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Does anyone else plan on seeing it? I've been hyped about it for awhile. I loved the first three X-Men films (actually, it was mixed feelings in the case of X-Men: The Last Stand) and I think this one will be the best of the franchise so far.

Any other X-Men fans, or Marvel fans, or superhero fans, in general?

I'll see it if I pull some spare time and money from somewhere. But its not a top priority as far as summer movies are concerned. That honor goes to Star Trek, and to a lesser extent Terminator: Salvation.

That said, I liked much of X-men 1 and 3 (yet dislike 2, unlike many people). So I wouldn't mind seeing it at all.

I already have 2 tickets :D

I'll see it if I pull some spare time and money from somewhere. But its not a top priority as far as summer movies are concerned. That honor goes to Star Trek, and to a lesser extent Terminator: Salvation.

That said, I liked much of X-men 1 and 3 (yet dislike 2, unlike many people). So I wouldn't mind seeing it at all.

Never would guessed you were a Star Trek fan. j/k ;)

Well, I think looking back at Wolverine's past will be interesting, because honestly Wolverine is the most amazing human to ever exist. Otherwise, they really can't do much, seeing as the other X-Men have pretty boring lives before they became X-Men, and they killed off several (although Xavier is apparently coming back) of the main characters, including Cyclops and Jean, pretty much killing any ideas for a sequel.

Well, I think looking back at Wolverine's past will be interesting, because honestly Wolverine is the most amazing human to ever exist. Otherwise, they really can't do much, seeing as the other X-Men have pretty boring lives before they became X-Men, and they killed off several (although Xavier is apparently coming back) of the main characters, including Cyclops and Jean, pretty much killing any ideas for a sequel.

No reason you can't have a sequel without Cyclops and Jean/Phoenix. Until film three Jean had little purpose besides getting caught up in a Wolverine/Cyclops love triangle, and Cyclops never impressed me much. Their are lots of other charcters they can use.

That said, I think they should be very careful about doing a sequel to number three. It wrapped up the main plot lines fairly well, and I was a bit pissed that it suggested in the after-the-credits scene that X would come back. His sudden death gave the film a lot of its dramatic and emotional impact, and it felt cheap to undo that.

Does anyone else plan on seeing it? I've been hyped about it for awhile. I loved the first three X-Men films (actually, it was mixed feelings in the case of X-Men: The Last Stand) and I think this one will be the best of the franchise so far.

Any other X-Men fans, or Marvel fans, or superhero fans, in general?

Yeah, there doesn't seem to be much else new in theatres, so I'll go. IMHO, X1 was a nice adaptation, X2 was really good and a decent set-up for the next movie..., and X3 was a travesty. One problem being that in all three, the X-Men were portrayed as scenery for the Wolverine character.

Yeah, there doesn't seem to be much else new in theatres, so I'll go. IMHO, X1 was a nice adaptation, X2 was really good and a decent set-up for the next movie..., and X3 was a travesty. One problem being that in all three, the X-Men were portrayed as scenery for the Wolverine character.

My main beef with X3: No Nightcrawler. :(

No reason you can't have a sequel without Cyclops and Jean/Phoenix. Until film three Jean had little purpose besides getting caught up in a Wolverine/Cyclops love triangle, and Cyclops never impressed me much. Their are lots of other charcters they can use.

That said, I think they should be very careful about doing a sequel to number three. It wrapped up the main plot lines fairly well, and I was a bit pissed that it suggested in the after-the-credits scene that X would come back. His sudden death gave the film a lot of its dramatic and emotional impact, and it felt cheap to undo that.

That is true, but they must have felt that it wouldn't be right to leave Xavier dead. Has anybody noticed how scarily close to the comic Xavier Patrick Stewart looks?

I look forward to it.

My main beef with X3: No Nightcrawler. :(
You are SO right. In the books, Nightcrawler and Wolverine complement each other's characters.

I'll go see it now that they are finally adding fucking Gambit.

That is true, but they must have felt that it wouldn't be right to leave Xavier dead. Has anybody noticed how scarily close to the comic Xavier Patrick Stewart looks?

