread and now there are image limits

*feels I have achieved something today*

The link to the picture was long?

the picture itself was, think longcat looong as in it went vertical down
The Parkus Empire
01-05-2009, 20:17
the picture itself was, think longcat looong as in it went vertical down

I take it this was before images were cut, then?
Imperial isa
01-05-2009, 20:48
think 1010102. record was counted into the passing
Gravlen
01-05-2009, 21:00
But...but...but...but... my post count *sniff*

It's so small anyway -_-
Poliwanacraca
01-05-2009, 21:04
But...but...but...but... my post count *sniff*

I wonder if postcounts/join dates could be transferred? It seems a shame to lose all the information about who showed up when and how chatty they were. :p
Nodinia
01-05-2009, 21:06
We're mainly concerned with ensuring that it will stay up.

It can get like that allright....
Saige Dragon
01-05-2009, 21:21
Ha, silly RPers, everybody know General will always be the cesspool of NS.
Skallvia
01-05-2009, 21:24
um...I dont think it worked on me, It just sent me to my Nation Page...:confused:

Nevermind, I found it, lol...

Yeah...I think i like this one...But, its nice theyre working on a backup, I had heard a rumour that Jolt might spontaneously shut us down or something, lol...
Jello Biafra
01-05-2009, 21:25
um...I dont think it worked on me, It just sent me to my Nation Page...:confused:You need to log into your nation to be able to post on the forum.
Psychotic Mongooses
02-05-2009, 00:52
It's so small anyway -_-

Ooooooohhhhh.

Just.... why.... you.....

Just wait til I get a comeback!

*shakes tiny fist in impotent rage*
Gravlen
02-05-2009, 10:01
Ooooooohhhhh.

Just.... why.... you.....

Just wait til I get a comeback!

*shakes tiny fist in impotent rage*

It's not the size of the fist, it's how you use it? ;)
Ring of Isengard
02-05-2009, 11:51
*Dazed and Confused*
Tsaraine
02-05-2009, 12:05
Psychotic Mongooses: In the new forum, right up the top right hand side of the index page is a little green thing that looks like "^A^" except the first pointy thing points down, I don't know how to make it do that here. Click on that and you can change the font size.

On the 1010102 thing; the new forums have a maximum width for images that you can post, IIRC it is 800 pixels. 1010102 was upset by this - he felt that this was "oppressing his right to be obnoxious", and that's verbatim - and tried to image spam by posting multiple image macros all saying the same thing. For some reason he didn't think he'd have to suffer the consequences of being an idiot. He was misinformed. :P

We hope you guys will at least give it a whirl and try it out - we're pretty pleased with how it's going so far, and we want you to like it. And all you people complaining about how ugly it is are making me chuckle - I remember how people complained about it being ugly when we switched to these ones, way back in 2004. :D

But if you don't like it, that's also allowed (although it makes Baby Jesus cry). We won't forumban you for criticizing us. :)
Naturality
02-05-2009, 12:06
It's not bad.
Romanar
02-05-2009, 12:13
So far, I like it. And it's always good to have more than one egg-basket. :)
Yootopia
02-05-2009, 15:11
Ha, silly RPers, everybody know General will always be the cesspool of NS.
Personally I reckon RP is full of dreadful hack writers and that it's the worst bit of the NS forums, BUT THATS JUST ME OK.
Big Jim P
02-05-2009, 15:21
NS has its own forum again. The circle is complete.
Dyakovo
02-05-2009, 15:32
I wonder if postcounts/join dates could be transferred? It seems a shame to lose all the information about who showed up when and how chatty they were. :p

/\ This /\
Dakini
02-05-2009, 15:33
I wonder if postcounts/join dates could be transferred? It seems a shame to lose all the information about who showed up when and how chatty they were. :p
Join dates are mostly transferred. Except if you've been around forever, then your nation is founded in Antiquity so it's only sort of there. Post counts do not remain. I know this because I tested it.
Tsaraine
02-05-2009, 15:38
The date the new forums display is the date your nation was founded, which we started recording ... a while ago, I forget when. But some old fogies were founded before then, so we don't have that information, so those nations are founded "in antiquity".

The date the Jolt forums display, however, is the date you joined the forums. So if you created your nation and logged into the forums on the same day, they'd be the same date. But if you didn't bother joining the forums for a while, they'd be different.

The decision to display the nation founding date was made because we're trying to provide an integrated whole, as opposed to a game with a forum tacked onto the side of it (like this place).
Jordaxia
02-05-2009, 15:45
Personally I reckon RP is full of dreadful hack writers and that it's the worst bit of the NS forums, BUT THATS JUST ME OK.

it's true - even I'm not that good of a writer, but some of the stuff there makes my inner elitist shrivel up and cry tears of blood.
Tsaraine
02-05-2009, 15:47
Eh. There's good and bad writers, just as there's good and bad debaters. You RP with the people you want to RP with and don't pay much attention to the rest.
Free Soviets
02-05-2009, 16:15
The date the new forums display is the date your nation was founded, which we started recording ... a while ago, I forget when. But some old fogies were founded before then, so we don't have that information, so those nations are founded "in antiquity".

haha, aww, my nation's founding date over there is 5 years later than it actually was. i assume it reset itself to the time i forgot to log in for too long.
Tsaraine
02-05-2009, 16:37
Yeah, I'm pretty sure if you were originally founded in Antiquity but you died and were rezzed after that it gives the date of your resurrection rather than the date of your creation.
Neesika
02-05-2009, 17:36
I've been trying for at least an hour, and no matter what, I cannot see past the first page of this thread, and only this thread. wtf!? The pages past page 1 simply won't finish loading. Well they say they're 'done'. Hopefully posting something will at least let me see the last page.
Ring of Isengard
02-05-2009, 17:38
I've been trying for at least an hour, and no matter what, I cannot see past the first page of this thread, and only this thread. wtf!? The pages past page 1 simply won't finish loading. Well they say they're 'done'. Hopefully posting something will at least let me see the last page.

Can you see it?