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(Partially inspired by Trve's Holocaust Remembrance thread.)

So, what are some movies, if any, that made you cry? Only two come to mind for me - The Pianist and, more recently, Marley and Me. I'm sure other Holocaust films would also make me cry, but to be honest, The Pianist is the only one I've seen so far.

Any half-decent romantic comedy with its sickening, yet irritatingly effective, heart-warming happy ending. I generally don't watch serious films that might properly upset me, since I generally look on the purpose of watching a film as to cheer me up. I would find watching a holocaust-related film very difficult, and I'm not sure that I ever have.

Any half-decent romantic comedy with its sickening, yet irritatingly effective, heart-warming happy ending. I generally don't watch serious films that might properly upset me, since I generally look on the purpose of watching a film as to cheer me up. I would find watching a holocaust-related film very difficult, and I'm not sure that I ever have.

Trust me, The Pianist is very difficult. But it is important to watch. Mississippi Burning (especially the church scene) and Cry Freedom (the ending) aren't exactly easy watching, either.

Being the complete failure of a man that I am it takes practically fuck all to start me off..

I'm such a soft sack of shite..

Duplicity.

I'm pretty easy to make cry, but Holocaust films definitely do a good job of it. I pretty much spent the last half hour of "La Vita e Bella" bawling continuously, for example.

Real men dont cry.

Watership down, Pokemon the Movie and probabaly a ton of other films when I was younger

not so much these days but I remember my eyes mysteriously watering during V, no worry about holocaust films though maybe because I know it was all a lie :p

Real men dont cry.

If you're an animal lover, Marley and Me will probably do it. And I have yet to meet a person who didn't cry watching The Pianist.

Duplicity.

I'm not familiar with that one.

If you're an animal lover, Marley and Me will probably do it. And I have yet to meet a person who didn't cry watching The Pianist.

You must be the dirty kind that holds-open doors for men.

If you're an animal lover, Marley and Me will probably do it. And I have yet to meet a person who didn't cry watching The Pianist.

I was totally kidding with my comment anyway.

Honestly though, I cant remember the last time I saw a movie that made me cry. Made me uncomfortable or deeply bothered me, yeah, but I think its been a while since I saw a movie that made me cry.

Ive never seen Marley and Me or The Pianist though. The first because it looked lame. The latter because I just havent gotten around to it.

You must be the dirty kind that holds-open doors for men.

I hold open doors for both genders, actually. :)

I'm not familiar with that one.

It sucks.

On a more serious note, Barry Lyndon made me shed a few tears, and Paths of Glory drew the most out of me any film ever has.

If you're an animal lover, Marley and Me will probably do it.

surely you mean old yeller *walks out of thread in disgust*

actually was that film any good?

And I have yet to meet a person who didn't cry watching The Pianist.

you've met one the film just didn't really have that effect on me tbh :/

I was totally kidding with my comment anyway.

Honestly though, I cant remember the last time I saw a movie that made me cry. Made me uncomfortable or deeply bothered me, yeah, but I think its been a while since I saw a movie that made me cry.

Ive never seen Marley and Me or The Pianist though. The first because it looked lame. The latter because I just havent gotten around to it.

What about Pete's Dragon?

I hold open doors for both genders, actually. :)

Fag.

What about Pete's Dragon?

Eh?

surely you mean old yeller *walks out of thread in disgust*

actually was that film any good?

Old Yeller was very touching, too. Marley and Me was a bit on the slow side, but a very good film nonetheless.

you've met one the film just didn't really have that effect on me tbh :/

Well, you can't win 'em all. ;)

Fag.

How so? :p

Eh?


Seriously? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHboMLW-Zn0)
It's a disney classic!

The Pianist made me cry because of the knowledge that such a bad movie won several Oscars.

Disregarding movies that made me cry for all the wrong reasons, however, I'll have to mention The Shawshank Redemption and Bridge to Terabithia. I think I can remember one more...

Real men dont cry.

Boys don't cry. That one made me cry.

How so? :p

An inside joke: A poster said a while back that he did not open doors for men because it made him appear homosexual.

Seriously? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHboMLW-Zn0)
It's a disney classic!

Ooooh right, that one.


Im sure when I was like 5 (when I last saw it) I teared up. Im thinking about ones recently that I remember.


