NationStates Jolt Archive

So, what are some of the things that you enjoy, but other may find boring?

For me, it'd have to be playing Kuju Rail Simulator (http://www.railsimulator.com/), the North America version. I dunno, my mind is always wired and always running, sometimes it's nice to play something that has a slower pace and can allow me to relax some. I like to work in the train yards, setting up trains for departure, or breaking down trains that has come into the yard, and I like to pull local freights.

Not much into passenger runs because if you make the ride the least bit uncomfortable, the passenger will let you know about it.

Living in Everett, WA. Anybody from washington hates it. It's a nice place to live if you grew up there....

General Equilibrium Theory, for example.

Politics. Most people hate it.

Politics. Most people hate it.

Turn the political process into a contest like American Idol and then people will be interested.

*hides*

Talking about baseball/hockey games/teams from several years ago in minute detail.

(Just watched a rebroadcast baseball game from 5 years ago on TV. Good times.)

Etymology. Especially Greek and Latin word roots.

Etymology. Especially Greek and Latin word roots.

Similarly, the root of idioms, metaphors and common phrases.

As well as etymology.

Turn the political process into a contest like American Idol and then people will be interested.

*hides*

... I can actually see that happening.


What I find interesting that others find boring? crayfish.

Turn the political process into a contest like American Idol and then people will be interested.


I'd thought we'd already done that. The first part anyways, people still seem to prefer American Idol.

Things I like to do, that other people find boring:

Washing dishes is an overlooked simple pleasure. It’s an immediate physical task that occupies your hands and frees up your mind to wander. Once you’re done, there is a bit of job satisfaction in the completion of the task as well. Plus, in my experience, girlfriends are more likely to cook for you, if they know you’ll do the clean up.

Some people I know find hunting boring. Of course, they also find it barbaric, which just goes to show that these people are loons and their opinions can be safely disregarded.

My girl finds watching wrestling to be boring, despite my attempts to convey the exact opposite. I had to trade her my attendance at an open-mic poetry night she had going to get her to watch Wrestlemania XXV with me.

Living in Everett, WA. Anybody from washington hates it. It's a nice place to live if you grew up there....

I lived there from 1991 to 2005, and Lake Stevens (which meant coming to Everett for damn near anything) from 1979 to then. I like Everett a lot, myself. The city, mostly, the location. The people can be...trying.

I'd thought we'd already done that. The first part anyways, people still seem to prefer American Idol.

Things I like to do, that other people find boring:

Washing dishes is an overlooked simple pleasure. It’s an immediate physical task that occupies your hands and frees up your mind to wander. Once you’re done, there is a bit of job satisfaction in the completion of the task as well. Plus, in my experience, girlfriends are more likely to cook for you, if they know you’ll do the clean up.

Some people I know find hunting boring. Of course, they also find it barbaric, which just goes to show that these people are loons and their opinions can be safely disregarded.

My girl finds watching wrestling to be boring, despite my attempts to convey the exact opposite. I had to trade her my attendance at an open-mic poetry night she had going to get her to watch Wrestlemania XXV with me.

I prefer to cook than clean up. For some reason I find cooking easier.

As for wrestling, well I think I've made my opinion on that known, no need to repeat it.

I am on pain killers right now, so that's why I'm not my usual ass self.

I have back problems....

Play and talk about cricket.

I lived there from 1991 to 2005, and Lake Stevens (which meant coming to Everett for damn near anything) from 1979 to then. I like Everett a lot, myself. The city, mostly, the location. The people can be...trying.

Yeah it has pretty F*cked up people. My girlfriend was raped when she went to Mariner HS. Otherwise area is pretty nice. I kinda like Mukilteo more though, but I guess that having friends there is enough to make me want to move back.

I'm a librarian and I like watching Formula 1

I'd thought we'd already done that. The first part anyways, people still seem to prefer American Idol.

Things I like to do, that other people find boring:

Washing dishes is an overlooked simple pleasure. It’s an immediate physical task that occupies your hands and frees up your mind to wander. Once you’re done, there is a bit of job satisfaction in the completion of the task as well. Plus, in my experience, girlfriends are more likely to cook for you, if they know you’ll do the clean up.

Some people I know find hunting boring. Of course, they also find it barbaric, which just goes to show that these people are loons and their opinions can be safely disregarded.

My girl finds watching wrestling to be boring, despite my attempts to convey the exact opposite. I had to trade her my attendance at an open-mic poetry night she had going to get her to watch Wrestlemania XXV with me.

