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What Would Motivate You to be Waterboarded?

You-Gi-Owe
26-04-2009, 16:16
Branching off from the topic "Sean Hannity agrees to be waterboarded for charity", what would motivate you to attempt to endure a session of waterboarding?

Do you have a large or small martyr complex (save a people or save your loved one(s)). Would you be waterboarded for money? How about for for your favorite cause, or your country, or God?
SaintB
26-04-2009, 16:18
Whats the big deal about water boarding? I know its not REAL surfing but its easier to do, and its just as fun.
Dumb Ideologies
26-04-2009, 16:20
Cake.
Heikoku 2
26-04-2009, 16:24
A goddess who agreed to cast Restore Sanity right after marrying me.
Fartsniffage
26-04-2009, 16:25
For a laugh.
Saige Dragon
26-04-2009, 16:26
I don't waterboard, but I do snowboard. If I had to yes, I would snowboard for oodles of money or cocaine and hookers, possibly even family and friends (as long as they brought along cocaine and hookers).
You-Gi-Owe
26-04-2009, 16:29
A goddess who agreed to cast Restore Sanity right after marrying me.

Is she restoring your sanity or Hers? Sounds like a combination of Loved One and Religion. I can relate to that.

I find myself considering all of the options, except "in your dreams, never, ever". I love life, mine and other peoples'
greed and death
26-04-2009, 16:29
I would do it for about 100 dollars a second.
Heikoku 2
26-04-2009, 16:32
Is she restoring your sanity or Hers? Sounds like a combination of Loved One and Religion. I can relate to that.

I find myself considering all of the options, except "in your dreams, never, ever". I love life, mine and other peoples'

It's not, it'd be Loved One only. Basically, I have a liking for goddesses. :p
You-Gi-Owe
26-04-2009, 16:32
I would do it for about 100 dollars a second.

I like your estimate. I hope you'd be able to last a good long time.
greed and death
26-04-2009, 16:33
I like your estimate. I hope you'd be able to last a good long time.

there was an offer of 1,000 dollars a second.

It wouldn't be the first time I shit my pants for money.
Blouman Empire
26-04-2009, 16:35
Whats the big deal about water boarding? I know its not REAL surfing but its easier to do, and its just as fun.

I used to water board all the time.
Gun Manufacturers
26-04-2009, 16:49
there was an offer of 1,000 dollars a second.

It wouldn't be the first time I shit my pants for money.

That's really too much information.

I'd volunteer for a flat sum of $10,000,000 or more.
Nadkor
26-04-2009, 16:54
Pay of my student debt, and pay for the rest of my tuition, and you can waterboard me. And once I'm a qualified lawyer of some description, I'll sue you and get even more money.
Lunatic Goofballs
26-04-2009, 16:58
It might be fun to undergo SERE Training.
Vault 10
26-04-2009, 17:02
It depends on how much money, and how high is the risk of me dying.

I estimate the base value of my life at $145,000/yr*(75yr-29yr)=FY2008$6,670,000, or, multiplied by growth potential of 8%/yr for next 15 yrs and then 2.5% (inflation) till 65 yr old, $19.4M.

Adding non-material value of out-of-work activities at 0.5, with 168-45(work)-48(sleep) hours of it, that is $35.5 million.


So, if the chance of death is say 2%, the minimal reward to consider would be $710,000. But to make it interesting, and not just a pointless exchange, take 2x. So $1,420,000.
That's the price I'd agree to be waterboarded for. With haggling possible, but no lower than $710,000. Any less would be unprofitable, as it would not justify the risk of losing the life and hence all future income.

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Edit: That is with a 2% risk of death, I mean, which is the figure I've heard for waterboarding. With an 0.1% risk, say, it would cost much less.
I wouldn't measure by the second, although, the whole unpleasantness would make the basic cost at least a few grand even if there was zero risk and minimum duration.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
26-04-2009, 17:08
I would do it for about 100 dollars a second.
That's the same price I've settled on. There was a video where a journalist went six seconds before chickening out, and I'm pretty sure I'm at least as tough as him. So $600, maybe more, that's a nice little sum for less than one minute's work.
I've also always been sort of curious what it feels like. Sure, I've heard it described as like drowning and all that, but that's not the same as getting the real thing, you know?
Katganistan
26-04-2009, 17:11
Absolutely nothing by choice, I can tell you that.
Takaram
26-04-2009, 18:45
There's a lot I would do for money, its only a matter of what and how much.
1010102
26-04-2009, 18:52
My country.
Fartsniffage
26-04-2009, 19:29
My country.

Why?
Lunatic Goofballs
26-04-2009, 19:30
Some of you have no appreciation for dangerous fun. :(
Holy Paradise
26-04-2009, 19:32
I'd be waterboarded for my family, friends, innocent lives, my country, and if I was being persecuted for my faith.

I'd also possibly would do it for sex with a hot chick.
Fighter4u
26-04-2009, 19:35
If I knew how horrible it was by undergoing it then I would never ever dear suggest that anybody else ever under go it. In other words I fully understand how wrong it is and I would never be attempted to turn a blind eye to it.
You-Gi-Owe
26-04-2009, 19:53
I'd be waterboarded for my family, friends, innocent lives, my country, and if I was being persecuted for my faith.