Honestly, I dont watch sad movies nowadays.

The Pianist brought to tears several times.

The Pianist made me cry because of the knowledge that such a bad movie won several Oscars.

I thoroughly disagree with you there, Mr. Kent. :p

(Partially inspired by Trve's Holocaust Remembrance thread.)

So, what are some movies, if any, that made you cry? Only two come to mind for me - The Pianist and, more recently, Marley and Me. I'm sure other Holocaust films would also make me cry, but to be honest, The Pianist is the only one I've seen so far.

It's a Beautiful Life is another similar Holocaust film. I really couldn't help breaking out at the end of that one.

The Shawshank Redemption[/I]

See, that one profoundly disturbed me more then it made me cry.

An inside joke: A poster said a while back that he did not open doors for men because it made him appear homosexual.

What's wrong with appearing homosexual?

What's wrong with appearing homosexual?

Do not ask me.

What's wrong with appearing homosexual?

Well it's bad enough just having one gender that doesn't acknowledge your existance but to have two is really quite depressing..

See, that one profoundly disturbed me more then it made me cry.

I don't understand how he got into that shit pipe? All he had was a rock!

It's a Beautiful Life is another similar Holocaust film. I really couldn't help breaking out at the end of that one.
Life is Beautiful, and yes, that one had me tearing up.

I'm a sucker for a maudlin string section and regularly get dewy-eyed. The Pianist is certainly one, but last night I watched Fever Pitch (the proper version) and even that got me going. The only film, though, that makes me actually weep, cry not a single tear but cascading, dehydrating streams of water, that reduces me to a sobbing ball of infancy, is ET.

2001, when Dave unplugged HAL, and HAL sang "Bicyle Built For Two."

Dances With Wolves, when they tried (unsuccessfully) to make 200 buffalo look like several million.

The Who Live at Lyon, when I saw how old my heroes have become.

More?

The only one I can think of at the moment is in the remake of I Am Legend.

The dog scene. :(

Philadelphia and El laberinto del fauno.

SAW III, John Kramer shouldn't have died. :(

But it was part of his overall plan.

The only one I can think of at the moment is in the remake of I Am Legend.

The dog scene. :(

don't you dare. Don't you fucking dare.

(Partially inspired by Trve's Holocaust Remembrance thread.)

So, what are some movies, if any, that made you cry? Only two come to mind for me - The Pianist and, more recently, Marley and Me. I'm sure other Holocaust films would also make me cry, but to be honest, The Pianist is the only one I've seen so far.

Try Night and Fog. Half an hour in the dark in Holocaust lecture with tears pouring down my face.

Philadelphia and El laberinto del fauno.

I haven't seen Philadelphia, but I don't think it would make me cry so much as it would make me angry.

don't you dare. Don't you fucking dare.

I actually sobbed through that, all slack-jawed like, "I can't fucking believe they are doing this."

There are more than a few, but I don't remember most of them specifically.

I saw Gettysburg (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107007/) in the theater when I was ten, and Pickett's Charge made me cry. Mostly because I felt the whole thing was a gigantic fucking waste of life.

It would not have the same effect on me if I were to view it for the first time at my current age...but at the time, it had a profound effect.

SAW III, John Kramer shouldn't have died. :(

But it was part of his overall plan.

You're really quite frightening sometimes.

don't you dare. Don't you fucking dare.

I can't help it. Brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it!

Oddly, Schindler's List doesn't effect me much. I guess it's cuz there's no surprise factor when you're watching a movie about the Holocaust, while I was completely taken off-guard with what I thought was gonna be a Will Smith Is A Badass romp.

Nothing at all in movies.

You're really quite frightening sometimes.

oh thank god, it wasn't just me.

Rent. The Trip (2002). Milk. Donnie Darko, I think. Probably others.

Movie that made me cry: It's a Wonderful Life. I remember my mom watching earlier in life and crying at the end and I laughed at her. Then one christmas once I got to the end I was crying too. Considering my actions I probably should have seen that one coming.

Movie that made me cry: It's a Wonderful Life. I remember my mom watching earlier in life and crying at the end and I laughed at her. Then one christmas once I got to the end I was crying too. Considering my actions I probably should have seen that one coming.

