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http://blackouteurope.eu/

Freakin ridiculos. Its basicly cencorship of the internet!

Italso means my fathers will go out of buisness, he's self employed and his buisness operated soley over the internet.

But screw my thoughts, what does NSG thing?

(Sorry if there's a thread like this i couldnt find it)

That seems a bit naughty. But are we railing agianst any censorship, or a blanket type here?

http://blackouteurope.eu/

Freakin ridiculos. Its basicly cencorship of the internet!

Italso means my fathers will go out of buisness, he's self employed and his buisness operated soley over the internet.

But screw my thoughts, what does NSG thing?

(Sorry if there's a thread like this i couldnt find it)

It's a blog, and a whargarbl one too.

Edit: Sorry, I take that back - it's not a blog. It's a random fearmongering website. I shouldn't be so hard on the blogosphere.

I hate the EU. :mad:

It's a blog, and a whargarbl one too.

Edit: Sorry, I take that back - it's not a blog. It's a random fearmongering website. I shouldn't be so hard on the blogosphere.

Yeah, I didn't get the feeling of any professionalism from the site, and am therefore, tempted to be more skeptical,

It's not that it's unlikely, it just seems more likely that this person is not necessarily reliable.

I hate the EU. :mad:

Me too, bring back the Deutsch Mark!

http://blackouteurope.eu/

Freakin ridiculos. Its basicly cencorship of the internet!

Italso means my fathers will go out of buisness, he's self employed and his buisness operated soley over the internet.

But screw my thoughts, what does NSG thing?

(Sorry if there's a thread like this i couldnt find it)

Hasn't that rumour been floating around for years now? I remember people screaming about it and trying to scare everyone when I was still living in Germany, 6 years ago.
It sounds like one of those "the EU wants to regulate the size of bananas!!!!" press inventions.

I hate the EU. :mad:

I love the EU. I live there, and it's great.

I love the EU. I live there, and it's great.

I live there too. But at least we still don't have the Euro.

I live there too. But at least we still don't have the Euro.

*shrugs*

It's just a piece of metal that's exchanged for goods and services, not a boogey man.

I live there too. But at least we still don't have the Euro.

And that is bad because....?

And that is bad because....?

What, having the Euro?

What, having the Euro?

Yes, or having the Euro if you'd rather.

If we don't have the Queen's head on our money, what's to protect us from going all foreign??!! Next thing you know we'll have labour laws that stop us working 80 hour weeks!

tsk tsk.

Yes, or having the Euro if you'd rather.

Cause the Pound is part of our history and our heritage.

Cause the Pound is part of our history and our heritage.

Ahhhh , and that means....?

That does nowt to explain why having the Euro is a bad thing? How far back in our history would you like to go to conserve our heritage? I mean by that logic shouldn't we all be pissed tha we are no longer part of the Roman Empire?

I can't speak Latin, nor moderen Italian, should I be pissed about my missing out on this part of my cultural hereitage?

Cause the Pound is part of our history and our heritage.

It's fucking metal. Get over it! The Greeks did and they have a stronger 'heritage' and 'history' case.

Let's have ONE thread about Europe that doesn't degrade into a pro/anti Euro currency wrangle, please?

:soap:

(i'm not actually angry, I just wanted a reason to use a smiley I've never used before... ahem)

Ahhhh , and that means....?

That does nowt to explain why having the Euro is a bad thing? How far back in our history would you like to go to conserve our heritage? I mean by that logic shouldn't we all be pissed tha we are no longer part of the Roman Empire?

I can't speak Latin, nor moderen Italian, should I be pissed about my missing out on this part of my cultural hereitage?

Language is different. The Pound is one of the last things we have left.

Cause the Pound is part of our history and our heritage.

*lol
So was the weird counting system you had for it, and that was dropped decades ago.

*lol
So was the weird counting system you had for it, and that was dropped decades ago.

That was awesome, I wish we had it back. We could make it more metric.