They probably (erroneously) figured that removing Magneto and X from the struggle would destroy their chances for a sequel, and so diminished the impact of an otherwise decent film.

I definitely plan to see it at all costs, mostly because my favorite X-Man, is Gambit and he's finally making an appearance, :)

although, I fear being disappointed if his contribution to the film is small, or Kitsch does a poor portrayal, ill definitely be a stickler for the accent, ;)

They probably (erroneously) figured that removing Magneto and X from the struggle would destroy their chances for a sequel, and so diminished the impact of an otherwise decent film.

Xavier isn't dead. He's shifted his consciousness into a patient in a permanently vegetative state. This was revealed after the closing credits in X3.

Xavier isn't dead. He's shifted his consciousness into a patient in a permanently vegetative state. This was revealed after the closing credits in X3.

Yeah, that's what were talking about. Being cheated of that drama

Ever since I read Watchmen, other super-hero stories have failed to really satisfy me.

I downloaded and watched the leaked version, and I'm glad I didn't pay to see that movie. I won't give anything away, but it just wasn't nearly as good as the first 2 movies, there was no suspension of disbelief (which is hard to do in an X-Men movie), and my main beef is that Gambit's role in the movie is basically just a cameo.

I downloaded and watched the leaked version, and I'm glad I didn't pay to see that movie. I won't give anything away, but it just wasn't nearly as good as the first 2 movies, there was no suspension of disbelief (which is hard to do in an X-Men movie), and my main beef is that Gambit's role in the movie is basically just a cameo.

Gambit is always just a cameo at first. And the damn movie is solely about Wolverine, not even the X-Men. He shouldn't even have a damn cameo if you think about it.

Gambit is always just a cameo at first. And the damn movie is solely about Wolverine, not even the X-Men. He shouldn't even have a damn cameo if you think about it.

Technically; the X-Men Movies where about Wolverine too, and all the other mutants were cameos and minor characters.

I can't wait until it comes, Wolverine is one of my favorite X-Men characters. And you are right, where the heck was Nightcrawler on the last film, he is also one of my faves!!

Want to see it.

I know they've reinvented the canon but I don't know WHAT the hell Gambit's doing in a movie about Wolverine when he's teamed up with Sabertooth, Maverick, and Silver Fox. I mean they had three movies with Rogue and didn't intro Gambit there?

grumble grumble betcha ass I'm gonna see it.

Well, I think looking back at Wolverine's past will be interesting, because honestly Wolverine is the most amazing human to ever exist. Otherwise, they really can't do much, seeing as the other X-Men have pretty boring lives before they became X-Men, and they killed off several (although Xavier is apparently coming back) of the main characters, including Cyclops and Jean, pretty much killing any ideas for a sequel.
The thing to remember about Marvel is that dead is not for keeps, ESPECIALLY not where Phoenix is involved.

(Though they might have to recast the character as the actors seem to be sick of 'em.)

I can't wait until it comes, Wolverine is one of my favorite X-Men characters. And you are right, where the heck was Nightcrawler on the last film, he is also one of my faves!!
The makeup took hours to do and Alan Cumming wasn't thrilled about doing a sequel because of it, and the tail was a pain in the ass to get to work, apparently.

The makeup took hours to do and Alan Cumming wasn't thrilled about doing a sequel because of it, and the tail was a pain in the ass to get to work, apparently.

You'd think something like a tail would be easy to add in after the fact with CG. Anyway, that opening scene in the second movie is pretty much the best scene in cinematic history.

You'd think something like a tail would be easy to add in after the fact with CG. Anyway, that opening scene in the second movie is pretty much the best scene in cinematic history.

What the Hell?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaEuri_cQ2Y

You'd think something like a tail would be easy to add in after the fact with CG. Anyway, that opening scene in the second movie is pretty much the best scene in cinematic history.
Agreed. I just went, "Holy shit, that's EXACTLY how Nightcrawler's supposed to BAMF!"
The only other moment like it in the series for me is the first movie, when you see Jackman from behind about to go into the cage match -- just the way he's standing, I knew it was Wolverine.