Since I stopped using the dishwasher (except when I have guests) I've found that to be true. I used to hate it when I was a kid and would do anything to get out of it, but now, it's sort of relaxing.

I like knitting, crocheting, and counted cross-stitch, which bore most people. I also like finding out minute details about things and talking about them (for instance, did you know that the first smoke jumpers in the US were African-American?).

Progressive Rock.

Sigh.... No-one understands or appreciates it.

Reading and posting on NSG.

Chess I suppose. Not that I'm much good at it (stuck at 1400-1500 rating)

I like sleeping. Unless I have dreams of boredom.

Dreams of boredom are worse than actual boredom, because you don't have the option of washing dishes instead (which is boring, but to some purpose.)

Chess I suppose. Not that I'm much good at it (stuck at 1400-1500 rating)

That's actually not bad. If it's a club rating (eg FIDE) it is quite impressive.

The important thing to remember about ratings is that they are relative to other people who actually play chess. If you pick a person off the street, you could almost certainly whip their sorry ass.

Turn the political process into a contest like American Idol and then people will be interested.

*hides*

You mean like voting on who will be the next president, or judging by a singing contest?

For me its shining shoes... oh and Im a PC

That's actually not bad. If it's a club rating (eg FIDE) it is quite impressive.

The important thing to remember about ratings is that they are relative to other people who actually play chess. If you pick a person off the street, you could almost certainly whip their sorry ass.

Well...I don't know about real life ratings, as I haven't been to a chess club for years. I did when I was like 16 or 17 and beat people rated about 1200 in an informal setting. More recently, Internet chess ratings have suggested somewhere between 1600-1800. But we all know that they are more than slightly inflated. I have beaten the captain of the university chess team several times though, so I must at least be competent.

Well...I don't know about real life ratings, as I haven't been to a chess club for years. I did when I was like 16 or 17 and beat people rated about 1200 in an informal setting. More recently, Internet chess ratings have suggested somewhere between 1600-1800. But we all know that they are more than slightly inflated.

I can't work out why that is. The sites could easily calibrate their rating system by having a "basket" of FIDE rated players, and adjusting the system to make those players' online ratings match their over-the-board ratings. Other players' ratings would go up or down regardless of their win/loss, and that would piss off un"basket"ed players, but it would be worth it to have the reality check.

Perhaps some site does that. I haven't checked.

TG me if you're interested in a game at some site of your choice. My peak internet rating was 18** on FICS, so we might be evenly matched. I like standard, or the longest extreme of blitz. I suck at lightning.

I have beaten the captain of the university chess team several times though, so I must at least be competent.

Or psychotic. (Beating up some nerd with your baseball bat.)

TG me if you're interested in a game at some site of your choice. My peak internet rating was 18** on FICS, so we might be evenly matched. I like standard, or the longest extreme of blitz. I suck at lightning.

Me too. I think my rating at lightning is under a thousand even on the internet. I will take you up on this offer, though not quite yet, since I played yesterday after a short break from playing over the easter holidays and lost to a player rated around 1300 after a series of stupid blunders, sending my rating for 10 minutes games tumbling from 1650 to a near all time low of 1497. I need to go back through my chess books and refresh my memory a bit, then play a few less decent people before I dare challenge someone whose rated towards where I was rated a few months back. Its strange, when I get on a bad run I just keep making VERY stupid mistakes. Also, playing at 3AM like I've been doing recently doesn't help the concentration.

I have alternating cycles of interest in constructed languages and linguistics.

Chess I suppose. Not that I'm much good at it (stuck at 1400-1500 rating)
That's reasonable. I'm only slightly higher, usually around 1500-1600 (highest I've ever hit on the site I play on is nearly 1650).

The problem with ratings on chess sites is that they're closed systems, where rating points can only be added to the system (by new users joining) but never taken out (the site I play on doesn't delete users for inactivity), so inevitably inflation will occur. That said, at the higher end they're usually about accurate.

If you (DI or BSB) ever fancy a game, I play on redhotpawn.com, username 'untergang'.

Other things I enjoy - sport: I can literally watch any sport live or on tv and have some level of interest in it. I'm told that I have an "unhealthily good" ability to recollect minor stats relating to lower-division English football as well.

And making mix-CDs. Love it. I've spent most of this weekend so far making several for a road-trip this week. I always find an album I've not listened to in months (or in some cases, years) and think "why have I not been listening to this?!"

Medieval music.

Medieval music.

Me too.