It's a Wonderful Life made me a little teary-eyed, but I didn't actually cry.

It's a Wonderful Life made me a little teary-eyed, but I didn't actually cry.

Oh well my definition of cry must be different from yours then.

I haven't seen Philadelphia, but I don't think it would make me cry so much as it would make me angry.

I must add The Orphanage to that list.:(

Oh well my definition of cry must be different from yours then.

What I mean is that I didn't actually sob.

I actually sobbed through that, all slack-jawed like, "I can't fucking believe they are doing this."

Kinda takes you off guard, doesn't it?

And reminds you of every dog or cat that died... every beloved family pet that the vet said had to be put down because the world is just fucked-up enough so that watching your pet die is the only humane option.

Sigh...

You're really quite frightening sometimes.

Thank you! :D

oh thank god, it wasn't just me.

Actually it is just you. You're asleep, this whole reality is just a dream. Once you wake up, we'll all be gone.

Which is why we've induced coma on you.

We don't want to die...

Thank you! :D

you know, for someone who claims to be so "misanthropic" you seem to be quite willing to say anything that might get you attention...

Actually it is just you. You're asleep, this whole reality is just a dream. Once you wake up, we'll all be gone.

Which is why we've induced coma on you.

We don't want to die...

So then...I am the center of the universe. Fucking knew it.

you know, for someone who claims to be so "misanthropic" you seem to be quite willing to say anything that might get you attention...

I don't do anything to get attention, I just do things because well...it's fun.

Attention is just a side effect. Even if people did stop paying attention to me when I mess with them, I'd still mess with them.

Farewell my concubine made me cry.

The only movie I've seen that made me tear up as far as I can remember was in Castaway when he lost Wilson.

The only movie I've seen that made me tear up as far as I can remember was in Castaway when he lost Wilson.

Wiiiiilsooon!

I can cry at the drop of a hat if there is any showing of true affection or more so, compassion.



Off the top of my head ..


The Notebook
My Life
How Green was My Valley
Terms of Endearment
Beaches

Haven't seen many I guess.

Where the Red Fern Grows is one I want to see.

Ah, yes. My Life.

The only one I can think of at the moment is in the remake of I Am Legend.

The dog scene. :(

I wept through that whole movie.

But it was more about the butchering of one of my favorite books.

I must add The Orphanage to that list.:(

This one. It doesn't help that my little boy is almost a mirror for the kid in the film. I can't watch that movie again.

I wept through that whole movie.

But it was more about the butchering of one of my favorite books.

Well, I grew up watching The Omega Man, so I was already used to the notion of movies based on I Am Legend to, well, not be all that faithful to the book.

I wept through that whole movie.

But it was more about the butchering of one of my favorite books.

Ah, you know how I felt when I saw I, Robot then?:D

Shame that Will Smith has to ruin so many great books.

Haha, want to know something funny about little KoL? When I saw Top Gun as a kid (I think I was like....6?) I cried when Goose died.


Of course, last time I saw that movie (12 years later) I cried over the script.

Ah, you know how I felt when I saw I, Robot then?:D

Shame that Will Smith has to ruin so many great books.

To be fair, it can hardly be blamed on him, he didn't write the screenplays.

Haha, want to know something funny about little KoL? When I saw Top Gun as a kid (I think I was like....6?) I cried when Goose died.


Of course, last time I saw that movie (12 years later) I cried over the script.

that means you have turned pretentious


>I never got the movie anyway

There's Waldo

Ah, you know how I felt when I saw I, Robot then?:D

Shame that Will Smith has to ruin so many great books.

Well, it is a collection of short stories, what do you expect?

But if you would like a different film incarnation of I, Robot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3Rzia_1ux8

first Bambi then Life is Beautiful

Real men dont cry.
Machines don't cry

The first couple times I watched Save the Green Planet, Falling Down, Ginger Snaps, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance, On the Beach, Underground, Spider Baby, PU-239, and Grave of the Fireflies, I cried at the end. Lots of others too.
Yeah, I have nerdy tastes and cry easily.

To be fair, it can hardly be blamed on him, he didn't write the screenplays.
I know. He's a great actor, but he's always choosing roles that ruin such great books...
Well, it is a collection of short stories, what do you expect?

