NationStates Jolt Archive


Monday, I bite my thumb at thee!

Call to power
15-04-2009, 23:36
Currently the workers of the world suffer under the cruel oppression of a (usually) two day weekend with 5 whole days spent working, this is completely unacceptable! I say:


I've got shit to do and if you think its gonna take me 3 days to put up a shed then you are correct
Sunday nights are the best nights to go out
Manic Monday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2BMV-KtgAI) wouldn't be as overplayed
the tourism industry along the nations coast would boom
I'd have more time to do this list
extra pay if your working on the weekend
weekend warriors such as the glorious reservist forces would have a day more to be cold and miserable
people usually get too ill to go to work on Monday mornings so naturally this day should be for rest
what is this the 19 century? I want Monday off


I wanna shoo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oot the whole day down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GirAGIql7z0)
Kryozerkia
15-04-2009, 23:40
I have Mondays off, and I will have Monday off next semester as well, so I don't see why you're bitching about Mondays. Mondays are great! :)
Saige Dragon
15-04-2009, 23:43
Seeing as I am currently unemployed... '7 day weekend FTW!' was my choice.
Call to power
15-04-2009, 23:43
I have Mondays off, and I will have Monday off next semester as well, so I don't see why you're bitching about Mondays. Mondays are great! :)

:eek: get a job hippy!

come to think of it if we made a 3 day weekend students could all get part-time jobs and we could cut off EMA and stuff >_>

Seeing as I am currently unemployed... '7 day weekend FTW!' was my choice.

well just giving up and living off the dole not doing a thing for the rest of my life does sound tempting...
Iniika
15-04-2009, 23:46
:eek: get a job hippy!

come to think of it if we made a 3 day weekend students could all get part-time jobs and we could cut off EMA and stuff >_>

Read in the paper today about a study that said the more hours a week students are at a part time job, the more likely they are to drop out. So no jobs for you! Debt galore!
Dumb Ideologies
15-04-2009, 23:49
100 day week of days lasting 100 minutes, with 30 days off per week, days 30-40, 65-75 and 90-100. Thats what we need. Much simpler.
Lunatic Goofballs
15-04-2009, 23:54
I tend to work more on the weekends than on weekdays. Mondays are probably my slowest day.
Saige Dragon
16-04-2009, 00:05
well just giving up and living off the dole not doing a thing for the rest of my life does sound tempting...

I'll have you know I do actually do things. Like today, I got out of bed at like noon and had a coffee. By the time 2:30 rolled around I had my shit together and by 3:30 I was down at the H&R Block having my taxes done for me because bureaucracy is dumb.
I V Stalin
16-04-2009, 01:14
100 day week of days lasting 100 minutes, with 30 days off per week, days 30-40, 65-75 and 90-100. Thats what we need. Much simpler.
So wait...when do we sleep from days 1-30? Because we'd get up say, halfway through day 4, then go back to bed some time around day 13, getting up again for day 20.

And what were you planning on calling the other 93 days?

Personally I think we should have a 10-day week - work 3 days, one day off, work four days, 2 days off. Gives us 30% of our time off, rather than ~28.5%.
Blouman Empire
16-04-2009, 04:05
Meh,currently I have Monday's and Friday's off
Wilgrove
16-04-2009, 04:18
Oh bitch bitch bitch, I work six days a week, 10 hours a day. So take that! :p
Blouman Empire
16-04-2009, 05:05
Oh bitch bitch bitch, I work six days a week, 10 hours a day. So take that! :p

Slacker. :tongue:
Ring of Isengard
16-04-2009, 08:12
:eek: get a job hippy!

come to think of it if we made a 3 day weekend students could all get part-time jobs and we could cut off EMA and stuff >_>





That's if the students could get work.
Bokkiwokki
16-04-2009, 08:21
For the sake of The Holy Economy, we all need to go back to a seven day working week, 12 hours a day, and with whippings.
Anything less will fail to get us out of The Evil Crisis, and make us all dooooooomed!
That being said, I'm going on a holiday now. Bye!
BunnySaurus Bugsii
16-04-2009, 08:34
I used to think that a four day working week would eliminate unemployment. And that would be great, because more people would work, each for fewer hours. More fair.

Furthermore, an effective labour shortage (negative unemployment) would improve the wages of the lowest-paid.

However. Since then I have concluded that there exists in the workforce at least 10% who are essentially unemployable. If forced to work, their labour has some value, but that value is so low that the most efficient solution is just to pay them to sit on a couch somewhere.

During the boom which recently ended (with unemployment down around 5%), there were quite a few of these people in work. Spraypainting roofs, building houses, serving in shops, working as security guards ... the bottom end of the market. Essentially, they work backwards, fuck up all the time, and make more work fixing up their mistakes than they achieve themselves working.