Most people think I'm pretty nuts for spending hours playing with spreadsheets to pick a fantasy football team or choose Warcraft gear.

Especially as it never seems to make me any better.

You mean like voting on who will be the next president, or judging by a singing contest?

For me its shining shoes... oh and Im a PC

Polish Cowboy ?

Most people think I'm pretty nuts for spending hours playing with spreadsheets to pick a fantasy football team or choose Warcraft gear.

Especially as it never seems to make me any better.

lol, I love making spreadsheets... I created a spreadsheet that could calculate the price of vehicles in the battletech game, all you did was enter the tonnage of the mech, the tonnage of the armor, the armor type, and the price of the weapons and ammo...

I have alternating cycles of interest in constructed languages and linguistics.

Me too!

Birding. I also listen to a lot of music and watch many films that most of those I know find boring.

Progressive Rock.

Sigh.... No-one understands or appreciates it.

My fencing coach loves it.

Endurance sports car racing. Not only is it racing ("OMG they're just driving!!!" as if football is just playing catch or baseball is just seeing if a guy can hit a ball with a stick...), but it goes on for anywhere between ten and twenty four hours. To add confusion, there's usually more than one class of car on the field, so there's up to four races happening at once.

I love it and can't get enough. But even among other racing fans I can't find that many people that like it. There's enough for it to continue, just none live near me or post all that often here. If I had a short attention span and thought ten seconds in a straight line constituted a race I'd have plenty of people to talk to...

Walking, just walking, for hours on end. Not trying to get anywhere (though moving in a roughly straight line is preferable to looping back repeatedly).
Progressive Rock.

Sigh.... No-one understands or appreciates it.
Psh, try liking Post Rock. It is impossible to get the average person to sit still through the whole of "Mogwai Fear Satan." They just won't do it; they refuse.
Arab Strap (the band, not the sexual thing), too. No one seems understand the majesty and wonder of some lonely, depressed Scottish guy muttering drunkenly over a drum machine and looped guitar.

Psh, try liking Post Rock. It is impossible to get the average person to sit still through the whole of "Mogwai Fear Satan." They just won't do it; they refuse.
To be honest, speaking as a post rock fan myself, Mogwai can be quite boring. Still better than a lot of crap that's sprung up recently, but still. Boring.

Me too.

Thing is, many people don't understand anything about early music. There seems to be an assumption that it's boring without ever having heard it. Or that, it being so long ago, it has nothing to offer us now.

Thing is, many people don't understand anything about early music. There seems to be an assumption that it's boring without ever having heard it.

Have you got any decent stuff you can recommend? I've only ever heard Greensleeves, and even that's not exactly Medieval.

Me too. I think my rating at lightning is under a thousand even on the internet. I will take you up on this offer, though not quite yet, since I played yesterday after a short break from playing over the easter holidays and lost to a player rated around 1300 after a series of stupid blunders, sending my rating for 10 minutes games tumbling from 1650 to a near all time low of 1497.

I'll admit that I'm leary of playing anyone over 2000, but the best way to improve your rating (and your game) is to play higher-rated players.

Your rating was stale. It moves up or down more after a break.

I need to go back through my chess books and refresh my memory a bit, then play a few less decent people before I dare challenge someone whose rated towards where I was rated a few months back. Its strange, when I get on a bad run I just keep making VERY stupid mistakes. Also, playing at 3AM like I've been doing recently doesn't help the concentration.

To the bolded: read it again. I said that was my peak rating. It wouldn't be anywhere near that now.

I now have an account on redhotpawn.com
Sending my username by NS telegram to you and to I V Stalin

Win lose or draw, you are still an NSGer to me! :fluffle:

To be honest, speaking as a post rock fan myself, Mogwai can be quite boring. Still better than a lot of crap that's sprung up recently, but still. Boring.
It is good walking music. Time just sort of stops happening, and the next thing you know you've gone from the Bronx to the East Village.

Have you got any decent stuff you can recommend? I've only ever heard Greensleeves, and even that's not exactly Medieval.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yXJ0MDTI4Q

Psh, try liking Post Rock. It is impossible to get the average person to sit still through the whole of "Mogwai Fear Satan." They just won't do it; they refuse.
Arab Strap (the band, not the sexual thing), too. No one seems understand the majesty and wonder of some lonely, depressed Scottish guy muttering drunkenly over a drum machine and looped guitar.
I'll see that and raise you contemporary composition, for instance the recordings of a drunk man singing a hymn he can't remember the words to looped over minimalist orchestration for twenty minutes. Or the transcription of hobo markings spoken and then sung over instruments made out of found objects.