I'm sure they could have combined them in some way, or at least have kept the characters as they were.

I Am Sam
Apollo 13 (I know they come out of radio blackout, but at the end, after those four minutes and they finally do, that does it for me)
Immortal Beloved (the last 15 minutes make that movie, and because of it I try to watch every movie to the end)
Shawshank Redemption
Taking Chance
And just a bit, The Royal Tenenbaums.

I'm sure they could have combined them in some way, or at least have kept the characters as they were.

Sadly, that rarely happens with Hollywood.

Comparatively few movies have made me feel very emotional, but The Lord of the Rings came close with some of the "heroic charge" type scenes.

Changeling made my eyes water.

Am I the only person who wouldn't piss on Shawshank Redmption if it was on fire?

Am I the only person who wouldn't piss on Shawshank Redmption if it was on fire?

I would also refrain from pissing on a fire, particularly an electrical one.

I would also refrain from pissing on a fire, particularly an electrical one.
But then how do you intend to gain superpowers? I'll bet you're the sort of person who uses sunscreen. Hell, you'd probably even call the fire department if a strange object (probably from space) fell into your yard, without even running up and grabbing it.

Grave of the Fireflies and Wall-e, deffinantly. By the end of both of these movies I was bawling, though my crying turned to tears of joy once Wall-e was completely finished. I still can't believe they showed Grave of the Fireflies in my sixth grade class, but I'm glad they did.

Grave of the Fireflies, yes, I cried a lot with that movie.

I cried after Atonement for like...30 minutes? People thought I was crazy in that Café. I thought it was PMS, then I saw that movie again and cried again, so it wasn't PMS. I think it is the movie that has made me cry more so far.

I cried with "La Vita é Bella" and also with "La Noche de los Lápices", (an argentine movie "The night of the pencils"). I usually do not cry with every movie, but then again I'm not as hard as most.

Weird moment of crying? I cried in Trainspotting

Return of the King

Dunkirk

Grave of the Fireflies made me cry, a lot of other movies have brought me to crying too but alas... my recalling ability for movie names sucks...

Christ...hmm...probably easier to name films that did'nt make me cry. And by cry I mean at least well up a bit.

This one. It doesn't help that my little boy is almost a mirror for the kid in the film. I can't watch that movie again.

I know what you mean. The way the boy dies and what the mother goes through is, just... :(

I can't remember the last time I cried, but pretty much only Schindler's List put me close. Boy in the Striped Pyjamas was quite intense as well.

I cry every time they let Adam Sandler make a film.

And no No True Scotsman you aren't alone in loathing Shawshank Redemption.

Serenity. Two scenes in particular caused me to tear up a bit:
Wash and Book. :(

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And, even though it's not a movie but a TV show, Futurama. You know the episode.

Pirates of The Caribbean,part III

I deeply regret I actually spent my hard-won money to watch that cr*p..

I cried after Atonement for like...30 minutes? People thought I was crazy in that Café. I thought it was PMS, then I saw that movie again and cried again, so it wasn't PMS. I think it is the movie that has made me cry more so far.I cried over how horrid that movie was. The fact that it was booked as an epic love story was insulting. Boinking for a couple of minutes does not an emotional connection make.

And, even though it's not a movie but a TV show, Futurama. You know the episode.The dog one? Oh yeah. That caught me off guard.

The dog one? Oh yeah. That caught me off guard.

My eyes get watery even thinking about that episode. Seymour!!!!:(

Beautiful Thing is the only one I can remember.
Brokeback Mountain probably would too, if I ever see it.

first Bambi then Life is Beautiful

Bambi isn't sad, the artist stops drawing the deer- so fucking what?

I thoroughly disagree with you there, Mr. Kent. :p
No surprise there. For some reason, many people seem to like it - the Academy included.

Dunno, for some reason I didn't like that movie - nor did I like La vita è bella either.

See, that one profoundly disturbed me more then it made me cry.

For my part, it did both.

Bambi isn't sad, the artist stops drawing the deer- so fucking what?

It represents the loss of a parent, the only one he knew about personally. How is this happy? For many children who watch it this will be the first exposure to that possibility, and for adults who remember watching it as children it can still have quite a deep effect; it's actually very sensitively dealt with.