What the Hell?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaEuri_cQ2Y
Nah, not even close.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5Hr6NTsbtg

Nah, not even close.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5Hr6NTsbtg

:tongue: I needed a laugh, thanks for the classic. That reminds me: In Dirty Rotten Scoundrels that song was used.

I downloaded and watched the leaked version, and I'm glad I didn't pay to see that movie. I won't give anything away, but it just wasn't nearly as good as the first 2 movies, there was no suspension of disbelief (which is hard to do in an X-Men movie), and my main beef is that Gambit's role in the movie is basically just a cameo.

:(

Gambit should get his own movie, :mad:

With blackjack and Hookers! In fact, Forget The Movie!

...ah screw the whole thing...

Im still going to see it, :p

Ever since I read Watchmen, other super-hero stories have failed to really satisfy me.

Why?

The makeup took hours to do and Alan Cumming wasn't thrilled about doing a sequel because of it, and the tail was a pain in the ass to get to work, apparently.

And the fact Nightcrawler would have had a very small role in X3, which, in their opinion and (Cumming's) didn't justify the time and effort of adding all that make-up.

Why?

Not enough depth. Though I should say most, because there are a few super-hero comics with depth, just not many.

:(

Gambit should get his own movie, :mad:

My friends would agree with you there.

Not enough depth. Though I should say most, because there are a few super-hero comics with depth, just not many.

Idk, Wolverine certainly has some depth....I have that same problem with most DC comics, except Batman of course...

But, the Big Four, so to speak, of Marvel (Wolverine, Hulk, Spiderman, and Ironman) certainly have lots of depth...immortal, unable to control one's self, unable to maintain anything like a normal life, and extreme alcoholism and moral problems with being an arms manufacturing company, etc...

Not enough depth. Though I should say most, because there are a few super-hero comics with depth, just not many.

Haven't seen or read Watchmen, but I am a fan of Alan Moore's work. That being said, his graphic novels are usually better than the films based on them. Case in point: V for Vendetta.

After X-Men 3, I'm not paying one cent to see another X-Men film.

Haven't seen or read Watchmen, but I am a fan of Alan Moore's work. That being said, his graphic novels are usually better than the films based on them. Case in point: V for Vendetta.

You should, both the Watchmen Comic and the Movie were fricken Awesome!!

After X-Men 3, I'm not paying one cent to see another X-Men film.

X3 was no masterpiece, but it did have its moments.

You should, both the Watchmen Comic and the Movie were fricken Awesome!!

Thanks. I'll check them out. :)

You'd think something like a tail would be easy to add in after the fact with CG. Anyway, that opening scene in the second movie is pretty much the best scene in cinematic history.

Wow. Someone's not seen a lot of movies if you think that was the best opener cinema has to offer.

But, the Big Four, so to speak, of Marvel (Wolverine, Hulk, Spiderman, and Ironman) certainly have lots of depth...immortal, unable to control one's self, unable to maintain anything like a normal life, and extreme alcoholism and moral problems with being an arms manufacturing company, etc...

See, I never got how being an arms manufacturer was somehow this big moral conundrum. It's a legititmate business, and, like babies, someone has to make them. I think what it is, is people want sausage, but they don't necessarily want to see(or hear about how it's)sausage made

See, I never got how being an arms manufacturer was somehow this big moral conundrum. It's a legititmate business, and, like babies, someone has to make them.

It becomes a real conundrum when this guy is running the show: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obadiah_Stane ;)


But, although I do see the necessity, I can see the moral dilemma as well, Its like Tobacco companies, the products, if used as directed, will kill things....

Wow. Someone's not seen a lot of movies if you think that was the best opener cinema has to offer.

Was it the best opener ever? Not by a longshot. It was pretty awesome, though. :p

Haven't seen or read Watchmen, but I am a fan of Alan Moore's work. That being said, his graphic novels are usually better than the films based on them. Case in point: V for Vendetta.

I never bothered seeing Watchmen, as I do not like the director, and, like you said, Moore's works tend to be made into poor films.

You should read Watchmen...a good commentary on God, society, government, and ethics.

"Who watches the Watchmen?"

