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I have to admit I like country music but this pile of shite is just too much

I hear people saying we don't need this war
I say there's some things worth fighting for

Agreed
What about our freedom and this piece of ground?
We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down

So far so good and I'm loving it

They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in

Well didn't that turn out to be the damn truth?
Before you start preaching
Let me ask you this my friend

Ah, you call it preaching when someone presents and opposing viewpoint right after you get done preaching that they have to believe in Jesus Christ as their personal lord and savior or they will burn in hell.

CHORUS 1
Have you forgotten how it felt that day

Not at all. I lost two friends working for Cantor Fitzgerald that day and others in the ensuing wars we fought.

To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away?
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside
Going through a living hell

See above. I lost that day and put my life in the line while losing others.

And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout Bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

No, no, and double fuck no. There may have been some idiot somewhere that made this claim but no one I ever heard. Actually, the argument was "hey, you're forgetting about Bin Laden by going into Iraq. Keep your eye on the true prize."

They took all the footage off my T.V.
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it every day

Right, because anger tends to get in the way of rational thinking and problem solving. If we had footage all day every day we could walk around angry, depressed, and looking for the quickest fix of Toby Keith.your albums we could get. There you can anger us about all sorts of stuff we've been letting just pass on by.

Some say this country's just out looking for a fight
After 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right

Right, so go to the bar and beat the piss out of the local drunk because your wife said she's having an affair.

CHORUS 1
Have you forgotten how it felt that day
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away?
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside
Going through a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout Bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Still no

I've been there with the soldiers
Who've gone away to war
And you can bet they remember
Just what they're fighting for

Me too. They are fighting to make it home alive in one piece.

CHORUS 2
Have you forgotten all the people killed?
Some went down like heroes in that Pennsylvania field
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
All the loved ones that we lost
And those left to carry on

Nope, still remember it well.

Don't you tell me not to worry about Bin Laden

What asshat moron ever said this? Did they suggest you invite him for pie?

Have you forgotten?

Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?

Saying it thrice doesn't change my answer.

Music like this is targeted to make having an opposing view make you a yellow belly, coward, moron mofo. True patriots look for reasons, make judgments, and then act overwhelmingly. Just had to get that out because that song came on the radio again today and irked me. Night, see you all in the morning.

Country music does seem to have a lot of America fuck yeah! songs.

Country music does seem to have a lot of America fuck yeah! songs.

And let's not forget the trope namer either.

Country music does seem to have a lot of America fuck yeah! songs.

They like to play to the base, :p


I hate country anyway....makes my people look bad, lol...

Perhaps country music should have a rating system like movies...

Suggestion #1 PG: May include Patriotic Garbage.

jk ;)

They like to play to the base, :p


I hate country anyway....makes my people look bad, lol...

Does it give you...the Biloxi Blues?

Oh ha ha ha, I kill myself!

Wheee...

This was a good song.

Though I kinda prefer:
Hey, Uncle Sam put your name at the top of his list
And the Statue of Liberty started shakin' her fist
And the eagle will fly, man, there's gonna be Hell
When you hear Mother Freedom start to ringin' her bell
And it will feel like the whole wide world is rainin' down on you
Brought to you courtesy of the red, white and blue.

And by the way, where were you back in 2001? I saw the second plane slam into the second tower on a live T.V. camera. I was enraged! Later, people were jumping to their deaths, rather than be burned to death.

Thanks for reminding me why I don't listen to country anymore.

Where were you when they built the ladder to heaven?

How come they didn't make a country song about any other tragedies? Why not a country song about Columbine?

Probably because there were no brown people involved.

How come they didn't make a country song about any other tragedies? Why not a country song about Columbine?

Probably because there were no brown people involved.

Now now, skin color had nothing to do with it. It was because they were foreigners.

Now now, skin color had nothing to do with it. It was because they were foreigners.

Hmm that is a possibility...

Who the hell is Mother Freedom?

Who the hell is Mother Freedom?

Mother Nature's psychotic sister.

Mother Nature's psychotic sister.