If you don't like anthropomorphising non-human characters then don't watch Disney.

I don't think I've ever cried during a movie, but there is one scene in Crash, where the little girl who is terrified of being shot gets shot, that definitely made my eyes mist up quite a bit.

It represents the loss of a parent, the only one he knew about personally. How is this happy? For many children who watch it this will be the first exposure to that possibility, and for adults who remember watching it as children it can still have quite a deep effect; it's actually very sensitively dealt with.

If you don't like anthropomorphising non-human characters then don't watch Disney.

It's not sad though, it's ridiculous.

Am I the only person who wouldn't piss on Shawshank Redmption if it was on fire?
i am baffled by its popularity since it has such an uneven tone. i wouldnt watch it a second time but i would put it out if it were on fire.

It's not sad though, it's ridiculous.

Imagine if your mother was hunted and shot in the name 'fun', all with you there with her.

Imagine if your mother was hunted and shot in the name 'fun', all with you there with her.

Eh, hes 16. He's still in that "Im super tough" phase all teenage males go through. Let it go.

The dog one? Oh yeah. That caught me off guard.

My eyes get watery even thinking about that episode. Seymour!!!!:(

It's said you can always tell if somebody is a Futurama fan by humming "Walking on Sunshine" and seeing if their eyes start to mist up.

It's said you can always tell if somebody is a Futurama fan by humming "Walking on Sunshine" and seeing if their eyes start to mist up.

Nanatsu-chin is sad now.:(

Eh, hes 16. He's still in that "Im super tough" phase all teenage males go through. Let it go.

Since he is a vegetarian for moral purposes, I would say he shows an awful lot more compassion to animals than persons who eat them but feel sorry for them in cartoons.

Star Wars: Episode I. I cried when I realized that Star Wars was dying.
Star Wars: Episode II. What have they done with the once-legendary series of movies? *sob* What did Star Wars do to deserve this? DX You could tell the movie wanted to die so badly. The pain of mediocrity was so horrible. It must have felt like a million tiny, flaming swords cutting up your insides. Like flying into the sun without dying or being overcome by shock. Feeling the sun's burning gasses frying every inch of your body, leaving no fingertip or testicle unburned. The crushing gravity. Poor movie.

Imagine if your mother was hunted and shot in the name 'fun', all with you there with her.

I'd kill whoever shot her, not cry.

I'd kill whoever shot her, not cry.

I thought you said violence never solves problems.

http://www.animatedpics.org/images/characters/spock%20eyebrow.gif

Fascinating.

The only movie I've seen that made me tear up as far as I can remember was in Castaway when he lost Wilson.

Castaway wasn't half bad, but since I know a lot of FedEx pilots, I get a clue in on another reaction to the movie. The pilot opinion of the film is a slight peeve because the pilots die and a manager lives, but then it's also a warning that if you die management is going to take your shoes.

Wiiiiilsooon!

Haha, want to know something funny about little KoL? When I saw Top Gun as a kid (I think I was like....6?) I cried when Goose died.

I'm guilty of crying over Goose as well, but I'm a military brat. I kept imagining Goose as my dad or one of my many "uncles."



Movies that have made me cry, that I can remember, Titanic but not for the faux love story, the sinking and all that loss of life got me. That ship's story got me into my field, marine archaeology. The band playing "Nearer My God to Thee" (Or "Autumn" take your pick) as the ship ship went down, Guggenheim changing into his best so he could "Die like a gentleman", Isador and Ida Straus embracing at the end. *shakes head* Yes, I'm a Romantic and like the noted drama of the First Class passengers, but the whole thing was so damned sad and wasteful. Second and Third don't have their stories, that's kinda what got me into archaeology.


Other than that Saving Private Ryan, Blackhawk Down, Bambi, the dog scene and the family getting in the helo scene in I Am Legend...dramas and romances don't get me. Bein' a history buff and a military brat, well done war movies do. Valkyrie almost got me and I knew entire plot before I went in there. I knew what was going to happen, but it was agonizingly sad about how close it came and then painful to watch the long, hard fall.

Since he is a vegetarian for moral purposes, I would say he shows an awful lot more compassion to animals than persons who eat them but feel sorry for them in cartoons.