Or free jazz, like two separate quartets each with all four members soloing at the same time playing together for forty-five minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yXJ0MDTI4Q

Spaciba.

Spaciba.

Not a problem. She is probably the most famous composer of the Middle Ages, but there are certainly others.

Have you got any decent stuff you can recommend? I've only ever heard Greensleeves, and even that's not exactly Medieval.

Greensleeves is C15 I believe, so more early Renaissance.

Try Guillaume de Machaut (C14) and for courtly songs and an awesome mass.
For sacred music more generally, try Pérotin and Léonin (C12), or Dunstaple (early C15).

Thing is, many works exist but are anonymous (though you could try looking for troubadour or trouvère for secular songs). Composers known by name and even pieces by them are a rarity, even amongst the surviving pieces (of which might be less than 10% of the original amount).

Some people have already mentioned post-rock, which several of my favourites bands are (Sigur Ros, Mogwai, Explosions in the Sky). Whenever I play it for my best friend she just kind of sits there with a :/ expression, and after a while asks when something is going to happen.

Other things I like that my friends tend to find boring:
- Test cricket, not 20/20 cricket. I love watching an opener face an hour of testing off-stump deliveries, or a team battling to save a draw. Yet my friends tend to regard any over that contains less than four sixes and eight naked women as a waste of time.
- logic puzzles. I never really got into Sudoku, but I do enjoy things like Tsunami (or whatever they're called now, Hanjie) and the various spin-offs even though they're quite simple. Same goes for cryptic crosswords.
- economic history. No one under the age of 50 likes economic history: they all want to be social historians of postcolonial gender.
- NS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yXJ0MDTI4Q

Ah yes, I forgot Hildegard. Lovely.

Recordings by Anonymous 4 and Gothic Voices are best I've found. Gothic Voices for anything medieval in fact.

Here is something secular, from a couple of centuries later: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bf1bFOf4Gg

Ah yes, I forgot Hildegard. Lovely.

Recordings by Anonymous 4 and Gothic Voices are best I've found. Gothic Voices for anything medieval in fact.

I will have to try some of their albums.

...Test cricket, not 20/20 cricket. I love watching an opener face an hour of testing off-stump deliveries, or a team battling to save a draw. Yet my friends tend to regard any over that contains less than four sixes and eight naked women as a waste of time...

Agree entirely. In Australia, test matches are played from November to early January. After that it's one day cricket and 20/20 until March. I stop following it after the test matches end.

One day cricket may be more exciting (well, the last ten overs or so) but test cricket is much more interesting.

Here is something secular, from a couple of centuries later: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bf1bFOf4Gg

Mmmm, I love harp stuff.

Some people have already mentioned post-rock, which several of my favourites bands are (Sigur Ros, Mogwai, Explosions in the Sky). Whenever I play it for my best friend she just kind of sits there with a :/ expression, and after a while asks when something is going to happen.
Tell her that it's already happened and if she missed it it means she has no soul. Or something. Depends on what your friendship could take, I guess. :p

Some people have already mentioned post-rock, which several of my favourites bands are (Sigur Ros, Mogwai, Explosions in the Sky). Whenever I play it for my best friend she just kind of sits there with a :/ expression, and after a while asks when something is going to happen.

Other things I like that my friends tend to find boring:
- Test cricket, not 20/20 cricket. I love watching an opener face an hour of testing off-stump deliveries, or a team battling to save a draw. Yet my friends tend to regard any over that contains less than four sixes and eight naked women as a waste of time.
- logic puzzles. I never really got into Sudoku, but I do enjoy things like Tsunami (or whatever they're called now, Hanjie) and the various spin-offs even though they're quite simple. Same goes for cryptic crosswords.
- economic history. No one under the age of 50 likes economic history: they all want to be social historians of postcolonial gender.
- NS.

You like NationStates ?

That's sick, sad and sorry.

I can't believe just waht losers people are when internet anonymity lets their true loserdom flourish in all its loserdom!!



Test cricket is good tho. I think I could probably go a whole day at the cricket with you, without teasing you more than five or six times about the liking NationStates thing.

Tell her that it's already happened and if she missed it it means she has no soul. Or something. Depends on what your friendship could take, I guess. :p
She's said worse to me (including "ugh, there's something wrong with you" and "don't worry, I'm sure we'll always stay in touch, even though I do want to kill you sometimes") so I think I have the right to mete some out.

By the way, what sort of post-rock do you listen to? I've just got into it recently and don't know many bands.