I have seen this popping up a few times (actually, an American friend of mine posted something similar on another forum I visit a week ago, about the US), and I just can't see how it's going to work. Even when ISP's get allowed to restrict websites, it doesn't mean they have to. I don't see how offering a package-only deal can be a profitable business model, as only 1 ISP needs to offer full access and the rest is out of business. Further, it's not only internet-only businesses that are affected, most companies conduct part of the business via the internet, be it offering product details and catalogues, contact details, recruiting, etc. The internet thrives on the provision of information by many content providers. If you lock out 99.9999% of all this information, you end up with a useless service that no-one would pay for. There are too many stakeholders against whose interest this would be, so I think this is nonsense.

Language is different. The Pound is one of the last things we have left.

Heh yeah sure it is. But lets pretend that you are in fact correct and that 'The pound is one of the last things we have left' (whatever that means?). What actual harm does getting rid of it, and adopting a single European currency do you us?

Heh yeah sure it is. But lets pretend that you are in fact correct and that 'The pound is one of the last things we have left' (whatever that means?). What actual harm does getting rid of it, and adopting a single European currency do you us?

It doesn't actually harm anyone. It doesn't bring anyone any good though. It will tarnish the countries history.

Heh yeah sure it is. But lets pretend that you are in fact correct and that 'The pound is one of the last things we have left' (whatever that means?). What actual harm does getting rid of it, and adopting a single European currency do you us?

Well, right at the moment I wouldn't recommend it... the pound is so weak compared with the Euro, it wouldn't bring you a lot. Give it another couple years.

"Sir, I think you've finally crossed that line between everyday villainy and cartoonish super-villainy"

Blacking out the Internet from Europe sounds like something a Bond villian would come up with, which admittedly would be slightly more impressive than the latest Bond villian. An environmental loon? Really? No-one is frightened of The Sierra Club. He even did a lot of girly screaming and flailing during his Big Climactic Fight Scene.

It doesn't actually harm anyone. It doesn't bring anyone any good though. It will tarnish the countries history.

Is this the same tarnishing that involved giving India (and others) independence? Or devolution for Scotland and others?

Is this the same tarnishing that involved giving India (and others) independence? Or devolution for Scotland and others?

The collapse of the empire is entirely different.

The collapse of the empire is entirely different.

As in, actually relevant?

It doesn't actually harm anyone. It doesn't bring anyone any good though. It will tarnish the countries history.

The point I'm trying to get at is what your reasons are for your dislike of the idea.

You have really only come up with some 'kneejerk' emotional slogans. I'm trying to figure out what 'reasonable', well thought out, intelectual reasons you have for your stance. You do have some don't you?

I hate the EU. :mad:

I don't. I don't love it either, but we'd collapse without it.

The point I'm trying to get at is what your reasons are for your dislike of the idea.

You have really only come up with some 'kneejerk' emotional slogans. I'm trying to figure out what 'reasonable', well thought out, intelectual reasons you have for your stance. You do have some don't you?

"Reasonable" and "intellectual" aren't words normally associated with me. The Pound is unique.

I don't. I don't love it either, but we'd collapse without it.

How would we?

It's a blog, and a whargarbl one too.

Edit: Sorry, I take that back - it's not a blog. It's a random fearmongering website. I shouldn't be so hard on the blogosphere.

Also, the blog itself says that it will be up to the provider companies to decide. So it's the liberist lobby at Strasbourg those against whom these people should protest.

The collapse of the empire is entirely different.

Not really. Both involve moving from a position of authority and control to one of less control and more sharing of power, bringing benefits to both sides.

"Reasonable" and "intellectual" aren't words normally associated with me. The Pound is unique.

Yeah uniqe in what way? And so in answer to my question, can I then asume that I was correct? You have no reasonable reasons for yours stance, it is just a gut reaction?

How would we?

Think of all the trade we'd lose. OK, the CAP is a bag of fail, and punishes our farmers for not being backwards, but other than that, the EU holds our economy up.

Yeah uniqe in what way? And so in answer to my question, can I then asume that I was correct? You have no reasonable reasons for yours stance, it is just a gut reaction?

I go with my gut reaction.

Think of all the trade we'd lose. OK, the CAP is a bag of fail, and punishes our farmers for not being backwards, but other than that, the EU holds our economy up.