Although cruelty through hunting may be considered a political motive in the film, the suffering in terms of grief is more important. And killing for pleasure is not comparable to killing for food.

I'd kill whoever shot her, not cry.

Well, aren't we a 'real man'.

And, even though it's not a movie but a TV show, Futurama. You know the episode.

Oh god yeah. Can't believe I forgot that one ... I am not looking forward to watching that with my boyfriend, I tear up every time I see it. It's hard to explain to someone else

There are just things I don't watch with him for that reason.

I would also refrain from pissing on a fire, particularly an electrical one.

Where's your sense of adventure... :D

I cried after Atonement for like...30 minutes?

That was my ex, after the end of "Phenomenon".

Serenity. Two scenes in particular caused me to tear up a bit:
Wash and Book. :(

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And, even though it's not a movie but a TV show, Futurama. You know the episode.

Agreed, agreed, agreed... and, haven't seen the right episode of Futurama, I guess.

Although cruelty through hunting may be considered a political motive in the film, the suffering in terms of grief is more important.

The the fact is that he has more real-life compassion than the lot of you, and you are upset that he does not feel sorry for a fictional character.

And killing for pleasure is not comparable to killing for food.

Since you can be perfectly healthy without meat, yes it is. You eat meat mostly for the pleasure.

I am Legend - Putting down the Dog scene (Sammy?)

Dammit, even as the manly man wannabe that I am, I still couldn't hold my composure watching that one.

Eh, hes 16. He's still in that "Im super tough" phase all teenage males go through. Let it go.

And I'm in that phase, so watch it! ;)

The the fact is that he has more real-life compassion than the lot of you, and you are upset that he does not feel sorry for a fictional character.



Since you can be perfectly healthy without meat, yes it is. You eat meat mostly for the pleasure.

The idea that you are either compassionate or a meat-eater is a false dichotomy. Or - as they say down our way, bullshit.

The point of the Bambi movie isn't to examine what life is like for a deer. It's not 'about' being an animal. It's about dealing with loss of a parent, and doing so in very human terms. It just so happens that the characters are drawn to look like animals - but to see it in such superficial terms is to miss the point... and I already feel somewhat ridiculous at having to discuss the possibility that someone would miss the point of schmaltzy, mawkish crap like Disney.

Agreed, agreed, agreed... and, haven't seen the right episode of Futurama, I guess.

I am a leaf in the wind.....

and, of course, "not very christian of me"

The idea that you are either compassionate or a meat-eater is a false dichotomy. Or - as they say down our way, bullshit.

The point of the Bambi movie isn't to examine what life is like for a deer. It's not 'about' being an animal. It's about dealing with loss of a parent, and doing so in very human terms. It just so happens that the characters are drawn to look like animals - but to see it in such superficial terms is to miss the point... and I already feel somewhat ridiculous at having to discuss the possibility that someone would miss the point of schmaltzy, mawkish crap like Disney.

I am not attacking you, I am just saying it is fucking asinine for meat-eaters to attack a vegetarian for not feeling compassion for an animal in a fucking Disney cartoon.

Surely you see me point? We are a silly, fluffy, hypocritical society.

I am a leaf in the wind.....

and, of course, "not very christian of me"

That man is a god. A bastard, yes.... but godlike, also.

Browncoats! Represent!

I am not attacking you, I am just saying it is fucking asinine for meat-eaters to attack a vegetarian for not feeling compassion for an animal in a fucking Disney cartoon.

Surely you see me point? We are a silly, fluffy, hypocritical society.

I see your point, absolutely. Babyseals getting their heads clubbed = bad, 'cuz baby seals are cute and fluffy. Fish gutted live is fine, because fish don't have any feelings. We know this because they are NOT cute and fluffy.

But as I pointed out, Bambi isn't ABOUT compassion for an animal. It's about compassion for a child, losing a parent. As most Disney is, on some level, it's about a destroyed family.

You dion't HAVE to care about animals, or NOT care, to 'get' Bambi. You just have to understand that anthropomorphism in storytelling isn't about telling stories about animals-that-talk-like-men... it's about people-that-look-like-animals.

I see your point, absolutely. Babyseals getting their heads clubbed = bad, 'cuz baby seals are cute and fluffy. Fish gutted live is fine, because fish don't have any feelings. We know this because they are NOT cute and fluffy.