So I propose that my socialist government which seems so bent on "stimulating consumption" create a new government benefit, un-euphemistically called the "Useless Bludger Allowance." No work test, no medical requirements. No requirements other than that they sign a piece of paper saying "I am useless and I want to bludge. Give me the money."

100% of the money would go right back into the retail economy. Hell, give them a double payment first up so they can buy a big-ass television.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
16-04-2009, 08:50
So wait...when do we sleep from days 1-30? Because we'd get up say, halfway through day 4, then go back to bed some time around day 13, getting up again for day 20.

And what were you planning on calling the other 93 days?

What are we, Roman emperors? The Catholic fucking church? That must be decided by a great Convention drawn from all the teachers, academics, marketers and pop musicians of the world, then put to a Referendum under the auspices of the United Nations.

It's going to be a bit awkward how some of them are spelled in Hindi. Perhaps we could also have a convenient symbol for the days. Whatcha call it? A pictograph, yeah.

But for now, let me suggest "Sexday" and "Nowayday."

"I demand time off to have sex" would be a legal reason not to work on Sexday, and no-body would have to do anything they didn't want to on Nowayday.
Bokkiwokki
16-04-2009, 09:08
But for now, let me suggest "Sexday" and "Nowayday."

These are generally considered to be the same day:

"I wanna have sex with you today!"
"No way, and good day!"
:D
Gelgisith
16-04-2009, 09:19
Why Monday? I think Wednesday is a much more logical choice, because that breaks your week into two two-day work periods, seperated by one or two days off, essentially creating the ultimate goal of Communism: the two day work week.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
16-04-2009, 09:41
These are generally considered to be the same day:

"I wanna have sex with you today!"
"No way, and good day!"
:D

"OK, baby, Good-Day! It's a date!"
The Archregimancy
16-04-2009, 09:56
So long as my students are behaving, Monday and Friday are the only days I have to go to the office.

I work at home Tuesdays through Thursdays.

It's goooooood to be an academic (always assuming you make it through the years of dissertation writing, the period of post-graduate poverty, and the struggle to find some sort of post after you complete your PhD).
Truly Blessed
16-04-2009, 14:21
Friday is already half-weekend already. Few things bring joy to your heart as Friday at close to 5:00PM when it is time to go home. Satisfied after a week of work. I would officially like to nominate Friday to become an exalted member of the Weekend.

Vote Friday!

TGIF
Truly Blessed
16-04-2009, 14:29
I used to think that a four day working week would eliminate unemployment. And that would be great, because more people would work, each for fewer hours. More fair.

Furthermore, an effective labour shortage (negative unemployment) would improve the wages of the lowest-paid.

However. Since then I have concluded that there exists in the workforce at least 10% who are essentially unemployable. If forced to work, their labour has some value, but that value is so low that the most efficient solution is just to pay them to sit on a couch somewhere.

During the boom which recently ended (with unemployment down around 5%), there were quite a few of these people in work. Spraypainting roofs, building houses, serving in shops, working as security guards ... the bottom end of the market. Essentially, they work backwards, fuck up all the time, and make more work fixing up their mistakes than they achieve themselves working.

So I propose that my socialist government which seems so bent on "stimulating consumption" create a new government benefit, un-euphemistically called the "Useless Bludger Allowance." No work test, no medical requirements. No requirements other than that they sign a piece of paper saying "I am useless and I want to bludge. Give me the money."

100% of the money would go right back into the retail economy. Hell, give them a double payment first up so they can buy a big-ass television.

What happens if everyone signs up for the Useless Bludger Allowance? You would have lines longer than the unemployment line which all of the above would have to stand in next.

This has to be one of the better sentences "I am useless and I want to bludge. Give me the money."


Bludge, Bludge, Bludge!
Call to power
16-04-2009, 18:25
"I am useless and I want to bludge. Give me the money."

isn't that the same piece of paper bankers sign :confused:

Why Monday? I think Wednesday is a much more logical choice, because that breaks your week into two two-day work periods, seperated by one or two days off, essentially creating the ultimate goal of Communism: the two day work week.

but then nobody would have anything to do I mean its the Mondays that are crappy whilst Wednesdays are like half way through the week and thus don't need fixing at all

maybe we should compromise and have not only Monday but also Wednesday off!

Vote Friday!

but nobody ever does any work on a Friday so why bother making it a day off?
Mobius III
16-04-2009, 19:03
I already live the dream that is a seven-day weekend, courtesy of our lovely friends in the failing global economy!
Andaluciae
16-04-2009, 19:03
I have Friday's off because I work 4-10's.