The CAP is a pile of shyte, damn frogs :mad:. We could still trade with them.

I go with my gut reaction.

That is what I thought. Well thanks for you candor.

It's sad though, I well know that the world is more populated by people that act and 'think' as you do rather than those that act and think as I do, but it still makes me sad to see people just refuseing to use their reason, and instead trot out the same old lines handed down from generation to generation, with no real logic nor thought gone into it.

:(

The CAP is a pile of shyte, damn frogs :mad:. We could still trade with them.

Well colour me convinced.

Are you willfully ignoring the benefits of being interlinked into 26 open markets, or would you just like to sit on your wee little island off the coast and pout?

Feel free to emigrate, this isn't North Korea.

I go with my gut reaction.

Ah, well, my gut reaction (and informed opinion) is that you have no idea what's good or bad for the country.

See how baseless this is?

well either way ive contacted 10 MEP's and the EU is indeed considering it.

That is what I thought. Well thanks for you candor.

It's sad though, I well know that the world is more populated by people that act and 'think' as you do rather than those that act and think as I do, but it still makes me sad to see people just refuseing to use their reason, and instead trot out the same old lines handed down from generation to generation, with no real logic nor thought gone into it.

:(

It requires no thought, it's a no-brainer.

Btw, I believe the word is "candour".

Well colour me convinced.

Are you willfully ignoring the benefits of being interlinked into 26 open markets, or would you just like to sit on your wee little island off the coast and pout?

Feel free to emigrate, this isn't North Korea.

Perhaps you've forgotten the £43m a day we waste on them.


Emigrate to where?

Atalantis!

well either way ive contacted 10 MEP's and the EU is indeed considering it.
The EU is considering it?
Holy shit.

I thought it was just the European Parliament... oh wait...


Btw, I believe the word is "candour".

Eh, you're not one to give grammar and spelling corrections there sunshine.

Perhaps you've forgotten the £43m a day we waste on them.
Link, source, and definition of waste? (I hope this doesn't end up with you getting told about the rebate.)

Emigrate to where?
A country not in the EU.

It requires no thought, it's a no-brainer.

Btw, I believe the word is "candour".

Meh! Dyslexic me!

Yep you are right it is a no brain....er! But thinking about it for a moment or two, other then the same old rhetoric which you have been throwing us. What reasonable objectiions could you offer?

Eh, you're not one to give grammar and spelling corrections there sunshine.
Why do people miss out "u's"?

Link, source, and definition of waste? (I hope this doesn't end up with you getting told about the rebate.)

Even with the rebate, we put more in than we get out.
A country not in the EU.
Why would I do that?

Meh! Dyslexic me!
So am I.
Yep you are right it is a no brain....er! But thinking about it for a moment or two, other then the same old rhetoric which you have been throwing us. What reasonable objectiions could you offer?

Well, as you have yet to raise a reasonable reason to to have the Euro, I see little need in raising "reasonable objections".

Link, source, and definition of waste?

A fiver says the £43m figure was taken from the BNP website.

A fiver says the £43m figure was taken from the BNP website.

Sort of, Ya know that guy who posted on here for a bit "Dingle Nation"? You know, the homophobic one? He E-mailed it to me,, and I bet you a tenner that it was from that site.

Sort of, Ya know that guy who posted on here for a bit "Dingle Nation"? You know, the homophobic one? He E-mailed it to me,, and I bet you a tenner that it was from that site.

Is he still around?

Is he still around?

Kinda, he says he can't be arsed to post right now.

Kinda, he says he can't be arsed to post right now.

By can't be arsed he actually means his idiotic bullshit will be torn apart by everyone else, and is too scared to post.

By can't be arsed he actually means his idiotic bullshit will be torn apart by everyone else, and is too scared to post.

Pretty much. God that was fun. Do you remember his argument on that god thread? " Cos that's how god wants it", or something. Hilarious.

Well colour me convinced.

Are you willfully ignoring the benefits of being interlinked into 26 open markets, or would you just like to sit on your wee little island off the coast and pout?

Feel free to emigrate, this isn't North Korea.