She's said worse to me (including "ugh, there's something wrong with you" and "don't worry, I'm sure we'll always stay in touch, even though I do want to kill you sometimes") so I think I have the right to mete some out.

By the way, what sort of post-rock do you listen to? I've just got into it recently and don't know many bands.
Well, you already know the main ones, EITS, Mogwai and Sigur Ros. Check out M83, Caspian, Her Name is Calla, Mono and Do Make Say Think. Oceansize aren't exactly post rock but I've not met a Mogwai fan who didn't like them. From Monument to Masses are sort of post rock - they're a bit heavier than those three and a lot heavier than EITS and Sigur Ros, which personally I prefer. Heavier still (moving into 'post metal') try Pelican, Isis, The Other Side of the Sky and Maybeshewill.

Talking about baseball/hockey games/teams from several years ago in minute detail.

(Just watched a rebroadcast baseball game from 5 years ago on TV. Good times.)

I do that too. I've sat down to watch games that were played long before I was even born, and had lengthy analysis sessions with a friend of mine (hockey only...I can't take baseball)

Well, you already know the main ones, EITS, Mogwai and Sigur Ros. Check out M83, Caspian, Her Name is Calla, Mono and Do Make Say Think. Oceansize aren't exactly post rock but I've not met a Mogwai fan who didn't like them. From Monument to Masses are sort of post rock - they're a bit heavier than those three and a lot heavier than EITS and Sigur Ros, which personally I prefer. Heavier still (moving into 'post metal') try Pelican, Isis, The Other Side of the Sky and Maybeshewill.
Cool, thanks. I love M83 and both Pelican and Isis, but I hadn't heard of the others, except for DMST who I've vaguely heard mentioned before. I'll give some of the others a scout.

I will have to try some of their albums.

What other artists have got you into this era of music? I'd love to find some others to widen my collection.

What other artists have got you into this era of music? I'd love to find some others to widen my collection.

I don't know how strict your criteria are, but Corvus Corax might be worth looking into.

Hillwalking. Basically, you kill yourself walking up to a summit of about 4000 feet, spend ten minutes watching the view, then kill you self again walking down again. It's incredibly addictive.

Flying long distance routes in real time on microsoft flight simulator 2004. (e.g. L.A., CA to Melbourne, Australia.)

I don't know how strict your criteria are, but Corvus Corax might be worth looking into.

That's really ... odd. Not to my tastes particularly. I admire what they're trying to do in terms of authenticity, but the result mixed with metal is not so good, the ones with just period instruments are better but I don't rate their singing (perhaps that's authentic though ;)).

That's really ... odd. Not to my tastes particularly. I admire what they're trying to do in terms of authenticity, but the result mixed with metal is not so good, the ones with just period instruments are better but I don't rate their singing (perhaps that's authentic though ;)).
If you think their normal stuff is odd you clearly have never heard anything from Tanzwut. That shit is really...well I can't really describe it so heres some linkage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKr-V-atRZ0

Flying long distance routes in real time on microsoft flight simulator 2004. (e.g. L.A., CA to Melbourne, Australia.)

I used to love doing that. For a period I even considered becoming a commercial pilot.

Long-distance running. You start off feeling great, but that soon disintegrates into exhaustion and then despair. It's not the feeling of actually running that makes it so enjoyable, it's the way you feel afterwards. The more you run, the easier it gets. The easier it gets, the longer you run...

Me too!

Thirded

I may or may not play the Discworld MUD..

Long-distance running. You start off feeling great, but that soon disintegrates into exhaustion and then despair. It's not the feeling of actually running that makes it so enjoyable, it's the way you feel afterwards. The more you run, the easier it gets. The easier it gets, the longer you run...

Bingo! Cross-country running just plains rocks. Its so relaxing when your done trying to glup all of the atmosphere oxgyen into your lungs. :)

If you think their normal stuff is odd you clearly have never heard anything from Tanzwut. That shit is really...well I can't really describe it so heres some linkage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKr-V-atRZ0

I find the video more disturbing than the music. Reminds me of Leeroy from Prodigy in the 90s.

I work on engineering projects and write papers. No kidding.

What other artists have got you into this era of music? I'd love to find some others to widen my collection.



Composers: Léonin, Guillaume de Machaut, and Pérotin.

The Hilliard Ensemble are the only Medieval artists that I really enjoyed.

....NationStates?