I never bothered seeing Watchmen, as I do not like the director, and, like you said, Moore's works tend to be made into poor films.

You should read Watchmen...a good commentary on God, society, government, and ethics.

"Who watches the Watchmen?"

IIRC, Moore was dissatisfied with the Watchmen film. Likewise with V for Vendetta. He even had his name removed from the credits.

IIRC, Moore was dissatisfied with the Watchmen film. Likewise with V for Vendetta. He even had his name removed from the credits.

He never supported a Watchmen film, but his fervent hostility had to do with the director; and from what I heard, the guy took a great work and turned it into a violence-fest.

Anyway, if you liked V for Vendetta (and yes, the film was bad--the book was an eternal concept, and film was a just an anti-Bush piece), you would love 1984.

IIRC, Moore was dissatisfied with the Watchmen film. Likewise with V for Vendetta. He even had his name removed from the credits.

Moore never actually watched the film, because he dislikes film adaptations, he did say that the script was as close as anyone could get to the comic...

which, considering how much he dislikes film adaptations, is pretty high praise...

anyway, I thought the film was good, maybe not as good as "The Dark Knight" but still very good, other than the very end it was very faithful to the book...

But, although I do see the necessity, I can see the moral dilemma as well, Its like Tobacco companies, the products, if used as directed, will kill things....

True, but neither RJ Reynolds nor Col. Colt(or Stark Industries) ever twisted anybody's arm and forced someone to buy their products when they didn't want to.

True, but neither RJ Reynolds nor Col. Colt(or Stark Industries) ever twisted anybody's arm and forced someone to buy their products when they didn't want to.

True, but Im sure plenty of their customers forced people to use their products when they didnt want to, ;)

no i don't intend on seeing it, but i'd sure love to have retractable claws, either in a fur suit or with a dna makeover.

I think what it is, is people want sausage, but they don't necessarily want to see(or hear about how it's)sausage made
-Otto Von Bismarck ;)

Anyway, I'll be seeing it. I loved all the X-Men movies, loved Gambit when I used to watch the cartoons and loved V for Vendetta (someone brought it up).

no i don't intend on seeing it, but i'd sure love to have retractable claws, either in a fur suit or with a dna makeover.

Yes, yes, you're a furry-fetishist. We know.

I've seen the leaked rough-cut of the film, and I'll definately be seeing the final version in the cinema. Liev Schreiber is fucking bad-ass as Sabretooth.

Those who're looking forward to Gambit, you're likely to be disappointed. He's in the film very, very sparingly. I'm talking maybe four major scenes, only one of them being an action scene.

Nah, I'm more into films featuring XXX-women. :D

The trailers look awesomely retarded so I'll probably go and see if because I do like my brainless action fun. That Gambit and Deadpool are in it (even sparingly) is but a bonus :D

I never liked Gambit.

Which origin of Wolverine are they doing?

Which origin of Wolverine are they doing?

What do you mean?

What do you mean?

Are they doing the "very first time Logan showed any mutant ability" origin, or are they doing the origin of Weapon X, which is more likely, considering the content of the previous films.

Are they doing the "very first time Logan showed any mutant ability" origin, or are they doing the origin of Weapon X, which is more likely, considering the content of the previous films.

The trailer shows a boy-Wolverine with bone claws, and a Wolverine fighting in the Civil War.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je2MFXDr7xw

The trailer shows a boy-Wolverine with bone claws, and a Wolverine fighting in the Civil War.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je2MFXDr7xw
That shit was so bad ass I am sooooo going to see that!

That Gambit and Deadpool are in it (even sparingly) is but a bonus :D


I would pay the money just to see Deadpool on screen, even though I know I'll be disappointed. (and of course Gambit makes my little fangirl heart flutter, even if he'll only be a cameo.)

Wolverine though, I never really liked. When I still had X-titles on my pull list he was in *all* of them, so he was more like a prop then a person. There's no way he the writers could have continuity across that many books, so I didn't even care about what they were doing with him.

I don't think this movie will be as good as I'm hoping. In fact I don't think this summer will be as good as I'm hoping, or even as good as last year's.