Why should people simply leave if they don't like something? Why can't people attempt to change something if they don't like it?

Perhaps the english barons should have left instead of forcing King John to sign the Magna Carta?

Perhaps all those women shoud have left if they didn't like not having the right to vote.

Perhaps all those Scots who want to form an independent Scotland should just leave the UK.

So am I.

Well, as you have yet to raise a reasonable reason to to have the Euro, I see little need in raising "reasonable objections".

Ohhhh handbags! Since we have not yet got around to that part of the discusion, I'm gonna have to go with the tried and tested. 'I asked you first!'

Perhaps all those Scots who want to form an independent Scotland should just leave the UK.

Hehe
:p

Atalantis!
Indeed!.. The immigration policy is very lax, populated by some lovely people - just don't try to touch the little yellow pets... Gosh they hurt...
:(

Why should people simply leave if they don't like something? Why can't people attempt to change something if they don't like it?

Perhaps the english barons should have left instead of forcing King John to sign the Magna Carta?

Perhaps all those women shoud have left if they didn't like not having the right to vote.

Perhaps all those Scots who want to form an independent Scotland should just leave the UK.

Where did I say "Leave"? :confused:

I said "feel free to leave" as in, "you're not being kept here against your will" - like you would be in North Korea.

Feel free to stay or go, but if you're reasoning for 'not liking something' is not founded on fact or reason (and in fact, any points you have are completely disproved leaving you with simply a 'gut feeling'), why would you want to stay? *shrug* Seems nonsensical to me.

By the way as someone not from England how does the pound breakdown.

In the US

Penny, nickle, dime, quarter, 50 cent piece although rare these days, dollar both metallic and paper.

Canada is the same except now the dollar is mostly metal called a "Loonie" because it has a loon on one side, gold in color and no there is no chocolate inside, two dollar bill (yes as unlucky as you can get) kind of rare now. The first had Inuits(indigenous people who live in igloos) carving up a whale or something and now it has/had a bird, Robin I think could be an Oriole. Now these are mostly metal called a "Twoonie". Beats me why it actual has a polar bear on it. I suppose it has something to do with the loonie

By the way as someone not from England how does the pound breakdown.

In the US

Penny, nickle, dime, quarter, 50 cent piece although rare these days, dollar both metallic and paper.

Canada is the same except now the dollar is mostly metal called a "Loonie" because it has a loon on one side, gold in color and no there is no chocolate inside, two dollar bill (yes as unlucky as you can get) kind of rare now. The first had Inuits(indigenous people who live in igloos) carving up a whale or something and now it has/had a bird, Robin I think could be an Oriole. Now these are mostly metal called a "Twoonie". Beats me why it actual has a polar bear on it. I suppose it has something to do with the loonie

1 penny, 2 pence, 5 pence, 10 pence, 20 pence, 50 pence, 1 pound, 2 pounds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_of_the_pound_sterling

1 penny, 2 pence, 5 pence, 10 pence, 25 pence, 50 pence, 1 pound, 2 pounds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_of_the_pound_sterling

Thanks.

How much for one beer? In a pub let's say? New York you are looking at 6 dollars in a pub or more. Plus a tip.

How much for one beer? In a pub let's say? New York you are looking at 6 dollars in a pub or more. Plus a tip.

It's around £3 at the moment, depending on where you go of course.
And tipping bar staff in the UK is.... complicated, to say the least.

How much for one beer? In a pub let's say? New York you are looking at 6 dollars in a pub or more. Plus a tip.

Depends where you are. Up in York, which is relatively expensive for the north it's between £2 and £3, £3 for a decent pint (which I believe are bigger than US pints) - in London, much much more. Though there isn't a tradition of tipping bar staff, certainly not in the more traditional pubs (which I frequent).

By the way as someone not from England how does the pound breakdown.

In the US

Penny, nickle, dime, quarter, 50 cent piece although rare these days, dollar both metallic and paper.