I'd also possibly would do it for sex with a hot chick.

DUDE !!!! Awesome Answer!!!!! :hail:
IL Ruffino
26-04-2009, 20:35
I would do it for shits and giggles.
Kormanthor
26-04-2009, 20:53
Nothing
greed and death
26-04-2009, 21:02
That's the same price I've settled on. There was a video where a journalist went six seconds before chickening out, and I'm pretty sure I'm at least as tough as him. So $600, maybe more, that's a nice little sum for less than one minute's work.
I've also always been sort of curious what it feels like. Sure, I've heard it described as like drowning and all that, but that's not the same as getting the real thing, you know?

yeah. and worse that happens is you shit your pants. Take your clothes throw them away, and take a nice long shower. Filth goes away, the money doesn't until you spend it.
I am certain i could go at least a minute for money.
Brutland and Norden
26-04-2009, 21:31
If I have a fetish for it.
Conserative Morality
26-04-2009, 22:00
For those I love, for my country, or for FREEDOM!!! :p
Skallvia
26-04-2009, 22:10
I would need a significant amount of money to be tortured...at least over a $100,000
Hydesland
26-04-2009, 22:11
Depends how long for.
Fartsniffage
26-04-2009, 22:13
Depends how long for.

From reading the rest of this thread I'm assuming it's until you shit yourself. :)
Skallvia
26-04-2009, 22:19
From reading the rest of this thread I'm assuming it's until you shit yourself. :)

But if thats the basis, whats to stop me from shitting myself as soon as they start? Thereby avoiding the torture involved, :p
Hydesland
26-04-2009, 22:23
From reading the rest of this thread I'm assuming it's until you shit yourself. :)

Well that would be incredibly embarrassing. Probably something like £10,000 would have to do it.
Objectivist Thinkers
26-04-2009, 22:29
A goddess who agreed to cast Restore Sanity right after marrying me.

Go to Cyrodill. Just be sure to make sure she isn't dead, they've got fines!! (But that's a LOT better than Morrowind!)
Galloism
27-04-2009, 00:46
$1,000 a second into my personal account would be fine.
Skallvia
27-04-2009, 00:47
Come to think of it, i want that in Gold, paper currency's going down hill as of late I hear, lol
Chernobyl-Pripyat
27-04-2009, 01:16
How waterboarding is torture is beyond me >.>


It's just like being dunked in a pool, but not by your friends.
Skallvia
27-04-2009, 01:18
How waterboarding is torture is beyond me >.>


It's just like being dunked in a pool, but not by your friends.

Being dunked for long enough that you black out, and nearly drown would definitely be tortuous...

however, I would be quite disturbed if supposed 'friends' were to do this...
Modzer0
27-04-2009, 01:19
For a laugh.

second
Lunatic Goofballs
27-04-2009, 01:22
But if thats the basis, whats to stop me from shitting myself as soon as they start? Thereby avoiding the torture involved, :p

It's harder to deliberately shit yourself than you might think. Take my word for it. :p
Modzer0
27-04-2009, 01:22
It might be fun to undergo SERE Training.

Actually I have heard SERE training is quite fun. Not sure if I would find it pleasant but the veteran I talked to seemed to think it was enjoyable..in hindsight at least.
Takaram
27-04-2009, 01:29
It's harder to deliberately shit yourself than you might think. Take my word for it. :p

:eek:!Way too much information!!!
Lunatic Goofballs
27-04-2009, 01:36
:eek:!Way too much information!!!

I disagree. Too much information would be telling you whether I succeeded or not.
Takaram
27-04-2009, 01:43
I disagree. Too much information would be telling you whether I succeeded or not.

okay, stop there:mad:
Skallvia
27-04-2009, 01:45
I disagree. Too much information would be telling you whether I succeeded or not.

Hmmm....Did you?
Lunatic Goofballs
27-04-2009, 01:48
okay, stop there:mad:

Hmmm....Did you?

I can't say, but everything worked out in the end. ;)
Ledgersia
27-04-2009, 01:59
I'd be willing to be subjected to waterboarding if a person or animal (except an arthropod)'s life was at stake. Or I'd do it for money, but it would depend on how long I was waterboarded and how much they would pay me.
Takaram
27-04-2009, 02:02
I'd be willing to be subjected to waterboarding if a person or animal (except an arthropod)'s life was at stake. Or I'd do it for money, but it would depend on how long I was waterboarded and how much they would pay me.

So you'd be willing to be tortured for a leech but not a butterfly?
Saige Dragon
27-04-2009, 02:04
So you'd be willing to be tortured for a leech but not a butterfly?

Everybody knows that butterflies are evil, soulless, bloodsuckers whereas leeches are.... wait...
Ledgersia
27-04-2009, 02:04
So you'd be willing to be tortured for a leech but not a butterfly?