I would pay the money just to see Deadpool on screen, even though I know I'll be disappointed. (and of course Gambit makes my little fangirl heart flutter, even if he'll only be a cameo.)

Wolverine though, I never really liked. When I still had X-titles on my pull list he was in *all* of them, so he was more like a prop then a person. There's no way he the writers could have continuity across that many books, so I didn't even care about what they were doing with him.

I don't think this movie will be as good as I'm hoping. In fact I don't think this summer will be as good as I'm hoping, or even as good as last year's.

*pokes...with quarterstaff*

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Also: I think Stark's moral dilema was with how his company was run ( by evil), then with what it made (guns for soldiers). But that's the great part of the movie, you can bring your own view to it, enjoy it, and feel like it backs you up.

After the anal raping that was The Last Stand I am skepitcal. Ill probably see it on DVD (Im also a poor student who cant afford to see movies in theaters) soley for Gambit.

See, I never got how being an arms manufacturer was somehow this big moral conundrum. It's a legititmate business, and, like babies, someone has to make them.

it's not the fact that he made them. what bothered Stark was that he thought that only the US Military were using them.


Which origin of Wolverine are they doing?combination of origins...

After the anal raping that was The Last Stand I am skepitcal. Ill probably see it on DVD (Im also a poor student who cant afford to see movies in theaters) soley for Gambit.I hated Last Stand for their portrayal of Psylocke. :mad:

that British Babe went toe to toe with Sabertooth for Gawds sake! She hurt Juggernaught THROUGH his helmet (the helmet that protects him from Psionic attacks!

She did NOT deserve her role in X-3. I would've made her a teacher at Xaviers.

I hated Last Stand for their portrayal of Psylocke. :mad:.

I don't even remember her, and I remember Jamie Madox and the Spike nock off.

I don't even remember her, and I remember Jamie Madox and the Spike nock off.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psylocke
Psylocke appears in the feature film X-Men: The Last Stand, played by actress Meiling Melançon. In the film, she fights against the X-Men as a member of the Brotherhood. During an interview with Wizard magazine, Melançon said that in X3, Psylocke has the power to turn into shadows and create psi-blades. However, in the film, she doesn't appear to create psi-blades, but she appears out of nowhere. There were, however, some very faint shadows visible when she did so. In the film, Psylocke is killed alongside Arclight and a character based on Quill (named "Kid Omega" in the credits) by the Dark Phoenix's disintegration wave. The film's novelization makes no mention of what happens to Psylocke, Kid Omega, and Arclight after their unsuccessful attempt to kill Angel's father. According to scriptwriter Zak Penn, the character played by Melançon was not named as Psylocke in the original script. In a Q&A on thexverse.com, he claimed that: "There was some switching of character names later in production, and I'm not exactly sure how Psylocke got thrown into the mix."[citation needed] On the DVD Commentary of the film it was stated by Brett Ratner that the character played by Meiling Melançon is Psylocke.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dd/Psylocke-X-Men_3.jpg

Origins gives me a serious dilemma. On one hand, out of three previous film, we've got one bad one, one half good one and one terrible one, so logic dictates that Origins will indeed suck balls, and I am an idiot for even cashiering wasting my time on it. On the other hand, it features Deadpool, and they've outright said that Origins is a testbed for a Deadpool movie, which I really, really want, so I should go see it and hope it succeeds. On the third hand, do I really want a Deadpool movie from the people who brought us the X-men film? I'm so conflicted.

ARG! Clearly I had repressed the memory. If you're not even going to give her the same powers, why try to say it's her! And Psychic katanas are totaly cooler then turning into "shadows" so it dosen't even make sense from an eye candy point of view.

I saw it last night at the Midnight showing...

It was pretty good, definitely worth the $7.25 I paid for it, lol...

No Dark Knight, but, Id say its at least as good as X2 imo...There was plenty of Gambit action, contrary to previous posts in this thread, although Kitsch's accent is closer to the one heard here, rather than New Orleans, but, Im not going to fault him too much I suppose, he is Canadian, lol...

and I dont think they did Deadpool justice at the end, not letting him talk and all...

other than that, I enjoyed it, I give it a B+...