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As a proud Englishman, I like to celebrate St George's Day (April 23). However, in my country, the town hall Guardianistas appear to see a red cross on a white background akin to a red rag to a bull. (Woe betide they twin their city with Barcelona.)

So, what are your thoughts on St George's Day?

Amongst the least relevant National Saint's days, and National Saints. If we are to have one, I'd sooner it be the Anglo-Saxon St.Edmund. Not a Roman soldier who served in Cyrenecia and lived under, if memor serves, Diocletian.

Amongst the least relevant National Saint's days, and National Saints. If we are to have one, I'd sooner it be the Anglo-Saxon St.Edmund. Not a Roman soldier who served in Cyrenecia and lived under, if memor serves, Diocletian.

So lobby the Pope. But I would rather Saint Alban or Richard the Lionheart.

But as St George is the patron saint of England there is nothing wrong with celebrating the day for the saint and for England.

"God for Harry, England and St George"-Henry V William Shakespeare

well i mean, doesn't it kind of discriminate against dragons?

He's the patron saint of England, ergo is typical english fashion should be celebrated with a bit of pomp and ceremony and a faint air of embarrassment about the whole thing.

Seriously, I quite like the understaded celebrations you get in some places - don't make a big deal about it but fly the English flag and put on a few events.

So, what are your thoughts on St George's Day?

You really want me to write down everything I am thinking today, all day long?

well its pretty much meh for me. i'm not the patriotic/nationalistic type, and celebrating a saint kinda goes against my largely a-religious views as well. if we got a bank holiday, on the other hand, i might be more amenable to the idea ;)

I shall be celebrating it though would prefer St Edmund or St Edward the Confessor as our patron saint

I couldn't care less about ritualistic symbols and expressions of national identity, and I find the whole thing more than a little silly.

So lobby the Pope. But I would rather Saint Alban or Richard the Lionheart.

But as St George is the patron saint of England there is nothing wrong with celebrating the day for the saint and for England.

"God for Harry, England and St George"-Henry V William Shakespeare

Richard the Lionheart? Despite the fact he grew up in France, lived in France, spoke French, got captured by the Germans, and out of 10 years as King spent less than six months in England?

Patron saint fail.

edit: Although he was gay, so that would be totally cool.

If it rains today doesn't it rain for forty days? That's going to suck.

If it rains today doesn't it rain for fourty days? That's going to suck.

Just as well it's sunny and nice then...

If it rains today doesn't it rain for forty days? That's going to suck.

I thought that's when you killed a spider....?

Huh, doing anything will make it rain for forty days I guess.

I thought that's when you killed a spider....?

Huh, doing anything will make it rain for forty days I guess.

I hear building an ark is a sure fire way to get it to rain for forty days.

I thought that's when you killed a spider....?

Huh, doing anything will make it rain for forty days I guess.

It's the UK, playing cricket is guarenteed to make it rain, bank holidays is guarenteed to give you rain, hell getting up in the morning probably means that, odds are, it's going to rain.

I hear building an ark is a sure fire way to get it to rain for forty days.

That notion is a bit arkhaic (SEE WHAT I DID THERE?!)

If it rains today doesn't it rain for forty days? That's going to suck.

That is St Swithun's Day

As a proud Englishman, I like to celebrate St George's Day (April 23). However, in my country, the town hall Guardianistas appear to see a red cross on a white background akin to a red rag to a bull. (Woe betide they twin their city with Barcelona.)

So, what are your thoughts on St George's Day?

Meh! *shrug* That preety much sums it up for me.

That is St Swithun's Day

Damn you St Swithun, you've made me look foolish again! One day, I'll have my revenge, one day...

It's the UK, playing cricket is guarenteed to make it rain, bank holidays is guarenteed to give you rain, hell getting up in the morning probably means that, odds are, it's going to rain.

The British Bank holidays were set up based on when cricket matches happened in a particular legislators local villages.

The British Bank holidays were set up based on when cricket matches happened in a particular legislators local villages.

And so it all becomes clear - it's all cricket's fault!

Huzzah, also sorry.

(SEE WHAT I DID THERE?!)

No, I don't, not at all.

Richard the Lionheart? Despite the fact he grew up in France, lived in France, spoke French, got captured by the Germans, and out of 10 years as King spent less than six months in England?

He was still king of England so no patron saint success


edit: Although he was gay, so that would be totally cool.

You better have some legit sources to back up your shit.

(SEE WHAT I DID THERE?!)

No.

Ah, if we change saints, would we have to change the flag as well? Does Edmund have his own flag?

You better have some legit sources to back up your shit.

Gay may be pushing it, but I believe there are indications he may have had homosexual relationships - though he also had quite a few heterosexual ones. Bisexual may be better.

Hurrah tea and stickies all round!

I went to the pub and got cheap beer and then ate a ton of buns with St Georges flag on them in icing

well i mean, doesn't it kind of discriminate against dragons?

maybe they should stop eating virgins and stuff then

Gay may be pushing it, but I believe there are indications he may have had homosexual relationships - though he also had quite a few heterosexual ones. Bisexual may be better.