But as I pointed out, Bambi isn't ABOUT compassion for an animal. It's about compassion for a child, losing a parent. As most Disney is, on some level, it's about a destroyed family.

You dion't HAVE to care about animals, or NOT care, to 'get' Bambi. You just have to understand that anthropomorphism in storytelling isn't about telling stories about animals-that-talk-like-men... it's about people-that-look-like-animals.

It is still silly, because the fact that RoI is a vegetarian and totally anti-war shows him to be extremely (some might say unreasonably) compassionate, yet we have posters whining because he did not cry about the ordeals of a drawing.

We are just a crazy bunch. Actions means shit, and appearance is everything. No one cares what you do, so long as you talk about how sad poverty is, and drop your three bucks on a coffee. It is fucking disgraceful

It is still silly, because the fact that RoI is a vegetarian and totally anti-war shows him to be extremely (some might say unreasonably) compassionate, yet we have posters whining because he did not cry about the ordeals of a drawing.

We are just a crazy bunch. Actions means shit, and appearance is everything. No one cares what you do, so long as you talk about how sad poverty is, and drop your three bucks on a coffee. It is fucking disgraceful

This is also - while possible very cathartic for you - nonsensical as a universal statement. Which is - of course - usually the case with universal statements, which is why they are such a weak debate tool.


Being a vegitarian - even for 'ethical' reasons, doesn't intrinsically say ANYTHING about your compassion. Being anti-war, the same. It is entirely possible to be 'against' both things on ethical grounds, without any kind of sympathetic or empathic resonance. A kind of 'ethical' utilitarianism.

Which - when you look at the same person saying they were unaffected by a tale of a youngster losing his one remaining parent, certainly seems like a fair assessment.

This is also - while possible very cathartic for you - nonsensical as a universal statement. Which is - of course - usually the case with universal statements, which is why they are such a weak debate tool.


Being a vegitarian - even for 'ethical' reasons, doesn't intrinsically say ANYTHING about your compassion. Being anti-war, the same. It is entirely possible to be 'against' both things on ethical grounds, without any kind of sympathetic or empathic resonance. A kind of 'ethical' utilitarianism.

Which - when you look at the same person saying they were unaffected by a tale of a youngster losing his one remaining parent, certainly seems like a fair assessment.

I am not affected by the cartoon. But I am much hurt by real-life happenings, and I am sure RoI is, too.

I am not affected by the cartoon. But I am much hurt by real-life happenings, and I am sure RoI is, too.

And, you think, 'real life' is not (at least) reflected by the cartoon?

Someone already mentioned Titanic. The old couple on the bed, embracing as the water rises up around the bed - the mother trying to calm her two children. Both these are powerful scenes. Not because I am incapable of realising that those are actors. I'm well aware. I understand suspension of disbelief. I understand that a grand total of five people in two scenes, is not in any way representative of the SCALE of that particular tragedy.

But, what it does, is it makes the tragedy personal. Intimate. It enables you to understand that 3000 dead isn't just numbers, it's 3000 tragic iterations of one person dying.

Bambi isn't real life - but it is representative of real life. It's hard to imagine you really do 'feel hurt' by real-life happenings, when you show no response to a representation of them.

I am a leaf in the wind.....

http://generalitemafia.ipbfree.com/uploads/ipbfree.com/generalitemafia/emo-cry.gif

I've got something in my eye, damn sand blowing everywhere...

No surprise there. For some reason, many people seem to like it - the Academy included.

Well, somebody has to hate it. :p

Oh, and get a new disguise. ;)

Star Wars: Episode I. I cried when I realized that Star Wars was dying.
Star Wars: Episode II. What have they done with the once-legendary series of movies? *sob* What did Star Wars do to deserve this? DX You could tell the movie wanted to die so badly. The pain of mediocrity was so horrible. It must have felt like a million tiny, flaming swords cutting up your insides. Like flying into the sun without dying or being overcome by shock. Feeling the sun's burning gasses frying every inch of your body, leaving no fingertip or testicle unburned. The crushing gravity. Poor movie.

I'd love to hear your opinion of Episode III. :tongue:

I am a leaf in the wind.....