Canada is the same except now the dollar is mostly metal called a "Loonie" because it has a loon on one side, gold in color and no there is no chocolate inside, two dollar bill (yes as unlucky as you can get) kind of rare now. The first had Inuits(indigenous people who live in igloos) carving up a whale or something and now it has/had a bird, Robin I think could be an Oriole. Now these are mostly metal called a "Twoonie". Beats me why it actual has a polar bear on it. I suppose it has something to do with the loonie

Pound coin(quid, nugget, etc..) 50 Pence piece, 20 pence, 10p, 5p, 2p, and 1p. We used to have a 1/2pence piece but we no longer do.

Okay so let's see 3 pounds
1 British pound = 1.12394909 Euros

3 * 1.12394909 = 3.37184727

I can see why they might not want to switch. If everything you do is on the old system it would take a lot of changing over would it not?

Depends where you are. Up in York, which is relatively expensive for the north it's between £2 and £3, £3 for a decent pint (which I believe are bigger than US pints) - in London, much much more. Though there isn't a tradition of tipping bar staff, certainly not in the more traditional pubs (which I frequent).

Yep, you can expect to now pay over £3 for a pint of lager in London(bitter is normaly cheaper), yet I was up in Georgdie land the other month and payed £1.20p for a pint of local larger.

As for tipping bar staff, well I never!

Okay so let's see 3 pounds
1 British pound = 1.12394909 Euros

3 * 1.12394909 = 3.37184727

I can see why they might not want to switch. If everything you do is on the old system it would take a lot of changing over would it not?

Huh? What you mean, it's all meteric here?

Okay so let's see 3 pounds
1 British pound = 1.12394909 Euros

3 * 1.12394909 = 3.37184727

I can see why they might not want to switch. If everything you do is on the old system it would take a lot of changing over would it not?

It did for everyone... some exchange rates were far worse than a mere 1.12

20 p??? Are you coining your own money??? :p ;)

Uh? What you talking about?

Okay so let's see 3 pounds
1 British pound = 1.12394909 Euros

3 * 1.12394909 = 3.37184727

I can see why they might not want to switch. If everything you do is on the old system it would take a lot of changing over would it not?

Nah, they'd have a transitional period as they changed stuff over and then probably just round all the prices up, so we'll be paying 3.50 Euros a pint instead. It's how it worked in every other country

...

No, they don't also round your wages up, don't be silly now :p

Huh? What you mean, it's all meteric here?

Good answer. I should have specified 1 pound sterling. You should never assume anything.

Uh? What you talking about?

Sorry, that was my mistake. I thought it was 25p, not 20.
Shows how long I haven't been over there ;)

Nah, they'd have a transitional period as they changed stuff over and then probably just round all the prices up, so we'll be paying 3.50 Euros a pint instead. It's how it worked in every other country

...

No, they don't also round your wages up, don't be silly now :p

Just as a curiosity what would be the cost of all shop owners having reprice everything in there stores? Add to that buying and ordering stuff has now changed to the new system. Do cash registers automatically convert to Euro / £ depending on which the person had? You may also need different drawers with different sets of money.

Sorry, that was my mistake. I thought it was 25p, not 20.
Shows how long I haven't been over there ;)

Ahhh gotcha!:D

Nah, they'd have a transitional period as they changed stuff over and then probably just round all the prices up, so we'll be paying 3.50 Euros a pint instead. It's how it worked in every other country

...

No, they don't also round your wages up, don't be silly now :p

But the important thing is: would the standard beverage volume also change with a change in currency?

But the important thing is: would the standard beverage volume also change with a change in currency?

We use pints in Ireland for alcohol.

But the important thing is: would the standard beverage volume also change with a change in currency?

I don't see why it would?

But the important thing is: would the standard beverage volume also change with a change in currency?

Unlikely, you'd have rioting if you tried to touch our pints :p

Anyway, pints are defined metrically nowadays - but we still call them pints because 568.26ml just doesn't sound right does it.

Just as a curiosity what would be the cost of all shop owners having reprice everything in there stores? Add to that buying and ordering stuff has now changed to the new system. Do cash registers automatically convert to Euro / £ depending on which the person had? You may also need different drawers with different sets of money.