I guess Father Time should have been more careful with the cocaine, eh?

You realize that song is six years old, yeah? It's hardly worth getting all concerned about now. Hell, even the guy who sang it has moved on.

I have to admit I like country music but this pile of shite is just too much
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I like country music too (actually, I like songs from almost any and all genres, so call me ecclectic, but...), and this is the only song I've heard that actively pissed me off. The song equates the war in Iraq to 9/11, and implies that people who opposed the US going into Iraq have 'forgotten' about 9/11, a completely and totally unrelated event. Heaven forbid someone have a differing opinion about the war, so let's use music to make them out to be unpatriotic cowards!

I was lucky enough to not lose anyone I knew that day, but that doesn't mean the memories of that awful day aren't etched into my mind. For tragedy tribute songs, I much prefer Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning)" (http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/jackson-alan/where-were-you-when-the-world-stopped-turning-1787.html) by Alan Jackson or The Change (http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/brooks-garth/the-change-4958.html) by Garth Brooks. I'll take my tributes without the insults to my intelligence, thankyouverymuch!

EDIT TO ADD: Heinleinites, the song still gets airtime on the radio, even if the singer has since moved on. It still ticks me off when I hear it, without hesitation I change to a different station when I hear it come on.

Hell, even the guy who sang it has moved on.

Then, he should feel free to refuse permission for radio stations to play it.

Then, he should feel free to refuse permission for radio stations to play it.

'Moved on' in the sense that he's recorded other albums and done other things in the six years since he released that song, not 'moved on' in the sense that he's willing to repudiate the song.

Heinleinites, the song still gets airtime on the radio, even if the singer has since moved on. It still ticks me off when I hear it, without hesitation I change to a different station when I hear it come on.

Which is what more people should do when they run across something on the TV or radio they don't like, just switch it somewhere else. You don't hear it alot on the local country station here. I listen to that station constantly, and apparently I have forgotten the last time I heard it.

'Moved on' in the sense that he's recorded other albums and done other things in the six years since he released that song, not 'moved on' in the sense that he's willing to repudiate the song.

So, what you're saying boils down to "he's still a moron, only a moron that did other stuff".

you realize that song is six years old, yeah? It's hardly worth getting all concerned about now. Hell, even the guy who sang it has moved on.

qft

Dude, it's a SONG. Music is all about emotional drive and power, not rational argument. Don't expect too much content wise when they "cut it down to 3:05".

I have to admit I like country music but this pile of shite is just too much



Agreed


So far so good and I'm loving it



Well didn't that turn out to be the damn truth?


Ah, you call it preaching when someone presents and opposing viewpoint right after you get done preaching that they have to believe in Jesus Christ as their personal lord and savior or they will burn in hell.



Not at all. I lost two friends working for Cantor Fitzgerald that day and others in the ensuing wars we fought.



See above. I lost that day and put my life in the line while losing others.



No, no, and double fuck no. There may have been some idiot somewhere that made this claim but no one I ever heard. Actually, the argument was "hey, you're forgetting about Bin Laden by going into Iraq. Keep your eye on the true prize."



Right, because anger tends to get in the way of rational thinking and problem solving. If we had footage all day every day we could walk around angry, depressed, and looking for the quickest fix of Toby Keith.your albums we could get. There you can anger us about all sorts of stuff we've been letting just pass on by.



Right, so go to the bar and beat the piss out of the local drunk because your wife said she's having an affair.



Still no


Me too. They are fighting to make it home alive in one piece.



Nope, still remember it well.



What asshat moron ever said this? Did they suggest you invite him for pie?



Saying it thrice doesn't change my answer.

Music like this is targeted to make having an opposing view make you a yellow belly, coward, moron mofo. True patriots look for reasons, make judgments, and then act overwhelmingly. Just had to get that out because that song came on the radio again today and irked me. Night, see you all in the morning.Thank you for posting this.
I was mulling a few things over the other day and just about the same things occurred to me as well.
*bows*

So, what you're saying boils down to "he's still a moron, only a moron that did other stuff".