Shutupshutupshutup. *cries*

And, you think, 'real life' is not (at least) reflected by the cartoon?

Someone already mentioned Titanic. The old couple on the bed, embracing as the water rises up around the bed - the mother trying to calm her two children. Both these are powerful scenes. Not because I am incapable of realising that those are actors. I'm well aware. I understand suspension of disbelief. I understand that a grand total of five people in two scenes, is not in any way representative of the SCALE of that particular tragedy.

But, what it does, is it makes the tragedy personal. Intimate. It enables you to understand that 3000 dead isn't just numbers, it's 3000 tragic iterations of one person dying.

Bambi isn't real life - but it is representative of real life. It's hard to imagine you really do 'feel hurt' by real-life happenings, when you show no response to a representation of them.

A: I can relate to a film better than a cartoon of animals, and I have cried about films, especially during the last scene of Paths of Glory.

B: "Imagine" what you will; I do "feel hurt", and I think my actions say that.

Well, somebody has to hate it. :p

Oh, and get a new disguise. ;)

This one has worked well so far. After all, you did not recognize me at first. I guess you do not recall a mysterious black marketeer and smuggler called Otto with whom you used to dine and plot and play the biscuit game, at the Old Pizzle in Dover? Mwahahahaha!

This one has worked well so far. After all, you did not recognize me at first. I guess you do not recall a mysterious black marketeer and smuggler called Otto with whom you used to dine and plot and play the biscuit game, at the Old Pizzle in Dover? Mwahahahaha!

That was you!? :eek2:

The the fact is that he has more real-life compassion than the lot of you, and you are upset that he does not feel sorry for a fictional character.

How presumptuous of you. Both to do with compassion and being upset.

I am just saying it is fucking asinine for meat-eaters to attack a vegetarian for not feeling compassion for an animal in a fucking Disney cartoon.

It is still silly, because the fact that RoI is a vegetarian and totally anti-war shows him to be extremely (some might say unreasonably) compassionate, yet we have posters whining because he did not cry about the ordeals of a drawing.

You entirely misunderstand what I disagreed with him about and have used it to go on a tirade about vegetarianism. It's really quite amusing.

He said it was not sad. I disagreed based on it's representation of relationships and grief. The basis is not about animals or cruelty towards them. Nor was it about specifically crying over this film, merely that it is a sad scene in the film, as any other film with a death of a family member in it.

That was you!? :eek2:

Yes! I...was the waitress!

I cried over how horrid that movie was. The fact that it was booked as an epic love story was insulting. Boinking for a couple of minutes does not an emotional connection make.

You haven't been correctly "boinked", maybe, although I guess it depends on the people. Maybe not for a couple of minutes, but actually frustrated and/or interrupted relationships are even more intense in time...

A: I can relate to a film better than a cartoon of animals, and I have cried about films, especially during the last scene of Paths of Glory.

B: "Imagine" what you will; I do "feel hurt", and I think my actions say that.

A: What about a cartoon of people? Is it just the medium? Because otherwise, we come back to you just 'not getting' Bambi.

B: Your 'actions' aren't open to assessment. Your claims to them would say you 'feel hurt', if your claims are true - but your actual responses to representations of tragic acts are apparently wildly variable, depending on whether a cartoon deer is used, or not.

Serenity. Two scenes in particular caused me to tear up a bit:
Wash and Book. :(

Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog

Repo! The Genetic Opera

And, even though it's not a movie but a TV show, Futurama. You know the episode.

The dog one? Oh yeah. That caught me off guard.

Honestly? While I did find the dog episode sad and touching, the one that actually brought me to tears was the one with the clover.

You haven't been correctly "boinked", maybe, although I guess it depends on the people. Maybe not for a couple of minutes, but actually frustrated and/or interrupted relationships are even more intense in time...No no, not for the people involved. Yeah, boinking (albeit partial boinking) probably got the emotions running for them. But from an audience member stand point I was left thinking, "why the hell do I care that you can't see your one night stand again?" The movie never detailed that connection for me.

Honestly? While I did find the dog episode sad and touching, the one that actually brought me to tears was the one with the clover.The clover was a good one. Didn't cry because of that one. Sad, but not quite tear wrenching. Just that damn dog episode.