NationStates Jolt Archive

It is still forbidden to say 'f*cking brilliant' on American TV shows.

FOX Television Network, ABC, CBS and NBC had denied that the government has the legal right to fine $325,000 (or less) for swearing during live broadcasts.

I don't understand this. You can show pretty a lot of violence on TV, but swearing is undone? Why?


http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/04/28/supreme.court.indecent.speech/

Violence is okay for Americans and helps our problem solving skills. Swearing however makes us disrespect our elders.

I really don't see what people's problem is with swearing. OK, using it too often just gets tedious, but really, it's just words. Not a massive problem.

Fuck! :(

Odd cultural values is it, pretty much. For the same reason that it is apparently absolutely abhorrent to flash a titty on tv, but totally cool to virtually show disembowelment.

Fuck! :(

Pay me 100,000 dollars.

Actually, the question was more about whether or not the FCC had the procedural authority to change the rule, and it wasn't about the legality of the rule. That'll be a whole new can of worms.

Violence is okay for Americans and helps our problem solving skills. Swearing however makes us disrespect our elders.

Absolutely. :tongue: We have decency and morals over here, not like Europe where all the thousands of years of corruption and decadence have destroyed the very fibre of their being. We preserve our precious bodily fluids by not allowing our auditory senses to be disturbed by vile noises.

The majority opinion said simply "Fuck your First Amendment!".

The majority opinion said simply "Fuck your First Amendment!".

the basis for restrictions on broadcast is that the government owns the frequencies used to broad cast. Indeed if they didn't it would be a a chaotic mess as people would compete over prime channels by building larger more power towers to overwhelm others.

Pay me 100,000 dollars.

Fuck you. ;)

By instance, if there was a market for, you could have a Nazi Show on American TV.

A show loaded with racist stupidity and so on...

But don't say 'f*ck' or you could harm the poor children.

I really don't get this.

In Europe, the Nazi Show, would be not possible, but you can f*ck around as much as you want.

I was once permbanned on some American forum, just because I used 'Phuk Joe' as my name. :)

the basis for restrictions on broadcast is that the government owns the frequencies used to broad cast. Indeed if they didn't it would be a a chaotic mess as people would compete over prime channels by building larger more power towers to overwhelm others.

Which has what to do with indecency? The whole indecency shit is the FCC overstepping it's authority. Apparently the Court disagrees with me though.

Actually, the question was more about whether or not the FCC had the procedural authority to change the rule, and it wasn't about the legality of the rule. That'll be a whole new can of worms.
One which really needs to be opened. I'm tired of censorship.

Which has what to do with indecency? The whole indecency shit is the FCC overstepping it's authority. Apparently the Court disagrees with me though.

If it is federally owned it can be federally regulated.

Same way you could throw someone out of your house for saying something that offends you.

Fuck you. ;)

fined another 100,000 dollars.

Fuck! :(
You are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.
Fuck you. ;)
Your repeated violation of the Verbal Morality Statute has caused me to notify the Morality Police Department. Please remain where you are for your reprimand.

the basis for restrictions on broadcast is that the government owns the frequencies used to broad cast. Indeed if they didn't it would be a a chaotic mess as people would compete over prime channels by building larger more power towers to overwhelm others.
Actually, that wouldn't work.

If they used primitive amplitude modulation, neither of the stations would produce a viewable broadcast, even with a significant disparity in power, so they'd have to create an industry self-regulation body, like all of the industries that predate governments did.

If they used modern modulation methods - and by modern, I mean ones invented in 1950s and adopted in 1960s, as opposed to 1920-1930s as above - then the TV sets on the market would be easily capable of switching between multiple channels on the same frequency.

Is it too late to copyright 'Fuck You!' ? :)

This is what you get when you use a Magic 8 Ball to write your ethics guidelines.
"Should nudity be allowed all knowing Magic 8 Ball?" shake* "Definitely Not"
"Should extreme Violence and drugs be allowed?" shake* "The more the better"
"Should cursing be allowed" shake* "Sometimes"

The majority opinion said simply "Fuck your First Amendment!".

The majority opinion had nothing at all to do with the First Amendment. At least according to the posted article, it was a matter of statutory interpretation with respect to "indecent speech."

I don't understand this. You can show pretty a lot of violence on TV, but swearing is undone? Why?


Are you aware regarding the difference between fantasy and reality?

FYI..
http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2007/02/8876.ars

I really don't see what people's problem is with swearing. OK, using it too often just gets tedious, but really, it's just words. Not a massive problem.

Don't you know? If the words of curse are spoken too many times in a short period, the dragon Geldon is summoned and the bubonic plague returns.

I really don't see what people's problem is with swearing. OK, using it too often just gets tedious, but really, it's just words. Not a massive problem.
here's your answer in one word:

DEADWOOD

Actually, that wouldn't work.

If they used primitive amplitude modulation, neither of the stations would produce a viewable broadcast, even with a significant disparity in power, so they'd have to create an industry self-regulation body, like all of the industries that predate governments did.

If they used modern modulation methods - and by modern, I mean ones invented in 1950s and adopted in 1960s, as opposed to 1920-1930s as above - then the TV sets on the market would be easily capable of switching between multiple channels on the same frequency.

I think they use vestigial sideband modulation for the video, along with frequency modulation for the sound.(with the exception of France that uses AM for the sound)


By modern modulation I assume you mean something along the lines of phase shift keying.

By modern modulation I assume you mean something along the lines of phase shift keying.
Primarily phase and code modulation methods (including PSK), although we have a number of techniques today.

The point is, if all today's stations, from the smallest ones to HD ones, kept using 50's technologies, they would be still far from taking 1% of the easily available frequency spectrum.

With more modern modulation, even if every person on Earth was running a thousand TV stations, we'd be nowhere near taking even a millionth of the available spectrum.

It's an infinite resource, and the supply grows and will keep growing faster than the demand can.

Pay me 100,000 dollars.

fined another 100,000 dollars.

Psst! This isn't TV.

Also, show me your FCC credential.

Psst! This isn't TV.

Also, show me your FCC credential.

certainly.
*pulls out brief case*
*Beats you over the head with Brief case.*
enough credentials for you ??

certainly.
*pulls out brief case*
*Beats you over the head with Brief case.*
enough credentials for you ??

Seeing as how you missed (and swung like a drunken girl), no.

(See? I can make up stupid shit, too.)

Wait....people expected Logic to trump needless morality laws...


Some people are just too gullible, :(

You are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.

Your repeated violation of the Verbal Morality Statute has caused me to notify the Morality Police Department. Please remain where you are for your reprimand.

Shit. :(

Wait....people expected Logic to trump needless morality laws...


Some people are just too gullible, :(

Especially given the loadout of the supreme court where 4 of the people have delusions of grandeur believing that their opinion is above that of the Constitution.

Especially given the loadout of the supreme court where 4 of the people have delusions of grandeur believing that their opinion is above that of the Constitution.

By the Constitution the opinion of those 4 +1, is the Constitution.

The majority opinion said simply "Fuck your First Amendment!".

This is one of those goddamn "grey" areas in law and culture. In the past, someone thought they'd push the envelope on what was decent and proper in public. The First Amendment was enacted for free political speech. The framers of the Constitution, unfortunately, didn't expect the current modern degeneration.