Although I use the word "work" loosely.
Call to power
16-04-2009, 19:56
I already live the dream that is a seven-day weekend, courtesy of our lovely friends in the failing global economy!

*is jealous*

why can't the nice bankers lay me off with a big fat cheque :(
Ladamesansmerci
16-04-2009, 22:13
I remember the good old days in Communist China, when I was merely a elementary schooler getting 1 day weekends.

Quit yer complainin' and gerroff yer lazy bums! :p
BunnySaurus Bugsii
17-04-2009, 02:58
What happens if everyone signs up for the Useless Bludger Allowance? You would have lines longer than the unemployment line which all of the above would have to stand in next.

Not everyone would. For one thing, I'd make the UBA list public, and I'm pretty sure that employers would not favour a prospective employee who had signed a sworn statement saying that they wanted to bludge.

Existing unemployment benefits vary from country to country, but they're always less than the average wage. So at the very least, we can assume that half the workforce would rather have more money. I was thinking of the UBA as being less even than the work-tested allowance.

Even if everyone signed up, what of it? A very small allowance (around half the unemployment allowance) could probably be paid to every citizen regardless of what other income they have. Then there wouldn't be any need for queues, it would be a recurrent payment direct into bank accounts, and administration of the program would be nothing more than checking that every registered bludger is in fact a citizen or resident.
New Limacon
17-04-2009, 03:49
100 day week of days lasting 100 minutes, with 30 days off per week, days 30-40, 65-75 and 90-100. Thats what we need. Much simpler.

I remember* the French tried to implement a decimal calendar after the Revolution, and it was incredibly unpopular not least because the ten-day week meant peasants got one-tenth of the time off, as opposed to one-seventh.

*And by "remember" I mean "remember learning." I was just a small child in 1789, and remember very little about the French Revolution.
Cameroi
17-04-2009, 11:43
three six day weeks plus a month day in a year division have the same number of days in them as there are them fit into a year, specifically 19. now the trip about this, my trip about this, not anything to do with the 19 of 19's origin, is that by going about this way you end up with four on and two off and then every third weekend is a three day.

of course what names you give the six days of these alleviated weeks is not my problem, (i find it entirely sufficient to simply number them and let it go at that) nor their lack of synchronization with phases of the moon and so on. but since the moon's cycles don't sync with the sun's anyway, this also is another matter entirely.

btw; under the current paradigm, i'd prefer to take tue, wed, thu, off and work fri, sat, sun, mon.
cause that's just how i am.
Call to power
17-04-2009, 18:31
Quit yer complainin' and gerroff yer lazy bums! :p

yeah but in red China an afternoon nap is a constitutional right : P

Even if everyone signed up, what of it? A very small allowance (around half the unemployment allowance) could probably be paid to every citizen regardless of what other income they have.

wait so what your suggesting is we give everyone a living wage?

communist volunteer worker!

btw; under the current paradigm, i'd prefer to take tue, wed, thu, off and work fri, sat, sun, mon.
cause that's just how i am.

wait, wouldn't that be the same as whats suggested only with the days having different names :confused:
Ifreann
17-04-2009, 18:35
I find CTP's ideas intriguing. Do you perhaps have a poorly made manifesto I could download?
Ladamesansmerci
19-04-2009, 22:28
yeah but in red China an afternoon nap is a constitutional right : P

Alas, that's but a recent addition, after they introduced 2-day weekends. Unfortunately I didn't get to experience the pleasures of daily afternoon naps. Instead, grade 1 started at 8am and ended at 5pm (or 6 if the teacher decided to be mean)
Muravyets
20-04-2009, 00:10
I can think of several people whose souls I would gladly sell to get a 4-day work week. I like to say it's because there are things we have to do during "business hours" -- like getting our driver's licenses renewed, and that if everyone worked 4 days on/3 days off, and shifts were staggered, then half the population would have one day off when the other half was working, so we could all get our official stuff done without having to beg our shithead bosses to let us out so we can have a frigging life.

But the truth is, it's just because I hate having a job so much, I'm desperate to shorten the time I have to spend doing it and still get any money at all.

And of course, it's all BS, because the very instant I can, I'll give up being a cubicle-monkey to be a self-employed artist, which I know from experience means that I'll be working 7 days a week, because I'm obsessive.

Sigh. I can't win.
Invictopia
20-04-2009, 00:21
Call to power, you need to suck it up! So there are five day work weeks, whats your problem? You think having less is better like the French?

1. People will make less money unless......
2. To make up for lost profits people will have to work 15 hours days
3.France has recently switched back to the five day work week because of its suffering economy.
4. Work is a right and it is the solid foundation of any successful country. You want to turn into Uganda, or Spain? Fine have it your way.

As for Invictopia, we believe work is a necessary and good thing.