Indeed but is seems that eveyrone who was famous was gay these days. It is as if it is a hidden agenda to show everyone was famous these day as if it makes their sexuality legit

When in reality it doesn't matter if no one famouswas gay or not it shouldnt mske any difference it is still alright to be gay. I just ahte the this revisonist history in an attempt to say look gay is alright. I'm sorry but it is stupid to use this argumen t because it doesn't matter it is aslright anyway.

maybe they should stop eating virgins and stuff then

But I hear virginity makes the meat much more tender - you need epic amounts of ketchup otherwise. Hence why adventurers are advised they are crunchy and taste good with ketchup - although given most roleplayers....

Richard the Lionheart? Despite the fact he grew up in France, lived in France, spoke French, got captured by the Germans, and out of 10 years as King spent less than six months in England?

Patron saint fail.

edit: Although he was gay, so that would be totally cool.

Richard was born raised and lived in the Angevin empire; it was entirely politically prudent to have his court, itinerant though it was, in it's continental domains. The risk of secession as far greater from Aquitaine, Normandy et al. than in his British holdings. In comparison to the Roman, African George, Richard is undoubtdly English. That Edmund has a vastly superior claim to national sainthood if something so nebulous as "Englishness" is considered is clearly immaterial though.

He wasn't homosexual either.

Huzzah, also sorry.

This sums it up quite nicely.

SNIP

you can't fight it, when you die everyone is so gonna be questioning your sexuality

But I hear virginity makes the meat much more tender - you need epic amounts of ketchup otherwise. Hence why adventurers are advised they are crunchy and taste good with ketchup - although given most roleplayers....

well you wouldn't want to be sent back to the village now would you?

actually come to think of it the dragons probably starved to death with that kind of attitude in Britain

You really want me to write down everything I am thinking today, all day long?
I was going for general thoughts, as this is NS General.

Richard was born raised and lived in the Angevin empire; it was entirely politically prudent to have his court, itinerant though it was, in it's continental domains. The risk of secession as far greater from Aquitaine, Normandy et al. than in his British holdings. In comparison to the Roman, African George, Richard is undoubtdly English. That Edmund has a vastly superior claim to national sainthood if something so nebulous as "Englishness" is considered is clearly immaterial though.

He wasn't homosexual either.

If you're going for kings, why not Alfred?

If you're going for kings, why not Alfred?

Or indeed Athelstan, his grandson, defeated the Scots, Irish and Vikings in one epic battle, and became first king of England?

Or indeed Athelstan, his grandson, defeated the Scots, Irish and Vikings in one epic battle, and became first king of England?

A trifecta! Good man, Athelstan.

As a proud Englishman, I like to celebrate St George's Day (April 23). However, in my country, the town hall Guardianistas appear to see a red cross on a white background akin to a red rag to a bull. (Woe betide they twin their city with Barcelona.)

So, what are your thoughts on St George's Day?

Guardianistas?

Guardianistas?

People, like me, who read the Guardian

People, like me, who read the Guardian

Don't you mean "Poplee leik em woh rade teh Grauniad?"

Frankly, I'm not at all patriotic, and this has caused more that one argument about where the UK stands in Europe with an ever-so-socially-conservative friend of mine.

People, like me, who read the Guardian

You make me sick!

Do you eat free-range vegetables and organic chickens, too?

Don't you think it's time you grew up, put down your leftie broadsheets, pick up a copy of The Sun and start felating Richard Littlejohn whilst complaining about the politically correct socialist hivemind of your local council?

I'm confused as to why your Town Hall denizens, "Guardianistas" or no, would object to the display of the actual English flag. It is bizarre.

New Zealand has no patron saint, which is probably a good thing seeing if we were assigned one we'd probably get whoever's in charge of curing athlete's foot. Some really budget apocryphal Christianized former pagan godling.

Don't you mean "Poplee leik em woh rade teh Grauniad?"

I think I need a new keyboard.

Frankly, I'm not at all patriotic, and this has caused more that one argument about where the UK stands in Europe with an ever-so-socially-conservative friend of mine.

nothing wrong with being proud of where you came from is there? course England is a very tribal nation with everyone hating one another but thats what being English is all about!

I'm confused as to why your Town Hall denizens, "Guardianistas" or no, would object to the display of the actual English flag. It is bizarre.

its racist duh!

As a proud Englishman, I like to celebrate St George's Day (April 23). However, in my country, the town hall Guardianistas appear to see a red cross on a white background akin to a red rag to a bull. (Woe betide they twin their city with Barcelona.)

So, what are your thoughts on St George's Day?

Who?

I'm confused as to why your Town Hall denizens, "Guardianistas" or no, would object to the display of the actual English flag. It is bizarre.


For a while flying the English flag was heavily associated with the National Front and similar racist movements.

Or indeed Athelstan, his grandson, defeated the Scots, Irish and Vikings in one epic battle, and became first king of England?

Is he a saint?

I am partial to ST. Andrew myself, truth be told.

Hey, here's an excellent read with a twist:
http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-George-Gordon-R-Dickson/dp/0345350502

I was going for general thoughts, as this is NS General.

Sorry, never made it past soldier...

Hurrah tea and stickies all round!

I went to the pub and got cheap beer and then ate a ton of buns with St Georges flag on them in icing



maybe they should stop eating virgins and stuff then

doesn't that kind of depend on the kind of eating?
(also virgins? what virgins?
so prechristian priesthoods might have done some stupid stuff too.
always blame it on the poor dragons.)

well over there you guys are a little more reasonable.
if all around means tea and biscuits for the dragons too.

good thing we don't have anything like 'saint' george's day over here.
people on this side of the pond just don't seem to have that kind of sense.