* Doing math for fun
* Doing ridiculous challenges in video games (such as beating Dragon Warior without ever getting any equipment)
* Watching games play against themselves for a looong time. Usually it's either a Three Kingdoms game or Chessmaster 8000.
* Documenting far too much video game data

Some people I know find hunting boring. Of course, they also find it barbaric, which just goes to show that these people are loons and their opinions can be safely disregarded.

Yeah, only a crazy person would have a problem with killing a living thing just for fun. Thats something that sane people enjoy:rolleyes:

My girl finds watching wrestling to be boring, despite my attempts to convey the exact opposite. I had to trade her my attendance at an open-mic poetry night she had going to get her to watch Wrestlemania XXV with me.

You must really love her. :p

Yeah, only a crazy person would have a problem with killing a living thing just for fun. Thats something that sane people enjoy:rolleyes:

Animals are frequently killed for meat, and since humans could easily get their protein from other sources, I would say meat is generally eaten because it tastes good. So, a living thing is effectively being killed for fun.

Compiling statistics and crunching numbers, usually with excel.

I like knitting, crocheting, and counted cross-stitch, which bore most people. I also like finding out minute details about things and talking about them (for instance, did you know that the first smoke jumpers in the US were African-American?).

Ironic, since an old racial epithet for black people was 'smoke.'

Yeah, only a crazy person would have a problem with killing a living thing just for fun. Thats something that sane people enjoy:rolleyes:

Yeah, that was a joke. I have to say, you do continue to excel at finding ways to get your panties in a bunch over nothing.

You must really love her. :p

She's generally worth it, plus she was a good sport about the wrestling.

Yeah, that was a joke. I have to say, you do continue to excel at finding ways to get your panties in a bunch over nothing.


To be fair...this is true. I need to remeber that your only serious 50% of the time.


For what its worth, when I realize youre joking, I lol.

I don't know if this would be considered "boring" so much as "bizarre," but I like to write (hypothetical) constitutions for (fictitious) countries. Strange, I know.

MOST thing i find interesting others seem to find boring, and vici very much versi.

which i find somewhat baffling and for which i lay the blame entirely on vested brainwashing.

Composers: Léonin, Guillaume de Machaut, and Pérotin.

The Hilliard Ensemble are the only Medieval artists that I really enjoyed.

Yes, yes, Hilliard Ensemble are very good. Their one of Pérotin is the best I've found. I love Viderunt omnes. :)

Gothic Voices have done a lot more of unknown or lesser-known composers, plus many anonymous works, though this doesn't show in the quality of it. One of the CDs I have, 'Music for the Lion-hearted King', has 16 tracks, only 4 of which have an identified composer, but the whole disk is great.

...Caspian...
And following on from this, THANK YOU for the recommendation. Four Trees is amazing.

which i find somewhat baffling and for which i lay the blame entirely on vested brainwashing.
We have to wear vests when we brainwash people now?

Maths

Disc Golf....I love it. Admittedly, most people who find it boring haven't actually played through a course, but I'm sure proper golf suffers a similar dilemma.

Hardcore record keeping and statistics for fictitous teams (mainly teams from Newmanistan), and individual player statistics as well. Tracking results of every game, etc.

This goes beyond NS too and into sports simulation games. I just find this real interesting. My girlfriend, accepts it, but has threatened a few times to erase my files. :) (though I have backups)

World of Warcraft.

World of Warcraft.Uh, what server?

Uh, what server?
Kul Tiras.

Kul Tiras.Hmm . . . I'm a bit of an altaholic, but have no toons there (I'm also out-of-game, currently. Being unemployed does that). What side? When I'm back, I may come say "Hi!"

Hmm . . . I'm a bit of an altaholic, but have no toons there (I'm also out-of-game, currently. Being unemployed does that). What side? When I'm back, I may come say "Hi!"
Horde. Somewhere around here there is a thread that was made by the Generalites who play WoW. If you search for "Warcraft" in thread titles you could probably find it.

Horde. Somewhere around here there is a thread that was made by the Generalites who play WoW. If you search for "Warcraft" in thread titles you could probably find it.
Ah, the Horde! I so enjoy rolling a hunter, then, at 10, going to Teldrassil and getting myself an owl :tongue: I'll remember to look for the WoW-thread once I'm in game again! TY!

And following on from this, THANK YOU for the recommendation. Four Trees is amazing.
Aww, you're embarassing me! :$ :p

New album out in September, in case you've not found that out yet, and hopefully some UK dates.

Engine management systems for cars. I think it's a lack of knowledge that leads people to find it boring. That and patience.