Most big chains have both £ and Euros on their price tags anyway.
Which sort of bit them in the bum when the pound dropped so much, and customers in Ireland kicked up a fuss about the Euro prices not being lowered accordingly... ;)

Cash registers only need a very small adjustment, most of them come programmed for a number of currencies anyway.

And when the Euro was introduced around here, shops took the old currency as payment for some 3 or 4 months afterwards, but your change would be in Euros.
That was the easiest way to withdraw the old money from circulation.
I don't know how much it cost each shop, though....

I don't see why it would?

I suppose you could bring it in in stages. The euro I mean. That would give people time to adjust everything.

However I do think some of your National Identity does come from your money. It make you unique. The Euro would be great for international trade possibly as you would be able to change your money over only once and then back again.

However I do think some of your National Identity does come from your money. It make you unique.

Naaa I don't agree with this on both counts.

If we don't have the Queen's head on our money, what's to protect us from going all foreign??!! Next thing you know we'll have labour laws that stop us working 80 hour weeks!

tsk tsk.

You might just have had a point there, but you happen to be firmly mistaken. If the United Kingdom would actually change from pounds to euros, the British mint would be free to put the Queen's noble head on all the coins they make. Euro-coins are only uniform on one side, the other side can be decorated with whatever a nation's mint considers to be appropriate.

You might just have had a point there, but you happen to be firmly mistaken. If the United Kingdom would actually change from pounds to euros, the British mint would be free to put the Queen's noble head on all the coins they make. Euro-coins are only uniform on one side, the other side can be decorated with whatever a nation's mint considers to be appropriate.

You may want to get your sarcasm-meter fixed.

Pfft. There's no need for a common currency. It just means more control for the central banks.

We use pints in Ireland for alcohol.

I thought the Irish drank in 1 litre multiples? :p

I thought the Irish drank in 1 litre multiples? :p

The correct measurement would be a "small child of beer" (http://comedians.comedycentral.com/tommy-tiernan/videos/tommy-tiernan---alcohol).:p

Btw, I believe the word is "candour".

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/candor

Words change across the Pond.

You miss out the u's. VVhy!?

Here's an idea - before we get a common currency, how about a COMMON PLUG SHAPE?

I mean, seriously, does every country have to have a different plug shape?

Here's an idea - before we get a common currency, how about a COMMON PLUG SHAPE?

I mean, seriously, does every country have to have a different plug shape?

I really approve of this. Very logical.

Most big chains have both £ and Euros on their price tags anyway.
Which sort of bit them in the bum when the pound dropped so much, and customers in Ireland kicked up a fuss about the Euro prices not being lowered accordingly... ;)

But... wouldn't they be increased, rather than being loweredif the pound dropped?

Here's an idea - before we get a common currency, how about a COMMON PLUG SHAPE?

I mean, seriously, does every country have to have a different plug shape?

Did anybody else think of ... not electricity?

More on topic, I'd rather be concerned about censhorship than about bandwidth. German politicians do like their censhorship. (According to one Bavarian lunatic, players of "killergames" are on one level with junkies and pedophiles).

Here's an idea - before we get a common currency, how about a COMMON PLUG SHAPE?

I mean, seriously, does every country have to have a different plug shape?

And on top of that we can add common voltage, common frequency, common telecommunications standards and how about we get the US finally signed up on metric while we're at it.

Pfft. There's no need for a common currency. It just means more control for the central banks.

So? There's no power without control. A strong economy driven by a common currency adds to that power. It all adds up. In the end, it's all about the power and possibly even the glory. And trust me, power is a wanted commodity.

Ahhhh , and that means....?

That does nowt to explain why having the Euro is a bad thing? How far back in our history would you like to go to conserve our heritage? I mean by that logic shouldn't we all be pissed tha we are no longer part of the Roman Empire?

I can't speak Latin, nor moderen Italian, should I be pissed about my missing out on this part of my cultural hereitage?