LOL, you caught me there. :p

Okay, I'd be tortured for a mammal, reptile, amphibian, bird, or (maybe) fish.
You-Gi-Owe
27-04-2009, 02:12
From reading the rest of this thread I'm assuming it's until you shit yourself. :)

Original Poster, here. For the sake of argument, let's say that the interrogation team continues until you give up the incredibly embarassing secret about you that they have an inkling of.
Takaram
27-04-2009, 02:17
Original Poster, here. For the sake of argument, let's say that the interrogation team continues until you give up the incredibly embarassing secret about you that they have an inkling of.

Then you wind up being wet, horribly mentally scarred, and have your pants be full of shit
Post Liminality
27-04-2009, 02:21
Being dunked for long enough that you black out, and nearly drown would definitely be tortuous...

however, I would be quite disturbed if supposed 'friends' were to do this...

You don't know many people who've pledged to frats, eh?
The Romulan Republic
27-04-2009, 02:46
I would be waterborded for the lives of friends and family, for my life, for the lives of strangers, or for certain ideals, perhaps.

My country can kiss my ass (both my countries), and money doesn't interest me that much.
The Parkus Empire
27-04-2009, 02:55
If I could save lives by being subjected to it, I would do so.
SaintB
27-04-2009, 03:12
I just realized we are talking about The Shawn Hanetty Treatment. Not the sport.
Liuzzo
27-04-2009, 03:20
I did it for my country and high level security clearance. I doubt I'd do it again unless it saved the life of my wife.
Barringtonia
27-04-2009, 03:30
It's one of those things I'd be tempted by if offered, and I'd do it just for the experience, but from the stories I've heard I'm not sure I'd actually do it given an actual offer.
greed and death
27-04-2009, 04:00
From reading the rest of this thread I'm assuming it's until you shit yourself. :)

That wouldn't stop me. If I get more money the longer I am dunked, don't stop because I lost bowel control. They make depends for a reason.
Conserative Morality
27-04-2009, 11:50
I just realized we are talking about The Shawn Hanetty Treatment. Not the sport.

Please. Tell me that you were joking, and actually realized this all along...

http://iamwords.iamramen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/facepalm21.jpg
Tmutarakhan
27-04-2009, 14:29
Sure, I've heard it described as like drowning and all that, but that's not the same as getting the real thing, you know?
It IS the real thing. It just stops before you actually die.
AMHaven
27-04-2009, 20:56
My dad had to do it for work, (training to be a pilot). I don't really want to be a pilot, but that's around my level. (As long as no one was recording it. Replaying a video of that for others to see would be almost as bad I think)

So for money? Country? Family? IDK, I'll go with loved ones.
Neesika
27-04-2009, 20:58
I might be into it in it's less extreme version (no causing me brain damage or other irreparable harm and no actual death thanks) if I could have someone fucking the shit out of me at the same time.
No Names Left Damn It
27-04-2009, 21:00
A shitload of money. Other than that, I wouldn't. I can't deal with with not being able to breathe. I go berserk.
JuNii
27-04-2009, 22:45
Branching off from the topic "Sean Hannity agrees to be waterboarded for charity", what would motivate you to attempt to endure a session of waterboarding?
I wouldn't mind trying it... just for the experience.
You-Gi-Owe
28-04-2009, 03:13
I wouldn't mind trying it... just for the experience.

YOU DA MAN!!!!! :hail:

BTW, I actually have almost drowned. But I'm a freak. I said to myself, "so this is death...." Maybe the lack of oxygen made me funny.

Those terrorists are pussies.
Sarkhaan
28-04-2009, 04:44
probably on a dare...
Milks Empire
28-04-2009, 16:16
Never. Because it's torture, plain and simple. Anyone who has done it to someone in an interrogation, authorized doing so, or turned a blind eye to it while it was in progress should be charged and, if convicted, incarcerated for war crimes.
JuNii
28-04-2009, 18:07
YOU DA MAN!!!!! :hail:

BTW, I actually have almost drowned. But I'm a freak. I said to myself, "so this is death...." Maybe the lack of oxygen made me funny.

Those terrorists are pussies.

oh... I'd expect that I will be spilling the beans within the first minute... :tongue:

well... spilling something anyway... :D
Jingostic Monopolies
28-04-2009, 18:26
oh... I'd expect that I will be spilling the beans within the first minute... :tongue:

well... spilling something anyway... :D

Aw man, that's sick!

Hmm £60m per minute and I might consider it. So long as I didn't actually drown.
Western Mercenary Unio
28-04-2009, 20:04
Please. Tell me that you were joking, and actually realized this all along...

http://iamwords.iamramen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/facepalm21.jpg

What's up with that pic?
JuNii
28-04-2009, 20:30
Aw man, that's sick!
Hans: We'll need a pair of pliers and a rubber hose
Rene: No, not the pliers and rubber hose, I'll tell you everything I know!
Col Von Strom: Rene, it's so we can get the gas going (Indicates fireplace)
Rene: NOT THE GAS... I'll Tell you everything I don't know!

What's up with that pic?
his watch is not the wrong wrist.