No, what I'm saying is that there is a statute of limitations on outrage, especially over something as ephemeral as a song on the radio.

No, what I'm saying is that there is a statute of limitations on outrage, especially over something as ephemeral as a song on the radio.
Maybe there's a statute of limitations on outrage, but there's not one for annoyance! :p (And honestly, I'm not so sure there's one on outrage, either.) The guy may have done other albums since then, but that song left such an impression on me that I refuse to go anywhere near 'em entirely because of my indignation/outrage over that one song.

The country station I listen to has reduced how often it plays, but I still manage to catch part of it maybe once or twice a week. I look forward to it eventually falling off the rotation completely. In the meantime, there's plenty of albums by other musicians that I'll happily spend my money on. :D

Dude, it's a SONG. Music is all about emotional drive and power, not rational argument. Don't expect too much content wise when they "cut it down to 3:05".
Billy Joel is my hero.

The guy may have done other albums since then, but that song left such an impression on me that I refuse to go anywhere near 'em entirely because of my indignation/outrage over that one song.

Fair enough.

In the meantime, there's plenty of albums by other musicians that I'll happily spend my money on. :D

If you like country, try Eric Church, Josh Turner, Trace Adkins, or David Alan Coe.

Fair enough.



If you like country, try Eric Church, Josh Turner, Trace Adkins, or David Alan Coe.
Funny enough, if I don't have 'em, someone in my family probably does :P I'm forever and always partial to Garth Brooks myself, but some of the newer artists aren't bad at all.

Funny enough, if I don't have 'em, someone in my family probably does :P I'm forever and always partial to Garth Brooks myself, but some of the newer artists aren't bad at all.

I listen to a lot of country, outside of metal, that's far and away my number one genre. I never really did get into Garth Brooks though. I do like Brooks and Dunn, or Alan Jackson.

Eh, Country's always crap. *Is incinerated quickly*

Perhaps country music should have a rating system like movies...

Suggestion #1 PG: May include Patriotic Garbage.

jk ;)

If it's not blue grass, it's always about the same thing: getting drunk, domestic abuse, or patriotic, bigoted crap.

If it's not blue grass, it's always about the same thing: getting drunk, domestic abuse, or patriotic, bigoted crap.

Yeah, you're right, the same way that heavy metal is always long-haired drug addicts screaming, or emo is always fags whining about being losers.

Yeah, you're right, the same way that heavy metal is always long-haired drug addicts screaming, or emo is always fags whining about being losers.

Hey! Bruce, does NOT have long hair! :mad:

Patriotic songs smack of fascism to me, but I'm not sure why.

Eh, Country's always crap. *Is incinerated quickly*

She's dun left me, and I'm feeling blue agaaiiin.
I'm in my truck, and I see what she did was a siiiiiin.
My whole darn life is one disgrace.
Mah can o' beer is a runnin' low,
My big ol' dog won't look me in the face,
Oh woe...oh woe.

Yeah, you're right, the same way that heavy metal is always long-haired drug addicts screaming, or emo is always fags whining about being losers.

Well....

Dude, it's a SONG. Music is all about emotional drive and power, not rational argument. Don't expect too much content wise when they "cut it down to 3:05".

Excellent Billy Joel reference ("The Entertainer").

Who the hell is Mother Freedom?

Mother Nature's psychotic sister.

I guess Father Time should have been more careful with the cocaine, eh?

I love you guys.

Going to guess that little ditty is by Toby "Fuck Yeah!" Keith.

Me too. They are fighting to make it home alive in one piece.


Also many of them are fighting:

1.to feed their families, because they didn't find another job
2.to pay for college and student's loans
3.to pay for mortgage
etc etc...

You know, pro-war propaganda songs are all the same: like the famous lapsus of Mussolini's "Armiamoci e partite!".
"Armiamoci": imperative, 1st person plural, "let us arm ourselves"
"partite": imperative, 2nd person plural, "off you go (to war)!"