Nah, I'm with the pound-lover on this one - Being Canadian I was fucking pissed when I heard we might loose the dollar to something called an Amero. Currency is a part of a culture, I can understand not wanting to lose the pound. Also Amero just sounds bloody stupid to me, considering 2/3 of the potential NAU would use dollars already!?

need more sources for this thing, though it sounds like an extension of the 'Net Neutrality thing that's been raging in the US for some years. once the BBC reports on this, i'll believe it :P

I live there too. But at least we still don't have the Euro.
a shame. one day we will
I love the EU. I live there, and it's great.

me too, and it is :)

Here's an idea - before we get a common currency, how about a COMMON PLUG SHAPE?

I mean, seriously, does every country have to have a different plug shape?

you need a common currency first to work out what a common plug would cost ;)

Here's an idea - before we get a common currency, how about a COMMON PLUG SHAPE?

I mean, seriously, does every country have to have a different plug shape?

Thing is, that would involve the British changing to be in-line with everyone else, and you know what stubborn bastards we are. Those plugs are part of our cultural heritage....

Though seriously, it would involve a lot of reorganisation, but would be very useful.

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Must have started with that website!

Nah, I'm with the pound-lover on this one - Being Canadian I was fucking pissed when I heard we might loose the dollar to something called an Amero. Currency is a part of a culture, I can understand not wanting to lose the pound. Also Amero just sounds bloody stupid to me, considering 2/3 of the potential NAU would use dollars already!?

Yeah I can see that you don't get it either. Apart form it's part of the culture, which BWT so is female genital mutilation in some cultures. Why is it so important to keep ahold of our native currency, what gains do you have?

Thing is, that would involve the British changing to be in-line with everyone else, and you know what stubborn bastards we are. Those plugs are part of our cultural heritage....

Though seriously, it would involve a lot of reorganisation, but would be very useful.

I disagree, I find that the opposite is true. We embrace change more readily than some.

ah...the first steps towards a totalitarian world and the NWO...:hail::mad:

ah...the first steps towards a totalitarian world and the NWO...:hail::mad:

I think you may be right, but I also think that it may be unaviodible.

Yeah I can see that you don't get it either. Apart form it's part of the culture, which BWT so is female genital mutilation in some cultures.
Yeah, it's not like male genitals are cut for religious/cultural reasons...

Oh wait.... :tongue:

Did anybody else think of ... not electricity?

...Yep - 'What? But they're all round!?' I thought to myself.
:p

Ah well, it's a slow morning!

Yeah, it's not like male genitals are cut for religious/cultural reasons...

Oh wait.... :tongue:

Female circumcision is a completely different ballpark to male circumcision - resulting in significant medical consequences and reduced sexual pleasure. I don't think either are right but comparing the two are a bit of a fallacy.

Female circumcision is a completely different ballpark to male circumcision - resulting in significant medical consequences and reduced sexual pleasure. I don't think either are right but comparing the two are a bit of a fallacy.

Umm or maybe a bit of a phallacy?:D

ah...the first steps towards a totalitarian world and the NWO...:hail::mad:

The world Shadow Government notes your sarcasm with disappointment. You would be wise not to make similar statements in the future.

Umm or maybe a bit of a phallacy?:D

*rimshot*

I disagree, I find that the opposite is true. We embrace change more readily than some.

I was mostly joking, but....think about the plugs, man! The plugs, they can't take those away from us.

I was mostly joking, but....think about the plugs, man! The plugs, they can't take those away from us.

Meh! I really don't care.:D

The world Shadow Government notes your sarcasm with disappointment. You would be wise not to make similar statements in the future.

Exactly. Unexpected yet fatal accidents have happened before. One has to wonder why those deaths are always so... humiliating.

So? There's no power without control. A strong economy driven by a common currency adds to that power. It all adds up. In the end, it's all about the power and possibly even the glory. And trust me, power is a wanted commodity.

Well, I mean, if you want your money supply - and thus basically your entire economy - controlled by a single entity, I suppose that's fine...

I, though, knowing that centrally planned economies are fail, don't.

That's not how things work over here in Europe, but I shouldn't have to tell you that. You know that already. I also see that my merry sarcasm is sorely misunderstood. How quaint!

*shrugs*

It's just a piece of metal that's exchanged for goods and services, not a boogey man.

Yeah, this is the Bogey Man...

http://lifeoverdeath.org/r_eagle_lib_20amero_pl.jpg

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