I like country music too (actually, I like songs from almost any and all genres, so call me ecclectic, but...), and this is the only song I've heard that actively pissed me off. The song equates the war in Iraq to 9/11, and implies that people who opposed the US going into Iraq have 'forgotten' about 9/11, a completely and totally unrelated event. Heaven forbid someone have a differing opinion about the war, so let's use music to make them out to be unpatriotic cowards!

I was lucky enough to not lose anyone I knew that day, but that doesn't mean the memories of that awful day aren't etched into my mind. For tragedy tribute songs, I much prefer Where Were You (When the World Stopped Turning)" (http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/jackson-alan/where-were-you-when-the-world-stopped-turning-1787.html) by Alan Jackson or The Change (http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/brooks-garth/the-change-4958.html) by Garth Brooks. I'll take my tributes without the insults to my intelligence, thankyouverymuch!

EDIT TO ADD: Heinleinites, the song still gets airtime on the radio, even if the singer has since moved on. It still ticks me off when I hear it, without hesitation I change to a different station when I hear it come on.
it would help you to not feel so angry if you knew that the song is about the war in afghanistan not iraq. it got co-opted to be about iraq but that wasnt its intent.

Thank you for posting this.
I was mulling a few things over the other day and just about the same things occurred to me as well.
*bows*

It's just irritating. The local country station here still plays it now and again and I do change the channel so I don't have to hear it. The biggest problem is it reinforces an ignorant mindset of people who then go on to do things like kill three police officers in Pittsburg because "Obama is going to take away your guns." It's best not to light a fire under morons. Btw, what the F was that 22 year old guy doing with an AK and body armor? I love the "Where were you when the world stopped turning" song. Shows how much more class AJ has than DW.

No, what I'm saying is that there is a statute of limitations on outrage, especially over something as ephemeral as a song on the radio.

I'm not outraged. I'm saddened at stupidity though.

She's dun left me, and I'm feeling blue agaaiiin.
I'm in my truck, and I see what she did was a siiiiiin.
My whole darn life is one disgrace.
Mah can o' beer is a runnin' low,
My big ol' dog won't look me in the face,
Oh woe...oh woe.

Those lyrics are horrible.

Those lyrics are horrible.

Sorry...perhaps you can quote better ones?

Sorry...perhaps you can quote better ones?

Well, closest thing to country I have is this collection of Finnish-American songs, and they're more folk. But, it was just my opinion.

Sorry...perhaps you can quote better ones?

Quote? I have to say I've never even heard of the lyrics you posted... maybe I gotta listen to the radio more...

I think Have You Forgotten is a good song, and I've never shot anyone. Though I admit I have felt like it before. I thought everyone was done complaining about this song 5 years ago.

*is apparently in too many ways a stereotypical West Virginian...*

Country music does seem to have a lot of America fuck yeah! songs.

I once heard a news story about a private collection of country songs that was given to Richard Nixon as a gift. One of the songs had lines like "we live right outside the city," and "we don't burn our draft cards and get high on LSD."

It made me laugh that they were singing to Nixon about how he shared their good wholesome values and spurned the values of liberals. Then Nixon got run out of office for being the ringleader of a bunch of criminals.

It also made me laugh because it was a song about the wholesome values of rural America that came right on the heels of a story about the Crystal Meth epidemic in Tennessee.

I once heard a news story about a private collection of country songs that was given to Richard Nixon as a gift. One of the songs had lines like "we live right outside the city," and "we don't burn our draft cards and get high on LSD."

It made me laugh that they were singing to Nixon about how he shared their good wholesome values and spurned the values of liberals. Then Nixon got run out of office for being the ringleader of a bunch of criminals.

It also made me laugh because it was a song about the wholesome values of rural America that came right on the heels of a story about the Crystal Meth epidemic in Tennessee.

Nixon abolished the draft cut, military spending, and increased welfare.

Silly twits. :tongue:

Then, he should feel free to refuse permission for radio stations to play it.

He's making good money off of it. Why the hell should he care? It's kind of like the pornography of music.